Red Dragon: Deusdaecon Reviews
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I wouldn't say that Anthony Hopkins was playing a parody of his past self in Red Dragon. Hannibal was just openly mocking Will and harbored a lot of anger towards him since he was responsible for his incarceration. I actually consider Red Dragon to be better than all of the other Hannibal films. It was mostly the personal relationship between Will and Hannibal and the serial killer in this film that stood out to me. Anthony Hopkins actually wanted to make his own sequel to Hannibal but they wouldn't let him go through with it. I wouldn't have minded seeing a good conclusion to Hannibal's story instead of watching the film series end on a cliffhanger. He definitely played a parody of himself in Hannibal though.
Agreed, especially on the one in Hannibal almost being a parody of the Lecter in the other two films.
@@DoratTheKiller The Hannibal movie was such a parody of the actual Hannibal character that Anthony Hopkins worked on a screenplay to give his character a proper sendoff. He just lacked the chemistry with the Julianne Moore version of Clarice in the sequel and the subtle presence of his character was missing too. Hannibal fans are better off with the Hannibal TV series and with the Hannibal movies such as Manhunter, The Silence of the Lambs, and Red Dragon.
@@TAhowardrocksx2 Considering the choice of footage, I believe that Deusdaecon was specifically talking about Hannibal randomly mimicking the same "pure Virginian accent" from SoTL ("what does your father do, is he a coal miner?") while talking to Will, who doesn't have a distinctive accent...
It just felt like a sort of parody in that sense... English isn't my first language so I'm pretty bad at distinguishing accents, but even I can notice that Mr Hopkins doesn't use the same voice in any of the trilogy movies...
It makes sense in "Hannibal" singe he's in hiding, but for "Red Dragon" it's weird.
Anytime I see two people sitting down for coffee, I always hope someone will break open the window asking them if they read Sutter Cane
Do you Read Sutter Cane?
@@raymondhamill270 Do you know my favorite color is blue? (That's one of my favorite scenes in the movie)
@@BioGoji-zm5ph Pretty much all the scenes are my favorite scenes in the movie lol, that movie is just pure gold, like Event Horizon, and basically anything else Sam Neill is in..
@@afrog2666 I actually saw "in the mouth of madness" and "event horizon" back to back one night on starz.
That’d be a hell of a cross over. Imagine a conversation between Hannibal and Kane
I've seen Manhunter so many times it's really hard to watch this one and not compare it negatively. Manhunter was very much about Will's psychology (much like the TV series) and had a Lecter that was far less cartoonish. It's also one of the most beautifully-shot films I've ever seen-the scene with the tiger wonderfully captures the sense of discovering the animal through touch. I also loved Dollarhyde's brief compliment to Reba ("you look so good in the sun") that references the painting without beating you over the head with it.
Yeah, the music is really dated, but overall I find it the superior version.
That movie wouldn’t be the same without In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida
Nah, seeing Dollarhyde rush that poor museum worker with her scream of horror WAS pretty hilarious, it wasn't just you being sick.
leadvendor but how about Freddy getting set on fire in the wheelchair? that to me was hilarious.
ESPECIALLY with that face xD
He was like an angry chipmunk!
Ralph Fiennes, Anthony Hopkins and Edward Norton are incredible actors. Although this isnt the most amazing or unique movie Ive ever seen, their performances make it rather enjoyable to watch.
One little touch I loved about the movie is when Reba tries to touch his face and he stops her. In the movie we just see him looking at her fingers for a moment. In the when she she touches his face, he stops her but he thinks briefly how he could just bite each finger off one by one. And even mockingly wonders how she would be able to cut pies then. I thought they would just gloss over that whole bit, but when he looks at her fingers you can tell either the director or the actor knew what was in the book.
While I will always say that Hugh Dancy was the best Will Graham, I still greatly enjoy Red Dragon the movie. Anthony Hopkins is always great to watch as Hannibal and this is my introduction to Ralph Fiennes which made a huge impression on me since he is now one of my favorite actors, he can take scenes that would be comical in the hands of lesser actors and makes it both chilling and menacing which was why he was the perfect choice for Voldemort, a villain who is very theatrical and over the top while maintaining air of really frightening evil that I don’t think that another actor could pull it off. But Hannibal Lester has always been one of my favorite literary characters that I enjoy watching an adaptation of him even if it is not as good as it should be.
have you - or will you ever - consider reviewing the series Hannibal?
he is now!
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I think they were removed from his channel though
@@12227UserName they are there now
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Interesting if true. Thanks for the heads up. I might go check them out, to kill some time. Thanks again, buddy.
Some years ago I worked at a video store while in college and spoke to a customer who was renting Manhunter, it turned out he was a city homicide detective and had read the book as well. He said that the movie and the book should be required watching how criminal profiling is done and the science involved in putting it all together. In the original movie, the atmosphere and setups were well done one thing they left out of the remake that was in the original was that they cracked the code by using the Bible I think Old Testament. anyone that has seen the original movie gets to see just about every actor in Michael Manns stable from when he was in charge of Miami Vice TV Series
I read the original Thomas Harris series and I found Will Graham to be a much more involving protagonist then Clarice Starling. Graham was a good man heartlessly manipulated back into a profession that was destroying him and it costs Graham everything. He was tragic. In the book series, Clarice Starling runs of with Hannibal Lecter and they find happiness together. Ewwww.
Great review. I think you are spot on about the whole investigation thing.
Looking forward to seeing your review of the next movie.
very thoughtful review.. the pit stains was a great catch! thank u
I tried using the hangup switch to dial a friend on a pulse phone. It worked. 1 - 1 click, 2 - 2 clicks so forth. 0 is 10 clicks.
Unless you live where the zero comes first on the rotary then 0 is 1 and 9 is 10
Been watching a lot of your videos the last few days and I can't believe your sub count is only 19k.
But yeah really enjoying these. Good stuff.
I don’t get how some people hate the opening scene from Red Dragon. I thought that scene was great. It gives a little bit of backstory to Hannibal which is what I like rather than knowing his full backstory or absolutely no backstory.
I like the movie a lot, but Will Graham is played too normal for my tastes.
I agree
With so many characters that are so over the top it might just seem that way by comparison. But even if that is not the case how extreme would you want him to be
@@solidsnack352 In comparison to Manhunter, where Lector has far less attention given to him, Will's normalness in this movie is probably a necessity to help give the audience someone who feels grounded in reality that they can relate with. In Manhunter, Will was clearly a bit unhinged and affected by his past, but he was also the main focus of the movie along with the killer, while Lector was simply a side character who did serve an important role, but was not the star of the show, so the filmmakers didn't have to make Will seem normal in that film, because his own troubles added a layer to the film as it was just as much about him stopping the killer as it was about him dealing with his own issues.
@@BioGoji-zm5ph haven't seen it but I heard Bill Cox plays Lecter which I would love to see. I'll check it out and get back to you.
@@solidsnack352 I only saw Manhunter once, and it was nearly a decade ago, so my memory of it isn't exactly the most accurate, and I'm pretty sure it was an edited-for-TV version that I saw as well, but I do remember the part where Graham visited Lector pretty well, and the way that Bill Cox played Lector was far less intimidating than in this movie, but it also served to show how easy it was for him to seem unassuming and lower people's guards as he tried to get into their heads. The danger he presented was far less obvious than when Hopkins played the character. Cox's Lector could get into your head without you realizing it, because he never made it obvious that he was trying to do so in the first place. Despite Hopkins' excellent and (in my opinion) far more memorable performance, I always found it kind of obvious whenever he was trying to play with Clarice's head in Silence of the Lambs.
Again, though, it's been nearly a decade, so not everything I'm saying may be one hundred percent accurate. I could be misremembering certain things because of how long it's been since I saw it.
Would love to know your thoughts on the show. I think it's absolutely exceptional. Hugh Dancy is an incredible actor and the show is far better than the film series and pretty much as good as Silence of the lambs or even better! Btw the Leeds house is also the Ferris Bueller house. This comment, this is my design!
Hope all is well bro I still watch your reviews on repeat!
Same. I have them on several playlists. 👍
I hope you continue to make more videos. You’re very good
Hey man, just wanted to say thank you for all the reviews over the years. Hope you're doing well
Man id love to watch yoiur take on the series. I hope do that someday but till then ill keep watching and hoping.. lol
it’s coming!
What I love the most is there’s so many moments in this series that were inspired by real life events of serial killers, including making up facts to piss off the murderer in order to catch them. Although no one was set on fire, in one instance, a tombstone of one of his victims was smashed into the car of an employee working at a radio station.
THese intro's are making me hungry
I don't think they had their timeline wrong at the end. If you look at Will on the boat he shows no injury and very much recovered from the ordeal. If Silence of the Lambs took place right after, I would assume that they would have shown Will in a hospital or at least with some bandaged around his chest wound.
I love your reviews
I read the book recently and I can say will and lecture have a sense between each other before the events of the story, though it isn't one to one its still close
My friend please if you wouldn't mind mailing me the recipe for that lovely looking dish you made at the start of this video
Sweet Jesus, that gravy at the beginning.
Cant remember the exact recipe but it wasn't gravy.
That intro looked delicious!
i read that as bad dragon, whoops.
gr8 review tho, youre always so fun to listen too
I liked the ending of the film better than the book.
Spoiler: In the book, Dolarhyde ambushes Will at his home and slashes him across the face, permanently disfiguring him. Molly (Will's wife) then shoots Dolarhyde dead. It was a pretty lackluster ending when compared to the movie, where Will's insight into Dolarhyde's background resulted in both a psychological and a physical confrontation.
Am I the only one who thinks that Ralph Fiennes kind of resembles a young Harrison Ford whenever he scowls in this movie? Or that he also has a strange resemblance to Thomas Hayden Church (the guy who played Sandman in Spider-Man 3), at least at the point in time that Red Dragon was made?
Hey, Deus, did you ever watch Hopkins in the 1978 movie, Magic?
wow. give that slimeball an award for the funniest death scene I've ever seen! when I saw this I laughed my ass off!
Knowing about Hannibal Lecter but never seen silence of the lambs, I thought this movie was pretty good. And the ending leaves me curious into checking the iconic psychological crime movie and This clairise person
Totally agree with this review
good vid
It's a shame that Will didn't have magic crime-solving powers like he did in the TV show.
One of my problems with the series is how unrealistic the forensics is, including Will seemingly imagining way more detail than he could deduce, even subconsciously, from the evidence provided at a crime scene. Compare it to Frank Black's ability in _Millennium_ (preferably Season 1 before they cocked it up). Frank assesses certain things from the available evidence, but the details are still up for investigation. It's more engaging that way in terms of both following the intricacies of detective work, but also shows how down-to-earth the character despite having an enhanced ability.
I loved this review of Red Dragon. One of my favourite psychological thrillers and very underrated film in my opinion, deserves more praise. Bret Ratner's best work. (Though he made only terrible films after this film)
Hannibal Rising ruined the series. It is the worst film of the franchise yet Hannibal gets more hate. I only wish the story about Hannibal's origin would be remade by some one else again.
Now that i can finally comment on it, may i ask if you know why Anthony Hopkins disliked reprising the role in general?
Dragoonistiri because he thought the script was getting cliché and mostly because of his age.
Will there be, or as there been, a Manhunter review?
love the creepy intro XD
That old phone trick used to work. Each tap represents a number. 1 tap = 1, 2=2 e.t.c. 0 was 10 taps.
The cut to Norton after the comment about youtube commenters is so good, be it coincidence or purpose, that look on Norton`s face after the sting at youtube commenters was fucking amazing!
I said, commenting on youtube.
Hey, I`m only human..
These damn Hannibal intros make me hungry >.
Dude your intro is so intriguing I had to search it. It's from "DIE! SHE SAID". Not really into this type of genre because of that demonic scream they do but I have to say I like it. Neat!
EDIT: I enjoy your videos that I subbed you. Here are some suggestions I would love to see to tackle. Cheers mate.
For your consideration:
1. The Howling (Franchise) *My Favorite*
2. The Blob films; (1958 Classic, 1972 Sequel, and 1988 Remake)
3. House (1986 comedy horror) (Franchise)
Huh, the coworker that kisses Reba is always stuck in small roles it seems. He's a good character actor, though.
he was actually pretty good in luke cage.
Deusdaecon Reviews He was! Glad to hear you watched that. I honestly enjoy most of his characters, just wish he'd get bigger roles.
Deusdaecon Reviews that part where lecter folded paper into origami so that's where heavy rain got that from.
Also is your drawing in the beginning and your channel inspired from JTHM?
Actually yes that was the main stylistic inspiration, although i don't use them anymore
Can you review Manhunter? I love hearing you talk about these movies
not at the moment but i am currently reviewing the Hannibal tv show three episodes of which i already on the channel if that would interest you ?
@@deusdeaconReviews I saw that! I’m gonna watch your review after I watch the series myself.
What made you decide to do this review instead of man hunter? I personally haven't seen Manhunter, but I've read they are pretty much the same movie. Is that correct?
I didn't do manhanuter because, after reviewing silence of the lambs and hannibal, red dragon is in the same "anthony hopkins canon" of that series
There is a good movie comparison by the Nostalgia Critic
I would recommend that
Is there any plan to do the TV show?
No immediate plans but its still a possibility.
Deusdaecon Reviews okay thank you
@@deusdeaconReviews please do it!
Red Dragon is my personal favorite out of all the Hannibal movies.
I'LL BE.....A GOOD BOY...
i thought it was a trilogy
As much as I love Edward Norton in anything, I think I prefer Manhunter's version of Will. The "You are like me" comparison holds a lot more water in that adaptation.
Though Hopkin's Lecter in Red Dragon is far more impressive.
What was it you were preparing in the introduction I'm vegetarian but it did look intriguing and slightly appetising
For this it was a kind of roasted stuffed heart wrapped in bacon, In reference to lecters line when he's about to kill will.
Deusdaecon Reviews Oh ok well thank you for replying I see the reference now
In the book the Painting talked to Dollarhyde.
Something the movie never really explored which explains a lot of Dollarhyde's brand of crazy.
Plus explains why he had a painting for dinner.
I felt that could have be done in the movie and
not come off silly.
DK Minion They did do an alternate version of the scene where the painting speaks; however, in the final cut this was muted. I think it was a deleted scene on the DVD.
Whatever happened to the movie Manhunter?
Ed Norton is no William Petersen.
Are those warriors books behind you, my man?
Im not sure what you mean by "warriors books" so I doubt it.
we asked him were he buried him he gave us a recepie of a dipwell yea he dipped him in a dip and ate him lol
I don't think Lecter was doing a parody when he spoke with an accent, maybe he was doing a Starling impersonation..?
I wasn't talking about lecter I was talking about anthony hopkins and not a deliberate parody but an accidental parody because he didn't care as much about the role anymore.
Maybe that's why lector made fun of Clarice in the first movie? Maybe he has a hatred for southerners? Finding them "hillbilly" or ignorant? Since he believes himself to be the pinnacle of taste and intellect? I see what your saying
I haven't really read the books, just the movies, so I don't know everything about Lector himself. So, when Lectors was drugged for info, only give a dip recipe instead, how does that happen? What makes Lector so mentally strong that drugs have little to no effect on him? It just makes me think that there is a touch of something supernatural about him.
I think its more of a testament to his mental fortitude and how his mind is so focused
I kind of always saw lectors character as something of the perfect human, seeing as how he's extremely smart yet he's really strong and can manipulate almost any situation he's thrust into
I thought his behavior was to insult Edward character . Every time Edward character had no problem saying something Hannibal didn't like he had a petty response
As a TH-cam Commenter expert i can confirm that's true.
Wait so is this a review or a recap/analysis?? I was trying to see if it was worth watching but I’m worried now this is just explaining the entire film
I guess that depends on what you think a "review" is to me a review is "a critical appraisal of a book, play, film, etc." which is exactly what this is, I clearly discuss what is good and what I think is bad about the film aswell as discuss meaning, intention and interpretation of the actors and filmmakers who created it, but yes I do this through the medium of a chronological recap of the film in order to maintain context and cohesion as well as to involve the audience, giving the illusion that they are watching the film along with me as I discuss its content, hope this explanation helps.
I think a way they could have made the part where you hear the grandmother being abusive is if as you heard it you saw the killer's pictures of the terrible thing's he's done giving you the choice over whether you can justify his actions or hate him
I've never seen this movie, I honestly stopped watching at Hannibal because I waa introduced to the movies as a child who was tired of slasher flicks & wanted something a bit more dialogue driven. Now that I am an adult, just watching the scene mimicking Clarice's first meet with lector & Norton rebuffing lectors advances of mental intrusion & trying to emasculate lector I can't help but admire anthony hopkins acting all the more. As norton is about to walk away, you see lectors eyes beginning to water but not tear as he internalizes his emotions. Showing in my view, that he is upset at the intelligence of his opponent. It isn't someone he is able to condescend too, it is someone who IS NOT fascinated in studying him & that deeply effects lector as subtly shown. BUT take my words as they are because like I said, this movie I haven't seen. Only through your clips & description. Love your reviews though ❤
Ants in the afterbirth.
Manhunter is the superior film IMO.
Nope
Yes
Wait.... didn’t Hannibal use the guy as dip? Lol
I think he used the guy IN the dip
All actors do it amazingly! But to my taste, i love the dubbed voice of Hannibal Lecter, the latino american dub* Is great to hear and doesnt sounds so old (even tho, Anthony Hopkins is an old man...)
*says there are 4 paintings...... shows only 3*
I thought I was the only person to notice this.
As a foodie, I have to ask; where did you find the recipes for these intros and where can I? If you even remember.
the recipes were originally from the blog of janice poon, who was the food artist on the hannibal tv show, the blog still exists somewhere but the blog became the hannibal cook book and they are all in there.
Deusdaecon Reviews, thank you very much.
Wait, shouldn't Dr. Chilton be dead? Hannibal was going to eat him at the end of SOTL.
I hope after finishing the video you understand this film is a prequel, Because otherwise I failed MASSIVELY! in explaining this film.
@@deusdeaconReviews Yeah, its not your fault. I've seen these movies many times, i was just too dumb to realize it was a prequel.
So, in summary, movies not named after Hannibal Lecter (Silence of the Lambs and Red Dragon) are awesome, but movies that *are* named after him (Hannibal and Hannibal Rising) are terrible. I can get behind that.
pretty much yeah, but it makes sense when you think about it because Hannibal and Hannibal rising were pretty much created to capitalise on a popular character and that very rarely is the best way to go into a story
Now I'm hungry, but we're out of North Koreans. ;}
sorry were on vacation but if its any good were out of dogs too (not really Korean just couldn't pass this opportunity for a joke up)
Radar, take him back to the swamp and give him the blue pills.
that bookmark and annotation is so fucking awful for Lector. If he was setting Will up to continue getting lost, it doesn't make sense as a set-up for Will's murder.
That one dude killed jack n. And Danny d. So he had it coming...
I never understood that tiger scene...she reaches down and touches the tigers genitals...and dollarhyde has a physical reaction.. idk maybe its lost on me. It always made me feel very uncomfortable.
hey its the hulk
What is he making
if you're referring to the dish at the start of the video that would be stuffed heart.
@@deusdeaconReviewsthat sounds goood
Lol @ bisto gravy
If that was Bisto it wouldn't have taken so bloody long trust me.
Haha keep up the good work. Get me through my shifts these videos
This movie is pretty underrated. I prefer it to Silence of the Lambs. Lecter is much scarier in this because he actually hates the protagonist and Dolarhyde is a way more interesting character than Buffalo Bill
Is this a squeal or prequel?
It's a prequel, Taking place before silence of the lambs.
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Thanks, I was confused.
Even though Lecter and Chilton are MUCH older.
Red Dragon is a prequel to Silence of the Lambs, but it's also a remake of Manhunter. Manhunter was not a prequel to Silence since it was made first.
Godzi11anano Kaiju prequel, if you read the novel version of Silence of the Lambs the events of this book brings up the events of Red Dragon and what happened to Will after Red Dragon.
Manhunter>
it's because of this movie i cnat stop thinking about the hulk vs hannibal lecter
stay out of my head
Never !
Fucking sexual teranuansaous
Nope! Im out of here.
Sorry, can't watch this-- the narration when you address the camera is _so_ loud compared to your voice over narration during the film clips. Too jarring. I tried watching on a tablet and on a TV, with same audio results.
fair enough I cant exactly change anything now, So well chalk this one up to experience.
@@deusdeaconReviews Exactly. Thanks for taking some constructive criticism like a gentleman. ☺
no problem i hope you consider checking out my more recent videos with what i would hope is improved audio
To series 1 & 2 were great. Season 3 was shit, so self indulgent imo
Some would argue that the entire point of the show was self indulgence.
*TV
Yeah, but somewhere along the line it seemed to lose intrigue and just show over long shots of Hanibal opening a wine bottle or cutting some meat. The story just went from being a gritty cop drama with a new killer every week (like Luther or Whitechapel) and an underlying plot in the background, to just being a nonsensical farce where Hanibal just seemed to kill people at random, and Gillian Anderson's god awful acting. The finale of S2 was brilliant, but then season three just made the build up all for naught. I respect your opinion if you like season 3 but for me it just didn't work.