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- Ultimate 4AGE trumpet test. Back to Back comparisons, stationary revs, drive by, ITB view, driving impression and of course a dyno test! Sit back and enjoy the ITB glory!!!!
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Harmonic Defiance - Everything Is Love
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JBlanked - Been On
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this video convinced me to not go turbo or supercharged, na for life
@S L if you turbo that engine you're a c0ckhead
@S L each to their own but nothing beats NA especially when it comes to reliability
@@WipeoutXXXX One thing does beat NA, and thats power and torque.
Omg Im a fan
@@Shinkaaaa torque and turbos? I though that was SC’s
if i could hear that engine everyday, I would never stop driving it.
DoubleT4596 for sure :)
Love till die.
I would never get to work! I would just keep turning around and redriving my favorite back road.
You'll never stop and never will because you can rely on toyota
Lucky me I DO get to drive and hear it every day to work and back 😉❤️
You know, there's something VERY satisfying about seeing how much fun you can get from 133 HP. The Internet nowadays can just blast on our faces 2K+ HP engines with neck breaking power, yet to see so much fun out of less than 1/10th of it, and being a car guy (even tho I don't race and all... just the family grocery getter) I also do know you still gotta know what you're doing to not destroy yourself even with that power (insert Spider Man quote about great power here) on a tree or any crash.
Kinda gives a feeling of wanting to get into it, seeing as you like, don't need outrageous cash to have some fun (tho around where I live I would still need to look quite a while to find some track or even a free safe road to try it)
Kalvinjj well these cars are just fun. Let's be honest most people cannot afford nor drive a 2,000 horsepower car. They are really only good for one thing. This is the more attainable option of enthusiasm.
What I love about cars like this is that you can flog it on a backroad, hitting high revs a lot without getting in over your head. If you have a modern supercar and you push it on a B-road you're going to get yourself killed because youre doing 150mph in an instant
why do you even NEED 2000hp. it will just wheelspin for ages if youre not on a dragtrack with phattyres
Wait I thought blacktop 4age came with 160hp? Or is it?
I would guess that's wheel HP, then you throw that ~80% conversion and such, and it would give a bit more than the 160, which is understandable from his mods. That figure I took directly from the video's dyno shots in case.
Also yes, definitely agreed with ya all above.
50mm sounds SAVAGE but the 75mm sounds the best to me. Sounds like Takumi's Trueno.
Mirage yea its what i hear too
To me 100mm sounds like the Fujiwara 86
Some Weeb haha the 75mm engine roar is same like the fujiwara
Some Weeb skip to 4:50 u will hear it
3:21
That direct ITB camera and hearing the engine being spanked hard was epic.
75mm Trumpets sound beast to me. Initial D vibes
Fake Sevenoh *Shingo becomes a word*
Fake Sevenoh Shingo definition: *Hitting an opponent in a vehicle/bike/bicycle in the rear area. Causes a small speed boost and slows the opponent. Max points gained during a spin.*
U reply to ur own comment
April Wang Someone else replied and I guess he deleted his replies
Addicted to Gasoline big oof
I just found this channel, I love the content, especially the videos regarding the 4age
So glad there's a TH-camr documenting a 4AGE build. Thank you! I'm subbed
enjoying watching all that....thanks for putting the effort!!!!
Thumbs up for that Keiichi finger pointer!
Bro, this is so awesome. Glad you take the time to do these video's! Much appreciated.
Of course Anthony, you better believe there's going to be more coming :)
I see sushpants video, I clicked the video fast!
Watched the video and came in my pants
I need more 4AGE 20V fix!
Glad I clicked this. Great video, amazing editing and music pieces!
Wow thanks for the tests it helped me figure out which one to get!!! Great content!!
Happy I went with the 100mm from guys here in Aus, better for daily driving as the power comes on better down low, and the sound is terrific! Videos will never do it justice, have to experience it in person to really know how awesome it sounds.
Very informative and well constructed video! Never imagined the trumpet size would make such a big difference.
Thank you for this video with all the proper testings and results. I am building my own blacktop. And I was thinking about what trumpets to use. Your video help alot and saved me alot of trouble 😊
Very nice, very direct , great audio and visuals!
Thank you!
I thought the exact same thing JDM...
Your videos are really high quality mate, you deserve more subs
That thing is weirdly brought me to tears, but yet I'm giggling like a little girl at the same time, seriously. Feels like remembering the memories that never happened
Amazing video! I can't wait for more content
Great video thanks, This was exactly what i was looking for. I have 25mm trumpets and wanted 100s now you just sold me on them :)
Great video! Always love the quality!
Fantastic video, well put together.
Your passion for this car shows!
Thank you :D
Just... So cool. Incredible shots of the fuel / valves.
This video is great thank you for creating this content. I really enjoyed watching this!
Great video, great comparison. Keep up the good work
Thanks for the great insight AND for the memories. Great job!
This car sounds so amazing. Ive always loved the 4AGE motor and even more I love ITBs
Thanks! The 4AGE really is an amazing motor.
@@sushpants I actually get chills listening to any of those trumpets
Great video, I don't own a NA car but I really enjoyed watching it. Also you have a good voice for video production, it makes it easier to watch haha.
Love your videos, you're a true enthusiast and you inspire me
Great work! Those 100s sound great!
aaaah i was waiting for this :D
Didn't think you could top your previous videos and then you drop this beautiful work of art. Now when are you going to put ITBs on the Elise?
ITBs on the lotus? Lotus feels pretty good as it is, but I’ve flirted with the idea of slapping a big turbo on it.
Awesome video! Gotta love the 4age!
Finally someone has done a good test
Also here for the sound. Glad I did. The 4AGE always sounded angry to me and I love it.
Awesome! You do a great presentation!
Love this video so much!
Great camera shots down the trumpets, just awesome
Once again great content thanks for the video
Wow great video!!
Fantastic vid! All the data you would need. Thank you.
3 hp less on this engine size with stock trumpets is far from being bad seen all the noise they are designed to reduce and the room they allow, with their bend.
I would say they even work very well.
Also it's very lean between 3000 and 4000 ,do you have a tuning issue ?
You could get more driveability with a tune around there.
Awesome Shirt! I picked one up many Moons ago, from the owner when he was selling at a D1 event in Irwindale Ca....Thank you for the velocity stacks (VW world '86) information!
Fwd Corolla too. I love those FX16s. Great little car and tons of fun. I have a 7th gen Celica that i love too. Toyota made their low powered cars a a lot of fun.
awesome video buddy!!
Excellent video sushpants. I wonder what would happen if you were to match those ITBs with a surge tank and an airbox. I'm quite sure the sound would get muffled, but I have no idea what that would do to power delivery. It could be a good idea for your next video.
Did you manage to do that
The Best itb video! Wow!
Personally I like the 50mm the best it sounds a bit deeper while keeping that ITB glory sound. 75 sounds good, but 100 is a close close second to 50 in my opinion. Awesome, quality video!
Awesome video! Im building a black top 4age KP61 starlet and daily a black top 4age 6 speed toyota carib so this video was very helpful!
Chris van Turnhout I've so regretted selling my kp60 estate :(
Excellent dude, simply excellent.
Nice difinitive video. I've got 50mm SQE trumpets on my daily and yeah I do a lot of downshifting when I need it to go. Stoked to have you in our NZ 4AGE group too.
K to the K what is this NZ 4age group you talk of? Im in nz with 2 black top 4age cars (well one is being built) but close enough. Fb page?
I might get the 100mm and 75mm or 75mm and 50mm from SQE for my 20 Valve blacktop soon!
This video is gold mine!
Thanks Man, I've been literally thinking about what lengths I should get for my 20v, 100mm it is!!
perfect review and scientific test
Ear phones is a must for these vids 😍👌👍
It all depends on the cam you have and where peak power is. There are free intake runner calculators online. Sizing the runner length to the cam can actually give a noticeable bump in power. Based on valve timing and the pressure waves of the intake air, the intake runner length should be tuned so the pressure wave hits as soon as the valve opens essentially giving a supercharging effect.
Thanx for the video, this one was real interest.
I want itbs 😍 it sounds so nice ! Love the intro
Nice video man!
Sushpants I love your channel bro. Thank you so much for sharing all the information with us. I have a request for you however do you mind making a brief video on whats needed to install itb’s and how to install/tune them please.
I cant wait for the next video on this car man! looking to put a blacktop in my ae82 one day (:
should see if u can get a Yamaha r1 variable trumpets and see if u can run it some how .. best of both worlds be insane.. nice video to man loved it
give her an extra 300 rpm you know you want to haha
4AGE for daily driving will make my day complete. end of the story., the roaring sound like an orchestra playing is so good to hear.
Nice vid man!
I had am AE92 (GTi) running a stock 4AGE with pod, not trumpets. Loved the odd whistle from low down and then the roar as it wound out to the 7800rpm limit. Best sounding motor. Of course the rally AE86 I used to navigate in with trumpets and 150 HP sounded awesome too at 8500
Nice! Subbed in the first 10 seconds of video.
Good on ya for sharing this!
Excellent Review!
dude this video is awesome! thanks for your effort, the info i got is exactly what i need!
If you look at the air fuel ratio you will see that the engine runs leaner with the stock rubber. This indicates more air entering the engine. If you remapped (add fuel to the specific load sites on the map) on the setup which runs leanest then you will see power gains. Just because you see a change only means its different not better or worse unless you adjust the afr to compliment the change :) cracking video though!!!
Great vid. Thanks for this! Still waiting tho for my 4age BT to be installed. :)
Love the port shots.
Me too :D
top video bro.
what would or been nice is , although the sound of ITBs are addictive , whether the stock airbox vs ITbs are better ....what sort of gains are made ?
Very interesting video. Just a bit of trivia, the Suzuki M16A engine is actually quite similar in function to the 4AGE , it's essentially a more modern day version of the motor. Albeit it revs a bit less.
Those rubber ones are quiet!
Btw love the in depth reviews and showing of dyno charts
Video quality amazing, presenting amazing, sound and car amazing, Amazing
50 and 75 mm run rich af
Exactly, everyone is looking at the wrong part of the graph. Unless of course it's a race car or if people only care about induction sound.
For daily driven cars, who wants that massive hole in the torque curve between 3500 to 5000 rpm where 90% of your driving will be done?
I went down that path of fitting high quality 50mm trumpets to mine, but reverted back to the factory trumpets because the lack in torque under 6000rpm was that bad.
timhnz 75 hp vs 90 at 4500 or a dyno error at 7k+ that IS what im talkin bout.
Fukn math bro
Longer is better for street. Probably longer than 100
its all about that air intake velocity and turbulence, yes even intake lengths differentiate that short make that much of a difference in how the engine breathes and performs,
Very nice video with dyno graphs to prove.
When I had my 20V, I ran 90mm length, a copy of the Toda specs. Car ran really nice, but I also had a set of aftermarket cams in. 1 thing I would change would've been to get a set of CatCams & not the locally billet cut cams I had. I ran 293 degree with 9.5mm lift cams.
The 20V engine is a true work of art.
Link to those cams? I need that
@@bryan10444 cams wasn't purchased online. You can contact Sportcam in Cape Town, Stikland
i had Keihin CVK40 carbs on mine and yes, that mid range boost in hp was strong
Finally someone did a video like this!
Great video. Excellent entertainment!
Cool! Thank you for this useful information)
Awesome test i have the 75 mm just as i suspected the longer the more power.
obviously any change to a system will work best when everything else is changed to suite, but as for the shorter trumpets, you should be able to get a lot more out of them if the entire flow package is optimized for the same rev-range. still awesome comparison video!
It’s just so aggressive I absolutely love it
The pointer with the little white glove is the best thing in the world
As you are changing the VE by changing the length of the trumpets it would require a slight change of engine mapping for a realistic test
Well done, awesome and informative video. Are you using an aftermarket ecu with the ITB's ? I am currently using my stock ecu with 90mm trumpets, sounds amazing. Is this good for the vehicle though on the stock ecu ? or will the closed plenum make more power on stock ecu ?
He was on stock ECU here
Interesting back to back comparisons, not just the actual torque/power differences but the sound.
Most people, even "car" guys don't realise that the inlet tract length affects the cylinder filling, just like exhaust pipe length does - partially due to the potential velocity increase but mostly due to the change in the pressure waves in the inlet tract*.
The way it was trending, would have been interesting to see what would have happened with even longer trumpets...?
*From that, some of you will realise the intake camshaft timing will affect what benefits are realised from changing the trumpet lengths, and what the optimum trumpet length is.
I do miss owning a 4age GT corroler . one of the most fun cars I have ever owned .
BEST ITB VID EVA
Keep it up bro!!
speaking of future upgrades, I've heard you mention poncams in the near future ;) any word on when that mixtape drops?
I love that 50mm sound. It’s the best for me, and it sound so much gnarlier than the rest.
That's a cool intro!!!
Really informative video! I always asked myself how much of an impact the trumpets make , at the moment Im driving with K&N filters instead of trumpets but Ive driven the stock trumpets also.
Didnt felt like a lot of difference.
I have R1 carburetors on my engine.
Soo Im planning to get some aftermarket long trumpets I guess.
And how about trumpets with a filter? Ive got my carbs on the front so I must use some kind of filters I think ,because it will suck in way easier sand etc.