Video is absolutely ace. My only real issue with this blaster is that it's a pain to swap the springs out. If I spent that money on a product, I would want it to be the only pump-action Springer I would need; so swapping springs would be something I'd be doing pretty often.
Swapping out the springs is a pain compared to what we've had in the past couple of years first with Prophecy, then Ceda, quick takedown Caliburn and the latest fast spring swap of the Dart Zone Nexus Pro needing a single screw. While I do think it would be great to swap out the spring faster, it's also a trade off with durability. Perhaps they could develop a different stock for it with a threaded end cap or something to access the spring easier.
Thats the most soldier looking blaster that i've seen, probably look more cooler than other blasters such as the ceda, nexus pro or caliburn in my opinion
Great video. That thing is a beast man. I like the double priming bars spaced vertically, I think we’ll be seeing more blasters built that way. Way too rich for my blood but so cool. Keep up the great work sir.
I'll be honest, I'd rather save a few hundred and buy two caliburns in case I break one. But if money is less of an object the build quality is superb.
@@iBert0 the difference there is injection molded delrin isn't going to break. The Caliburn will eventually. And "just print it" how much does a printer cost and how long does it take to setup and learn again?
@@iBert0 disagree with you. No 3d printed blasters will last a lifetime. 3d printed parts will break. No 3d printing is durable no matter how you print it. 3d printing is cool but will for sure break unless it sits on a shelf and is never fired. This thing is super durable
@@20spray1 Depends on how far back you want to go lol, apparently Sab/re had a hand in the recent past of telling the Singaporean Nerf community you needed a license to own/make a 3D printed blaster or needed police/their approval to use them at their events lol (Which was false)
Ok, as much as I can't spend $100 on a flashlight, I can definitely see myself buying this eventually. This is unheard of quality at this point in our hobby. Also, if this gets enough traction, it's only $635 usd.
Daaaang. I've been watching these for a while now and was looking at logistics for getting them on the QuikFlag NZ field. Being able to pay it off is definitely a good option to get such durable blaster that can take (and make) the hits. Definitely a top tier back line competitive blaster.
That thing is amazing. I know it's expensive but having nothing 3D printed and nothing cheap thin ABS is a huge step up. Some of my 3D printed stuff has warped due to heat. I will probably get this one day. Still love my CEDA though.
Hey mate, awesome video as always. I'm looking to get myself one of those. Just wondering where you got your foregrip and grip from and what screws you use to lock them in?
This thing is wayyyyyyyy too expensive for a blaster. I’d rather go and buy a few 3D printed blasters lmao Great review as always though :) Stay safe Brad
Hot dang that's pricey. Sweet quality though. Would be nice if that barrel was covered a bit more, maybe an easier way to switch springs. Definitely a whole new level of blaster.
They have designs for a 3D printed suppressor you can add, or just throw on an airsoft or gel ball suppressor to protect the end. The spring swap is annoying compared to things like Nexus Pro but is definitely much easier than a Longshot.
hopefully with more traction blasters like these begin to drop in price making them more accessible. But i mean as it is you can't really get better quality blaster than this so for some i can totally see this as a just purchase.
How did you get that blaster to Australia, Bradley? I was thinking of buying that but the main problem is that the ABF might assume it could be a firearm (aside from the cost).
I have some questions about the Sabre M20 series of blasters. 1) What are the different M20 variants? I’ve heard of the M20, M20C, M20S, M20 Construct, M20X and apex prime, are there anymore? 2) What are the difference between the different Sabre variants? Is the M20C just a Delrin internal variant of the original M20 which has a metal internal? And the M20S is just a higher plunger volume version of the OG M20 while the Construct is just a higher quality version of the OG M20 using steel parts and the M20X is just a metal external variant of the M20?
Hey Bradley. Awesome vid! Seems to be very quiet compared to the Worker Swift. Is this from having a 100% (or close to 100%) airseal? The Swift has a rubber bumper to help with sound but the plunger crash is still so loud on the Swift.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT I remember in a video, you mentioned it was squeaky and to lube the guide rails. I most probably will get another flywheeler over this anyways, it's fine
whats your personal opinion as far as is this the best blaster youve ever used or not? would you buy this over your caliburn /modded longshot/xzeus etc? Thanks!
It's definitely better in build and performance than an Xzeus or Longshot, on par for performance with a Caliburn but with better build quality. I'd choose this over those.
Great videos as always Brad. Just wondering where did you get the foregrip and rear handle for this blaster? Are the picatinny rail and the scar barrel included in the $850 kit?
Injection moulded Delrin? Don’t think so. It is more likely CNC machined from a solid block. Edit: I think I stand corrected. It does appear to be injection moulded afterall. Looking further into the video. That is quite impressive for such a small startup.
It’s even smaller than a startup. It’s not even beyond the 5 fingers you have in your hand. If a larger company is behind this, maybe it will be a different story. It is really moulded. If you want , you can PM Conrad and ask for actually mould pics. Investing in those mould pieces is a $ bomb.
@@Haoren85 I am fully aware of the costs of an injection mould this size (for two shell pieces). A startup is a startup... independant of the amount of people :-) I don’t doubt the fact the shell is injection moulded. I can tell from the internal structure and most specifically from the sinkmarks on the outside of the shell. A tell tale sign of injection moulded parts. Thank you for your input.
"that word, you keep saying it. I do not think it means what you think it means." I couldn't resist using this quote, even though it's a little too far on the "I'm right" side of the spectrum of confusion correction phrases.
I love it. From everything you showed it looks amazing. I'm just not a massive fan of how far the barrel sticks out. If they did a bullpup version to shorten the barrel overhang I'd be well in for that..... Also 250fps @ 14kg would be perfect for my high power games.
Could make a Talon Claw Bullpup, slap a Pro25 in there, and a nice barrel then you should be getting 250s as long as you have a decent seal with other upgrade parts.
@@slade6828 Such lengths? Those are just pretty basic "mods" honestly lol plus depending on how much you do yourself it'll cost under $200 USD, added bonus for mine with the takedown butt I can swap out parts very quickly on the field if I need too, plus I actually enjoy messing with my blasters. Now for flywheels cause I don't like working with those I paid a premium for an FDL🤣
@@thehollowlingwin can u get a nerf feeling prime. Can a basic mod helps me achieve a smooth priming and trigger action? Or do i have to continue modding a cali or a longshot to have baby smooth prime with a 250fps everytime? Again its all about functionality and performance. Mind u i have a cali with a k14 spring. Priming was a killer eventhough it hits around 350fps. Tis however feels like im using a worker prophecy but with smoother priming and constant high fps
You mentioned that you think they upgraded the trigger for you? So it’s actually 850 plus extra for a metal trigger and a grip? Also I wasn’t clear on the purpose of the electrical tape on the barrel. Was that to hold the strings in place?
The tape is to protect the strings. You can also place a suppressor over the top to further protect it. I think trigger and mag release are usually delrin parts, they aren't vital to be metal, just a cosmetic upgrade really.
Bradley ... 18kg need a longer barrel... that’s how Conrad manage the distance and accuracy with that solution. You will notice a lot of “snipers” in SG and MY are using longer barrels for jungle games. As for the length of longer barrel , you need to check with Conrad . He has done a few variants. Enjoy Long range nerf games. It’s quite fun.
Yeah, it's almost like he mentioned that the 18kg spring is optimal with a longer barrel, in this very video... But you were probably too busy pushing your "SAB have always been paragons of morality" agenda to notice ;)
@@TheRealMycanthrope yup. I am not denying it. :D I just felt if you do a test between 14kg versus 18kg. The barrel used has to be different in length and you will get similar accuracy grouping results as the 14kg. And with regards of morality , no one broke the law in the process.
Agree with the blocky design. But personally I am from the manufacturing industry. Probably dare “someone” ( not a MNC ) else to make similar with lower price. From my point of view, the margin is an issue and to commit to a supplier to make this. It stressful.
As you say the price matches the build quality. Having said that, for that price, having to use electrical tape to secure the strings on the scar is pretty hokey and really what was being done 3 years ago. Would be better if they just had a regular barrel leaving it up to the buyer to use their choice of scar. ( This blaster with a Blasterfy Scar would be cool AND expensive) Secondly those seem like Long Shot diameter springs but with the length of a Caliburn spring - kinda difficult to find, meaning one would have to rely on Sabre to supply all the springs ( one of the things that the TC and Caliburn and now the Lynx have going for them is one can readily find springs for them. Lastly I hope they come out with many more lowerkg springs, for those that want to use it at a 150ish fps game. All in all, I would buy it if those issues were addressed - I've spent more overall, for less.
150fps it would need to be like a 6kg spring which would be awesome because it would feel like a stock Nerf blaster to prime. The scar barrel I think they baked it into their barrel so that they had control over the accuracy as it leaves the shop but those barrel nuts you can easily attach to your own Worker/Artifact barrel if you wish.
Beautiful blaster, don't get me wrong, but you can have a caliburn with metal internals (requiring you to only replace chassis parts for the most part) or a dart zone nexus pro/mk 1.1 for SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper with very little performance loss. Maybe super long term this thing pays for itself and obviously in your case as a TH-camr who does this so frequently and wants to push the hobby forward, a reasonable purchase. I don't think this is adequately priced for any but the most enthusiast level hobbyists.
Customs is customs. It's federal. Brass barrel may help, can experiment with additional delrin barrel nuts sold on their store but the pusher would not seal directly into the brass because its too tight for it.
I’ve got one now , quite pleased with it however I have been unsuccessful in attaching a grip. They are too narrow for the grip attachment point on the blaster...What grip did you use? Can you provide a link. Or did you dremel the grip in order to make it fit? Cheers
Yeah if they partnered with another company and made a cheaper injection molded version that would definitely widen get alot of sales. Well it seems like thats the way the market is headed now anyway
Its neat..... but that pricetag..... SAB also seems to have a bad reputation as a company in the NIC (outside of Singapore) from what I've heard. I haven't heard the full story on why but I think they may have done some questionable things in the past. Build quality and construction seem rock solid, although the aesthetics aren't my taste. $850 could get you an FDL 3, and still leave you enough money to buy another couple 3d printed blasters. For that price you could also trick out a longshot and have basically the same thing and again still have plenty left over to buy several other 3d printed blasters. Heck, you could get 3-4 ender 3's and start a print farm. I dunno, it doesn't seem worth it to me.
There's definitely differing opinions on this blaster. I think it's mostly for someone who wants one blaster that will perform great and never fail on them.
The story was many believed SAB copied Caliburn. I was the first few buyer of SAB. The initial drive was consumers bought off-the-shelve Caliburns. It under-performed and broke upon purchases. Seeked engineer by profession for professional adjustment. Major internal tweaks and aesthetic enhancements in the internals formed SAB. Main incident : A FanBoy posted the infamous Caliburn in the dustbin pic as an expression of the frustration he faced with Caliburn purchase. This main pic infiurated Caliburn Supporters. Do take note, the maker has no control over behaviour of his product. So with exaggeration and conflict argument brought in main topics such as copying , not paying royalties and giving credits to Captain slug. Pls take note all these argument were made by the Fans. With regards to Copying - no law was broken , the direction was to provide better off the shelve products and after sale service in SG locally. With regards to paying royalties - till date Captain slug has not engage SAB on this matter and also related to the above point. With regards to giving credits - was actually given in SAB facebook home page but do take note, all the requests were made by the fans and not by Captain slug himself. Few things to take note : The person who posted the initial controversial picture apologised publicly within the same few days it was posted. I am not part of SAB team. The person who posted in initial controversial pic is actually a nice person , i was defending him on the net after he apologised. Several members in the community also gave care and concern to him. I witness some level of cult like cyber bullying. So I decided to support SAB ever-since by buying all their products. SAB has never once under-deliver in performance and quality to any of the consumers. You will be surprised some of the sabotaging things done by some local Caliburn fans did in the local community such as buying SAB, swap SAB with non SAB internals and selling them to kids to disappoint them. SAB reaches out to such resale consumers and swap back the internals for free. This is just one example. I would say SABRE had a rough journey and in darkness only faith guided the Maker.
I would love this but to buy it and get it to Sydney would be so expensive. Question I want to build a heigh FPS longshot like at least 300 fps what would be the best kit to get? Please help
300fps isn't easy with a longshot, but I'd suggest either the OMW kit which has an expanded plunger tube, or an Artifact/Worker kit. But the new Worker kit only takes retaliator diameter springs so you definitely want one that takes Longshot size springs. My personal preference would actually be a Caliburn or Lynx though.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT I do love the Caliburn but I don’t own a 3D printer and also don’t know anyone that does. Would it be a bad idea to own one without having a 3D printer?
@@viciousviolet3783 I owned one for a long time without having a printer. If you take care of it and don't leave it in a hot car or anything then you should be fine. I got mine made by Frontline Foam.
i like it. itd be nice to have something so capable that doesnt creak n groan from a spring change. i havent killed any 3d parts in the heat yet but its bad enough to melt all the glue out of a solar christmas light in a car round here sometimes
I've had some 3D printed parts, mainly scar barrels warp from the heat, but have also heard horror stories from people who left 3d printed blasters in their cars.
ok ill have to remember that i got a BT scar on one of mine n just asked a shop to price printing a grip for the same one. o wow i just realised whats gonna happen to a warm spacer with a spring pushin on it
My only question is, when does the fps get TOO high? 320 is fantastic especially for a pump action springer, but cant you do just as well with something that hits 250? Understandably precision is most important and you get more laser beam like shots with the higher fps granting you less deviation as the dart peeters out.
Honestly to me it really depends on your group/event/field given some have different caps, or different amounts of cover like in my group our cap is 250fps with plenty of cover so we perfer using Talon Claws because the v4 variants can achieve that while being smaller than the Caliburn so it's easier to maneuver around cover/obstacles.
We play with a 300fps limit, though I know some places to play higher. I'd say that above 300fps though you'd want to have like a 30 metre minimum engagement distance or you will bruise people.
@@thehollowlingwin im thinking of it more logrithmically where the higher fps you go the less impact the advancement becomes (for a good analogy check out Moores law). I think the best way to say what im thinking is when does fps stop changing the deviation of X amount of shots at Y distance Better example is playing golf and youre puttting on a green that slopes down to the right and the hole is straight away. The harder you hit it the less of an impact the slope will have and the softer is the inverse being taken more by the hill. The question is at what point does that amount of force stop mattering where its insignificant?
Great video and amazing blaster! I'm a little turned off that even at that price you still have to upgrade to an aluminum trigger and sear though, gosh
That will be next week. Yeah it's expensive and not everyone will want to get one, the payment plan probably helps or just become a reviewer and get it cheaper.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT might just have to start reviewing to get it lol but it does make sense specially in hot climates and for reliability. Good review looking forward to the game footage and some sniping!
@@BradleyPhillipsYT $53 a month, for a year, for a foam flinging blaster, sounds even crazier when I say it like that, but I still want it.. As long as I don't buy anything else, that's about my hobby budget... Lol
Nice blaster but its very pricy but it is injection moulded which isn't cheap either. Looks very much like a caliburn, the main hardware components looks like it matches as well. Delrin is a little bit of a werid choice would have liked to have seen pa6 30% glass fiber (nylon) or polycarobnate with glass fiber. (Pa6 30% gf is the standard for power tools). The aluminium barrel look for 15.88x1.48 size usally comes under telyscopic and has a matching 12.7x1.6 thats a close fit inside it. This is the setup for my self made caliburn that makes a amazing air seal.
@@iBert0 and the internals were different . Very tiring to explain this to Caliburn fans when they don’t have a SAB to compare ... SAB was already hitting these FPS..
I would be very concerned carrying that in public in the USA, it has a very military look. They need to produce it in brighter colors (e.g. red or orange or yellow or blue) to make it stand out as not a genuine firearm. At over $650 USD before shipping, and which no included grip, I wonder how many units they expect to sell? I already have a Caliburn in Yellow/Black (around $120), and CEDA S in Red/Black ($89), and an original CEDA with Alpha Kit upgrade ($69+$60), and a Dart Zone Nexus ($50) and an Aeon ($25), and plan to get two Dart Zone Pro Mk 2.0 pistols when they come out ($80 each) and combined those still only add up to $573, leaving me nearly $80 spare change. On my own property I can get around 100 foot maximum range before I have to "go public". What's the shortest range you'd want to get hit by one of these?
If you're concerned about using it in public (which is not where I will be using it because we have actual fields) then paint it yourself or use a decal sticker or something to give it a brighter colour.
All these will break eventually. I agree with you. $850 is expensive but it is worth the value as those into moulding will know how much it costs to mold blasters. Too be honest, if there is an alternative at $500, I will buy it provides the performance is there. But the issue is, there is no alternative.
So this is what you meant by something better 😂 Also in terms of long tern usage are springers better or flywheels? And yes I know I'm asking the guy who probably has 10 Caliburns and an X Zeus2
@@BradleyPhillipsYT Thats what I thought. I had a moded Stryfe completely break down on me in the middle of a war but I wasn't sure if it was just had bad luck.
Just work in SG for one month. You can buy 6 of these. Average tech salary on the lowest mean is at $4500 SGd per month. And salary in Aussie and NZ is usually higher than SG.
With the price of this blaster, you could probably buy a pistol 1000 fps semi auto Uses shells whils still smaller than half darts Weighs less than a kilo ⚠This comment is intended to be satire⚠
$850 is a little much... I could buy a used car and do it up for that price, or a bunch of tools, or nice clothes, or a bunch of nerf or dartzone pro blasters.... Depends on one’s disposable income I guess.
You could buy a bunch of Nerf or Dart Zone blasters but do you use all of them at once? Some people would prefer one better quality blaster than multiple lower quality that they swap between.
not gonna lie, it looks great! the FPS is epic, but damn the price though :'( No offense to the creators, its a great product they've gone above & beyond! I mean I want one, but not willing to pay sooo much..
I think it looks great, the price is a bit hard to swallow, but the build quality kind of justifies it. Your videos are getting better and more pro each time mate, very thorough review that leaves no questions by the end, top work mate!
@@BradleyPhillipsYT i just sh!t my pants looking at that prices on that site..and i was thinking my nexus pro was expensive in the Netherlands, 100 euros
This just looks like a lazy team or cheapest design was used. If you can design a mould from the start make it look amazing and people wouldn't mind the price as it's sporting good at this level,and far from a toy. But it's just an oblong. Why isn't any rifling their own barrels with real steal tools. Would be so easy with brass or aluminium.
For that much money I would expect stainless steel instead aluminium on the parts. But its whatever I guess lol. Also at that price play paintball or airsoft for way less money, better accuracy, more range, more realistic..........just saying!
Do it then. :”D Talk only :”D Price of playing air soft I agree is less expensive but banned, So you basically stating invalid point. Price of playing paintball is not as cheap, point totally invalid and also largely banned if played in the public.
@@Midnight890 Hahaha dude you are crack up so you’ve just been pulling up lines of code from TH-cam and scrolling through them monitoring the amount of adds you can find. Yes mate sure
Just correcting myself, a lot of the internal components like the priming guide rails are actually stainless steel, not aluminium.
So you can technically apply hold over in your scope to targets at 60 meters and beyond ....?.
Video is absolutely ace. My only real issue with this blaster is that it's a pain to swap the springs out. If I spent that money on a product, I would want it to be the only pump-action Springer I would need; so swapping springs would be something I'd be doing pretty often.
Swapping out the springs is a pain compared to what we've had in the past couple of years first with Prophecy, then Ceda, quick takedown Caliburn and the latest fast spring swap of the Dart Zone Nexus Pro needing a single screw.
While I do think it would be great to swap out the spring faster, it's also a trade off with durability. Perhaps they could develop a different stock for it with a threaded end cap or something to access the spring easier.
I believe sabre will be doing something in the future that allows simple swapping of springs on the M20...
@@BradleyPhillipsYT i don't even use the screw on my brass nexus XD
They've released a metal quick release door
Thanks Bradley for keeping us informed on what's going on with the truly elite blaster category.
These are still a fraction of the cost compared to Xplorer blasters though 😂
Hey. Whichever, they're both outta my league, at least for the immediate future.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT xplorer is a joke...and from what i hear theyre more looks than function.
Thats the most soldier looking blaster that i've seen, probably look more cooler than other blasters such as the ceda, nexus pro or caliburn in my opinion
Not in my opinion
Great video. That thing is a beast man. I like the double priming bars spaced vertically, I think we’ll be seeing more blasters built that way. Way too rich for my blood but so cool. Keep up the great work sir.
I'll be honest, I'd rather save a few hundred and buy two caliburns in case I break one. But if money is less of an object the build quality is superb.
The second one will eventually break as well.
@@Haoren85 Sure, but "eventually" may take years.
@@iBert0 the difference there is injection molded delrin isn't going to break. The Caliburn will eventually. And "just print it" how much does a printer cost and how long does it take to setup and learn again?
@@iBert0 no need to cast a new blaster as it's already casted by the thousands.. just get a new shell and u are done.
@@iBert0 disagree with you. No 3d printed blasters will last a lifetime. 3d printed parts will break. No 3d printing is durable no matter how you print it. 3d printing is cool but will for sure break unless it sits on a shelf and is never fired.
This thing is super durable
Love the performance. Not a fan of the 1) price 2) looks 3) manufacturer (a bit biased from their history).
Fair points #2 and #3.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT quick question about the scar barrel, how long is ypur estimate on the scar and how many lines?
@@semihouo2945 60mm and 6 strings
I'm out of the loop. What's wrong with their history?
@@20spray1 Depends on how far back you want to go lol, apparently Sab/re had a hand in the recent past of telling the Singaporean Nerf community you needed a license to own/make a 3D printed blaster or needed police/their approval to use them at their events lol (Which was false)
Ok, as much as I can't spend $100 on a flashlight, I can definitely see myself buying this eventually. This is unheard of quality at this point in our hobby.
Also, if this gets enough traction, it's only $635 usd.
Daaaang. I've been watching these for a while now and was looking at logistics for getting them on the QuikFlag NZ field. Being able to pay it off is definitely a good option to get such durable blaster that can take (and make) the hits. Definitely a top tier back line competitive blaster.
Hi slaedur, do u have an email I can contact u ?
@@conradsng2447 slaedur@gmail.com
@@slaedur thanks sir. Will send u an email today
That thing is amazing. I know it's expensive but having nothing 3D printed and nothing cheap thin ABS is a huge step up. Some of my 3D printed stuff has warped due to heat.
I will probably get this one day. Still love my CEDA though.
Ceda is a solid blaster, with the AK Blaster Mods kit you can get it to 250fps
Hey mate, awesome video as always. I'm looking to get myself one of those. Just wondering where you got your foregrip and grip from and what screws you use to lock them in?
They grip usually comes with the screws, I bought them from M4A1 Gel Blasters.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT Thanks for the quick response Brad! Look forward to the next video!
Fantastic blaster! It’s amazing that, even with a smaller spring this blaster
Can hit the target 30 meters away.
This thing is wayyyyyyyy too expensive for a blaster. I’d rather go and buy a few 3D printed blasters lmao
Great review as always though :)
Stay safe Brad
There's definitely some people who would prefer this over multiple 3D printed, it's personal preference.
If it's regularly blisteringly hot in your country I totally understand people wanting a more heat resistant build
If you were to compare it to some of dracs on his shop it’s not badly priced considering his are still 3D printing vs injection molded
Hot dang that's pricey. Sweet quality though. Would be nice if that barrel was covered a bit more, maybe an easier way to switch springs. Definitely a whole new level of blaster.
They have designs for a 3D printed suppressor you can add, or just throw on an airsoft or gel ball suppressor to protect the end. The spring swap is annoying compared to things like Nexus Pro but is definitely much easier than a Longshot.
Bradley, what are your favorite scopes to use?
Now that’s a master blaster!
It's the best one I've used so far
@@BradleyPhillipsYT
And that says it all right there!
Thanks for that!!
Hi
I want this. More than any other blaster.
I want the Lynx done like this.
@@iBert0
I didn't know that but I just wanted an injection moulded Lynx.
@@runkurgan or a full injection molded lynx, caliburn and magpie
that sound is LOVELY
Man I just saw that blaster yesterday 🔥
hopefully with more traction blasters like these begin to drop in price making them more accessible. But i mean as it is you can't really get better quality blaster than this so for some i can totally see this as a just purchase.
Bruh i read $85.......i missed a whole digit😂😂😂
Oh man, that would be a steal!
@@jackbrown3985 imagine that aha
How did you get that blaster to Australia, Bradley? I was thinking of buying that but the main problem is that the ABF might assume it could be a firearm (aside from the cost).
Without the grip it shouldn't be an issue. They write on the shipping note that it's Nerf and include some foam darts in the packaging.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT But how did you also get the grip or must I buy elsewhere?
The grip I bought from a gel ball retailer
@@BradleyPhillipsYT ....a JM M4 Gen.9 handle ?
Awesome review! What did you mean by the original Caliburn when you compared air volume?
I have some questions about the Sabre M20 series of blasters.
1) What are the different M20 variants? I’ve heard of the M20, M20C, M20S, M20 Construct, M20X and apex prime, are there anymore?
2) What are the difference between the different Sabre variants?
Is the M20C just a Delrin internal variant of the original M20 which has a metal internal? And the M20S is just a higher plunger volume version of the OG M20 while the Construct is just a higher quality version of the OG M20 using steel parts and the M20X is just a metal external variant of the M20?
You've got it pretty much spot on
Hi Bradley, can you recommend where to game in Sydney for blasters?
Looks absolutely awesome! But the price is is terrifying!!!
Hey Bradley. Awesome vid! Seems to be very quiet compared to the Worker Swift. Is this from having a 100% (or close to 100%) airseal? The Swift has a rubber
bumper to help with sound but the plunger crash is still so loud on the Swift.
This but also padding
It is a gorgeous blaster. Bit rich for my blood but if that changes, it's on my list.
There is also the payment plan if you can justify that
do you lubricate just the bottom of the linear guide rails? or both sides, because that would be a pain...
Would be worth lubricating the bottom. I hadn't done it at the point where I filmed this video.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT I remember in a video, you mentioned it was squeaky and to lube the guide rails. I most probably will get another flywheeler over this anyways, it's fine
Incredible
Looks very nice. Much better than 3d printing.
are these ok to import into SA any issues when you got yours etc?
Yes absolutely fine
I like the way your spotter moves behind the fence when your shooting a foam dart...:-) Good review though.
Well sunglasses are not reliable eyepro when dealing with these kind of projectiles so best to be safe.
whats your personal opinion as far as is this the best blaster youve ever used or not? would you buy this over your caliburn /modded longshot/xzeus etc? Thanks!
It's definitely better in build and performance than an Xzeus or Longshot, on par for performance with a Caliburn but with better build quality. I'd choose this over those.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT thanks! So is there anything you would choose over this m20?
If HPA was legal here I'd choose that
What darts were you using for the range test/chrono?
Adventure force Pro darts
Great videos as always Brad. Just wondering where did you get the foregrip and rear handle for this blaster? Are the picatinny rail and the scar barrel included in the $850 kit?
Scar is, I think rail is shorter on the stock one. Grips from gel blaster store.
Thanks Brad,
May I ask which short darts are you using in this video?
I'm buying it next year
Injection moulded Delrin? Don’t think so. It is more likely CNC machined from a solid block.
Edit: I think I stand corrected. It does appear to be injection moulded afterall. Looking further into the video. That is quite impressive for such a small startup.
I thought the same when I heard it
It’s even smaller than a startup. It’s not even beyond the 5 fingers you have in your hand. If a larger company is behind this, maybe it will be a different story.
It is really moulded. If you want , you can PM Conrad and ask for actually mould pics. Investing in those mould pieces is a $ bomb.
@@Haoren85 I am fully aware of the costs of an injection mould this size (for two shell pieces).
A startup is a startup... independant of the amount of people :-)
I don’t doubt the fact the shell is injection moulded. I can tell from the internal structure and most specifically from the sinkmarks on the outside of the shell. A tell tale sign of injection moulded parts.
Thank you for your input.
I have never seen something so cool before
Instant like just for doing a video on *this* blaster.
1:11 shotgun grip?
The VFG is acting as a shotgun grip
"that word, you keep saying it. I do not think it means what you think it means."
I couldn't resist using this quote, even though it's a little too far on the "I'm right" side of the spectrum of confusion correction phrases.
How would you recommend setting up the M20 for a 250fps cap game using AF pro darts?
Hey, Brad, het outta here, mate, OK? Hehehe
Making us drool over these things, not fair!
I love it. From everything you showed it looks amazing. I'm just not a massive fan of how far the barrel sticks out. If they did a bullpup version to shorten the barrel overhang I'd be well in for that..... Also 250fps @ 14kg would be perfect for my high power games.
It seems an alright length for me but bullpup would be nice
Could make a Talon Claw Bullpup, slap a Pro25 in there, and a nice barrel then you should be getting 250s as long as you have a decent seal with other upgrade parts.
@@thehollowlingwin why go through such lengths when u have it all 1 time out of the box?
@@slade6828 Such lengths? Those are just pretty basic "mods" honestly lol plus depending on how much you do yourself it'll cost under $200 USD, added bonus for mine with the takedown butt I can swap out parts very quickly on the field if I need too, plus I actually enjoy messing with my blasters. Now for flywheels cause I don't like working with those I paid a premium for an FDL🤣
@@thehollowlingwin can u get a nerf feeling prime. Can a basic mod helps me achieve a smooth priming and trigger action? Or do i have to continue modding a cali or a longshot to have baby smooth prime with a 250fps everytime? Again its all about functionality and performance. Mind u i have a cali with a k14 spring. Priming was a killer eventhough it hits around 350fps. Tis however feels like im using a worker prophecy but with smoother priming and constant high fps
You mentioned that you think they upgraded the trigger for you? So it’s actually 850 plus extra for a metal trigger and a grip? Also I wasn’t clear on the purpose of the electrical tape on the barrel. Was that to hold the strings in place?
The tape is to protect the strings. You can also place a suppressor over the top to further protect it. I think trigger and mag release are usually delrin parts, they aren't vital to be metal, just a cosmetic upgrade really.
Hi brad.. just wondering.. what material of plunger tube they use? is it carbon fiber? pvc? Thank you brad..
New scope cam?
Yeah it's the 4k model but wasn't working for me. Think I needed to format the card before use with the new camera.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT which lens do you have?
16mm lens
Bradley ... 18kg need a longer barrel... that’s how Conrad manage the distance and accuracy with that solution. You will notice a lot of “snipers” in SG and MY are using longer barrels for jungle games. As for the length of longer barrel , you need to check with Conrad . He has done a few variants.
Enjoy Long range nerf games. It’s quite fun.
The 18kg barrel will be 800mm and comes out next year apparently
@@BradleyPhillipsYT I am sure you will find a work around within a week. It’s Bradley .
Yeah, it's almost like he mentioned that the 18kg spring is optimal with a longer barrel, in this very video... But you were probably too busy pushing your "SAB have always been paragons of morality" agenda to notice ;)
@@TheRealMycanthrope yup. I am not denying it. :D I just felt if you do a test between 14kg versus 18kg. The barrel used has to be different in length and you will get similar accuracy grouping results as the 14kg.
And with regards of morality , no one broke the law in the process.
@@Haoren85 aight, fair enough 👍🏼
Just what I think I'm getting bored of Nerf I see this video! That was the question should I buy?
Whether you should buy is up to you and your wallet. For some people a Nexus Pro is all they want and it will perform quite fine.
I like the frontline Foam caliburn
I'm quite curious how does it compare to the ceda, the Prophecy, and the caliburn.
Much better than Ceda or Prophecy. On par with Caliburn.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT well, maybe will santch one when they're on sale🤣🤣
$850 and it looks like a block of timber
It's very square shaped
Yea i feel like they should do something abouut that
I personally love the look. I'm 100% for blocky aesthetics
Agree with the blocky design. But personally I am from the manufacturing industry. Probably dare “someone” ( not a MNC ) else to make similar with lower price. From my point of view, the margin is an issue and to commit to a supplier to make this. It stressful.
@@iBert0 yea it is being marketed as meant for dart blasting and most places require orange tips so i dont understand
Isn't it summer in Australia? Why are you in full tac gear, you tryhard? 😁 Nice video, amazing blaster!
To match the blaster obviously
Hi Bradley, I bought the blaster but cant find right hand grip for it. Could u please sent me any useful link to buy the grip?
Mine I had to sand the grip to make it fit. They also have a 3D printed one. I don't have a link for the perfect grip because mine wasn't perfect.
As you say the price matches the build quality. Having said that, for that price, having to use electrical tape to secure the strings on the scar is pretty hokey and really what was being done 3 years ago. Would be better if they just had a regular barrel leaving it up to the buyer to use their choice of scar. ( This blaster with a Blasterfy Scar would be cool AND expensive) Secondly those seem like Long Shot diameter springs but with the length of a Caliburn spring - kinda difficult to find, meaning one would have to rely on Sabre to supply all the springs ( one of the things that the TC and Caliburn and now the Lynx have going for them is one can readily find springs for them. Lastly I hope they come out with many more lowerkg springs, for those that want to use it at a 150ish fps game. All in all, I would buy it if those issues were addressed - I've spent more overall, for less.
150fps it would need to be like a 6kg spring which would be awesome because it would feel like a stock Nerf blaster to prime. The scar barrel I think they baked it into their barrel so that they had control over the accuracy as it leaves the shop but those barrel nuts you can easily attach to your own Worker/Artifact barrel if you wish.
Beautiful blaster, don't get me wrong, but you can have a caliburn with metal internals (requiring you to only replace chassis parts for the most part) or a dart zone nexus pro/mk 1.1 for SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper with very little performance loss. Maybe super long term this thing pays for itself and obviously in your case as a TH-camr who does this so frequently and wants to push the hobby forward, a reasonable purchase. I don't think this is adequately priced for any but the most enthusiast level hobbyists.
Would this benefit from brass barrel with narrower ID? All good with customs outside of South oz?
Customs is customs. It's federal.
Brass barrel may help, can experiment with additional delrin barrel nuts sold on their store but the pusher would not seal directly into the brass because its too tight for it.
Cheers mate, any advice for where to purchase the grips without upsetting the firearm laws?
A gel blaster store or 3D print one.
I’ve got one now , quite pleased with it however I have been unsuccessful in attaching a grip. They are too narrow for the grip attachment point on the blaster...What grip did you use? Can you provide a link. Or did you dremel the grip in order to make it fit? Cheers
Yeah if they partnered with another company and made a cheaper injection molded version that would definitely widen get alot of sales. Well it seems like thats the way the market is headed now anyway
This is also injection molded, but yeah there is definitely a market for a budget non-3D printed Caliburn equivalent
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Its neat..... but that pricetag..... SAB also seems to have a bad reputation as a company in the NIC (outside of Singapore) from what I've heard. I haven't heard the full story on why but I think they may have done some questionable things in the past.
Build quality and construction seem rock solid, although the aesthetics aren't my taste. $850 could get you an FDL 3, and still leave you enough money to buy another couple 3d printed blasters. For that price you could also trick out a longshot and have basically the same thing and again still have plenty left over to buy several other 3d printed blasters. Heck, you could get 3-4 ender 3's and start a print farm. I dunno, it doesn't seem worth it to me.
There's definitely differing opinions on this blaster. I think it's mostly for someone who wants one blaster that will perform great and never fail on them.
The story was many believed SAB copied Caliburn.
I was the first few buyer of SAB. The initial drive was consumers bought off-the-shelve Caliburns. It under-performed and broke upon purchases. Seeked engineer by profession for professional adjustment.
Major internal tweaks and aesthetic enhancements in the internals formed SAB.
Main incident : A FanBoy posted the infamous Caliburn in the dustbin pic as an expression of the frustration he faced with Caliburn purchase. This main pic infiurated Caliburn Supporters. Do take note, the maker has no control over behaviour of his product. So with exaggeration and conflict argument brought in main topics such as copying , not paying royalties and giving credits to Captain slug.
Pls take note all these argument were made by the Fans.
With regards to Copying - no law was broken , the direction was to provide better off the shelve products and after sale service in SG locally.
With regards to paying royalties - till date Captain slug has not engage SAB on this matter and also related to the above point.
With regards to giving credits - was actually given in SAB facebook home page but do take note, all the requests were made by the fans and not by Captain slug himself.
Few things to take note :
The person who posted the initial controversial picture apologised publicly within the same few days it was posted.
I am not part of SAB team. The person who posted in initial controversial pic is actually a nice person , i was defending him on the net after he apologised. Several members in the community also gave care and concern to him.
I witness some level of cult like cyber bullying. So I decided to support SAB ever-since by buying all their products. SAB has never once under-deliver in performance and quality to any of the consumers.
You will be surprised some of the sabotaging things done by some local Caliburn fans did in the local community such as buying SAB, swap SAB with non SAB internals and selling them to kids to disappoint them. SAB reaches out to such resale consumers and swap back the internals for free. This is just one example.
I would say SABRE had a rough journey and in darkness only faith guided the Maker.
I would love this but to buy it and get it to Sydney would be so expensive. Question I want to build a heigh FPS longshot like at least 300 fps what would be the best kit to get? Please help
300fps isn't easy with a longshot, but I'd suggest either the OMW kit which has an expanded plunger tube, or an Artifact/Worker kit. But the new Worker kit only takes retaliator diameter springs so you definitely want one that takes Longshot size springs.
My personal preference would actually be a Caliburn or Lynx though.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT I do love the Caliburn but I don’t own a 3D printer and also don’t know anyone that does. Would it be a bad idea to own one without having a 3D printer?
@@viciousviolet3783 I owned one for a long time without having a printer. If you take care of it and don't leave it in a hot car or anything then you should be fine. I got mine made by Frontline Foam.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT what’s it cost for postage
Postage from the US isn't cheap, I think it was something around $80
I like the new profile picture
i like it. itd be nice to have something so capable that doesnt creak n groan from a spring change. i havent killed any 3d parts in the heat yet but its bad enough to melt all the glue out of a solar christmas light in a car round here sometimes
I've had some 3D printed parts, mainly scar barrels warp from the heat, but have also heard horror stories from people who left 3d printed blasters in their cars.
ok ill have to remember that i got a BT scar on one of mine n just asked a shop to price printing a grip for the same one. o wow i just realised whats gonna happen to a warm spacer with a spring pushin on it
My only question is, when does the fps get TOO high? 320 is fantastic especially for a pump action springer, but cant you do just as well with something that hits 250? Understandably precision is most important and you get more laser beam like shots with the higher fps granting you less deviation as the dart peeters out.
Honestly to me it really depends on your group/event/field given some have different caps, or different amounts of cover like in my group our cap is 250fps with plenty of cover so we perfer using Talon Claws because the v4 variants can achieve that while being smaller than the Caliburn so it's easier to maneuver around cover/obstacles.
We play with a 300fps limit, though I know some places to play higher. I'd say that above 300fps though you'd want to have like a 30 metre minimum engagement distance or you will bruise people.
@@thehollowlingwin im thinking of it more logrithmically where the higher fps you go the less impact the advancement becomes (for a good analogy check out Moores law).
I think the best way to say what im thinking is when does fps stop changing the deviation of X amount of shots at Y distance
Better example is playing golf and youre puttting on a green that slopes down to the right and the hole is straight away. The harder you hit it the less of an impact the slope will have and the softer is the inverse being taken more by the hill. The question is at what point does that amount of force stop mattering where its insignificant?
Well the 260fps shots fired about 10 metres less than the 330fps shots so one could say the difference of 70fps there wasn't huge.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT I think my question will be answered with the longer barrel. We'll find out then
Great video and amazing blaster! I'm a little turned off that even at that price you still have to upgrade to an aluminum trigger and sear though, gosh
As far as I'm aware it's the mag release and trigger, not the sear
Christmas deals are coming soon?
Waiting to see some gaming footage! It’s a quality product but you are really paying quite a bit for it!
That will be next week. Yeah it's expensive and not everyone will want to get one, the payment plan probably helps or just become a reviewer and get it cheaper.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT might just have to start reviewing to get it lol but it does make sense specially in hot climates and for reliability. Good review looking forward to the game footage and some sniping!
@@BradleyPhillipsYT $53 a month, for a year, for a foam flinging blaster, sounds even crazier when I say it like that, but I still want it..
As long as I don't buy anything else, that's about my hobby budget... Lol
@@theycallmesocks1369 I think that's exactly it, it's for people who want one blaster and then go actually use it rather than mod.
Had tried to order one except the financing site they use says they don't carry it. Sent messages to the company and got no response 😞
Perhaps try Conrad himself or Sabre Community Facebook page
Give some time and do what Bradley suggested
I just contacted Conrad. He said he will remedy the situation as soon as possible. It’s a Sunday. 😀
Yep, but it lets me see my wallet in the positive a lil longer :p
@@ShadowMajere I feel you. I sold a lot of my existing blaster for this :”D
a sniper that actually snipes
I get the insane build quality, power, range, accuracy, ect., but I think this should be $500-$600, not $850.
Range test guy: 69 Bradley Phillips: Giggity quagmire: Gigggity
Now do a mud test!
You'd just end up shooting mud at your next enemy
Nice blaster but its very pricy but it is injection moulded which isn't cheap either. Looks very much like a caliburn, the main hardware components looks like it matches as well.
Delrin is a little bit of a werid choice would have liked to have seen pa6 30% glass fiber (nylon) or polycarobnate with glass fiber. (Pa6 30% gf is the standard for power tools).
The aluminium barrel look for 15.88x1.48 size usally comes under telyscopic and has a matching 12.7x1.6 thats a close fit inside it. This is the setup for my self made caliburn that makes a amazing air seal.
The reason it's delrin is Singapore laws. Can't use nylon because of the fact some firearms use it apparently.
Sabre, SAB, whatever they rename themselves into,
...they still ripped off the Caliburn.
How is this a caliburn ripoff?
@@air_ they ripped off captain slugs IP (caliburns design) basically copied the caliburn and refused to give any credit at all
This isn't a rip off of the Caliburn, though I am aware of what they did a couple of years ago. Didn't see it relevant to an M20 review.
@@iBert0 and the internals were different . Very tiring to explain this to Caliburn fans when they don’t have a SAB to compare ... SAB was already hitting these FPS..
@@iron9973 you sound like an angry old man who is unhappy with everything in this world
I would be very concerned carrying that in public in the USA, it has a very military look. They need to produce it in brighter colors (e.g. red or orange or yellow or blue) to make it stand out as not a genuine firearm.
At over $650 USD before shipping, and which no included grip, I wonder how many units they expect to sell? I already have a Caliburn in Yellow/Black (around $120), and CEDA S in Red/Black ($89), and an original CEDA with Alpha Kit upgrade ($69+$60), and a Dart Zone Nexus ($50) and an Aeon ($25), and plan to get two Dart Zone Pro Mk 2.0 pistols when they come out ($80 each) and combined those still only add up to $573, leaving me nearly $80 spare change.
On my own property I can get around 100 foot maximum range before I have to "go public". What's the shortest range you'd want to get hit by one of these?
If you're concerned about using it in public (which is not where I will be using it because we have actual fields) then paint it yourself or use a decal sticker or something to give it a brighter colour.
Shortest range I'd say 20 metres.
All these will break eventually.
I agree with you. $850 is expensive but it is worth the value as those into moulding will know how much it costs to mold blasters.
Too be honest, if there is an alternative at $500, I will buy it provides the performance is there.
But the issue is, there is no alternative.
@@Haoren85 Caliburn?
Economies of scale and cost of manufacturing is an issue which justifies the price. Just like Xplorer.
So this is what you meant by something better 😂
Also in terms of long tern usage are springers better or flywheels?
And yes I know I'm asking the guy who probably has 10 Caliburns and an X Zeus2
I've had more things go wrong with flywheel blasters than with springers if that helps
@@BradleyPhillipsYT Thats what I thought. I had a moded Stryfe completely break down on me in the middle of a war but I wasn't sure if it was just had bad luck.
Also if something goes wrong springers are usually much simpler to repair
Sabre M20 Construct = FN SCAR
The FN SCAR is my favorite sexy Rifle I love using it
If Kel-Tec made a Nerf gun.
Ah yes. The Shot by the cops special
If you take it in public maybe? Though you can get vinyl decals for it that are coloured.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT That was mostly a joke- Though that'd be a fun facebook page. "Nerf Guns you shouldn't take in public."
I wish it was in some brighter colors
You could paint it I guess
Sabre have just posted about some stick on decals you can get for it. Check out their Facebook page.
Is it only me that got the giggety referense when it was 69 meters
I wish i could afford it
The payment plan could help
@@BradleyPhillipsYT for me i only can use 100sgd to buy nerf per year
Just work in SG for one month. You can buy 6 of these. Average tech salary on the lowest mean is at $4500 SGd per month. And salary in Aussie and NZ is usually higher than SG.
@@Haoren85 i am a student who can't work yet and even with a salary i have to pay the bills and insurance in the future
ngl an exposed sear on something that powerful is a no from me dawg.
It's the same on the Caliburn
With the price of this blaster, you could probably buy a pistol
1000 fps
semi auto
Uses shells whils still smaller than half darts
Weighs less than a kilo
⚠This comment is intended to be satire⚠
That would be handy for players who don't call their hits
@@BradleyPhillipsYT the players who don't call their hits are literally dead💀
$850 is a little much... I could buy a used car and do it up for that price, or a bunch of tools, or nice clothes, or a bunch of nerf or dartzone pro blasters.... Depends on one’s disposable income I guess.
You could buy a bunch of Nerf or Dart Zone blasters but do you use all of them at once? Some people would prefer one better quality blaster than multiple lower quality that they swap between.
Wow! You can buy a used car with that?? In Singapore a car cost $150,000
@@Haoren85 A beat up used car yeah. $150,000? That’s in USD?? For a normal, middle class car or an expensive luxury vehicle?
@@notforsaletoday1895 for a normal Sedan. It’s very challenging to justify this price to fortunate states like yours and many others.
not gonna lie, it looks great! the FPS is epic, but damn the price though :'(
No offense to the creators, its a great product they've gone above & beyond! I mean I want one, but not willing to pay sooo much..
I feel for you guys, getting gel blasters banned.
Only a few weeks and we'll be back at it with combined gel ball x nerf games as people get licenses
absolutely amazing blaster. But for that price? Nah, if i wanted to chick that money into a single hobby item id be into airsoft.
If you have Airsoft as an option then do it
Lol "giggity"
it cost the same as entry level ar, expect nothing less.
noooo I was 9😭
$850 for shooting foams dart is just about the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard 😂
Well allow me to introduce you to something even dumber. www.xplorersg.com/COMPLETE_BLASTERS/cat1477122_2616791.aspx
@@BradleyPhillipsYT man, I had no clue they got so pricey. I’m over here thinking about $20 modded nerf guns😂😂
@@BradleyPhillipsYT jesus christ
I think it looks great, the price is a bit hard to swallow, but the build quality kind of justifies it.
Your videos are getting better and more pro each time mate, very thorough review that leaves no questions by the end, top work mate!
@@BradleyPhillipsYT i just sh!t my pants looking at that prices on that site..and i was thinking my nexus pro was expensive in the Netherlands, 100 euros
its more expensive then airsoft stuff
This just looks like a lazy team or cheapest design was used. If you can design a mould from the start make it look amazing and people wouldn't mind the price as it's sporting good at this level,and far from a toy. But it's just an oblong. Why isn't any rifling their own barrels with real steal tools. Would be so easy with brass or aluminium.
I think metal rifling has been tried and doesn't work as well as string
Unfortunately, metal rifling would also be illegal in countries where firearms and related parts are banned.
For that much money I would expect stainless steel instead aluminium on the parts. But its whatever I guess lol. Also at that price play paintball or airsoft for way less money, better accuracy, more range, more realistic..........just saying!
Airsoft is illegal, paintball is more expensive.
There are stainless steel, steel and aluminium parts
Do it then. :”D
Talk only :”D
Price of playing air soft I agree is less expensive but banned, So you basically stating invalid point.
Price of playing paintball is not as cheap, point totally invalid and also largely banned if played in the public.
So, not a single person remembers explorer.?.
Really don't care for the Blaster, TBH.
Was aimed to replace that. :”D
The price much lesser compare to that brand.
And most importantly it performs!
If you search Xplorer you'll find $2000 blasters 😂
So many ads dude
Just get TH-cam red or an adblocker lol
Hes not monetized recently youtube decided to put ads on smaller channels even witbout them profiting
@@Midnight890 haha sure mate does your dad work at TH-cam
how would you know that dude
@@ulose5909 no I’m just active with coding stuff lol
@@Midnight890 Hahaha dude you are crack up so you’ve just been pulling up lines of code from TH-cam and scrolling through them monitoring the amount of adds you can find. Yes mate sure
As cool as it is, it’s so blocky and ugly
Function over form for sure with this one
Multiple asthetics designs should be on their way to thingiverse for users to freely download.
Jesus christ!!! .... $850 for a Nerf Blaster lol
300 fps cap lol
....it looks flipping orsum.