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Who gives a shit what the world thinks its super nice, its unique to your taste and looks amazing
Good for you man
54k no warranty or 62k plus faster with warranty hahhahahahah
Honestly which one is better to own for daily use and not for racing like I want want the hellcat and I do like the scat pack
@@bryanblanton8129 Go Scat pack for daily driving. Thanks!
I have a brand new 2018 Charger Hellcat and I absolutely love it. Everyone who I meet with this car is amazed by it. Worth every penny.
Right on.
Ral Hellcat...I just brought me a brand new hellcat 2018 last month. And I love it anywhere I go people always giving me compliments on my hellcat
You get that wow factor with a hellcat, pretty soon a new saying will go around “just a scatpack” people always say the word “just” like it makes it a civic or something because its not a 700 hp hellcat lol
I literally just got my hellcat Charger 2018 three weeks ago. I am in love. This car is a direct reflection of me.
Hold on.... am I reading this right? You guys all got hellcats for compliments from strangers? Hahaha smh..
Don't forget cheaper insurance for the boosted scatpack!
And your not a target for highway patrol
Nick Dodenc dunno about that😂
Nick Dodenc they look the same 💀
It is cheaper on the insurance by alot
Keali'i Naihe how much cheaper?
Nice charger! I own a 2016 SRT 329, I think it’s has the best of both worlds especially with the dynamic suspension and 6 piston brembos!
Flakeo Totally agree . Srt392 challenger owner. Best of both worlds and a rare piece of art today. You wont find a lot of srt392 on roads.
@@whatsinanamefocusonthefame9836 no sir you won’t, I want one so bad 😂. A 2016 SRT costs more than a 2018-19 scat
@@RedZone.97 I just found a plum crazy srt 392 and bought it instantly best car iv ever had
@@goldenway8178 i just got 1 yesterday.
Dodge Is Killin' The Performance Game Right Now Especially With The New Red Eye Challenger & Charger Dodge Is Doing Things With Stock Cars That Other Manufacturers Won't Even Attempt To Do
spoke too soon
Dodge is killing all the fools wallets. People buying dam hellcats just to have 700 plus horsepower. Dodge still ain't reliable for shit but to overheat or cam issues. 5.0 coyote me anyday
King Dj-Slim that 5.0 coyote got spanked by the yellow cat
@@gucci2x376 that one did but mines didnt. Lol. Mines got 826 horses stage 3 whipple. I dont advertise it because no one needs to know its mine
Gucci 2x mod for mod a 5.0 would win versus a scat. Don’t even get me started on boost. 5.0s are Americans race cars.
Hey man it's all about what you like and all about what you want that makes you happy. Who cares what anybody else says
Edwin Carwile facts
Nope. Without upgrading the internals, you are rolling the dice. Give me a Hellcat with a warranty.
Hammer you're right I agree with you it's better 2 have a Hellcat with a warranty a Hellcat still a Hellcat a Scat Pack is just a Scat Pack
Yup. Like I said if you are happy with 707hp and don't want any more then the hellcat is great. That's what it's good for. But if you are going to mod both I think the Scatpack has the edge.
Too many people don't understand the difference in engine engineering. The Hellcat is fully forged. Forged crank, rods and pistons, the Apache 6.4 using regular pistons, so throwing boost at weak pistons is just waiting for a broken block. Seen too many examples of people not doing research.
Hqen2000 how does the Scat have an edge?? If you spend the 10k on a hellcat you put into that Scat it would be a monster
Well that doesn't make sense. You can mod the hellcat to make a good amount more power and you have a built bottom end. In the scat pack it's a time bomb with boost.
Loving your videos thus far! The biggest point people seem to be able to say about the hellcat is the warranty, so if you intend to mod and void that anyway, starting at a lower price point seems enticing. Plus that sleeper factor for when people try to race you is awesome!
Exactly
Hey man screw all the negativity here. To each his own. I love the car and hope you have good luck with it !
+1 on the adaptive cruise control. As a daily driver that would be really hard to get away from.
This niqqa looks depress when he says the hell cat faster 🤣🤣🤣 still fwu tho
I think another consideration you have to look at is that it is pretty hard for most people to come up with $12k in cash. It is easier for most people to finance a car that already has the power.
or just get a 12k loan lol easier to get than financing a 80k car
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As a ScatPack owner, I am obviously partial to your choice. The total cost of ownership is lower. And lets face it, most cars do not break in the warranty period. Usually right after. So I agree with you, You do what you feel is the right choice, and what works for your family.
Btw yes you can get deals on a hellcat, I got mine with 1200 miles for 44k. I personally think that's a better deal
What color? I've seen a few in that range. Very tempting.
@@christopherhendricks4369 pearl white my dude
@@leoneloate4320 love almost all the colors they have. The Hellcat was the most fun I've ever had on 4 wheels.
Where?!?!?!!!
@@Candyman757 well I'm driving it now lol, but at Homosasa Florida
Its def worth it. 20K diff, you can do all the shit you want on ur scat to make it similar to a hellcat and you'll still have money left.
M K plus you save a good dime on insurance and gas
BoneLess Slime uhhhh gas wise you’d save a bit more on a hellcat bud. Hellcat is a 6.2 liter, Scat Pack is a 6.4 . I mean they’re both big engines but you’d save just a little bit more on a kitty.
Umm no the hellcat gets much worse mpg stock for stock
@@bonelessslime7893 Insurance is cheap, had a 16 Cat and paid $143 full coverage 50k/100k/50k.
JimmieNapalm What state are you in? Because that’s just liability price for a 2001 Camry where i live 😂
I like a Hellcat with warrantee.
That said its very close!!
Im new to your channel but its very cool and honest. I appreciate that.
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MOPAR ALL THE WAY.
BEEN DRIVING AND RACING THEM FOR ALMOST 35 YEARS.
Another Fantastic video!
I also think the Supercharged Scat is the more fun route to go on top of the cost effectiveness. I picked up my 2016 Challenger Scat Pack with 7,000 miles for $32,000
Total cost for supercharger and if I forged the internals would still have me well below the lowest priced comparable hellcat by several thousand dollars. So much so that if I chose to beef up the HP-70 trans as well I would still be in at right around $50,000. So I am very heavily leaning towards going that route. 1,000HP reliable daily for $50k? 100% yes. I am so grateful for all the content you provide on your channel. Thanks a million. Can't wait to see if you mod your wife's T/A 👍👌
Superbee for the win, I love my shaker
How’s your scat doing?
I’m from Ohio and us Midwest people tear mopars up between potholes and burnouts we fuck em up ever since 06 when they made the Daytona’s and Srt8’s
Neem Tv ひ no cap 😂😂
Fuck ohio
@@TheGunBub fuck you
Finally someone I see actually having fun
This dude wants a hellcat so bad its all over his face the whole vid
Lol I really don’t.
He could of had a hellcat just dont gaf about one wen u have a scatpack thats 630 hp thats fucking insane i would take the scatpack
Ill take this for economy, sleeper status and who doesnt like saving roughly 200 a month on insurance
He hurt lol
He's telling both sides. Stop hatin!
Why everybody hating on him let him be great
A 25 min video of you trying to convince yourself that you made the right choice. (Which by the way, you didnt)
You only saying what everyone watching is thinking.
You guys acting as if its a bad or boring car lol......
Yeah a $40,000 car plus $13,000 in mods equals about $53,000 when the hellcat is $76,000, why not bite the bullet, and get a hellcat instead. Its clearly better
@@loganfraizer5390 you can get a hell cat for 63-65k new. This is cool because his car looks good and fits his needs. Even if he spent 50k total that's really not that bad. However if we were to look used you can get a used hell cat for mid 40's. I think it's still money well spent because it's cool everyone blows money at least he blew it on something he likes.
I was thinking the same thing...lol.
I have a '13 392 and even if I put a procharger on it, the engine can at best handle 9lbs of boost. This is at the top end, because centrifigal blowers build throughout the range. Anything greater needs forged internals and that is too expensive. Besides, the upgraded transmission needed and it makes more sense to get the Hellcat. That roots blowers sounds sick and you have a warranty. Hellcat for the win.
2019 Hellcats will start at $58,500. As much as I love my Scat Pack, there might be a Hellcat in my future
Mid 40s used
I seen a used 5k miles 6 speed manual hellcat challenger by me 42k... the 392 is enough for me though 485hp naturally aspirated not running a supercharger and extra gadgetry, need my horsepower at the exact milisecond i hit the gas pedal
@@258shoff even though it's supercharged, doesn't mean it won't give you the instant punch when you hit the throttle. I've test driven a couple and I can personally tell you you won't have any problem in that department. With that said, it's definitely not a car I see myself driving everyday like the 392
I don't have a hell cat but, I'm a Mopar fan and love those 2 cars of yours. Huge props brother way to keep Mopar represented
over 10k on a supercharger and can't afford a lawnmower lol
I hate yardwork. Get rid of the grass and put in gravel and Hellcatuses or something you don't have to maintain.
Getting rid of grass and putting gravel is so lazy and it makes your house well most houses loose value and appearance like how can you not enjoy the green world ...
Kevin Rodriguez how can y’all sit here and complain about another GROWN MANS lawn. He spent 10k on a supercharger when you’re using a fake account and you’re probably like 15 and don’t even have $10k @Shane Matthews
@@excessivemedia9295 agree
@@Dontsubtothis im 26 and i dont have 10k i have 30k in the bank boy catch upp
If the hellcat is 20k more on loan and you spent 13k in mods to still be slower with a voided warranty I don't get it...
Bro, I started watching your channel not even 3 days ago & i have not been able to stop watching 😭😭. I used to be crazy about hellcats till I started watching your videos. I love this channel
Thank you!
I’ve seen used hellcats at $44,000 it’s not that much more then you payed for your scatpack
How many miles it had ?
Manuals with a ton of miles
DadMods no.. I’ve seen some between 40-48k used with only 3-4K Miles.. sooo
@@notrealclout there are over 250 used charger hc's and over 600 challenger hc's for sale on car gurus right now lol Plenty of great low mileage deals out there . 😎
XB0X but at the same time u can get used scats for cheaper, bout 30k
I test drove the hellcat and the scat pack this past Sunday I bought the scat pack just incredible power with both of them but I thought the scat pack was excellent 😊👍
Didn't the scat feel slow after the hellcat? Which did you drive first?
Hqen2000 Yes the hellcat is a monster that first. But the scat pack was the right price and I ordered a pro charger being a mechanic and ain’t nothing for me to do 😊👍
@@DadMods so if you put a pro charger on your Car , the warranty does not go away ??? I thought if mod it in anyway and mess with the engine the warranty
I’d go used Hellcat bcs it’s already built to hold the supercharger and get a extended warranty. There’s still a lot of work needed in your motor to make sure it holds up and the Helllcat will hold its value better than a modded car.
I agree he spent 54k a used hellcat can be got for 50 ad 4k in mods and now you have a car making 100whp more than him and he’s tapped on 8lbs of boost hellcat can go up. Dudes nutz.
@@joshreynolds729 Facts bro lol. Not to mention that’s not even the limit.
You cannot make a reliable 1000hp in a hellcat for 4K. Facts. The fact so that none of the people who come in here saying this actually own one.
@@DadMods fire video
Your intake manifold holds you back just a bit. The hellcat doesn't have one because the supercharger sits on top so it's more direct. If you went whipple supercharger you probably would've smoked him
Built not bought 👌🏾💪🏾
Richard N he didn’t touch the engine at all or even installed his own wheels, that’s bought no matter how you look at it
Built meaning he worked on the engine or even the car himself which he didn’t so pls just shut up
Bro your so dumb lol
Got rid of my scat. I have a 2017 hellcat total different car
I have a manual scat pack challenger I enjoy the NA because of the theoretical low maintenance. I know that the 392 can not handle a lot of boost without risking damage being done to the engine. I’ll do bolt on mods and keep up with routine maintenance to get the most out of the engine that I can. Once the engine starts to go in the future then I can change the push rods rock arms pistons and cam and then finally look into adding in forced induction. I like the ride and playing around with it but if I really wanted to go as fast as possible I would’ve got an auto. I just want to get the absolute most out of the car because I know once I’m old that these cars will be all but extinct.
I had a police package Charger with 101k miles but a buttload of idling hours. So yeah, here it goes. What I've done to the engine is heads cleanup and new replacement piston rings, gapped the top ones really loose. Bores good, all pistons were good. Nearly a year to get these in and done. 2nd hand GT-35, Isuzu truck's intercooler, bigger injectors and a piggy back ecu. Consistent hi 11s. Not even the trans fluid was changed.
@21:29 “from a reliability standpoint I don’t see the difference” 😂😂😂 COME ON MAN‼️
You have to give the motor a good detailing. A clean motor is a happy motor
I try to keep it clean also but it's hard when it has a hood scoop
This is a "depends" question. If you have the money and don't want to mess with it yourself the Hellcat is the better idea. I guess think of it like this.. Ask any Amish guy if he would rather buy nice furniture or make it himself. If you ask me I'm buying the furniture.
In your case I'd most definitely rather do it myself the way you did it.
Good video
PS mow your grass...lol
lol I had it mowed the next day. But consequently it's long again, not like the video but long...
An acquaintance of mine built his "police" 375hp 5.7 hemi for turbo duty. He indeed had to change piston and rod s for a forged set. The cam he used was a .228 dur at fifty that was a bit expensive seeing that he must re-use stock valve springs. So yes the heads are stock except for port cleanup. He expects 600 rwhp once he gets a bigger tb.
Without looking at other comments, I have to say as you must know, you're overlooking a lot of stuff. Just to name a few...3 position electronically controlled shocks, 6 piston Brembos front brakes, full 5 year drive train warranty, quality of engine and transmission, lighter forged stock 9.5" wheels and more. You end up stressing the difference in cost but you left out many of the items that are not included in the scat pack.
I run an SRT 392 stock with DR's and I'm at 12.00. I don't think 11.6 is impressive for the low 600's HP. You must know guys are running mid 11's with the 392 without a supercharger. Not the majority, of course but many are with minor mods. So to each their own. Good luck with your pistons holding up.
We should all just buy a top fuel dragster and get this over with. 😂
You gotta remember the hellcat has 2.62 gears so it’s more top end & your scat comes with 3.09’s. That’s why his top end is a lot stronger than yours. But I’m sure if he did the gear swap he might still reel you in but it would take him a lot longer.
Hmm I didn’t know that - but a Jeep srt and a Jeep trackhawk have same gear ratios
The only other point I am trying to make is that 55-60k used price range is coming down. I look at every single video you post. Trust I was hesitant about wanting to buy used hellcat too but after all the problems you had with your charger and then you void the warranty with mods. I would rather take that same 55k total you're spending on your car to get a used one. It is almost like I cant lose because the warranty is still there. That is just me tho. To each his or her own
I agree... If you don't plan on modding it even used isn't a big deal since you have the warranty. So there is no single answer it just depends on your variables. One option isn't always better than the other. With that being said I love my adaptive radar cruise control.
Hellcats in Atlanta are high 40s and 50k right now, with less than 20k on the clock
Hard deal, as all SRT products carry only 3 years of warranty including power train. Scats and Cats are appx $25-$30k apart here in Canada regardless of year. Our scat has everything the cat has minus 200hp. With warranty up in a year anyways - I'd be tempted to throw a Procharger and slicks at the scat for half the price of buying a cat. The real deal is - banks will finance a cat at low interest over many years.. where a Procharger requires cash / credit card ;)
Dealers in South FL wouldn't budge on Hellcat Charger prices....even with 2019's coming out soon.
Curry Shot You I heard that the factory warranty is only valid with the original owner and is none transferable...
You’re Lowkey hating on the Hellcat. That car is amazing as shit!
You're Lowkey a Hellcat fanboy.
@@co9648 right lol
@@co9648 it’s pretty high key, considering his channel name lol
@@co9648 keep the negative energy to yourself
@@yelltona3928 keep the negative energy to yourself
I bought a 2018 Daytona 392...because I like the matte black decals and I wasn't concerned about the speed at that time..but when my warranty is up I'll do a supercharger forge high performance heads and MORE if your going to upgrade it only makes since to be able be faster than a hellcat otherwise it's stupid to make any performance upgrades...
I hate to say it but I don't think I would want to buy a used hellcat unless I new the owner and it wasn't beet to shit.
I agree 100%! When I was looking I was looking for any sign the person wasn’t sold some old boring dude who drove it but most of the time they aren’t owned by people that don’t want 707hp so it’s scary.
But u would buy a modded Scatpack? LoL.....
I think the opposite is true on used Hellcats.
Most people who spend $60k plus on one vehicle are NOT going to dog it into the ground with no mercy.
To the contrary they are most likely going to keep it garaged when not driving it. Only type of person who would trash it would be a teenager owner which there are very few that can afford a Hellcat.
Also most that are for sale is probably from people who couldn’t keep up the payments. Also a lot of people sold their Hellcats to try and have money to buy a Demon. Now their going to sell them to get a Redeye.
A used Hellcat is the WAY TO GO. Let the original owner take the big depreciation hit and you come in and finance it for 45K with low miles.
Hydra Shock no I would not bye a modded scatpack I would modify it myself but that's me. There's an ass for every seat.
mrbdx lol come here to Texas every hellcat here you see on the highway you’ll see them revving or racing.
Come on bro, you know the answer is NAW NAW! Hell to the Naw Naw Naw
And you FAILED TO MENTION that the Hellcat engine if “Fully Forged” unlike your SP.. and the Hellcat can handle way more boost than a stock unopened 392
Of course it can. But is the engine and transmission 25k+ stronger? Or just a little stronger. Hellcat's cant hold ungodly power or anything, I've seen them pop at 900whp. It depends on what your goal is. But once you open the hellcat the warranty is gone and all you are left with is the sum of what your internals and blower are.
Hqen2000, I’m doing everything I can to remind myself that I actually like you, because if you were one of several other TH-cam guys who I can’t stand i.e “family cruising” “Tunnel chasers” “R/T life”, & one or two others, and they were saying some of the stuff you’re saying in this video, & in these comments I would disrespect the hell out of you, but since I put you up there with guys I do like, like I.e “Demonology”, “SRTMUSH”, “JMCrides”, “MGD collections”, & one or two others, I’m gonna just go ahead & respectfully disagree with you.
Lol that’s fine. I’m not even saying I’m right. I just like discussion so I can learn more. Everyone has a different opinion, and I try to hear as many of them as I can. It helps me decide what I actually believe. Wait till my 392 blows up and I see all the cost, then everyone can I told you so me lol. I’m just having fun though. It’s all good no disrespect.
Hqen2000, right on.. if I’m you I’d spend the $ & add some forged pistons, rods, etc asap.. and custom cam, & a higher stall speed torque converter too.
Personally I wouldn’t have spent $12k to make a SP be a mid to low 11sec car. I would’ve spent $18k and made it a mid 10 to low 10sec car.
Imo, you should’ve ditched The Who Charger thing, & bought a One owner none modded Hellcat Challenger. You already have another car you can use as a daily, & to haul the family around so you really don’t need your Performance car to be a Sedan! Plus the Challenger looks better than the Charger.. look at your old ladies T/A Challenger, There’s no way anyone who’s HONEST with themselves actually thinks your 4dr looks better than Her Muscle Car.
I really think the 4dr looks better lol. But I don’t fit well in the challenger with the kids. It’s not horrible just not ideal. I don’t like the challenger honestly. Not in like a dislike way. Just in the in don’t want one but yeah sure I guess it’s cool kinda way. Lol. I mean I got her one, it just not for me.
All the charger and Challenger v8s are fantastic machines. But the hellcat is a nod up. Great cars my dude.
It really do make it feel like your trying to make yourself feel better... no comparison
A2speed has a performance package for 3k.
Pulleys, injectors, dyno tune, throw in some mid pipes, driveshaft and diff brace you’re at around 5500. Making somewhere around 800whp and it’ll be pretty reliable.
The fact that your tranny, driveshaft, and rear end likely will need upgrades. Also a hellcat holds their value, while your modified car likely actually depreciated it. I love oir scatpacks, but they are better left alone IMHO. You are seriously flirting with danger, and its just a matter of time before you breaks something....out of warranty. Just not worth the trouble.
Hydra Shock I agree, i feel like if you got a scat, enjoy the car for what it is.
Scatpaks and 392 hold their value decently. The older srt models are still going for 20k+
Marcello Wheeler im just saying that modding a 392 up to hellcat power does not give it hellcat value. If anything modding a 392 makes it worth less. So that is why i fundamentally disagree with modding lower HP models. If u want HP, buy it stock...
When it comes to holding value, I say who cares, it's your car you make it your own, don't worry about "the next owner" which at that point you shouldn't be modding it or getting these types of cars
iMiguelAOG im not talking about "holding" so much as a 45k scat pack with 15k in mods is not going to sell for 60k. It likely would be worth less than 45k. When u spend 65k on the hellcat its going to be worth its full value. So why spend 60k to have a car u can only sell for 40k, when u can buy the hellcat for 60k and sell it for 60k...
Bottom line...if u want the fastest car....buy the fastest car. Modding is the worst possible investment and typically causes more heartache than anything..
Great vid bro..JUST ENJOY YOUR CAR. We only live once...
dcole808 well spoken
Lol nah you should've just bought the hellcat. You spent the same money.
Jermaine Johnson lol facts.. Got the bread and still made the wrong decision..
Same money? I spent around 54kish. That's much less than even a used Hellcat.
Hqen2000 lol it's really not you can find hellcats with like 9k miles on it for only 56k. Where were you looking.
Hellcats go for high 40s and 50k in Atlanta all day.
Post links to all these cheap hellcats. It's easy to just say you can get it. Show me.
I own a hellcat and prior I had a 2020 widebody scat.. loved it but in reality the hellcat was a dream car for me.. more than winning races or whatever... It's personal satisfaction to get something you always wanted. :) Fyi I only have 200 miles on it 😁
Your car is 🔥🔥🔥 my man.. take care of it
Half of the people in the comments talking shit own a Camry... bro your car is nice I love what you’ve done to it keep modding!
Better value? Well how many engines do you want to replace LOL? The 392 is great stock and with a few basic improvements but, you can't beat physics. The 392 engine isn't designed to handle boost whereas the Hellcat is fully built with forged pistons. Also the Hellcat has the rest of the drivetrain (transmission and diff.) ready for 700hp, the internals on the same 8 Speed are weaker on the 392 cars.
All that can be beefed up.
Hqen2000 Sure you can. But if your argument is regarding power/dollar reliably, a built Scat Pack will come out far more expensive than a Hellcat. Plus you have no warranty, down time for finding parts, tearing down your car and installing everything LOL.
@catalyst_99 You must be rich then if you think, tearing down an engine, installing $3000 worth of parts, building it back up, then tuning it for the additional supercharger is "not a whole lot." LOL at that point, it's cheaper to get a Hellcat.
Forged internals is about $3-4k, plus headgaskets, labor, new pushrods, lifters, unlocked pcm, tuner, tuning, supercharger LOL. You're well over $14k. And that's just for power. You haven't addressed the brakes, fuel system, driveshaft, axles etc LOL.
You made the right choice for the money. Saved allot of money vs a overpriced hellcat
After watching your video I want to say your car is badass. It's great you're upgrading it. But it's still not a hellcat and it won't be one. Still gotta give you credit for having a unique car. I respect the fact youre not some guy with a checkbook in a car showroom. You actually built your car.
In 3 & half years I went from a used 2015 challenger srt 392 to a new 2016 challenger hellcat both in jazz blue the 15 & the 16 to a 2019 challenger redeye widebody it’s expensive for sure..I believe you’ll see the light too one day!
The scat pack used to lease for about 400 a month reasonable amount down, now at least 600. It's an insanely valuable car.
A T/A makes no sense I paid 52k for my 2017 hellcat and traded in my T/A which I paid 55 for two months prior
I would go for a hellcat, that power train is bulletproof plus the warranty is a plus !
Andreux R/T ask family cruisin how bulletproof it is.
Ryan Cannon his isn't stock
Ryan Cannon family cruising hellcat is not stock at all, he has a tune, upper pulley, larger injectors, cat delete with a corsa catback !
Andreux R/T guess it's not bulletproof then!
Ryan Cannon funny how most guys say they want a built motor and not bought... And as soon as they void the warranty and run the risk, something happens. Then you get people who either talk about the manufacturer or the owner... If I could afford it, I woupd rather buy my motor
Beautiful build! I personally think it would look sweet if you color matched the gauges though!
Honestly, built, not bought. You could of got a hellcat but you went the build it yourself route. Mad respect, your scat is unique to what you want
My 2019 B5 Scat Pack is still worth $39,800. Great value! Best Bang for your buck on the market!
i agree with you on this one..
The scat pack is more of a daily driver than the hellcat..
Maybe if it was a 10k price difference I would take the hellcat but now it's just relatively overpriced..
Well you get vehicle warranty, forged EVERYTHING in the motor, and ability to handle more power and boost in a hellcat. Do enough to a Scat and itl blow because its not built to handle as much as a kitty
@@tomasocampo444 I have seen the legendary 6.4 do some unbelievable numbers..
If it was in the right hands..
The only problem is that most of the SRT owners don't mod their 6.4..
i would take the 6.4 over the 6.2 every time.
I wish i still had my 2018 daytona i would defff procharge it... I love the interior way better than the skatt bu then again i love the redeye baby demon i might go with tgar
Scat Pack is the best performance package for how cheap it is to this day since the late ‘60s.
Emmanuel Rubio scat packs aren't exactly cheap...
If you ever look for a hellcat. Here in Colorado there’s a lot of Hellcats for 40-50k range depending on miles. I just looked at some for 44k with 8k miles, 2017 hellcat challenger. Even on KBB you can find some within 40k range, maybe a year or two old though.
The HellCat motor is built with forged parts vs the ScatPack. . But you do you. I have a Challenger 1320. (Baby Demon) It runs under 12 seconds stock. I am adding a catback, cold air, larger throttle body, and springs. If I can get to 500HP nice if not, oh well.
I don’t know which is scarier about blowing the engine on the scat pack. The cost to fix it or trying to find someone who’s going to do the job right.
Nah I don't think so all the troubles you've have with it vs a stock hellcat nope. Cuz you'd have a warranty with the same power.
Plus the hellcat would hold it's value better vs a modified car being modified won't increase the value maybe even decrease it.
True.... he's driven an hour one way....many times. With a hellcat.... you just stay stock and you're good with warranty which is pretty important and the resale value will hold much better.... not sure about insurance though.
Hellcat insurance is a lot more, that's something I didn't think about adding in.
Warranty over insurance premiums anyday 7k motor vs a free motor 🤔🤨
You realize no mod can void a warranty unless they can prove the mod caused the failure.
707 from the factory! You do realize that is a very conservative rating? The scat is hella nice, big ups to you! But the Fatcat is in a different league Champ..👑
he saved over 10k and his car only makes 40hp less than a hellcat
Insurance on a SP vs HC is a HUGE difference. I'm 37 and have a clean record and the 6 month premium was almost $1000 for the hellcat vs the $410 for the SP :O
Main thing I wish the SP had is the adjustable suspension. it's not the most comfortable ride on the interstate IMO.
I bought a new Scat Pack over a used Hellcat last month. Loving it so far.
The value of the HELLCATS are going to depreciate the value just like the SRT8 and the Scatpack. The HELLCAT is a great car to rebuild from salvage title to rebuilt title. A salvage titled HELLCAT is around $20-30k from the auction and you don't get a warranty.
ATX-CVPI yup got mine for 20k spent 5k rebuilding and it feels like it never been in a wrecked
Adaptive cruise is awesome!
Ive watched a couple of your videos. I do like some of the comparisons. You can most likely get a used hell cat for what you have in yours but its gonna be a 2015 hellcat. With a car like that you know it was run hard and put away wet. I like that you were able to buy yours new. Your warranty isnt completely out the window. If your a/c breaks they have to fix it . Your talking straight powerterrain. If you switch over to e85 you should be able to run a little more timing and maybe a few more pounds of boost. Most likely getting you 100 more rwhp. Then you would smash on a hell cat. Im just not completely sure the trans and rear would like that? Im more of a mustang guy and know what they can take safely. Props to you because my next car will be a charger. For me it will be whicht one i can get for the best price. I dont wanna pay over 40k for a car that i have to finance. (Payments to high)
Yeah I don’t want to give the internals and trans more than 650whp. So 630whp was a safe margin without crazy boost or timing. Scares me to go up higher unless I specifically plan on building the motor which at this point i don’t.
Ya i would always get new over a used hellcat. Nothing beats your own new car that you know what abuse has been done to it. Not worrying
cobradwight1 check out steve white motors in south Carolina got my 2018 charger scatpack(base model) for 35k after taxes and they delivered it to me in tx for free
Only prob is im in socal.
Im gonna hooefully get one next year. Im trying to pay off my wifes wrangler. Dont wanna have two payments.
F8 Scat they are great n 2 hours from me
I think he gave an honest opinion, value wise. Dollar for dollar, anyone who differs wasn’t paying attention to detail
add a turbo on the blower ,put a tunable ecu , performance plugs , performance wires and you’ll prolly be able to touch 1000h. thinking of going for a 2012 challenger srt8 6.4 manual
Guess it all depends on whether you want the warranty or not.
Exactly. So the big question is are you going to mod it. If you aren't going to mod the hellcat it's really not a bad buy.
Hqen2000 just depends on finances for me. I would mod the Hellcat lightly with CAI and tune but unless I had a ton of money and a daily I wouldn’t mess with the heavy stuff.
Answer is no. A used Hellcat now is going for $40k-$48k with only 7k-15k miles, but im sure they've been beat to death in those short miles. The value of Hellcats are going down due to so many being produced but will still be worth more than a modified Scatpack. Plus the bottem end is built already in the Hellcat. Dodge has a way of coming out with something new so you dream of owning one. For example: Demon. Or better yet, for the amount of $ you put in, you could have got a used Lotus Evora 400 or 410. Youll hang with Lambos with no work done except better sounding free flowing mufflers and window tint 😎
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10% for the big guy. 2021 Inflation.
*10k for a Super charger ? Just get a hell cat lmao*
For 25k more? Some people would rather use that extra 15k for something else.
Hqen2000 but your getting still almost 100 more HP if not more . For the 25k and thats on top of the Super charged scat
100hp more? No. You can very easily match the hellcats hp with a procharged scatpack. No warranty though.
Hqen2000 you said the scat pack had 630 HP with a super charger right? A hell cat has 707 stock.. so its damn near 100 more , thats all i was saying
That’s to the wheels.
Bro dope video you helped me alot!!! I just bought the 2020 50th anniversary scatpack I can't wait to upload some videos on it. I will most definetly be adding a procharger dope video.
And that's why I'm so glad I can install my own performance parts and not get ripped off by these shops
Value is what it's worth when you sell it. Your modded car will sell or no more than normal Scat Pack prices. Hellcat will retain value for being a Hellcat. And your car not having forged internals makes it a ticking time bomb and that's just the truth. A guy that lives 3 Doors Down for me just bought a Hellcat charger with 31000 miles for $43k.. your scat would never sell for that..
I disagree. And if you
Think your friend is safe with his 31000 mile hellcat then you are wrong. It’s probably getting close to being out of warranty. The value when you sell it only matters if you sell it. I have no plans of selling it, furthermore if you are concerned about resale then any dodge shouldn’t be on your radar because the resale sucks. Your method of calculating value is great for a specific instance but to each their own.
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Wow 43 thousand for a used Hellcat. Your neighbor found a unicorn, or it was a fire sale (it had to go). Trust and believe, that is not typical. Not to mention that it's almost out of warranty.
I do agree with the time bomb part. 6.4s don't like a lot of boost. I personally would try to keep it at 7 pounds or less. But if the owner plans on keeping the car, then he can enjoy the car. He can also save up for forged internals. If/when the motor goes boom, now he's possibly prepared for it, can make/pay for the repair. And still come out cheaper than purchasing a new Hellcat. On the plus side it's easier to make things better in stages than to pay 72 thousand plus all in one shot.
I agree on the 43k Hellcat. But everyone knows of one that was sold, nobody can post a link or any evidence. It's typically a manual Challenger because that's the least sought after hellcat, the Charger hellcat is the most. So just saying "hellcat" doesn't really tell the whole story.
I also have more options since I started with a lower cost, if I started with a hellcat I wouldn't have even wanted to mod it since it's so expensive and it's main benefit is the warranty.
Its a 15 manual challenger in purple... yuk.... and did have a few issues.. tires need replaced immediately.. the clutch doen't really feel all that great and the stock rims are gone, and its got some sort of lowering done.. so its not stock.. it has muffler deletes and a cai.. he traded in an 11 5.0 mustang so the numbers could be worked over a bit..
Why get a Hellcat $76,000 when you can get a ZO6 brand new for $80,000
Don Rico the 4 doors, for a car guy with a family...
80K Z06 is the cheap version right?
Christopher Pitchford stop lol
Two door cars are perfect for guys to drive their boyfriend around town
Cause chevy is trash lol
Let's keep it real bro,your car is as you say(heavily modded) with no warranty that hellcat was stock with warranty and still walked you. Not to mention all the head aches you've had.
at *130mph*..
Super helpful video, I've been going back and forth for months now and this video definitely cleared the air
2016 Hellcat for $47,000 with 9,100mi. With specialty vehicles dealers will hold on to them for a while. You can get a new vehicle ( never sold) with little to no mileage for a lower price.I have seen some early 2000's Dodge Vipers with around 1,000 miles for around $50,000. 2015 Audi RS 5 AWD with 14,000 miles for $45,000 which is normally an $80,000 vehicle.
I see so many scat packs around now. There not as eye popping as they used to be. 🤔
No. Hellcat factory warranty and the internals are built for the hp. 392 is best naturally aspirated but to each there own.
D. Anderson exactly 392s do not like boost
Mr. TAMW indeed my friend the add on just kills the internals of the engine complete premature wear.
Can you do a video with the srt not the hellcat
Yeah. It’s an easier comparison because the SRT and the Hellcat are mostly identical.
Gotta love that supercharger sound. Wy didn't you install the blower your self, would have saved $4k?
I didn't hear him go over the ride itself. Never drove a HC, but from what I hear, it has adaptive suspension, making the drive MUCH smoother. Its like driving a normal car, and then getting in a Cadillac. Maybe not that much, but there's a difference.
Kudos for trying. Lots of wasted money, trying to compare to a HELLCAT If your building your Scatpack for personal satisfaction than fine don’t miss lead others for false hope. HELLCAT is built from the ground up. It’s made to handle all that power. From the Engine to the trans to the rear end. Also the on board computer I can say these things because I owned SCAT PACK. Ask me. I will give you the correct answers. I now have two HELL CATS in my garage.
Why have two hellcats? One for the wife?
1,000,000 subs with no vids ? Maybe one charger one challenger?
Daniel Hernandez I didn’t think of that maybe
I just wanna mod my scat pack as much as I can without adding boost
200 on the dash says alot pal
It says they put a different speedo on it. Like how my Wife's pilot says 160 on the dash.
Marciel Industries change the rear gears lol silly
Hqen2000 180 is safer on the bright side but I look forward to seeing your next mopar😁😁😁
But yeah the hellcat has a good top speed it has great power: anyone who thinks I’m a hellcat hater you are wrong. I’m a fan.
Thought about throwing a whipple on my Jeep SRT only because i cant find the brown interior for the Trackhawk. I only see red so i totally understand what you mean when u point out things u like vs what you dont like between your car and the hellcat
Excellent brother im with ya my Challenger Scat is 715 whp on 93 and 820 whp on 110 and getting the capability of carrying 2 tunes one for 93 and goin to E85 to make 110 power im @ 22lb boost fully forged