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- Introducing Haag Ford Tested! In this series we are going to explore vehicle topics that we think will help our customers learn more about what they will need from the Ford product line. We'll give you the numbers and you'll have a piece of mind knowing that we will be straight up with our findings. We're gearheads just like you! So tag along in Episode 1 as we explore F-150 towing with a 5L, 3.5L EcoBoost, and the ALL-NEW Diesel!
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Best video comparison I’ve seen yet on all 3 different motors in one solid video .. i bought a 2018 3.0 diesel king ranch and simply love it , I was concern at first about the low horsepower , wish it had at least 300 horses but , you’ll said it the difference between gas power and diesel power .. thanks guys for this video , 🤝🏽🤝🏽🤝🏽
same ! i bought a 2019 3.0 diesel lariat, i love it!
“No new technology here, been around forever” is not true about the 5.0. In 2011, it was the first dual overhead cam (independent intake and exhaust cams on each bank), 32 valve v8 in an f150. Here in 2018, the 5.0 gained supplemental direct injection along with the port injection, while 11-17 5.0’s only had port injection. It was also bored out in 2018 going from 302 to 307 c.i.d.
Thanks for doing this. Exactly what I wanted to see.
can u add prices of each vehicle and what mpg they would get running the same course without pulling a trailer?
Are you going to do it again for the 2021 f150
do you have HP torque rpm speed/shift point charts?
I've got the 5.4 it's not impressive at all, only thing I'm impressed about it is how much it likes Gas it really has a drinking problem
Reliabillity? Maintenance?
So what transmission mode are you in??
Anybody who is bashing the Ecoboost has just never driven one for any length of time.
Very true. I’ve had too but still my next F-150 “might” be a 5.0. Just love the sound and feel of the V8.
True! I like my '11 5.0 but my sister's '11 EcoBoost is faster, pulls considerably better and is more fuel efficient.
Michael Godsey just traded my ‘15 eco on a 5.0.. that eco was problematic. Some valve on the fuel tank at 34k, Oil pan gasket at 38k, turbo at 46k .. our work truck is a ‘14 5.0 and it’s at 128k no issues other than a battery, brakes and tires .. yes the eco is very strong and smooth but I just don’t trust them for the long haul .. cheers 🍻
Ecoboost equals turbo. Ever wonder why the 5.0 doesn't have a turbo?? And ever wonder what if it had a turbo? heck what about a supercharger! It would blow the v6 away!
@@JPE_DRAEB I own an EcoBoost truck and a coyote mustang. Do you realize what it costs to put a blower or a turbo on a coyote? Have fun spending 6k to do it. Love my EcoBoost for comfort and I get in my mustang when I want to be obnoxiously loud. Lol
I just wish I could afford one of these trucks!
I have a Blue Ox distribution anti sway hitch to lend you if you are willing to do this exact same test with 7500 lbs towed.
Need it back of course, did my research before buying. It's a top of the line weight and anti sway hitch. Setup correctly, the rig feels like you are riding on rails.
I have an F-150 V8 towing dry weight of 6700 lbs. Would really like to see how the new diesel with 10 speed compares to my V8 as I'm faced with a choice of either putting in a tuner and air intake for 10% more hp/torque or upgrading.
Thank you.
i'm curious what would happen at 10 000 lbs!
They'd pull it.
Basically the same fuel cost per mile with the EcoBoost and PowerStroke, but the PowerStroke is more expensive to own and buy. The 2.7 EcoBoost would be an even better competitor for the PowerStroke.
which better and reliable , Ecoboost gas or powerstroke diesel?
So what are we talking here in regards to purchase price for these engines? $1500 for the 5.0, $2500 for the 3.5 Eco, and $7500 for the Baby Powerstroke?
If I was occasionally towing I'd stick with the V8, more often would benefit from the Ecoboost. Anything more, for the money I'd step up to the Super Duty and call it a day.
0r 995 for the 2.7 that does what 75% of what most people need in a half ton
They are engines,…not motors. Motors are electric. Engines are internal combustion that require fuel. I’d take diesel power over the 3.5 eco any day. I had a ‘12 Eco and it sucked gas like crazy while pulling my 23 foot bow rider. And never stayed in overdrive even on level roads. My tow vehicle now is a ‘15 F250, 6.7. Now THAT!…is a towing machine.
"Diesel hp"? What is that supposed to mean? The hp rating is a facade. It's just a rating of how fast the work gets done. NOT HOW MUCH WORK GETS DONE!!!! If you break down the hp ratings of the different engines you will see where the capability lies.
5.0 395hp@5750 = 360lbft.
3.5 375hp@5000 = 393lbft.
3.0 250hp@3250 = 404lbft. Eventhough the diesel has the lowest hp it has the most torque at rated hp because the speed is slower. Same example for the HO 6.7L cummins with 385hp@2800=722lbft vs ford 6.2 V8 385hp@5750=351lbft. Theoretically they "can" do the same work through gearing, at the cost of reliability, durability, and fuel economy. Also who wants to listen to a truck scream at 5750rpm for any amount of time. The reason that diesel was so good at towing is the peak torque is at 1750rpm so it can peak all the time. That same applies for the EcoBoost vs the 5.0. There is more leverage(torque) at a more useful rpm(peak is 3500rpm)but it has more than 420lbft at 2500rpm. Where as the 5.0 doesnt cross the 400lbft until 4500rpm, but the torque available torque at 2500rpm is less than 250lbft. That's a huge difference for out of the hole pull and more importantly my sanity, and wallet on long steep grades lol
Jnk26 - your review was better than the video. I thank you for that!
Looks like the weight is more then 5000#S.. that trailer alone is prob 2500 or so and that tractor looks big to only be 2500. Plus the trucks were squatting as if it was more
U forgot the 2.7 EcoBoost it was suppose to be in this video also
My 3.0 towed my 21 ft boat at 75-80 mph from Pittsburgh to Erie and back when outside temp was 85 degrees, AC on and I got 25.6 MPG!
Best truck ever!
Looked at one but will never drive enough mimes to offset the higher cost of the engine and fuel
Towing my 10000# travel trailer and getting 18mpg with the mini oil burner, beyond impressed, well worth the extra couple thousand in fuel savings alone. Daily combined driving averaging 31mpg.
I agree
I Love My New F150 3.5L Twin Turbo FX4👌
You got to be kidding! You can get 3 new ford trucks for a test, but you can't get an equalizing hitch to do a real world test with an 8000 lb rv ??
You didn't give specs for the diesel. Horsepower, torque , towing capacity.
Great video thanks for your time and review
Please tell me how the 5.0 is tried and true old school when it’s got every bit of technology the ecoboost does , which by the way the 3.5 has been around longer in non turbo form and the same amount of time in turbo form as the 5.0 . Your statements have ppl thinking the 5.0 is in some way related the the 5.0 that was in the mustangs and f150s in the 90s and I don’t think it even shares a nut or bolt with that engine .its no less related to the old school 5.0 as the ecoboost is . You need to factor in maintenance , DEF fluid and repairs with the diesel before making the call. The diesel may pull well on your test with only 5000 lbs , with heavier trailers on hills it falls way behind the 5.0 and a mile behind the ecoboost. I still feel for maximum towing and performance you can’t beat the 2.7 or 3.5 ecoboost.
Tony, while they share many parts, they aren't the same. The heads, cams, intake, and any other number of parts are different. They're the same "family" of engine, but the 5.0 in the F150 isn't the same 5.0 in the mustang. If you had spent more than 5 seconds to look them up, you'd have known that.
@Tony Melo the coyote came out in 2011 dude. The 3.5 in what 07? So op is right. You look stupid
I’m guessing that’s every bit of 8000#s and then some
Love my F-150 with the 5.0 and wouldn't change it for the world.! I know later on, when the warranty is out I can still put a wrench to it. There is nothing like an aspirated engine..old school and old power. :)
My 11 FX4 5.0 has 242k on it and has needed no mechanical repairs at all. I have replaced the driver door lock actuator and fixed (@ no cost) the flapping fuel door. But my sister's 11 EcoBoost (@145k) is a monster! Faster and more fuel efficient! No mechanical repairs on it either but did the same fuel door fix on it a few months ago.
have a 2.7L that is amazing when regular driving. And it goes terrible with mileage when towing. Looking at diesel. Thanks for video
The f250 is fast. 25 psi launch and your out of their
Rams ecodiesel would never ever ina million years be able to be in 8/8 gear with that load. Ive have one for 4 years and theres no way. Ford knows whats up
the dude on the left should better not eat the big Sub and skip lunch
Just bought a 2019 5.0 ffs
Thanks Gentlemen
Thank you for making the video! Love my 2017 ecoboost. But that diesel sure looks impressive
Don't forget about the $1 more per gallon of fuel and the DEF that it probably needs.
It is. I had 3 different 3.5 Ecoboost trucks and the 3.0 is by far my favorite ever!
BUY A 5.0.....LEASE AN ECOBOOST..!!
"THATS ALL YOU HAD TO SAY".
BUT DIDNT.
Tell that to my 180k mile EcoBoost
Your basis for judging the towing performance on the trucks gear position is irrelevant. For each engine, the transmission program mapping is different. The transmission program is designed to keep the rpms in the torque peak depending on the engine type. Of course with the 5.0 the transmission will want to pull in 5th gear, it's peaky torque curve requires the high rpms. The Diesel is programmed to shift into every high gear possible because, 1- it doesn't rev high and 2-its flat torque curve starts at 1300rpms 3-programmed for fuel economy no matter what it will use 10th gear every single chance it gets.... the 3.5EB program is in between..... your judgment using fuel efficiency however is a good basis point....
Really, this review did not tell the audience much than what is already known about fuel efficiency when towing.
Also another point, I found the presenter very annoying as he couldn't stay put in one place while standing, seems like he had too much coffee.... it was really distracting in your video.
Wow, relax.
Great no-nonsense video guys!
Have to admit I'm an old school 5.0 fan trying to love the EcoBoost but still not feeling it. Love the diesel but seems to me the price to play is an incentive from Ford not to buy it... too bad.
once again, 3.5 eco is the only way to go.
Only 5k? Damn, I hope they didn't struggle. I've seen front wheel drive SUVs rated for that. I tow 9K+ 5th wheel all over the US with no problem, but the fuel mileage is worse than pulling the same trailer with my wife's 5.0. 9.5mpg versus 10.5 mpg. That is opposite of your little "test".
No gum chewing when making videos😳😉
Or constantly talking about food, no one came here to listen to that...
Yeah but I'm cool with the chewing gum.. who gives.. its utube
I really wish the 6.2 was still available in the F150. The 5.0 isn't very good towing and I have too many reservations about the EcoBoost to trust it towing for years to come.
I own a 3.5 EcoBoost with 180k miles on it. Drives like brand new. You have nothing to worry about
Excellent video. Way better than TFL. This was an actual comparison that matters.
I was going to say the same thing, but u said it first so I'll just agree. Much better real world review
2.7 now
And a 3.3V6
Il take one with the 5.0
Are all 3 trucks lariat
Diesel with a delete
fredkuhn165 eco boost with bolt ones will make easy 450whp and 500TQ
anthony Marinelli and not last. Don’t worry about what I like
I just got home from a trip where I pulled my 7500 lb trailer with my '16 5.0. Got 17 mpg through pretty hilly country, sure can't complain about that.
No hesitation and bog down because you're only towing 5k up a small little incline with a truck designed to tow 13k up steep mountain grades
the silly 6 in an aluminum can. I remember FORD'S better days.....V8's and STEEL..............
That 3.5 would kick the shit out of any stock truck out there. You seem to be quite stupid
@@pointschamp2518 and with STEEL, gonna need to replace them rocker panels in less than 10yrs...
Thanks!
Nobody cares about highway mpg and gears. We want 13,000lbs going up a steep hill. Bunch of whimps
Why did the clowns not state the torque and pull power of the baby powerstroke? Did anyone catch that?
I believe its 250hp and 440lb ft torque
Are these men driving real American trucks or little girls hauling princess toys
5,000 lbs!!!!!! Weak. Get a damn real hitch and do a real tow test up a hill with 11,000lbs
5,000 is what MANY more people will be towing. Any serious buyer who needs to tow 10,000 is looking at an F-250.
It’s still a Ford. Wait until that turbo grenades and smokes that motor that’s not covered under the 100k warranty.
People have been saying this since ecoboosts came out 8 years ago n I'm yet to hear of the turbo being any problem at all
Ryan Hogan this is SO fucking true...
all I hear is denial LOL ford makes amazing motors NA or not 🤷🏻♀️
Derick Tyler 1. Provide some kind of verification, because NO ONE can seem to find this 'exploding turbos' phenomenon, and @. YES, the turbo's AND the engine is covered under warranty the 100K mile warranty, lol. You do realize that Ford's warranty is available to the public, right? Where do you yokels come from???
Very few turbos fail
its as if you are completely unaware that turbos have been used with great success on every imaginable type of vehicle for decades, all the diesel towing rigs have turbos. Its not some far out technology unique to ford, nor is it prone to "grenading"
My 2018 f150 3.5 eco boost. Doesn't do that great, when pulling my 32 foot travel trailer. Gas mileage is terrible! Poor girl, really struggles on take off and hills. My trailer is just under 7000 pounds. I have a weight distribution and sway kit on-board. Again....the struggle is REAL! Lol. Will definitely be upgrading when my lease is up. Thanks for the great video! 😁
Wow! Couldn't ask for a different experience from my 2018 F-150 Platinum with 3.5L Ecoboost. Just got back from a 800 mile trip through the Smokies pulling a 32' Jayco (7400 lbs) and was EXTREMELY impressed with the power. Have NO idea what truck you are driving because it can't possibly be the 3.5L that I have...NO shortage of power on takeoff AND on hills! I was out-accelerating passenger cars. Yes, gas mileage suffers when towing (hope that's not a shock to anybody). I averaged 8 mpg on the trip home at about 70-75 mph.
Brian Howard wow...surprising. What rear gear do you have?
Brian Howard I’m honestly beyond shocked 😳 They have way more HP and TQ than the 5.0 so what would you next truck might be a diesel?
You can tell this dude is straight up lying out his ass..he doesn't own a EcoBoost, and has never even drove one. This is just some ass-clown trying to stir up negative ideas about the EcoBoost. Honestly, I can't figure out why all the hate for this awesome engine, I'm on my second one, (1st a 2011, and now the 2018) and both of them have been spectacular trucks. Maybe all the hate comes from little punks working at McDonald's that realise they'll never be able to afford one? Idk.
Fordfanone both motors can do 150k with just oil changes every 3-5k and nothing will ever break so why not go for the the one with more HP and TQ?
Sooo.....
Matt Winger, soooo... What?
Check your spelling trailer park ... sooo ...
the new diesel looks interesting but youll never sell me on the eco boost