I have owned the 2.7(1st gen) and the 5.0(3rd gen) and really liked both engines. Unfortunately, both engines now have wet belt driven oil pumps, and I refuse to own either one because of that. That setup is garbage, and Ford didn't learn a thing from the 1.0 liter Ecoboost wet belt disaster. Sad.
@@buzzzzzy8924 Whatever it is, it doesn't last as long as the rest of the engine. Well, I guess it does since most people keep driving when it breaks but you know what I mean.
I'll stick with the 5.0 Coyote. The direct injection in the eco boost will gum up the backs and stems of the valves in do time causing misfires among other things. Been through this with my Focus RS turbo.
From what I've seen about the dual injection is the port injectors only operate during idle and low speed. I do agree it may help some, but it's still a problem in the long term as you acure mileage. If I went Ecoboost I'd install a catch can on the PVC side to catch blow by.
The 5.0 V8 makes up for lack of torque if option 3.73 rear differential with towing package, I tow 6,000 lb trailer through the mountains with ease & RPM’s staying below 4,000 with transmission not hunting for gears! Excellent combination for towing & hauling, I still get 20 mpg on highway when not towing!
3.5 is the best for every day working truck, tows more and has ALOT more power. Just as reliable now with the fixed on the 21+. 5.0 is only good if you boost it , I have both
I lease my trucks so Ive had a few to compare. currently have the 2024 XLT 5.0. Ive had many 1500 Rams with 5.7, a couple F150s with the 5.4-worst engine ever!!! a 2014' 5.0, 2022 2.7, 2023 Tacoma -most over rated truck, I was very dissapointed. I finally decided to buy a truck and stop leasing. after a lot of research, Ram was out since they dropped the Hemi V8-dumb move. I had nothing but good things about the four I leased. but never went beyond 80k miles. I talked to a lot of guys with the 3.5 they all loved it saying how great it towed and the power would not leave you missing the V8. but 8/10 had mechanical issues. So I chose the 5.0 V8 mid level XLT 3.3 rear gear as I do lot of hwy travel. 5k miles now avg 17.5-18 mpg. I love the engine trans mode options. standard is fine I use eco on the hwy. sport mode is the most fun, it would smoke my 5.7s in this mode, love the throttle response. ride is smooth and fairly quiet tons of space inside. You can turn off cylinder deactivation with a button, the stereo sounds great. Ford has upped their interior and storage space. I would still give the Rams the edge in this dept. based on the thought of keeping this for nxt ten yrs. I only tow snowmbiles and a tractor occasionally. The 5.0 seems to be right choice for me.
I went through the decision just like that. Got the Coyote, 3.31 gears in a Lariat new in 2019 in the Silver Spruce. Nice. 28,600 miles on it now. No problems but some oil use, I know when to add it. Avoided cylinder deactivation because it was 5 years ago. Interior is beautiful. It's all around great whatever I'm doing. It's my only vehicle, and I bought it cash 2 years before retiring, and pre-inflation. The most it has towed so far was a U-Haul 1,000 miles and used no oil that time. And it carried motorcycles for my son. Handy for many things including a big dog, and a beauty to drive. She will get 20 to 21 mpg US highway if everything is ideal. 16 - 17 mpg in a normal mix of driving. Same as most of my old cars got way back in the 80s, but there's no comparison to what this truck is.
2.7 all day long. Built like a diesel good fuel economy duel port injection and if you tune that 2.7 it’s just the perfect all around motor. If I wanted to tow heavy everyday I would buy a diesel.
@russrtspooling7702 The 2.7 is a good engine but ive seen less issues with the 5.0. Most would agree the coyote is the simplest, most reliable f150 engine available. That said, any engine from any manufacturer is subject to trouble. All it takes is one thing to go wrong for trouble, but for reliability everything has to go right.
@ oil consumption is a major issue with the 5.0 and that is very common also cam phasers seem to have issues… the only real issue with the 2.7 is the 10spd and people complain about the rubber belt for the oil pump that doesn’t fail just people like to complain about it. It’s basically Kevlar
@russrtspooling7702 The oil consumption was 2018 to 2020 and has been fixed. The best years of the f150 were 2015-2017 and been getting overly complicated since.
I have a 3rd Gen Coyote, and I love it. I like it for not having a wet belt or cylinder deactivation. The stop&start hasn't kicked in for months because some unknown thing puts a slow drain on the battery, keeping it deactivated. A mystery. I can live with adding oil. On pure highway driving, even towing a light trailer, it uses little to no oil. I couldn't ask for better fuel economy for what it is, which being retired and keeping the miles down - it wouldn't be a factor for me even if it was poor. It's what I'm used to. I love driving with that engine. I swear the quality was better before Covid, as I only had a couple of recalls for minor things that weren't problems and were not inconvenient to get done. My only worry is electronic gremlins cropping up as she ages.
1962 GM put the first turbo on a small displacement gas engine Chevy Corvair Monza, that was 62 years ago and people are still saying New Technology 😏, I have a 2.7 Ecoboost tows my 5k camper just fine and yesterday drove it Abington Virginia and back and got a indicated 25.8 mpg got home filled it up pulled out the calculator and really got 24.2 still not bad for a full size 4wd 6.5 bed with plenty of get up and go. The way I went down the hugest speed limit was 65 and being the police state of Virginia I set cruise on what ever the indicated speed was.
My current truck is the first with a V6 and am very happy wth it so far. Previously, my trucks have had the 460, 351, 4.6, 5.4 engines but the king was the 6.7 diesel. The 3.5 has the tow package though we are currently looking for a smaller replacement for the large 5th wheels we have had
Yeah you need to do a bit more research. The 5.0 burns less fuel under a load than the Ecoboost engines. High teens while towing? No. Maybe 10-12 if towing an 8000# box trailer. The 3.5 will get around 9-10 mpg with the same trailer. Remember: BOOST equals LOTS OF GAS burning! And towing will have the engine in the boost all the time.
This is true but the ecoboost tows that 8,000 lbs box trailer with a lot more ease, don’t really feel like you have the amount of weight compared to the 5.0
@ yes it pulls it much better with the low end torque, but when it comes to maintaining downhill speed via engine braking, it lacks the displacement. It also burns less gas while towing. But like I said, the Ecoboost pulls like a mule!
@@davidgardner-r8l tf are you talking about? How about instead of grandstanding, why don’t YOU put your money where your mouth is and explain why YOU think what I’m saying is false information.
@@davidgardner-r8l what are you talking about? How about instead of grandstanding, you actually put your money where your mouth is and do the research yourself to prove that what I’m saying is false. Don’t even bother bragging about your “39 years as a Ford tech”. That doesn’t mean anything, you’re just another guy on the internet. For all I know, you were either never a tech at all, or, all you did was probably brakes and tires. So, you made the argument, now YOU gotta back it up and show me the evidence that the 3.5 ecoboost is more efficient under a heavy load than the 5.0.
Here's the little thing you didn't research. You gotta ask yourself with a dual overhead cam va like the 5.0 Coyote, and it having cylinder deactivation. Are you going to have a lifter problem, or does that engine have lifters?
You forgot about the best engine IMO, the Powerboost hybrid. More power and torque along with the best overall fuel economy. I average mid to upper 20s mpg around town or on the highway when not pulling a trailer.
Your info on the 2.7 is not quite correct: it makes 400 tq at 2750 rpm, not 3000 rpm as stated in video. That little engine is a monster in low to mid range rpm
Towing with a turbo gas engine is the worst. I got 14mpg on a 2.0 ecoboost Maverick with an empty trailer driving around 65mph. Imagine how bad an f150 would be with the ecoboost.
I've had trucks with the 3.5L EcoBoost and the 5.0L engine. In reality, the fuel economy on the EcoBoost isn't any better and is sometimes worse. Its fine until you get those turbos spooled up and your fuel economy tanks. Not that I give a shit about that in a truck.
If turbos are so great, why do they have so many problems? Everyone I know with an F150 Ecoboost has had to replace the turbos by 140k miles. That is a $4000 bill and that negates any fuel savings you will ever see. I know guys with the 5.0 Coyote that have over 300,000 miles and never needed anything but routine maintenance. I had a 2007 5.4 F150 that now has over 300k miles and no engine problems. I have 120k miles on my 2016 F150 with the 5.0 and it has been flawless so far. I would never consider an Ecoboost motor. Way too many problems.
The GM trucks have push rod engines. The lifters in these engines are a poor design and frequently fail. The Ford V8 is an over head cam engine that doesn’t use the same type of lifters. I haven’t found any significant reliability issue online with this generation of Coyote. It’s by far the best choice of V8 half ton pickup trucks on the market. Btw, Ram has lifter and cam issues on the hemi even though it’s no longer offered. If you’re looking at a used one and the engine ticks, turn and run away!😂
@@Horvath0819 I have a 2018 3.5L I bought new in 2019 , only issue I've had were the cam phasers at around 75k miles, (got replaced under powertrain warranty) truck currently has 158k Miles. have not had any major issues with it, of course at around 158k miles I'm now getting the same symptoms ticking at start up, slight shutter at stop light, also about to need new set of tires, front wheel bearing just started making noise, etc etc..(trade in is around 8 to 9k) going to just sell it to a friend for $8k. been looking at used 21+ V8 Models, thinking i may just stick with the 3.5L, 100% will be going Ford, best Interior hands down, Reliability same, I was always a Chevy guy growing up started driving this Ford and i'm a fan. I'm growing fond of Fords...
5.0 All the way nothing like a V8 and V8 will be extremely collectible so V8 win in every way those ecoboost sound horrible specially with an exhaust 👎
Ford says they have corrected the ten speed issues since they first came out. GM took Ford's ten speed transmission and turned it into junk. They put in a much weaker torque converter to save weight. Those weak torque converters are blowing apart by 60k miles. You know how you fix a GM ten speed? You replace it with a Ford ten speed. I got that directly from a GM mechanic.
nephew has owned 3 Fords since 2004, 2 new, 1 used new 2004 F150 would randomly shutdown, stranded multiple times, dealer had it for several months out of the 14 months he had it, they could never find the issue, sued Ford under lemon law. 2015 f150 ecoboost, multiple cam phaser jobs, (3Xs) finally died from rod knock at 107,000 miles. 2021 F350 7.3 godzilla new,, dead at 41,000 because of cam/lifter, so much metal particles in filter it ran with reduced oil pressure and ruined the crankshaft 2nd lawsuit with ford under lemon law, Fords are junk
So, it sounds like your son was using cheap oil. That is what happens if you don't use full synthetic oil in those motors. The Motorcraft synthetic blend oil is really bad oil. I learned that the hard way. My 2007 F150 with the 5.4 started running rough at 94k miles. The dealer said I needed a new engine for $8500. I did a little research, flushed the engine a couple times with Napa and BG engine flush, went to high mileage full synthetic oil, and never had another problem. That truck now has over 300k miles and the engine is going strong. What happens is the cheap Motorcraft synthetic blend oil gums everything up inside the engine. Oil passages get plugged up and that throws the phasers off. Your son just needed a good engine flush and full synthetic oil.
@@herbb8547 i know he was using mobil 1 on the 2021 F350, (5,000 mile oil changes) The ecoboost, i'm not sure what the nephew was using. My cousin and her husband own a big rig and diesel truck repair facility and my nephew and i both have our vehicles serviced there, according to them, my nephew's 7.3 is the 3rd one that they had heard of going bad from what other shops had told them, so its a common issue, more than Ford wants to admit
@destroytheilluminati770 I had a 2001 Chevy Z71 that was nothing but trouble from the day I brought it home brand new. One problem after another. I talked to GM about it. They claimed it was all my fault for lack of maintenance. I never even got to the third oil change with it. It was so bad that I kept my mountain bike in the back because I was tired of walking all the time. GM actually had the audacity to tell me that they had my money. They said that the warranty only covered up to $10,000 of repairs and I was past my limit. The Minnesota lemon law didn't apply because they had fixed all the problems so far. So, at just 8000 miles, I traded it in on a new 2001 F150. That is all I have driven ever since. 120k miles on the 2001 F150, 242k miles on a 2007 F150, and now 120k miles on my 2016 F150 and still not a single major repair. But I only drive gas powered V8s.
I have owned the 2.7(1st gen) and the 5.0(3rd gen) and really liked both engines. Unfortunately, both engines now have wet belt driven oil pumps, and I refuse to own either one because of that. That setup is garbage, and Ford didn't learn a thing from the 1.0 liter Ecoboost wet belt disaster. Sad.
Isn’t it a kevlar belt (bulletproof)?
Ashame crap idea.
@@buzzzzzy8924 Whatever it is, it doesn't last as long as the rest of the engine. Well, I guess it does since most people keep driving when it breaks but you know what I mean.
The 1st gen 2.7 doesn't have a belt its a chain
@@chownzi2461 I know
I'll stick with the 5.0 Coyote. The direct injection in the eco boost will gum up the backs and stems of the valves in do time causing misfires among other things. Been through this with my Focus RS turbo.
That depends on your year of 5.0 in the f150. 2018+ 5.0's have dual injection, both port and direct.
The newer 5.0 and ecoboost have duel fuel injection. Port and direct injection
From what I've seen about the dual injection is the port injectors only operate during idle and low speed. I do agree it may help some, but it's still a problem in the long term as you acure mileage. If I went Ecoboost I'd install a catch can on the PVC side to catch blow by.
The 5.0 V8 makes up for lack of torque if option 3.73 rear differential with towing package, I tow 6,000 lb trailer through the mountains with ease & RPM’s staying below 4,000 with transmission not hunting for gears!
Excellent combination for towing & hauling, I still get 20 mpg on highway when not towing!
@@skeeter012 I’m not sure it’s needed with the dual injection, but ai installed a catch can on my new 5.0.
3.5 is the best for every day working truck, tows more and has ALOT more power. Just as reliable now with the fixed on the 21+. 5.0 is only good if you boost it , I have both
5.0 all the way, unless you want to be changing out turbos, oil lines etc. A std. non- turbo v6 if you not towing or in a big hurry!😊
I lease my trucks so Ive had a few to compare. currently have the 2024 XLT 5.0. Ive had many 1500 Rams with 5.7, a couple F150s with the 5.4-worst engine ever!!! a 2014' 5.0, 2022 2.7, 2023 Tacoma -most over rated truck, I was very dissapointed. I finally decided to buy a truck and stop leasing. after a lot of research, Ram was out since they dropped the Hemi V8-dumb move. I had nothing but good things about the four I leased. but never went beyond 80k miles. I talked to a lot of guys with the 3.5 they all loved it saying how great it towed and the power would not leave you missing the V8. but 8/10 had mechanical issues.
So I chose the 5.0 V8 mid level XLT 3.3 rear gear as I do lot of hwy travel. 5k miles now avg 17.5-18 mpg. I love the engine trans mode options. standard is fine I use eco on the hwy. sport mode is the most fun, it would smoke my 5.7s in this mode, love the throttle response. ride is smooth and fairly quiet tons of space inside. You can turn off cylinder deactivation with a button, the stereo sounds great. Ford has upped their interior and storage space. I would still give the Rams the edge in this dept. based on the thought of keeping this for nxt ten yrs. I only tow snowmbiles and a tractor occasionally. The 5.0 seems to be right choice for me.
I went through the decision just like that. Got the Coyote, 3.31 gears in a Lariat new in 2019 in the Silver Spruce. Nice. 28,600 miles on it now. No problems but some oil use, I know when to add it. Avoided cylinder deactivation because it was 5 years ago. Interior is beautiful. It's all around great whatever I'm doing. It's my only vehicle, and I bought it cash 2 years before retiring, and pre-inflation. The most it has towed so far was a U-Haul 1,000 miles and used no oil that time. And it carried motorcycles for my son. Handy for many things including a big dog, and a beauty to drive. She will get 20 to 21 mpg US highway if everything is ideal. 16 - 17 mpg in a normal mix of driving. Same as most of my old cars got way back in the 80s, but there's no comparison to what this truck is.
2.7 all day long. Built like a diesel good fuel economy duel port injection and if you tune that 2.7 it’s just the perfect all around motor. If I wanted to tow heavy everyday I would buy a diesel.
Built like a diesel means overly complicated and likely unreliable these days. Non turbo gas engine is as good as it gets these days.
@ lol the 2.7 is the most reliable motor in the f150 right now
@russrtspooling7702 The 2.7 is a good engine but ive seen less issues with the 5.0. Most would agree the coyote is the simplest, most reliable f150 engine available. That said, any engine from any manufacturer is subject to trouble. All it takes is one thing to go wrong for trouble, but for reliability everything has to go right.
@ oil consumption is a major issue with the 5.0 and that is very common also cam phasers seem to have issues… the only real issue with the 2.7 is the 10spd and people complain about the rubber belt for the oil pump that doesn’t fail just people like to complain about it. It’s basically Kevlar
@russrtspooling7702 The oil consumption was 2018 to 2020 and has been fixed. The best years of the f150 were 2015-2017 and been getting overly complicated since.
Just bought the 2.7L as my commuter truck.
I have a 3rd Gen Coyote, and I love it. I like it for not having a wet belt or cylinder deactivation. The stop&start hasn't kicked in for months because some unknown thing puts a slow drain on the battery, keeping it deactivated. A mystery. I can live with adding oil. On pure highway driving, even towing a light trailer, it uses little to no oil. I couldn't ask for better fuel economy for what it is, which being retired and keeping the miles down - it wouldn't be a factor for me even if it was poor. It's what I'm used to. I love driving with that engine. I swear the quality was better before Covid, as I only had a couple of recalls for minor things that weren't problems and were not inconvenient to get done. My only worry is electronic gremlins cropping up as she ages.
1962 GM put the first turbo on a small displacement gas engine Chevy Corvair Monza, that was 62 years ago and people are still saying New Technology 😏, I have a 2.7 Ecoboost tows my 5k camper just fine and yesterday drove it Abington Virginia and back and got a indicated 25.8 mpg got home filled it up pulled out the calculator and really got 24.2 still not bad for a full size 4wd 6.5 bed with plenty of get up and go. The way I went down the hugest speed limit was 65 and being the police state of Virginia I set cruise on what ever the indicated speed was.
My current truck is the first with a V6 and am very happy wth it so far. Previously, my trucks have had the 460, 351, 4.6, 5.4 engines but the king was the 6.7 diesel. The 3.5 has the tow package though we are currently looking for a smaller replacement for the large 5th wheels we have had
RAM 5.7 Hemi has major problems with cylinder deactivation too
Huh? Have a ‘07 Ram 5.7 with MDS (cylinder deactivation). It has problems, but MDS isn’t one of them.
I have a 2015 with 157 k and it run great still!
The 5.0 is better on fuel towing than the ecoboost engines.They have a lot more pulling power than the 5.0 towing but devour fuel doing it.
Only the 3.5 has more trq. The 2.7 has 75hp less and 10trqs less then the 5.0
true
Have had 4 ,3.5 eco beast. Never any engine problems and 18mpg. Easily
Glad to hear it...how many miles did you put on them?
ill stick with 2.7 less problems and plenty of power
Keep the v8 in sport mode it won’t deactivate cylinders
Yeah you need to do a bit more research. The 5.0 burns less fuel under a load than the Ecoboost engines. High teens while towing? No. Maybe 10-12 if towing an 8000# box trailer. The 3.5 will get around 9-10 mpg with the same trailer. Remember: BOOST equals LOTS OF GAS burning! And towing will have the engine in the boost all the time.
This is true but the ecoboost tows that 8,000 lbs box trailer with a lot more ease, don’t really feel like you have the amount of weight compared to the 5.0
@ yes it pulls it much better with the low end torque, but when it comes to maintaining downhill speed via engine braking, it lacks the displacement. It also burns less gas while towing. But like I said, the Ecoboost pulls like a mule!
stop giving out false info.do your research
@@davidgardner-r8l tf are you talking about? How about instead of grandstanding, why don’t YOU put your money where your mouth is and explain why YOU think what I’m saying is false information.
@@davidgardner-r8l what are you talking about? How about instead of grandstanding, you actually put your money where your mouth is and do the research yourself to prove that what I’m saying is false. Don’t even bother bragging about your “39 years as a Ford tech”. That doesn’t mean anything, you’re just another guy on the internet. For all I know, you were either never a tech at all, or, all you did was probably brakes and tires.
So, you made the argument, now YOU gotta back it up and show me the evidence that the 3.5 ecoboost is more efficient under a heavy load than the 5.0.
i been ford tech for 39 years and 2.7 has less problems..
Thanks for sharing
Here's the little thing you didn't research. You gotta ask yourself with a dual overhead cam va like the 5.0 Coyote, and it having cylinder deactivation. Are you going to have a lifter problem, or does that engine have lifters?
You forgot about the best engine IMO, the Powerboost hybrid. More power and torque along with the best overall fuel economy. I average mid to upper 20s mpg around town or on the highway when not pulling a trailer.
A lot of people don't like the hybrid because you can hear and feel it turning on and off
I like my 2.7, it has been reliable and dependable.
I'm very happy with my 3.5 powered F150 after owning all 460/6.8/6.7 powered F250/350s previously. And yes, the phasers were replaced under warranty.
3.5 turbo is awesome
Your info on the 2.7 is not quite correct: it makes 400 tq at 2750 rpm, not 3000 rpm as stated in video. That little engine is a monster in low to mid range rpm
I believe you but I am reading 3,000
Towing with a turbo gas engine is the worst. I got 14mpg on a 2.0 ecoboost Maverick with an empty trailer driving around 65mph. Imagine how bad an f150 would be with the ecoboost.
I've had trucks with the 3.5L EcoBoost and the 5.0L engine. In reality, the fuel economy on the EcoBoost isn't any better and is sometimes worse. Its fine until you get those turbos spooled up and your fuel economy tanks. Not that I give a shit about that in a truck.
The 5.0 only
Any truck is better off with a naturally aspirated, (non-turbo) engine from ANY perspective!! Ask anyone who knows!!
Ecoborst and turbo will cost it you keep for long you will high cost repairs the way the engine is designed labor repairs will blow your mind
Love my 3.5 best hands down. 234xxx on it and still going strong. AMSOIL ❤
Turbochargers have been around for a long time. The new technology is unsurpassed. Turbocharged engines are the future, promise you
If turbos are so great, why do they have so many problems? Everyone I know with an F150 Ecoboost has had to replace the turbos by 140k miles. That is a $4000 bill and that negates any fuel savings you will ever see. I know guys with the 5.0 Coyote that have over 300,000 miles and never needed anything but routine maintenance. I had a 2007 5.4 F150 that now has over 300k miles and no engine problems. I have 120k miles on my 2016 F150 with the 5.0 and it has been flawless so far. I would never consider an Ecoboost motor. Way too many problems.
I have 6.2 5.0 and 3.5 Ecoboost l can tell the Ecoboost has more torque and way more Quick
The GM trucks have push rod engines. The lifters in these engines are a poor design and frequently fail. The Ford V8 is an over head cam engine that doesn’t use the same type of lifters. I haven’t found any significant reliability issue online with this generation of Coyote. It’s by far the best choice of V8 half ton pickup trucks on the market. Btw, Ram has lifter and cam issues on the hemi even though it’s no longer offered. If you’re looking at a used one and the engine ticks, turn and run away!😂
3.5economist just fix the phashers
They fixed them on the 21+ models
@@Horvath0819 I have a 2018 3.5L I bought new in 2019 , only issue I've had were the cam phasers at around 75k miles, (got replaced under powertrain warranty) truck currently has 158k Miles. have not had any major issues with it, of course at around 158k miles I'm now getting the same symptoms ticking at start up, slight shutter at stop light, also about to need new set of tires, front wheel bearing just started making noise, etc etc..(trade in is around 8 to 9k) going to just sell it to a friend for $8k. been looking at used 21+ V8 Models, thinking i may just stick with the 3.5L, 100% will be going Ford, best Interior hands down, Reliability same, I was always a Chevy guy growing up started driving this Ford and i'm a fan. I'm growing fond of Fords...
@@got2havehouse595 I picked up a ‘21 Lariat with the 3.5L back in August. Liking the truck a lot so far
@@got2havehouse59521+ 3.5 ecoboost is a solid engine.
@@got2havehouse595 the turbos still work good? That’s my main concern with the 3.5 vs 5.0
Turbos will bite you in the butt one day soon
5.0 All the way nothing like a V8 and V8 will be extremely collectible so V8 win in every way those ecoboost sound horrible specially with an exhaust 👎
If you can't get one without a turbo i would get another brand
Dude that commented first what happens when that goes out friend has a Ford fusion with that 1.0
Talk about the Garbage transmission in those vehicles the 10 speed 10R80. Ford screwed their customer with that one.
Ford says they have corrected the ten speed issues since they first came out. GM took Ford's ten speed transmission and turned it into junk. They put in a much weaker torque converter to save weight. Those weak torque converters are blowing apart by 60k miles. You know how you fix a GM ten speed? You replace it with a Ford ten speed. I got that directly from a GM mechanic.
nephew has owned 3 Fords since 2004, 2 new, 1 used new 2004 F150 would randomly shutdown, stranded multiple times, dealer had it for several months out of the 14 months he had it, they could never find the issue, sued Ford under lemon law. 2015 f150 ecoboost, multiple cam phaser jobs, (3Xs) finally died from rod knock at 107,000 miles. 2021 F350 7.3 godzilla new,, dead at 41,000 because of cam/lifter, so much metal particles in filter it ran with reduced oil pressure and ruined the crankshaft 2nd lawsuit with ford under lemon law, Fords are junk
So, it sounds like your son was using cheap oil. That is what happens if you don't use full synthetic oil in those motors. The Motorcraft synthetic blend oil is really bad oil. I learned that the hard way. My 2007 F150 with the 5.4 started running rough at 94k miles. The dealer said I needed a new engine for $8500. I did a little research, flushed the engine a couple times with Napa and BG engine flush, went to high mileage full synthetic oil, and never had another problem. That truck now has over 300k miles and the engine is going strong. What happens is the cheap Motorcraft synthetic blend oil gums everything up inside the engine. Oil passages get plugged up and that throws the phasers off. Your son just needed a good engine flush and full synthetic oil.
@@herbb8547 i know he was using mobil 1 on the 2021 F350, (5,000 mile oil changes) The ecoboost, i'm not sure what the nephew was using. My cousin and her husband own a big rig and diesel truck repair facility and my nephew and i both have our vehicles serviced there, according to them, my nephew's 7.3 is the 3rd one that they had heard of going bad from what other shops had told them, so its a common issue, more than Ford wants to admit
@destroytheilluminati770 I had a 2001 Chevy Z71 that was nothing but trouble from the day I brought it home brand new. One problem after another. I talked to GM about it. They claimed it was all my fault for lack of maintenance. I never even got to the third oil change with it. It was so bad that I kept my mountain bike in the back because I was tired of walking all the time. GM actually had the audacity to tell me that they had my money. They said that the warranty only covered up to $10,000 of repairs and I was past my limit. The Minnesota lemon law didn't apply because they had fixed all the problems so far. So, at just 8000 miles, I traded it in on a new 2001 F150. That is all I have driven ever since. 120k miles on the 2001 F150, 242k miles on a 2007 F150, and now 120k miles on my 2016 F150 and still not a single major repair. But I only drive gas powered V8s.
Those 10 speed transmissions are junk so is that afm on there engines more junk
Don't buy Ford!!!
These GOV engines (v6 turbos) SUCK
Avoid all ford engines there all junk
😂 me with my 2011 f150 5.0 at 277k miles, and my 2024 powerboost will probably last me a long time as well.