Tesla Cybertruck Takes On The Rustic Ring, Our Extreme Towing Challenge
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 มี.ค. 2024
- Kyle and Alyssa slap on just about 10,000lbs on the back of our Tesla Cybertruck Cyberbeast and head out for the first running of our Rustic Ring towing series. We'll be running every EV truck and SUV through this challenge so stay tuned!
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Honestly, if I were driving along a random Colorado mountain road, came around a corner and saw a Cybertruck pulling a Rivian, I'd think 'That must be Kyle.'
Only he would have $200k in vehicles and drive /tow them up these roads.
23:50 "If anything breaks, we are walking back"
Kyle completly forgetting that he is towing 10,000 lbs which contains a Rivian, also called a car. lol
Haha. I didn’t think of that either.
One way to not get stuck is to tow another truck that can tow your primary truck if it breaks. Cutesy of the Department of Redundancy Department.
It's entertainment lol, 😮
@@andrasbiro3007
If the secondary truck breaks, you can put a golf cart on its bed for traveling to the nearest civilization to get a tow truck towing your truck towing your truck. Lol.
he said if the trailers goes off (aka the rivian would roll down and be totalled) and the cybertruck breaks
Kyle you should take a regular gas half ton with the same load to test those trucks thermal/fuel performance aswell just as baseline to compare to. I know TFL truck has had a couple trucks overheat on their max towing tests.
Yes, this would be a good point.
They don’t cool the massive amount of waste heat as effectively doing high load 20mpg rough road towing
Yes. Like he said
CT’s weight and payload capacity is firmly in 3/4 ton category.
It looks like f150 max tow is payload 3315 and towing is at 14,000lb. It is comparable with gas 1/2 tons with CT at 2500 payload and 11,000 towing@@jabroni6199
@@jabroni6199but slightly smaller (a few inches) than f150 so powerful/strong but smaller package
I don’t think anyone appreciates how STEEP these roads are! I’ve had some scary encounters and gotten stuck on these in both mud and snow. Props for taking it on with a trailer.
Well to be fair, he did mention it about 48 times, so I feel like I have a good understanding.
The Ike Gauntlet and now The Rustic Ring from the most EV knowledgeable channel on TH-cam. Love it!
I hope the Rustic Ring becomes a staple test for all new EV trucks for decades to come. Great job!
I love Alyssa's comments. Kyle provides all the minute details, while Alyssa provides the common sense input.
huh?
Nice way to call her dump
They shouldn't detect and render the trailer as a flickering object in the minds eye view. It should either show an attached simulated trailer or nothing at all. Cybertruck also needs Starlink built in or at least as an upgrade.
So much time and effort go into these episodes. Thank you!
Your welcome
This is a great idea. True comparison between all the trucks.
Awesome test!
Two suggestions:
1) We need a ICE F-150 for reference against all these EV trucks.
2) Detect the temperature of the brakes at two locations along the route.
Love this new towing route. Need to keep this going with other vehicles
Dude! My wife said she was driving by someone with a Cybertruck in FoCo the other day and the truck looked BRUTAL in person. Super stoked you got one and can't wait for more content!!
Saw a couple here in Texas near Houston area..they certainly stand out lol it's like CGI or something
Get one*
@@roodick85 there's a big different between seeing it on the internet and seeing it in person
Brilliant review, and the scenery didn't do any harm😂
Live the added soundtrack. Nice job!
This test route is amazing and made for both hardcore evaluation and amazing footage! The music and editing on this was pretty cool too.
Can't wait to see how the lightning compares.
I really appreciate the attention to detail around the physics of towing. Important stuff most reviews neglect to factor in
You should also run this circuit with an ICE pick up for comparison.
One should never test ice vehicles against electric no comparison only similarity ice vehicles emit DEADLY carbon monoxide
Hi Kyle, I love this Rustic Ring test! This has everything in it I like to see in a towing test. I can't wait for the comparison with the Rivian!
Love this challenge! Can’t wait to see the spreadsheet comparison!
Great test cycle. Love it.
Man, beautiful out there. You have so much space in the States.
not sure I love how that front is secured on the Rivian but a cool test indeed, I love it.
I love the Rustic RING but wish you showed us some of the battery and motor temperatures.
With only one software update I am sure things will get better. The Riven has been out for years and has had many updates. I am excited to get mine and I have driven that road many times with my diesel. I only need to tow less than 100 miles a day so should be great! Thank you for sharing!
10,000 is the perfect weight for this. Cant wait to see the silverado. It would be cool to compare a v nosed enclosed trailer to the open ones.
Alyssa you are a hero! Thanks for all your hard work to get us this amazing footage!
Very nicely done! Love your channel!
Great video guys, Colorado looks absolutely stunning.
Awesome video Kyle. Nice to see the truck working hard. This is a interesting test for the cybertruck ❤
a new OOS challenge!!! I couldnt be happier.
That flickering in the screen on cybertruck from it trying to make sense od the trailer behind would drive ne nuts
Can't wait to see the Rivian tow the Tesla/F-50/Hummer on the same road test, and vis-versa👍👍👍
This was such a cool test, and I really like how accurate the arrival estimation was with the CT. Not a ran of the limited regen,that's a bit strange. Great video idea Kyle,will be interesting to see other trucks do.
Cool video. I like that the test really taxes regen on the trucks. I think another good test would be distance towing that requires 2 charges on the way to a destination and 2 charges on the return to the starting point as that is likely how many electric truck users will use their trucks. Hook to their camper, boat or utility trailer, tow 300-400 miles one way and then return after a weekend of fun or day of work. This would definitely test thermal capability of the trucks if done during hot summer months which is when most people vacation and travel.
That is my favorite one of you guys's videos yet
Great video in all aspects. Thank you so much!
What an incredible new test and video. One thing that also struck me was the thickness of the front seats in the Cybertruck. Around 59:00 there are side views of Kyle in the driver's seat and I was gobsmacked by the seat thickness. What a throne. I assume it must be very comfortable.
That flashing "trailer" on the screen was driving me nuts, hopefully they address that soon. Also, I can't believe you can use the screen to do all of those adjustments while driving. I don't even like to ever touch my phone on a holder more than to quickly stab at it to take a call or something, no way I could use a screen to adjust braking, etc, as it would not be safe.
Kyle is a thousand things unsafe Aint one
That flickering trailer in the HUD: Jiminy Christmas. It's in tow mode, just show it's there, omg
Wait a few more weeks and you can do the Tesla Cybertruck rusty ring !
Great test, thanks again for the hard work.
This is the weight I'll be towing when I upgrade to CT and a heavier airstream. When I tow my airstream, I find a charger I can drive on the other side of the median and gorilla style it without unhitching. It works most of the time. But great vid, Kyle!! You're the best.
Absolutely great idea.... Immediately sub'ed
Also a minor item, but the UI with the trailer flickering consistently is annoying and potentially distracting. I hope that gets fixed in an update
Great filming Alyssa
Thank you for being courteous and pulling over for people to pass. I can't tell you how many times I've been driving through our beautiful mountains and canyons of Colorado and some chuckle-head towing something going 20 mph below the speed limit passing pull outs to allow others to pass. Its infuriating.
Awesome video, Kyle! Now I really want to come up north and drive the 'Rustic Ring'! But rustic is 5 hrs from me, so it's something I'll have to save for a 2-day trip. Maybe later this spring.
Not ideal for testing to pull over but yeah.
Gonna dig this testing!
Great test! Can't wait to see other trucks!
If regen is perfect, it should be identical to charging curve. You should have ~70kW regen at ~70% ... 150kW at 40%.
PS: Sandy found the additional high voltage plug on the battery pack, where the range extender will connect.
I wonder if the extended battery pack will allow for more regen? I’m thinking it will.
Kyle! One tool that has brought so much more ability to track elevation, pitch, roll, weather, and safety, is the Garmin Tread Overland. It has been clutch when out here in the PNW area National Forests. I think it would be a big help in measuring; for your Ring especially. Great video!
Wow Kyle….that’s the best road trip I’ve ever been on with you, definitely coming over to do that loop😀
What a great Test! THX for that and greating from Austria
great video .. i was so worried for you a few times .. be safe.
Do a tow test with an APTERA behind the truck to see how low the Watt-hours per mile can go for towing. I want Aptera to build aerodynamic trailers for e-towing.
Amazing test Kyle. Kudos to you and your team.
The huge battery in the Silverado EV may be the best for longer range towing and soon it will be able to use the V3 Tesla Supercharger network.
The Silverado EV probably would suffer from thermal issues in this test
@NextGenEvs I don't think so, but I don't know either. Time will tell. It's about time for GM to get their act together.
Always appreciate the solid nerdy content -from a fellow nerd. :)
Nah don’t fall for the nerd tag used by half wits as an insult as they don’t understand wtf your on about. Oh shut up you nerd. = I’m embarrassed not understanding …people often don’t know they need to know this shit buying a car
Do you mean oways? 😂
Very nice opening edit guys!
Excellent demonstration of “Colorado Courtesy” by pulling over on Mountain roads letting faster traffic go by …defiantly a worth while test loop …Having hauled 17K lb trailers up those roads... even a lightly loaded trailer on those roads can get very challenging very quickly …you likely had the most ideal traffic and road conditions you will see on that loop! Well Done!
One thing I would love to see is backing the trailer into a tight area and/or a long reverse push on a dead end road. Unfortunately,in real life, that happens Running and pushing backwards works everything differently. I really love the Rustic Ring. I think I need a tee shirt!
Considering this is really pushing the trucks to its (rated) limits, it seemed to perform decently. Seems like you need to have good trailer brakes, though.
This was a very good informative video and I thought the music that you had with it was quite good as well thank you
Yeah, I liked the music too.
This is the only channel that I would watch on TH-cam with this many ads.
Having an OBD2 with the regen and accelerator kW would be great info to have.
Cyber truck needs one of those wind deflectors that big rigs have so that air goes up and over the load instead of hitting the load and trailer hard
funny you mention that 'cause engineering explained just put out a video about the cybertruck and towing, where he talks about how the aerodynamics of the truck itself can actually make towing more efficient
The trailer needs the deflector
At the speeds obtained in this towing test, wind drag was minimal. Wind drag in the 20 to 45 mph speeds primarily operated in in this test for all practical purposes have almost no measurable effect on efficiency. You’ve got a wind slippery cyber truck towing a low profile flatbed auto trailer which is primarily in the cyber trucks slip stream, thus for all intents and purposes is taking advantage of the draft suction behind the truck with a very wind slippery Rivian truck sitting on it. Adding air deflectors would only increase frontal area square footage and add MORE wind drag, thus consuming more horsepower to maintain the same speeds.
ROFL that would kill any efficiencies gained from aerodynamics...
So this is what y'all were doing yesterday. I like the Rustic ring route. Uncle Danny and the three Amigos approve! 😜
Ok now that I've watched the entire video I realize this was probably the day before yesterday and y'all were probably doing the I-70 test yesterday. Which is what led to me needing to feed/play with the doggos. I really liked this video though. Good job you two! ⚡⚡
You should do this route with an ICE F-150.
Great video, awesome scenery and the best music filler 🫶🏻
Seems like the thermals did so good. I’m glad u started the new challenge w they cybertruck
Nice way to one-up Andre and the TFL guys with their Ike Challenge. ;) You should invite them up for a drive!
Great video and I love the creation of the Rustic Ring.
In addition to towing the “Ring” perhaps just drive it unladed for a comparison of EV thermal management. For example I’d be interested to see how a R1T quad motor compares to a R1T dual motor performance.
One last thought, consider removing aero wheel covers for towing where friction brakes will be a necessity.
Thanks, Kyle! So it looks like about 140 miles range while towing under those mixed conditions.
hmm.. thats not as terrible as i was expecting
@@websitemartian Speed is really going to be the biggest factor. All freeway, and you can easily cut another 30 to 40 miles off that.
Not bad at all.
Another great video Kyle. You asked for ideas on testing. It seems like you want to push things to see if they fail (I would cal that the Macro testing). We are requesting to test the micro testing, "How do they compare in city/urban dwelling. Which one is most efficient, Which regens the best, Compare 1 pedal driving, are there heat issue for people use them for delivery all day? And any other ideas you and the crew can think of. Thanx for the insight.
Would love to see how different trims for EV trucks try this! Particularly Rivian quad motor vs dual motor (and same with cybertruck tri-motor vs dual motor).
Just remember that the regen braking is very similar to fast charging from the batteries perspective. If you are braking hard like in this case you could be putting a couple hundred kWs of energy into the pack and if you SOC is too high then you are definitely going to damage the cells. Also the 4680 is still a pretty young platform and they aren’t as confident with these high performance edge cases and would definitely air on the conservative BMS tuning to ensure the long term longevity of these early cells. Really for optics and customer experience.
Awesome video! Great idea!
Kudos to Melissa...What a trooper!
Allisa is th humble unsung hero of out of specs , greatly appreciated by all
Vanessa did awesome.
Marissa is great
The best content.. would love to see more tests like this..
Great test! You should put the straps crossed at the front an rear. This minimzes sideway movement.
Extreme is right! Thanks Kyle and Alyssa (and fiber guys on telephone poles). Hope you can repeat this test with the range extender when available. Looking forward to seeing Cybertrucks in Canada soon too.
Currently I have an F350 and while I don’t usually tow 10,000lbs I would be curious to see my truck (or similar model) perform the Rustic ring! Great content and can’t wait for my CyberTruck!
Awesome, I truly enjoyed this one. Looking forward to seeing Tesla updates over the next year.
This is a great test, looking forward to these. If you could find a close to 10,000 pound Travel Trailer that would be an awesome test of weight and the worst arrow.
To keep it from being a race but keep some track of time ... Round it to the nearest ten minutes.. like 3:40 start to 5:10 end ... That keeps it from being competitive but still gives some datat about when and how long
Great video review of towing a big load with the Cybertruck. That's one point but another is the country side is better than spectacular. You guys do great work generally but I found this video especially interesting. Congratulations and more power to you and yours.
kippy
Adventurous and exciting to watch.
Also for the regen breaking semis have to slow down so the engine brake has a chance to hold.. so try the down hills slower and see if it can hold. would be epic if tesla should show like a heat map and such so you can see what fell short for the cooling,, also is the cyber beast like the plaid and lightning.. in the regard of extra cooling systems.
Yey, chart all the critical data, pros & cons, pucker factors, etc.
Thanks for putting EVs through the ring(er) so everyone (including all the automakers) get a better understanding of how these all compare. The facts are essential to help us all continue to advance the technology to enable an acceleration to transition...
The music up the rustic ring was awesome. A few more out of vehicle drive by shots would give us perspective on how steep the gravel road is...
I always liked that your videos didn't have clunky, out of place music in them. Would really prefer that you keep it mostly that way!
Man this is going to be fun. This test will be meant for the Z71/AT4 versions of the GM trucks along with the Tremor on Ford Side once those finally get debuted.
This was great information, if you can, the same test run on a Cybertruck AWD would be of great interest. I wonder if the AWD version would reduce the front wheels from spinning since the power (I think) is applied differently. Again thank you, it’s great information.
You’re gonna need dynamic braking on those EV trucks for down hill runs like locomotives. 😊 Great video, can’t wait to see the Silverado 4WT running this “ring”.
I loved the new Rustic Ring. Since the weight & the route will be similar, the measurable variable will be amount of power used on each vehicle. That will be the measurable data point. Please continue to bring us your subjective views on how each vehicle handles the route.
Something you need to make sure of while descending mountain grades (especially without regenerative or engine braking) is that you not only keep your brake temperatures under control to maintain a safe speed, but also have enough brake reserve left to complete an emergency stop.
I used to haul old truck and trailer combinations over the rockies. With older 18-wheelers and older pickups with heavy trailers, there is only enough braking ability to complete a single emergency stop from 60 to 70 mph...
Great test. Can't wait to see the other trucks as well. Will be great to see an ICE truck on this route as a comparison..
Certainly a tougher towing test than TFL's
man he loves that hoodie he wears it every day lol
He's like Michael knight, and that leather jacket. He even wears that hoodie in the summer 😭
An dats fine long as it don’t smell too much ha
Yeah Colorado is definitely a hoodie place. It usually gets too warm for a jacket during the day
For real range tests, you must control for the pack temperature. Your lack of regen may be due to low cell temperature. Use pre-conditioning or a heated garage prior to the test. The heat from the motors was sunk into the pack and it still wasn't enough to warm it up.
Kyle endlessly talks about battery pre conditioning I’d imagine he did this for the test.
This was more enjoyable than watching much of Netflix’s content
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awesome test, very much looking fwd to the other trucks on the RR! maybe you could also do the trip with an ice truck for efficiency comparison?
Also would love to see you guys do it with a dual motor CT since its less HP (and possibly what I might get in a year or so 😆)
Thanks - impressive EXTREME test. I honestly think this test is the toughest that anyone could ever imagine.
For all those of us in THE REST OF THE WORLD, ten thousand pounds is a 4.5 tonne towing load.