With the Predators being killed so easily in this movie, it actually makes more sense in the unrated cut. The movie explained how the xenomorphs were used in a ritual for the predators to prove themselves worthy of being hunters, the unrated cut goes further to explain that these predators are teenagers, which definitely explains why these predators are so weak. _However,_ they're still bulky as hell, not just for teenagers, but for predators in general, so take your pick.
+Troin Maybe those were the "prodigies" of their hunters because let's face it, testing inexperienced hunters against the ultimate prey is kinda stupid for a bunch of other reasons. It's obvious the plot changed so many times that in the end it made no sense.
The reason they are so bulky is because the filmmakers wanted to make the predators look more heroic that's the reason these predators weren't as slimy as their counterparts
Not exactly 'teenagers' in that sense. It's called _Unblooded Hunters_ , and also used with " _Young Blood_ ", indicating someone who is new to the hunt.
I believe the thing with the guns could be due to Weyland anticipating additional exploration parties to arrive. There is a line about that from him in the movie. He might have thought to be forced to defend his claim by force.
What annoyed me the most about this movie, as you pointed out yourself, was how easily those first two Predators got killed off. It's more or less hinted at that all three of them were relative rookies (I say relative because they weren't exactly new either), so that they make some mistakes or are less impressive than the two Predators from the two movies in that franchise makes some sense and is forgivable. But still, Predators would not go in there claws swinging and just trouncing around aimlessly like they were. They'd be far more calculating. In a straight-up, one-on-one fight, where the Predator has less weapons available, you can make a case that they would have a hard time with a single Alien (though a basic grunt is still far-fetched). But if they had their weaponry, even without the plasma caster, and aren't so stupidly surprised all the time, then one Predator is more than a match for a significant amount of Xenomorphs. Because that's the whole point of it. They think, Aliens swarm. Something this movie missed completely.
I agree with you. As fan of Predator i was really disappointed that two of them got killed by one freaking Xenomorph. Then again the director of this movie is massive Alien fan so i think he wanted to make Xenomorphs better in comparison while downplaying Predator's intelligence and tactics including their sense of honor. Predators are more than capable without their plasma cannons.
If you say that the only remarkably feature of xenomorph is that they swarm you clearly are not a fan of these creatures...Yes. Predators are far more intelligent but aliens are too so saying that predators should win just because intelligence looks more like somebody upset because his or her favorite monster did not win. PS:The last part of the fight was stupid...The predator clearly heard that the strings are getting destroyed but I guess because is a beginner He was thinking that he already win.
@@doktahsnotes3436 I'm a huge Alien fan, and I love the Alien, but the movie Aliens clearly changed the mythos for the creatures, turning them into swarming animals. Intelligent yes, but still basically animals. If a single Colonial marine can defeat numerous Aliens then a Predator should be even more capable. However if you ignore Aliens, and go by the original Alien film the creature was far more threatening. There was even a story-boarded scene where Ripley shot it through the head with a laser pistol and it had no effect on the creature. It was supposed to be a structurally perfect organism, the ultimate survivor, extremely resistant to intense heat or cold, physically durable and almost impossible to kill with its blood being the ultimate defensive adaptation while also being highly intelligent. None of that was true in Aliens where you could kill one with one round from a shotgun. The city hunter in Predator II meanwhile had an entire shotgun magazine emptied into it and recovered.
This film is extremely (and needlessly) dumb, although it's entertaining enough if you stumble across it late at night on the telly. What does surprise me about it though is that (a) the lead character is a strong, intelligent, attractive black woman, and the film makes no fuss about that (hoorah!), and (b) nobody ever seems to comment on that fact when reviewing the film!
I guess it's cuz we have a strong main character that is intelligent and smart enough to know how to use it, skilled and knowledgeable. The character just also happens to be female and black. And that is why no one really comments about it I guess. If there's been a ton of 'oooh lawdy!' gospel-singing nuttiness straight out some eddie murphy movie.... then it'd have been remembered as the black woman in that movie. Which is kinda sad, when I think about it.
This movie has problems but unlike requiem it's actually alien vs predator you know predators fighting aliens alright no Dawson's creek or OC bullshit and the fight location is actually interesting
It is a Poor rip off from the Dark Horse Comic... It is barely even original! Right down to the Main Female Heroine being marked as an Honorary Predator at the end - All of this was done by Dark Horse Comics, with the only difference being that their story made far more sense... Dark Horse took the Aliens Universe, The idea of Weyland-Yutani creating colonies on other worlds and amalgamated that with Predator... Humans Colonise a world the Predators use to "Train" - The Predators LAUNCH Alien Eggs to teh Surface not knowing Colonists have now made a barely habitable world fit for Humans... (The Colonisation has changed the entire landscape, meaning Natural Predators of the Xenomorph that would prevent an infestation becoming uncontrollable have also been uprooted or decimated by a change in Atmosphere!) - Also leading to MORE Aliens and many different Varieties as well as the Facehuggers start infecting not just Humans but Biological Life we have bought with us to start Breeding! Other than that, Virtually everything in the movie is a Direct Copy of the Comic... All they did was change the setting and throw in Weyland!!! A total Switch your brain off movie!
The practical effects are SO GOOD. Maybe that’s why I love this movie. I have a shit taste for movies; if they have amazing production design, I love it. The puppeteering for the Queen makes me want to cry, it’s so good. Shame the relationship between Alexa and Scar never blossomed. They made a lovely yet badass couple.
On the subject of the Predators not using especially creative tactics or being very smart, it's actually explained in the movie that this is more or less a right of passage kind of deal. By all accounts these Predators are basically teenagers who have just finished training and likely didn't have the experience of the Jungle Hunter or Ghost from the Second movie. Yes it's not a great excuse but it does also show how the test works since Aliens obviously require more than brute force to beat.
The Fan Without a Face If only the flick itself expounded on that. I would watch an AvP about a bunch of young, cocky frat boy type Preds who quickly realize, upon visiting earth for what passes for their collegiate field work, that they’re in over their heads when facing off against Xenos.
The problem with that though is it implies Aliens are one of the weakest things a Predator can hunt thus why they start on them, after all why prove you are a hunter on the strongest thing you can possibly hunt, that would mean everything after that is a downgrade.
@@Barnesofthenorth Not really, Aliens for the most part of manageable when there is one or two of them. We've seen that even ordinary Marines can shoot them to pieces without too much trouble. Remember the Aliens are mainly shown as unstoppable in Alien 1 or 3, and in both instances the characters have no weapons.
I've watched all of your reviews a few times now, and I have to say the way you used the Queen song, muffling it as it breaks through the ice and as it sinks under the water, is so fucking hilarious, I laugh every time as it breaks free and again when it sinks. So damn good, dude.
@@deusdeaconReviews No problem, man. You do great work and it should be recognized. Your channel is criminally underrated and deserves far more attention. You keep putting stuff out an I'll keep watching it multiple times and recommending it whenever I can!
In all honestly the predators r underrated, we hardly ever delve into their mythos, why they hunt, why is there a different faction of them, and their home world.
the predators in this look goofy as fuck due to the extra teeth, how the mandibles close, the eyes and the skin texture. they really dropped the ball when it comes the predators in this movie that even extends to their makeup effects. funny how the original back in the 80s with a design that was done literally last minute, looks so much better and believable.
This film had a lot of glaring plot holes in it, some of which you pointed out, but my one problem with this movie is at the end when the group of Predators show up and take there comrade, none of them say "Hey maybe this guy has a face hugger in him, we should check it out"? At first I thought they let it slide because they could handle it, but in the sequel they're all dead.
Fun fact about the original script of this movie it was actually going to be more accurate to the comics of the same name, with colonial marines being the main humans
I think the bottle cap is implying that someone has already looted the tomb. Some one (sponsored by coca-cola) had already dug up the tomb. I think we're supposed to assume that this means the artifacts have either been disturbed or stolen. Paul WS Anderson is way too smart for us huh?
these movies could have actually delivered more on these fights if the predators had acid resistant weaponry and armour or at the very least acid resistant skin that only suffers mild burns from it instead of being completely eaten through, hell if not im sure they could invent some sort of chamber that sprays them down with a substance that neutralises acid on contact, not being able to injure your opponent when your a primarily melle focused combatant is quite a crippling problem in an action movie
Yeah, I'm way late to the party. I only recently found this channel, and I've loved it thus far. But the tagline is meta. It isn't referring to the "we" of the movie humans, but the "we" of the audience. It doesn't matter who wins in the end, the audience loses for having sat through this film.
This movie is still my guilty pleasure.. I much rather watch this than "the Predator" from last year. No, autism is not the next step in evolution, Shane Black lol
What I hated the most about this movie was that during the trailer it specified that "no matter who wins we lose. " so of course the human has to be the fucking be the hero. Smh
Actually getting Lance Henrickson in AVP as the CEO of Wayland is more likely a nod to Alien 3, where the "human bishop" appears in the films final act as the man in charge of the of the group of soldiers that arrive to collect the Xenomorph (been a while since I saw Alien 3 and I'm don't remember if the group of soldiers were with the Wayland corperation). Also Alien 3 might where Paul WS. Anderson got the idea behind the Isaac's debacle of Resident Evil: The Final Retcon.
the movies are crap but the game aliev v Predator 2 is one of the best game out there because u can play 3 campains alien predator and human and all 3 are unique and badass
16:30 ok, that complaint is something that actually gets explained in film if you pay attention those are literally teenage to young adult predators, and the whole thing is a sort of coming of age ritual to them; they have to prove themselves. the fact that they are more impulsive, violent and such can all be attributed to that; literally a bunch of predator teens bumbling their way through a test (and fucking up badly)
Yeah but that still doesn't excuse the fact that the predators are completely shit and according you, deliberately written to be shit, its hardly an alien AND predator film, when they slap predator fans in the face and don't even bother to make them decent characters, this explanation doesn't vindicate the film I hope you realise, it actually makes it worse because they chose to make it like this.
Actually, as a predator fan I really like this, because it shows there is more to their civilization overall; it fleshes them out by showing even they have their tests, mistakes and impulsive assholes. But I understand this is rather subjective, some people like predator (and even aliens) more as monsters, unknowable, borderline unstoppable forces and the like. I like both from a sci-fi perspective, where they come from, what (in the predators case) their culture is like and such. For someone like me this movie is not that bad (though the human characters and overall way look and such are still bad, I can forgive that one element.)
This movie sucks but compared to the Resident Evil movie series it is a masterpiece and haves a fantastic cast .. Paul w.s.Anderson litterally ruined my childhood
91lifetime23 I see your point but the main problem to me is that as a Resident evil games fan since the very first camed out I was really disappointed when I saw the first movies because I was expecting a faithful adaptation of the game e plots and characters , also se anche horror movie fan since I was 10 I have to day that the movies themselves were pretty bad also It compared to classic zombie movies..
I think the guy who fell down the hole and had Predators walk past him MAY have been a reference to the first one where Arnie is covered in mud covering his heat signature, I mean it's hardly connected to it and misses the point of that scene so it's the kind of reference Anderson would make. Also there is a reason they took guns, it's a lazy excuse for the Predators being able to kill people as if this was a normal group exploring a tomb nobody would be armed and the predators would only have Aliens to kill making it end pretty quickly. It's not a good reason but it is a reason.
If you think of all the Alien and Predator films as one, giant franchise, you'll notice that aliens have had a huge impact on us and our culture. The Engineers created human life, the Predators taught humans how to build and Predator technology was reverse-engineered for space flight and turned Weyland-Yutani into a corporate giant.
well not to defend this film too much, but pred-aliens are capable of reproduction all on their own and as such would be a big rival to a hive queen Edit : although having said that, I doubt they were thinking that far ahead.
How does it NOT bother you how FAST the life cycles are! Hardly anytime planting the embryo via face hugger... NO time for the chest burster to come out and 10 minutes at max to become a fully grown Alien....
Actually I think your getting that mixed up with their masks considering in the old AVP books the predator maw didn't protect them and they were still acceptable to alien impregnation, however with their masks on it prevents this which is why usually it would require an alien to incapacitate the predator and remove their mask.....but aliens usually kill the predator rather than impregnate them unless an opportunity is presented. That's why predaliens are not a common creature in the AVP universe.
Actually... this movie makes NEITHER side look good. The Aliens come off as some basic alien-grunts that can just THAT easily be killed, while the Predators looked like over-armored douches that were nothing without their precious little shoulder-cannons. Now, you already pointed out beautifully how bad the Predators look, but really... an ALIEN QUEEN being killed by a human and a Predator? A single Xenomorph is already a good match for a Predator, they embody their exact opposites: Aliens are savage, ferocious and wild, and Predators are honorable, skilled and mastered using their gadgets. But yeah, you... actually made an excellent point in the end. Predator is thrilling, unnerving action, Aliens is Horror. They don't mix. Comparing / Mashing them together is just a dumb concept to begin with.
Here is a way to show the predators having a need to go onsite for weaponry... we are just talking the plasmacaster in the movie which is a cool and great weapon... but the pyramid is SO close quarters it seems like..... more of a useless weapon than anything. Now what could have been interesting is if the predators had only arrived with their cloak, their armor and nothing else. They are meant to arrive like a 'knight' only in their armor and heraldry and then pick up their weapons onsite. One might go for a spear, another the smart-disc slicey-thing, another perhaps a netlauncher and twin wristblade gauntlets. You'd have an instant way of giving each predator personality both by their looks but also their choice of weaponry to show they are still fairly novice and perhaps are still stuck in proficiency with certain weapons - unlike prior shown predators that have more of a 'all weapons are equally functional', AND a show of their preferred weapons that way. Could also lead to one of them dying just as they have all finally geared up cuz of the unplanned early-start to their test by the humans so they hadn't expected an alien already to deal with, or perhaps were simply overconfident cuz 'weapons!'
When Lex sais "You're one ugly mo..." that's a Predator 2 reference. Danny Glover said that in the slaughterhouse when he removed the pred's helmet. Quite frankly he too only said "mo..." cuz then the pred came to and it was the Predator that said the full word to him as well. Well.. there you go xD
Anyone else wonder what happened to the queen as Aliens can survive vacuum? She probably wouldnt drown, would likely break loose her chains, and pop up God knows where on Earth. Come to think of it, that could have been a far better sequel than the dreck we got.
To be fair these predators lacked the skill and tactics of previous ones because they were apparently "young" and this was a part of their training, so they're very inexperienced
"id rather have one and not need it, than need it and not have one" Im sorry, but its too good of a quote for you to say it doesnt make sense that she has a gun
The pyramid/ziggurat in the flashback was a different pyramid. My guess is they had multiples and at some point the unblooded lost. And the hero Predator was supposed to look "friendlier" as opposed to scary hence the weird mishmash. But I agree the language thing makes no sense unless they're flying the pyramid around to different locations. And the flashbacks are seriously problematic. I doubt those humans would've set off the pyramid. Maybe that's why it was untouched. Or maybe I'm reaching.
When the song started playing I nearly choked on the food I was eating thanks for almost killing me I don't want to go through that experience again but the joke was worth it
It's the eyes. This predator's eyes are really soft and human looking compared to the one in the original movie. The original had very dark circles to make them look deep and bright, almost glowing, green eyes. This one has soft, blue eyes...for some reason.
The mouth also. The OG Predator's inner mouth is centered top to bottom with about 3 inches of chin and 3 inches from the eyes to the upper lip. The newer goofy looking predator's mouth is about one inch below it's eyes, with 4 or 5 inches of chin.
The only similarity between the movie and the original comic book source is that the predators dropped eggs on the colony planet to start their hunt, and the main female character teams up with the hunt leader. At the end she is invited to join the hunters, and goes off to visit the predator homeworld.
There might be an explanation for them bringing guns, during the briefing there was a mention that they wanted to be the first there and there was a chance other people would come to check out the site so they might have been armed in case that happened.
Aliens and predator are both action thrillers about a group of marines facing an alien threat that puts their skills to the test, they could absolutely work together if the people behind the camera had any talent. All they had to do was make aliens again and throw in a predator to spice things up.
@Deusdaecon Just out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on the other films in the Alien/Predator series? I'm not asking for a full review or marathon dedicated to these films (though that would be nice) just a simple answer will suffice.
She dosent want them to possibly go to their deaths by being led by someone less compitant. She cares about human life and dosent want to know that they got hurt becuse she let the other person take the job instead. You know, she acted like a decent human?
AVP works much better as a comic book, because people are willing to accept a lot more out there material in a comic. Part of the movie's problem was that they tried to ground it, by bringing it to present day earth. The comics always took place with future humans, and predator game preserve planets... Much more like the Predators movie. I think the movie fails because they weren't willing to take risks, and what we got was far too predictable and basic.
The scene where Alexa and Graeme meet totally reminds me of in the movie Howling 5 when Gail and David meet. Pretty black chick, geeky odd acting white dude steady taking pictures.
You know I can't help but get the feeling like this movie is trying to be two parts "Aliens", one part "Predator", and 3/4ths Lovecraftian rip-off. Seriously, I can't be the only one who gets an "At The Mountains of Madness" vibe from this story.
What i dont like is the first two predators just giving up. The first one who got stab could have still swung at the xenomorph. The second, i don't even know why it just stopped fighting. Also why is the third predators weapon immune to the acid. I dont mind that xenomorph being unique compared to the others but it doesn't make sense for the predators to just give up fighting even on the verge of death
I thought "bullet time" was when slow motion is combined with a rotating camera around the subject (like the famous bullet dodging done by Neo in The Matrix). "Slow motion" is when the action is briefly slowed down for dramatic effect. I notice you refer to slow motion as bullet time pretty often, unless I'm wrong about the definitions.
this is the third time I've watched this review now. The ending bit about the queen with the audio clip just makes me laugh with the fading. Well done Sir, well done
Another thing that bothers me with the chest that is unlocked by putting in "todays date." We, and the "scientists" in the movie, use the Gregorian calendar. The Gregorian calendar was introduced in 1582 AD. The ancient Aztecan calendar was being used for centuries prior to the introduction of the Gregorian calendar. So it makes no sense that the correct combination to open the chest is a date from a calendar that did not even exist when the pyramid was built.
Still hilarious. Though I do feel that Break Free works best breaking free from her chains. But once she goes on a killing spree, that’s when they do Killer Queen.
I thought that the bottle cap was proof that other people had been in that room before in recent times. That this wasn’t the chamber they were looking for.
This movie was 50/50 for me. I like AVP (books) since I grew up with the comic and older movies of both series...but this movie down grades both series on a whole. Also to be fair these are young predators that are not blooded yet so they won't act like the usual predators and are in the process of learning to hunt both Aliens (to be honorably blooded) and humans (though they are pointless in this movie since they are not worthy trophies like Arnold and Danny). Anyways I love your review on the movie and you make some very interesting and funny points lol. Keep up the great work
I'm constantly hearing the "they're just young" or"they're in training" excuse for the predators but that still doesnt work for me, mainly because that would mean they've been deliberately written to be shite, and its not an accident which in a way is worse, "in training" or not doesnt matter because they're just cannon fodder for the aliens, its alien VS predator not "aliens remember them arent they cool, oh theres also some predators"
Deusdaecon Reviews I agree the movie could of done that a lot better and I'm not really trying to use that as an excuse (just using that to explain their tactics more that why they died). I agree when AVP came out I was pissed they killed the predators off easy and made them stupid (predator was the first movie series I watched as a kid and love very it very much and always cheered for the predators to win even though they died lol).
Its crazy that the instant Prometheus and Alien Covenant came out, both of the AvP movies were completely rendered irrelevant and completely retconned. You know, because David was actually who created the Xenomorphs way way way in the future in space.
Never understand why that make anything better, all that means is the predators were deliberately written to be nothing more then alien fodder, its "alien VS predator", Not "ALIENS, oh and predators i guess BUT HEY LOOK AREN'T THE ALIENS AWESOME !!!"
never said it made it better, I just look at something and try to figure how someone came to the idea. its like putting logic to the seemingly illogical. if you look at it from a logical standpoint, how do you make better hunters, you throw inexperienced noobs into the fray and the ones who come back are better hunters while the dumbasses just die off. makes logic sense from a societal view since the predators are all about the hunt. from a story view though, its just lazy as shit. you know, I can understand the line of thinking... doesnt make it less stupid though. usually how I view things like this.
I think it has to do with the fact that the director of Paul WS Anderson happens to be huge Alien fan. I guess he wanted to make Predators look like shit in comparison.
That would actually be a pretty fun thing to do for a change. Have the people with children survive because they dont feel like theyre allowed to lose or something.
The thing that always got me most about this movie is, both Predator movies made a huge point about the heat, yet this is set in Antartica? Oh well, now that Disney has bought Fox, maybe we can see Aliens vs. Predator. Vs. the Avengers.
You complained about their being no predator references and then you get to the section with the guy covered in ice just before the predator killed him 11:04 and you didnt get the predator reference :D its to make you wonder if the ice would hide his body heat like the mud from the first film. Still I do love your reviews :)
Oh i got the reference, I guess I didn't feel the need the justify the pointless throwaway reference, like the film chucking it last table scraps at predator fans
yeah thats true, it did very much feel like an alien film with predators rather than predators with aliens. would have been nice if they could have given them equal footing. I actually have the autograph of the person who plays the main predator in this film :) one of the main reasons I go back and watch it every now and then
I just thought as well if this place is designed to breed aliens for hunting why is there a secret panel on the floor to activate it? they know what is going to happen anyway and would almost definitely notice it so why isn't it just a button on the wall thast says "go!"
I'd argue that the Predator from the first movie was basically, like an actual hunter. These three dense idiots in this movie are rich trophy hunters, thus explaining why THEY SUCK AT HUNTING XENOMORPHS
okay, so my point of "this is hardly a predator AND alien movie, and more a slap in the face to the fans of predator" is pretty valid then, considering they're apparently, according to yourself, written to be complete shit.
Well, that bit about finding bottle cap would mean that the place has been looted. Pretty much means they got the right place but it's a giant waste of time still.
Wait wait wait...I’ve seen a theatre version and an “extended” version and neither contained the scene in the beginning with the alien attacking the predator in the old days, both versions I saw opened in outer space with that satellite that looks like the queen.
I like how this movie has a few scenes that subvert expectations (like twitchy guy giving that speech to the surly Irish guy about how one way or another they’re going to get out only for them to get captured moments later and the woman having a gun which you think will come in handy later but then doesn’t, and bottle cap guy being built up to be a possible love interest for Lex only for him to get killed)
@@deusdeaconReviews the characters definitely should have been fleshed out more. That’s what like about the OG Alien. The first few minutes are establishing the characters, making them seem like real people and not just Xeno fodder
I honestly did not mind the 1st AVP. The 2nd was balls. Complete balls. I'm enjoying your content. Question foryou since I'm a new subscriber, why does your avatar have purple eyeshadow? (If that's what it is)
@@deusdeaconReviews lol cool, as you can see I'm new to your channel. Your Lovecraft stuff is awesome. Are you going to review The Block Island Sound? Or Lovcraftian games?
Yeah that is an explanation but the point of what I was saying was that for an "alien vs predator" movie making one of them completely useless however justified that may be, is incredibly disingenuous and disrespectful to the franchise and its fans.
I just think they didnt want the Predators to be overpowered, because the predator from the Arnie movie or even from Predators could easily deal with multiple Aliens in this kind of scenario. They are better equipped and think more logical. So it would be hard to make it a fair fight, without just having them fight hundreds of Xenomorphs. I really like this dumb movie for some reason, so sorry if this comes across as apologetic or something like that :)
I get thats what they were doing, But it doesn't stop the fact that they had the rights to FINALLY! make an Alien vs Predator movie, and they didn't give us Arnies predator they didn't even give us glovers predator, so whats the point? if they weren't gonna respect both franchises why do it at all? and I'm not saying the predators should be treated fairly like some kind liberal utopia nonsense kind of way, I'm merely saying they should use them to they're full potential and give us a film worthy of both franchises and they didn't, they fucked it up.
well they finally made the jungle predator again in the predator 3 movie. and then a team of 3 super predators. and predator 4 a sequel to predator 1 is in the works.
I was like the theory that this was a canned hunt for young predators and some of them were kind of thinking they could cheat their way through it it kind of explains why they're not very consistent and really bad at subtle
*forgive the copy and pasted response but i responded to someone else earlier today with this same idea* I hear that explanation a lot and every time i just think that makes the film worse because that would mean the predators have been Deliberately made to be shit, so my complaint that its an alien film with predators and not VS is even more relevant.
Actualy theres a theory that those civilisations are a split off from an older one. They have yet to find this older one yet. Just like they have yet to find other things they are shure exist.
With the Predators being killed so easily in this movie, it actually makes more sense in the unrated cut. The movie explained how the xenomorphs were used in a ritual for the predators to prove themselves worthy of being hunters, the unrated cut goes further to explain that these predators are teenagers, which definitely explains why these predators are so weak. _However,_ they're still bulky as hell, not just for teenagers, but for predators in general, so take your pick.
+Troin
Maybe those were the "prodigies" of their hunters because let's face it, testing inexperienced hunters against the ultimate prey is kinda stupid for a bunch of other reasons. It's obvious the plot changed so many times that in the end it made no sense.
The reason they are so bulky is because the filmmakers wanted to make the predators look more heroic that's the reason these predators weren't as slimy as their counterparts
Not exactly 'teenagers' in that sense. It's called _Unblooded Hunters_ , and also used with " _Young Blood_ ", indicating someone who is new to the hunt.
In that context it also makes sense as to why they don't seem as skilled or use stealth.
That and the fact that Paul WS. Anderson said that they buffed the alien to make it a more fair fight
I believe the thing with the guns could be due to Weyland anticipating additional exploration parties to arrive. There is a line about that from him in the movie. He might have thought to be forced to defend his claim by force.
What annoyed me the most about this movie, as you pointed out yourself, was how easily those first two Predators got killed off. It's more or less hinted at that all three of them were relative rookies (I say relative because they weren't exactly new either), so that they make some mistakes or are less impressive than the two Predators from the two movies in that franchise makes some sense and is forgivable. But still, Predators would not go in there claws swinging and just trouncing around aimlessly like they were. They'd be far more calculating. In a straight-up, one-on-one fight, where the Predator has less weapons available, you can make a case that they would have a hard time with a single Alien (though a basic grunt is still far-fetched). But if they had their weaponry, even without the plasma caster, and aren't so stupidly surprised all the time, then one Predator is more than a match for a significant amount of Xenomorphs. Because that's the whole point of it. They think, Aliens swarm. Something this movie missed completely.
I agree with you. As fan of Predator i was really disappointed that two of them got killed by one freaking Xenomorph. Then again the director of this movie is massive Alien fan so i think he wanted to make Xenomorphs better in comparison while downplaying Predator's intelligence and tactics including their sense of honor. Predators are more than capable without their plasma cannons.
If you say that the only remarkably feature of xenomorph is that they swarm you clearly are not a fan of these creatures...Yes. Predators are far more intelligent but aliens are too so saying that predators should win just because intelligence looks more like somebody upset because his or her favorite monster did not win.
PS:The last part of the fight was stupid...The predator clearly heard that the strings are getting destroyed but I guess because is a beginner He was thinking that he already win.
@@doktahsnotes3436 I'm a huge Alien fan, and I love the Alien, but the movie Aliens clearly changed the mythos for the creatures, turning them into swarming animals. Intelligent yes, but still basically animals. If a single Colonial marine can defeat numerous Aliens then a Predator should be even more capable. However if you ignore Aliens, and go by the original Alien film the creature was far more threatening. There was even a story-boarded scene where Ripley shot it through the head with a laser pistol and it had no effect on the creature. It was supposed to be a structurally perfect organism, the ultimate survivor, extremely resistant to intense heat or cold, physically durable and almost impossible to kill with its blood being the ultimate defensive adaptation while also being highly intelligent. None of that was true in Aliens where you could kill one with one round from a shotgun. The city hunter in Predator II meanwhile had an entire shotgun magazine emptied into it and recovered.
This film is extremely (and needlessly) dumb, although it's entertaining enough if you stumble across it late at night on the telly.
What does surprise me about it though is that (a) the lead character is a strong, intelligent, attractive black woman, and the film makes no fuss about that (hoorah!), and (b) nobody ever seems to comment on that fact when reviewing the film!
I guess it's cuz we have a strong main character that is intelligent and smart enough to know how to use it, skilled and knowledgeable. The character just also happens to be female and black. And that is why no one really comments about it I guess.
If there's been a ton of 'oooh lawdy!' gospel-singing nuttiness straight out some eddie murphy movie.... then it'd have been remembered as the black woman in that movie. Which is kinda sad, when I think about it.
Even if the Preds ARE new bloods, you'd think they would either
a) Be fittingly equipped for the situation
b) Improvise their battle tactics
Wouldn’t it have made more sense and the explorers be more excited if they were to discover a totally new culture- the Yautja/Predator culture?
This movie has problems but unlike requiem it's actually alien vs predator you know predators fighting aliens alright no Dawson's creek or OC bullshit and the fight location is actually interesting
It is a Poor rip off from the Dark Horse Comic... It is barely even original! Right down to the Main Female Heroine being marked as an Honorary Predator at the end - All of this was done by Dark Horse Comics, with the only difference being that their story made far more sense...
Dark Horse took the Aliens Universe, The idea of Weyland-Yutani creating colonies on other worlds and amalgamated that with Predator... Humans Colonise a world the Predators use to "Train" - The Predators LAUNCH Alien Eggs to teh Surface not knowing Colonists have now made a barely habitable world fit for Humans... (The Colonisation has changed the entire landscape, meaning Natural Predators of the Xenomorph that would prevent an infestation becoming uncontrollable have also been uprooted or decimated by a change in Atmosphere!) - Also leading to MORE Aliens and many different Varieties as well as the Facehuggers start infecting not just Humans but Biological Life we have bought with us to start Breeding!
Other than that, Virtually everything in the movie is a Direct Copy of the Comic... All they did was change the setting and throw in Weyland!!!
A total Switch your brain off movie!
The practical effects are SO GOOD. Maybe that’s why I love this movie. I have a shit taste for movies; if they have amazing production design, I love it. The puppeteering for the Queen makes me want to cry, it’s so good.
Shame the relationship between Alexa and Scar never blossomed. They made a lovely yet badass couple.
ScLex, my OTP!!!
On the subject of the Predators not using especially creative tactics or being very smart, it's actually explained in the movie that this is more or less a right of passage kind of deal.
By all accounts these Predators are basically teenagers who have just finished training and likely didn't have the experience of the Jungle Hunter or Ghost from the Second movie. Yes it's not a great excuse but it does also show how the test works since Aliens obviously require more than brute force to beat.
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If only the flick itself expounded on that. I would watch an AvP about a bunch of young, cocky frat boy type Preds who quickly realize, upon visiting earth for what passes for their collegiate field work, that they’re in over their heads when facing off against Xenos.
The problem with that though is it implies Aliens are one of the weakest things a Predator can hunt thus why they start on them, after all why prove you are a hunter on the strongest thing you can possibly hunt, that would mean everything after that is a downgrade.
@@Barnesofthenorth Not really, Aliens for the most part of manageable when there is one or two of them. We've seen that even ordinary Marines can shoot them to pieces without too much trouble. Remember the Aliens are mainly shown as unstoppable in Alien 1 or 3, and in both instances the characters have no weapons.
Literally broke out laughing at "why do you want to keep cubing this man" 😂😂😂
You need to review PREDATOR 2. It's not as stellar as the original, but I think it's one of the most underrated films of it's kind ever.
It also sets up the AVP franchise since a Xenomorph skull is seen in the predators’ trophy room
what about the fact that predators like heat and go to earth when the temperature is high! but here we have ice and snow!
Well to give the film some small credit I always thought that was deliberate because its a predator test, set in the harshest conditions for them.
I've watched all of your reviews a few times now, and I have to say the way you used the Queen song, muffling it as it breaks through the ice and as it sinks under the water, is so fucking hilarious, I laugh every time as it breaks free and again when it sinks. So damn good, dude.
Thank you very much, It nice when someone notices the small details
@@deusdeaconReviews No problem, man. You do great work and it should be recognized. Your channel is criminally underrated and deserves far more attention. You keep putting stuff out an I'll keep watching it multiple times and recommending it whenever I can!
In all honestly the predators r underrated, we hardly ever delve into their mythos, why they hunt, why is there a different faction of them, and their home world.
Hunh, a queen is a breaking free.
I see what you did there
the predators in this look goofy as fuck due to the extra teeth, how the mandibles close, the eyes and the skin texture. they really dropped the ball when it comes the predators in this movie that even extends to their makeup effects. funny how the original back in the 80s with a design that was done literally last minute, looks so much better and believable.
This film had a lot of glaring plot holes in it, some of which you pointed out, but my one problem with this movie is at the end when the group of Predators show up and take there comrade, none of them say "Hey maybe this guy has a face hugger in him, we should check it out"? At first I thought they let it slide because they could handle it, but in the sequel they're all dead.
Fun fact about the original script of this movie
it was actually going to be more accurate to the comics of the same name, with colonial marines being the main humans
I think the bottle cap is implying that someone has already looted the tomb. Some one (sponsored by coca-cola) had already dug up the tomb. I think we're supposed to assume that this means the artifacts have either been disturbed or stolen. Paul WS Anderson is way too smart for us huh?
these movies could have actually delivered more on these fights if the predators had acid resistant weaponry and armour or at the very least acid resistant skin that only suffers mild burns from it instead of being completely eaten through, hell if not im sure they could invent some sort of chamber that sprays them down with a substance that neutralises acid on contact, not being able to injure your opponent when your a primarily melle focused combatant is quite a crippling problem in an action movie
Yeah, I'm way late to the party. I only recently found this channel, and I've loved it thus far. But the tagline is meta. It isn't referring to the "we" of the movie humans, but the "we" of the audience. It doesn't matter who wins in the end, the audience loses for having sat through this film.
This movie is still my guilty pleasure.. I much rather watch this than "the Predator" from last year.
No, autism is not the next step in evolution, Shane Black lol
What I hated the most about this movie was that during the trailer it specified that "no matter who wins we lose. " so of course the human has to be the fucking be the hero. Smh
Actually their weapons WERE immune to the acid blood of the alien! So there’s no reason any thing of theirs, armor or weapons, should have melted!
daecon, you going to review Prometheus?
Actually getting Lance Henrickson in AVP as the CEO of Wayland is more likely a nod to Alien 3, where the "human bishop" appears in the films final act as the man in charge of the of the group of soldiers that arrive to collect the Xenomorph (been a while since I saw Alien 3 and I'm don't remember if the group of soldiers were with the Wayland corperation).
Also Alien 3 might where Paul WS. Anderson got the idea behind the Isaac's debacle of Resident Evil: The Final Retcon.
the movies are crap but the game aliev v Predator 2 is one of the best game out there because u can play 3 campains alien predator and human and all 3 are unique and badass
Dude, I played the shit out of that game back in the day. Online with dialup, man it was rough but the best game ever.
I havnt played the game but it sounds like StarCraft, not in the RTS sense, but as 3 races.. Terran/Human, Protoss/Predator and Zerg/Alien.
And you got to go through the entire Xenomorph life cycle! No game since has done it.
Prometheus has almost the same plot
Think about this, this is the definition of a canned hunt. That means these are either lazy, young, or waiting to die predators.
16:30 ok, that complaint is something that actually gets explained in film if you pay attention
those are literally teenage to young adult predators, and the whole thing is a sort of coming of age ritual to them; they have to prove themselves.
the fact that they are more impulsive, violent and such can all be attributed to that; literally a bunch of predator teens bumbling their way through a test (and fucking up badly)
Yeah but that still doesn't excuse the fact that the predators are completely shit and according you, deliberately written to be shit, its hardly an alien AND predator film, when they slap predator fans in the face and don't even bother to make them decent characters, this explanation doesn't vindicate the film I hope you realise, it actually makes it worse because they chose to make it like this.
Actually, as a predator fan I really like this, because it shows there is more to their civilization overall; it fleshes them out by showing even they have their tests, mistakes and impulsive assholes.
But I understand this is rather subjective, some people like predator (and even aliens) more as monsters, unknowable, borderline unstoppable forces and the like.
I like both from a sci-fi perspective, where they come from, what (in the predators case) their culture is like and such.
For someone like me this movie is not that bad (though the human characters and overall way look and such are still bad, I can forgive that one element.)
Will you one day do Alien or Predator?
while this is lightyears better than requiem I will still keep to the comics and games
This movie sucks but compared to the Resident Evil movie series it is a masterpiece and haves a fantastic cast .. Paul w.s.Anderson litterally ruined my childhood
Andrea Badiali well i have to admit I really like the first Resident Evil and some parts of Apocalypse but the rest are just awful
91lifetime23 I see your point but the main problem to me is that as a Resident evil games fan since the very first camed out I was really disappointed when I saw the first movies because I was expecting a faithful adaptation of the game e plots and characters , also se anche horror movie fan since I was 10 I have to day that the movies themselves were pretty bad also It compared to classic zombie movies..
Andrea Badiali I only know what resident evil is because of his movies XD now I’m a resident evil fan that likes his movies as a guilty pleasure
I think the guy who fell down the hole and had Predators walk past him MAY have been a reference to the first one where Arnie is covered in mud covering his heat signature, I mean it's hardly connected to it and misses the point of that scene so it's the kind of reference Anderson would make.
Also there is a reason they took guns, it's a lazy excuse for the Predators being able to kill people as if this was a normal group exploring a tomb nobody would be armed and the predators would only have Aliens to kill making it end pretty quickly. It's not a good reason but it is a reason.
Are you planning to do a series review on the Alien and Predator films ?
If you think of all the Alien and Predator films as one, giant franchise, you'll notice that aliens have had a huge impact on us and our culture. The Engineers created human life, the Predators taught humans how to build and Predator technology was reverse-engineered for space flight and turned Weyland-Yutani into a corporate giant.
Ugh I’ve almost watched all his videos and I only found him last week. Halp.
That song has me dying from laughter
Gotta love the well-executed pun he made of that moment. A Queen wants to break free.
Why did the Queen stab the impregnated Predator? It's clearly established in the series that Xenomorphs don't attack if it endangers their offspring
well not to defend this film too much, but pred-aliens are capable of reproduction all on their own and as such would be a big rival to a hive queen
Edit : although having said that, I doubt they were thinking that far ahead.
@@deusdeaconReviews Yeah fair enough
Dude every AVP or Alien movie with the Queen should play Queen - I Want To Break Free
My favorite Queen song played for an obvious joke...I'm in heaven! :D
How does it NOT bother you how FAST the life cycles are! Hardly anytime planting the embryo via face hugger... NO time for the chest burster to come out and 10 minutes at max to become a fully grown Alien....
the pyramid is a reference to the predator homeworld in the novels and comicbooks.
I don't even care I adore this movie :D one of my favorite guilty pleasures
Wait a minute... isn't the point of the Preditor's jaw to make it impossible for a facehugger to impregnate (or whatever you call it) them?
Actually I think your getting that mixed up with their masks considering in the old AVP books the predator maw didn't protect them and they were still acceptable to alien impregnation, however with their masks on it prevents this which is why usually it would require an alien to incapacitate the predator and remove their mask.....but aliens usually kill the predator rather than impregnate them unless an opportunity is presented. That's why predaliens are not a common creature in the AVP universe.
Actually... this movie makes NEITHER side look good.
The Aliens come off as some basic alien-grunts that can just THAT easily be killed, while the Predators looked like over-armored douches that were nothing without their precious little shoulder-cannons.
Now, you already pointed out beautifully how bad the Predators look, but really... an ALIEN QUEEN being killed by a human and a Predator? A single Xenomorph is already a good match for a Predator, they embody their exact opposites: Aliens are savage, ferocious and wild, and Predators are honorable, skilled and mastered using their gadgets.
But yeah, you... actually made an excellent point in the end. Predator is thrilling, unnerving action, Aliens is Horror.
They don't mix. Comparing / Mashing them together is just a dumb concept to begin with.
unfortunately, Aliens started the trend of easy to kill alien grunts. But I appear to be the only person who doesn't like Aliens
It works in comics and geek debates just not in theaters
It's been confirmed that the predtors are young bloods on there first hunt
So there not very experienced
Here is a way to show the predators having a need to go onsite for weaponry... we are just talking the plasmacaster in the movie which is a cool and great weapon... but the pyramid is SO close quarters it seems like..... more of a useless weapon than anything. Now what could have been interesting is if the predators had only arrived with their cloak, their armor and nothing else. They are meant to arrive like a 'knight' only in their armor and heraldry and then pick up their weapons onsite. One might go for a spear, another the smart-disc slicey-thing, another perhaps a netlauncher and twin wristblade gauntlets.
You'd have an instant way of giving each predator personality both by their looks but also their choice of weaponry to show they are still fairly novice and perhaps are still stuck in proficiency with certain weapons - unlike prior shown predators that have more of a 'all weapons are equally functional', AND a show of their preferred weapons that way.
Could also lead to one of them dying just as they have all finally geared up cuz of the unplanned early-start to their test by the humans so they hadn't expected an alien already to deal with, or perhaps were simply overconfident cuz 'weapons!'
When Lex sais "You're one ugly mo..." that's a Predator 2 reference. Danny Glover said that in the slaughterhouse when he removed the pred's helmet. Quite frankly he too only said "mo..." cuz then the pred came to and it was the Predator that said the full word to him as well. Well.. there you go xD
Considering schwarzenegger is famous for saying that line in the first film its probably more a reference to that.
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Anyone else wonder what happened to the queen as Aliens can survive vacuum? She probably wouldnt drown, would likely break loose her chains, and pop up God knows where on Earth. Come to think of it, that could have been a far better sequel than the dreck we got.
the vacuum of space is very different to the immense atmospheric pressure of the ocean
To be fair these predators lacked the skill and tactics of previous ones because they were apparently "young" and this was a part of their training, so they're very inexperienced
so instead of accidentally being written to be shit, they were deliberately written to be shit, thats not the best argument.
"id rather have one and not need it, than need it and not have one"
Im sorry, but its too good of a quote for you to say it doesnt make sense that she has a gun
The pyramid/ziggurat in the flashback was a different pyramid. My guess is they had multiples and at some point the unblooded lost.
And the hero Predator was supposed to look "friendlier" as opposed to scary hence the weird mishmash.
But I agree the language thing makes no sense unless they're flying the pyramid around to different locations.
And the flashbacks are seriously problematic. I doubt those humans would've set off the pyramid. Maybe that's why it was untouched. Or maybe I'm reaching.
When the song started playing I nearly choked on the food I was eating thanks for almost killing me I don't want to go through that experience again but the joke was worth it
It's the eyes. This predator's eyes are really soft and human looking compared to the one in the original movie. The original had very dark circles to make them look deep and bright, almost glowing, green eyes. This one has soft, blue eyes...for some reason.
The mouth also. The OG Predator's inner mouth is centered top to bottom with about 3 inches of chin and 3 inches from the eyes to the upper lip.
The newer goofy looking predator's mouth is about one inch below it's eyes, with 4 or 5 inches of chin.
Since this versus was pro-Alien I half expected Lex to say the "get away from him you bitch" line when the lone predator fought the Queen.
When the queen was comin up through the ice and the song came back on in a crescendo 🤣🤣🤣 good shit mane!
The only similarity between the movie and the original comic book source is that the predators dropped eggs on the colony planet to start their hunt, and the main female character teams up with the hunt leader. At the end she is invited to join the hunters, and goes off to visit the predator homeworld.
There might be an explanation for them bringing guns, during the briefing there was a mention that they wanted to be the first there and there was a chance other people would come to check out the site so they might have been armed in case that happened.
Aliens and predator are both action thrillers about a group of marines facing an alien threat that puts their skills to the test, they could absolutely work together if the people behind the camera had any talent. All they had to do was make aliens again and throw in a predator to spice things up.
Piper Maru. Not an X-Files fan then?
@Deusdaecon Just out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on the other films in the Alien/Predator series? I'm not asking for a full review or marathon dedicated to these films (though that would be nice) just a simple answer will suffice.
She dosent want them to possibly go to their deaths by being led by someone less compitant. She cares about human life and dosent want to know that they got hurt becuse she let the other person take the job instead. You know, she acted like a decent human?
Whoah, the beginning of this movie is SOOOOOO similar to Prometheus - bunch of specialists gathered together and briefed on a ship by Weyland.... oops
also when that moon thing was mentioned the movie wanted to say that this ritual or whatever only accures during an (surprisingly)eart full moon
Being set on earth ruined the movie for me.
I’d be pissed if I found a Pepsi cap, too. I’m more of a Coca Cola person myself.
AVP works much better as a comic book, because people are willing to accept a lot more out there material in a comic. Part of the movie's problem was that they tried to ground it, by bringing it to present day earth. The comics always took place with future humans, and predator game preserve planets... Much more like the Predators movie. I think the movie fails because they weren't willing to take risks, and what we got was far too predictable and basic.
The scene where Alexa and Graeme meet totally reminds me of in the movie Howling 5 when Gail and David meet. Pretty black chick, geeky odd acting white dude steady taking pictures.
You know I can't help but get the feeling like this movie is trying to be two parts "Aliens", one part "Predator", and 3/4ths Lovecraftian rip-off. Seriously, I can't be the only one who gets an "At The Mountains of Madness" vibe from this story.
What i dont like is the first two predators just giving up. The first one who got stab could have still swung at the xenomorph. The second, i don't even know why it just stopped fighting. Also why is the third predators weapon immune to the acid. I dont mind that xenomorph being unique compared to the others but it doesn't make sense for the predators to just give up fighting even on the verge of death
I thought "bullet time" was when slow motion is combined with a rotating camera around the subject (like the famous bullet dodging done by Neo in The Matrix). "Slow motion" is when the action is briefly slowed down for dramatic effect. I notice you refer to slow motion as bullet time pretty often, unless I'm wrong about the definitions.
I lost it at the “I want to break free” fading in and out, awesome
this is the third time I've watched this review now. The ending bit about the queen with the audio clip just makes me laugh with the fading. Well done Sir, well done
Thank you very much
Another thing that bothers me with the chest that is unlocked by putting in "todays date." We, and the "scientists" in the movie, use the Gregorian calendar. The Gregorian calendar was introduced in 1582 AD. The ancient Aztecan calendar was being used for centuries prior to the introduction of the Gregorian calendar. So it makes no sense that the correct combination to open the chest is a date from a calendar that did not even exist when the pyramid was built.
You went with Break Free and not Killer Queen?
Still hilarious. Though I do feel that Break Free works best breaking free from her chains. But once she goes on a killing spree, that’s when they do Killer Queen.
That music part where it showed the queen being dragged down in the water and it faded away xD keep up the great work brother
I thought that the bottle cap was proof that other people had been in that room before in recent times. That this wasn’t the chamber they were looking for.
Two of my favorite parts: predator 2 has a self-healing helmet upon death, and final predator wears Velcro under his helmet on his chin.
I kinda like these predators way more since they are so powerful and brutish which combined with their size fits them way better
This movie was 50/50 for me. I like AVP (books) since I grew up with the comic and older movies of both series...but this movie down grades both series on a whole.
Also to be fair these are young predators that are not blooded yet so they won't act like the usual predators and are in the process of learning to hunt both Aliens (to be honorably blooded) and humans (though they are pointless in this movie since they are not worthy trophies like Arnold and Danny).
Anyways I love your review on the movie and you make some very interesting and funny points lol. Keep up the great work
I'm constantly hearing the "they're just young" or"they're in training" excuse for the predators but that still doesnt work for me, mainly because that would mean they've been deliberately written to be shite, and its not an accident which in a way is worse, "in training" or not doesnt matter because they're just cannon fodder for the aliens, its alien VS predator not "aliens remember them arent they cool, oh theres also some predators"
Deusdaecon Reviews I agree the movie could of done that a lot better and I'm not really trying to use that as an excuse (just using that to explain their tactics more that why they died). I agree when AVP came out I was pissed they killed the predators off easy and made them stupid (predator was the first movie series I watched as a kid and love very it very much and always cheered for the predators to win even though they died lol).
Its crazy that the instant Prometheus and Alien Covenant came out, both of the AvP movies were completely rendered irrelevant and completely retconned. You know, because David was actually who created the Xenomorphs way way way in the future in space.
maybe these predators are like teenagers on their first hunting trip and they make newb mistakes.
Never understand why that make anything better, all that means is the predators were deliberately written to be nothing more then alien fodder, its "alien VS predator", Not "ALIENS, oh and predators i guess BUT HEY LOOK AREN'T THE ALIENS AWESOME !!!"
never said it made it better, I just look at something and try to figure how someone came to the idea. its like putting logic to the seemingly illogical. if you look at it from a logical standpoint, how do you make better hunters, you throw inexperienced noobs into the fray and the ones who come back are better hunters while the dumbasses just die off. makes logic sense from a societal view since the predators are all about the hunt. from a story view though, its just lazy as shit.
you know, I can understand the line of thinking... doesnt make it less stupid though. usually how I view things like this.
I think it has to do with the fact that the director of Paul WS Anderson happens to be huge Alien fan. I guess he wanted to make Predators look like shit in comparison.
That would actually be a pretty fun thing to do for a change. Have the people with children survive because they dont feel like theyre allowed to lose or something.
The thing that always got me most about this movie is, both Predator movies made a huge point about the heat, yet this is set in Antartica?
Oh well, now that Disney has bought Fox, maybe we can see Aliens vs. Predator. Vs. the Avengers.
I could see them being new Predators or whatever but I would think one of them we better than the others.
I know this is 5 years old but I just recently came across this channel and I would was wondering what is your intro song?
Not related to AvP, but I hope one day you review Alien Isolation.
If i were to review video games, I can see that being a pretty good start.
You complained about their being no predator references and then you get to the section with the guy covered in ice just before the predator killed him 11:04 and you didnt get the predator reference :D its to make you wonder if the ice would hide his body heat like the mud from the first film. Still I do love your reviews :)
Oh i got the reference, I guess I didn't feel the need the justify the pointless throwaway reference, like the film chucking it last table scraps at predator fans
yeah thats true, it did very much feel like an alien film with predators rather than predators with aliens. would have been nice if they could have given them equal footing. I actually have the autograph of the person who plays the main predator in this film :) one of the main reasons I go back and watch it every now and then
I just thought as well if this place is designed to breed aliens for hunting why is there a secret panel on the floor to activate it? they know what is going to happen anyway and would almost definitely notice it so why isn't it just a button on the wall thast says "go!"
I'd argue that the Predator from the first movie was basically, like an actual hunter. These three dense idiots in this movie are rich trophy hunters, thus explaining why THEY SUCK AT HUNTING XENOMORPHS
okay, so my point of "this is hardly a predator AND alien movie, and more a slap in the face to the fans of predator" is pretty valid then, considering they're apparently, according to yourself, written to be complete shit.
Well, that bit about finding bottle cap would mean that the place has been looted. Pretty much means they got the right place but it's a giant waste of time still.
This movie was the first time I had seen alien and predator. I've since seen the Alien movie but have yet to find the predator movie.
Wait wait wait...I’ve seen a theatre version and an “extended” version and neither contained the scene in the beginning with the alien attacking the predator in the old days, both versions I saw opened in outer space with that satellite that looks like the queen.
Well I hardly made it myself, what can i tell you ? the version i watched had that scene.
I like how this movie has a few scenes that subvert expectations (like twitchy guy giving that speech to the surly Irish guy about how one way or another they’re going to get out only for them to get captured moments later and the woman having a gun which you think will come in handy later but then doesn’t, and bottle cap guy being built up to be a possible love interest for Lex only for him to get killed)
thats not really subverting expectations, that just killing off charachter when they cant bothered to write more for them to do.
@@deusdeaconReviews the characters definitely should have been fleshed out more. That’s what like about the OG Alien. The first few minutes are establishing the characters, making them seem like real people and not just Xeno fodder
I honestly did not mind the 1st AVP. The 2nd was balls. Complete balls. I'm enjoying your content. Question foryou since I'm a new subscriber, why does your avatar have purple eyeshadow? (If that's what it is)
I dont use that image at all anymore, and its not eyeshadow its just an aesthetic choice of the artist
@@deusdeaconReviews lol cool, as you can see I'm new to your channel. Your Lovecraft stuff is awesome. Are you going to review The Block Island Sound? Or Lovcraftian games?
The Predators in this are teens, the fight against the xenomorphs is their trial to be accepted as adults, that could explain their incompetence
Yeah that is an explanation but the point of what I was saying was that for an "alien vs predator" movie making one of them completely useless however justified that may be, is incredibly disingenuous and disrespectful to the franchise and its fans.
I just think they didnt want the Predators to be overpowered, because the predator from the Arnie movie or even from Predators could easily deal with multiple Aliens in this kind of scenario. They are better equipped and think more logical. So it would be hard to make it a fair fight, without just having them fight hundreds of Xenomorphs.
I really like this dumb movie for some reason, so sorry if this comes across as apologetic or something like that :)
I get thats what they were doing, But it doesn't stop the fact that they had the rights to FINALLY! make an Alien vs Predator movie, and they didn't give us Arnies predator they didn't even give us glovers predator, so whats the point? if they weren't gonna respect both franchises why do it at all? and I'm not saying the predators should be treated fairly like some kind liberal utopia nonsense kind of way, I'm merely saying they should use them to they're full potential and give us a film worthy of both franchises and they didn't, they fucked it up.
Good Point 🙂
well they finally made the jungle predator again in the predator 3 movie. and then a team of 3 super predators. and predator 4 a sequel to predator 1 is in the works.
Would that bottle of Champagne have stayed closed at that altitude?
Predator 2 is my favorite movie ever. Nobody gives it enough respect
I was like the theory that this was a canned hunt for young predators and some of them were kind of thinking they could cheat their way through it it kind of explains why they're not very consistent and really bad at subtle
*forgive the copy and pasted response but i responded to someone else earlier today with this same idea* I hear that explanation a lot and every time i just think that makes the film worse because that would mean the predators have been Deliberately made to be shit, so my complaint that its an alien film with predators and not VS is even more relevant.
Actualy theres a theory that those civilisations are a split off from an older one. They have yet to find this older one yet. Just like they have yet to find other things they are shure exist.