Re-Test: 2018 Ford F150 Diesel takes on the World's Toughest Towing Test AFTER DNF
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Andre has really progressed, he used to be the Russian guy that would check the tire pressure lol. Good job Andre!
I just bought a 2018 lariat powerstroke F150. It's 5 years old and has 23,000 original miles. I'm actually seeing closer to 30 mpgs on the highway with no load. I got the truck for almost 4K under Kelly blue book. With all of the markups everywhere this was very attractive. It looks and smells like a brand new truck. I love it.
For 60k, I'll just get the F250 with the 6.7. Thanks for the review guys
Dan Smith completely different customers but I’m with ya
Or buy an F250 with the old 7.3L or 7.5L in it and still be on the road in 20 more years....and save yourself $40k+ LOL.
or just get a cummins ram
It don't get anywhere near 30mpg, mid 20's if you are lucky. With all the electronic shit and emissions shit they put on them they're not going to get anywhere near 30mpg...well ok maybe downhill in neutral with the engine shut off...or when being hauled away on a flatbed wrecker as I'm sure they'll be having a lot of given the initial test fail of these things.
No thanks, after they added all the electronic shit and emissions those new diesels regardless what emblem you buy are just garbage. You see them sitting on the sides of the roads all the time broke down because of that garbage...I'll take the old mechanical diesels without the emissions, I'd actually like to get home every day.
Nice trick with the ramps, never thought of that. I will definitely use that from now on when working on any double axle!
As a bit of science, could you run the trucks up the grade at the speed of the slowest truck, to compare fuel efficiency? It would be really interesting to compare engine and truck efficiencies at a common output level. Maybe even just one demo - take the 2.7 Ecoboost and run it at roughly the same speed as the Powerstroke.
Or pick a benchmark like 50 and measure mpg
68k dollars. Good lord, you could get a diesel 3/4 ton for less! I think I'll just stick to my beaters.
Dilly Dally you can find a built cummins or powerstroke or dmax and fix any future issues for cheaper than 68k
If you’re paying $68k for it you’re dumb. Just picked one up for $54 fully loaded lariat.
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My 95 OBS 7.3 Powerstroke w 367K gets better MPG and will last way longer than that $68K truck. New trucks make me sad, you almost can't daily a new truck. I daily my 7.3 and I get great mpg like 13-15mpg, but I've changed all the sensors on the truck.
@@jeffm8882 I wouldn't pay that either.
Thanks for a great video, wonderful looking truck must be great them points were flying.
I enjoy reviews that FLT puts out however pre-production trucks shouldn't be used for testing for testing reviews such as the ike and gold hitch. Wait till the production version is released so it will be the same as every day joe gets. This will eliminate the issues that occurred the first go round and all the negative comments below for a second round of testing. Just my opinion though, continue to put out good reviews guys
Great video and awesome truck. This will be a great truck for those that tow 8k-10k lbs frequently. A little better mileage will help the bottom line. I think if you're towing over that, either get the 3.5L EcoBoost or go up to an F-250/F-350. Thanks for the videos guys. You're awesome!!
Squat: it’s a half ton, it’s going to be “soft”. this truck is made more for daily driving rather than out right towing, even though it has a lot of capacity. The up hill time was slow but dam that was impressive mpg’s for an up hill load. Looking forward to the 100 mi. Loop video.
That good work on Ford. Thanks for the test guys.
I like that Ford is offering a diesel in the F150, but it seems a little rushed. The fact that they had to reprogram the ECM after the issue during the first downhill run reminds me of all the issues they had with Navistar’s 6.0 diesel, which was definitely rushed into production. Maybe I’m wrong, only time will tell.
DanielJaegerFilms it was a pre production vehicle so in other words still being finalised. Was a simple calibration not a hardware issue.
Rushed, no. This has been in the R&D stage for years, It's also why they decided to not release it for the 2017 model and held off to halfway through the 2018 model.
DanielJaegerFilms The 6.0 problems were physical- weak heads, egr, turbo, etc. This was a pre-production computer issue. This motor has been around for years; just not in the F150.
DanielJaegerFilms they rushed it because ram was putting the ecodiesel in their 3/4 ton trucks and ford got butt hurt about being behind them when really that where they have been the whole time. They rush things at the possible expense of the person driving getting into an accident over a vehicle malfunction. My mom got a pretty much brand new platinum edition ford suv and was so excited, within three days it threw a transmission code and went into the same limp mode as the 150 did and the sales rep told mom it wasnt a safe idea to continue trying to get that car so now she has a hyundai elantra GT. But yeah thats why they rushed the f150 diesel project and its a flop just like the 6.0( i liked that reference a lot...good job lol)
The difference is this is a time proven engine from Europe that is rock solid,unlike the 6.0 navistar, which was a clean sheet design that was only built to be an entry level diesel for the price point sales trucks , it was the lowest bidder engine ,they talked it up but it was a piece of garbage that did get the truck down the road long enough to take a truck sale from a freight liner or other that used the more expensive but way more reliable 5.9/6.7 Cummins.
Wow, 64 was lower than I would have expected for a diesel. Will be interesting to see how it stacks up to the other trucks this year.
I thought i was watching 'Off the Ranch' for a minute with that music!
Hahaha. I love the dramatic scene when the dash light goes on
Great video guys
2019 1 ton dodge with Cummins in the Rockies, never need brakes towing 10,000 lbs. It is a towing beast. Going up the mountain at 70 mph, never had to down-shift. Only gets 8 mpg though.
You three were working very hard to say something nice about the truck.
Robert Montgomery that’s how you saw it eh?
There's nothing nice about it, it has a engine in it that belongs in a car not a work truck.
William Todd Most F150 are not work trucks. They are daily drivers. They rarely see work. Now a F250 or F350, those are serious trucks!
William Todd go enjoy your 4 cylinder chevy truck
Sorry can't find a Chevy in my driveway. Maybe you can park your's here and I'll haul it to the scrap yard for you.
Would love to see you guys test the new 2018 F150 5.0 10 speed
This is a cool test. I wish you guys would do a Cayenne Diesel tow Gauntlet test.
I'd love to have a beer and talk trucks with these guys. I think that would be fun
Wow though...just bought a 2018 3500 ltz Duramax for 64k. 68k for a half ton just seems better to go w a 3/4 or 1 ton from any of the big 3
Kyle Riegle Top trim fully specd. You can get Supcrew F150 for under 40k after rebates.
Kyle Riegle good point, things are getting too expensive.
The same inflation that hit the housing market 10 years ago seems to be hitting the car market now. I would rather not give that much money for any vehicle, but at least with a 3500 people use them to make massive amounts of money. This is why I will not buy a newer vehicle until I absolutely have to. My other ones are getting rough looking but they still run and are paid for.
But the Diesel only comes in the higher trim unless you get a standard cab work truck, long bed. It seems to me they only did this because so many people have a hang up over a v6 gas motor being so good. The eco boost is proven technology by now. It is just better. And you can get a 3.5, xl crew cab 4x4, with max towing, and stx package for under $40k with a 6.5' bed. There is no way you can recoup the extra cost you would incur with the diesel.
its only a lariat, there's a king ranch , platinum and limited above this one.
I'm a little surprised at how much this diesel struggled during the climb compared to just about any gas powered truck, all manufactures included.
That being said many are too young to remember in the mid to late Eighties and early Nineties the trucks of the day were the 454cid big block putting out a whole 230-250 hp and around 360 lb/ft of torque. Those trucks were good for about 45 mph towing 9000 lbs up our local 6 percent grade, so in those terms the little diesel performed ok.
I bring that up because all the truck manufactures today have gas engines pulling around that load 60 mph up the Ike....laughing at the trucks of old...
It's purely a limitation of horsepower. Everyone always likes to salivate at the torque numbers, but seem to forget that horsepower is the measure of the rate at which the torque can be applied. It's all math and doesn't take much work to see where the diesel is going to lose it's advantage to the gas engine, in respect to putting power to the ground. There is actually a point in which the little 3.3L V6 base engine will put more power to the ground and walk away from the 3.0L powerstroke. It's purely a matter of engine speed and how the torque is multiplied through the transmission and final drive ratio. It's not rated to pull that much (why Ford?) but the 2.7L Ecoboost would walk away from the 3.0L pulling the same weight.
I agree with you all the way, just expected a little more....Thanks
This is true I've had my 7.3l for 18 years and have had many new f series trucks and they out perform the old 7.3l ten fold in stock form. However in the last 18 years the 7.3 has watched many trucks come and go and fail doing things it's done on a daily basis, my kill count is (2) 6.0 (1)6.4l my favorite of the trucks and (1) 6.7 , meanwhile I'm 500k on a modified 7.3 still going strong
@@desertdieselgang7985 that's why "there's no replacement for displacement". It's not the same thing to have a 250hp 3.0 liter engine vs a 7.3
Yes, I bought new several of those 454s and still have two today. One is a 1995 Chev HD 3500 dump truck with 82k original miles and another is a 1994 Chev regular duty 3500 service body with 78k miles both stock were junk! Since these were for commercial use they only come with a 12 month 12k warranty so after that we started the upgrades IE HD transmission coolers and engine oil coolers plus added elc fans, full exhaust replacement from the head to the tip, new cam, cold air intake, lower temp thermostat, reworked heads and valves.
Yes it all helped but not enough so tried a couple complete engine rebuilds with all high performance parts,,,,,still not worth it and too many issues so bought a couple crate engines from Chev IE low compression 502 ci with 450 HP and one HD 502 ci 500 HP both were given better exhausts, and intakes which on the dyno put out 15% better than rated. This was now getting better until we had people unable to use this power who broke everything from front to back including the engines plus the fuel bills were worst than our full sized dump trucks with 15 liter diesels pulling trailers.
The moral of the story is the new Ram 3500 Cummings or Ford 450/550 diesels we run now are light years ahead of any gasoline engine today in towing, long lasting durability and MPG.
The lightest truck we use is the Ram 3500 and as for those two old low mileage chebbies,,,they are the garbage, fire wood and junk clean up rigs plus the ones the workers or friends can borrow anytime.
I realize this episode is older, but you guys are the closest essence to a REAL USA-version of the 'trinity' Top Gear ever made. (Clarkson, Hammond, & May) Great chemistry, sense of humor covering 3 generations... PLUS you guys add a RUSSIAN & a CANADIAN! In US-based car show! Jolly well done.
Kudos to your producers and whoever comes up with show ideas. Malatav, syrup, and a beer to yall!
Got to love the trailer foreplay.
"Pro trailer backup assist" umm, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you're not a "pro" if you need trailer backup assist. Just name things normally manufacturers!
You aren't a Pro if you need ABS, traction control, stability control, 10+ airbags, park assist, backup assist, trailer backup assist, etc. You shouldn't be driving at all if you need any of those things.
William Todd My '92 Dodge has nothing on it and tows my Toy Hauler all over the US. Can't even tell you how many newer trucks I see on the side of the road with their hoods up.
I took the name to mean it helps average people backup like a "pro". Not a bad name.
No it just gives people who have no business pulling a trailer the idea that having a knob that will backup their trailer will make them capable of handling a vehicle and trailer...and neither have a good outcome. Common sense and IQ tests should be requirements of getting a license, a vehicle, and being able to do anything with that vehicle.
I'm sorry Dave, I cannot backup right now, my sensors are dirty. "WHAT WILL WE DO!?!?!?!?"
Was the diesel F150 unable to maintain 60mph pulling 7k lbs. up 7% grade?
The only times the speedo is shown during the uphill test, it reads 50mph or less.
It was not able to. It seems to be consistent with all I have read about the F150 diesel. Unloaded, it is a good engine, but it performs poorly under even a moderate trailer weight.
You guys need to do the 3.3L V6 run up... I would like to see that!
WOW the little 6 in the Duramax beat it by over a minute
Great Vid .... gremlins in the codes, as long as it’s a quick interface fix vs days/weeks at the shop, not too bad. Kudos to Ford on the new F-150
Glad you’re out there testing & giving information on safely towing capabilities... never would’ve known about decrease in weight recommendations by Ford for elevations without you passing info down nor would’ve known about Ram’s software that detunes engine at elevation.
Educated drivers on the road are better than Hold my Beer guys that are overloaded & barely maintaining their lanes
Yep I'll keep my vehicles that don't have a computer in them to tell them what to do.
Price of 68k sticker is insaine. You could literally get an f250 lariot trim for that price. So why buy less for the same amount of money. Other then maybe ability to fit in the garage. Great video fellas, i figured they'd get it fixed and an even shot at comparison is appreciated. All eyes on toyota for their coal roller!
Dave Lusk because Ford knows people are stupid and will pay it
Because this will get better mpg and ride smoother. But I'm with you if I bought a diesel it would be the big one.
Its for people who want to look cool at the Walmart and to show off to their family and friends. $60k+ for a 1/2 ton truck is about $30k too much. For that price I'll buy a real truck that can actually handle the weight and workload. 10k+ behind a 1/2 ton truck is asking for a wreck. Cool your cute little truck got that 10k+ trailer moving but just hit the brakes in an emergency and see what that trailer puts your truck.
70k is way to much for these trucks they are in no way nice enough and comfortable enough for that asking price and b4 someone says its because of their capability then why is a work truck version 20k less
An 80's F250 was about $20k or less, and was far more capable than the junk they're building today. I'll have to check again but last I recalled my 88 F250 4x4 super cab long bed with the 460 V8 and 3 speed automatic was getting close to 900k miles on all the original drive/power train...only things done have been regular maintenance, belts, hoses, batteries, that type of stuff, engine & tranny have never been opened up. The junk they build today will be lucky to be still on the living side of the world in 10 years.
I love the Ike gauntlet! It’s a fantastic testing ground!
I was wondering if you can do a video about how your able to get the trucks for the Ike gauntlet. Seems like you’d have to have a great relationship with the car dealerships to be able to barrow a truck to take it to the Ike gauntlet and up gold mine hill and put like 800 miles on a brand new truck.
I would still love to drive one of these.
The Microsoft syndrome of beta testing on customer is worrisome in automotive industry. The Tesla recently had an egg on their face when Consumer Reports discovered that their model 3 had inordinately long stopping distance, and Tesla pushed some firmware updates that supposedly fixed that. That's on a long-released car - no one noticed the car takes way too long to stop? Seriously? No one at Tesla tested stopping distance? WTF? When Microsoft does that, it's annoying, but when car manufacturers do that, people will get killed.
I'm curious to see what shakes out on this truck. I had the EcoDiesel Ram - but any savings on fuel were quickly ate up with other costs.
The fuel filter that needed to be changed, and then the oil filter which took a full year and a half before aftermarket filters became available, and then the 10 quarts of Rotella T6 aren't cheap versus a Hemi with 7 quarts of synthetic and a $11 filter is much cheaper - plus no fuel filter to change every 10,000mi too
I ditched the EcoDiesel for those reasons, and I had concerns with it's longevity - already had sensors replaced out of warranty before I traded it in.
It's a Fiat diesel thats the problem. I agree diesels are higher maintenance but I have the diesel Colorado and I do the oil and filters myself. I buy everything online and save money versus buying the stuff at the store. My Colorados fuel filters doesent have to change until about 30,000 miles or 50,000km, and I did those myself it was easy
I love diesel as a premise, but i'm still in school working part time. I just got a 2013 f-150 stx with the 3.7l v6, and it is waaaay nicer than any diesel i could have afforded.
Love it...Steeler Nation in the house !
I get tickled at the guys that say, that ain’t as good as a 250,that ain’t a real truck and their right, it’s a light duty truck, not all of us need a heavy duty truck. I love my 150, but ain’t no way I’m getting near 60 grand for a truck, my 150 was half the cost of this truck and does everything I need it to.
Nathan looks so excited to be there, as usual.
I would be too if I had his job!
Glad to see they got it sorted out. I love trucks but these prices are getting ridiculous, yeah I know I can get a lower model but even those are getting stupid. First thing I look for when buying a truck is of it can be used as a truck. On, off road, does it have power, can I manually shift and the trans acualy holds the gear I chose, can I see out the mirrors with a trailer... all these extra features are way down the list at least for me.
I do want to say thanks for all the videos you do
Thanks
Glad, Ram, Ford and GM are offering small diesels. Love my Ram Ecodiesel.
the best and has NO timing belt!!
EGR alone will destroy them in 150k miles. After that all diesels are time bombs
So ford is not only the only company to submit trucks to this test and fail, but has multiple failed attempts now?
Now you know why they stopped making cars, they fail to compete in a reliable lasting manner.
Kinda surprised there was no mention of the missing exhaust break on this one. Or maybe I just missed it.
That F-150 Powerstroke Diesel Pulling 8700 LBS Went Sorry Up The Hill!
Thank you for providing yet ANOTHER REASON to stick to the 5L V8 naturally aspirated Ford engine.
You do realize that was a computer calibration issue and not a mechanical one correct?
My 3.5l will make a 5.0 look like a peach
@@rustypliers74 until the turbo shits the bed at about 100k been there done that I'll stick to a good ole v8
My fav channel by far! However a penalty should have been given. Ford sent this truck to you for testing and it failed. Redo the test fine but with a penalty.
Kevin Gentry Pre-production truck that they didn’t have to send at all.
The Real John Smith pre production doesn't mean SHIT. You fan boys just use it as an excuse. This is the truck that ppl will be buying in a few months!
John Doe last time I checked pre production means it’s not in production and they’re still working out the kinks I don’t think you know what pre production means
Anyone that has worked at a car dealer has seen many new model release vehicles in the last few years that arrive and already have service messages to reflash this module or that module before sale. The assembly plants have to run and early builds often have software known to not be final and will be fixed before customer delivery. Obviously the software can get revisions at any time in the vehicle’s life. If you have your head up your ass and want to hate then stick your head back up your ass and disregard the truth from someone that works in the business (but not for any of the brands selling half ton PUs).
JynxxRebels it's in production you idiot! Have a reading comprehension problem?? This is what ppl will be getting in a few months!
I remember when XLT 2008 F-150’s we’re going for 20k brand new
Nice and I wish I could afford to buy it,..but these prices are getting crazy!
To all the second chance BS below. Original truck tested was pre-production and not indicative of what paying customers will get. The calibration used in the retest is production and what paying customers can expect. You’d know this if you watched the video.
Yeah, this is an extreme test and is quite indicative of all the minor corrections that come out (software updates) for systems in vehicles once they get released to the public... Mfg'rs try to hit these points in testing, but still have to fix things like "vehicle won't restart after being started for a short period below -20f". From the video they were going downhill and off the throttle, so the grade shift logic probably told some system to do something it didn't expect or like, like the tcm allowing a shift (if they said the exact situation I missed it).... I personally don't see it as a big deal, even if it were a gm. Software fixes are inconvenient, but it's fixable and all human error in cause.
Oh paying customers will get the same piece of shit they "tested" in the video. There's a reason you are starting to see people pulling their old vehicles back out and getting them back on the road, they've got tired of all the electronic control nannies breaking and emptying their wallets.
Jay P then they shouldn't be comparing to the other production trucks thou then!
I doubt you'd be so vocal if it this truck was a Ram or GM that went into limp mode the first time around.
why try and absolve ford and the crap they put out. anything with your name on it should be good to go no matter what surcumstances
There are so many problems with this video, I hardly know where to begin! First off, this is not anywhere near a fair comparison between a 5.0 V8 and the 3.5 EB. That would require them both to be 4WD and have the same axle ratio. Another mistake Mr Truck, is that the 2018 and newer 5.0L is not a 302. It is a 307. 2017 was the last year for the 302 Coyote. Starting in 2018 a millimeter larger bore, thanks to the switch to plasma cylinders, increased the displacement. Just barely staying within the 5.0L window. The 2018 and newer 5.0 has a different block, with a different bore size, different heads, different cams, different fuel injection, different compression ratio, 12:1 vs 10.5:1. Bigger valves thanks to the bigger bore, etc. this is not, as you say, “the old Coyote” . I would really like to give the normally excellent TFL crew a mulligan on this one, and maybe we can get a real 5.0 V8 to 3.5 EB Ike Gauntlet retest with like equipped trucks? Just sayin....
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Hooray!, Shirts with collars, seems a bit more deliberate of a test....
My buddy just bought a fx4 and you enter all the data of your trailer, go through a learning mode, and it will actually back right under the trailer ball.
I think that everyone who want to tow over 8k IBS is going to jump to the f250.
Especially for the price, this truck would be a good if it was in the 35k range and came in an xlt
Needs about 280-300hp and it would be perfect. It's only a little short on power for the 11,500 lb towing
8,700 lbs trailer with 10% tongue weight of 870 lbs on a truck with 1,314 lbs payload. I can see why it squatted 3". You only had 444 lbs of payload available for occupants and 150 lbs to the driver. Do the three of you weight less than 594?
That's the problem I have with half ton trucks, the only way to tow near the limit is to drive solo. Otherwise you're over the weight limit while pulling a trailer thousands of lbs below the advertised weight limit.
Shawn Hudson where do you see what the payload is for this truck?
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I have a 2017 max tow 3.5 and my payload is just under 1600lbs. It would be over 2000 if I didnt have the 20" rims. I wonder if something similiar is at play here? Or is a Diesel just that much heavier?
3 inches of squat before they even went in the truck. Not while they were in the truck. So it wasn’t even fully loaded yet.
Love the beginning this video. 🤣😂
I love it
And to think I'm still rock'n a 2006 xlt supercab. She ain't pretty anymore but her best feature is that $000.00 monthly payment.
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Pre production units on a brand new products always need to be dialed in. Ford employee here and was very concerned about the first run failure till I found out it’s a PP unit. No worries then.
stf-ran exactly. All these people crying about the retest obviously don't understand "preproduction" apparently. I work at KTP and we've ran a few 2019's this week. The window sticker says "NOT FOR SALE" across it. I know there is at least one new color, a new trim option, and a weird 450 option that may be coming as well.
Pennywise has nothing to do with testing the truck it's the fact that it's points for gold hitch. Test the truck all day that's great for consumers but to bring it back to up the score is wrong. Who says they can't run the truck the third time after ford fixes it's squatting issue as they stated , there's a few more points for gold hitch if they beaf up the suspension for test number three.
No worries until the truck goes to limp mode on the freeway at 80mph and you get your ass ran over by the semi-truck you were in front of when your sissified truck decided to shut itself down.
William Todd my 6.7 powerstroke shut me down on the highway with fifth wheel on. Dirty particulate filter. Why can't they give you a 500 mile warning, that way you can get home safe and make appointment at dealer. They would rather risk your life than pollute the air for a few miles.
stf-ran why test a preproduction vehicle then? Just curious because if it's nit a finished product why would you test it? Not trying to argue, to me it just doesn't make sense.
I like the look and interior of the Ford's however not enough to give up my ecodiesel.
Are you going to be able to test the 5.0 this year?
look at the size of that sun roof
Id rather have a veh that can maintain the speed limit towing , rather then a few more mpg's. love my 2.7l ecoboost!!
Southern Nevada offroading and back country I hear ya.I love my 1st Gen 3.5 eco.got 150k with a decent chunk towing Max capacity.
Biggest piece of shit ever!
Plastic oil pan and turbo no thanks.
Let's see what it costs to maintain after 30 years like my idi .
Or if it is even on the rd
@@robh6638 lol.....you definitely deal with oil leaks 🤣🤣
Please test the base model non-turbo V6. I need a control test to compare all these other engines to. How can something be good, if you don't know the bad?
2018 Ram 2500 Laramie Longhorn with 6.7 Cummins engine. $54k NICELY equipped.
Depends on options but you get 350hp 600- 800 lb torque, 2000-3000 payload etc...
$54k.
And you get a cheap, piece of shit peasant truck...
Further proving the EcoBoost is the better truck
MPG is where these shine, we get 33-36 highway without effort and 25-28 city
Let's see a Rivian R1T
Love the boots
Is this a 2018 truck or a 2019 truck the graphics seem to indicate 2018 but the reviewers say 2019 Golden Hitch..I get that the first test may have been last year but that was black and white video where the 2018 graphic popped up once or twice.. TFL does a good job of producing videos just this one seems uncharacteristic of your normally excellent attention to detail. Keep up the good work.
As a Ford F-150 Lariat owner for many years, I can attest to the "there is no replacement for displacement" saying. Gimme the big assed V-8 gas engine.
No half ton is worth 68k! You might as well buy a 250 or 350 for the same money! It's all about the bang for your buck!
So TFL Truck, what if the Eco Boost 3.5 (because you know it is faster up the hill) ran up the hill with the same setup behind this one, at the speed the diesel can do? That way you can see how the Eco boost mileage will improve, considering how slow this one is?
Just an idea.
Also, I know my 2018 Supercrew F-150 4x4 mileage on the trip computer is about 5.5 behind what it shows.
If you knew they are off, optimistic in my case, and you applied it to the mileage might be more exact.
Nice Job guys.now my question is can I get a raptor with diesel engine?
You can't expect a small displacement engine to have any sort of significant engine braking. I never understood why you guys just let the thing sit at redline. It doesn't have an exhaust brake and 1/2 ton trucks aren't semis, use the truck and trailer brakes like a normal person.
OneOneNineFilms that’s true. There’s no jake on these small diesels
I am a Ford person for sure, but after seeing all of Ford’s fails on your tests I get the impression that they aren’t quite up to the job of towing. Then again, this truck’s problems were due to being a pre-production vehicle.
Of course not, they're 1/2 ton trucks they're built to show off not be towing heavy loads, maybe your little boat, popup camp trailer, or a small travel trailer, but not huge 7k+ trailers...that's what 3/4 and 1 ton trucks are built for.
Ford as well as other manufacturers love to play the towing/hauling numbers game but in reality they don't give a shit because once they have your money they're out of the picture, so when you hookup to that 12k trailer because Ford says that little 4 cylinder F150 can tow it and you go plowing through a line of cars that's your fault.
May I ask how the redeveloped 5.0 f150 compares to the EcoBoost engine? I really like both and deciding between the 2 in real life drving aspects. Thanks keep up the good work!
Get the 50 and throw a blower on it. Done and done
@@boho3785 The one advantage to the 5.0 is reliability but once you bolt on a blower that goes out the window plus they're prone to overheating. The EcoBoost will get better fuel economy, cheaper, and more reliable than a blown 5.0
Mark thanks. I assumed unless you went high boost some reliability stuck around. But since ecoboost has factory warranty....will probably win economically
Another category that needs to be added is longevity for work performed i doubt the eco boost will hold up after time like the v8 and the diesel.
Fuel savings??? When you pay for def egr valve problems nox sensors u won't. Be saving nothing
Or a 125$ on a good day for oil change and fuel filters. Yeah gas trucks are the way to go unless you tow constant heavy weight that 13mpgs vs 8 mpgs a gas truck gets
timing belt!!
30+ mpg pays for allot of things. If you can't afford $100 oil changes you need a used and cheap truck, not a new one. The Eco boost has 2 turbos to fail and still has water problems in the intercooler etc etc
There’s nothing about this truck that justifies that price. You simply aren’t getting enough truck for the buck. If you see any of these on the road in the future the odds are the owner isn’t very truck savvy.
You're right but people here in the US are dumb enough to pay the price so automakers will continue to artificially inflate prices until people stop opening their wallets.
Well you are truly ignorant of the product. This truck has more options than the average Lexus. It will steer, stop and drive itself. Lane keep assist, auto stop, radar cruise, Has air conditioned seats, the only glass that isn’t power is the windshield. Tail gate is cool, 10 speed, power step. I’m not saying it’s a good idea or a good value but to SOME people having all this stuff is important and Ford is way ahead of dodge or Chevy in the technology department. I sat in a 50k Lexus and the f150 had more options more cache and guess what? It was faster off the line.
@@clintmullins4406 I know this is a long time ago but... thank you!!! Alot of people don't understand this!!
I must have missed it in the video...did they ever say why the first truck broke down?
Can some do a 4x2 30+ mpg towing test plz????? Preferably a Lariat extended cab. Which I think would be the cheapest civilian purchase option for the diesel. And should receive better MPG than the full King Cab 4 door. would love to compare the 4x4 to the F150 diesel 4x2 in towing mpg on your 98 mile loop.
Nathan didn't look to impressed with that truck, I would never pay almost 70K for a truck sorry
Do you remember when Andre didn't really speak English, well look at him now.
2018 F-150 Powerstroke, 125k miles getting 33-36mpg highway at 68mph and using 1oz FPPF cetane boost (2EHN) per 10gal
Why havent you tested the 3.3L v6? seems like it could be a good daily driver. no turbos to worry about. 5000lb towing which is probably enough for most people needs that use it as family hauler.
You know was crazy. Some people will buy this thing and they will say they got a great deal on it
I got a great deal on it :)
Literally just watch a video on 3.0 duramax and someone comment on how my problems he is going to have with the chevy and how his 3.0 ford is bulletproof and has never even heard of any issues with them at all so i sent him this link...
For the price why wouldn't you just get a super duty?
For some it's a size issue.. super duty trucks are huge..
Price difference is extreme too vs 6.7
I’d get this still !
The buttons on his vest were about to take someone's eye out lmao
68 grand is too much for an F-150..
For $68000 I'm buying a f250 powerstroke.
Matt Lopez no one is paying that much after all discounts. People are getting a $10k minimum discount for these models and 0% financing.
LOVE THESE VIDEOS. BUT I WISH ALL TRUCKS HAD THE SAME EXACT TRAILER LOAD/ WEIGHT SO WE KNOW WITH WHAT TRUCK GETS THE BEST TIME MPGS ECT WITH THE SAME WEIGHT..
When you test these trucks up the gantlet are they equipped with a transmission oil coolers?
Yes they have a fairly large trans cooler
For that price u can get an f250 with a 6.7 powerstroke
FORD4LIFE73 lariat at that!
14mpg vs 24mpg, F-250 much heavier truck and also larger if you don’t need a super duty.
LOL 6.5ft is a long bed. Isn't 8ft a long bed? Does anyone even get a 8ft one anymore? I what I would need, but I would never find a used one out there.
Travis Alexander you can't get an 8ft bed with crew cab in an F-150 but I think you can if you go to the F-250 and up, Toyota Tundra has an 8ft bed option but you wouldn't have the same leg room in the back seat because they shorten up the cab
It's the longest bed you can get with the f150 supercrew. Should they call it the "Longer" bed instead of "Long" bed? Would that satisfy you?
I'd prefer they called it a full short bed. That seems more accurate.
Travis Alexander
Tundra had one for 10 years 300k
A -Carpenter You can't get an 8' bed on any 1/2 ton crew cab. You can get a supercab F-150 with an 8' bed.
Did y’all use a turbo brake when going downhill? Does the 150 have that available?
Not on the F150
Wow. That is pricey. I love Mr Truck's style. Truly American.
thanks
Why in the first attempt show the odometer at over 2700 miles and then on the re run, the odometer was at 700 miles? Was it not the same truck?
It is indeed the same truck. You are not seeing the entire odometer there.
Oh ok, I see it now. Thanks for the quick response guys!
1st truck D.O.A.. 😂😂😂
Appreciate the effort guys but not feeling the re-run, would rather see a new test of another vehicle
Nice Baby Truck
They should put this engine in the ranger for one of their SUV's