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- Lawyer Stewart Cables joins us today to talk about the recent Supreme Court ruling in W. VA vs EPA. It was seen as a huge victory against federal agency overreach, but does it apply to the diesel industry? Are deletes ok now? Can trucks be turned into race vehicles? Stewart answers these questions on today’s talk!
Stewart D. Cables is a founding partner of Hassan + Cables. Stewart specializes in general business representation and a variety of trial work. Stewart's practice areas include complex civil litigation, employment law, criminal and DUI defense, transactional work for corporations and LLCs, and counsel for non-profit entities.
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It is scary when a non-elected entity has more power than Congress and Law Enforcement has the power to order you to do things with your personal property on your land. This needs to end.
Supreme court has ruled as it should that only the Congress is allowed to make laws, as our Constitution states, the EPA, ATF and other agencies are NOT allowed to make laws. This is what Democrats hate, because Democrats have been Undermining the Constitution to make their own laws for land we live in.
You need to read the Supreme Court holding in “Penhallow v Doanes Administrators”
Understand your right to be a natural person is not the same as a “Person” in law and therefore a government corporate entity which they control and can prosecute for corporate violations of policy. Every law begins with “ any person who” ….they have trapped you into that thru unknown contracts and “ Districts” of residency.
@@DavidMoore-lx4xz There was case recently where the party contended that the EPA had no jurisdiction on private property and they won. The US Supreme sided with property owner. I am not laywer but common sense tells me it tends support my statement. I believe in priciple and in spirit that most people what I mean. A small a group of people can not be allowed to make demands that can wipe out an industry affecting millions of people. The EPA demands are outrageos and go way to far.
Law enforcement has no power over you till you do a crime with probable cause .
You can tell them to go somewhere .
What must end is fools expecting the rest of us to choke to death for them. It's selfish. Your equipment runs better WITH the emissions equipment. ALL viewers must leave this channel and go learn about diesels from Gale Banks!
If I delete my cummins in my ram an increase my fuel economy buy 8 miles to the gallon. I am useing less fuel an reducing emissions buy almost half. In my book that is a win win also I am giving back the long life of my truck. This is my pursuit of happiness
The supreme court ruling was very simple. A law can not be implemented by a government agency. The individual agency of the government are in place to enforce laws made by congress. So the question is simple was DEF, and other clean air acts rules and regulations implemented by congress. in my research the answer is no. The clean air act was put in place by the EPA. So in my opinion none of the clean air act was ligament legislation therefore the laws are not legal. That said many won't disagree so if your prepared to fight for your rights and the rights of others against the will of the manufactures delete away. However if your not prepared to take it to the supreme court your stuck being an obedient citizen and not a free patriot. Make no mistake your freedoms are not free.
The facts are simple politicians let the depts do the dirty work because then they are not responsible and won't be held accountable in the voting booth. Then the lobbyist get involved and push for the rules they want to benefits their business. Make no mistake Diesel engine manufactures want emissions and all the car manufactures want laws that make them install safety equipment because it makes them more money. The manufactures were not happy and showed their hand when Trump said CA couldn't have a higher standard of clean air than the rest of the country. GM was not happy because it was going to cut into their bottom line. In Trucking DEF breakdown have added Billions of fees in breakdown occurrences. Their are to many people making money off these regulations.
None of these laws are about clean air. All of these laws are about the money it cost to install, regulate, and maintain.
Good luck Folks.
Spot on!
Exactly. If people were to only read the laws, then they could understand what the law can and can't do.
Best thing I’ve heard today. You sir are spot on.
Alot of the engine manufacturers were pissed about the emmisions laws, like for example the red top n14 cummins, they were forced to stop manufacturing them cause epa said they emitted too much emmisions and the n14 red top cummins was their best engine they ever made, same with catapillar.
Now lolets get to the def fluid, they say the def fluid being injected in the exhaust lowers NOX, how does it lower? Well when the def pluid is injected in the exhaust system above 400°f there's a chemical reaction that happens, they say during the chemical reaction of the def fluid it creates ammonia and it takes the place of NOX thus lowering the "carbon imprint" isn't ammonia toxic aswell and causes other environmental issues, and don't forget that plastic bottle that you have to throw away to save the planet!
@@A1rs1ck yes, they say that they are pissed to the public but lobby for the changes. They seam like they are on the side of the consumer but they are as crooked as a politician.
When The government said that CA couldn't have a stricter level of emissions than the rest of the country at the federal level GM jumped to the front of the line to complain, because the extra mandates give them an excuse to charge more money for their products.
As competitive as corp business is they are all operating on the same models.
Maybe some manufactures are not on board but they all profit from this. Any heavy duty road truck with 350K Generates about 2 to 3 thousand permonth on dealer and towing services. If the EPA said no DEF anymore you would not see the manufactures stop.
There is simple to many people making to much money on the junk science.
DEF cuts the over all life of the engine by about half. Prior to DEF we used to go about !,000,000 miles on an engine (ISX) with DEF the engine goes to about 500,000 with sensor issues starting at 350,000.
It's all a scam pumped by greed.
When politicians and celebrities stop flying on jets I’ll think about not deleting my truck until then I’ll do what I want with my own property that I pay for
@@matthewray5093 like I said when they stop flying in jets and in their big ole gas guzzling armored vehicles then I think about it until then I’ll drive my truck how I please on the road that’s the issue to much government control we need less this is a free country and last time I checked it’s are taxes that pay for this crap we technically own it all remember we the people is not the government but the people
@@matthewray5093 Those are our god damn roads, Paid for by our god damn money, So we will do as we god damn please and live free unharassed by government agencies over shit they have no business getting involved in. Federal government is responsible for federal commerce, They don't have any say in what I do with my vehicle on our roads in my state.
Where did the tax money come from???
@@matthewray5093 are you that stupid we pay taxes dude yes we do own the roads we pay for them you clearly don’t know how any of this stuff works we pay taxes to the government to build stuff guess who the government works for the people you clearly don’t know how are government works this is why are country is falling to shit because people like you we don’t pay taxes government can’t do anything
@@matthewray5093 And the government used what money jackass? Forced tax payer dollars... Highly different than a free transaction between customer and business... Its our government, its our money, its our roads, What part of "By the people FOR the people do you misunderstand?
What really gets to me is the amount of waste produced by non deleted trucks double the oil changes def jugs all over the place can’t let soot out the tail pipe but we can have the Dpf cleaned and wash it into the sewer system along with the cleaning chemicals
I use a power washer and purple power cleaner to clean mine, and place it over a city storm drain in my street. I don’t want my driveway stained. But it’s good for the environment right?
@@extremerc76 that’s rite 3 eyed fish like the Simpsons lol
Agree it's wack
@@extremerc76 Wow. You're a bit of cutn... Put it down the sewage system where it can be treated by the sewage plant, not straight into the rivers. WTF is wrong with you?
@@extremerc76
what a chad ❤
"EPA isn't after the end user"
Yeah I don't trust that for a second.
Yeah but states like NJ are. DEP has been trolling Facebook busting people to return the vehicle to stock compliant.
I smell Bullshit…….a lot of bullshit……oh look it’s the EPA
@@Itsa_Mea where is the evidence of this?
@@Itsa_Mea That's absolutely true
@@shrek22 They busted a guy selling his Cummins on Facebook, told him to take it back to stock or get it crushed. I'm sure if you Google something to the effect of "NJ diesel truck owner crushed truck" you'll find a few stories on it. He took his truck to get crushed in Sep 16 btw. They wouldn't even allow him to deregister it for off-road use.
If the government Deam's emission systems are so important why do they not mandate manufacturers to lifetime warranty emissions products
There is a requirement of extended warranty on emission products that is placed on the products. I believe it is specifically outlined in the owner's manual of the vehicle
I agree if the EPA wants this crap, they and the car manufactures should be required to repair it at no cost
Atleast that would force them to design better def sensors, egr valves, def injectors, pumps ect. If they have to pay for all the failed garbage products they might make some better stuff
Maybe the government needs to pay to maintain emissions on diesels.
I love the fact that a government vehicle doesn't have emissions equipment. Looked at ex-military dozer it didn't have Def or egr system on it but one sold to the public has all of it. Explain that to me.
The new Humvee replacement uses a 6.6L duramax with no emissions equipment. I think its the JLTV. The military wont have the emissions equipment on their rigs because they know it absolutely doesn't work and cannot be relied upon
Pretty simple….I’m guessing it’d be bad to have your combat vehicle go into limp mode in the middle of war. Pretty safe to say there’s a lot less potential danger to a civilian running out of def in there dozer vs military in a combat situation.
FYI, the huge chunk of non-combat government vehicles out there are no different than anything sold on dealer lots.
@@jeffs2809 That is the point tho. The systems are complete and utter shit. If they don't want it for reliability and usability reasons, its shit, outright. They shouldn't force it onto civilians either.
Post office has no emissions and not even catalytic converters
@@earlgeary8880 Possible, maybe, but you're giving no information on what these vehicles are...I doubt very much they are late model sprinter vans. More likely, you looked at a 50+ year old postal jeep & decided the USPS is emissions exempt.
CARB or California Air Resource Board has nothing to do with the EPA or Federal Government. The idea that the EPA feels like they can simply force National adoption to a State created standard is extreme overreach.
Just read yesterday that Carb is planning for increased smog checks, plan is to annual, then semi annual, to quarterly, also set up "roving" smog check stations, looking at testing vehicles when they enter the state, even for vacationers.... I am so glad that we left that liberal looney bin
Unfortunately there are 17 states that signed on and agreed to do whatever California did as far as emissions and multiple other things...... so what you see going on in California is a glimpse of the future for much of America ....its really really sad and it's not what the people of this country want
DPF/DEF EGRs on Diesel engines are nothing more than money pits and cause those type of engines to constantly break down. Creating those emissions type products cause more emissions than the vehicles themselves. The biggest copper mine is in Escondida, copper is what is used to make the insides of a DEF exhaust. Container ships are used to transport that copper. There are roughly 10,000 container ships in service. Those ships run on diesel motors that have NO emissions on them. 1 of those container ships produce as much pollution as about 50 Million cars. There are roughly 1.4 billion vehicles as of 2022 according to automotive market research. So if all those container ships are running they are producing enough emissions as 500 billion vehicles. So even if only half of those container ships are running that’s still enough emissions as 250 billion vehicles.
Another way to push electric vehicles
Surprisingly container ships do often have emissions systems on them
Step outside almost any given day and watch the sky. You'll see dozens of what appear to be high flying aircraft DELIBERATELY SPRAYING the sky with white hazy, sun blocking, lingering, chemicals. People refer to this well-known, long-standing practice, as chemtrailing. It's NOT jet exhaust water vapor trails, it is deliberate spraying. There is a ruling clan executing NWO (or as they refer to it, "Tikkun Olam") and this deliberate spraying is part of NWO (BTW, they hold patents for the spray/practice). By controlling money, governments, and media (the ruling clan controls much more, but these are the most strategic elements of modern society) the rulers have guaranteed they will achieve NWO unopposed (see infamous 1990 H.W. Bush speech). The ruling clan is responsible for concocting EVERY boogie man they parade on their media brainwashing system; this includes "global warming". The EPA is as big a fraud as Congress, CDC, ABC/CBS/FOX/BBC/CNN/NBC "news", Joe Biden, Clintons, Bushes, Obama, Trump, Carter, Ford, etc.
Don’t forget about trains
The manufacturers could have fought this, but they love all of the extra money from having all of those Diesel trucks in the shop for 5 grand or more repairs multiple times over the lifespan of the vehicle.
The manufactures lobby for these laws.
you realize the fed can litigate you into bankruptcy; don't you? .
@@wolu9456 that's exactly why they just hired 87,000 IRS agents to attack small business
Back in the 2009-2011 time frame they did fight, however even with 1000s of hours of research, and many papers detailing the problems with the technology, the EPA would not consider any changes to the timeliness for rollout. The EPA was completely deaf and dumb.
Great information didn't know how this would work out and the more options I hear the better. Side note for everyone to think about is that military/government/fire department/ambulance/ well should have left it government are not required to have this because of failure issues and cost of maintaining. All this amounts to is a bigger thumb holding people down as they say F-U. The whole industry should have fought back a long time ago and I am in that industry and I kick myself for not doing more.
Terrell, we have all been lied to for so long we now think it’s is just that way. Texas Constitution Article 8 sec2(d) says there is property that is not commercial and the government has the car dealers converting your “goods” into “ Motor Vehicles”( 18USC31(?6). The they convert you into a “ Commercial Driver” and tell you that you must license. BS …not unless you work as a driver and make money on the road and cause unusual wear to the road.
Texas Transportation code
521.021 meaning of license:
Learners
Occupational: defined in law as
A trade, profession, job, career, or calling. ( commercial in all aspects)
See: Supreme Court says no license needed. Google it!!
I work in a federal government fire department. Our diesel apparatus all use DEF.
@@cwilks5592That’s pretty much all that is available now. Your department could legally delete all emissions.
Publicly funded entities are exempt. Exempt from OSHA MSHA DOT you name it.
I get 4mpg better after deleting and a tune… How can that be bad for the environment… No plastic jugs of toxic def being transported or thrown away…. no black smoke..sometimes up to 24mpg . I understand rolling coal is not clean(thats not me)but there’s so much bs added on cars and trucks that you cant get good mpg unless you modify them.
With all due respect, I don't care about racers. The real problem is with the tens of Millions of people using diesel trucks to make a living.
This is put a major cost on small businesses and big businesses because these systems simply do not work.
I hope someone comes up a way to file a successful lawsuit against the EPA because they are mandating something that simply does not work as advertised. The technology is not there. All this DEF exhaust garbage is destroying small businesses like mine because it is unreliable and keeps breaking down.
That's right I expend $6000 to replace Dpf in my Fuso 260/ 2009
We’re giving the EPA way too much credit for trying to do the right thing. They don’t care about emissions. They just know that Americans do. That’s why there’s no emissions devices on ships or military trucks.
Or aircraft.
The EPA is not about emissions or the environment, it’s about power.
@Inflatable Fetus B.S.
Ships burn HEAVY OIL. Worse than dirty coal. Lying is fun!
if the epa was truely concerned about the envirment they would regulate commercial industry and shipping where more then the majority of the polution comes from
@@mikeross8822 they do regulate commercial industry and shipping
Yes government should not tell us what we have to drive or do to our trucks or cars .
Another example of alphabet agencies needing to be defunded
Defend the entire government cut every agency by 95% and our live will be restored. It's time for an overhaul America. We the people need to wake the fuck up and get involved at every level and run these corrupt individuals out of our government. It's time to go back to for the people by the PEOPLE!
Yes, yes, yes !
Sounds like a cry for anarchy... ought to be interesting how that turns out....
@@gghhhgghhh3037
“Defund 95%” isn’t anarchy it’s reducing government to essential and legal levels.
@@nebraskamalt6949 ok. Go back to school kid...
Question. If EPA doesnt have authority to require a carb eo how can California as their power to regulate air quality over national standards was granted them by the EPA? Anybody have an idea as to how this is possible?
I’ve had my diesel for 7 years I only have 77500 miles on it and the heater in the def tank threw a code because it was below freezing for 7 days. At this time I either fork over $1000 to get the heater changed out or for a little bit more I take care of the issue myself. I’m taking care of the issue as I want my truck to keep going for a very long time
Why are ALL government vehicles deleted? Why do they get away with this but We The People are subject to heavy fines and possible jail time?
The biggest issue that is not a legal issue with the EPA is they are making a lot enemies. You stop one company it has ripple effect to their employees and area that company serves. Now they have created millions of enemies that can vote. It is an issue the EPA cannot ignore for too much longer. Many in the motorsports want to work with them so they educate each other about each other about these industries. If they EPA fines them that makes this idea nearly impossible to entertain. In the south motorsports and diesel industry is a multi billion industry.
The main problem is the fact that not a single epa employee was ever voted in, they were appointed to the position so they effectively answer to no one.
@@jdsmith556 The US Supreme Court recently changed that notion. A land owner claimed the EPA has no juridiction over private property and he won.
The last I checked I paid for this truck not the epa I’ll do what I want 🖕🖕🖕
Thanks for keeping us informed.
18 minutes in and it's finally talking about what the topic is he is definitely a lawyer
Thank you
Oh my God, this took forever. Ain't nobody got time for this!
15 minutes! This entire video could have been done in 15 minutes. Good info but, 15 minutes!
Thanks, I hate mumbo jumbo.
I stoped watching, get to the point
I bought a new 2022 Colorado zr2 bison diesel with one mile on the clock and has been in the shop 4 times with def/dpf issues. Shop said if it weren’t for the warranty it would’ve cost $8000 each time . The truck now has a lil over 4K miles on it. Once that warranty is up you know what time it is….. Thankfully I live in a state where there is no emissions testing.
If it was me sell it under warranty before resale price drops on it as people learn how much problems they have.
What emissions did the old Diesel engines actually emit? Carbon Dioxide ( what the trees need to be able to grow) and soot but after 1986 with the introduction of ECMs and EUI’s diesels cleaned up the soot . DEF introduces acid rain and the heat shields on the knew Diesels get really hot and causes way less fuel mileage which then creates more Diesel fuel production and more oil drilling.. so EPA needs to roll back emissions to pre Montreal protocol emission regs and let us be
The EPA doesn’t apply the laws across the full spectrum, why does the the military, navy, Aerospace, get a free pass?
My brother in law used to work high up in the BP oil company during the Obama administration. When that bad oil spill happened, BP immediately called in the Japanese tanker ship to help contain the spill until they could stop it so that it wouldn’t spread, but…. As we know it spread for days until it reached land. Reason is, Obama stoped the Japanese ship and wouldn’t allow it into US waterways, and stoped BP engineers from trying to plug the spill, just so he could use his government engineers who knew absolutely nothing about oil, drilling, or oil rigs. Osama even put out a competition to engineers students to come up with their own solution, just so he could trick the public into thinking he was encouraging the youth, and make people think his administration was going to save the ocean from the big bad oil company. BP, their engineers, and my brother in law tried everything to get the government to back off and allow their own engineers fix the problem before it got worse, Osama said no. My brother in law interrupted one of Osamas officials in mid sentence and told him, “With all do respect, your administration is making things worse, your engineers know nothing about the oil industry, and that these BP engineers live, sleep, and breath oil, and their administration needs to back off”! It was until the oil made landfall the public started to demand more action, and Osama finally allowed the Japanese ship to cross international boarders and help contain the oil, and finally allowed the BP engineers to do what they know was best, and stoped the leak, and Osama took all the credit for something BP had been begging Osama to allow them to do from the start. And BP took all the blame. BP deserved the blame for the initial spill, but Obama was to blame for the wide spread pollution. All so he could say he saved everyone. Wake up people, this whole climate change, and green deal is a billion dollar scam. If you look at the worlds history of climate changes, we are over due for a massive, natural change, and that the air pollutants were way higher during the ice age, and hundreds of years after due to the burning of woods for heat, more natural volcanic activity, and other things happening. Scientists have already proven this by taking core samples from deep beneath the polar ice, and other areas around the earth.
Our politicians are the sorriest people on this earth………!!!!
It's a complicated issue. No climate change isn't a hoax.
Evidence that this happened?
People, enmasse, have drunk the koolaid on this. Of course it is a multi billion dollar scam. But it also is intended to shift world power and economics away from western capitalism. To do that requires plenty of koolaid and useful idiots. This thing has gained far more traction than I ever imagined. It has gotten to the point where even being skeptical about man made "climate change" is considered heresy or insanity. To me, the idea that we mere mortal human can have any impact on the weather is utter arrogance at best. But I have to consider sinister ulterior motives instead. And I do. After Obama got elected and the EPA began its reign of terror I referred to it as "Obama's Gestapo". The idea of a government agency just making up rules as it goes along should scare the shit out of people but it hasn't at all. On the contrary, people, enmasse, have drunk the koolaid.
@@argusfleibeit1165 , the oil spill was all over the news, Obamas administration sent out a notification on the news wanting to allow MIT students to try and come up with a robotic drone to try and reach the bottom and plug the hole, this delayed the containment of the blown hole, and the clean up, that was all on the news. The private meetings between BP, and the Osama administration was not televised. After the oil reached land, which was televised all over the world, and the EPA, and people of the world started to complain, then Osama allowed the tanker to cross our international borders and help contain the oil, so the blown hole could be plugged, which was also televised as the tanker showed up to contain the oil, which was BP’s plan from the moment oil started to spread from the blown hole.
Congress can't give law making authority to the Executive branch of government. There is nothing in the Constitution that allows this. So, whether congress clearly states this transfer of authority or not, matters not. Furthermore, the so called "interstate commerce clause" does not give the federal government the authority to regulate individuals, not involved in commerce. They are not going after racers, because they can't do so legally. A state can, the feds can't.
The EPA is not coming after the end user *today* tomorrow is always a new day and a new rule.
Exactly.
The EPA is after the original racers, it's the technological improvements to engine technology that racing has always provided is what they want to outlaw. They're just trying to stop technology. :) anyone that has used a gas can in the last ten years knows for absolute certain, the EPA couldn't care less about the environment.
It seems that a lot of the EPA regulations are guilty until proven innocent...
regulations ARE NOT LAWS
That’s the judicial system in a nut shell.
@@seancollins9745 correct but break a regulation and the fines still apply and oddly enough most laws have the punishment of a fine. Meaning legal for a price
@@seancollins9745 Isn't the Clean Air Act a law? Then regulations come from the Clean Air Act?
Thats how 'our' government has evolved under a more Socialist / Authoritarian direction. Stop voting for the damn leftists!
Sue the EPA!
I drive a 2000 7.3 so the def doesn't apply there. The 2014 Pasat has it and I hate it. Was really hoping for good news on that point. Great show!!
Based on this video, I have a question regarding what is an approved vehicle. Chevrolet had Banks Engineering set up something like a thousand 1500, 3.0 liter Duramax Diesel pick up trucks for the military. It is my belief that these were deleted (amongst other updates) legally by Banks for Chevrolet. Based on this, wouldn't all 3.0 Duramax units be legal (based on the approved mods done for the Chevrolet 3.0 Duramax units, or only the specific units built for Chevrolet.
Saving the environment...one 2.5 gallon plastic container at a time
My 2021 Ram identifies as a Prius....
This lawyer guy was great , very educational !
Awsome content , a lot of information, thanks for sharing
As free citizens we are not obligated to obey rules. We are obligated to obey law. Period
Going outside to burn some styrofoam and used motor oil. Try and stop me.
I prefer tires, more smoke
This dose destroy racing. If they can’t make race parts there will be no race cars
Just to be clear, I do understand that the EPA was granted certain things by Congress to regulate mobile energized devices. What they did not do is Grant to the EPA, the ability to tell somebody who buys a mobile device, such as an automobile or a diesel pickup truck or whatever, that they cannot delete these things on their own. And that legal mechanism occurred in 1976 when the state of Washington tried to get after a man who had removed the catalytic converter from his 1975 or 76 Chrysler Cordoba. As it turned out, as memory serves me correctly, it came to a point that they insisted that the car polluted more with the converter off of it then with the converter on it. So they tested the vehicle in both conditions. And it was actually cleaner without the converter. But at the end of the day because he had done it himself he was not subject to the law in the first place because he is not a licensed mechanic or a licensed repair facility. And the EPA can only exercise authority over repair facilities and certified mechanics who are working in Commerce!
I haven't read the case but it sounds like the supreme court has relied on other cases that basically say that an agency rule cannot exceed the authority granted by the statute...
EPA has way too much overreach the power they have is ridiculous, slowly making it impossible to make money starting from nothing because of how much work it is to stay compliant while being reliable in all scopes.
That's why lobbying politicians should be ILLEGAL. Big corporations lobby these people to enforce this crap through alphabet agencies to take out the little guy. They want us in a fascist state.
They only have the power because we let them continue. Even the borla decision can go another round based on this decision. As it's based on the same theory. Congress did not enact the law with emissions. The EPA wrote it.
EPA, ATF, IRS… the government in general has too damn much overreach. This is what happens when people vote Democrat. They go from being citizens to being subjects. Which would you prefer?
So what ur saying is we need to abolish the epa because they are infringing on our rights
Yes
Simply put, add more emissions devices to diesels, while causing them to drop in fuel economy, break down more often, more costly to repair, and less desirable as time goes by. Great job EPA! I'm sure the truck industry appreciates it, and the shipping industry slowly grinds to an inevitable halt.
Great interview, thank you for posting. I have a 1997 Chevy C1500 that I want to swap a mild cam into. Looking at the EPA laws, it's probably illegal.
Only if they tear open the engine to prove you
Modified it
I have a 97 1500 as well, 25yr old now in TX. Everything is coming off and crammed LS with headers is going in. Can’t wait!
Consider that the new green deal act just passed under the guise of inflation reduction act. This may all be a moot point.
Remember folks. ONE container ship puts out the same emissions as 50,000,000 cars PER DAY
Good news they are inacting regulations to reduce ship emissions by requiring using cleaner fuel. Bad news, it will make diesel more expensive. More regulations take affect Jan 1.
I believe he was talking about the June 2022 ruling. In August 2022 this was changed with the updated clean air act and new Supreme Court ruling.
It’s cool that he mentioned Borla. My grandpa and Alex Borla were great friends until Alex’s passing this year, rip. I toured their facility in Tennessee; what a great facility with even greater staff.
Anybody can buy tube and make fittings. WE NEED OPEN SOURCE ecm software. Someone makes this hands it out for free no one gets in trouble. The over reach has gone on too long. No other country is being this crazy about emissions. We are not the world police. They going to stop us all? Diesel insurection?!😅
Ok commie
Unfortunately, other countries ARE more crazy about emissions..European countries, for example, like Germany and many others...even countries like India have crazy emission laws in some of their cities, like you can't have a car that is over a certain number of years old, taxi's, etc. also, because of emissions. Japan also has crazy emissions laws, that's why Australia is able to get a lot of good used cars from Japan, because they can't be driven in Japan any more.
The EPA has insisted this junk be put on my little John Deere Tractor, talk about a waste of time and money. It only runs about 30 hours a year and when it does I have to keep it at higher RPM needlessly in an attempt to keep the DPF happy which burns more fuel.
It ruins it. I wonder if it can be removed cleanly as if to replace it at a future time. The thing is now it's still going to try to regen or something and needs an ecu program. I wonder if there's anything like a piggyback programmer you need.
@@marshmower I'm not sure, I hope that there is a solution by the time it gives out.
I would like to hear the newest responses regarding the newest EPA ruling. The EPA does not have jurisdiction over your private property and I would think that would also apply to your personal property.
So I would like to hear a legal analysis as to if this would apply to deleting your diesel truck ????
Them doing the best for Americans would be to leave us the fuck alone and stay out of our business until they are prepared to cover the financial damage of the egregious overreach. They don't pay the monthly note, or the fuel bill so they really don't give a shit about anything but ultimate control.
When it comes to the EPA there is nothing MORE or AS important as stopping the Chemtrailing. If THAT doesn't stop nothing is going to matter. Not one thing.
Yup climate changes everyday. I'm sick of idiots saying they think climate change is real cool I don't. You don't get to tell me what to do because your beliefs. It's crazy 🤪.
I’m with you
Or hold the government responsible for pointing out the problem. Make them create and plant "air scrubbers". They can fix the problem and the rest of us can get rid of faulty equipment.
Regarding the EPA vs Borla case, what happens when a vehicle was never intended for operations on public streets and highways, can a state ban them from operating?
Case in point: many states allow surplus military HMMWVs to be registered on the street and highways for operations. However, Kalifornia now no longer allows for registrations of these HMMWVs!
The sad thing is they will push to allow the epa to make these rulings and will say that firearms release too many greenhouse gasses
The fact that that could happen is sad as well this is how these people are and most of them don't know what their talking about
No more beef, because of the emissions of cow farts 😂
Good information.
For those of you saying why doesn't it apply to gas vehicles... in March of 2022 Cobb Accessport took away the ability to tune engines without emission devices and took away ability to ignore DTC codes that those engines throw. Luckily I got my 700awhp Subaru wrx Sti tuned before they took it away. But yes its on gas and Ethanol cars as well. Parts like catless downpipes, high flow cats, EGR deletes, Air pump deletes, TGV deletes, Flex fuel sensors that hook up and draw power from emmision sensors are illegal now. But they went after the manufacturers of these tuning devices. Standalone systems are the only way to fully tune now.
Does any out there know why there’s a need to have an EGR system, when there are other devices in place to handle nox and co2?
People didn't see the encroachment on their rights until it became relevant. Its like the frog in the water on a stove analogy.Slow heat and the frog will never notice. 3000 page bills with 30 different issues passed in a package deal is how its done.
I remember the fuel shortage and they wanted to ban the Indy 500 because race cars use to much gas. Well they were suprised when it was pointed out that Indy race cars didn't run on gas but pleasure boats consume more gas than racers. So when are they going after the industry's that are polluting more than race cars and streetcars like private planes and helicopters.
Wow Amazing breakdown like no other. Bravo. Much Love and God Bless. JL
Screw em I just bought a 2019 duramax and will do whatever I want
This lawyer made the most ignorant statement that I hear from so many people. “I’m not a constitutional lawyer or a Supreme Court expert” inferring that he does not have the authority to interpret the constitution. Conveniently for us the constitution was written in plain English and its meaning is not inclusive to constitutional lawyers and supreme court judges! The constitution means exactly what it says by the terms and definitions of that time period! There is no room for interpretation there is only confetti about the application of the constitution which any American citizen is entitled to read and understand the constitution. After all laws that apply to us Cannot be vague and ambiguous and if they are so complex that a normal person cannot understand them then they are void for vagueness
Not from the US so not 100% on all the laws but my argument would be “The Right to Repair.” The emissions systems on the diesel trucks is defective and it was removed to retain a useful life of the vehicle that you purchased. After the 8year /80,000 mile emissions warranty has expired it’s free game on emissions in Canada.
Here in teh US : Right to Repair is still on ongoing battle for electronics, vehicles, and more. Not that I don't agree with you 100%
Can you define delete? Aftermarket high flow parts and tuning itself is legal if you keep the original emissions systems?
The solution ....
Turning off power to D.C.!
Problem solved.
So when WOULD you judge the communists at the EPA? Maybe when they say carbon is so dangerous that we have to quit farming and then we all starve to death? [They] are at war with us and the sooner we figure it out the better chance we have of surviving...
I'm still waiting on the evidence that manufacturing and transporting DEF is less harmful then a deleted truck.
I read somewhere the DEF exhaust is so toxic, it has been linked to the demise of honey bees
@@dondalphinjr5953 it’s true ammonia oxide is what u got now. But without the emissions system and biofuels u have clean air
In watching this, I would assume that the W.Virginia case would also cover wood stove emissions?
Listening to this there is still an open question
A chassis that was not equipped with an emissions package that had a blown up engine say a 2006 model no dpf or scr system. Was rebuild and put back on road with a non modified stock pre egr engine
Say a 1999 model engine
The engine meets all epa requirements for that power plant but is installed in the 2006 chassis
This is not taking a 2022 model with a full emissions system removed and pre emissions components added
Is this one of the Grey areas in the ruling
This would compare to pulling a chassis out of junkyard or weeds and build a truck
With mixed parts
Not legal. It’s fucking bullshit but nope, technically not legal. I would say you could do it at home and be less likely to have a problem but a shop won’t or shouldn’t touch it.
Topic starts @ 18:12
The background of the case is important in our opinion. Especially with other cases on the horizon, it’s important to have context.
Awesome video! Thank you!
Thanks for listening!
In other words , all this def stuff is to reduce an essential plant nutrient.
And on top of that, the def is also a fertilizer component that is now being used for a purpose that renders it not a fertilizer.
In other words, both the pollutant and the def are both fertilizers, but they react to make non fertilizer
So, basically, the only way you can have a race vehicle is that is is based on a pre-1974 or something vehicle or be built from the ground up as an off road vehicle with no emission controls. That REALLY sucks for racing classes based on road vehicles and those are the classes beginners get into and are the lowest cost to get into.
This is not helpful to the grassroots hobbyists. Besides sometimes, you can have stock parts causing misfires which need replacing with something possibly homemade.
EPA almost put my shop out of business as they fined my automotive shop for doing automotive repairs normally saying that because we had catalytic converters Gf a vehicle while changing a clutch in two cars at the time they walked in fined us for 15k dollars and if we didn’t pay then they would pull are epa license so we couldn’t service any cars fluids we felt it was the mob show up to just money grab and force us from conducting business as Normal being in California and the cost of trying to fight this I lost my house to save my shop they need to be regulated and no Lawer at the time would touch my case for under 50k to fight them so I just paid it and lost my home and I still haven’t recorded years later
Whew! I tried to read and understand this, but talk about a run-on sentence! Punctuation and sentence structure go a long ways.
@@dyer2cycle it’s not that hard to understand.
@@braxtondraughon6669 It's not that hard to understand how to structure a sentence and paragraph, either. Nor it that hard to use punctuation. And, if you don't know how, it's quick and easy to get the information off the internet.
@@dyer2cycle it’s TH-cam. Just get over it.
@@braxtondraughon6669 Yes. Everybody is too lazy to make any effort these days.
I have a question....is there currently as much of a push on the gas aftermarket, last time I checked you could buy all the high performance parts internal and external that you want for gas engines, radical cams, cranks,gas guzzling carburators ECT.
well in March of 2022 Cobb Accessport took away the ability to tune engines without emission devices and took away ability to ignore DTC codes that those engines throw. Luckily I got my Subaru wrx Sti tuned before they took it away. But yes its on gas and Ethanol cars as well. Parts like catless downpipes, high flow cats, EGR deletes, Air pump deletes, TGV deletes, Flex fuel sensors that hook up and draw power from emmision sensors are illegal now. But they went after the manufacturers of these tuning devices. Standalone systems are the only way to fully tune now.
There should be a right to repair. And when the cure is worse than the anything it claims to help. We should have the right to remove and/or repair our own stuff.
I thought Trump was going to Delete the EPA, man I wish he did... He ran on that as well in '16 iirc
Like anyone running...they don't realize how powerful the opposition is and how much money is behind things
Be patient it’s coming
If this was already brought up, I apologize. When I had my truck deleted I did so because the DPF went out and the repairs at a dealership were going to be $5K plus. I had the truck deleted at half the price. When I picked it up, I was asked to sign a document stating the work was performed so the truck could be used off-road only. I understand this was a protection for the shop who did the work. Does this somehow make it legal?
Short answer: not really.
No, doesn’t make it legal for you at all. Just saves the shops ass in a way
@@KDlGG regardless it has t been a big issue in Texas for the most part. Wasn’t what I was looking to do necessarily, it was strictly economic at the time.
@@allencarr8222 nah texas is okay for the most far as for today. It’s actually better that you did delete it, it costed cheaper for install obviously but now you’ll get better mpg and power and reliability 😂 that’s a big bonus
@@KDlGG down here in Texas we don't got time to be fucking around with stupid shit we got work to do and if the emissions shit does nothing but break your truck then we're going to take it off
I don't why or how any diesel truck owner can come to the conclusion that after the Supreme Court ruling that every news article covered the lawsuit it mentioned it on my involved Virgins coal power plants and nothing to do with Diesel aftermarket parts sellers.
You the private owner of a diesel can do what you want but it's when you do it sell it and or are selling diesel delete aftermarket devises are going to get fined when the EPA comes after your documents or fined for not keeping documents on every part sold and who you sold it to.
Unbelievable for an appointed agency to restrict my milage in my vehicle and then call it more environment friendly because they can fake out air particulate sensors.
First few sentences of the podcast included " What can we do with our diesel trucks?" Gentlemen, if you're asking this question it's too late, you're already a subject, not a citizen.
Bloody Americans… All entitlement, no responsibility.
It’s no wonder your country is self destructing.
I’m far more concerned with not heating up the planet needlessly. Sometimes all the options suck. I’ll definitely side with trying to avoid a worse outcome for the warming of the planet than an optional, and avoidable, inconvenience of dealing with a truck issue. The less bad choice is the one the EPA is doing. It takes personal responsibility to do the right stuff instead of wasting whatever you want so you can have a big truck.
@@FirstnameLastname-bp5cm Careful, logical big picture thinking is not so popular around here ;)
@@FirstnameLastname-bp5cm Although just to be annoying, the emissions control systems being discussed here are designed to address air quality and health related emissions, not greenhouse gases. To be doubly annoying, SCR that works to reduce NOx emissions (which contribute to acid rain and respiratory problems) actually INCREASES the greenhouse emissions as the NH3 is broken into N2 and CO2 during the catalytic reaction when combined with NOx and CO in the exhaust...
DPF is a simple filter that pulls out particulate matter that is also a serious human health concern - again not a greenhouse gas mitigation technology.
So like in all things in life, compromises are made and balance struck between competing needs for emission control. The best thing to do for reducing CO2 emissions is to use less fuel - and yes that is sometimes a result of removing these things. But the cost is increasing the rate of cancer and respiratory problems in your fellow road users, and thats not cool.
But having said all that, the relative increase in CO2 from these systems is very minor, and arguably massively offset by the air quality and health outcomes achieved.
The internal combustion engine technology is simply at a dead end. Its tapped out for any meaningful improvements in either greenhouse or air quality emissions - the F150 Lightning neatly deals with both sorts of emissions completely ;)
@@froggy0162 Not annoying at all
this is to much government
Coal plants are cleaner now than they have ever been.Not sure what this has to do with deletes
I'm thinking back and forth......a well tuned "racing" engine is the most efficient when it is under "complete combustion" aka no nasty emissions......am I wrong????
SCROTUS Confidence Rating at a Historic ALL TIME LOW.
Only by the lefty’s because of their ruling on abortion and guns one if someone can’t see abortion is murder there’s something wrong with that person for the simple fact if you murder a pregnant woman on her way to a abortion clinic it’s double homicide and well gun we have the second amendment for a reason personally I don’t like either side I’m a libertarian I believe in freedom and small government
I want to see a test on a newer truck while it’s regenerating and compare it to a older truck anyone know of this kind of test???
A stock l5p produces nearly twice the horsepower of a stock lb7 for the same amount of fuel.
That would make a lot of sense! For the testing . To make the checks and balances to E-p-a .I think they can find even better solutions for performance I think more you refine fuel you might be making more pollutants.
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Rolling Coal" has always been a shining example of Self Harm.
So basically we need to just start building kit cars
or, somehow file as a manufacturer ... loop hole?
redflag laws is politicians saying we're gonna do this anyway
One of the primary functions of the administration procedures act is to make sure all regulations that effect the public, also known as substantive regulations, have a constitutional review. The administrative system of the federal government is the most abused body of law - the agencies are charged with reviewing and publishing all rules that they put into effect there are lots of rules that must be followed - there is no secret as to what the regulations require to protect the public - the 14 states that had to sue the agency should have their legal expenses compensated - especially since sections of the regulation was clearly unconstitutional ... the actual reason the administration procedures act was put into existence was to protect the citizens from actions of government employees that were not voted into office. There are courses in law school that concentrate on the administrative procedures act and all the cases that sort it out - so there is no real reason for any agency to screw up so bad as to have to get to the supreme court to issue a ruling... the agency lawyers should be sanctioned for their ineptness...
Nothing wrong with emission trucks, if you do regular maintenance, my 2019 volvo vnl 760 with 600k miles, first time cleaned dpf and in nox sensor that's it, but i am getting 8.1 mpg