By far the best EV channel on all of the tubes.! Also, you guys gave me a great suggestion and I found a Ford lightning pro with very few miles on it for 36 grand. Taking delivery of it next week! I can’t wait and I’m gonna be doing some very specific testing Using it as a contractor and for camping and we’re gonna be putting a special hard sided pop top camper on it. I’ll take all the suggestions I can get from Kyle! Thanks and keep up the great work!
Once the range extender is installed, it will not be removable without a full day of service. There will be plumbing and high voltage electrical in addition to it being very securely bolted in. I still don’t believe that this will ever be real. It is just not the Tesla way.
I can see it being split into multiple less heavy pieces for easier handling and act as a home battery when not installed in the Truck. But that’s too much of wishful thinking 😅
I agree that the range extender will never happen. I think it was just used to save face when they didn’t meet the promised 500 miles. Tesla could kind of say they could give the range until some time passed and people got used to reality. I think it’s more likely that they’ll just make a truck that comes with a bigger battery if the Cybertruck remains popular enough.
@@Molishiousit will probably for sure happen but not for long because tesla wont be constrained on 4680 for ever. Sooner than later they will just greatly increase the size of the actual battery pack. Tesla knew every single tesla the first year would sell regardless of range could have been 100miles and they would have sold all of them. So lets say the end of this year they offer bigger batter packs on CT then they only have to offer the range extender to the trucks that were delivered in 2024 maybe what a potential of 40K units or something. Maybe only 5% of those even want it. So they potentially only have to do 2,000 range extender installs.
@@zandercerlong9693 Well it will be interesting to see what happens. I’m on the record saying it won’t happen but that’s just a guess of course. I don’t claim to have any special insight. My feeling is that if they were going to exist they would already exist. We’ll see. It doesn’t matter much to me either way as I’m not going to buy a Cybertruck but it’s kind of fun to make a prediction. To me the range extender is much more useful to Tesla as an idea than it is as a product.
WOW….a marathon all-inclusive review! Incredibly detailed, thorough, well coordinated and presented. An awesome experience for your followers. Leadership and teamwork personified.
It would be interesting to mention the fuel savings driving 60,000 miles a year. With my assumptions I could see upwards of $45,000.00 over 5 years vs my ICE truck.
Of course, the $9000/yr would be at the expense of home charging 10+ hours every other day unless someone averages less than 100 miles/day...and in that case, why not just have a hybrid PHEV and forego the need for a 2nd car.
@@WaywardAnalysis maintenance of that car with oil changes even with hybrids and the fact that that car is emitting a certain amount. 60k miles a year means definitely over 100 miles a day which is intense. And eventually there will be engine or trans rebuilds so theres definitely benefits. Does the cybertruck even meet these benefits for a business idk ??? but ev trucks certainly will have their place i think. And some business get there own dc fast charging unit so the downtime on charging wont be so bad
The Phantom Battery drain is a thing I've experienced with this truck quite a bit. I've found it to be highly variable. I've done two tests overnight, two days in a row. Conditions were: garaged overnight with ~80% charge each time, Sentry mode off, cabin overheat and AC off. Night one I lost about 2% between 10pm and 6am. Night two I lost exactly 1 mile (0.3%) range. The delta seems to be driven by "mobile App use" when reviewing the energy app in the truck. I'm not sure why this is since I wasn't using the app during that time in either case, but this points to likely a software fix in background app use.
🤔 The BMS is estimating the percentage, my model 3 often has 2-4% more charge in the morning after BMS gets a better read. 0.3-2% seems like a rounding error to me? If it really is from app usage, just make sure the app isn’t running before your next test or turn off your phone over night to make sure.
Ι purchased a Tesla 3 in 2021 and a Tesla Y in April, 2024…..I had no problems with either vehicle. Fit and finish were great and nothing was broken or missing…..both drive exceptionally well.
Could you efficiency test the OEM AT tires vs. the AS tires mounted on your OEM AT wheels? I’m trying to understand whether the Core wheels with AS tires are measurably more efficient than the AT wheels with the same AS tires mounted.
I am curious, how tall are you? I am 6-4 and your head is close to the ceiling. How will I fit? Can the seat be lowered from how you typically drive it?
far into the video they talk about cleaning the steel . Windex is suggested . You can take my word. I've made a living for decades cleaning windows. The cleaning product you want is called ZEP. It cleans glass way better than windex and it comes in one gallon concentrate form for about 10 bucks . (Home Depot ) It is so concentrated that for windows you dilute it about 10 to 1 with water . Yea, I'm not lucky enough to have a cybertruck like you but you will love that product for your truck And your windows
Tbh I think people are just more polite in person than they would be online. A lot of people (myself included) don't find the Y to be particularly good looking but after I bought mine, folks were always nice about it, calling it pretty etc. I feel like we should preface discussions with folks that they should feel free to be honest about it, since I think no one really wants to crap on someone in person
There's definitely an online specific dynamic going on with the obsession for being critical of Tesla. It has become an online sport of sorts. The number of people who get views by trying to win the "I'll show you how brutally honest I can be about my own fill in the blank Tesla model" is nearly endless. This two hour critique from a relatively popular channel demonstrates how ridiculous the splitting of hairs has gotten.
Definitely! I'll just say things like "oh, I am so glad you're enjoying your car!" or "It's sooo unique!" because I don't want to hurt their feelings, lol.
Couldn’t agree more! I think the Cybertruck is absolutely stupid, ugly, not worth anywhere close to $100k and think the foundation people got straight up scammed with all the missing features they paid for. All that said, if I saw an owner in the street, I’m not gonna be an ass to them. If they are happy, I am happy for them 😊
I was a disliker for looks, until i saw one and it's worse than I was willing to admit. the first truck saw and the owner asked me what it looked like, I honestly told them it's a big trash can looking whatever.😅
@@bear4278The overwhelming response to the CyberTruck is that it looks better in person. I’ve seen multiple CT in showrooms where the was NO owner around obviously and the large crowds were rather positive about the looks. It’s not elegant of course more like BRUTALLY BADASS which is great for a truck. Furthermore foundation buyers DID NOT get ripped off they literally were paying to have it EARLY to be FIRST this happens literally all the time in the auto industry and in other industries. Most of the CyberTruck early Buyers are either wealthy and could care less about paying more. CT is suppose to be 80K for the dual motor that has been selling for 100K. 12K of it is FSD for life, a couple thousand for all the accessories you can possibly buy for the truck, and also a voucher for bi directional install on your house. A foundation buyer is really only paying 5K for the “early” privilege the rest is the buyer actually receiving goods and services.
Make sure your wheel nuts are torqued to spec every couple thousand miles? I've owned various vehicle throughout my lifetime and not once have I ever had to torque the wheel nuts every couple thousand miles.
I wonder what the current used values of these things are now - especially since the vehicle is becoming less rare. Doesn't feel like it has kept its value compared to early Model 3's.
Just over $100k for AWD FE, but soon to crush for sure, besides design and rareness it’s just not enough hardware & software to objectively justify $100k.
They're still selling for more used than new. Of course, once the pre-orders are all filled and production has ramped enough they'll start reducing prices.
Place an Igloo or Yeti on the floor and fill with ice. Place phone on top of ice. Bonus, multiple companies have already rushed Cybertruck-Edition ice makers into production (3 decades prior to the CT’s debut) that will blend right in.
I took delivery of my Tri motor 2 weeks ago. Serial number ~15,000. Only quality issue has been a slight frunk miss-alignment. Zero rattles and the interior seems very well put together relative to earlier models.
Serious? I don’t think I’d call a slight frunk missalignment “serious”. I’ve had non-tesla vehicles with far more serious issues than that out of the box. @mutation666 is the 5K mark some number you know from experience, or just traceable to a WAG?
@@kestrelglassingsystems6704 not a Tesla hater .. I have a model 3 and Y but quality issues are rare with non Tesla new vehicles, especially premium vehicles. In fact I haven't had any quality control issues with the 5 new cars I've owned in my life. Your misalignment issue isn't the end of the world, but we need to collectively expect more from Tesla or at least the same as we would from any other near luxury vehicle
@@GMUTaylor6I’m not saying we shouldn’t expect more, but I’m reporting that they seems to be trending towards better. i drove a ~5000 SN AWD CT in March and it was a train wreck. At ~15000 I’m seeing serious improvement. Kyle is speaking on his experience with a very early SN and his words (which people listen to) carry a message about quality that probably isnt any longer up to date with respect to the CT.
@KyleConner - A2Z is making a CyberTruck version of the CCS to Tesla adapter so you can get rid of your ghetto setup with the Tesla adapter with EVJect setup
im curious how much of your passion allows you to just nonchalantly talk in depth vs. how much of your work ethic allows you to talk so much in depth. you are a great host, reminds me of linus tech tips
Not thrilled with the wear on the seat already? I mean I love this truck but do you think it’s worth the price considering all the things wrong with it? Will they replace that seat under warranty?
In reference to the Silverado ev. How many have been produced? Can people actually get those? Is there demand. Tesla says they are up to 1,300 Cybertrucks produced per week. How many Silverados are being produced?
I've said this to other owners, a non-centered steering wheel can be fixed yourself if you can get a tech to put your car into Service Mode Plus. I took delivery and the next day had a tech call me to schedule my appointment to fix it, and he's was like "you seem to know what you're doing, do you want to fix this yourself?" ... so yeah, all good. His suggestion, which wasn't covered in the manual, is to hold the wheel steady during calibration (lock it in place with your hands, HARD). Otherwise it detects center by rotation all the way to the left, and all the way to the right and assumes that centered is the middle of that. So by holding it centered, it marks center as being where you held it.
Kyle, I'm assuming you gets tons more snow in Colorado than we do here in Shitcago Illinois. Would those tires on a Dual motor CT do better here in Shitcago? 🤔
can we get an update on this vehicle, recalls, what is cost vs what’s is value now? why was it going for service when you took the rivian on road trip. do you regret it financially?
Kyle what’s been your experience with phantom battery drain in the cybertruck? Chuck is seeing about 200w per day of drain even with sentry and cabin overheat both turned off.
200W corresponds to main computer running, similar consumption in other Teslas with Sentry on which keeps the computer from sleeping. So the workaround for now could be to actually Power off the truck from the menu, very bad though :/
No, great review / update. Most reviews on EVs are so surface level. I hardly learn anything from them. But I always learn something watching your deep dives, keep it up!
Would like to see a winter review of the Cybertruck in heavy snowing conditions, it might have some issues like the headlamp as you mentioned. Can you put a snow plough on the Cybertruck and make it more useful? Does it have the strength in the body for that? (Plough will cover the head lamps!).
Use the top light bar which has not materialized yet. The front casting is designed to crumple. The the snow Plough/Plow might require some some sort of sub frame.
Kyle I think you mentioned it on the first cross country series but didn’t cover it here - the phone chargers getting iPhones super hot and not really charging at all- does yours still do that? Did you get it fixed? Or was there a “workaround”?
CT sounds like it is not fully cooked. My CT email came in but I rejected it. Foundation is ending and if I decide to purchase a CT I will do it at a lower price. How much does insurance cost you on the CT?
The last I heard is insurance companies are starting to choose to not even provide coverage so it is probably going to hard to get and expensive, the CT lost me over a year ago. It has failed for me on every thing that was its original selling point. There was a Elon interview over a year ago and unless it was a sham the interview left the impression he thought the CT was a mistake.
For bidirectional, since there are only two power pins on the NACS plug, don't you need an autotransformer with your gateway to get 120v in addition to 240v? How expensive is that?
I think Tesla Powershare uses the NACS receptacle to provide high voltage DC from the batteries, and have the 120V/240V inverter in the wall module. It's difficult to get details right now, but that would make sense, as it puts the additional DC->AC conversion weight and cost in the wall unit.
@@pfunk768 Is that using the Cybertruck Nema 14-50 connector? If so, then it wouldn't work for other Tesla vehicles, which cannot output AC on the NACS connector either (older hardware).
I’ve probably seen all Cybertruck review videos out there and this is by far the best one, so thank you. The snow issue with the headlights shocks me. I expected more from Tesla. Is the light bar just purely for aesthetics then?
Hi Kyle & Alyssa, great video. I was interested in the Cybertruck so went to my local showroom to check it out and noted significant wear to the driver seat bolster like yours Kyle, and also the door moulding was looking rough already. I know it's a high use vehicle in showrooms right now .... but I do not see this kind of wear on other Tesla showroom vehicles...
There are videos on Twitter and probably Tiktok, once the price crushes it will be used more. 10kW 240V outlet is no joke, hell you can weld out of it! I definitely plan to utilize the outlets for full electric camping setup and charge electric motorbike, but that’s not craftsmenship yea.
I think, just like the maneuverability in general, having tighter steering means you can back around a trailer better... Also, you could jack knife faster, if you're not paying attention. I saw someone blaming the truck steering for this recently, to which I thought, you can absolutely mess up the same exact way without rear steering. I really liked backing a trailer, could do tighter maneuvers, which I thought made it better and easier...
It is different. One has to get used to different. To say something is bad because it is different and you did not learn to use it; that is on you. Stick with your horse.
I fully appreciate the transparency and balanced nature of this review. It's nice to just listen and learn without all the hyperbole. Thank you, Kyle and team. I'm wrestling between this and a Model X Plaid at the moment... leaning towards the X even though this is quite cool.
My cybertruck after 3 weeks 2,000 miles… sits in my Okc sevice center parking lot, after the compressor stopped working, they say they have no eta for the compressor parts and they have already had it a week. So that’s cool. Does anyone know if the no compressor part is a real Thing. I think it’s ridiculous. I’ve driven it to work and home and to pickup my disabled kid… no off roading of any kind. So that’s cool. I had it go to high in garage to clear the step in front,, and that’s where it stuck,, and the compressor and I guess a valve stop working.
Sorry to hear your woes. Yes it's most likely a backordered part. If it stays in service for 30 days you can submit for them to buy it back from you, but they're hard to get, so it could be a wait to get a replacement. Your story is similar to others that buy a modern new car, unfortunately. I work at a car dealership and the EVs here often die within 30 miles and the parts are several months away. Pretty sad for a legacy automakers, but they all have issues.
@@jeremyventurino9481 Is his story really similar to anyone that 'buys a modern new car?' Care to point us to where someone has a new vehicle 'fail' and have to wait weeks - never mind months - to get a part? Soft apologists for Tesla's badly built vehicles (is the Cybertruck a new vehicle? Sure. Are compressors new? No...?) . Let's look at the problems GM had with the launch of their Blazer EV for comparison. Electronics gremlins popped when various influencers were testing it, so GM stopped selling it. Now here's the interesting part. They apparently gave $5000 to those owners that had taken delivery of their cars prior to the discovery of the problems (they did not effect everyone) because they dropped the price when putting the vehicle back on sale. While Tesla will literally have users waiting for MONTHS for parts for issues that should not be happening (it doesn't matter how new the vehicles are) in the first place though they're also doing nothing that I have heard to compensate buyers for the problems.
@@screenPhiles GM gives refunds to owners that have had longstanding issues by way of compensation for price cuts (they also gave refunds to Bolt owners when they cut the MSRP on that one, too). Yet Tesla is the "most profitable, largest auto company by market capitalization" in the world.
@@JDCheng Teslas is 'most profitable' because of their stock price, which if you pay attention you're aware is based on little more than perception (such as the nonsense of Elon Musk saying that Tesla isn't a car company; which only an idiot would believe. In any case, their market capitalization is falling. I suspect because reality is catching up to the nonsense). Not sure of your point about GM returning money though what I have noticed is that you haven't addressed the central point, namely Tesla doesn't build cars well and they're not compensating buyers for THEIR mistakes.
My prediction is that the CT pack will eventually be ~185 kWh. The 4680 "canning" line could quite easily become 46120. That's 40 mm taller, less than 1.6". If you've seen the Munro pack teardown, the void space was discussed. There is plenty of room in the pack for a 40 mm taller cell AND space to vent gas if there is a "bad" battery event. Another option is going to blade or prism style packs.
If an LFP version is viable it would be far better due to limited degradation especially when you talk about selling power back to the grid. Unfortunately if they engineered the cybertruck with only enough space for the current battery then lower energy density LFP is out (70 kwh wouldnt be enough). As he said others have far larger packs and that is one of the biggest disappointments compared to the unveil.
Fit and finish, rattles are mostly the bleeding edge of new models released. Which you buy for content. You have to admit a later model 3 for example was much more dialed in. This is true for many automakers. Thanks for the transparent reviews!
Kyle is all over the place in this one. If you like this thing then fine but he criticized it all video and then in summary "idk it's pretty cool". Then he prefers the Hummer for being stupid and the Rivian for being good. Not sure what the point was other than to find a way to make another CT video.
i get that some people tow, but IMHO too much consideration is given to towing range in this analysis. 99% of buyers will not tow even once. to compromise the truck with additional weight and battery cost for the 1% would be suboptimal. it’s inconsistent to recommend the dual motor because it’s a better fit for the 99% and at the same time focus so much on towing deficiencies. since when is over 300 miles in the 70 MPH range test considered inadequate?
> i get that some people tow, but IMHO too much consideration is given to towing range in this analysis. 99% of buyers will not tow even once. This statement applies equally across the entire consumer pickup truck market. The average half-ton or light 3/4 ton noncommercial pickup truck owner isn't towing anything regardless of which truck they bought, or even doing any "real truck things" (read: things I couldn't easily do with a minivan) more than once or twice a year if even that. Despite that, most of those buyers will insist that they do in fact need to be able to do those things on a moment's notice so they care about what it can hypothetically do regardless of whether they ever reasonably expect to make use of those abilities.
I will argue that it is a lot higher than 1%. Everybody in my family that owns a truck, tows with it throughout the year. Maybe not every day or every month but enough times to make it an issue buying an EV. I live in the Midwest and during the weekends the amount of people towing something is a lot ( A lot of people own side by sides or boats as well as campers). I would say 10% to 20% probably tow enough to make it an issue. Granted there are a lot of pavement princess out there.
i have always thought that GM's solution of "throwing batteries at the problem" is reckless, wasteful and lazy. why are we celebrating that? for every silverado or hummer EV battery pack you can make 3 regular EVs. feels like offering a "tow package" for those select folks that want to tow while road tripping makes a lot more sense.
Good idea re ‘tow packages’ or maybe a design like v-fast with swapping different size batteries…but that’s a whole other story with logistical issues/not owning your pack🤔 Hopefully the technology changes to become more energy dense/lighter…and the choices increase!
Here in south oc they are everywhere now. I also received email last week to build my ct as late 2021 pre order. With 20k add on and issues with first batch, it might be a good idea to wait for a few months until non foundation is out.
At 1:48:20 I wonder if someone vandalized your wheel nuts? Did someone with a wrench loosen them all maybe? There's no way they would back themselves off if properly torqued, even just by hand guess torqued down. It's not like it's a buzzforks. ;)
Nice video, but seen from EU it is a ridiculously big car, no wonder the batteri seems small, it need around 3 normal EV batteries to have a a reasonable range.
Sigh… why do Europeans feel the need to make the same comment? I was wondering how far I would have to scroll before seeing this comment. Perhaps it wasn’t designed for the European market. I’ve seen several around town and they’re the same as an average full size pickup truck. Roads and streets in North America are larger because we’re not as densely populated as Europe. To put it in perspective: The state of Montana is larger than Germany but has the population of 1.1 million; whereas Germany is 83 million. San Bernardino county (counties are subdivisions within a state (some states have different divisions like Louisiana and Alaska) like departments in France) in California is twice the size of Belgium. Canada is the second largest country in the world but has less the population than California.
This is entirely in the normal range for a full-size truck in the U.S. Have you ever been here? If you ever spend time in the west and midwestern states, you'll come to understand why these large personal trucks (from your perspective) make sense on our large roads and massive expanses of open land.
Like all trucks this is for 'Mericans. You can't be all things to all people. 'Mericans would never be seen in Fiat panda so it evens out. Or Fiat multipla.😂
I was really intrigued by your preconditioning comments and that the cybertruck is best in class. I'm not sure if you have measured this. Video idea for winter would be to cold soak all of the trucks on the market and compare their performance.
Took delivery of a 2022 Tesla Model Y Performance in February 2022. NO build quality issues; have not returned to Tesla for any service issues. More than 2 years and over 58K miles and zero issues.
great video Kyle but you forgot to show us how easy it is to swat the truck, also would like to see how far off the ground the tailgate is once swatted.
Any reports of people injuring themselves on the sharp corners and points? Apparently happened on 1950s cars with the wings on the back people walk into them or trip and fall on them.
To be clear, before the lugnuts became loose, a third party took the wheels off and on and since then, the lugnuts haven't become loose again, correct?
Could you perform a fair range test comparison between the Cybertruck, F-150, and Rivian. The test should be conducted at the same elevation and temperature as the previous F-150 and Rivian test, and the Cybertruck should be equipped with wheel caps. The initial Cybertruck test was not comparable to the conditions of the F-150 and Rivian test, so I would appreciate it if you could conduct a new test under the same conditions.
If you don’t have time for the full video I wrote a supporting article on my X / Twitter page
What is the link to that?
No one buying six figure luxury toys has time to watch your videos 😂
I got time to watch it I'm at 25:21
@@kcw9313 Nothing luxury about Teslas
@@kcw9313 I’d guess most of us have no intention of buying one. I’ll skim the video out of curiosity.
By far the best EV channel on all of the tubes.! Also, you guys gave me a great suggestion and I found a Ford lightning pro with very few miles on it for 36 grand. Taking delivery of it next week! I can’t wait and I’m gonna be doing some very specific testing Using it as a contractor and for camping and we’re gonna be putting a special hard sided pop top camper on it. I’ll take all the suggestions I can get from Kyle! Thanks and keep up the great work!
Watch Lord of the Rings directors cut? Nah, better watch all Out of spec Cybertruck reviews 😂😂
Ain't got time for dat
Hobbits in Cybertrucks? "My Precious!"
Once the range extender is installed, it will not be removable without a full day of service. There will be plumbing and high voltage electrical in addition to it being very securely bolted in. I still don’t believe that this will ever be real. It is just not the Tesla way.
I can see it being split into multiple less heavy pieces for easier handling and act as a home battery when not installed in the Truck.
But that’s too much of wishful thinking 😅
Unless it’s passively cooled.
I agree that the range extender will never happen. I think it was just used to save face when they didn’t meet the promised 500 miles. Tesla could kind of say they could give the range until some time passed and people got used to reality. I think it’s more likely that they’ll just make a truck that comes with a bigger battery if the Cybertruck remains popular enough.
@@Molishiousit will probably for sure happen but not for long because tesla wont be constrained on 4680 for ever. Sooner than later they will just greatly increase the size of the actual battery pack. Tesla knew every single tesla the first year would sell regardless of range could have been 100miles and they would have sold all of them. So lets say the end of this year they offer bigger batter packs on CT then they only have to offer the range extender to the trucks that were delivered in 2024 maybe what a potential of 40K units or something. Maybe only 5% of those even want it. So they potentially only have to do 2,000 range extender installs.
@@zandercerlong9693 Well it will be interesting to see what happens. I’m on the record saying it won’t happen but that’s just a guess of course. I don’t claim to have any special insight. My feeling is that if they were going to exist they would already exist. We’ll see. It doesn’t matter much to me either way as I’m not going to buy a Cybertruck but it’s kind of fun to make a prediction. To me the range extender is much more useful to Tesla as an idea than it is as a product.
WOW….a marathon all-inclusive review! Incredibly detailed, thorough, well coordinated and presented. An awesome experience for your followers. Leadership and teamwork personified.
It would be interesting to mention the fuel savings driving 60,000 miles a year. With my assumptions I could see upwards of $45,000.00 over 5 years vs my ICE truck.
Of course, the $9000/yr would be at the expense of home charging 10+ hours every other day unless someone averages less than 100 miles/day...and in that case, why not just have a hybrid PHEV and forego the need for a 2nd car.
@@WaywardAnalysis maintenance of that car with oil changes even with hybrids and the fact that that car is emitting a certain amount. 60k miles a year means definitely over 100 miles a day which is intense. And eventually there will be engine or trans rebuilds so theres definitely benefits. Does the cybertruck even meet these benefits for a business idk ??? but ev trucks certainly will have their place i think. And some business get there own dc fast charging unit so the downtime on charging wont be so bad
But the average miles driven are 14k per year? And what is this mystical "$45k"? Does that include insurance and depreciation?
The Phantom Battery drain is a thing I've experienced with this truck quite a bit. I've found it to be highly variable. I've done two tests overnight, two days in a row. Conditions were: garaged overnight with ~80% charge each time, Sentry mode off, cabin overheat and AC off. Night one I lost about 2% between 10pm and 6am. Night two I lost exactly 1 mile (0.3%) range. The delta seems to be driven by "mobile App use" when reviewing the energy app in the truck. I'm not sure why this is since I wasn't using the app during that time in either case, but this points to likely a software fix in background app use.
Elon is cryptofarming 😅
🤔 The BMS is estimating the percentage, my model 3 often has 2-4% more charge in the morning after BMS gets a better read. 0.3-2% seems like a rounding error to me? If it really is from app usage, just make sure the app isn’t running before your next test or turn off your phone over night to make sure.
I love his nerd level 2000. I really enjoyed when he did the 8-hour video about the cyber truck.
Ι purchased a Tesla 3 in 2021 and a Tesla Y in April, 2024…..I had no problems with either vehicle. Fit and finish were great and nothing was broken or missing…..both drive exceptionally well.
Could you efficiency test the OEM AT tires vs. the AS tires mounted on your OEM AT wheels? I’m trying to understand whether the Core wheels with AS tires are measurably more efficient than the AT wheels with the same AS tires mounted.
Err why front suspension high and back low in intro ?
It's called the Carolina squat and it's the dumbest thing ever. It's also now illegal
How's the light bar?
I appreciate the in depth nature of/ length. There are a million short form videos but precious few deep dives. It’s part of your brand, keep it.
I am curious, how tall are you? I am 6-4 and your head is close to the ceiling. How will I fit? Can the seat be lowered from how you typically drive it?
far into the video they talk about cleaning the steel . Windex is suggested . You can take my word. I've made a living for decades cleaning windows. The cleaning product you want is called ZEP. It cleans glass way better than windex and it comes in one gallon concentrate form for about 10 bucks . (Home Depot ) It is so concentrated that for windows you dilute it about 10 to 1 with water . Yea, I'm not lucky enough to have a cybertruck like you but you will love that product for your truck And your windows
thanks for the tip
@OutofspecReviews1 the champ ? Did I win a frog or something ? lol
Lol consider yourself lucky you don't own one.
Don't have the huge cash for it anyway.. Back in the day I bought a house for $57k so these EV numbers seem crazy to me
Seems like the wheels falling off is kind of a big issue. Does that happen often?
Tbh I think people are just more polite in person than they would be online. A lot of people (myself included) don't find the Y to be particularly good looking but after I bought mine, folks were always nice about it, calling it pretty etc. I feel like we should preface discussions with folks that they should feel free to be honest about it, since I think no one really wants to crap on someone in person
There's definitely an online specific dynamic going on with the obsession for being critical of Tesla. It has become an online sport of sorts. The number of people who get views by trying to win the "I'll show you how brutally honest I can be about my own fill in the blank Tesla model" is nearly endless. This two hour critique from a relatively popular channel demonstrates how ridiculous the splitting of hairs has gotten.
Definitely! I'll just say things like "oh, I am so glad you're enjoying your car!" or "It's sooo unique!" because I don't want to hurt their feelings, lol.
Couldn’t agree more! I think the Cybertruck is absolutely stupid, ugly, not worth anywhere close to $100k and think the foundation people got straight up scammed with all the missing features they paid for.
All that said, if I saw an owner in the street, I’m not gonna be an ass to them. If they are happy, I am happy for them 😊
I was a disliker for looks, until i saw one and it's worse than I was willing to admit. the first truck saw and the owner asked me what it looked like, I honestly told them it's a big trash can looking whatever.😅
@@bear4278The overwhelming response to the CyberTruck is that it looks better in person. I’ve seen multiple CT in showrooms where the was NO owner around obviously and the large crowds were rather positive about the looks. It’s not elegant of course more like BRUTALLY BADASS which is great for a truck. Furthermore foundation buyers DID NOT get ripped off they literally were paying to have it EARLY to be FIRST this happens literally all the time in the auto industry and in other industries. Most of the CyberTruck early Buyers are either wealthy and could care less about paying more. CT is suppose to be 80K for the dual motor that has been selling for 100K. 12K of it is FSD for life, a couple thousand for all the accessories you can possibly buy for the truck, and also a voucher for bi directional install on your house. A foundation buyer is really only paying 5K for the “early” privilege the rest is the buyer actually receiving goods and services.
Make sure your wheel nuts are torqued to spec every couple thousand miles? I've owned various vehicle throughout my lifetime and not once have I ever had to torque the wheel nuts every couple thousand miles.
How’d he get only the front suspension to rise?
just wondering my ocean property is at the same level for the last 30 yrs??
Where is Kyle moving to? Has he talked about it yet? I remember him talking about some out of spec ranch on some podcast a while back.
I wonder what the current used values of these things are now - especially since the vehicle is becoming less rare. Doesn't feel like it has kept its value compared to early Model 3's.
Just over $100k for AWD FE, but soon to crush for sure, besides design and rareness it’s just not enough hardware & software to objectively justify $100k.
They're still selling for more used than new. Of course, once the pre-orders are all filled and production has ramped enough they'll start reducing prices.
How did you get the suspension to be high in the front and low in the back like that?
There may be a loading option. There is a leveling iron for camping and he may be parking faced downhill with that setting on.
Service mode
Extract height -> Service Mode -> Deflate Rear Bags ✅
how do you do all of that with one take? do you rehearse a script or just wing it?
He wings it.
Does the wet towel trick keep phones from overheating?
Yes
Throw an ice pack on it. May discolor or swell your phone case though.
Place an Igloo or Yeti on the floor and fill with ice. Place phone on top of ice.
Bonus, multiple companies have already rushed Cybertruck-Edition ice makers into production (3 decades prior to the CT’s debut) that will blend right in.
I love these long nerdy videos btw!
Yes, a lot of us are so done with flashy nonsense reviews where people just do cool shots and read the spec from website. We want nerd details!
I took delivery of my Tri motor 2 weeks ago. Serial number ~15,000. Only quality issue has been a slight frunk miss-alignment. Zero rattles and the interior seems very well put together relative to earlier models.
wait till 5000 mile mark
Nice that your 100k truck has just one serious quality issue 😂
Serious? I don’t think I’d call a slight frunk missalignment “serious”. I’ve had non-tesla vehicles with far more serious issues than that out of the box.
@mutation666 is the 5K mark some number you know from experience, or just traceable to a WAG?
@@kestrelglassingsystems6704 not a Tesla hater .. I have a model 3 and Y but quality issues are rare with non Tesla new vehicles, especially premium vehicles. In fact I haven't had any quality control issues with the 5 new cars I've owned in my life. Your misalignment issue isn't the end of the world, but we need to collectively expect more from Tesla or at least the same as we would from any other near luxury vehicle
@@GMUTaylor6I’m not saying we shouldn’t expect more, but I’m reporting that they seems to be trending towards better. i drove a ~5000 SN AWD CT in March and it was a train wreck. At ~15000 I’m seeing serious improvement. Kyle is speaking on his experience with a very early SN and his words (which people listen to) carry a message about quality that probably isnt any longer up to date with respect to the CT.
@KyleConner - A2Z is making a CyberTruck version of the CCS to Tesla adapter so you can get rid of your ghetto setup with the Tesla adapter with EVJect setup
I hope it comes out soon...
im curious how much of your passion allows you to just nonchalantly talk in depth vs. how much of your work ethic allows you to talk so much in depth. you are a great host, reminds me of linus tech tips
29:08 if Tesla has better thermal management then why can't they hang with the Porsches you've tested on highways?
So buying one will change the weather 2050z?😊
Not thrilled with the wear on the seat already? I mean I love this truck but do you think it’s worth the price considering all the things wrong with it? Will they replace that seat under warranty?
They got summer tires for it?
i think this is one of your best videos, loved the candor
109%
What is Cybertruck *best* at for $100k? Compared to Silverado EV for example?
Have you ever driven it in over 100F weather? I’m curious on how the air conditioning holds up.
In reference to the Silverado ev. How many have been produced? Can people actually get those? Is there demand. Tesla says they are up to 1,300 Cybertrucks produced per week. How many Silverados are being produced?
Let us know if the whine goes away with replaced upgraded motors
I've said this to other owners, a non-centered steering wheel can be fixed yourself if you can get a tech to put your car into Service Mode Plus. I took delivery and the next day had a tech call me to schedule my appointment to fix it, and he's was like "you seem to know what you're doing, do you want to fix this yourself?" ... so yeah, all good. His suggestion, which wasn't covered in the manual, is to hold the wheel steady during calibration (lock it in place with your hands, HARD). Otherwise it detects center by rotation all the way to the left, and all the way to the right and assumes that centered is the middle of that. So by holding it centered, it marks center as being where you held it.
Microsoft had this figured out in Windows 95. 😂
I like cars that don't lose alignment by simply driving it lol
Kyle, I'm assuming you gets tons more snow in Colorado than we do here in Shitcago Illinois. Would those tires on a Dual motor CT do better here in Shitcago? 🤔
Colorado snow fall and how long it hangs around varies significantly. There is a lot of elevation change.
Are satellite view of the nav map not available in CyberTruck? I've only ever seen the plain map.
can we get an update on this vehicle, recalls, what is cost vs what’s is value now? why was it going for service when you took the rivian on road trip. do you regret it financially?
Kyle what’s been your experience with phantom battery drain in the cybertruck?
Chuck is seeing about 200w per day of drain even with sentry and cabin overheat both turned off.
There are other sources of vampire drain. Data sharing options, 3-rd party apps, or a phone/key in range of the car can keep it on stand-by.
200W corresponds to main computer running, similar consumption in other Teslas with Sentry on which keeps the computer from sleeping.
So the workaround for now could be to actually Power off the truck from the menu, very bad though :/
Is this cybertruck charging info still acurate? Someone posted they got 400kw and posted pictures.
Are you still planning on getting it wrapped in a few months? My vote is for a color ppf matte that's not a black or grey variant.
I dig rust flakes but wtf asked me right
What if the range extender turns out to be they open your battery pack and fill the empty space with more cells?
No, great review / update. Most reviews on EVs are so surface level. I hardly learn anything from them. But I always learn something watching your deep dives, keep it up!
Would like to see a winter review of the Cybertruck in heavy snowing conditions, it might have some issues like the headlamp as you mentioned. Can you put a snow plough on the Cybertruck and make it more useful? Does it have the strength in the body for that? (Plough will cover the head lamps!).
Use the top light bar which has not materialized yet. The front casting is designed to crumple. The the snow Plough/Plow might require some some sort of sub frame.
Absolutely FANTABULOUS CAMERA WORK………. makes oos reviews possible 👍
Where you moving to, Kyle? Staying in CO?
4:40 why is there a moisture stain on the road?
Kyle I think you mentioned it on the first cross country series but didn’t cover it here - the phone chargers getting iPhones super hot and not really charging at all- does yours still do that? Did you get it fixed? Or was there a “workaround”?
Mine works fine
Kyle's level of knowledge on charging and EVs in general is mesmerizing.
Ehh he really doesn't know how these machines work under the hood he more of a sells man who tells you what's on the brochure
@@leviandhiro3596 Yeah, lots of regurgitation.
The amount of glazing is crazy
I don't see him talking about technical stuff much. Everything is more surface talking like salesman who has no idea what is going on in the car.
Any squeak/rattle before off roading?
How many kiiowatt hours to make? Why stainless steel?
CT sounds like it is not fully cooked. My CT email came in but I rejected it. Foundation is ending and if I decide to purchase a CT I will do it at a lower price. How much does insurance cost you on the CT?
The last I heard is insurance companies are starting to choose to not even provide coverage so it is probably going to hard to get and expensive, the CT lost me over a year ago. It has failed for me on every thing that was its original selling point. There was a Elon interview over a year ago and unless it was a sham the interview left the impression he thought the CT was a mistake.
I’ve seen people on Twitter posting Tesla Insurance payments of around $400-$500/m for AWD I believe it was in Texas.
For bidirectional, since there are only two power pins on the NACS plug, don't you need an autotransformer with your gateway to get 120v in addition to 240v? How expensive is that?
I think Tesla Powershare uses the NACS receptacle to provide high voltage DC from the batteries, and have the 120V/240V inverter in the wall module. It's difficult to get details right now, but that would make sense, as it puts the additional DC->AC conversion weight and cost in the wall unit.
@@krslavin A portion of the video was about how Tesla is doing bidirectional differently from others by converting to AC on board the vehicle.
@@pfunk768 Is that using the Cybertruck Nema 14-50 connector? If so, then it wouldn't work for other Tesla vehicles, which cannot output AC on the NACS connector either (older hardware).
I’ve probably seen all Cybertruck review videos out there and this is by far the best one, so thank you. The snow issue with the headlights shocks me. I expected more from Tesla. Is the light bar just purely for aesthetics then?
How come he didn’t mention anything about the windshield wiper or did I miss it?
Is there a dent or kink in the top of the driver’s side front fender extension?
How did you get it to squat like that in the beginning of the video?
Hi Kyle & Alyssa, great video. I was interested in the Cybertruck so went to my local showroom to check it out and noted significant wear to the driver seat bolster like yours Kyle, and also the door moulding was looking rough already. I know it's a high use vehicle in showrooms right now .... but I do not see this kind of wear on other Tesla showroom vehicles...
Great work I always learn something from your videos keeps me coming back
How has the white interior held up?
Whats the best option, 2 motors or cyberbeast.?
Range ext is 1000lbs? Tire wear??
Best Cybertruck video yet!!! Thank you for all of the content, sure answers, and dispose of so many questions and misinformation.
I have yet to see the CT used by craftsmen? Is it just a toy?
There are videos on Twitter and probably Tiktok, once the price crushes it will be used more.
10kW 240V outlet is no joke, hell you can weld out of it! I definitely plan to utilize the outlets for full electric camping setup and charge electric motorbike, but that’s not craftsmenship yea.
What is your definition of super rare? Seen them in Knoxville and Memphis TN
The slide bar for power front/back ratio sounds brilliant!
It was a lot of fun for me in the sand a few weekends ago... I've yet to try it out on a wet day and empty tarmac... ;)
??? QUESTION. when you are backing up a trailer, what are the differences with the rear wheel steering when maneuvering the trailer? Thx
I think, just like the maneuverability in general, having tighter steering means you can back around a trailer better...
Also, you could jack knife faster, if you're not paying attention. I saw someone blaming the truck steering for this recently, to which I thought, you can absolutely mess up the same exact way without rear steering.
I really liked backing a trailer, could do tighter maneuvers, which I thought made it better and easier...
It is different. One has to get used to different. To say something is bad because it is different and you did not learn to use it; that is on you. Stick with your horse.
I fully appreciate the transparency and balanced nature of this review. It's nice to just listen and learn without all the hyperbole. Thank you, Kyle and team. I'm wrestling between this and a Model X Plaid at the moment... leaning towards the X even though this is quite cool.
My cybertruck after 3 weeks 2,000 miles… sits in my Okc sevice center parking lot, after the compressor stopped working, they say they have no eta for the compressor parts and they have already had it a week. So that’s cool. Does anyone know if the no compressor part is a real
Thing. I think it’s ridiculous. I’ve driven it to work and home and to pickup my disabled kid… no off roading of any kind. So that’s cool. I had it go to high in garage to clear the step in front,, and that’s where it stuck,, and the compressor and I guess a valve stop working.
Yes first generation vehicles are going to have these problems. And there’s no 3rd party to take it to. Maybe in time. Good.🍀
Sorry to hear your woes. Yes it's most likely a backordered part. If it stays in service for 30 days you can submit for them to buy it back from you, but they're hard to get, so it could be a wait to get a replacement. Your story is similar to others that buy a modern new car, unfortunately. I work at a car dealership and the EVs here often die within 30 miles and the parts are several months away. Pretty sad for a legacy automakers, but they all have issues.
@@jeremyventurino9481 Is his story really similar to anyone that 'buys a modern new car?'
Care to point us to where someone has a new vehicle 'fail' and have to wait weeks - never mind months - to get a part?
Soft apologists for Tesla's badly built vehicles (is the Cybertruck a new vehicle? Sure. Are compressors new? No...?) .
Let's look at the problems GM had with the launch of their Blazer EV for comparison. Electronics gremlins popped when various influencers were testing it, so GM stopped selling it.
Now here's the interesting part. They apparently gave $5000 to those owners that had taken delivery of their cars prior to the discovery of the problems (they did not effect everyone) because they dropped the price when putting the vehicle back on sale.
While Tesla will literally have users waiting for MONTHS for parts for issues that should not be happening (it doesn't matter how new the vehicles are) in the first place though they're also doing nothing that I have heard to compensate buyers for the problems.
@@screenPhiles GM gives refunds to owners that have had longstanding issues by way of compensation for price cuts (they also gave refunds to Bolt owners when they cut the MSRP on that one, too).
Yet Tesla is the "most profitable, largest auto company by market capitalization" in the world.
@@JDCheng Teslas is 'most profitable' because of their stock price, which if you pay attention you're aware is based on little more than perception (such as the nonsense of Elon Musk saying that Tesla isn't a car company; which only an idiot would believe. In any case, their market capitalization is falling. I suspect because reality is catching up to the nonsense).
Not sure of your point about GM returning money though what I have noticed is that you haven't addressed the central point, namely Tesla doesn't build cars well and they're not compensating buyers for THEIR mistakes.
I dont think a $120,000 truck should squeak and rattle. Considering canceling my preorder. Do you think they’ll get these things fixed?
My prediction is that the CT pack will eventually be ~185 kWh. The 4680 "canning" line could quite easily become 46120. That's 40 mm taller, less than 1.6". If you've seen the Munro pack teardown, the void space was discussed. There is plenty of room in the pack for a 40 mm taller cell AND space to vent gas if there is a "bad" battery event. Another option is going to blade or prism style packs.
If an LFP version is viable it would be far better due to limited degradation especially when you talk about selling power back to the grid. Unfortunately if they engineered the cybertruck with only enough space for the current battery then lower energy density LFP is out (70 kwh wouldnt be enough). As he said others have far larger packs and that is one of the biggest disappointments compared to the unveil.
Fit and finish, rattles are mostly the bleeding edge of new models released. Which you buy for content. You have to admit a later model 3 for example was much more dialed in. This is true for many automakers. Thanks for the transparent reviews!
Yeah but they’re still not that well built
@@LoneStarWatch Nor was the initial Model 3. I think most of the issues are cosmetic though now.
Kyle is all over the place in this one. If you like this thing then fine but he criticized it all video and then in summary "idk it's pretty cool". Then he prefers the Hummer for being stupid and the Rivian for being good. Not sure what the point was other than to find a way to make another CT video.
Nuance. Pros and cons. Not everything can be summarized as black or white.
Gotta get those ad bucks.
@@SpottedSharks Oh yes it can. The CyberTruck looks ugly. I don't care what it has on the inside.
@@PowerNGlory Ok, muggle.
It's objectively ugly
i get that some people tow, but IMHO too much consideration is given to towing range in this analysis. 99% of buyers will not tow even once. to compromise the truck with additional weight and battery cost for the 1% would be suboptimal.
it’s inconsistent to recommend the dual motor because it’s a better fit for the 99% and at the same time focus so much on towing deficiencies.
since when is over 300 miles in the 70 MPH range test considered inadequate?
> i get that some people tow, but IMHO too much consideration is given to towing range in this analysis. 99% of buyers will not tow even once.
This statement applies equally across the entire consumer pickup truck market. The average half-ton or light 3/4 ton noncommercial pickup truck owner isn't towing anything regardless of which truck they bought, or even doing any "real truck things" (read: things I couldn't easily do with a minivan) more than once or twice a year if even that.
Despite that, most of those buyers will insist that they do in fact need to be able to do those things on a moment's notice so they care about what it can hypothetically do regardless of whether they ever reasonably expect to make use of those abilities.
I will argue that it is a lot higher than 1%. Everybody in my family that owns a truck, tows with it throughout the year. Maybe not every day or every month but enough times to make it an issue buying an EV. I live in the Midwest and during the weekends the amount of people towing something is a lot ( A lot of people own side by sides or boats as well as campers). I would say 10% to 20% probably tow enough to make it an issue. Granted there are a lot of pavement princess out there.
There is a lot of towing that is not significantly impacted by range.
i have always thought that GM's solution of "throwing batteries at the problem" is reckless, wasteful and lazy. why are we celebrating that? for every silverado or hummer EV battery pack you can make 3 regular EVs. feels like offering a "tow package" for those select folks that want to tow while road tripping makes a lot more sense.
Good idea re ‘tow packages’ or maybe a design like v-fast with swapping different size batteries…but that’s a whole other story with logistical issues/not owning your pack🤔 Hopefully the technology changes to become more energy dense/lighter…and the choices increase!
btw: why has the truck lass grunt then the Plaid sedan? just wondering?
Weighs a ton more
Need a camera gimbal for this one. The camera didn’t stop the whole time. Has to be super tough to hold a phone still that long
Nice after 3 months you already have more miles than most would have after a year.
It's Insane how much you Americans drive.
I get 5-6k miles per year.
@@thiesclausen4868I mean average interstate speed are on 75-80mph
Would take about 200hr to get to 15k
Prolly close to 500hr of total road trip if also counting slow driving and supercharge
Now there a ram truck Ev coming out to test vs the cyber truck
Phantom battery drain: If you turn off aircon, make sure to turn of AC first. I noticed that it makes a difference in my Model Y.
I ordered one in October 2022. I’m hoping the range improves in the ensuing years when my number is called.
I have an EV, will never buy a CT but at 2x speed I really enjoyed watching your review. Thank you.
Have never really watched a solid review video of the CyberTruck. So where do I go? Out of Spec of course.
Here in south oc they are everywhere now. I also received email last week to build my ct as late 2021 pre order. With 20k add on and issues with first batch, it might be a good idea to wait for a few months until non foundation is out.
At 1:48:20 I wonder if someone vandalized your wheel nuts? Did someone with a wrench loosen them all maybe? There's no way they would back themselves off if properly torqued, even just by hand guess torqued down. It's not like it's a buzzforks. ;)
Kyle I got set 315’s takeoffs u can have ( decent tread )
Nice video, but seen from EU it is a ridiculously big car, no wonder the batteri seems small, it need around 3 normal EV batteries to have a a reasonable range.
Sigh… why do Europeans feel the need to make the same comment? I was wondering how far I would have to scroll before seeing this comment. Perhaps it wasn’t designed for the European market. I’ve seen several around town and they’re the same as an average full size pickup truck. Roads and streets in North America are larger because we’re not as densely populated as Europe. To put it in perspective: The state of Montana is larger than Germany but has the population of 1.1 million; whereas Germany is 83 million. San Bernardino county (counties are subdivisions within a state (some states have different divisions like Louisiana and Alaska) like departments in France) in California is twice the size of Belgium. Canada is the second largest country in the world but has less the population than California.
This is entirely in the normal range for a full-size truck in the U.S. Have you ever been here? If you ever spend time in the west and midwestern states, you'll come to understand why these large personal trucks (from your perspective) make sense on our large roads and massive expanses of open land.
Like all trucks this is for 'Mericans. You can't be all things to all people.
'Mericans would never be seen in Fiat panda so it evens out.
Or Fiat multipla.😂
It's literally smaller than any full-size truck...
And 320 miles of range is more than reasonable.
It is my understanding once the range extender is in stalled it does not come out.
You finally got good at this. Great video! Keep this quality level up.
I was really intrigued by your preconditioning comments and that the cybertruck is best in class. I'm not sure if you have measured this. Video idea for winter would be to cold soak all of the trucks on the market and compare their performance.
Took delivery of a 2022 Tesla Model Y Performance in February 2022. NO build quality issues; have not returned to Tesla for any service issues. More than 2 years and over 58K miles and zero issues.
This is completely new product,it's the same for all carmakers - they have more issues in first couple of years.
Yep, people just like to focus on Tesla because it gets views due to the polarization.
great video Kyle but you forgot to show us how easy it is to swat the truck, also would like to see how far off the ground the tailgate is once swatted.
What does swat mean?
I think maybe squat
Any reports of people injuring themselves on the sharp corners and points? Apparently happened on 1950s cars with the wings on the back people walk into them or trip and fall on them.
To be clear, before the lugnuts became loose, a third party took the wheels off and on and since then, the lugnuts haven't become loose again, correct?
“Good” is your honest assessment. Thank you.
A great encyclopedic review of your Tesla CyberTruck experience. Love your thoroughness and comparisons to other vehicles.
Could you perform a fair range test comparison between the Cybertruck, F-150, and Rivian. The test should be conducted at the same elevation and temperature as the previous F-150 and Rivian test, and the Cybertruck should be equipped with wheel caps.
The initial Cybertruck test was not comparable to the conditions of the F-150 and Rivian test, so I would appreciate it if you could conduct a new test under the same conditions.