@@Adar195 Sometimes the middle movement was merely a cadence (as someone else mentioned) and the harpsichord or another instrument was expected to improvise over it as an interlude, not really a "movement" on it's own. So it's really two fast movements, with a little break in between. Rarely was anything written out. Since the harpsichordist was probably Bach himself on the first performances, he could do anything he wanted!
@@seeburgpiano9246 thank you very much for your kind cooperation. As you mentioned having gaps between compositions for improvisation was a really good trend which enabled the performer freedom to give something of his own in the composition.
I love how 5:29 suggests a cadence into g minor but instead of just resolving on g minor it instead resolves to g major bringing us back to the main melody introduced at the beginning of the movement.
i love how he writes this beautiful transition into g minor at about 4:55 but then just pretends it never happened at 5:33 when he just goes back to the main motif
What were the circumstances of that incident? I seem to remember him doing something like that while a student, but I thought he used a walking cane to whack his adversary with a few good licks which earned him some harsh disciplinary action by the school.
@@emmawilliams16 -- that sorta rings a bell with me, as well. I think Bach had had industriousness and high standards for quality instilled in him during his formative years by his no-nonsense elder brother. So, from early on, JSBach was not one to suffer fools gladly. One story I think comes from his Cothen years when he was Kapellmeister for the St. Thomas Church, he, one day dressed down a singer in the choir telling him/her that he/she sings like a goat. A goat?! Johann, really! Arguably course and blunt, it's descriptive of a composer who spares no effort in crafting music for the Lutheran liturgy and who simply will not countenance a sloppy rendition of what he wrote. On this alleged incident of JSBach using a knife in a dispute, a little research is called for to either confirm or debunk. I just had a memory flash that there was such an incident when he was a teenager where he drew his sword on another boy in defense of his honor
This is something I like about Bach - he was still an ordinary person, known to have had the same petty arguments as us. I think it's charming that this god of music with such a depth of soul and imagination could be mistaken for anybody else on the street.
I was told by a music professor that the Baroque era was a time when musicians would be given "boring" pieces to improvise upon, like today's jazz. This is an uncommon case where Bach evidently invited the 1st violin and/or the ensemble to come up with something that ended on those 2 chords. One recording (1) I have of St. Martin-in-the-Fields' chamber orchestra playing this has them playing a "believable to the amateur ears" piece for the second movement that sounded great; when I saw the score of the original concerto, I thought it was incomplete. (1) This was from the 1980s, before the classical music Powers That Be decided that all Baroque pieces must be played with period instruments and period techniques. Personally I think such an interpretation sounds too dry; your mileage may vary.
You have done a awesome job of the scrolling music. I haven't picked up my violin since I was 28, and I was able to enjoy the scrolling musics overy much. Thank you for uploading this video. Very enjoyable.
Such a cogent piece of music. I had to listen to the whole thing in one sitting! Also seeing the interplay of quarter notes, eighth notes, and sixteenth notes as worked out between three sets of instruments with high, middle and low registers (from left to right in the score) - that's amazing, I don't think I've even had that experience on this channel before.
The 2 chords in the 2nd movement form a Phrygian Cadence- which was a very common way of ending a movement in those times. It does a great job of creating a feeling of anticipation for the coming movement. It goes iv6-V
I think "copied" isn't really true. Surely he got inspiration, like all great musicians got from other great musicians, but "copying" in my ears sounds as undermining Bach's own capabilities. Transcriptions is a totally different thing of course :)
Com essa obra de Bach temos um tema característico repetido com as mais diversas nuances tonais (harmônicas) o jogado num entrelaçamento textural criativo. Bach é exuberante!
Were you wearing headphones? If not, you may need to use a bigger speaker. Small speakers can't play low notes loudly and actually use an auditory illusion to play them. I know i can't hear the cellos on iPhone speakers.
Renji Mao It's called a Phrygian cadence. Thinking in E minor it's IVb - V. The thing is that the next movement is straight back to G major. So the cadence sets up a false expectation. However middle movements were normally in the relative minor (in this case E minor) so it's in the right key for a proper middle movement if there was one. Anybody want to add to the debate as to what Bach was thinking here? Did he just want to provide a vehicle for a wonderful improvisation from the 1st Violin (as here) Did he run out of ideas (unlikely) Or did he just decide that two movements was what this piece needed (a bit like Schubert's so called unfinished symphony)?
Renji Mao When we played this in our Youth Orchestra, our principal violinist played a violin cadenza that lasted for just over two minutes, and the final section lead into those two chords; all a matter of interpretation.
if you see all those notes... that's obcene!!!! amazing! astonashing!!!!! make me an insignificant point in the world!!!! JSB the best composer ever!!!!!
Sony Kroket a lot of notes was like an expression.... people around me (and read my comments) don't understand nothing 'bout music.... not like you, evidently..... Some people never heard "Classical Music"... sorry
This was the rock and roll of it's day. I can play all 3 movements. Fun fact: the 2md movement has only 2 notes and is the shortest movement in the history of classical music. That 2 notes is actually a key, or a clue. How you extrapolate on that 2 simple notes is absolutely up to you. Karl Richter plays this differently as does Claudio Abbado.
Can anyone shed any light on why the Adagio is so short? Would it have been expected to be improvised similar to a V7 lead into a cadenza in a concerto?
G-D7-G7-G#dim7-A7-F#dim7-Bdim7/F-C#dim7-Gm/D-C#dim7/D-Gm/D-D7b9-Gm etc…in the B minor mass (crucifixus) he replaces that functional C#dim7/D with Eb7/Db…simply by changing that E natural to Eb. I would have preferred that here as well (yes the dissonant D pedal can stay or go in either case)
I'll always believe stuffing the second movement full of improvisations negates the impact of those two chords, like Bach taking a breath before starting the third movement.
Mario Pizzol yes! very much so. we sound very good so far. my orchestra teacher gets a little ambitious at times and takes us at full tempo, and that’s when we stumble a bit, but we have the majority of it down.
@@veganmocha Perfect! By committing ourselves, you will certainly succeed. It would be interesting if you then share it here. Good luck! More greetings.
Mario Pizzol hello! it’s been a while. i played the concert in june and i am happy to say that everyone was amazing. we were able to be up to tempo and the crowd loved us! unfortunately, i forgot to ask my mom to record us :(. with love from the states
This makes me dizzy. I am a musician, and the scrolling bars on this video seem to be so far behind the beat! This shows me how far ahead I look when I play. I would wager that most musicians do. The moving bar here lands on the notes exactly on time, but my mind has already moved on.
AGREED!!! Bad BAD format. I could deal with smaller scores. Scores Should be stacked NOT Three side by side...I Look 1-3 measures ahead as well....(Separating the three sets into 3 separate videos would be Optimal...maybe)
OK this brings up the question: Are you 1-3 measures ahead when you're sight-reading a piece for the first time or only after you've rehearsed a piece several times and the phrases are already familiar and you're following the score just as a memory aid to trigger the next phrase?
@@lohphat well in sightreading it is typical to be a few bars ahead so you can attempt to rehearse it in your head. Nonetheless, when listening to music with a score presented, it makes sense to read it bar-by-bar rather than as if it were being performed.
Just takes a little getting used to, but very much worth the effort. Start with Gerubach's moving scores without the vertical bars, such as the keyboard music.
movement 3 by MOOG in the 60s was what captured my young mind to become a classical musician. Been all there done all That. Broke as Mozart but I don't eat pork chops.
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“Yall are just skip the slow movement anyway so why bother” -Bach
jlapierremusic did he actually say that or is that a joke
@@_____c___482 no he actually said that
Heilige Roekoe 😂
@@heiligeroekoe6347 True, except he said y'all in German: Scheißköpfe
I was just about to reach for the mouse to skip the slow movement....
The 2nd movement is by far the best movement of this
ikr
can you please explain why the second movement is the way it is?
@@Adar195 Sometimes the middle movement was merely a cadence (as someone else mentioned) and the harpsichord or another instrument was expected to improvise over it as an interlude, not really a "movement" on it's own. So it's really two fast movements, with a little break in between. Rarely was anything written out. Since the harpsichordist was probably Bach himself on the first performances, he could do anything he wanted!
@@seeburgpiano9246 thank you very much for your kind cooperation. As you mentioned having gaps between compositions for improvisation was a really good trend which enabled the performer freedom to give something of his own in the composition.
3rd is for me better and 4th is my favorite
I blinked and suddenly missed the entire second movement...
Then you probably clicked another vid's hitbox while blinking.
You are supposed to improvise on those note on the 2nd movement.
I love how 5:29 suggests a cadence into g minor but instead of just resolving on g minor it instead resolves to g major bringing us back to the main melody introduced at the beginning of the movement.
Bach: **writes 1st and 3rd movements**
The 2nd movement: Am I a joke to you?
It's meant to be the end of an improvisation.
i love how he writes this beautiful transition into g minor at about 4:55 but then just pretends it never happened at 5:33 when he just goes back to the main motif
no fr why is that kinda funny
This video is amazing, unlike any other Bach video. The scrolling is in time, and it actually scans each note as it it's played. Great work!
One of the most beautiful brilliant pieces ever written
As are almost all of Bach's compositions...
Agree
Bach once pulled a knife on another musician for making fun of him... pretty gangsta!
What were the circumstances of that incident? I seem to remember him doing something like that while a student, but I thought he used a walking cane to whack his adversary with a few good licks which earned him some harsh disciplinary action by the school.
robbes7rh as a bassoonist, I seem to remember the incident had something to do with him disliking one of the bassoonists in the ensemble!
@@emmawilliams16 -- that sorta rings a bell with me, as well. I think Bach had had industriousness and high standards for quality instilled in him during his formative years by his no-nonsense elder brother. So, from early on, JSBach was not one to suffer fools gladly. One story I think comes from his Cothen years when he was Kapellmeister for the St. Thomas Church, he, one day dressed down a singer in the choir telling him/her that he/she sings like a goat. A goat?! Johann, really! Arguably course and blunt, it's descriptive of a composer who spares no effort in crafting music for the Lutheran liturgy and who simply will not countenance a sloppy rendition of what he wrote. On this alleged incident of JSBach using a knife in a dispute, a little research is called for to either confirm or debunk. I just had a memory flash that there was such an incident when he was a teenager where he drew his sword on another boy in defense of his honor
@@emmawilliams16 He pulled out his knife for self defense against Geyersbach a bassoonist as he attacked him purposely
This is something I like about Bach - he was still an ordinary person, known to have had the same petty arguments as us. I think it's charming that this god of music with such a depth of soul and imagination could be mistaken for anybody else on the street.
i had fun karaokeing along on my viola
slateflash muawhahahaaaa
This has always been one of my favorites, viola play as well.
One of the few pieces which can have this question asked about the viola: which part?
SAME
@@rafeverao4105 The most true thing about being a Viola player.
Thank you for your feedback. It is greatly appreciated.
:) kool stuff
I was told by a music professor that the Baroque era was a time when musicians would be given "boring" pieces to improvise upon, like today's jazz. This is an uncommon case where Bach evidently invited the 1st violin and/or the ensemble to come up with something that ended on those 2 chords.
One recording (1) I have of St. Martin-in-the-Fields' chamber orchestra playing this has them playing a "believable to the amateur ears" piece for the second movement that sounded great; when I saw the score of the original concerto, I thought it was incomplete.
(1) This was from the 1980s, before the classical music Powers That Be decided that all Baroque pieces must be played with period instruments and period techniques. Personally I think such an interpretation sounds too dry; your mileage may vary.
GOOD EVENING GENTLE LISTENER AND WELCOME TO DISTRACTIBLE
Thanks for uploading, a well known piece but so complex...the scrolling just adds so much to the enjoyment!
I always feel breathless and in tears when listening to Bach, and this concerto is one of my all time favorites.
sorry i couldnt watch the entire video. the second movement was just too long for me
+firewolf117 thats the joke
Good evening gentle listener
You have done a awesome job of the scrolling music. I haven't picked up my violin since I was 28, and I was able to enjoy the scrolling musics overy much.
Thank you for uploading this video. Very enjoyable.
Stunningly beautiful. The last piece is perfection. A gift from G_d to J.S. Bach and to us all.
Such a cogent piece of music. I had to listen to the whole thing in one sitting! Also seeing the interplay of quarter notes, eighth notes, and sixteenth notes as worked out between three sets of instruments with high, middle and low registers (from left to right in the score) - that's amazing, I don't think I've even had that experience on this channel before.
OMG we're playing the second movement in orchestra AND IM DYING AT THE E MINOR PART. IM NOT GUNNA MAKE IT THROUGH THIS CONCERT.
This tempo is the best for this masterpiece. I can listen to this all day long. Beautiful.
The first movements of this concerto and the first Brandenburg Concerto are some of my all time favorite Bach pieces.
If I listened the the 2nd movement for the first time and I wasnt told the composer, I would have to say it was Vivaldi.. sounds so similar
+TheOneAndOnlyZeno 'cuz is baroque line... check composers......
bach really copied vivaldi's style and learned music in the italian style. he even transcribed a few of his pieces.
LiamH101 ok, I accept u're idea, or whatever........
The 2 chords in the 2nd movement form a Phrygian Cadence- which was a very common way of ending a movement in those times. It does a great job of creating a feeling of anticipation for the coming movement. It goes iv6-V
I think "copied" isn't really true. Surely he got inspiration, like all great musicians got from other great musicians, but "copying" in my ears sounds as undermining Bach's own capabilities. Transcriptions is a totally different thing of course :)
I just discovered this awsome channel and I'm at my 5th piece straight. congrats. :)
Nice work on the second movement, I understand now why this took so much longer than No. 2.
WE PLAYED THIS PIECE FOR OUR CONCERT IT WAS FUN
GOOD JOB MARIANA OBANDO
LUCKYY
Got it! Thank you very much! Will change it right away.
Amazing all this music from this time still exists
There’s still so much that remains undiscovered
Com essa obra de Bach temos um tema característico repetido com as mais diversas nuances tonais (harmônicas) o jogado num entrelaçamento textural criativo. Bach é exuberante!
The comprehension needed to formulate an assembly of instrumentation is truly ingenious.
I really enjoy the score scrolling along with the music. I wish the bottom end was louder in the recording though. I can hardly hear the cellos.
Were you wearing headphones? If not, you may need to use a bigger speaker. Small speakers can't play low notes loudly and actually use an auditory illusion to play them. I know i can't hear the cellos on iPhone speakers.
I think this is my Bach favorite concert... This is absolutely fantastic 🤩
I love this recording! What a splendid piece!
Glad you enjoyed it! More to come.
Thank you! This is my favorite piece of music and watching the score scroll by is fascinating.
It is absolutely lovely and fantastic at 2:00
*I am head over heels in love with Bach* 💙
“Good evening gentle listener…”
The scrolling is almost orgasmic! (In a salad fingers voice)
@Oscar S. The Gadget guy Circuts & strings No. 2 *rusty bassoon
Wuts with the 2nd movement?
That's the whole thing, two chords one measure.
Renji Mao It's called a Phrygian cadence. Thinking in E minor it's IVb - V. The thing is that the next movement is straight back to G major. So the cadence sets up a false expectation. However middle movements were normally in the relative minor (in this case E minor) so it's in the right key for a proper middle movement if there was one. Anybody want to add to the debate as to what Bach was thinking here? Did he just want to provide a vehicle for a wonderful improvisation from the 1st Violin (as here) Did he run out of ideas (unlikely) Or did he just decide that two movements was what this piece needed (a bit like Schubert's so called unfinished symphony)?
joanna hague That's what I would like to know too, which is what I asked.
joanna hague Bach running out of ideas? hah!
Renji Mao When we played this in our Youth Orchestra, our principal violinist played a violin cadenza that lasted for just over two minutes, and the final section lead into those two chords; all a matter of interpretation.
if you see all those notes... that's obcene!!!!
amazing! astonashing!!!!!
make me an insignificant point in the world!!!!
JSB the best composer ever!!!!!
+Marcelo Rodriguez today I'm hearing that! and a lot of note it's PORN......... obscene!
a lot of notes!
I luv it!!
"It's PORN"
LMAO
I guess it is to the people who love Bach, or music in general. :P
Sony Kroket a lot of notes was like an expression.... people around me (and read my comments) don't understand nothing 'bout music.... not like you, evidently.....
Some people never heard "Classical Music"... sorry
Marcelo Rodriguez
I understand.Maybe it was lost in translation
would be possible!!!! sorry.....
Anna Magdalena: "come over, my parents aren't home"
Bach: "hang on, I gotta finish my 2nd movement"
Lolll I saw the same thing on instagram 🤣🤣
Awesome! One of my favorites! Thanks for uploading
This was the rock and roll of it's day. I can play all 3 movements. Fun fact: the 2md movement has only 2 notes and is the shortest movement in the history of classical music. That 2 notes is actually a key, or a clue. How you extrapolate on that 2 simple notes is absolutely up to you. Karl Richter plays this differently as does Claudio Abbado.
I am absolutely loving this series!
Replace the 2nd movement with "Largo" from Violin Sonata in G major, BWV1019. That Largo is an expansion of the 2-chord movement.
0:29 - 0:34 is just so dang pleasing. It feels like singing.
Just amazing
me and 13 people in my class wanted to play this so much- but it got outvoted and we were so mad XD
Last year we played the first movement in a concert. It was pretty fun
gerubach, that's beautimus. Thanks : )
5:16 bass plays the f natural half a bar early lol
Thanks for uploading!
So beautiful!
Can anyone shed any light on why the Adagio is so short? Would it have been expected to be improvised similar to a V7 lead into a cadenza in a concerto?
Omg those perfect 32nd note slurs at 7:34
I died.
Whewww at 1.5X playback speed 🤯🤯🤯🤯
Scratch that… 1.25X had me super glueing my soul back together
I rather LOVE Wendy Carlos' 2nd movement interpretation on SWITCHED ON BACH ♥♥♥♥
I believe on the very first SOB record that improvisation is totally 20th century (and 60s!) avantgarde nuts, scared me as a kid ;-)
from 4:43 is outstanding, unbelievable masterpiece.
G-D7-G7-G#dim7-A7-F#dim7-Bdim7/F-C#dim7-Gm/D-C#dim7/D-Gm/D-D7b9-Gm etc…in the B minor mass (crucifixus) he replaces that functional C#dim7/D with Eb7/Db…simply by changing that E natural to Eb. I would have preferred that here as well (yes the dissonant D pedal can stay or go in either case)
I first discovered and played this on the violin sometime in the early millennium.
great piece thanks
Great,i love this,It Really moves me
Excellent! Thanks :-)
Herzlichen Dank!
I'll always believe stuffing the second movement full of improvisations negates the impact of those two chords, like Bach taking a breath before starting the third movement.
Delightful!
There was a fast-food commercial in the middle of this. I am sorely displeased
i have returned because i am now playing the first and second movement in my orchestra for our next concert. so far, we suck
Has something improved?
Strength and courage!
Greetings from Italy.
Mario Pizzol yes! very much so. we sound very good so far. my orchestra teacher gets a little ambitious at times and takes us at full tempo, and that’s when we stumble a bit, but we have the majority of it down.
@@veganmocha
Perfect!
By committing ourselves, you will certainly succeed.
It would be interesting if you then share it here.
Good luck!
More greetings.
Mario Pizzol hello! it’s been a while. i played the concert in june and i am happy to say that everyone was amazing. we were able to be up to tempo and the crowd loved us! unfortunately, i forgot to ask my mom to record us :(. with love from the states
Great work! Pay attention to the bookmarks in the description: mvt. 3 is at 6:20.
That's a great way to experience the music. What kind of software allows you to do this?
Great! Thanks.
Thank you!
Sublime.
300 YEARS OF BRANDENBURG CONCERTS
I just have to say it.... I'm the 2,000th like to this video.... no judgments....
Mvt 2 sounds like a transition in a tv show lol
You are welcome.
second mvmnt is fire
TH-cam gave me a commercial in the middle of the second movement. Now THAT is precision bombing!
8:37 audition time stamp 🤪
This makes me dizzy. I am a musician, and the scrolling bars on this video seem to be so far behind the beat! This shows me how far ahead I look when I play. I would wager that most musicians do. The moving bar here lands on the notes exactly on time, but my mind has already moved on.
AGREED!!! Bad BAD format. I could deal with smaller scores. Scores Should be stacked NOT Three side by side...I Look 1-3 measures ahead as well....(Separating the three sets into 3 separate videos would be Optimal...maybe)
vermontdiva Does it really matter?
OK this brings up the question: Are you 1-3 measures ahead when you're sight-reading a piece for the first time or only after you've rehearsed a piece several times and the phrases are already familiar and you're following the score just as a memory aid to trigger the next phrase?
r/humblebrag
@@lohphat well in sightreading it is typical to be a few bars ahead so you can attempt to rehearse it in your head. Nonetheless, when listening to music with a score presented, it makes sense to read it bar-by-bar rather than as if it were being performed.
Just takes a little getting used to, but very much worth the effort. Start with Gerubach's moving scores without the vertical bars, such as the keyboard music.
movement 3 by MOOG in the 60s was what captured my young mind to become a classical musician. Been all there done all That. Broke as Mozart but I don't eat pork chops.
The first movement is really amazing!
I always thought there were only two movements, thinking that the second movement was part of the third.
3:10
Nice sneak man.
Why can't us see brandenburg concerto no.2 and 5 on mobile and ipad?
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My eye are dizzy!
Lo mejor
Bran 3. Still my favourite
Im playing 1st and Second Movement for 8th grade Chamber Orchestra, oh and I'm a second violin.😨😱😱😨😱.
8:32 yes, a viola solo
Yes! He also wrote brandenburg 6 for a pair of solo violas!
I LOVE 8:33!!!!! Violist here
la música con que programa esta hecha??? gracias si comentan, no me suena a orquesta
Bach why did you make the second movement just 17 seconds?
Why not?
You were supposed to improvise in a given key or smth like that
Simplesmente o melhor é para você giskalenovisk
Did anyone else have a conductor that would shout J.S. BACH when it went (16th)(16th)(8th)?
The Allegro is great
omg now feel like the comments section is scrolling... good god
Where can I get the MIDI?
Can someone telll me how to make it sound less shitty cus I have an audition
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