@@themarchhare154 Movement isn't just "not that bad", it's the main draw. The ability to stick to monsters as they jump around the area is unparalleled.
13:40 - One of the reasons why Ranged Weapons feel so bad against Fatalis (and other master rank monsters) is because for some reason, Fatalis' fireballs are 80% physical damage. The one things gunners supposedly have, Elemental Resistance, just... is a lie against Fatalis.
lance is so fun.... you just poke these legendary monster with a thin poke stick... and they die from the poke and you parry them by waving at them lol
I've been thinking about giving lance a try lol I use charge blade a lot cause I love the guard points, figured I should use the weapon the has an actual counter instead for once lol
What pisses me off about the bow is that it is *barely* a "ranged" weapon. They didn't need to make you take so much damage. It is _so dangerous_ to play bow against any monster, but I just couldn't do it against Fatalis.
I think the first time I tried to play the game I decided to play Bow. I can't even describe just how long it took to beat Anjanath in Low Rank lol. Not only does the Bow have poor damage before you get a proper build together (and even if you have a proper build, you do need a lot of skill) but yea, I'd get hit so many friggin times man XD
The fact that there is severe damage falloff with the bow, yeah, makes it basically almost melee - you're just barely out of reach of the monsters, sliding just out of range each time they attack Meanwhile bowgun users are on the opposite side of the arena going brrrrrr
As a Bow Enthusiast, it being my main weapon alongside Swaxe, Bow recovery frames are deceptively long, I refused to play Bow against Fatalis, because you get stuck so easily with even basic attacks that last just a fraction of a second too long. And even normal hunts, if you compare the damage you take with an identical set but swap to a Blademaster weapon, it is immediately apparent the absolutely silly amount of extra damage you take, it is close to like double damage in my experience, I don't know the exact numbers. But as a Gunner, I'm usually at full health and seeing myself get hit for 75% of my HP when my buddies with melee weapons take like a fraction of that is wild. That being said, I still find Bow immensely satisfying to play, and will bring it to most hunts.
CB was my first main. I keep telling my friends that CB has a simple game play loop, but they don't believe me. Sure you have to learn the moves, but once you know them it's much less complicated to use than people make it out to be
Its really dumb but my favourite recent memory was being a Lance user matching up with 2 other Lance users (and an emotional support LBG user) against Saffi Jiva, and we just kept spamming "POKE POKE" in the chat, while poking over and over again. It just made me smile, man.
Fundamentally, im a longsword main. Its the only weapon my fragile young mind could comprehend back in 3 ultimate. Since then, I've grown and have been dabbling in many weapons ive never given the time of day before. My hats off to anyone who plays charge blade well 😅
@@MerakOz the exact same thing for me. I started playing longsword, bow and hammer, but when I left the game and came back I feel in love with charge blade.
@Kenshin-lw2dj totally fair, it's by far my pick for most complex weapon in the game. I have fun with it, but a normally 15 minute hunt will take me 30 as I whiff most of my attacks snd get knocked around 😅
CB is so fun tho. It's one of my mains. It seems complicated in the begining but after a few hunts u learn the basics. I just always keep my sword and shield charged at all times. The only low damage down time is the first 30s of a hunt after that all big numbers and big booms
@@TeraRyzaI'd love to hear your insights about the weapons against fatalis for all of them though. Maybe a shorts series, a cliff notes of each weapon you noticed? I just like hearing new ways of playing the weapons so I'd think that conversation would be fun. Especially since you didn't mention the glaive or hbg 😢 lol
Lance main checking in. My friends are always appreciative when I bring the Lance. I can stick to the monster and be a nuisance to it all while ignoring the hits from the other melee and not being flinched.
lance and hunting horn, my 2 main weapons since i started playing monster hunter with monster hunter world, it's nice that people talk about them in a good way
yeah, all ranged weapons get resistance to elemental damage but are weak to physical, whilst melee weapons are the other way around. Besides tips, i think the game only tells you what you're resistant at and not what you're weak to.
@@-Alter-not to mention almost all attacks have a physical property to it but not as many have an elemental property to it, so ranged users take a far bigger defensive nerf with that added on
@@-Alter- The game doesn't even tell u directly, u need to find it by random on the tips in loading screens Could've had a direct Def/Res stat change instead of a hidden modifier
@@zansolo5653 You can actually see what you're resisted to if you open the menu. On the right-hand side you can see "weapon type bonus" and it'll either say "Less Elem Damage Taken" or "Less Phys Damage Taken". Unless you were talking about weakness, then yeah, it's only seen through tips
and both Bowguns, SnS, twin blades, gunlance, switchaxe, longsword, and hammer. I think that covers all of the weapons he didn't cover (besides insect glaive). Although he did gloss over the two bowguns existence when talking about the bow by saying he "doesn't recommend ranged weapons on Fatalis"
Hi! 5:54 6k great sword main here! All since 3 ult I’ve been maining or side maining gw. Great sword as AMAZING. Chip damage. Sometimes the monster is too much for you. So you wanna focus on the weaker faster attacks until you find openings and SLAM HIM. It’s a dance. It’s a dance you don’t know but the monster does. Everytime you fight the monster you learn a few steps to the dance. Until you no damage the mofo. I have a tradition of no damaging zinogre cause I know the dance so good. It’s quite fun
Imagine, you liked Lance that much and you don't know the Power Guard Cancel which is something that makes it that much more fluid and offensive. The side to side flame for instance where you counter guard but the counter doesn't come out, that happens because there is too much knockback on the attack. If you however press the dodge button while you are in that heavy knock back state you go immediately into power guard (so you skip doing it the normal way of counter guard and then power guard) which means that even in those attacks that lock you in place you can still counter! And there is even more but I've already said too much. Glad you enjoyed it!
I fell in love with the lance after I got the fatalis lance. I finally understood what it meant to just block all damage and completely disregard the monster bs to just poke them to death
Honestly I admire people who can play every weapon effectively in this game. The only ones I've ever managed to master are sword and shield, dual blades and greatsword.
The hardest thing about fatalis is just surviving! Make sure you got defensive abilities on and the rest is easy, alot of people had trouble with fatalis even using their main weapons. Great video
Longtime lance player (2500+ hunts), I always love to see people discovering how much fun it is. I still struggle with certain monsters like alatreon and fatalis, so congrats on taking fatty on solo!
Thank you for validating all dozen of us HH mains out here. Fell in love with the hunting horn in 4u and never looked back. I think people really dont consider the thought and preparation we dooters do for every hunt. Our weapon cares not only for the damage numbers and type but the songs as well as not every horn has the same songs (i know ive picked a lower powered weapon numbers wise for somgs that greatly benefit my team such as wind negate for daora or ailment prevention for dread queen). My favorite memory from rise was when i jumped into a random lobby only to find 3 other HH mains and we all proceeded to massacre everything with the power of music...and bonk
As a greatsword main, I resonate your insight on the weapon, what I love about the weapon is the fact that it gives you more time to think on what move you should command for the greatsword for it is a high risk high reward of a weapon, and as a person who had only played freedom unite and portable 3rd on the mh series (never have the luxury to buy myself a pc), it showed to me that gs is a weapon that needs thinking, gut feeling, and observational skills
I have always told my friends that the Bow is a S tier weapon if you can play it to the S Tier standard. If you cant play it at a S level then it falls to whatever level you can play it.
I absolutely agree with "Just play the weapon how you want", spreadsheet gamers will tell you all of the optimal damage rotations but they refuse to tell you how to fit them into any matchup or get them to land consistently. like bow 2 charged shots and a power shot is good dps but if it forces you into a bad position or locks you into an animation that will get you hit then it ISN'T optimal. same with using fatalis weapons for every build, sure they're the highest raw damage but monster hunter has more than one way to slay a monster, and sometimes a good paralyze weapon in your 4 hunter party is a good enough window to dps a quarter of the monster's health with 0 risk. it's also a video game, and we play it to have fun at the end of the day. i think that's what's important about not having monster health bars, it doesn't matter how much dps we're dealing if we're having fun and the monster dies by the end of the hunt.
After taking 1 Year off from MHW i gotta say, you grew massively and am happy to be one of the earlier Subscribers furthermore its Insane how much you're Videos helped me so far, Great Work Tera!
My cousin and I are also 20 year MH veterans. We bought every system it came out for, from PS2 to PSP, 3DS and Wii. And thousands of hours on each game. You got my sub and hope to see you out in the WILDS! CB/GL main🤙🏿
Just completed solo fatalis with all weapons (with palico though) and I can say I also had the hardest time with Bow (then lance). You really learn how hard each weapon hits. HH wasnt hard but I sucked at keeping buffs up and went down to the wire LOL
Seems like you haven't known about Lance's Power Guard Cancel technique yet! It's similar to your normal Power Guard, but instead of Power Guarding before the impact like normal, you can enter Power Guard AFTER the impact as well. In the video I see you use Counter Guard to negate the heavy knockback. After that, try inputting Block + Dodge and you'll enter Power Guard even after the impact!
Adding to this, it's a nice technique because you can cancel heavy knockback attacks like bellyflop early and follow up with a powerful attack or more guard dashing, it improves the tempo of the weapon tremendously. anytime you're thinking "man, i just got hit and i can't do anything for a couple seconds" you could power guard cancel and get back into the fight
About GS, if you enjoy Draw attack style, i recommend to play with Frostcraft builds. Preferably AT velkhana, but even with alfa/beta velkhana is fine if you learn Fat attack patterns to hit and run tactic.
Im digging the Lance in MHW, I started using it in Sunbreak and became enamored by it over there. Same with HH and GL, I didn’t play them in Iceborne but used them a lot in Sunbreak.
Idk if id ever push myself to do something like this, but thus far, every new MH game I always picked 2 weapons to get good with. Mh3U: LS and HH Mh4U: IG and HBG World: HM and LBG Rise: ChB and Bow Its a fun way to play imo :3
Hello, Bow player since MHFU here. I fully understand your take on Bow on how it is a bit annoying that they have no defense and die on almost 0 hit. But as someone that have played bow my whole life, World and Rise is SUCH A GOOD upgrade, seriously. I'm just gonna list 2 important points here, Damage and Mobility. Bow pre-World era was an okay but not as good when we compare it to others, rather I felt like it is a Support DPS class. But when World came out, it changed everything, you have the option of chaining combos now for damage (+ finally you can cut tail with dragon piercer), and lastly mobility, having sidestep was huge, like really huge. Sure you can get punished by sidestepping range but the fact that it allows you to be in attack ready state immediately was enough. It saves so much time that I don't think I can go back to FU fighting against Shen Gaoren solo, seriously.
Currently getting back into MHW after having not played for quite some time (stopped a month or so after iceborne) and I'd forgotten just how brilliant the game is. Back before I stopped I primarily played lance and gunlance but since returning under been branching out more to try the other weapons. I've been trying to learn the Greatsword but I dunno, I found myself frequently wishing I was using the hammer. I've tried the ranged options and I was left rather underwhelmed. After all this I'm now back to the Sword and Shield which I don't think I've ever really appreciated. I'll admit I suck and skipping between weapons hasn't helped but I'm hoping I'll find my niche with the sword and board this time around.
Dude keep grinding. Ypur hard work will pay off in wilds you have such a good base. 10000 percent. The transmog videos you do no one is doing wilds will change transmogs in the game forever. Lets fucking go.
As a Charge Blade main and Greatsword enjoyer, Focus is my best friend. Also don't mind it with Hammer, on the rare occasion I play that. Nothing else really uses it, but those are enough to earn it a spot in my heart. Edit: I would also love to know how many people are aware of Charge Blade's guard slinger burst. It's pretty cool
I consider the Hunting Horn as a utility weapon more than a support weapon. One utility is support, yes. But heavy exhaust and good ko damage are also utility, along with the many non-traditional "support" buffs like stamina up, earplugs, and knockback resistance. I'd consider all of those more utility than support. Even its long range follows the utility mindset. Same with its versatility of the new echo notes to allow it to be an elemental/status weapon in Iceborne.
Great video! I'm a GS main, but when I first started World (my first-ever MH game......), the charge-blade was one of the 1st weapons I ever used because I thought it was just.. so damn cool~ I learned how to use it through a lot of trial and error. I've been wanting to give the Lance a try, and you've convinced me to do just that, so cheers~!
Started as a HH main in World (I'm always the support player of my friend group). I learned that the HH at base seems weaker than other weapons, but once you get your buffs rolling, they bring you up to par with the others. But I still argue the HH IS a support weapon, but it's not ONLY a support weapon. If you're in a group, you not only can contribute just as much as anyone else in terms of damage, but the buffs you give to the entire team can almost equal an entire extra hunter's worth of damage. Basically, the more people in your party, the STRONGER the HH becomes! Switched to CB in Rise because HH became freaking braindead to play. Hopefully it goes back to requiring at least SOME thought in Wilds.
I tend to think there's no true "support" in MHW. All weapons are just that, weapons. A true "support" is a proper Wide-Range build, which can be performed by all weapons (but preferrably with weapons having less sheathe time, on average). So, IMHO, HH songs are there to buff yourself first, your team receiving said buffs is incidental. Buffs are never a necessity, unless you're speed-running or some other specific case. You play to contribute damage, not to buff, otherwise the team as a whole will have a hard time hitting a decent DPS. It just happens that a part of HH's damage is distributed among players. Or at least that's how I face it. Massive cope, I know.
I had 2 full playthroughs and never touched Lance. I did a third character a while back and omg I mained Lance the whole story. It’s actually amazing and some of the moves makes you feel so strong (counter clutch claw)
I would define the lance with 3 words: Press the attack. Also against Fatalis specifically, it felt like the Charge Blade was one of the rougher weapons for sure. This is just an opinion of course, but from my observations... Can't really pull out the axe all that much, the head's hard to hit outside of 2 specific moves that you have to know how to bait, and the extremely slow sheathing time that you cannot improve through decos all mean that you really need to know Fatalis a lot more than with most other melee weapons.
Finally recognition that the bow is hard. It's my favourite weapon but if I just wanna lay back and take it easy, I just swap to a melee weapon I play a fraction of the time.
Your way of playing with CB is so strange. It's better play almost like a Lance. Guard attack and immediately answer to it! And Guard points not so hard to learn, you need only 2 of them.
GL player here, thought I’d put Fatalis tips here for GL players since there is not a lot out there. Wyrmstake cannon is a BEAST, try and find opportunities to do it as much as possible! Some free opportunities would be when fatty cones, gets enraged (just block the roar and stake em), or does a 360 spin breath attack. There are other opportunities but they aren’t free like these. Heavy ammo poke shoot build is viable with raging brach or Ala full dragon elm up. Raw damage max crit is the best build in my opinion. No fatty gear build I found the best for me was the Ala GL, a full Safi set, max crit, max evade distance/evade window, double health argument, max heal boost, max crit damage, tenderizer, and with some extra dragon elm up. You only ever use shells in this build to wyrmstake and you just play it like a slap lance build. You will be outputting tons of damage with your crit stakes and will be healthy with all the healing you get. I also recommend not using wyvern fire as stake does sooooo much damage.
Honestly GS has 2 core strategies in World: crit draw frostcraft, and tcs spam. For Fatalis you basically stand mid-range and bait cones which gives you a free level 3 draw attack. Focus is basically mandatory as the level 3 is so important for damage output. The Frostcraft build also can TCS efficiently since we can skip the second charge slash with the slinger. I play the most weapons in GU though(everything but Glaive, and Gunlance cause it sucks and by that I mean it's not worth the effort because of issues like launching teammates when shelling and heat gauge management). Gunlance in World has some silly things you can do with bombs and snowmen since basically your wyrmstake tries to attach to them but can't so multiple wyrmstakes attach to the monsters face and effectively 1-shot it, it's really funny
CB, SAED spam, is my main play style in MH. Impact CB to be specific. Impact damage does massive part damage and stun damage. It's the main phial type I play, impact that is.
I also started trying weapons I’ve never used (in all of the previous games of the series) fighting fatalis. And without a doubt lance was the one that shocked me the most in mhw… I freaking love lance now poke poke poke baby Hunting horn is cool I guess…….
Hi, GS main, for a long time I didn't really use Focus much. I'm weird with comfort skills, sometimes I feel like it's better for me to just learn "the hard way" and then I can adjust to easier timings, but man, Focus is a gamechanger for sure. Especially in Endgame IB where most of the time you have the room to fit almost any skill you want on what you want to build, so it doesn't even matter if you're prioritizing damage over comfort, just do BOTH LMAO I still GENERALLY prefer Focus 2, for whatever reason, over none at all or Focus 3, don't ask me why, but having Focus really opened my eyes a lot to how you can use this weapon more comfortable. I think Focus is unironically more important on draw attack charge builds as opposed to going all in on TCS, as while TCS is obviously slow, that hit and run playstyle can eke out a lot more damage if you have Focus 3 on a draw build instead of just tapping the draw attack. Maybe I'm a crackhead for thinking this way, but I think there's a nonzero chance somebody else out there feels the same way.
Man as a CB main, I feel the same way. I hate savage axe, and everyone is always raving about it. I had a really hard time with CB on Fatalis, and other weapons seemed to have an easier time. Might go GS main for Wilds, or at least as a secondary.
This video makes me so happy since I've been saying for a while that I think a very big part of the reason why lance is so unpopular is because It doesn't look like it does what it does. You look at lance and it seems like it will be a slow defensive weapon when in reality most of the time it is very fast and aggressive. So people who would enjoy it just don't try it and the people who try it end up disappointed since it isn't what they expected.
In a sense It's kinda opposite to the GS. The lance looks slow, defensive and methodical but it is very fest and very aggressive. The GS looks like an unga bunga incredible agressive weapon but it actually is very methodical and rewards planing and waiting for the right opportunity.
Idk if I'm considered a Veteran. I played the first game on PS2, and played Monster Hunter, MH G, MH2, MH3, MH4 Ultimate, MH Generations Ultimate, Stories, Stories 2, World, Iceborne, Rise, & Sunbreak. Some of these I only got to play while at a friend's house as I did not have a lot of Consoles as a kid.
Over 20 years I have at one point or another mained every melee weapon at one point or another and Capcom has really gotten balance really well in monster hunter with all of them being completely viable and good in the right hands. I can't really speak for the ranged weapons however, they are all definitely good but I just never really liked the gunner play style so I always end up dropping them part way through because I'm not having fun.
I like seeing both male and female armor versions so I always do two play throughs with the weapon types split randomly between them each gen. Consistently the only weapon I don’t like in multiple titles is bow… never did click with me
I gave up on mh the first time after a 3U demo. Came back for stories 2, immediately downloaded rise, now world is my home, but i made sure to go back for 3U and 4U (i love 3U so very much now)
7:25 for general hunts I don't use focus but for fatty and alatreon, focus has much better return on investment. Their openings are much shorter and tackling against them is risky since even with tackle most attacks are twoshots at best. Focus making it possible to charge an extra level or fit in a TCS leads to much more meaningful breakpoint differences against the two black dragons. I've been playing GS since freedom unite and back then, I tried to slot focus wherever I had space, but with the introduction of tackle in world it really isn't all that crucial against most monsters anymore. (and then there's the rajangs on the extreme end of small openings where even 3 levels of focus doesn't make much difference coz monke does what monke wants)
The thing with monster hunter is that each fight has its own weapon. For example, I prefer CB for alatreon and hammer for fatalis, dual blades for safi...
Your last words were exactly what happened to me. I started with Freedom Unite, didn't like it. Tried Tri bc a friend liked it. It clicked a little at the time. For some reason, when I played Portable 3rd, it really clicked and I can't stop playing Monster Hunter anymore.
As a bow main, my main problem with bow for fatalis is that his head isn't a weakpoint for pierce, so your weakness exploit is useless and you can't get the head breaks even with partbreaker
Gunlance is the best weapon against Fatalis.. since your main defensive is not your shield but your positioning. jumping around slaping his face then staking it is the best experience
II think, the one thing lance needs is less skill requirements. Make it o lance has guard upda and either guard or offensive guard built in and it'll be much more appealing to people that still want to try out every weapon.
I will be that guy... HH is a support weapon, but why is that a bad thing? Being a support weapon doesn't mean it's not viable, BUT it's basically the only weapon that has support utility as an integral part of the weapons. SnS can choose to make a wide range support build, but HH can't choose not to bring support utility and buffs...
Played theough the story with the bow, then started using hammer (most fun IMO) and started using longsword just so i can chop off tails a bit easier. When wilds comes out im going through the whole story with a hammer
I've also been playing Monster Hunter for years, since the PS2. And for those new players don't use fatalis as reference, is one of the hardest enemies in monster hunter but each weapon deals a type of damage and each one will perform better with some type of monsters, a hammer is good in a figgh with hard skins monsters but for others swords or guns can be better for example. just test all weapons and see for yourself what is your STYLE... is a coop game not PvP... dont focus on what is meta, focus on having fun. see you guys in wilds, peace
Great video. I wish my friend would try it again, but he said none of the weapons really stuck with him. I'm currently trying to solo fatalis with greatsword, so what you said definitely helps.
I did this challenge about a year and a half ago and I had such a hard time fighting fatalis with sns and hh. I would look up vids of people soloing fatalis with each weapon and try to replicate what they did. By the end of it I had a pretty good understanding of the weapons and how to use them.
dude as a hunting horn main. i am always surprised about how much range you get when you do shit like the wide ass swings. shits got such good movesets
"Is the Lance OFFENSIVE or DEFENSIVE?" Yes.
“Both. Both is good.”
If you can stay next to the monster it's incredible.
This really is the only answer. Movement isn't even all that bad once you got the move set down
@@themarchhare154 Movement isn't just "not that bad", it's the main draw. The ability to stick to monsters as they jump around the area is unparalleled.
Im a 20 year veteran too, and Im just now realising there are other weapons than the hammer, too bad they arent the hammer though.
Why poke with stick when you can B O N K with big rock
Well the hunting horn is just a longer hammer that plays music
Love hammer, but I've never smashed off a tail with one
Wait the tails fall off that's a good one unga bunga
@Swesher9 the greatsword is just a longsword but fatter...
13:40 - One of the reasons why Ranged Weapons feel so bad against Fatalis (and other master rank monsters) is because for some reason, Fatalis' fireballs are 80% physical damage. The one things gunners supposedly have, Elemental Resistance, just... is a lie against Fatalis.
Fatalis is straight up lacing his fireballs with boulders 💀
oh that makes more sense. i was so confused because i just assumed the fireballs would do elemental damage
As a bow main, I came for validation for my struggles and I got it.
me as a CB player
Please make the ridiculously long video about every single weapon for this challenge 😂
lance is so fun.... you just poke these legendary monster with a thin poke stick... and they die from the poke and you parry them by waving at them lol
*"thin"*
@@GeeGe. yeh.. I use the shara layered =D
I've been thinking about giving lance a try lol I use charge blade a lot cause I love the guard points, figured I should use the weapon the has an actual counter instead for once lol
@@daviddinges9168 you will not be disappointed...
imma stick to your face and there is nothing you can do about it
As soon as you dissed CB just a little bit, it sounded like someone entered your house, put a gun to your head, and forced you to praise it instead 🤣
Yeah I did
I was there along with the other CB user
I had a sniper watching him
What pisses me off about the bow is that it is *barely* a "ranged" weapon. They didn't need to make you take so much damage. It is _so dangerous_ to play bow against any monster, but I just couldn't do it against Fatalis.
I think the first time I tried to play the game I decided to play Bow. I can't even describe just how long it took to beat Anjanath in Low Rank lol. Not only does the Bow have poor damage before you get a proper build together (and even if you have a proper build, you do need a lot of skill) but yea, I'd get hit so many friggin times man XD
The fact that there is severe damage falloff with the bow, yeah, makes it basically almost melee - you're just barely out of reach of the monsters, sliding just out of range each time they attack
Meanwhile bowgun users are on the opposite side of the arena going brrrrrr
That might be why they gave it the ability to buff and heal in Rise, you need it with how much damage you end up taking.
I would have loved the ridiculously long video talking about every weapon lol
Maybe I'll make more content like this then!!
As a Bow Enthusiast, it being my main weapon alongside Swaxe, Bow recovery frames are deceptively long, I refused to play Bow against Fatalis, because you get stuck so easily with even basic attacks that last just a fraction of a second too long. And even normal hunts, if you compare the damage you take with an identical set but swap to a Blademaster weapon, it is immediately apparent the absolutely silly amount of extra damage you take, it is close to like double damage in my experience, I don't know the exact numbers. But as a Gunner, I'm usually at full health and seeing myself get hit for 75% of my HP when my buddies with melee weapons take like a fraction of that is wild. That being said, I still find Bow immensely satisfying to play, and will bring it to most hunts.
CB was my first main. I keep telling my friends that CB has a simple game play loop, but they don't believe me. Sure you have to learn the moves, but once you know them it's much less complicated to use than people make it out to be
Its really dumb but my favourite recent memory was being a Lance user matching up with 2 other Lance users (and an emotional support LBG user) against Saffi Jiva, and we just kept spamming "POKE POKE" in the chat, while poking over and over again.
It just made me smile, man.
updated weapon tier list: all weapons are S tier.
Fundamentally, im a longsword main. Its the only weapon my fragile young mind could comprehend back in 3 ultimate. Since then, I've grown and have been dabbling in many weapons ive never given the time of day before. My hats off to anyone who plays charge blade well 😅
In the beginning I used to play bow and Long sword, now I know the charge blade, it's became my favorite one though I don't master it hahahaha
I know how to play charge blade decently but it’s just not fun to me, just the playstyle isn’t for me.
@@MerakOz the exact same thing for me. I started playing longsword, bow and hammer, but when I left the game and came back I feel in love with charge blade.
@Kenshin-lw2dj totally fair, it's by far my pick for most complex weapon in the game. I have fun with it, but a normally 15 minute hunt will take me 30 as I whiff most of my attacks snd get knocked around 😅
CB is so fun tho. It's one of my mains. It seems complicated in the begining but after a few hunts u learn the basics.
I just always keep my sword and shield charged at all times. The only low damage down time is the first 30s of a hunt after that all big numbers and big booms
Now you have become a HUNTER. Master of all weapons.
Well maybe not master
We'll be a master one day 🫡
Always remember bruce lee:
I dont fear the man who trained 10000 different kicks. I fear the man who trained one kick 10000 times 😂
@@TeraRyzaI'd love to hear your insights about the weapons against fatalis for all of them though. Maybe a shorts series, a cliff notes of each weapon you noticed? I just like hearing new ways of playing the weapons so I'd think that conversation would be fun. Especially since you didn't mention the glaive or hbg 😢 lol
Not until u solo all with 14 weapon on blindfolded KEKW
@@TeraRyza You are a cataclysm ender, but we do not grant you the rank of master hunter.
Lance main checking in. My friends are always appreciative when I bring the Lance. I can stick to the monster and be a nuisance to it all while ignoring the hits from the other melee and not being flinched.
Really nailed lance on the head, nothing more satisfying than getting a monsters pattern down and keeping offensive guard up constantly
lance and hunting horn, my 2 main weapons since i started playing monster hunter with monster hunter world, it's nice that people talk about them in a good way
I had no idea I took more damage as a bow main. I just assumed I over thought it when I played melee weapons to spice things up
yeah, all ranged weapons get resistance to elemental damage but are weak to physical, whilst melee weapons are the other way around. Besides tips, i think the game only tells you what you're resistant at and not what you're weak to.
@@-Alter-not to mention almost all attacks have a physical property to it but not as many have an elemental property to it, so ranged users take a far bigger defensive nerf with that added on
@@-Alter- The game doesn't even tell u directly, u need to find it by random on the tips in loading screens
Could've had a direct Def/Res stat change instead of a hidden modifier
@@zansolo5653 You can actually see what you're resisted to if you open the menu. On the right-hand side you can see "weapon type bonus" and it'll either say "Less Elem Damage Taken" or "Less Phys Damage Taken". Unless you were talking about weakness, then yeah, it's only seen through tips
A perfect Fatalis run with lance with a meta Set feels absolutely glorious and you can deal insane amounts of damage
Charge blade was the first weapon i ever used. And i never looked back. It was too much fun to put down.
Insect Glaive, the forgotten red-headed step-child.. 😂
and both Bowguns, SnS, twin blades, gunlance, switchaxe, longsword, and hammer. I think that covers all of the weapons he didn't cover (besides insect glaive). Although he did gloss over the two bowguns existence when talking about the bow by saying he "doesn't recommend ranged weapons on Fatalis"
@@-Alter-hbg - "I cast shield!!! Ah fuck the chip damage!!!" At least that's my personal experience against fatalis with hbg XD
Until it comes to AT Velk, then everyone is jealous of how much of an easier time Glaive has 😂
Hi! 5:54 6k great sword main here! All since 3 ult I’ve been maining or side maining gw.
Great sword as AMAZING. Chip damage. Sometimes the monster is too much for you. So you wanna focus on the weaker faster attacks until you find openings and SLAM HIM.
It’s a dance. It’s a dance you don’t know but the monster does. Everytime you fight the monster you learn a few steps to the dance. Until you no damage the mofo.
I have a tradition of no damaging zinogre cause I know the dance so good. It’s quite fun
Imagine, you liked Lance that much and you don't know the Power Guard Cancel which is something that makes it that much more fluid and offensive.
The side to side flame for instance where you counter guard but the counter doesn't come out, that happens because there is too much knockback on the attack. If you however press the dodge button while you are in that heavy knock back state you go immediately into power guard (so you skip doing it the normal way of counter guard and then power guard) which means that even in those attacks that lock you in place you can still counter! And there is even more but I've already said too much. Glad you enjoyed it!
You SON OF A BITCH!!!! Thank you!!! I was using lance to mix things up recently and I forgot about the power guard! Oh this changes things lol
I fell in love with the lance after I got the fatalis lance. I finally understood what it meant to just block all damage and completely disregard the monster bs to just poke them to death
Honestly I admire people who can play every weapon effectively in this game. The only ones I've ever managed to master are sword and shield, dual blades and greatsword.
The hardest thing about fatalis is just surviving! Make sure you got defensive abilities on and the rest is easy, alot of people had trouble with fatalis even using their main weapons.
Great video
Longtime lance player (2500+ hunts), I always love to see people discovering how much fun it is. I still struggle with certain monsters like alatreon and fatalis, so congrats on taking fatty on solo!
Thank you for validating all dozen of us HH mains out here. Fell in love with the hunting horn in 4u and never looked back. I think people really dont consider the thought and preparation we dooters do for every hunt. Our weapon cares not only for the damage numbers and type but the songs as well as not every horn has the same songs (i know ive picked a lower powered weapon numbers wise for somgs that greatly benefit my team such as wind negate for daora or ailment prevention for dread queen). My favorite memory from rise was when i jumped into a random lobby only to find 3 other HH mains and we all proceeded to massacre everything with the power of music...and bonk
As a greatsword main, I resonate your insight on the weapon, what I love about the weapon is the fact that it gives you more time to think on what move you should command for the greatsword for it is a high risk high reward of a weapon, and as a person who had only played freedom unite and portable 3rd on the mh series (never have the luxury to buy myself a pc), it showed to me that gs is a weapon that needs thinking, gut feeling, and observational skills
the best explanation i have heard for the bow is that its a glass cannon, what i have learned from playing bow for like 400 hunts is to not get hit
I have always told my friends that the Bow is a S tier weapon if you can play it to the S Tier standard. If you cant play it at a S level then it falls to whatever level you can play it.
Mans did not use clutch claw shot on his greatsword build and it shows 😆
I absolutely agree with "Just play the weapon how you want", spreadsheet gamers will tell you all of the optimal damage rotations but they refuse to tell you how to fit them into any matchup or get them to land consistently. like bow 2 charged shots and a power shot is good dps but if it forces you into a bad position or locks you into an animation that will get you hit then it ISN'T optimal. same with using fatalis weapons for every build, sure they're the highest raw damage but monster hunter has more than one way to slay a monster, and sometimes a good paralyze weapon in your 4 hunter party is a good enough window to dps a quarter of the monster's health with 0 risk. it's also a video game, and we play it to have fun at the end of the day. i think that's what's important about not having monster health bars, it doesn't matter how much dps we're dealing if we're having fun and the monster dies by the end of the hunt.
As a lance and hunting horn main, it was nice to see them get some love! Good video
No no hunting horn is a support weapon, its a weapon that cann support bur a weapon first
Nah HH is a support weapon by just decimating the monster as Support
it's like u play pyke in League of Legends, you're ths support but it's you who kill the most
Hunting Horn Main: Im not here to support the violence. I am the violence!!
@@joshuafrazier3904 hell yeah!!!
@@Blaiyak168my team can't get hurt if the monster is dead. Just saying
After taking 1 Year off from MHW i gotta say, you grew massively and am happy to be one of the earlier Subscribers furthermore its Insane how much you're Videos helped me so far, Great Work Tera!
My cousin and I are also 20 year MH veterans. We bought every system it came out for, from PS2 to PSP, 3DS and Wii. And thousands of hours on each game. You got my sub and hope to see you out in the WILDS!
CB/GL main🤙🏿
Just completed solo fatalis with all weapons (with palico though) and I can say I also had the hardest time with Bow (then lance). You really learn how hard each weapon hits. HH wasnt hard but I sucked at keeping buffs up and went down to the wire LOL
6:18 "The great Sword is really Great!" :D
Seems like you haven't known about Lance's Power Guard Cancel technique yet!
It's similar to your normal Power Guard, but instead of Power Guarding before the impact like normal, you can enter Power Guard AFTER the impact as well.
In the video I see you use Counter Guard to negate the heavy knockback. After that, try inputting Block + Dodge and you'll enter Power Guard even after the impact!
*HOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH*
Adding to this, it's a nice technique because you can cancel heavy knockback attacks like bellyflop early and follow up with a powerful attack or more guard dashing, it improves the tempo of the weapon tremendously. anytime you're thinking "man, i just got hit and i can't do anything for a couple seconds" you could power guard cancel and get back into the fight
Hello Gala 🫶
I play Longsword and Greatsword primarily and focus is a must. Just a great quality of life skill for people who use gauge weapons.
About GS, if you enjoy Draw attack style, i recommend to play with Frostcraft builds.
Preferably AT velkhana, but even with alfa/beta velkhana is fine if you learn Fat attack patterns to hit and run tactic.
Literally the build he uses in the video, the frostcraft bar is well visible under his health bar
@@Jugement I know, but other people might not.
Im digging the Lance in MHW, I started using it in Sunbreak and became enamored by it over there. Same with HH and GL, I didn’t play them in Iceborne but used them a lot in Sunbreak.
Thankyou for validating my struggles as a bow main
Idk if id ever push myself to do something like this, but thus far, every new MH game I always picked 2 weapons to get good with.
Mh3U: LS and HH
Mh4U: IG and HBG
World: HM and LBG
Rise: ChB and Bow
Its a fun way to play imo :3
Hello, Bow player since MHFU here. I fully understand your take on Bow on how it is a bit annoying that they have no defense and die on almost 0 hit. But as someone that have played bow my whole life, World and Rise is SUCH A GOOD upgrade, seriously. I'm just gonna list 2 important points here, Damage and Mobility.
Bow pre-World era was an okay but not as good when we compare it to others, rather I felt like it is a Support DPS class. But when World came out, it changed everything, you have the option of chaining combos now for damage (+ finally you can cut tail with dragon piercer), and lastly mobility, having sidestep was huge, like really huge. Sure you can get punished by sidestepping range but the fact that it allows you to be in attack ready state immediately was enough. It saves so much time that I don't think I can go back to FU fighting against Shen Gaoren solo, seriously.
Currently getting back into MHW after having not played for quite some time (stopped a month or so after iceborne) and I'd forgotten just how brilliant the game is.
Back before I stopped I primarily played lance and gunlance but since returning under been branching out more to try the other weapons. I've been trying to learn the Greatsword but I dunno, I found myself frequently wishing I was using the hammer. I've tried the ranged options and I was left rather underwhelmed. After all this I'm now back to the Sword and Shield which I don't think I've ever really appreciated.
I'll admit I suck and skipping between weapons hasn't helped but I'm hoping I'll find my niche with the sword and board this time around.
Dude keep grinding. Ypur hard work will pay off in wilds you have such a good base. 10000 percent. The transmog videos you do no one is doing wilds will change transmogs in the game forever. Lets fucking go.
As a Charge Blade main and Greatsword enjoyer, Focus is my best friend. Also don't mind it with Hammer, on the rare occasion I play that. Nothing else really uses it, but those are enough to earn it a spot in my heart.
Edit: I would also love to know how many people are aware of Charge Blade's guard slinger burst. It's pretty cool
I consider the Hunting Horn as a utility weapon more than a support weapon. One utility is support, yes. But heavy exhaust and good ko damage are also utility, along with the many non-traditional "support" buffs like stamina up, earplugs, and knockback resistance. I'd consider all of those more utility than support. Even its long range follows the utility mindset. Same with its versatility of the new echo notes to allow it to be an elemental/status weapon in Iceborne.
Great video! I'm a GS main, but when I first started World (my first-ever MH game......), the charge-blade was one of the 1st weapons I ever used because I thought it was just.. so damn cool~ I learned how to use it through a lot of trial and error. I've been wanting to give the Lance a try, and you've convinced me to do just that, so cheers~!
Started as a HH main in World (I'm always the support player of my friend group). I learned that the HH at base seems weaker than other weapons, but once you get your buffs rolling, they bring you up to par with the others. But I still argue the HH IS a support weapon, but it's not ONLY a support weapon. If you're in a group, you not only can contribute just as much as anyone else in terms of damage, but the buffs you give to the entire team can almost equal an entire extra hunter's worth of damage. Basically, the more people in your party, the STRONGER the HH becomes!
Switched to CB in Rise because HH became freaking braindead to play. Hopefully it goes back to requiring at least SOME thought in Wilds.
Good for us dooters they confirmed hunting horn is going back to its world state with some nifty changes on top
I tend to think there's no true "support" in MHW. All weapons are just that, weapons. A true "support" is a proper Wide-Range build, which can be performed by all weapons (but preferrably with weapons having less sheathe time, on average). So, IMHO, HH songs are there to buff yourself first, your team receiving said buffs is incidental. Buffs are never a necessity, unless you're speed-running or some other specific case. You play to contribute damage, not to buff, otherwise the team as a whole will have a hard time hitting a decent DPS. It just happens that a part of HH's damage is distributed among players. Or at least that's how I face it.
Massive cope, I know.
I had 2 full playthroughs and never touched Lance. I did a third character a while back and omg I mained Lance the whole story. It’s actually amazing and some of the moves makes you feel so strong (counter clutch claw)
by god, I came here for a ridiculously long video on all the weapons and by god I'll get it!
I would define the lance with 3 words: Press the attack.
Also against Fatalis specifically, it felt like the Charge Blade was one of the rougher weapons for sure. This is just an opinion of course, but from my observations... Can't really pull out the axe all that much, the head's hard to hit outside of 2 specific moves that you have to know how to bait, and the extremely slow sheathing time that you cannot improve through decos all mean that you really need to know Fatalis a lot more than with most other melee weapons.
Finally recognition that the bow is hard. It's my favourite weapon but if I just wanna lay back and take it easy, I just swap to a melee weapon I play a fraction of the time.
Your way of playing with CB is so strange. It's better play almost like a Lance. Guard attack and immediately answer to it! And Guard points not so hard to learn, you need only 2 of them.
GL player here, thought I’d put Fatalis tips here for GL players since there is not a lot out there.
Wyrmstake cannon is a BEAST, try and find opportunities to do it as much as possible! Some free opportunities would be when fatty cones, gets enraged (just block the roar and stake em), or does a 360 spin breath attack. There are other opportunities but they aren’t free like these.
Heavy ammo poke shoot build is viable with raging brach or Ala full dragon elm up.
Raw damage max crit is the best build in my opinion.
No fatty gear build I found the best for me was the Ala GL, a full Safi set, max crit, max evade distance/evade window, double health argument, max heal boost, max crit damage, tenderizer, and with some extra dragon elm up. You only ever use shells in this build to wyrmstake and you just play it like a slap lance build. You will be outputting tons of damage with your crit stakes and will be healthy with all the healing you get.
I also recommend not using wyvern fire as stake does sooooo much damage.
Honestly GS has 2 core strategies in World: crit draw frostcraft, and tcs spam. For Fatalis you basically stand mid-range and bait cones which gives you a free level 3 draw attack. Focus is basically mandatory as the level 3 is so important for damage output. The Frostcraft build also can TCS efficiently since we can skip the second charge slash with the slinger. I play the most weapons in GU though(everything but Glaive, and Gunlance cause it sucks and by that I mean it's not worth the effort because of issues like launching teammates when shelling and heat gauge management). Gunlance in World has some silly things you can do with bombs and snowmen since basically your wyrmstake tries to attach to them but can't so multiple wyrmstakes attach to the monsters face and effectively 1-shot it, it's really funny
in Wilds i’ll definitely go Hunting Horn with a pocket Light Bowgun. just imagine the flexibility
CB, SAED spam, is my main play style in MH. Impact CB to be specific. Impact damage does massive part damage and stun damage. It's the main phial type I play, impact that is.
The difference between a good charge blade player and a great one is being good with greatsword
I also started trying weapons I’ve never used (in all of the previous games of the series) fighting fatalis. And without a doubt lance was the one that shocked me the most in mhw… I freaking love lance now poke poke poke baby
Hunting horn is cool I guess…….
Hi, GS main, for a long time I didn't really use Focus much. I'm weird with comfort skills, sometimes I feel like it's better for me to just learn "the hard way" and then I can adjust to easier timings, but man, Focus is a gamechanger for sure. Especially in Endgame IB where most of the time you have the room to fit almost any skill you want on what you want to build, so it doesn't even matter if you're prioritizing damage over comfort, just do BOTH LMAO
I still GENERALLY prefer Focus 2, for whatever reason, over none at all or Focus 3, don't ask me why, but having Focus really opened my eyes a lot to how you can use this weapon more comfortable. I think Focus is unironically more important on draw attack charge builds as opposed to going all in on TCS, as while TCS is obviously slow, that hit and run playstyle can eke out a lot more damage if you have Focus 3 on a draw build instead of just tapping the draw attack. Maybe I'm a crackhead for thinking this way, but I think there's a nonzero chance somebody else out there feels the same way.
Man as a CB main, I feel the same way. I hate savage axe, and everyone is always raving about it. I had a really hard time with CB on Fatalis, and other weapons seemed to have an easier time. Might go GS main for Wilds, or at least as a secondary.
"What is the Lance, a defensive, or offensive weapon?"
The correct answer is movement weapon.
This video makes me so happy since I've been saying for a while that I think a very big part of the reason why lance is so unpopular is because It doesn't look like it does what it does. You look at lance and it seems like it will be a slow defensive weapon when in reality most of the time it is very fast and aggressive. So people who would enjoy it just don't try it and the people who try it end up disappointed since it isn't what they expected.
In a sense It's kinda opposite to the GS. The lance looks slow, defensive and methodical but it is very fest and very aggressive. The GS looks like an unga bunga incredible agressive weapon but it actually is very methodical and rewards planing and waiting for the right opportunity.
How about a list of All the Sets you played on every Weapon in this challenge?
Pretty please?
Well I do want to make a Best Build for Every Weapon video!!
@@TeraRyza well that works too thank you
@@TeraRyzayes please
I started with unite and never stopped lol. I've recently come to being a lance main and enjoy the rhythm of catching counters
Idk if I'm considered a Veteran. I played the first game on PS2, and played Monster Hunter, MH G, MH2, MH3, MH4 Ultimate, MH Generations Ultimate, Stories, Stories 2, World, Iceborne, Rise, & Sunbreak.
Some of these I only got to play while at a friend's house as I did not have a lot of Consoles as a kid.
Over 20 years I have at one point or another mained every melee weapon at one point or another and Capcom has really gotten balance really well in monster hunter with all of them being completely viable and good in the right hands. I can't really speak for the ranged weapons however, they are all definitely good but I just never really liked the gunner play style so I always end up dropping them part way through because I'm not having fun.
Where is my UNGGA BUNGGA bros?
I like seeing both male and female armor versions so I always do two play throughs with the weapon types split randomly between them each gen. Consistently the only weapon I don’t like in multiple titles is bow… never did click with me
I gave up on mh the first time after a 3U demo. Came back for stories 2, immediately downloaded rise, now world is my home, but i made sure to go back for 3U and 4U (i love 3U so very much now)
7:25 for general hunts I don't use focus but for fatty and alatreon, focus has much better return on investment. Their openings are much shorter and tackling against them is risky since even with tackle most attacks are twoshots at best. Focus making it possible to charge an extra level or fit in a TCS leads to much more meaningful breakpoint differences against the two black dragons.
I've been playing GS since freedom unite and back then, I tried to slot focus wherever I had space, but with the introduction of tackle in world it really isn't all that crucial against most monsters anymore.
(and then there's the rajangs on the extreme end of small openings where even 3 levels of focus doesn't make much difference coz monke does what monke wants)
The thing with monster hunter is that each fight has its own weapon. For example, I prefer CB for alatreon and hammer for fatalis, dual blades for safi...
As a long gunlance player I'm a HUGE focus enjoyer
Your last words were exactly what happened to me. I started with Freedom Unite, didn't like it. Tried Tri bc a friend liked it. It clicked a little at the time. For some reason, when I played Portable 3rd, it really clicked and I can't stop playing Monster Hunter anymore.
Ive always tried to "main" a different weapon for every game.
Tri: hammer
GenU: greatsword
World: bow
Iceborn: lance
Rise: gunlance
As a bow main, my main problem with bow for fatalis is that his head isn't a weakpoint for pierce, so your weakness exploit is useless and you can't get the head breaks even with partbreaker
Gunlance is the best weapon against Fatalis.. since your main defensive is not your shield but your positioning. jumping around slaping his face then staking it is the best experience
Great sword main here, crit draw is definitely the way to go against fatalis.
There he is, we finally found him John Monster Hunter
As a charge blade main, I can confirm that fighting fatalis with it requires an unusual playstyle
II think, the one thing lance needs is less skill requirements.
Make it o lance has guard upda and either guard or offensive guard built in and it'll be much more appealing to people that still want to try out every weapon.
Dude the great sword and lance make this fight trivial.
I will be that guy... HH is a support weapon, but why is that a bad thing? Being a support weapon doesn't mean it's not viable, BUT it's basically the only weapon that has support utility as an integral part of the weapons. SnS can choose to make a wide range support build, but HH can't choose not to bring support utility and buffs...
Played theough the story with the bow, then started using hammer (most fun IMO) and started using longsword just so i can chop off tails a bit easier.
When wilds comes out im going through the whole story with a hammer
I've also been playing Monster Hunter for years, since the PS2. And for those new players don't use fatalis as reference, is one of the hardest enemies in monster hunter but each weapon deals a type of damage and each one will perform better with some type of monsters, a hammer is good in a figgh with hard skins monsters but for others swords or guns can be better for example. just test all weapons and see for yourself what is your STYLE... is a coop game not PvP... dont focus on what is meta, focus on having fun. see you guys in wilds, peace
Lance main here. Yep, our defense so good we can afford to go all in offensive 100% of the time
i loved the bow in base world. i used it to get my through at-xeno. it was a godsend at the time. dragon pierce is what its called i believe
Great video. I wish my friend would try it again, but he said none of the weapons really stuck with him. I'm currently trying to solo fatalis with greatsword, so what you said definitely helps.
I started back on PS2 I understand the pain of the old games now you must solo at valk no fatalis weapons
I did this challenge about a year and a half ago and I had such a hard time fighting fatalis with sns and hh. I would look up vids of people soloing fatalis with each weapon and try to replicate what they did. By the end of it I had a pretty good understanding of the weapons and how to use them.
i wish the video was an hour long
Well then I may have to get to work cris XD
dude as a hunting horn main. i am always surprised about how much range you get when you do shit like the wide ass swings. shits got such good movesets
I've just noticed Mori Calliope poster and was unexpectedly happy about it
Respect to the freedom days. You should definitely pick up MH on ps2. That is truly the clunkfest to end all festivals of clunk.
I use focus. Getting that TCS in faster definitely speeds up hunts especially for tempered and at hunts