Howdy Brock! As I have probably mentioned too many times before, I think it all comes down to how/what you are using the equipment for. If I were relying on the tractor full time, whether as a business or a farmer, I could justify the expense of the higher priced brands like Deere, Kubota, MF, etc. But for use on a small hobby or horse farm I'm sure I would be well served by one of the more affordable models. It would then come down to how close the dealers are and what their reputation for service was. Every manufacturer is going to have their hiccups... and to be honest I would be happy with any of them. Nicely done and thanks for sharing 🤠
Brock.... I owned a JD 4720 with the eHydro. The load match does not change engine RPM due to loading. Instead, in controls the transmission "gearing" and automatically lowers the effective gear ratio of the hydro transmission for more pushing/pulling torque. It worked amazingly well when pushing into a pile of dirt with the FEL. I could easily sit and spin all 4 tires, especially in Low range.
My cab MT 3-57 has recirculate on the AC and it’s def a necessity. I cut a lot of overgrown fields and you def want to recirc the air while doing that and not suck all that dust into the cab.
Consider putting a JD 5060E in the mix. Bigger, heavier, and more capacity in every respect. Costs less than the 4066R and has better finance deals. No DEF or regen on the 24 models. No hydro transmission but the power shuttle is very convenient once you get a few hours in the seat.
Every other Tractor I’ve looked at has the recirculating option for the AC. The only benefit to the way John Deere does it is if you’re constantly pulling air in from the outside then you’re constantly pushing air from the inside out which keeps the cab cleaner but a lot of John Deere owners complain about the AC not working good enough, so that would be a dealbreaker for me as well.
Brock my Kioti has recirculated for The A/C and works very well. Doing a lot of hay my cab stays clean. Have a buddy that has the 4066 and is complaining about his lift capacity and A/C not keeping up, small cab and winning of hydro.
Great video. The 2025R was my dream tractor, but after watching some videos, I decided to step up to the 2038R. That was a good move. After owning my 2038R for almost 3 years, I have a different view towards tractors in general. The 2038R is an excellent machine but lacks lift capacity. If I had to start over, I would look towards the 4 series with a cab. When comes to brands, they all make good machines, but I like JD products. In almost 3 years, I had minor problems with my 2038R and JD zero turn. The JD dealer is not too far from my house, and they always promptly address the issues. If I need a part, they have it, or it can be ordered within a couple of days. That means a lot to me.
Nicely done Brock. In the end it comes down to what tractor has the features that you like at a price that you can afford with a dealer you are comfortable with. This series is fantastic. You are doing a great job showing off each tractor. The positives, negatives and prices. Thanks
I just bought a Bobcat CT5555 it was not cheap but I really liked the features and power. I must admit 84 months 0% played a huge part in my decision too. White in the AZ heat and ducts for the AC and heating system were a nice touch too. Stereo prep already included too. No SCR or DEF was a must for me. We Moved from an open station Montana 2840. We are Getting older now and can't deal with the heat or cold as well anymore. Love your reviews keep up the good work! We also negotiated the inclusion of a rear wiper, cutting edge for the 74" bucket. We got the 3 rear remote kit and the factory 3rd function kit include as well. The first 400 hours service, fluids and filters were included as well. I just have to transport it myself to them for service. I also got fluid filled (Rim Guard) included. I added a backhoe to the 84 months 0% financing and got a mechanical thumb included in that deal.
Thanks for the video. I have this tractor from 2021. FYI Extendable 3-point arms are a add on. I find that I really like that feature along with the system for hooking attachments up. No more quick hitch. The tractor has fender extensions as a add on.
My TYM T654, which is the comparable model to the 4066, has a rear lift capacity of 4270lbs and an FEL lift capacity of 3122lbs. The price is around $42,000. The JD does have some nicer features, or options that cost even more, but what good are those if it can’t do the same work as other brands. The extra $20k is just too much for a less capable tractor.
Thanks for sharing. I agree with your comments, although the 654 is not a comparable tractor in my opinion. That is a utility tractor and this is a compact tractor. Big size difference even though the horsepowers matchup. 574 compares to the 4052.
I have a 2015 4066R with about 1000Hrs It's been good with a few minor issues. The biggest issue I have now is the rear diff doesn't work. Got it looked at and was too expensive to repair ($6k Cnd) The creep feature is awesome (Woo doggy!!) That works great. I also have the backhoe and a bunch of attachments' Tractor and loader only back in 2015 was $60,500 Cnd or about $47,500 USD
Great videos mate, we run a contracting business in Australia and have been running the 2-3-4 series tractors for years, we’re are now transitioning out of Deere as the price point is now ridiculous. I hope this changes as surely Deere will at some point realise they don’t have the market tied up like they used to. Whilst there a quality difference in some brands the top 5 brands now are pretty comparable to Deere with huge margins in price differences.
When I worked in a bakery, they did a test. They made 500 cakes a day and sold them for $4. Then they made 200 cakes a day and sold them for $10. They made more money on the $10 cakes and used less product and labor.
Some people dream of fancy cars and new trucks or big homes, me I dream about winning a lottery and buying a new tractor like any in your videos. I appreciate the time and effort you put into them. Thank you.
I feel that. Cost is such a huge factor on all this equipment, which is why I’m currently using the least expensive tractor brand on the market. Cost-of-living has gone up so much
It is like you talked about paying more for a Stihl chainsaw. Sometimes you get what you pay for. I bought the 4066R a couple months ago and it really came down to the dealer network. The dealer I bought from has a location in both cities where I will use the tractor. Good luck with your new purchase.
All comes down to personal preference. I love quality, to me it's the Yanmar YT359c all the way. Money left over to buy attachments while still getting a premium tractor.
I do not like the electronic controls for the 3 point. But i generally don't like electronics of any kind on my tractor (my experience, they always fail faster than a simple mechanical method)
John Deere has used that same electronic hitch control on their 6 and 7 series tractors since the early 90's. Provided the electronics of the hitch aren't much different, It's bulletproof
You are correct about being debt free! I grew up on the farm I now live on and my grandfather was a mechanical engineer! In undergrad and grad school I worked in body shops and was a licensed cars salesman. I have updated everything here by giving loans on equipment. Cash at 1/10 the value for 30 days; one dollar return for every three loaned. My CAT skid steer with 400 hours came to me two years old for $3000, during the last downturn. I loan on any equipment that is lean free and we are about to enter the next downturn. I am sitting and waiting money in hand; I can keep it or sell it. Remember new is used once one buys it! What new costs 50k today is worth 25k as soon as it leaves the lot. It is a way to have everything one wants; but, it takes patience!
It’s an awesome machine. And if people had the money they would buy it. I had a 4720 cab before i moved to utah. Amazing machine, it lifted more than enough.
My buddy has a new Kubota grand L series L6060. He got the hydrolic skidsteer quick attack . Very convenient. No more on and off to change implements unless you have to hook hoses up
Great video Brock. I agree they need an update, with new larger cab, and agree 100% those rear swing out windows seen on the competitors tractors is super nice. That cup holder does suck, and my tumbler doesn’t fit either. At least it doesn’t fit properly, but still able to use it. I have never seen a competitor’s tractor that has as good of an ergonomic feel, nor quality feel that the Deere tractors have. For anyone who owns a Cab 3R/4R , Ken’s bolt on hooks developed door strut for the right hand door. I have it on both my 3R and 4R cab tractors. Love the hitch assist , love the e hitch and the new LED lighting is fantastic for night work. It is the exact same cab as found on the 3 series cab tractors, that is 100% true. Deere does offer SSQA it can be optioned JDQA or SSQA, your choice. Most dealers do stock them in JDQA. My 3R sets noticeably lower and has 1 step, where the 4R has two steps. I know you know based on your recent hydraulic videos, that you can bump the pressure set screw up a bit, you can get the lift capacity up in the 3k range with a 4R without any cost, or problem, just have make sure you have the appropriate counterweight.
Very informative review, thanks! At some point I am hoping to go from my 2025r to a 3039r with cab…but like you mentioned the 3 and 4 series never got the updated operating station like the 1 and 2 series did…which is ridiculous. I thought it had been around 10 years, but they haven’t really been updated since around 2006! 😳
Resale is a huge reason I would go with a John Deere. Having had both a plastic and metal fender hood and fender tractor I can tell you if you drop something out of the bucket on to the plastic hood or as you drive through woods and scrape branches along the tractor, the plastic is by far more durable and doesn’t scratch dent or fade like all the rest. The ease in hooking up of the loaders and belly mowers is also superior on the John Deere! I hate those kickstand loaders. John Deere is by far worth the investment in my opinion!
Brock, i agree with you....but will add resale...ya give a bit more to get the deere but will will get most of the difference back in resale.... i am also a deere guy and not sure why,,,,had the small stuff all my life and now a 1025r.....
Agreed on the JD vs SSQA. I much prefer the JD over SS. Had JD on a 3 series but now have the SSQA on my 4066M. Skid Steer is more tricky to align and engage.
@@RockhillfarmYT yea I saw it but I just am trying to make sure the other viewers that have not seen that review to think about Yanmar. Like your channel!
No doubt the 4066R is a NICE tractor, large dealer network, parts availability etc. I was cross shopping for a 3046R($56000) and a Kubota L4760($48000) when my choice fell on TYM T474 (27800) with as similar as possible features. I've had my T474 for 4 years and got almost 500hours on it now, and it has worked really well for me. No regen reqest ever to date for me.
Brock, lota of great information. I do like the controls on the fender for the creep feature. I do not like the price wow. Overall I think it's probably a great tractor
I’ve had some problems with my tractor, which is obviously John Deere. I’m also in Facebook groups for all the other brands and I read the problems that people are having with those.
My local dealer has a 3R and 4R cab side by side. I crawled all over each with a tape measure, and the cabs appear to be the same. That would be a no for me buying a 4R with that tiny cab.
I like Deere stuff in general but the 4066R that I had wasn't my favorite. It had two problems. One, being hydrostatic it was short of power. Try to take it out on the road with a bush hog on back and go up a hill and you would lose 10-15 mph. Second in Texas the A/C did suck. I spent $500 getting the windows tinted and that didn't help much. Deere tech charged it to specs. Stilll sucked. One problem is the AC vents are under the cab roof and no insulation. The roof gets so hot the cool air couldn't cool the vents off enough to blow cool air on you. Second as you mention no "recirc" function. I have had many larger Deere's: several 6022's, a 6125R and even an old 2555 with Soundgard cab. They all had ac's that worked well. Traded off the 4066R after less than a year...........
It’s not a big deal to me, but if I was buying this brand new today, I would have them switch it over before I took it home. You don’t even have to get an adapter, John Deere set it up the dealership with SSQA
One thing about those adapters (and any type of adapter) is that it lowers your lift capacity. Not only because of the weight of the adapter, but it's moving your load out from the pins by the thickness of the adapter.
There IS an "Auto-connect 3point &Pto system" out there. The "starter-kit" is about 6000$,& about 2000$ MORE for EACH implement. ( seen it on Utube three years ago)
There was a bit of a redesign, not anything huge but the 4075 model came out and they’ve got a northern exposure package or something like that where it has heavier axles and they changed a few things and of course the motor is 75 hp now. I’m always torn with these because I kind of like an open station tractor and I see a lot of the four series in the M and I’m not really sure what the difference is but there seem to be a lot of them out there used and some pretty decent deals on some of them but buying used when you start getting into a cab with all the electronics is kind of a different story it’s a lot more that could go wrong as well and I agree about the price but I always kind of keep coming back to the John Deere when I’m looking though, I really don’t have a lot of experience in it. I like the TM for the price difference but like you said with the John Deere, you’re always going to get parts and in a reasonable amount of time and there are dealers everywhere if you can’t handle some thing yourself, the other thing I like is that there’s a ton of aftermarket parts and that includes cheap Chinese stuff off of eBay and the difference and the price on those parts is crazy. Some stuff like the mower spindles are a third of the price and I’m sure they’re not as good quality, but I’ve been using them and it’s nice to get a spindle for $27 instead of 97. But the aftermarket and little things like a switch or mirror, or a step, everybody’s going to have them for the John Deere and stuff like the TM and coyote you might be kind of on your own to build some of that stuff but with John Deere they’re going to have parts for it at every level and pretty much every manufacturer And it’s just so convenient. Like you were saying with an offbrand, you never know how long you might have to wait for a simple little part that keeps you from running. Another advantage I see on the John Deere is resale price, if you use your tractor, you keep it clean you keep it nice you don’t abuse it and tear it up. You’re gonna get a really good resale price on it, I see an old Branson or an old Mahindra And those models change so much you never really know what you’re dealing with in an older used model and it can get confusing but you know if you put 60 grand into the John Deere you’re still gonna get a good chunk of that back in five years if you want to sell it, withan off name brand you never know and if you can’t get parts for broken stuff, you may lose most of that money but you always know John Deere or Kabota. You’re gonna get a pretty good resell value on it as well so that kind of offsets the higher price when you’re considering it all.
Thanks for the feedback. On that 4075 RI ask the Salesman at the national Farm machinery show if there was a difference between it and a 4066 other than the engine horsepower He said no. Probably wasn’t aware.
@@RockhillfarmYT if you look, there’s a model called the northern something, and it’s basically like a heavy duty version of it and has a couple different features, I think there was something to do with the front axle having a truss or being beefed up somehow and I remember there were a couple other minor differences, but I don’t remember what they are now. I used to know what the difference on the model was, I think it’s something to do with the hydrostatic option, but I don’t remember that either lol. My biggest problem on these John Deere is there a little too narrow from my taste, the four series is a little better but I really like the 3046 size of a tractor but they’re pretty tipsy and I’d probably have to put 2 inch spacers on there and whenever I use spacers, I always worry about Whether or not that’s gonna put too much stress on the axles and from what people say a little wire and a bit more stable without the spacers, but I don’t really know that much about them to where I could say myself. That’s why I like these videos, you and Andrew are good at explaining things, and giving us a pretty good view of it from a video
Like you said get what you pay for ran johndeere tractor since 1995 never had a problem have a new johndeere 4052r cab its my first cab tractor cab is well worth the money
@@RockhillfarmYT if you would try to find one. We have two older deutz tractors and deutz hay equipment from the 90s but don’t know much about the newer ones
I say get them , whomever to give u one to use for a year , or if u r intent on still buying one get one that u think most people watching would get for the videos or get the tractor u love . My 3 cents of corse . I will never buy a jd I don't have the money or love of them like some do . But do whatever you want is my 2 cents. Great job with all u do .
The reason I don’t have a tractor yet as I was waiting to see if anyone would offer me a deal… The Tractor shopping saga will be over in a couple weeks
I assume the comparable Kubota, you’re speaking of is the Grand l6060. That would be my choice if money were no option in that class of Tractor. And I am a John Deere guy through and through.
jd has the best parts network there is period. All those electronic features are awesome when they work correctly but when they act up its a nightmare, My case mx 100c has the outer controls on the fenders for the 3 point hitch and the switch shorted out and dropped the 3 point while I was going down the road with a set of 4 bottom plows, not a good day and the town guys didnt like me much that day either, just some thing to think about because it does happen
You also said that the electric setup to move the tractor back and forth when attaching the 3 point makes extendable arms unnecessary. I disagree. When you are already bent over to attach the 3 point you would then have to straighten up your body to move the tractor and now bend down again. And if you still did not have it quite aligned stand up again. With extendable arms its not a problem. One time bend down and attach. 99 out of 100 times that's how it goes with my LS
That's what I was thinking. If you're not 100% squared up with the implement, the creep feature doesn't seem as useful as extendable arms. I don't run any real agricultural implements like balers or anything, but what I do have are all set up for a Quick Hitch (tiller, box blade, bush hog, flail mower, weight bracket). With that, I don't have to be 100% square on because I can usually give it a little shove that'll bring it into alignment.
I’ve got a 4066R…that feature is overrated. Yes, it is nice, but you’ve got to go through a whole list of steps from the seat to engage it. When I’m struggling to hook up an implement, a quick move with the telescopic link would be welcome.
The interior has had some refreshes and they have corrected some of the poorly designed items, like the 3-point lever. Get out and use these tractors, test the lift and drive them for some time before you call this a review. I have a 4066R and a Kubota L6060 Grand and both have good features and bad. None of them are perfect and each should buy what they like the best.
Yeah, it’s not a review because I can’t do a review in a parking lot but it’s the best I can do and people seem to be enjoying the videos. I also didn’t review the title. This is the experience of shopping for a tractor. I do have three tractors being delivered to the house this week for reviews
@@RockhillfarmYT At 0:30 you say to fit in your review series. Then in the description "John Deere 4066R review. John Deere 4052R review" I don't mean to pick at you. I like your videos, but on these tractor "reviews" it feels fake. It feels like you watched other videos and are trying to regurgitate what they said. If you have opinions from sitting in there. Awesome. But you are beyond your opinion. Keep up the videos, but stay real and stay away from the clickbaity titles like this one. Just a fan's opinion.
I’m not bothered by your comment. I enjoyed the conversation Did you see my announcement the other day that I have four different tractors being delivered to the farm as Demo models so that I can do real reviews running them? I also have real seat time on most of the three series tractors, and both of the two series tractors and the one series on multiple different occasions. I’ve only run the four series at shows I don’t think the title is Clickbait at all. What does it say. I thought this was my dream tractor. I did think this was my dream Tractor. Now I’ve decided it’s a little bit too expensive This series of videos is supposed to be saving someone time from going to the dealership and asking all these questions so I would call it a tractor buyers guide I did put in the description because you have to type something there and buyers guide would never show up in search I’ve compared almost every brand of this size Tractor now and included prices and the differences in the specs. I’m compiling those for an overall Beyers guide from my point of view which I believe will save people a lot of time if they are shopping for one of these machines Multiple people told me they went and looked at the same machine I’m talking about, but didn’t realize some of the things I talked about in the video If I have any real skill that works for what I do, it is my ability to take in a lot of information and then summarize it in a way that is easily digestible.
I grew up in the seventies driving John Deere tractors. I'm now disappointed in John Deere's quality and prices. I have nothing against any brand but with inflation nowadays I have to get the best product for the least amount of money and the Korean market fits that spot.
I think John Deere was always a reputable name but with the way things are going in society today with inflation and such a lot of other companies are putting out a really quality product and for a lot less. “Objects in the rear view mirror are closer than they appear”
If you never do any real farm work or no big fields then I think the Hydro stat makes sense. If you’re moving logs and spreading gravel and stuff like that, it’s a lot more convenient I see the advantages to both
I never understood why JD has to have proprietary implement attachments. Everyone else uses skid steer attachments, except JD. This is just bad business in my opinion.
I bought a new John Deere 4052r in 21, I like the tractor but have had more problems than I like in just 200 hours. They were all covered under warranty thankfully, but doesn’t give me high hopes for the future. I can’t believe how much they have gone up in price in just a couple years I paid 48k out the door for mine in August of 21.
Hei Brock, I feel like we have some diverging opinions. Your reason why the higher price for the John Deere is justified, partly based on arguments that are either pointless or should be expected from any brand. The dealer network for JD is the biggest? I give a f*** about how many dealers they have - the important thing is to have a competent dealer close to my location. It neither helps to have a dealer close by if they're incompetent, not does it help to have a gazillion dealers in the country when the closest is a 5 hour drive away. You always got parts right off the shelve with your JD dealer? Even fuel filters and similar items? Come on, I get fuel filters and similar stuff for my 39 year old backhoe off the shelve from the local "tool and parts" store. Besides the fact that it's unlikely that an oil chance or fuel filter change comes out of the blue, I had ONE part for my backhoe that I couldn't source from any store and had to get it custom made for me - and that was a somewhat special part of the front axle that should never break under normal circumstances (I suspect, the previous owner was having an incident with the machine - if a 30mm track rod is bent, there was definitely something happening). But we're talking about a machine that was probably produces less often during the entire production period run than a single JD tractor model is produced in a quarter of a year, and it's obsolete since some 30 years or so. Still I can get pretty much any part for it. Sure, you might come across some Chinese brands or so where sourcing parts can be a real challenge. But any REASONABLE brand should not expose you to any challenge getting pretty much any part. Though a lot of it is also coming down to the dealer. If the dealer doesn't care and has no understanding for the customer needs, the best brand doesn't help. Is a machine better because it's American engineered? Definitely not. It's better if it has some features that no one else has or lasts longer or excels in a particular job that is important to the particular user. Apart from that, "American engineered" only comforts your patriotism. For some people that might be an argument, and hey, you're free to have that being the feature that determines what tractor you buy. It's your money. And please don't get me wrong, I'm NOT saying, the tractor is WORSE because it's American engineered - I'm only saying that a certain flag on the hood doesn't guarantee that it's a better machine just because of the flag. Granted, for compact tractors there's a certain chance that a JD is amongst the best you can get. Compact ones are rather unfamous in other parts of the world, hence it's difficult to compare. With full size tractors it's getting pretty obvious though - none of the big names is really having an edge over the competition and all of the "my tractor is better" claims are just bullshit. In some features a JD is best, in others it's a New Holland, in others it's a Fendt, in others it's a Case, or Claas, or Valtra, or JCB... Ok, maybe not JCB, my bad! Granted, that option to creep the tractor from the outside to hook up an implement is definitely a slick feature and might be worth something for some people. But I think, it's rather uncommon in the world of full size tractors, despite implements being changed there on a frequent basis. So to me it looks like a feature that is very convenient if you don't have a lot of experience, and of course can help for the intermedieate level. But the more professional the application, the less crucial it gets. If it's worth the money is up to the buyer, as always. All in all, not saying it's a bad tractor, but one should really be careful with arguments. Not everything that is quickly said remains a valid argument when thinking about it.
I don’t see where we have diverging opinions. I’m not ranking this John Deere tractor in my top 5. I would not buy it I did a poll asking viewers which Tractor I should get and 30% of people said the John Deere which was a close second to the Kubota. I wouldn’t pick the Kabota either. I repeated the justifications that other people gave and then I said, I don’t think it’s worth what they’re asking I said an oil filter for my 1941 John Deere tractor. I’ve had a lot of obscure parts for the tractor and skid steer and mower and those were all in stock too. I list the positive points about the brand, but that doesn’t mean I would buy it I think you could make a case that it is worth paying an extra $5000 for a John Deere. You cannot make the case it’s worth paying an extra $20,000.
@@RockhillfarmYT Well, then I obviously wasn't able to catch the essence. It's already 2:30am here, so I blame it on that 😀 I noticed that you mentioned the significant price difference, and I definitely agree that 20k extra is a lot of money unless there is a very very good reason to spend it. I myself wouldn't be able to find such a reason, but maybe that's only me. But I had a bit the feeling that you would try to convey the message that JD would have some perks that make it much more valuable than others, despite not really being perks as such but things I would take for granted for almost every brand. And that's why I thought, we would be having different opinions, but that's now also cleared out. But everyone can buy whatever they want. A lot of it is personal preference anyway and there is no ultimate solution to everything. Last but not least, your content is pretty informative, please keep it coming 🙂
I’ve got a 2006 New Holland Tc40Da which is made of plastic, and the fenders have cracks in them. Probably will have to fabricate new metal fenders for it eventually. Personally I wouldn’t buy a plastic “fantastic” tractor after my experience. Metal is king. Age isn’t nice on plastic.
I have a 01 Tc 45d which has fiberglass "Sheetmetal" not a crack in it . If you go on Tractor By Net and do a search the DA's were cracking a few years after they came out. Lots of people posted fixes for the cracking issue . Some were solved with a plastic welder and adding rubber isolation blocks. If interested I can help with research I've researched that model extensively.🍻
@@Spitter-ud8jd I would definitely like some help. Appreciate any research you’ve got! 🤠 The tractor has close to 1,000 hours and it’s perfect other than the plastic fenders. I’m also trying to figure out how to get SSQA and third function. Thanks
@@Brette_Caldwell There are so many good posts on those subjects that I can't list. For fender repair Google Tc 40 DA cracked fenders and read the TBN posts. Do the same for SSQA and 3rd function, ATI makes a very well-constructed adapter and WR Long makes the most popular 3rd function kit. 🍻
Had to make another comment after finishing your video lol why even shop if your just gonna pick john deere lol from what i cann tell your a sucker for the deere ant anything wrong with that if you have the bank roll for it when we all know now adays they are all good tractors .
If you can not see the bucket from the cab it is not worth buying. This tractor has way to many things that can damaged from normal use,this tractor is best on mancured farms.
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Howdy Brock! As I have probably mentioned too many times before, I think it all comes down to how/what you are using the equipment for. If I were relying on the tractor full time, whether as a business or a farmer, I could justify the expense of the higher priced brands like Deere, Kubota, MF, etc. But for use on a small hobby or horse farm I'm sure I would be well served by one of the more affordable models. It would then come down to how close the dealers are and what their reputation for service was. Every manufacturer is going to have their hiccups... and to be honest I would be happy with any of them. Nicely done and thanks for sharing 🤠
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Brock.... I owned a JD 4720 with the eHydro. The load match does not change engine RPM due to loading. Instead, in controls the transmission "gearing" and automatically lowers the effective gear ratio of the hydro transmission for more pushing/pulling torque. It worked amazingly well when pushing into a pile of dirt with the FEL. I could easily sit and spin all 4 tires, especially in Low range.
My cab MT 3-57 has recirculate on the AC and it’s def a necessity. I cut a lot of overgrown fields and you def want to recirc the air while doing that and not suck all that dust into the cab.
Consider putting a JD 5060E in the mix. Bigger, heavier, and more capacity in every respect. Costs less than the 4066R and has better finance deals. No DEF or regen on the 24 models. No hydro transmission but the power shuttle is very convenient once you get a few hours in the seat.
Every other Tractor I’ve looked at has the recirculating option for the AC. The only benefit to the way John Deere does it is if you’re constantly pulling air in from the outside then you’re constantly pushing air from the inside out which keeps the cab cleaner but a lot of John Deere owners complain about the AC not working good enough, so that would be a dealbreaker for me as well.
tint helped mine.
Ken's bolt ons sells a shock kit for the right door on John Deers. Ive got one on my JD3720 and it works great, easy to install!
Brock my Kioti has recirculated for The A/C and works very well. Doing a lot of hay my cab stays clean. Have a buddy that has the 4066 and is complaining about his lift capacity and A/C not keeping up, small cab and winning of hydro.
In addition to the ehydro, the resale value would be a major consideration for me to justify the higher initial cost.
Great video. The 2025R was my dream tractor, but after watching some videos, I decided to step up to the 2038R. That was a good move. After owning my 2038R for almost 3 years, I have a different view towards tractors in general. The 2038R is an excellent machine but lacks lift capacity. If I had to start over, I would look towards the 4 series with a cab. When comes to brands, they all make good machines, but I like JD products. In almost 3 years, I had minor problems with my 2038R and JD zero turn. The JD dealer is not too far from my house, and they always promptly address the issues. If I need a part, they have it, or it can be ordered within a couple of days. That means a lot to me.
Nicely done Brock. In the end it comes down to what tractor has the features that you like at a price that you can afford with a dealer you are comfortable with. This series is fantastic. You are doing a great job showing off each tractor. The positives, negatives and prices. Thanks
I just bought a Bobcat CT5555 it was not cheap but I really liked the features and power. I must admit 84 months 0% played a huge part in my decision too. White in the AZ heat and ducts for the AC and heating system were a nice touch too. Stereo prep already included too. No SCR or DEF was a must for me. We Moved from an open station Montana 2840. We are Getting older now and can't deal with the heat or cold as well anymore. Love your reviews keep up the good work!
We also negotiated the inclusion of a rear wiper, cutting edge for the 74" bucket. We got the 3 rear remote kit and the factory 3rd function kit include as well. The first 400 hours service, fluids and filters were included as well. I just have to transport it myself to them for service. I also got fluid filled (Rim Guard) included. I added a backhoe to the 84 months 0% financing and got a mechanical thumb included in that deal.
I’m getting ready to review a bobcat
@@RockhillfarmYT Cool! I think the 5558 is just not worth the extra money IMHO.
It will be very interesting to hear what you think. It is my first cab tractor and first hydostat transmission.
@@keppypaul I don’t remember the model number they are bringing, but it will be here for a week
Thanks for the video. I have this tractor from 2021. FYI Extendable 3-point arms are a add on. I find that I really like that feature along with the system for hooking attachments up. No more quick hitch. The tractor has fender extensions as a add on.
My TYM T654, which is the comparable model to the 4066, has a rear lift capacity of 4270lbs and an FEL lift capacity of 3122lbs. The price is around $42,000. The JD does have some nicer features, or options that cost even more, but what good are those if it can’t do the same work as other brands. The extra $20k is just too much for a less capable tractor.
Thanks for sharing. I agree with your comments, although the 654 is not a comparable tractor in my opinion. That is a utility tractor and this is a compact tractor. Big size difference even though the horsepowers matchup.
574 compares to the 4052.
I have a 2015 4066R with about 1000Hrs
It's been good with a few minor issues.
The biggest issue I have now is the rear diff doesn't work. Got it looked at and was too expensive to repair ($6k Cnd)
The creep feature is awesome (Woo doggy!!) That works great.
I also have the backhoe and a bunch of attachments'
Tractor and loader only back in 2015 was $60,500 Cnd or about $47,500 USD
John deere engineer-why would we do that when we can add a $5000.00 "solution" to a problem that a 600 telescoping draft link would fix.
Great, great, great review and analysis~
Great videos mate,
we run a contracting business in Australia and have been running the 2-3-4 series tractors for years, we’re are now transitioning out of Deere as the price point is now ridiculous.
I hope this changes as surely Deere will at some point realise they don’t have the market tied up like they used to.
Whilst there a quality difference in some brands the top 5 brands now are pretty comparable to Deere
with huge margins in price differences.
Agreed
When I worked in a bakery, they did a test. They made 500 cakes a day and sold them for $4. Then they made 200 cakes a day and sold them for $10. They made more money on the $10 cakes and used less product and labor.
Some people dream of fancy cars and new trucks or big homes, me I dream about winning a lottery and buying a new tractor like any in your videos. I appreciate the time and effort you put into them. Thank you.
I feel that. Cost is such a huge factor on all this equipment, which is why I’m currently using the least expensive tractor brand on the market.
Cost-of-living has gone up so much
It is like you talked about paying more for a Stihl chainsaw. Sometimes you get what you pay for. I bought the 4066R a couple months ago and it really came down to the dealer network. The dealer I bought from has a location in both cities where I will use the tractor. Good luck with your new purchase.
All comes down to personal preference. I love quality, to me it's the Yanmar YT359c all the way. Money left over to buy attachments while still getting a premium tractor.
I do not like the electronic controls for the 3 point.
But i generally don't like electronics of any kind on my tractor (my experience, they always fail faster than a simple mechanical method)
John Deere has used that same electronic hitch control on their 6 and 7 series tractors since the early 90's. Provided the electronics of the hitch aren't much different, It's bulletproof
You are correct about being debt free! I grew up on the farm I now live on and my grandfather was a mechanical engineer! In undergrad and grad school I worked in body shops and was a licensed cars salesman. I have updated everything here by giving loans on equipment. Cash at 1/10 the value for 30 days; one dollar return for every three loaned. My CAT skid steer with 400 hours came to me two years old for $3000, during the last downturn. I loan on any equipment that is lean free and we are about to enter the next downturn. I am sitting and waiting money in hand; I can keep it or sell it. Remember new is used once one buys it! What new costs 50k today is worth 25k as soon as it leaves the lot. It is a way to have everything one wants; but, it takes patience!
It’s an awesome machine. And if people had the money they would buy it. I had a 4720 cab before i moved to utah. Amazing machine, it lifted more than enough.
LS has the recirculate feature
My buddy has a new Kubota grand L series L6060. He got the hydrolic skidsteer quick attack . Very convenient. No more on and off to change implements unless you have to hook hoses up
Great video Brock.
I agree they need an update, with new larger cab, and agree 100% those rear swing out windows seen on the competitors tractors is super nice. That cup holder does suck, and my tumbler doesn’t fit either. At least it doesn’t fit properly, but still able to use it.
I have never seen a competitor’s tractor that has as good of an ergonomic feel, nor quality feel that the Deere tractors have.
For anyone who owns a Cab 3R/4R , Ken’s bolt on hooks developed door strut for the right hand door. I have it on both my 3R and 4R cab tractors.
Love the hitch assist , love the e hitch and the new LED lighting is fantastic for night work.
It is the exact same cab as found on the 3 series cab tractors, that is 100% true.
Deere does offer SSQA it can be optioned JDQA or SSQA, your choice. Most dealers do stock them in JDQA.
My 3R sets noticeably lower and has 1 step, where the 4R has two steps.
I know you know based on your recent hydraulic videos, that you can bump the pressure set screw up a bit, you can get the lift capacity up in the 3k range with a 4R without any cost, or problem, just have make sure you have the appropriate counterweight.
Very informative review, thanks! At some point I am hoping to go from my 2025r to a 3039r with cab…but like you mentioned the 3 and 4 series never got the updated operating station like the 1 and 2 series did…which is ridiculous. I thought it had been around 10 years, but they haven’t really been updated since around 2006! 😳
Did you have a link to Andrew’s video?
E-HYDRO is drive by wire like the KIOTI NX
No extendable draw bar so what if you can slow back the tractor. You have to be square to the implement without an extendable draw bar.
Resale is a huge reason I would go with a John Deere. Having had both a plastic and metal fender hood and fender tractor I can tell you if you drop something out of the bucket on to the plastic hood or as you drive through woods and scrape branches along the tractor, the plastic is by far more durable and doesn’t scratch dent or fade like all the rest. The ease in hooking up of the loaders and belly mowers is also superior on the John Deere! I hate those kickstand loaders. John Deere is by far worth the investment in my opinion!
Brock, i agree with you....but will add resale...ya give a bit more to get the deere but will will get most of the difference back in resale.... i am also a deere guy and not sure why,,,,had the small stuff all my life and now a 1025r.....
I have the 3039R and I love it. Definitely spoiled when I come from the 1026R
Good deal thanks Brock
Agreed on the JD vs SSQA. I much prefer the JD over SS. Had JD on a 3 series but now have the SSQA on my 4066M. Skid Steer is more tricky to align and engage.
I love my MX5100. It is not hydrostatic. Has no computers and does not have the emissions that newer tractors have.
Thanks for sharing. I pretty much never encounter a Kabota tractor owner who is unhappy with their Tractor.
run run run away!!! Go buy a Yanmar YT359C look at my comparison. Retired on the farm. Yanmar you get both Quality And a Value for your money.
I reviewed that Tractor about a month ago and said I thought it might be the best tractor in this horsepower range on the market
@@RockhillfarmYT yea I saw it but I just am trying to make sure the other viewers that have not seen that review to think about Yanmar. Like your channel!
Regarding HVAC recirculate, LS MT5.73 does have that. But it’s a manual lever at the air intake. Is it possible that JD has something similar
I have the 4044m, open station, great machine but im not a cab guy.
No doubt the 4066R is a NICE tractor, large dealer network, parts availability etc. I was cross shopping for a 3046R($56000) and a Kubota L4760($48000) when my choice fell on TYM T474 (27800) with as similar as possible features. I've had my T474 for 4 years and got almost 500hours on it now, and it has worked really well for me. No regen reqest ever to date for me.
Brock, lota of great information.
I do like the controls on the fender for the creep feature.
I do not like the price wow.
Overall I think it's probably a great tractor
What horsepower range have you decided is the right tractor for you
50-60
Get the Kubota Mx5400 HST cab tractor. I promise you won’t regret the decision. I absolutely love mine!
I live in Nowata and have a 2017 John Deere 6120E you could do a video on 😉
Dang, that’s a big tractor. You farm a lot of acreage?
@@RockhillfarmYT It’s 120hp. Got 140 acres here. I pull a 15ft brushhog with it, lots of loader work here and there, firewood stuff too
It’s a sweet and sharp tractor. I always keep it inside and it’s only got 1,150 hours on it. I’ve tinted all the windows too
I found a 2020 4052r 4wd hst open station with 440r loader about 170hrs for $26,500. Whats the consensus about this tractor.
If money was not a barrier, it would be easy. That is a beautiful tractor, but for the home owner with small acreage
Doesnt the deere also have the tightest turning radius
John Deere does have a tighter turn radius on the small compacts. Not sure on the 4 series
John Deere has axle issues rear remote issues timing rod loader issues emission issues shall I go on
I’ve had some problems with my tractor, which is obviously John Deere. I’m also in Facebook groups for all the other brands and I read the problems that people are having with those.
My local dealer has a 3R and 4R cab side by side. I crawled all over each with a tape measure, and the cabs appear to be the same. That would be a no for me buying a 4R with that tiny cab.
I like Deere stuff in general but the 4066R that I had wasn't my favorite. It had two problems. One, being hydrostatic it was short of power. Try to take it out on the road with a bush hog on back and go up a hill and you would lose 10-15 mph. Second in Texas the A/C did suck. I spent $500 getting the windows tinted and that didn't help much. Deere tech charged it to specs. Stilll sucked. One problem is the AC vents are under the cab roof and no insulation. The roof gets so hot the cool air couldn't cool the vents off enough to blow cool air on you. Second as you mention no "recirc" function. I have had many larger Deere's: several 6022's, a 6125R and even an old 2555 with Soundgard cab. They all had ac's that worked well. Traded off the 4066R after less than a year...........
Thanks for the feedback
Nice review. Are you doing a review of the Massey Ferguson 2800M series. Those are really nice also.
Reviewing a Massey today. Any features I should try to highlight?
If the quick-attach is a huge hang up for you, there are JD to SSQA adapters on the market.
It’s not a big deal to me, but if I was buying this brand new today, I would have them switch it over before I took it home.
You don’t even have to get an adapter, John Deere set it up the dealership with SSQA
@@RockhillfarmYT I'm an idiot who will eventually wind up with attachments with multiple interfaces 🤣
One thing about those adapters (and any type of adapter) is that it lowers your lift capacity. Not only because of the weight of the adapter, but it's moving your load out from the pins by the thickness of the adapter.
Now if someone would just come up with a way to auto connect the PTO as you mount the implement, life would be grand.
There IS an "Auto-connect 3point &Pto system" out there. The "starter-kit" is about 6000$,& about 2000$ MORE for EACH implement. ( seen it on Utube three years ago)
There was a bit of a redesign, not anything huge but the 4075 model came out and they’ve got a northern exposure package or something like that where it has heavier axles and they changed a few things and of course the motor is 75 hp now.
I’m always torn with these because I kind of like an open station tractor and I see a lot of the four series in the M and I’m not really sure what the difference is but there seem to be a lot of them out there used and some pretty decent deals on some of them but buying used when you start getting into a cab with all the electronics is kind of a different story it’s a lot more that could go wrong as well and I agree about the price but I always kind of keep coming back to the John Deere when I’m looking though, I really don’t have a lot of experience in it. I like the TM for the price difference but like you said with the John Deere, you’re always going to get parts and in a reasonable amount of time and there are dealers everywhere if you can’t handle some thing yourself, the other thing I like is that there’s a ton of aftermarket parts and that includes cheap Chinese stuff off of eBay and the difference and the price on those parts is crazy. Some stuff like the mower spindles are a third of the price and I’m sure they’re not as good quality, but I’ve been using them and it’s nice to get a spindle for $27 instead of 97. But the aftermarket and little things like a switch or mirror, or a step, everybody’s going to have them for the John Deere and stuff like the TM and coyote you might be kind of on your own to build some of that stuff but with John Deere they’re going to have parts for it at every level and pretty much every manufacturer And it’s just so convenient. Like you were saying with an offbrand, you never know how long you might have to wait for a simple little part that keeps you from running.
Another advantage I see on the John Deere is resale price, if you use your tractor, you keep it clean you keep it nice you don’t abuse it and tear it up. You’re gonna get a really good resale price on it, I see an old Branson or an old Mahindra And those models change so much you never really know what you’re dealing with in an older used model and it can get confusing but you know if you put 60 grand into the John Deere you’re still gonna get a good chunk of that back in five years if you want to sell it, withan off name brand you never know and if you can’t get parts for broken stuff, you may lose most of that money but you always know John Deere or Kabota. You’re gonna get a pretty good resell value on it as well so that kind of offsets the higher price when you’re considering it all.
Thanks for the feedback. On that 4075 RI ask the Salesman at the national Farm machinery show if there was a difference between it and a 4066 other than the engine horsepower
He said no. Probably wasn’t aware.
@@RockhillfarmYT if you look, there’s a model called the northern something, and it’s basically like a heavy duty version of it and has a couple different features, I think there was something to do with the front axle having a truss or being beefed up somehow and I remember there were a couple other minor differences, but I don’t remember what they are now. I used to know what the difference on the model was, I think it’s something to do with the hydrostatic option, but I don’t remember that either lol.
My biggest problem on these John Deere is there a little too narrow from my taste, the four series is a little better but I really like the 3046 size of a tractor but they’re pretty tipsy and I’d probably have to put 2 inch spacers on there and whenever I use spacers, I always worry about Whether or not that’s gonna put too much stress on the axles and from what people say a little wire and a bit more stable without the spacers, but I don’t really know that much about them to where I could say myself. That’s why I like these videos, you and Andrew are good at explaining things, and giving us a pretty good view of it from a video
Like you said get what you pay for ran johndeere tractor since 1995 never had a problem have a new johndeere 4052r cab its my first cab tractor cab is well worth the money
DANG !!!! 60 K !!! that's more then a Kioti RX7320 !
I just love my kubota, cant beat it.
Thanks for sharing. I never never hear anybody complain about their Kubota tractor.
Cupholder? It's a Beer Holder...)
Will you look a deutz farh.
I don’t know if there’s a dealer around here
@@RockhillfarmYT if you would try to find one. We have two older deutz tractors and deutz hay equipment from the 90s but don’t know much about the newer ones
I say get them , whomever to give u one to use for a year , or if u r intent on still buying one get one that u think most people watching would get for the videos or get the tractor u love . My 3 cents of corse . I will never buy a jd I don't have the money or love of them like some do . But do whatever you want is my 2 cents. Great job with all u do .
The reason I don’t have a tractor yet as I was waiting to see if anyone would offer me a deal…
The Tractor shopping saga will be over in a couple weeks
@@RockhillfarmYT hopefully they do
I assume the comparable Kubota, you’re speaking of is the Grand l6060. That would be my choice if money were no option in that class of Tractor. And I am a John Deere guy through and through.
I got a quote on the Grand L 5460 I believe
I am far from an expert on how the Kabota model numbers work
jd has the best parts network there is period. All those electronic features are awesome when they work correctly but when they act up its a nightmare, My case mx 100c has the outer controls on the fenders for the 3 point hitch and the switch shorted out and dropped the 3 point while I was going down the road with a set of 4 bottom plows, not a good day and the town guys didnt like me much that day either, just some thing to think about because it does happen
John Deere does NOT support farmers right to repair. Ask Rich Rebuilds.
Tesla Bro is doing tractor stuff now?
That's business right to own exclusive copyright or trademark or patent or whatever law.
I still like fixing something simple.
Ask Louis Rosman
Never seen a good. John Deere.
the creep controls should be on the right side. the side you enter from. no shock on L door is BS
The controls are on the same side the door with the steps and shock is on…the left side.
Ask yourself this brock.. how many of them cheaper models do you see out in the fields working that's 40 or 50 years old..
You also said that the electric setup to move the tractor back and forth when attaching the 3 point makes extendable arms unnecessary. I disagree. When you are already bent over to attach the 3 point you would then have to straighten up your body to move the tractor and now bend down again. And if you still did not have it quite aligned stand up again. With extendable arms its not a problem. One time bend down and attach. 99 out of 100 times that's how it goes with my LS
That's what I was thinking. If you're not 100% squared up with the implement, the creep feature doesn't seem as useful as extendable arms. I don't run any real agricultural implements like balers or anything, but what I do have are all set up for a Quick Hitch (tiller, box blade, bush hog, flail mower, weight bracket). With that, I don't have to be 100% square on because I can usually give it a little shove that'll bring it into alignment.
I’ve got a 4066R…that feature is overrated. Yes, it is nice, but you’ve got to go through a whole list of steps from the seat to engage it. When I’m struggling to hook up an implement, a quick move with the telescopic link would be welcome.
LS has air recirculation in the cab. I can't see paying double what I did. If I hadn't bought an LS, I would of went Kubota
The interior has had some refreshes and they have corrected some of the poorly designed items, like the 3-point lever. Get out and use these tractors, test the lift and drive them for some time before you call this a review. I have a 4066R and a Kubota L6060 Grand and both have good features and bad. None of them are perfect and each should buy what they like the best.
Yeah, it’s not a review because I can’t do a review in a parking lot but it’s the best I can do and people seem to be enjoying the videos.
I also didn’t review the title. This is the experience of shopping for a tractor.
I do have three tractors being delivered to the house this week for reviews
@@RockhillfarmYT At 0:30 you say to fit in your review series. Then in the description "John Deere 4066R review. John Deere 4052R review" I don't mean to pick at you. I like your videos, but on these tractor "reviews" it feels fake. It feels like you watched other videos and are trying to regurgitate what they said. If you have opinions from sitting in there. Awesome. But you are beyond your opinion. Keep up the videos, but stay real and stay away from the clickbaity titles like this one. Just a fan's opinion.
I’m not bothered by your comment. I enjoyed the conversation
Did you see my announcement the other day that I have four different tractors being delivered to the farm as Demo models so that I can do real reviews running them?
I also have real seat time on most of the three series tractors, and both of the two series tractors and the one series on multiple different occasions.
I’ve only run the four series at shows
I don’t think the title is Clickbait at all. What does it say. I thought this was my dream tractor. I did think this was my dream Tractor. Now I’ve decided it’s a little bit too expensive
This series of videos is supposed to be saving someone time from going to the dealership and asking all these questions so I would call it a tractor buyers guide
I did put in the description because you have to type something there and buyers guide would never show up in search
I’ve compared almost every brand of this size Tractor now and included prices and the differences in the specs.
I’m compiling those for an overall Beyers guide from my point of view which I believe will save people a lot of time if they are shopping for one of these machines
Multiple people told me they went and looked at the same machine I’m talking about, but didn’t realize some of the things I talked about in the video
If I have any real skill that works for what I do, it is my ability to take in a lot of information and then summarize it in a way that is easily digestible.
Weren’t you talking about not upgrading your tractor to a bigger one like a month ago when you were upping your hydraulics?!
JD makes alot of tractors. If you want to do some work buy a JD 5E tractor. Basic but the 5E series will outwork the rest.
I grew up in the seventies driving John Deere tractors. I'm now disappointed in John Deere's quality and prices. I have nothing against any brand but with inflation nowadays I have to get the best product for the least amount of money and the Korean market fits that spot.
I don’t really like any New Tractors . Used older ones do the same work with out all the emissions and electrical issues .
I think John Deere was always a reputable name but with the way things are going in society today with inflation and such a lot of other companies are putting out a really quality product and for a lot less. “Objects in the rear view mirror are closer than they appear”
The first year for the 4066r was 2014.......so saying it has not been updated since 2000 is not correct.
I could never understand why someone would want a Hydro and that size of a tractor. They are more expensive than a gear model.
If you never do any real farm work or no big fields then I think the Hydro stat makes sense.
If you’re moving logs and spreading gravel and stuff like that, it’s a lot more convenient
I see the advantages to both
THE AFTERMARKET HAS ADAPTERS TO GO FROM JDQA TO SSCA. BE SAFE.
JD is the I phone of tractors its great but is it worth nearly twice as much as a good tractor from another brand not for me
I never understood why JD has to have proprietary implement attachments. Everyone else uses skid steer attachments, except JD. This is just bad business in my opinion.
I bought a new John Deere 4052r in 21, I like the tractor but have had more problems than I like in just 200 hours. They were all covered under warranty thankfully, but doesn’t give me high hopes for the future. I can’t believe how much they have gone up in price in just a couple years I paid 48k out the door for mine in August of 21.
Thanks for sharing
Still like the yanmar better.
John Deere prices you pay premium like apple prices.
Hei Brock, I feel like we have some diverging opinions. Your reason why the higher price for the John Deere is justified, partly based on arguments that are either pointless or should be expected from any brand.
The dealer network for JD is the biggest? I give a f*** about how many dealers they have - the important thing is to have a competent dealer close to my location. It neither helps to have a dealer close by if they're incompetent, not does it help to have a gazillion dealers in the country when the closest is a 5 hour drive away.
You always got parts right off the shelve with your JD dealer? Even fuel filters and similar items? Come on, I get fuel filters and similar stuff for my 39 year old backhoe off the shelve from the local "tool and parts" store. Besides the fact that it's unlikely that an oil chance or fuel filter change comes out of the blue, I had ONE part for my backhoe that I couldn't source from any store and had to get it custom made for me - and that was a somewhat special part of the front axle that should never break under normal circumstances (I suspect, the previous owner was having an incident with the machine - if a 30mm track rod is bent, there was definitely something happening). But we're talking about a machine that was probably produces less often during the entire production period run than a single JD tractor model is produced in a quarter of a year, and it's obsolete since some 30 years or so. Still I can get pretty much any part for it.
Sure, you might come across some Chinese brands or so where sourcing parts can be a real challenge. But any REASONABLE brand should not expose you to any challenge getting pretty much any part. Though a lot of it is also coming down to the dealer. If the dealer doesn't care and has no understanding for the customer needs, the best brand doesn't help.
Is a machine better because it's American engineered? Definitely not. It's better if it has some features that no one else has or lasts longer or excels in a particular job that is important to the particular user. Apart from that, "American engineered" only comforts your patriotism. For some people that might be an argument, and hey, you're free to have that being the feature that determines what tractor you buy. It's your money. And please don't get me wrong, I'm NOT saying, the tractor is WORSE because it's American engineered - I'm only saying that a certain flag on the hood doesn't guarantee that it's a better machine just because of the flag.
Granted, for compact tractors there's a certain chance that a JD is amongst the best you can get. Compact ones are rather unfamous in other parts of the world, hence it's difficult to compare. With full size tractors it's getting pretty obvious though - none of the big names is really having an edge over the competition and all of the "my tractor is better" claims are just bullshit. In some features a JD is best, in others it's a New Holland, in others it's a Fendt, in others it's a Case, or Claas, or Valtra, or JCB... Ok, maybe not JCB, my bad!
Granted, that option to creep the tractor from the outside to hook up an implement is definitely a slick feature and might be worth something for some people. But I think, it's rather uncommon in the world of full size tractors, despite implements being changed there on a frequent basis.
So to me it looks like a feature that is very convenient if you don't have a lot of experience, and of course can help for the intermedieate level. But the more professional the application, the less crucial it gets. If it's worth the money is up to the buyer, as always.
All in all, not saying it's a bad tractor, but one should really be careful with arguments. Not everything that is quickly said remains a valid argument when thinking about it.
I don’t see where we have diverging opinions.
I’m not ranking this John Deere tractor in my top 5. I would not buy it
I did a poll asking viewers which Tractor I should get and 30% of people said the John Deere which was a close second to the Kubota. I wouldn’t pick the Kabota either.
I repeated the justifications that other people gave and then I said, I don’t think it’s worth what they’re asking
I said an oil filter for my 1941 John Deere tractor. I’ve had a lot of obscure parts for the tractor and skid steer and mower and those were all in stock too.
I list the positive points about the brand, but that doesn’t mean I would buy it
I think you could make a case that it is worth paying an extra $5000 for a John Deere. You cannot make the case it’s worth paying an extra $20,000.
@@RockhillfarmYT Well, then I obviously wasn't able to catch the essence. It's already 2:30am here, so I blame it on that 😀
I noticed that you mentioned the significant price difference, and I definitely agree that 20k extra is a lot of money unless there is a very very good reason to spend it. I myself wouldn't be able to find such a reason, but maybe that's only me.
But I had a bit the feeling that you would try to convey the message that JD would have some perks that make it much more valuable than others, despite not really being perks as such but things I would take for granted for almost every brand. And that's why I thought, we would be having different opinions, but that's now also cleared out.
But everyone can buy whatever they want. A lot of it is personal preference anyway and there is no ultimate solution to everything.
Last but not least, your content is pretty informative, please keep it coming 🙂
I’ve got a 2006 New Holland Tc40Da which is made of plastic, and the fenders have cracks in them.
Probably will have to fabricate new metal fenders for it eventually.
Personally I wouldn’t buy a plastic “fantastic” tractor after my experience.
Metal is king.
Age isn’t nice on plastic.
I have a 01 Tc 45d which has fiberglass "Sheetmetal" not a crack in it . If you go on Tractor By Net and do a search the DA's were cracking a few years after they came out. Lots of people posted fixes for the cracking issue . Some were solved with a plastic welder and adding rubber isolation blocks. If interested I can help with research I've researched that model extensively.🍻
@@Spitter-ud8jd I would definitely like some help. Appreciate any research you’ve got! 🤠
The tractor has close to 1,000 hours and it’s perfect other than the plastic fenders.
I’m also trying to figure out how to get SSQA and third function.
Thanks
@@Brette_Caldwell There are so many good posts on those subjects that I can't list. For fender repair Google Tc 40 DA cracked fenders and read the TBN posts. Do the same for SSQA and 3rd function, ATI makes a very well-constructed adapter and WR Long makes the most popular 3rd function kit. 🍻
@@Spitter-ud8jd thank you very much! I’ll check into it.
Had to make another comment after finishing your video lol why even shop if your just gonna pick john deere lol from what i cann tell your a sucker for the deere ant anything wrong with that if you have the bank roll for it when we all know now adays they are all good tractors .
Spoiler alert, I’m not buying another John Deere tractor. This tractor isn’t in my top 3
Thanks for watching
Never buy a John Deere, unless you like to work on tractors
Little busy my sow has been having babies 2 dead 5 alive so far
That’s a rough morning. Good luck with it.
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Price is ridiculous. Hobby farmers can’t afford JD
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My opinion I have mahindra 3650 ls 368 I m 100% a john deere guy but old iron only my opinion over priced I'd buy mahindra over and over again ..
Resale value
If you can not see the bucket from the cab it is not worth buying. This tractor has way to many things that can damaged from normal use,this tractor is best on mancured farms.
You might be a John Deere guy but you're not made of money. I see a non-green tractor winning this competition.
John Deere yuck
Check out a RURAL KING tractor.