You are forgetting the most important factor - a new GW CEO. 5 years ago GW almost went bankrupt from a greedy and inept CEO who only cared about selling minis, stopping online sales to force us into GW stores, and suing customers (the idiot even tried to trademark "space marine" lol). After he was ousted/quit, a new guy came in, made radical customer-friendly changes and Warhammer is now more popular and profitable than ever.
"Warhammer is good for your mental health" meanwhile me painting some chaos marines: "*DO YOU HEAR THE VOICES TOO???*" "*IT IS AS THOUGH A THOUSAND MOUTHS CRY OUT IN PAIN*" "*CHAOS GODS SPEAK CLEARLY NOW*"
I got into Warhammer via a recent video collab from Miniac, Goobertown hobbies and the best of them all: midwinter mini's. Then I started to watch more of Guy. And next thing i knew was that i bought my first space marine. :D
@@Jagonath Tbh, the said 40-year-olds probably also have health damage from their day jobs...or just plain mental health damage from being used as slave labour in most billion dollar companies.
The n butyl acetate glue (citadel glues main ingredient) definitely isn't very good for you, I switched to the d limonene testors non toxic stuff a long time ago. After years of using rattlecan primers and nasty glues I definitely think i've done some damage. Memory and reaction times are not what they used to be and i'm only 27. The sds of the citadel sprays are nothing short of terrifying IMO. Xylene/acetone/toluene are a bad combo for anyone to be breathing in.
Warhammer 40k is basically the preschool game of "i have a sword!" "Yeah? And i have a gun!" "yeah and i have machine gun!" "Yeah? And i have a tank!" "yeah? and i have a dinosaur that eats tanks!" "yeah? And i have 2 dinosaurs!" "And i have 10 dinosaurs!" "And i have infinity dinosaurs!" And i have 2 infinities of dinosaurs...!
I was always the asshole that said "I have a comet" and exterminatus the whole thing while everyone tries to think of something bigger. Then final fantasy 7 came out and everyone knew what the Big Bang was, those games never escalated the same again
*"Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows, only that it does."* I mean, uh, welcome to Warhammer, you guys! ^-^ Have a cookie, and let's set up the board!
It has made 40K alot more accessible to me. Not that I plan to pick up models anytime soon (I don't need to get addicted) but I saw a post of some space marines painted in a color scheme resembling that of the 501st Clone Trooper legion so as a Star Wars geek I might want to pick up a few to paint in the various Clone Trooper legions like the 212th, 327th Star Corps, Coruscant Guard, etc. This is not to say I'm not interested in the lore. Reading up on Mangus and his Thousand Sons they're like Anakin's tragic fall to darkness except even worse. Anyway, I'm actually considering picking up Muchkin 40K so that's something I guess.
i've looked at warhammer and seen all the work that goes into it and the lore. But frankly i'm not particuarlly interested in actual gaming part of is. Mostly because: 1.) the costs. Several thousands has to be invested into a game where its sort of hard to know before hand how to build armies. or why you build armies. So you're buying up models without any real understanding of why you are buying models. That and the costs of models is never fun to realistically take. 2.) The players. I'm sure alot of players are good at this but teaching new players often felt more like a stomping hunting ground. Where the goal is to murder the new player than it is to actually teach them how to play. I generally enjoy games where i roll dice, but it does get disheartening as a new player to be used as a "punching bag"
I got into 40K when I was about 11 or 12. Had one of those "kiddie boyfriends". The ones you just go to the cinema with, awkwardly hold hands, and just hang out at their house with parental supervision. He used to occasionally play it with his older brother, and his friends. I occasionally played, but, I had no real idea what I was doing, and it was mostly people playing for me, and I often lost. So I spent a large portion of my time reading through the rulebook, and the old 4th/5th edition codexes. Ended up falling in love with the lore and the setting, despite not playing the game whatsoever, and found a love for painting the models. It's very cathartic, and like you say, is wonderful me-time. I've loved it ever since, and I'm glad that such a diverse hobby, with such a broad spectrum of appeal is finally getting recognition for precisely that.
damn I love how even the two polar sides of the hobby can get along. This little back and forth of PoTT and MwM just shows what Guy meant by having a wholesome, loving community bond. Keep up the good work you lot. MwM, your art is fantastic. I'll look forward to keep watching. And PoTT, continue those brilliant cinematics you do before those wonderfully edited battles. It brings such brilliance and context into your missions
I'm getting a friend into Warhammer. Am I a bad person? It feels like I'm getting him addicted to cocaine only if it was cocaine he'd come out the other end more financially stable.
You are a terible person. But that is not the main thing you need to worry. What army do you push him to buy? Because buying some armies will leave him hard broken. Poor Tyranids ;^(.
I went out several weeks ago with my girlfriend to buy my admech start collecting box and when we got home she told me that she wants to start a sisters of battle army so long story short we now have over $200 in paint two 700 point armies and college debt to pay
The video touches upon there being a race with a look and feel for everyone, and that's how it should be. One of the things I think killed Fantasy was when they turdned every race dark and horrid, eg. Bretonion knights were suddenly brutishly suppressing there subjects in the most grinding poverty imaginable when all my friends wanted was some knights in shining armor with there faithful squires.
@@owenbevt3 I dont think they wanted to turn every race dark, i believe that they wanted to make the world less black and white. So that the humans are not "the good guys" but that everyone has their heroes and villains.
Yeah and he has an army of mad zealots that seek to destroy every foreign life form. Which is why i support almost every Xenos race more than humanity. For the Silent King!
For me it's the lore of both Fantasy and 40k. The worldbuilding, the tone, the factions, and the stories by the many great authors. The world building is vast. The gods in Fantasy, the various internal politics in 40k, it's all so deliciously Machiavellian. It's almost like George R.R. Martin wrote a more high fantasy series. The tone is also to die for. It's simple. Humanity's fucked. Fantasy? Demon worshippers within and without, orks rampaging constatnly, undeath reigns in the southlands, beneath every human settlement there are colonies of evil ratmen, and the nobles are constantly conspiring against each other. In 40k? In addition to the Nids, Chaos, Necrons, and Orks, it's the fact that eventually humanity will fail and the desperate measures taken to ensure the survival of mankind. A few loons worhispping a Chaos God? Planet will probably be nuked to death and the thing is those billions of dead people will probably be nothing compared to the trillions if those idiots worshiping Khorne/Tzeentch/Nurgle/Slaanesh/****l/Chaos Undivided aren't killed. Not to mention the Golden Throne is failing, and when it fails, and it will, humanity will be plunged into a dark ages not seen for over 10,000 years, as supply lines break down, xenos and traitors rampage freely, and even more trillions starve. It's also the fantastic writing by various skilled authors. The Vampire Wars series, Gotrek and Felix, A Thousand Sons, Legion, First Heretic, Betrayer, great books on their own but in an expanded universe? They are beauties.
Martin nicked a lot of the same pile of pop culture (Elric of Melnibone, LoTR, 2000AD, real history...) than the makers of WH did. The High Elves and Dark Elves have a lot of Melnibonean in them, ELDAR is Elf of the Stars in Quenya etc.
Midwinter Minis I mean, even the transhumanist Martian monks and the happy blue space commies are kinda fkd up when you think about it. Accidentally typo’d a line of code? BAM! Ur a servitor now hav fun. And the Tau? Literally all just mind controlled by the ethereal caste. Big brother is ALWAYS watching... always...
I got into wh40k tabletop 2 months ago and I can't believe how my perceptions of the hobby were so wrong. I thought assembling and painting would be a side thing with my main focus playing the game, but it turns out painting takes an incredible amount of time. This is not a bad thing because unlike what I expected it makes me very serene, it's so incredibly relaxing and you feel great after painting a model to an extent you're happy with. I spend so much time behind a computerscreen it's honestly amazing to switch it up with painting minis, I highly recommend this hobby if you've been looking into it.
Have you read any of the lore or novels they already read like the edgy stuff 11 and 12 year olds like. Plus when you break down the core gameplay loop of any wargame it turns into essentially pushing plastic army men around and rolling dice to determine if you have killed other plastic army men. What’s funny is that Warhammer seems to originally been inspired by the whole heavy metal look and feel and decided to make a crazy nonsense universe that ran off heavy metal with healthy doses of satire. However over time and with the novels it seems people have forgotten the satirical nature of this universe so now you got all these “lore whores” getting upset when you mention female space marines. (Watch out of everything I say in this post only this will be get a response.) Back to my original point a grim dark children’s novel doesn’t sound like it should go together but the sheer absurdity of it makes it seem like a step back to the roots of this franchise. Mainly a universe that doesn’t take itself too seriously because it knows how nonsensical it is. Also a lot of kids already play Warhammer with their parents, friends, siblings, and mentors/teachers. I am not saying your opinion is wrong or that mine is right just wanted to show you how it all looks to me so maybe you won’t be entirely dismissive of something in the future. Iunno I just think the children’s novels could be the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles tv show for the comic and that could be a good thing for this hobby reaching a younger audience might allow for more companies to see their is a target demographic here and make some legit wargames for all ages. Let’s face it kids get shit tabletop games like Candy Land and Monopoly we need more Gaslands and Frostgraves, Life is pretty good it at least has interesting meta stories.
@@MidwinterMinis I'm sure there was a discussion about this with Airfix years ago (when you'd send off to the airfix mag, waited to see if your letter appeared in print and read their reply) Basically they claimed it wasn't worth the effort to sort the colours & type and it was all just too much hassle. However this was back in the early eighties when the world still had plenty of spare trees, icebergs and dolphins, so maybe it is worth looking into doing now?
@@MrVolvobloke also, until recently all of the spruse are just grey plastic, they have other colours now but it wouldnt be that hard, and it would be amazing pr
On top of everything you mentioned, even in 40K alone there's enough for everyone Want to play humans who turned most of their bodies to robots? Ther's Ad mech Want to play human space soldiers? So many different chapters of space marines Want to play some unknown alien race that recently entered the galaxy? Tyranids Want to play something where the entire race lost their personality and eventually became the killer of gods? Necrons Something for everyone to enjoy
Unless you want to play the established wood elves in space, or the well established demon engine makers in which case your up a stream without a paddle. Also Guard are the human space soldiers....marines can barely even be called humans with who know how many implants anymore. Otherwise fair analysis.
Except when it comes to indisputable good guys, of course. Your options are much more limited there: Salamanders, Lamenters, T'au ... On the other hand, homebrew is a very flexible option, and there's a vast amount of room for one to make their very own good guy faction in their own style - it may not be as powerful or significant as the Ultramarines or the Tyranid hive fleets, but you can always be a force for good in your own little pocket of the galaxy.
think it's dumb, sure for drinking bottles and other disposable products, but i mean Lego and minis isn't something you throw away when done with it, just resold and reused.
@@Jupiter__001_ except maybe plastics which can degrade when subjected to special circumstances (so that a disposal plant only needs to meet these circumstances and the plastic will degrade) or just plastic which degrades faster then normal such as ~100 years instead of ~1000. Or just a few decades.
Its wonderful. Something normally that wouldn't normally be enjoyed by a lot of people, now my addictions can be had with more and more people. I love it.
I never thought I would take up modeling and painting miniatures. But it provides a similar escape to fishing. It keeps your mind busy enough not to worry about your life, but not so busy that you can’t relax. And at the end you have a cool little piece of art. There’s something so amazingly satisfying about using this art to play a game - compared to simply playing games with unpainted miniatures or cardboard markers.
An excellent overview, Guy! As a “graybeard” who’s been around (off & on) since Rogue Trader I really enjoyed the “nostalgia” parts (“Squats - Poor, poor Squats”) as well as the comparisons of old & new models. ...and, yes - the paint pots STILL *suck*. 🤬 Maybe not as bad as those god-awful “Bolter shell” pots ...but they still suck. 🙄😖
It was Goobertown and this channel that made me take the plunge back into wargaming after two decades, and I am forever grateful for that. I have since put together a couple of 500 point armies and several Kill Teams, and my painting skill is leagues beyond wha it used to be! Also I am having a lot of fun assembling, customising and painting and I guess that's kind of important as well. That recycling idea is fab. I was literally thinking the same thing as you built up to the idea (well, handing in old sprues to the store, not the rewards) and I honestly think GW should get into that.
This channel taught me how to play Warhammer 40k back in February, now me and my friend are painting our first models after playing virtually for months. I'm really happy to see you getting the success from this channel that you deserve. Your videos feel like I'm having a conversation with you in person, and it is really relaxing to put on one of your videos to paint or kill a half hour. I hope you get as much out of this channel as we do, Guy. Love your content.
As someone who had never heard of it , I got into listening to the lore while I work. It’s super dark , intriguing and very detailed. I think it’s also the fact is so dark and foreboding that people enjoy compared to universes like Star Wars which come off childish and non serious.
what did you listen to, to get a good understanding of the lore? I'm new to this and want to get back into it from when I first was when I was 10 years old in 2010
@@MidwinterMinis I just learned that in these days e=bay is tanking heavily. I mean huuuge posting price increase and taxing all the transactions made e=bay obsolete, at least for me. My last transaction, last month, High Elf Silver Helms musian : Item price around 8 quid. Total price with posting and taxes around 20 quid - insane. Good Ebay days are gone , sadly.
Melting and reusing sprues is in theory possible, but the kind of plastic used is so cheap to produce it’s not really worth recycling at this point in time
@Paladin327 That isn't the point of recycling though. We want plastics to be reused because that way they don't get dumped in landfills, taking thousands of years to decompose. Companies like Games Workshop want to be seen as being aware of environmental issues and want to look responsible for their footprints on it. Promotion of the recycling of the waste components of their product in the way MM suggested here, would indeed do that. Of course it would cost them money to get the received sprues properly recycled.
Interesting you showed a Cadian infantry squad when mentioning Starship Troopers. The resemblance might be there for the film version, but Heinlein's descriptions in his original novel have far more in common with a Space Marine Tactical Squad. They are THE archetypal space marines. Love your work though!
@@MidwinterMinis what about the other imperial regiments. The more well known ones were the Catachan Jungle Fighters (basically Vietnam SOG taken up to 11 thousand who all make Rambo look like Plye. Speaking of Rambo they actually an expy named Sly Marbo. Seriously I am not making this up), Armageddon Steel Legion (modern day mechanised military with ww2 Fallschirmjägers uniforms), Tallaran Desert Raiders (Lawrence of Arabia), Vostoryan Firstborn (19th century Imperial Russians), Death Korps of Krieg (basically every single ww1 army rolled into one with a massive death wish. In the death korps of kriegs comissars have the job of making sure that the soldiers do not waste their lives on pointless suicide charges.), Vahallan Ice Warriors (WW2 soviets. Most famous for Commissar Ciaphas Cain HERO OF THE IMPERIUM!), Elysian Drop Troops (modern day airborne but with grav chutes) and the Attilan Rough Riders (Eurassian steppe nomadic horsemen)
The IG look way more like colonial Marines from the alien franchise than the mobile infantry. The main reason i wanted to start collecting IG was that reason, until i saw how many i would need.
The more people in this hobby the better! I encourage anyone watching this who is new to give it a go! I’ve only been in this community, making models and painting them, playing games and losing them, for a year now but I can tell you that it makes me so happy and proud. Give it a go! Pick up first strike or a little box of troops, some paint and a brush, turn on TH-cam and paint! Anyone is welcome in this hobby and everyone is welcome!
another reason why warhammer is so great is because of the giant war cows made of rock with massive hammers and my parents see warhammer as "grown men playing with plastic soldiers", which i personally think is hilarious, mainly because it's true.
I hardly comment on youtube videos, but this is a brilliant (biased yes, but truly understandable) video. Passionate words shows how much you like this. Once again, congratulations for the video. One of the best, if not THE best video advocating in favor of warhammer.
Bloody hell that's a great passage from Rick Priestly at the start of Rogue Trader there. It boils down so much of what the hobby is about and is ultimately welcoming and encouraging. For such a grim universe the actual people who indulge in the hobby are outstandingly nice folk.
@@jaxrammus9165 that's not a problem for 2 reasons 1. There's plenty of tutorials everywhere, you can get a lot of nice tips to get to at least a decent level 2. A lot of people just play with half of their armies completely unpainted lmao
I recently started my Warhammer army and after only 3 models I can see a huge improvement. While I’m painting space marines only as practice I’m genuinely proud of how each model turns out, and it’s making me even more excited for when I start painting my Adeptus Mechanicus army
If you want to do the sprue idea start a petition. If enough of the bloggers reblog it and they all sign up it might go somewhere (I know nesspresso offered recycling its capsules after pressure). But will it be only GW sprus?
Great video - one of the things I love is how welcoming and supportive the hobby community is - the majority of people I've come across are friendly and inviting, and love sharing their passion and knowledge, but always happy to help out any newcomers without being arses.
Made me super happy you showed off someone's work on a Howling Griffon at 11:40. They're the chapter I started warhammer on, and am still currently in the process of making my first batch of HG Marines :P
I got back into this hobby because of painting and hobby channels like this one, and I can confirm the creative avenue of Warhammer is one of the most satisfying things you can delve into. Creating my own Space Marine chapter and then actually building and painting the models is an accomplishment I'm truly proud of.
Thank you for being awesome Guy you've inspired me to start warhammer 40k and honestly I am very glad thanks to you my goff orks don't look like blobs of paint. Thank you for being here
I first got into Warhammer when my father and I were just walking through a mall and happened upon a Gamesworkshop store and saw the models on display as well some people playing. We bought the Battle for Macragge starter set and from there I was pretty much hooked. I was never the best, but you get better with time and you eventually end up changing armies as time passes on. I started with Spaces Marines only to move to Imperial Guard, then Tyranids, Tau, and now Eldar. I still keep the first brown and green marine I made from that starter set to see how far I've come since then and the people I got to meet thanks to the game. Sometimes the game itself is just a backdrop to hang out with friends, which is probably the best part about it the game that isn't explicitly in the game.
Dawn of War was my introduction to the world of 40k. I thought Orks in space was kinda dumb, not realizing at first Eldar are space elves. But I loved the game. I got into a D&D group that had a play who also played 40k and I recognized the models. Once I learned about the lore of the universe I was all in.
“The awesome feeling of finishing a squad” - Spot on 👍🏻 Great video, great overview. I do miss the Squats. I would love to see them revamped and relaunched. 👍🏻
I first got into Warhammer when I kept seeing FOR THE EMPEROR! comments or DIE HERETIC! I got curious and searched up these terms and I just got sucked into the lore. Out of all the sci-fi books and franchises I've read, played and seen, Warhammer has the most diverse and exotic lore out of all of them. I spent countless hours reading the lore which is impressive because I haven't read anything that vigorously since.... well since ever! I first got Intrested in the Warhammer tabletop game when, surprisingly, my Art teacher mentioned it during class. He brought along one of his space marines (a blood Angel if i remember correctly) He showed it to anyone interested, which was sadly only me, and the next day he brought in a couple more blood angels and even some orks. It was bizarre seeing these things which (to me) had only existed in the confines of my mind as I read through the lore, come to life as these minifigures on the table. My entire interest in the Tabletop side of Warhammer is due to this one moment and that one art teacher.
Man, someone needs to send GW that sprue idea. I keep way too much sprue just because it’s not recyclable (least not where I live) and it feels wasteful to just throw it away
10 years ago I put a full stop to my WH40K hobbying and started my career in music. Just before the lockdown hit, my friend 3D printed all of our party’s DnD characters which I volunteered to paint. The rush of nostalgia in painting minis has made me since plunge back hard into the hobby, making my way through entire pile of shame and ordering all new models. I can confirm what you said about the difference between communities: my friends in music continue to be very toxic while the warhammer community has been amazing.
You’re a genius. You have such a well rounded obvious love and knowledge for this world, and this hobby, and as a new convert myself, you have solidified and help instil in me a deep calm that I’ve been lacking in my life for so long, as a 26 year old mostly addicted to the internet ne’er do well. Great work Guy. You make me proud. And games workshop could absolutely take a leaf from your idea.
The algorithm started pushing Midwinter Minis videos on my recommendation, and since they were interesting, I watched them. Then came the battle reports, then other channels, then 9th edition rule overviews... Now I am seriously thinking about spending a wad of money and time only to get in the game with a 500 point army. Thank you for my new addiction.
@@JavierEscuelIa Now I have a 500 point Thousand Sons army with one exalted sorcerer, two squads of ten rubrics and one squad of terminators. It can't do shit in a fight since Thousand Sons might be the weakest army right now, but damn it, they are still dope ass dust boys. edit: shot -> shit
@@buriedalive3192 Don't worry about them being low tier, they're certainly not last, that might be Khorne Demons (which I have), but it's cool that you got into this hobby with such a good army
@@JavierEscuelIa Aye, and armies rotate around strenghtwise, so it isn't much to worry about. Except of course if the army is some forgotten chaos or xenos faction.
Although I do own a selection of the tabletop models, Warhammer has been and always will be, for me, about the lore and the stories. Whilst I do enjoy building the models, especially the vehicles, and occasionally even gather enough patience to try painting some of them, it's the shelves of novels that will always be my pride and joy from this hobby.
I think there’s a misperception here. GW is paying for more public exposure, not necessarily “so popular.” GW is just doing an excellent job advertising and creating market exposure.
I got into warhammer through the video games mostly when i was 16 years old. After playing dawn of war 2 and reading up on the different kinds of lore behind the wargear you could earn, i started searching for more lore on the subject. afterwards i came across Alfabusa's Emperor's text to speech series and that got me hooked on the actual lore. now i am 21 years old and have begun painting the mini's. my first ones were 3 primaris marines (the easy to build ones) just to see if i liked painting. turned out i had some skill. and have now begun painting an imperial coalition. I am mixing up astartes with imperial guard units as a emergency faction of remnants from the fall of cadia. right now i painted a chimera, leman russ demolisher, 3 marines, sergeant harker (gonna go with my own paintscheme) and have now started assembling and painting an armiger warglaive. honestly, i never thought i would get into miniature painting but here we are.
Thank you so much this video it got me teary eyed as it made me proud to be part of this community. This is one of the best games and I couldn't agree more with this video. Thank you
You are an amazing youtuber you have so much potential never give up TH-cam you will grow every day you are the reason I got into warhammer I enjoy all the hours spent playing the amazing game be proud you are AMAZING with a awesome personality
Fun fact, there used to be a small model store near where I lived and if you brought in 1kg of sprue they'd swap then for a "painter kit" basically 1 basic brush and your choice of 3 small paints.
Great video. Can't believe only just discovered channel. Think we have a 'sort of aligned' background.. spent 7 years in MI retail marketing (Sound Control) and worked closely with your old boss, Mr Alex Marten, among other mutual industry colleagues. Albeit a few years prior.
GW should pay you for this sort of free advertising. Ever since I started back up with 40k (jan last year), your channel has always filled me zealous enthusiasm.
Pretty awesome trilogy of movies from the 70s-80s, had an amazing EU that covers all sorts of cool stuff, probably has more material than Black Library. It even got a revival of sorts around the turn of the millennium with a prequel trilogy, sadly the only movie we've gotten since then was a pretty awesome war movie set between Episodes 3 and 4
I just bought my first squad. I'm really looking forward to getting started! The dauting part for me was selecting paints from the game store, but I think I made an appropriate selection.....I ASPIRE TO THE STRENGTH AND CERTAINTY OF STEEL
Agreed about printing/molding entire model but I love the idea of designing my own shoulder pads and even using certain heads for figures. I really wanted to design a squad and even company with skulls as their helmets ever since I got the terminator chaplain with the skull helmet...
I've spoken to a store manager about bringing in old empty sprues, he said that the logistics of sending them all back to the factory would be a nightmare, and cost more money than they would save, they do have a large reclining centre in Nottingham, but you'd have to go there yourself.
i want to say i love yer vid. i wanted to start painting almost 20 year's , ago. after a rough year last year (brake up, dad got cancer (under controll/cured right now) and had to move because the vibe in that house was utter bad, car accident and depression) i started last december, now got a 1250 Points Tau , 1000 points Seraphon/lizardmen , and now starting with admech and Skaven's. and indeed the community welcomed me in quite fast. i got tips and now i realy take my time to paint.
I almost stood up and applauded after that Rick Priestley quite at the end. I got back into the hobby nearly a year ago after a gap of well over 15 years and I've noticed how much more known GW and Warhammer are now, I used to have to explain to people what it all was and usually get a fair bit of teasing back. Whilst I still don't shout it from the rooftops, I don't hid my interest in the hobby like I used to and people aren't really bothered by it. In fact I took I a recent girlfriend into a GW store on a whim during a shopping trip and she absolutely loved it. The staff were really friendly and chatty, she's got a fine art degree and really enjoyed getting to paint a mini. She even said she could see herself getting into the painting side of the hobby. There were more girls/women in there than boys/men when we went and we both liked that aspect to it, something I would never have believed would happen back in the mid-to-late 90s. The hobby has changed so much for the better, but at it's core it's still recognisable as the thing that got me hooked back in the day. I could go on and on; suffice it to say, I'm happy to be back.
Games Workshop, start listening in at 17:18 - that's a seriously excellent idea! I've long lamented the fact, that there's So! Much! Wasted! Plastic! in those sprues D:
1) it's unique 2) it's fun 3)it doesn't take itself too seriously while also being grimdark, which means that it can appeal to literally anyone from the hardcore grimdark fan to the memelord. 4)it's over the top 5) it's massive, in everything, scale, lore and everything else. 6)you can find it in any form and there's different fandoms within the community itself, i for example like to collect the models, i love the lore and i own virtually every videogame, bad ones included, however i can't be fucked to play the tabletop.
I think it's telling about this community that someone like ArchWarhammer is considered one of the more toxic elements of the community, given how in most others he'd be considered one of the better examples of someone in it
Arch kinda makes sense at least try and gatekeep your hobby because you love it if we observe the other fandoms such as star trek and star wars got wind of the wrong type of people and you probly haven't heard of gamza
@@yt_krg I agree, my point was that he's considered on the more toxic side by Warhammer fandom standards, yet by most other community standards he'd be considered on the welcoming side. It shows how much we as a community follow the ideal of letting anyone in so long as they care for the hobby and community.
i for one would love to see a return of vehicle turning rules, as well as armour values, armour facings and weapon based line of sight shooting. the vehicle rules in 8th edition are so stripped down and boring!
@@MidwinterMinis we'll always have the old rulebooks to reminisce over. Now to get my mates drunk enough to think that a game of 7th sounds like a good idea haha!
Just play with those rules, why is it that the Warhammer community hasn't improved on the really poor rules that warhammer have, it has cool models and lore but the boring rules let it down
I totally agree about having the terrain pieces be made from recycled sprues. It'd be a great way to make less waste and give people more incentive to purchase more kits because then you not only have the sprues to jury-rig into terrain or base decorations, but getting terrain pieces that you can just... paint up however you wish if you want to make a factory or space ship scenario is wonderful!
You are forgetting the most important factor - a new GW CEO. 5 years ago GW almost went bankrupt from a greedy and inept CEO who only cared about selling minis, stopping online sales to force us into GW stores, and suing customers (the idiot even tried to trademark "space marine" lol). After he was ousted/quit, a new guy came in, made radical customer-friendly changes and Warhammer is now more popular and profitable than ever.
just goes to show how a lot of CEO's are out of touch with their customers.
Phew, praise the man emperor the franchise lives on
Until they tried to fuck arch
@@demono6708 and do another price change during a pandemic
@@demono6708
Eh, Arch can get fucked
"Warhammer is good for your mental health"
meanwhile me painting some chaos marines:
"*DO YOU HEAR THE VOICES TOO???*"
"*IT IS AS THOUGH A THOUSAND MOUTHS CRY OUT IN PAIN*"
"*CHAOS GODS SPEAK CLEARLY NOW*"
"I FEEL THE WARP OVERTAKING ME! IT IS A GOOD PAIN!"
I was gonna go more for "FUCKING GOLD TRIM", but that's just me.
I got into warhammer when the algorithm randomly recommended me a battlereport long story short I now can’t stop buying orks
... did someone say ORKS?!
I got into Warhammer via a recent video collab from Miniac, Goobertown hobbies and the best of them all: midwinter mini's. Then I started to watch more of Guy. And next thing i knew was that i bought my first space marine. :D
Ah, the great WAAAAAGH has enveloped you I see! The new Gitz what bring more boyz are aight 'ere.
it happens xd
Very much the same with me, working on my first squad of Boyz and already wondering what should I get next and what might they offer Orkz in 9th ed.
"Warhammer is good for your mental health", as the plastic-glue melts your neural links.
Spare a thought for us 40 year old's who probably have serious lead poisoning by now from handling all those old 80's era minis.
@@Jagonath We also had to deal with the toxic fumes for melting that led into moulds.
@@Jagonath Tbh, the said 40-year-olds probably also have health damage from their day jobs...or just plain mental health damage from being used as slave labour in most billion dollar companies.
Esa Edvik Haha who hurt you?
The n butyl acetate glue (citadel glues main ingredient) definitely isn't very good for you, I switched to the d limonene testors non toxic stuff a long time ago. After years of using rattlecan primers and nasty glues I definitely think i've done some damage. Memory and reaction times are not what they used to be and i'm only 27. The sds of the citadel sprays are nothing short of terrifying IMO. Xylene/acetone/toluene are a bad combo for anyone to be breathing in.
The thumbnails are getting better and better
I couldn't stop laughing when I was making it
@@MidwinterMinis Battle Brother Guy, devestator of the 4th company of the Emperor's Sprues chapter
Midwinter Minis ultramarine?
Warhammer 40k is basically the preschool game of
"i have a sword!"
"Yeah? And i have a gun!"
"yeah and i have machine gun!"
"Yeah? And i have a tank!"
"yeah? and i have a dinosaur that eats tanks!"
"yeah? And i have 2 dinosaurs!"
"And i have 10 dinosaurs!"
"And i have infinity dinosaurs!"
And i have 2 infinities of dinosaurs...!
"Your dinosaur got faq'ed, so it sucks now"
I was always the asshole that said "I have a comet" and exterminatus the whole thing while everyone tries to think of something bigger.
Then final fantasy 7 came out and everyone knew what the Big Bang was, those games never escalated the same again
Yeah, but at how many points ?!?
And I have the Caliban
"lol, your infinity Dinosaurs are getting sold on eBay, after one Nerf. You are way out of the Meta."
*"Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows, only that it does."*
I mean, uh, welcome to Warhammer, you guys! ^-^ Have a cookie, and let's set up the board!
yes
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!! SKULL FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!
@nick van achthoven YUM!
*sad techpriest noises*
i have supplemented all nutritional with a tube no cookies for me
@@dantefromdevilmaycry9857
Ah, you missed the last part: MILK FOR THE KHORN FLAKES
=]
And let's not forget Alfabusa's "If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device" series, that surely helped a lot of people getting into Warhammer.
Yeap, thats what happened to me.
the best introduction to 40k
@Evurblue It's alright, we forgive you
It has made 40K alot more accessible to me. Not that I plan to pick up models anytime soon (I don't need to get addicted) but I saw a post of some space marines painted in a color scheme resembling that of the 501st Clone Trooper legion so as a Star Wars geek I might want to pick up a few to paint in the various Clone Trooper legions like the 212th, 327th Star Corps, Coruscant Guard, etc.
This is not to say I'm not interested in the lore. Reading up on Mangus and his Thousand Sons they're like Anakin's tragic fall to darkness except even worse.
Anyway, I'm actually considering picking up Muchkin 40K so that's something I guess.
i've looked at warhammer and seen all the work that goes into it and the lore. But frankly i'm not particuarlly interested in actual gaming part of is. Mostly because:
1.) the costs. Several thousands has to be invested into a game where its sort of hard to know before hand how to build armies. or why you build armies. So you're buying up models without any real understanding of why you are buying models. That and the costs of models is never fun to realistically take.
2.) The players. I'm sure alot of players are good at this but teaching new players often felt more like a stomping hunting ground. Where the goal is to murder the new player than it is to actually teach them how to play. I generally enjoy games where i roll dice, but it does get disheartening as a new player to be used as a "punching bag"
I got into 40K when I was about 11 or 12. Had one of those "kiddie boyfriends". The ones you just go to the cinema with, awkwardly hold hands, and just hang out at their house with parental supervision. He used to occasionally play it with his older brother, and his friends. I occasionally played, but, I had no real idea what I was doing, and it was mostly people playing for me, and I often lost. So I spent a large portion of my time reading through the rulebook, and the old 4th/5th edition codexes. Ended up falling in love with the lore and the setting, despite not playing the game whatsoever, and found a love for painting the models. It's very cathartic, and like you say, is wonderful me-time. I've loved it ever since, and I'm glad that such a diverse hobby, with such a broad spectrum of appeal is finally getting recognition for precisely that.
Amen
SPAAACE MARRINES
And what of the boyfriend!?! Did the love for him last as long as the love for the Emperor?!
@@RyanFaeScotland My love for him could never match my love for the Emperor. That would be heresy!
The United States Of America you called brother?
Great to hear your insight into this and have content out there for people who are curious about this franchise and are thinking about starting it up.
Thanks! Love your channel, keep up the great work!
I love both of your channels and watch them almost daily
damn I love how even the two polar sides of the hobby can get along. This little back and forth of PoTT and MwM just shows what Guy meant by having a wholesome, loving community bond. Keep up the good work you lot. MwM, your art is fantastic. I'll look forward to keep watching. And PoTT, continue those brilliant cinematics you do before those wonderfully edited battles. It brings such brilliance and context into your missions
Not only 30-40 years old people are getting back into warhammer, their kids are getting into it too!
True
Oh no doubt. My kids have been getting into it lately... Absolutely love it xD
The same thing happened to Star Wars.
Like me (if you’re counting teens)
Thats true i have just started and so fun
Guy; "Recycled Terrain Tiles"
Me; HE IS THE MESSIAH!!!
More accurate: THE LOST PRIMARCH!!!
Such a great idea
@@maciejas2471 GUYS WE FOUND VULKAN
his belly says Papa Nurgle ;)
@@notnubilous3804 I mean 2nd and 11th ones
I'm getting a friend into Warhammer. Am I a bad person? It feels like I'm getting him addicted to cocaine only if it was cocaine he'd come out the other end more financially stable.
Our group calls it
"The Plastic Crack"
and i believe thats beautiful
You are a terible person.
But that is not the main thing you need to worry.
What army do you push him to buy?
Because buying some armies will leave him hard broken.
Poor Tyranids ;^(.
Lol have you seen the scene in trainspotting where Mark gives Tommy his first taste?
I went out several weeks ago with my girlfriend to buy my admech start collecting box and when we got home she told me that she wants to start a sisters of battle army so long story short we now have over $200 in paint two 700 point armies and college debt to pay
@@doctoradventure413 College debt can always wait 😆
Warhammer 40k: grimdark, edgy world of death and infinite war.
Orks: having tons of fun and living their best life.
The video touches upon there being a race with a look and feel for everyone, and that's how it should be. One of the things I think killed Fantasy was when they turdned every race dark and horrid, eg. Bretonion knights were suddenly brutishly suppressing there subjects in the most grinding poverty imaginable when all my friends wanted was some knights in shining armor with there faithful squires.
@@owenbevt3 Except there isn't. I think all the races suck.
*Datz right BOYZ*
Me and the boyz
@@owenbevt3 I dont think they wanted to turn every race dark, i believe that they wanted to make the world less black and white. So that the humans are not "the good guys" but that everyone has their heroes and villains.
that Rick Priestley quote should be framed over any FLGS
Its a very poignant quote isn't it
Because the general populace is starting to wake up and realize that there is only one God Emperor, yo.
Yeah and he has an army of mad zealots that seek to destroy every foreign life form. Which is why i support almost every Xenos race more than humanity. For the Silent King!
Exactly, it will reign we our work is done.
@@Mediados The xenos should stay at home then.
For me it's the lore of both Fantasy and 40k. The worldbuilding, the tone, the factions, and the stories by the many great authors. The world building is vast. The gods in Fantasy, the various internal politics in 40k, it's all so deliciously Machiavellian. It's almost like George R.R. Martin wrote a more high fantasy series. The tone is also to die for. It's simple. Humanity's fucked. Fantasy? Demon worshippers within and without, orks rampaging constatnly, undeath reigns in the southlands, beneath every human settlement there are colonies of evil ratmen, and the nobles are constantly conspiring against each other. In 40k? In addition to the Nids, Chaos, Necrons, and Orks, it's the fact that eventually humanity will fail and the desperate measures taken to ensure the survival of mankind. A few loons worhispping a Chaos God? Planet will probably be nuked to death and the thing is those billions of dead people will probably be nothing compared to the trillions if those idiots worshiping Khorne/Tzeentch/Nurgle/Slaanesh/****l/Chaos Undivided aren't killed. Not to mention the Golden Throne is failing, and when it fails, and it will, humanity will be plunged into a dark ages not seen for over 10,000 years, as supply lines break down, xenos and traitors rampage freely, and even more trillions starve. It's also the fantastic writing by various skilled authors. The Vampire Wars series, Gotrek and Felix, A Thousand Sons, Legion, First Heretic, Betrayer, great books on their own but in an expanded universe? They are beauties.
That's why I love introducing people to it. "So... who are the bad guys?"...
"Everyone"
Martin nicked a lot of the same pile of pop culture (Elric of Melnibone, LoTR, 2000AD, real history...) than the makers of WH did. The High Elves and Dark Elves have a lot of Melnibonean in them, ELDAR is Elf of the Stars in Quenya etc.
Midwinter Minis I mean, even the transhumanist Martian monks and the happy blue space commies are kinda fkd up when you think about it. Accidentally typo’d a line of code? BAM! Ur a servitor now hav fun. And the Tau? Literally all just mind controlled by the ethereal caste. Big brother is ALWAYS watching... always...
I got into wh40k tabletop 2 months ago and I can't believe how my perceptions of the hobby were so wrong. I thought assembling and painting would be a side thing with my main focus playing the game, but it turns out painting takes an incredible amount of time. This is not a bad thing because unlike what I expected it makes me very serene, it's so incredibly relaxing and you feel great after painting a model to an extent you're happy with. I spend so much time behind a computerscreen it's honestly amazing to switch it up with painting minis, I highly recommend this hobby if you've been looking into it.
>Heroin for Middle-Class Nerds
Ehh, Heroin is cheaper.
*GHOST HAND OF PSYCHIC POWER GRIPS!* "DEEEELLLEEEEETTEEEEEEE!
Ah, but it is far more heretical!
No, no, it really isn't.
*Warhammer* and *Children's novels* do not sound like they go together in the slightest.
Little heretic goes splat
Have you read any of the lore or novels they already read like the edgy stuff 11 and 12 year olds like. Plus when you break down the core gameplay loop of any wargame it turns into essentially pushing plastic army men around and rolling dice to determine if you have killed other plastic army men.
What’s funny is that Warhammer seems to originally been inspired by the whole heavy metal look and feel and decided to make a crazy nonsense universe that ran off heavy metal with healthy doses of satire. However over time and with the novels it seems people have forgotten the satirical nature of this universe so now you got all these “lore whores” getting upset when you mention female space marines. (Watch out of everything I say in this post only this will be get a response.)
Back to my original point a grim dark children’s novel doesn’t sound like it should go together but the sheer absurdity of it makes it seem like a step back to the roots of this franchise. Mainly a universe that doesn’t take itself too seriously because it knows how nonsensical it is. Also a lot of kids already play Warhammer with their parents, friends, siblings, and mentors/teachers.
I am not saying your opinion is wrong or that mine is right just wanted to show you how it all looks to me so maybe you won’t be entirely dismissive of something in the future. Iunno I just think the children’s novels could be the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles tv show for the comic and that could be a good thing for this hobby reaching a younger audience might allow for more companies to see their is a target demographic here and make some legit wargames for all ages. Let’s face it kids get shit tabletop games like Candy Land and Monopoly we need more Gaslands and Frostgraves, Life is pretty good it at least has interesting meta stories.
Read Animorphs, that series gets dark.
The Ork goes WAAAGH!
The Tyranid goes RRRAWRRR!
And the Necron goes SOI SOI SOI!
Nightlords *Deep Breathing*
Love the recycling thoughts about the sprues!
Free terrain for EVERYONE! ;)
@@MidwinterMinis I'm sure there was a discussion about this with Airfix years ago (when you'd send off to the airfix mag, waited to see if your letter appeared in print and read their reply) Basically they claimed it wasn't worth the effort to sort the colours & type and it was all just too much hassle. However this was back in the early eighties when the world still had plenty of spare trees, icebergs and dolphins, so maybe it is worth looking into doing now?
@@MrVolvobloke also, until recently all of the spruse are just grey plastic, they have other colours now but it wouldnt be that hard, and it would be amazing pr
@@MidwinterMinis I do know that the Warhammer World store will accept old Spures but im not sure what they do with them.
@@jackurquhart7994 Even if it's off colour you are presumably going to be painting over it, so why would it matter?
On top of everything you mentioned, even in 40K alone there's enough for everyone
Want to play humans who turned most of their bodies to robots? Ther's Ad mech
Want to play human space soldiers? So many different chapters of space marines
Want to play some unknown alien race that recently entered the galaxy? Tyranids
Want to play something where the entire race lost their personality and eventually became the killer of gods? Necrons
Something for everyone to enjoy
Unless you want to play the established wood elves in space, or the well established demon engine makers in which case your up a stream without a paddle.
Also Guard are the human space soldiers....marines can barely even be called humans with who know how many implants anymore.
Otherwise fair analysis.
Except when it comes to indisputable good guys, of course. Your options are much more limited there:
Salamanders, Lamenters, T'au ...
On the other hand, homebrew is a very flexible option, and there's a vast amount of room for one to make their very own good guy faction in their own style - it may not be as powerful or significant as the Ultramarines or the Tyranid hive fleets, but you can always be a force for good in your own little pocket of the galaxy.
I think eco friendly plastics are on the horizon, i mean look at lego, but i think the longevity of plant based plastics may be a problem
Sure! But the more people demand it, the more research will go into it, and the better products we'll get :)
think it's dumb, sure for drinking bottles and other disposable products, but i mean Lego and minis isn't something you throw away when done with it, just resold and reused.
When a plastic is made to be biodegradable, it is designed to rot after some amount of time, so longevity will certainly be a big problem.
@@Jupiter__001_ except maybe plastics which can degrade when subjected to special circumstances (so that a disposal plant only needs to meet these circumstances and the plastic will degrade) or just plastic which degrades faster then normal such as ~100 years instead of ~1000. Or just a few decades.
This "Sprue-Recycling-Idea" is the best thing i've heard in a long time!
Its wonderful. Something normally that wouldn't normally be enjoyed by a lot of people, now my addictions can be had with more and more people.
I love it.
I never thought I would take up modeling and painting miniatures. But it provides a similar escape to fishing. It keeps your mind busy enough not to worry about your life, but not so busy that you can’t relax. And at the end you have a cool little piece of art. There’s something so amazingly satisfying about using this art to play a game - compared to simply playing games with unpainted miniatures or cardboard markers.
An excellent overview, Guy! As a “graybeard” who’s been around (off & on) since Rogue Trader I really enjoyed the “nostalgia” parts (“Squats - Poor, poor Squats”) as well as the comparisons of old & new models.
...and, yes - the paint pots STILL *suck*. 🤬 Maybe not as bad as those god-awful “Bolter shell” pots ...but they still suck. 🙄😖
It was Goobertown and this channel that made me take the plunge back into wargaming after two decades, and I am forever grateful for that. I have since put together a couple of 500 point armies and several Kill Teams, and my painting skill is leagues beyond wha it used to be! Also I am having a lot of fun assembling, customising and painting and I guess that's kind of important as well.
That recycling idea is fab. I was literally thinking the same thing as you built up to the idea (well, handing in old sprues to the store, not the rewards) and I honestly think GW should get into that.
This channel taught me how to play Warhammer 40k back in February, now me and my friend are painting our first models after playing virtually for months.
I'm really happy to see you getting the success from this channel that you deserve. Your videos feel like I'm having a conversation with you in person, and it is really relaxing to put on one of your videos to paint or kill a half hour. I hope you get as much out of this channel as we do, Guy. Love your content.
Thank you so much Kellen! That's really nice of you to say. Happy I could pass on my knowledge to you :)
Oi! I wish You and Your friend a bucketload of fun!!! Good luck with painting :)
Welcome to the hobby
As someone who had never heard of it , I got into listening to the lore while I work. It’s super dark , intriguing and very detailed. I think it’s also the fact is so dark and foreboding that people enjoy compared to universes like Star Wars which come off childish and non serious.
what did you listen to, to get a good understanding of the lore? I'm new to this and want to get back into it from when I first was when I was 10 years old in 2010
@@SpankDatCow 4 months later, did you ever get back into mini painting?
Now if only they could price these things reasonably...
In the meantime, eBay is our saviour ;)
in terms of other hobbies like cars, guns, etc, 40K is much less expensive than those
@@MidwinterMinis I just learned that in these days e=bay is tanking heavily. I mean huuuge posting price increase and taxing all the transactions made e=bay obsolete, at least for me. My last transaction, last month, High Elf Silver Helms musian : Item price around 8 quid. Total price with posting and taxes around 20 quid - insane. Good Ebay days are gone , sadly.
Reduced prices? Not gonna happen. A billion-pound, listed company doesn’t get where it is by discount pricing. lol
The books are reasonably priced.
Unless your talking audiobooks.
Never thought about all the plastic waste, that was a great point! They should definitely have some sort of recycling initiative program.
guy sounded like he wanted to kiss me as he said goodbye
x
No tell penny. Big secret.
"If you prefer lord of the rings over starwars"
well I guess middle-earth strategy battle game doesn't count?
That terrain tile thing's a great idea!
YESSS, let's make it happen!
@@MidwinterMinis Can old sprues really be melted down and reused?
@@MrNickatron sure! It's an industrial process, you wouldn't want to try it at home though.
Melting and reusing sprues is in theory possible, but the kind of plastic used is so cheap to produce it’s not really worth recycling at this point in time
@Paladin327 That isn't the point of recycling though. We want plastics to be reused because that way they don't get dumped in landfills, taking thousands of years to decompose.
Companies like Games Workshop want to be seen as being aware of environmental issues and want to look responsible for their footprints on it. Promotion of the recycling of the waste components of their product in the way MM suggested here, would indeed do that. Of course it would cost them money to get the received sprues properly recycled.
I introduce my Friend to 40k Lore and he said he likes Chaos it's awesome I miss Him Now
Interesting you showed a Cadian infantry squad when mentioning Starship Troopers. The resemblance might be there for the film version, but Heinlein's descriptions in his original novel have far more in common with a Space Marine Tactical Squad. They are THE archetypal space marines.
Love your work though!
IMO, Mobile Infantry in the book function more like Tau battlesuits rather than Astartes power armour.
Sure! There were so many bloody Space Marines in this video though, I thought I'd give those stout Cadian boys some time to shine ;)
@@MidwinterMinis what about the other imperial regiments. The more well known ones were the Catachan Jungle Fighters (basically Vietnam SOG taken up to 11 thousand who all make Rambo look like Plye. Speaking of Rambo they actually an expy named Sly Marbo. Seriously I am not making this up), Armageddon Steel Legion (modern day mechanised military with ww2 Fallschirmjägers uniforms), Tallaran Desert Raiders (Lawrence of Arabia), Vostoryan Firstborn (19th century Imperial Russians), Death Korps of Krieg (basically every single ww1 army rolled into one with a massive death wish. In the death korps of kriegs comissars have the job of making sure that the soldiers do not waste their lives on pointless suicide charges.), Vahallan Ice Warriors (WW2 soviets. Most famous for Commissar Ciaphas Cain HERO OF THE IMPERIUM!), Elysian Drop Troops (modern day airborne but with grav chutes) and the Attilan Rough Riders (Eurassian steppe nomadic horsemen)
I mean, the Cadians literally look like the Starship Troopers from the film, but instead of dark blue they're ochre and green.
The IG look way more like colonial Marines from the alien franchise than the mobile infantry. The main reason i wanted to start collecting IG was that reason, until i saw how many i would need.
The more people in this hobby the better! I encourage anyone watching this who is new to give it a go! I’ve only been in this community, making models and painting them, playing games and losing them, for a year now but I can tell you that it makes me so happy and proud. Give it a go! Pick up first strike or a little box of troops, some paint and a brush, turn on TH-cam and paint! Anyone is welcome in this hobby and everyone is welcome!
another reason why warhammer is so great is because of the giant war cows made of rock with massive hammers
and my parents see warhammer as "grown men playing with plastic soldiers", which i personally think is hilarious, mainly because it's true.
I hardly comment on youtube videos, but this is a brilliant (biased yes, but truly understandable) video. Passionate words shows how much you like this. Once again, congratulations for the video. One of the best, if not THE best video advocating in favor of warhammer.
Bloody hell that's a great passage from Rick Priestly at the start of Rogue Trader there. It boils down so much of what the hobby is about and is ultimately welcoming and encouraging. For such a grim universe the actual people who indulge in the hobby are outstandingly nice folk.
Love the idea of recycling sprues into terrain tiles! Melt 'em down boyz!
Great video btw!
If anyone watching doesn’t play war hammer, seriously consider it, It took me a few hours to love it
I just like the lore. Do they have a battleship game? I enjoy the lore a whole lot but I am a extreme casual when it comes to board games.
@@mr.rousseau.4655 I think their space ship game is in your range, then.
My only set back is that I'm not good at painting and stuff.
@@mr.rousseau.4655 Battle Fleet Gothic Armada 1 and 2 are good
@@jaxrammus9165 that's not a problem for 2 reasons
1. There's plenty of tutorials everywhere, you can get a lot of nice tips to get to at least a decent level
2. A lot of people just play with half of their armies completely unpainted lmao
I recently started my Warhammer army and after only 3 models I can see a huge improvement. While I’m painting space marines only as practice I’m genuinely proud of how each model turns out, and it’s making me even more excited for when I start painting my Adeptus Mechanicus army
If you want to do the sprue idea start a petition. If enough of the bloggers reblog it and they all sign up it might go somewhere (I know nesspresso offered recycling its capsules after pressure). But will it be only GW sprus?
Great video - one of the things I love is how welcoming and supportive the hobby community is - the majority of people I've come across are friendly and inviting, and love sharing their passion and knowledge, but always happy to help out any newcomers without being arses.
I paint my boardgames but I am not into Warhammer, yet I found this video excellent. Its production value is off the chart.
Thank you very much! It took bloody ages to make, haha, glad you appreciated it ;)
Made me super happy you showed off someone's work on a Howling Griffon at 11:40. They're the chapter I started warhammer on, and am still currently in the process of making my first batch of HG Marines :P
As a huge Lovecraft fan, I appreciate you (even more now) bringing his influence up
Yeah man, so much more than tentacle monsters... some of the crazy ideas in his short stories are the best!
Anything that came out of the warp is Lovecraft on its own...and we love it
I got back into this hobby because of painting and hobby channels like this one, and I can confirm the creative avenue of Warhammer is one of the most satisfying things you can delve into. Creating my own Space Marine chapter and then actually building and painting the models is an accomplishment I'm truly proud of.
Thank you for being awesome Guy you've inspired me to start warhammer 40k and honestly I am very glad thanks to you my goff orks don't look like blobs of paint. Thank you for being here
You're so welcome! Glad my videos are helping you get started in the hobby :) Good choice on the Goffs!
I first got into Warhammer when my father and I were just walking through a mall and happened upon a Gamesworkshop store and saw the models on display as well some people playing. We bought the Battle for Macragge starter set and from there I was pretty much hooked. I was never the best, but you get better with time and you eventually end up changing armies as time passes on. I started with Spaces Marines only to move to Imperial Guard, then Tyranids, Tau, and now Eldar. I still keep the first brown and green marine I made from that starter set to see how far I've come since then and the people I got to meet thanks to the game. Sometimes the game itself is just a backdrop to hang out with friends, which is probably the best part about it the game that isn't explicitly in the game.
Fantastic video, editing was on point!
Thanks so much, it was a real slog, haha. I think I spent longer on this video than anything else on the channel.
If I wanted to get someone into the Warhammer universe, I would just show them this video.
Amazing work, guy. Well done.
Judge Fluff, "I am the LORE!!!"
Dawn of War was my introduction to the world of 40k. I thought Orks in space was kinda dumb, not realizing at first Eldar are space elves. But I loved the game. I got into a D&D group that had a play who also played 40k and I recognized the models. Once I learned about the lore of the universe I was all in.
The idea of recycling the old sprues in exchange of terrain tiles is absolutly brilliant !! Where do i sign ??
“The awesome feeling of finishing a squad” - Spot on 👍🏻 Great video, great overview. I do miss the Squats. I would love to see them revamped and relaunched. 👍🏻
I discovered wh40k becuase i walker past a games workshop store and was interested
Their plan worked perfectly ;)
Lucky you. I wish I could have shop nerby, but I don't. I'm forced to seek on sides like Amazon or wait at least week for bought stuff
I first got into Warhammer when I kept seeing FOR THE EMPEROR! comments or DIE HERETIC! I got curious and searched up these terms and I just got sucked into the lore. Out of all the sci-fi books and franchises I've read, played and seen, Warhammer has the most diverse and exotic lore out of all of them.
I spent countless hours reading the lore which is impressive because I haven't read anything that vigorously since.... well since ever!
I first got Intrested in the Warhammer tabletop game when, surprisingly, my Art teacher mentioned it during class. He brought along one of his space marines (a blood Angel if i remember correctly)
He showed it to anyone interested, which was sadly only me, and the next day he brought in a couple more blood angels and even some orks.
It was bizarre seeing these things which (to me) had only existed in the confines of my mind as I read through the lore, come to life as these minifigures on the table.
My entire interest in the Tabletop side of Warhammer is due to this one moment and that one art teacher.
Man, someone needs to send GW that sprue idea. I keep way too much sprue just because it’s not recyclable (least not where I live) and it feels wasteful to just throw it away
That quote at the end always gives me chills. I love this hobby
Just great to see GW’s journey, as well as your own as a content creator in this video. Amazing. Your sprue-recycling idea is genius.
10 years ago I put a full stop to my WH40K hobbying and started my career in music. Just before the lockdown hit, my friend 3D printed all of our party’s DnD characters which I volunteered to paint. The rush of nostalgia in painting minis has made me since plunge back hard into the hobby, making my way through entire pile of shame and ordering all new models. I can confirm what you said about the difference between communities: my friends in music continue to be very toxic while the warhammer community has been amazing.
I agree with this up to a point: Don't mention female space marines. Honestly, people get REALLY upset with this idea!
You’re a genius. You have such a well rounded obvious love and knowledge for this world, and this hobby, and as a new convert myself, you have solidified and help instil in me a deep calm that I’ve been lacking in my life for so long, as a 26 year old mostly addicted to the internet ne’er do well. Great work Guy. You make me proud. And games workshop could absolutely take a leaf from your idea.
That Rick Priestley quote is stunningly beautiful.
The REAL question is why aren’t YOU this popular?
Can nerds even BE popular? Haha, what a dichotomy.
OR ISN'T HE? *inner Tzeench intensifies*
Midwinter Minis, you are more popular than me, my channel sucks
@@98TheSzymon I challenge you to Paradox-Billiards-Vostroyan-Roulette-Fourth-Dimensional-Hypercube-Chess-Strip Poker
@@commissarbearz Really now? It *is* rare for mortals to master such an intricate lash of the minds
One of my favorite vids from you so far. This weekend I'm making it a goal to dig out all my old GW stuff. :)
The algorithm started pushing Midwinter Minis videos on my recommendation, and since they were interesting, I watched them. Then came the battle reports, then other channels, then 9th edition rule overviews... Now I am seriously thinking about spending a wad of money and time only to get in the game with a 500 point army. Thank you for my new addiction.
Go easy on your wallet. it will be gone before you can blink. have fun.
So, uh, how'd it go?
@@JavierEscuelIa Now I have a 500 point Thousand Sons army with one exalted sorcerer, two squads of ten rubrics and one squad of terminators. It can't do shit in a fight since Thousand Sons might be the weakest army right now, but damn it, they are still dope ass dust boys.
edit: shot -> shit
@@buriedalive3192 Don't worry about them being low tier, they're certainly not last, that might be Khorne Demons (which I have), but it's cool that you got into this hobby with such a good army
@@JavierEscuelIa Aye, and armies rotate around strenghtwise, so it isn't much to worry about. Except of course if the army is some forgotten chaos or xenos faction.
Although I do own a selection of the tabletop models, Warhammer has been and always will be, for me, about the lore and the stories. Whilst I do enjoy building the models, especially the vehicles, and occasionally even gather enough patience to try painting some of them, it's the shelves of novels that will always be my pride and joy from this hobby.
I think there’s a misperception here. GW is paying for more public exposure, not necessarily “so popular.” GW is just doing an excellent job advertising and creating market exposure.
@@Madhattersinjeans laughs in spruecons
I got into warhammer through the video games mostly when i was 16 years old.
After playing dawn of war 2 and reading up on the different kinds of lore behind the wargear you could earn, i started searching for more lore on the subject.
afterwards i came across Alfabusa's Emperor's text to speech series and that got me hooked on the actual lore.
now i am 21 years old and have begun painting the mini's. my first ones were 3 primaris marines (the easy to build ones) just to see if i liked painting.
turned out i had some skill. and have now begun painting an imperial coalition. I am mixing up astartes with imperial guard units as a emergency faction of remnants from the fall of cadia. right now i painted a chimera, leman russ demolisher, 3 marines, sergeant harker (gonna go with my own paintscheme) and have now started assembling and painting an armiger warglaive.
honestly, i never thought i would get into miniature painting but here we are.
Thank you so much this video it got me teary eyed as it made me proud to be part of this community. This is one of the best games and I couldn't agree more with this video. Thank you
You are an amazing youtuber you have so much potential never give up TH-cam you will grow every day you are the reason I got into warhammer I enjoy all the hours spent playing the amazing game be proud you are AMAZING with a awesome personality
Absolutely love the sprue recycling idea. Hope something like that could be viable and worth implementing.
Fun fact, there used to be a small model store near where I lived and if you brought in 1kg of sprue they'd swap then for a "painter kit" basically 1 basic brush and your choice of 3 small paints.
I have more armies than I do friends, I remember the dates I brought certain models but can’t remember my sisters birthday 😂🤣😅
Great video. Can't believe only just discovered channel. Think we have a 'sort of aligned' background.. spent 7 years in MI retail marketing (Sound Control) and worked closely with your old boss, Mr Alex Marten, among other mutual industry colleagues. Albeit a few years prior.
Small world!
GW should pay you for this sort of free advertising. Ever since I started back up with 40k (jan last year), your channel has always filled me zealous enthusiasm.
That terrain tile idea in The end is quite genius honestly.
"Will Warhammer become the next Star Wars" - pardon what is this starwars-thingy?
I think it's that one with that Spock fella.
Pretty awesome trilogy of movies from the 70s-80s, had an amazing EU that covers all sorts of cool stuff, probably has more material than Black Library. It even got a revival of sorts around the turn of the millennium with a prequel trilogy, sadly the only movie we've gotten since then was a pretty awesome war movie set between Episodes 3 and 4
I had the Midwinter Minis video for the necron speed paint pop into my feed about a month ago.
Great video but a slight nitpick: paying back the financial aid wasn’t really done because GW is so good or anything, they did it for a tax break.
Sneaky buggers!
I just bought my first squad. I'm really looking forward to getting started! The dauting part for me was selecting paints from the game store, but I think I made an appropriate selection.....I ASPIRE TO THE STRENGTH AND CERTAINTY OF STEEL
That’s awesome, I’m getting my first set in a few days, is it worth it?
If tank turning comes back it will be more like world of warships, I’d like that aspect more to consider while moving
Agreed about printing/molding entire model but I love the idea of designing my own shoulder pads and even using certain heads for figures. I really wanted to design a squad and even company with skulls as their helmets ever since I got the terminator chaplain with the skull helmet...
Why do these videos make me so emotional?
I've spoken to a store manager about bringing in old empty sprues, he said that the logistics of sending them all back to the factory would be a nightmare, and cost more money than they would save, they do have a large reclining centre in Nottingham, but you'd have to go there yourself.
“Why is Warhammer so popular?”
It’s pretty cool
Top :)
Pretty much sums it up
i want to say i love yer vid. i wanted to start painting almost 20 year's , ago. after a rough year last year (brake up, dad got cancer (under controll/cured right now) and had to move because the vibe in that house was utter bad, car accident and depression) i started last december, now got a 1250 Points Tau , 1000 points Seraphon/lizardmen , and now starting with admech and Skaven's. and indeed the community welcomed me in quite fast. i got tips and now i realy take my time to paint.
It is a class A addiction as well , please anyone who is reading this don’t get addicted it’s not worth it your wallet can’t take it
Warhammer Addicts Anonymous
@@MidwinterMinis do you have number
I'm only a teenager and my entire life, and wallet is dedicated to Warhammer
Yeah it really can
I almost stood up and applauded after that Rick Priestley quite at the end. I got back into the hobby nearly a year ago after a gap of well over 15 years and I've noticed how much more known GW and Warhammer are now, I used to have to explain to people what it all was and usually get a fair bit of teasing back. Whilst I still don't shout it from the rooftops, I don't hid my interest in the hobby like I used to and people aren't really bothered by it. In fact I took I a recent girlfriend into a GW store on a whim during a shopping trip and she absolutely loved it. The staff were really friendly and chatty, she's got a fine art degree and really enjoyed getting to paint a mini. She even said she could see herself getting into the painting side of the hobby. There were more girls/women in there than boys/men when we went and we both liked that aspect to it, something I would never have believed would happen back in the mid-to-late 90s. The hobby has changed so much for the better, but at it's core it's still recognisable as the thing that got me hooked back in the day. I could go on and on; suffice it to say, I'm happy to be back.
Games Workshop, start listening in at 17:18 - that's a seriously excellent idea! I've long lamented the fact, that there's So! Much! Wasted! Plastic! in those sprues D:
18:20 Bottom right,is that...Batman?
Man,the Rogue Trader era was wild.
well this didnt age well as far as the community outlook on GW lol
1) it's unique
2) it's fun
3)it doesn't take itself too seriously while also being grimdark, which means that it can appeal to literally anyone from the hardcore grimdark fan to the memelord.
4)it's over the top
5) it's massive, in everything, scale, lore and everything else.
6)you can find it in any form and there's different fandoms within the community itself, i for example like to collect the models, i love the lore and i own virtually every videogame, bad ones included, however i can't be fucked to play the tabletop.
I think it's telling about this community that someone like ArchWarhammer is considered one of the more toxic elements of the community, given how in most others he'd be considered one of the better examples of someone in it
Arch kinda makes sense at least try and gatekeep your hobby because you love it if we observe the other fandoms such as star trek and star wars got wind of the wrong type of people and you probly haven't heard of gamza
@@yt_krg I agree, my point was that he's considered on the more toxic side by Warhammer fandom standards, yet by most other community standards he'd be considered on the welcoming side. It shows how much we as a community follow the ideal of letting anyone in so long as they care for the hobby and community.
@@ZontarDow aye only place I can go where don't get called Nazi or rapist nicest community for the best story and setting
0:35 I actually have some of those skeletons miniatures. I found them for like 50 cents each and pretended they where tomb kings.
i for one would love to see a return of vehicle turning rules, as well as armour values, armour facings and weapon based line of sight shooting. the vehicle rules in 8th edition are so stripped down and boring!
Not going to lie, as a fan of the old Necromunda rules, I sort of do too. What a sucker for punishment ;)
And bring back the Farseers on crack
@@MidwinterMinis we'll always have the old rulebooks to reminisce over. Now to get my mates drunk enough to think that a game of 7th sounds like a good idea haha!
@@johanhalvarsson2148 and tau fish of fury just to rub salt in the wound bwahahaha!
Just play with those rules, why is it that the Warhammer community hasn't improved on the really poor rules that warhammer have, it has cool models and lore but the boring rules let it down
I totally agree about having the terrain pieces be made from recycled sprues. It'd be a great way to make less waste and give people more incentive to purchase more kits because then you not only have the sprues to jury-rig into terrain or base decorations, but getting terrain pieces that you can just... paint up however you wish if you want to make a factory or space ship scenario is wonderful!