Keep Baker Mayfield ❌ Keep Joe Flacco❌ Sign a different QB cheaper❌ Build in Draft❌ Sigh a washed up serial rap*St to ruin our franchise in a massive mega deal ✅ Only the Browns
Not really-signing Flacco was a CLEAR call by ownership. They knew if Watson started to play awful, the fans would be hounding the coach to play Flacco
This year, I kind of feel like Stefanski has given up. He's had decent success with Baker and Flacco, but it feels like the owners are making him play Watson, as a result Stefanski might be saying fuck it. He's a good coach, and I like him, but I think he's had enough there.
@@kingzut The guy that set the rookie touchdown record in a partial season? The guy who helped elevate an 0-16 team to playoff contenders? The guy who won the Browns their first playoff game since 1994? The guy who played through multiple injuries to keep the team afloat? Yeah, totally not a franchise quarterback. To quote the Joker, Cleveland, you get what you fuckin deserve!
@@kingzutHe'd won them their only playoff game since the team "returned from its hiatus" in 1999. Prior to that, his rookie season was at the time one of the best ever and took the Browns from 1-31 across the two seasons before him to 7-8-1 with him under center. The year the Browns got rid of him, he was playing with an injured shoulder that I'm pretty sure team staff refused to correctly rehabilitate. He's as much of a franchise quarterback as they've had in this century.
Biggest mental meltdown since Ben Simmons. He lost too much time not playing, didn't evolve, got older, got slower, surgically repaired throwing shoulder, it really was the perfect storm of disaster.
We as a society need to be as harsh as possible towards men who are sexual predators. That shit is NOT acceptable in any way, shape or form. Cheering his injury was one of the few ways we could tell the NFL that having him in the league was horrible.
Despite the idiotic talking sports heads on espn trying to gaslight us into feeling bad for being happy about it. Fuck Deshaun Watson. He’s such a POS human. I have no sympathy for a serial sexual assaulter getting injured.
@@s.s.99The injury is actually a huge win for Watson. He gets paid and doesn't have to humiliate himself in front of millions of people every week for awhile.
@@kiaadams104 OK there's logic in that. But there is more logic in that they could only win once they dismissed the team name, team colors, all previous association of Cleveland and abandoned the city And upon doing so win 2 Super Bowls in what, 15 years(?) Vs the Brown what, 45 (?) years of zero Super Bowl years with 0 Super Bowl wins in the Super Bowl era. I mean other than that they are carbon copies of the Cleveland Browns. They even look the same if the sun hits them Juuussst right. Ya know.
@@kiaadams104 Saying that the Browns were in any way responsible for the Raven's success as a franchise is like watching a five year-old open a jar of pickles that you couldn't, then grumbling that you were the one who loosened it for him.
Yall all sound triggered. I'm just stating facts. Browns are the AFC north. Ravens, Bengals, Browns all have there roots in Cleveland. 3 of the 4 AFC North teams have direct connection to Browns. And Steelers first great head coach was drafted and played for the Browns and was an assistant coach with Browns before going to Pittsburgh. Browns are kinda the heart of the AFC North..interesting stuff.
As a Browns fan and NE Ohio native. Let me say: -Cut Deshaun, I NEVER wanted him or his crimes -Sell the team Haslam, we WILL NOT give public money for a stadium in Brook Park
They can't really cut Deshaun Watson right now. The cap hit would be catastrophic. Trading him would make more sense if someone was willing to take the rest of that contract.
Never forget TONS of browns fans were excusing or minimizing watson's legal troubles when this trade went down. They only turned on him when he sucked. Don't let them rewrite history!
And TONS of Browns fans, myself included, HATED the trade and turned my back on the Browns every time Watson was on the field. Lot's of Browns fans did not deserve this.
Stefanski relinquished play calling duties because he couldn't take it anymore. Imagine walking someone step by step on how to bake a cake and they show up with oatmeal raisin cookies every week.
As a former baker I want you to know that this is hilarious and also I will be waking up in a cold sweat at 2am remembering all the hopeless fools I've tried to help bake 😂. Just the difference between a Tablespoon and a teaspoon is too hard for some people.
After the injury, this is by far the worst contract in NFL history and possibly in all of major sports. Gave the highest ever guaranteed contract to a serial r@p!st to replace the QB who lead them to their first playoff win in nearly 2 decades, all for him to be an absolute bum and the worst QB in the league every time he played. Got like 20 games out of him, and he played well in like 3. Now he's done for, and Browns are stuck in cap hell when they traded for Watson to try to compete for a SB. They ruined their once a generation SB window all for a r@p!st. It's glorious karma.
At least RW did somewhat decently his 2nd year in Denver, though it wasn't enough to justify keeping him. Deshaun, however...has been remarkably horrendous, and hasn't improved since his trade.
@@JonasBluntson no there’s no defense for Watson he’s a predator and should be behind bars stop defending someone who paid 33 to 55 million dollars to his victims that’s not something innocent people do end of story
it’s so weird because it’s a situation where you can’t even feel bad for the browns, like you trade for a perv ON TOP OF THE FACT he was going to go almost two years without playing (or even practicing)
@@michaeltriola3978 Watson defenders are pretty much all black, however since most of these forums are so liberal, they find it difficult to whine about all dem racist Browns fans trying to take 200 million from blacks. I see it occasionally and I'm always thunderstruck. I suppose it's no surprise that the Browns also had Miles Garrett and Kareem Hunt. We know they don't give a fuck.
@@henlo1910 100% that's what they did. I hope they see looking like morons in the playoffs is a lot better than the catastrophe they are displaying this year. Reap what you sow.
Haslam didn't want to listen to demands to replace Watson with Flacco. Like any narcissist, he refuses to admit what a bonehead mistake he made in ruining the franchise by insisting on bringing in Watson.
Fans would have called for Flacco by the 3rd game. Flacco said the Clowns didn't even offer him a contract. Complete incompetence by the front office. Wasted another year.
I’m almost certain ownership refused to sign him due to the circumstances. Can you imagine the hellfire if Flacco was sidelines during all this? They essentially didn’t sign him to avoid an already horrible media frenzy
Flacco? I mean sure when you already done fucked it but they SHOULD have kept Baker. I'm from the area, though my family and friends are split between Browns and Steelers fans, Ive never taken a side, but even I went "No, wtf are you doing!? That man saved you!" When they did that to Baker. And pretty much everyone else feels the same. They did Baker dirty and now they're reaping what they sowed
The Browns and QB issues, a story as old as time. They drafted a good QB in Baker and fumbled that horribly despite having good players on D and offense.
As a Jags fan who knows nothing but eternal suffering, I felt a sense of camaraderie for the Browns when they went 0-16. I cheered when they finally won a game the next season. That being said, I’m going to thoroughly enjoy watching this organization nosedive into the ground for seasons to come.
A few weeks ago in response to comments about his awful play, Desean Watson's response was that he wasn't concerned. "I'm Desean Watson." I laughed uproariously at that. The attitude that led to his legal problems.
Him getting hurt was the most disappointing thing to happen this year. It was like watching a Cleveland car wreck every weekend 😂 We won't see play that bad again for a long time, he made Mark Sanchez and Johnny Football look decent.
Watson's contract is going to be an eye-opener when it comes to how NFL teams can bend the salary cap to their will. This contract and his injury should basically bankrupt this organization, but when all is said and done, it will not. Mark my words if Watson does anything that saves the Browns money i.e. medically retires, it's because he has been offered something under the table, and the NFL is helping to make the deal.
I don’t even think it’s an eye opener. Even when the contract was announced, it was pretty clearly a HIGHLY risky contract. I seriously don’t think any other team would have offered that at the time.
@Alexnader8788 The eye-opener I speak about will be how the Browns all but completely negate the dead money. People think the remaining money will be devastating to the Browns' cap, but if we have learned anything from NFL, it's the fact that their accountants have mastered ways around it.
@@mrbilly9917Let me guess, “20+ woman bro or he settled out of court?” That doesn’t automatically result in him being guilty. With your logic, Kobe is guilty because he settled out of court. People were quick to judge Matt Araiza for being a pedo until the allegations turned out to be not true. I’m not saying he’s innocent or guilty but Watson’s evidence is far less credible than like a Diddy.
@@tacotruck5009Sure. Someone for some reason decided to form a conspiracy to falsely accuse Watson of inappropriate sexual behavior and then got over 20 women to agree to pretend to be victims. That makes much more sense than Watson being a disgusting creep. The way you people defend him makes me wonder about _your_ behavior.
Bengals fan here. Our team seems to have an unusual amount of high profile injuries that either happen to us, or the opposing team when we play them. Krumrie, Palmer, Antonio Brown, Keith Rivers, Tua, Hamlin, and now Watson. Just to name a few!
I've noticed that, too. And like you said, that list isn't even close to complete. Bo Jackson, Ickey Woods, David Pollack, Joe Burrow, hell even going back as far as Greg Cook. I'm sure it's just selective awareness--watching mostly Bengals games, it stands to reason that most injuries I witness and remember would happen during Bengals games--but still. Seems inordinately high.
As a fellow Broncos fan who suffered through the Wilson debacle it's so refreshing to get back to talking about the Browns as the paragon of mismanagement.
Yeah, I recall reading that my Hawks were interested in him, and everyone I knew basically said if we sign him we're picking a new team to support. I don't know if we actually would have (turning agaist your team is easier said than done), but I'm glad we never had to find out.
*simulated recreation of the "bidding war" Houston- so... ahh we have this good qb that we hate and he hates us and he has tons of off the field problems. we cant force him to play and have zero leverage Some other NFL teams - i'll offer a first/second round pick. maybe a second second on condition of good play. the Browns - I'll give you 3 years of every draft pick that matters and our new contract for him will be the largest in the history of the nfl! everyone else- ummm what the fuck... thats not a bidding war. thats a drunk moron selling his billion dollar organizations future
As a Lions fan, I think the only good thing that Deshaun Watson has done in the 2020's was beating the Detroit Lions on Thanksgiving Day. Why is that? That led to the team afterwards firing Matt Patricia, and led to them hiring Dan Campbell, and turning this franchise around So thanks for that, Watson, you horrible creep
@@resistance_2025That’s up there but usually RBs decline quickly quite often. Whereas rarely do you see a arguably top 5 QB fall off to literally worse than a back-up QB within a couple seasons.
The craziest thing about this is that Deshaun Watson is STILL ranked #6 in highest career passer rating in NFL HISTORY. That's after he's dropped slightly the past couple of years. Supposedly the Texans implemented an offense similar to Watson's college offense and Stefanski refused to do the same, with all the injuries and suspensions, I guess he just never got the chance to learn a pro style offense. Honestly one of the craziest career arcs in nfl history. This year is just so full of examples reminding us that QB's are HIGHLY dependent on their surroundings. You cannot take a qb out of one situation, put him in another, and expect the same results. The NFL also needs to go back to the days of sitting their rookie qb's for a year or two instead of throwing them into the fire immediately. Yeah SOME rookies keep up but most don't and then they get shat on for sucking when a lot of them simply need more development. Go back and look at Josh Allen's or Lamar Jackson's rookie years vs. later years. These are two of the most talented QB's in the league and they were mediocre as rookies.
Absolutely ended his career, not just his time with the Browns. He’s not good enough to be a starter, is injury prone, doesn’t have the experience to be a viable backup and no team wants the baggage he brings. I doubt he wants to play football again anyway. Just take his $240m and go grope masseuses some more.
@@TylerG69 diddy had over 1200, yes that is a 12 with 2 0s, 1200, men, women, girls and boys, including a 9 year old, come forward, deshaun has 20, not good but nowhere in the same ball park
@@burns4246Facts not even the same stratosphere. Deshaun a horrible person for sure, but he's not been running a decades long sexual deviancy, blackmail and pedo ring, with possible other activities like murder and shit like the attempted car bombing on Kid Cudi. Deshaun should be in jail, but Diddy should be in the ground.
The problem is guaranteed contracts. Stop guaranteeing millions to these players and let them perform to earn their keep. 50M guaranteed is still a truckload of money!
But but but these are essential people to society. Screw firemen, nurses, electricians. We need people who can do good things with a ball in a rigged gambling sport with an injury report
Old guy here. This is so weird. He had a fantastic college career, and was really good in Houston. Then his off field problems surfaced and that seemed to drain his will to play with any positivity. I just wonder, how the Sam Hill did he get that HUGE contract with all that guaranteed money?? Somebody make it make sense.
that the kicker for me. the guy had off field issue before the contract so why the brown slip in a let bail clause a lot sooner. 2 to 3 years to prove himself with an extension if he manage to showcase his talent if he did well. that contract had too many years on a qb that could end up in jail at any point during his stay. such a bad contract that it has at least 2 more years before the brown can wash their hands
In a parallel universe, the Browns keep their incumbent QB and don't squander three 1sts to get a QB with character issues. You can actually view this parallel universe ... it's the movie "Draft Day". (And yes, they did make that trade in the beginning ... but by the end, they fixed all their mistakes.)
Le'veon Bell. All-Galaxy behind the Steelers OL at the time. Sits out 2018 after being tagged, ends up playing for NYJ and his performance goes down like the Bismarck. I feel this is more a product of the Jets and Steelers OL being worlds apart in quality at the time rather than Bell's skill level plummeting, but it is a complex question to answer
@@sighliyah I don't see any in the comments. If someone tried, they would get jumped on. His play has been terrible on top of being a horrible person, nobody is going to attempt to defend that.
@@resistance_2025 you might not see any on this specific video (yet) but he’s been getting defended on various other platforms since the allegations and this most recent injury. it’s pretty gross.
As a browns fan, i hated this trade. Imagine if we had Baker with this roster last year or this year. They could've gone at least a game into the playoffs last year. But i also hate that other teams are just forgotten on who was willing to pay this ransom
you forgot to mention in the deep dive that in houston they had to run the clemson offense because it was the only one that worked, you can see when he moves to a different offense he just sucks.
In Watsons defense. A good coach should always play to the strengths of his players. If he understands Clemsona offense. Use that and build variation. Not a Watson defender though. Don’t SA women.
Should have kept Baker and lots of us said it at the time. He was a gamer. Won CLE its first playoff game in the "new Browns" era. OBJ said Baker had a such a strong arm catchin' his passes hurt. I love seeing Baker succeed.
I understand not praising someone having a major injury. It’s easy to say “think of how he feels with such an injury.” But then again; let’s think about the massage therapists and how they feel. This is easily the best thing to happen to the browns this year. Karma is crazy.
The Browns beat the Ravens today. It’s very possible that the Browns wasted this entire season by starting Deshaun Watson instead of just going with a backup the whole time. This is not the first time this has happened as Joe Flacco led them to the playoffs last season and they still traded him so they could start Watson this season. What’s even funnier is they very well might do it again. The Browns have what it takes to be a potential contender and the team ownership/Deshaun continue to squander that opportunity.
I feel so so bad for Wentz but I gotta say. I like Hurts more. But i wouldn’t mind if he had stayed the eagles backup. He would be a solid backup and at least he could have a stable finish to his career
@@iswiftyfox8997 Now we got to watch him run that ridiculous triple option play with the Chiefs. Don't be surprised if you see more of him especially with how bad that offense looks and Mahomes playing poorly this year. Any Reid is ready to just go crazy.
I think the only way the brownies can recover from this in any kind of reduced time frame would be to trade the best players away to improve their draft. Fire sell. Letting Cooper go should just be the start. That is sad. But rookie contracts can help their cap space. They could also develop these rookies into a team. ( the lions did it in 3 yrs.) I hate to see this for the browns. Their luck runs as poorly as the lion's used to. The lion's rebuild had a committed structure from the owner, front office, GM and Coach. All on the same page.
I grew up around Detroit and moved to Cleveland about 8 years ago. Needles to say I’ve seen 40+ years of bad football up close. Seeing the Lions finally start to turn their franchise around really shows the ineptitude of The Browns.
8:09 don't forget that the league made his suspension arbitrarily 11 games so he could make his return against... the texans lmao. Who cares about a fair punishment, gotta sell the revenge game lmao
I using root for underdog teams, but after they keep making terrible decision like its a competition and they did so many players dirty, i became a hater. I remember some random clip where they said they didnt need odell only for odell to get a ring at the rams. Dallas, kc (they have so many toxic people associated with them), and the browns are the teams i always cheer for the other team. I eased up a bit for kc. Kermit is pretty cool.
As a 50 year Browns fan I am amazed at how schiddy we are knowing full well we can get even shiddier! And they want 2 Billion from the taxpayers for a new stadium outside of Cleveland. 😢
I think Stefanski was being forced to start him. So he's probably getting fired after this year. Haslam actually had something special here and his meddling has blown it up so badly that a huge chunk of what was an unshakably loyal fanbase is so done that we don't care if they move the team out of Cleveland again. I'm a Bucs fan until he either dies or sells the team. He's the new Dan Snyder. Fuck Haslam.
4:36 God, remember when Osweiler's $16M AAV contract was discussed as a critical mistake? An albatross that would set the Texans back years, and Houston had to trade away a 2nd round pick alongside him just to get rid of it? Now Trevor Lawrence gets paid $55M AAV to be mediocre and nobody even cares. It's crazy how much the financial side has changed in the last 10 years.
Because the rich have gotten far richer since obama decided to print Infinity money to save the housing crash and banking crash in 2010. Now we didn't see inflation because most of that liquidity ( money) was just sent to the rich. Keeping the debt bubble growing and having money flow between the rich is how the system works, they screwed up sending us money during covid.
Bryce Young, Russell Wilson and Trey Lance are not quite as bad as the Desean Watson trade. But they are all up there. At least the Niners bumbled their way into Brock Purdy.
Between this and the Russell Wilson trade. Teams will have learned their lesson. Buying franchise QB's with a ton of draft capital is no guarantee of success.
I just don’t think this situation was completely unknown. Like, predator behavior escalates over time. Watson had to be doing some shenanigans in Clemson. It just makes sense. Maybe not to the same severity as we have heard recently, but he was probably building up to what we know now.
If anybody has learned anything, a fully guaranteed contract sets an incredibly dangerous precedent. It happened, and the worst-case scenario happened. I don’t think we’ll see a fully guaranteed contract like this for a very, very long time
Hey man, I've been watching for a couple years and I just want to say it looks like your having the most amount of fun this year and it's great to watch. Keep it up, I'm not gonna subscribe tho
I don't understand why people say this is the worst NFL trade. As a Texans fan, this is the best trade of all time.
How about 1 sided trade as a better statement then?
As a browns fan, this is the worst of seen and I've been a fan since 1-15 season
Yesssirr 😂😂😂
Fleeced the browns
Almost beats Hopkins for Davidson, or Wilson for my Bronco's future.
Keep Baker Mayfield ❌
Keep Joe Flacco❌
Sign a different QB cheaper❌
Build in Draft❌
Sigh a washed up serial rap*St to ruin our franchise in a massive mega deal ✅
Only the Browns
Browns gonna Brown
Not really-signing Flacco was a CLEAR call by ownership. They knew if Watson started to play awful, the fans would be hounding the coach to play Flacco
This year, I kind of feel like Stefanski has given up. He's had decent success with Baker and Flacco, but it feels like the owners are making him play Watson, as a result Stefanski might be saying fuck it. He's a good coach, and I like him, but I think he's had enough there.
Even without the allegations he was a massive flop after. He just was a backup QB. He has inflated numbers while in Houston.
Let's be fair... It seems like a move that Carolina would also be able to pull off without too much surprise.
Somewhere sits Baker Mayfield giggling to himself.
Baker is in tears since Godwin and Evans are out
@@TehKaiser tears no, but he is definitely deeply concerned
even Joe Flacco. Haslam's gonna be stuck crying salty tears
Baker suck 😂😂
@@JonasBluntson he's second in yards and first in TDs lmfao
The browns finally getting a franchise quarterback in baker mayfield only to run him out of the building is peak browns performance
tbf he wasnt playing like a franchise QB there and may never have but the trade was just terrible
Is that the Browns' way of Chargering? 😂
@@kingzut The guy that set the rookie touchdown record in a partial season? The guy who helped elevate an 0-16 team to playoff contenders? The guy who won the Browns their first playoff game since 1994? The guy who played through multiple injuries to keep the team afloat? Yeah, totally not a franchise quarterback. To quote the Joker, Cleveland, you get what you fuckin deserve!
You misspelled Joseph Flacco
@@kingzutHe'd won them their only playoff game since the team "returned from its hiatus" in 1999. Prior to that, his rookie season was at the time one of the best ever and took the Browns from 1-31 across the two seasons before him to 7-8-1 with him under center. The year the Browns got rid of him, he was playing with an injured shoulder that I'm pretty sure team staff refused to correctly rehabilitate. He's as much of a franchise quarterback as they've had in this century.
“Can’t massage his contract” had me dead
Was a great line
This is the greatest karma I’ve ever seen. For both the player and the organization. I hope Baker wins a Super Bowl to rub it in.
God that would be incredible
Texans vs Bucs Super Bowl would make it the most karmic
Baker and the bucs versus CJ Stroud and the Texans, for maximum torment.
@@ironrevenger9386 On a side note, it would also be hilarious to see Houston make it to a Superbowl before Dallas.
F the current brownies organization and f the predator back 😂
In 2014, Johnny Manziel had a 53% first-down conversion rate on 3rd down.
Yeah Johnny was still a great option in the run game which always helps on 3rd down. The problem was that he couldn’t throw a football 😂
@MFBloosh he was too busy making money signs to throw the ball.
And throw in Kurt angle into the mix and he has a 110 chance at winning @ Sacrifice
@@jiovanysoltero923bro are you in the right chat?
@humptydumpty1575 idk but I now kinda want to see it.
Bengals fan here:
C'mon Cleveland, you're rushing to judgement on Deshaun. Better give him a couple more years to see if he can get it back together.
Ur evil asf for this lol
😂😂😂
Yeah, they will, because it's already paid for
As a Ravens fan a 100% agree. Give em another chance 😂
I think it’d boost Watson’s confidence if they extended his guaranteed contract 👍
Biggest mental meltdown since Ben Simmons. He lost too much time not playing, didn't evolve, got older, got slower, surgically repaired throwing shoulder, it really was the perfect storm of disaster.
Truth
Also think about the mental ramifications of literally millions of people watching and knowing he’s a serial pervert😭
He also got too relaxed and comfortable with all the massages!
If you had a massive contract locked in, why would you play well? He's going to get paid a quarter billion dollars regardless!
This was like the only time it was collectively okay for us to be somewhat happy about an injury😭
We as a society need to be as harsh as possible towards men who are sexual predators. That shit is NOT acceptable in any way, shape or form. Cheering his injury was one of the few ways we could tell the NFL that having him in the league was horrible.
That’s a reach honestly
Despite the idiotic talking sports heads on espn trying to gaslight us into feeling bad for being happy about it. Fuck Deshaun Watson. He’s such a POS human. I have no sympathy for a serial sexual assaulter getting injured.
@@johnchedsey1306Especially the ones in 👗
@@s.s.99The injury is actually a huge win for Watson. He gets paid and doesn't have to humiliate himself in front of millions of people every week for awhile.
As a Ravens fan, I'm not sad he got hurt. Just sad he got hurt before we had a chance to play this historic offense.
Ravens were created by the Browns
@@kiaadams104Anddd??? They’re not the same franchise anymore
@@kiaadams104 OK there's logic in that.
But there is more logic in that they could only win once they dismissed the team name, team colors, all previous association of Cleveland and abandoned the city
And upon doing so win 2 Super Bowls in what, 15 years(?) Vs the Brown what, 45 (?) years of zero Super Bowl years with 0 Super Bowl wins in the Super Bowl era.
I mean other than that they are carbon copies of the Cleveland Browns. They even look the same if the sun hits them Juuussst right.
Ya know.
@@kiaadams104 Saying that the Browns were in any way responsible for the Raven's success as a franchise is like watching a five year-old open a jar of pickles that you couldn't, then grumbling that you were the one who loosened it for him.
Yall all sound triggered. I'm just stating facts. Browns are the AFC north. Ravens, Bengals, Browns all have there roots in Cleveland. 3 of the 4 AFC North teams have direct connection to Browns. And Steelers first great head coach was drafted and played for the Browns and was an assistant coach with Browns before going to Pittsburgh.
Browns are kinda the heart of the AFC North..interesting stuff.
I'm shocked that the GM of the browns is employed. It seems the media spotlight should be on him.
Watson 100% was a call by Irsay, not the GM.
Edit: got my Jimmy’s mixed up.
@@marquisbrown9400That's amazing since Irsay owns the Colts, not the Browns. I'm sure you meant Haslam.
@@marquisbrown9400irsay? The colts owner?
@@benitomejias2881 yes, of course…..
@@BoxdHoundHe REALLY wanted Flacco.
“Let’s just normal that’sgoodsports intro” had me dead
2:45 😂😂😂😂
Bro didn’t want to go balls deep into Deshaun Watson🤣
@@s.s.99 No way Deshaun would forget it. He'd probably show up at your house in the night with baby oil for more.
@@s.s.99 you can’t blame him
As a Browns fan and NE Ohio native. Let me say:
-Cut Deshaun, I NEVER wanted him or his crimes
-Sell the team Haslam, we WILL NOT give public money for a stadium in Brook Park
As a Panthers fan... Be careful what you wish for with an owner selling the team.
They can't really cut Deshaun Watson right now. The cap hit would be catastrophic. Trading him would make more sense if someone was willing to take the rest of that contract.
@@johnnymason2460 Who's going to trade for Watson? I don't see a single team wanting to kneecap themselves by trading for him
@booshakka It's not likely. I agree with that. However, I have seen weirder deals take place over the years. Anything's possible.
Never forget TONS of browns fans were excusing or minimizing watson's legal troubles when this trade went down. They only turned on him when he sucked. Don't let them rewrite history!
I remember the massage table at the Browns tailgate.......Pepperidge Farm remembers too
And TONS of Browns fans, myself included, HATED the trade and turned my back on the Browns every time Watson was on the field. Lot's of Browns fans did not deserve this.
@@fredsroberts😂
Stefanski relinquished play calling duties because he couldn't take it anymore. Imagine walking someone step by step on how to bake a cake and they show up with oatmeal raisin cookies every week.
As a former baker I want you to know that this is hilarious and also I will be waking up in a cold sweat at 2am remembering all the hopeless fools I've tried to help bake 😂. Just the difference between a Tablespoon and a teaspoon is too hard for some people.
This is on the level of the Herschel Walker deal. My Vikings finally have competition for the worst front office transaction ever.
On the level? i think it worse. Herschelf off the field stuff was better.
More Ricky Williams deal.
nah at least those 2 werent the worst RB in the last 30 years
After the injury, this is by far the worst contract in NFL history and possibly in all of major sports. Gave the highest ever guaranteed contract to a serial r@p!st to replace the QB who lead them to their first playoff win in nearly 2 decades, all for him to be an absolute bum and the worst QB in the league every time he played. Got like 20 games out of him, and he played well in like 3. Now he's done for, and Browns are stuck in cap hell when they traded for Watson to try to compete for a SB. They ruined their once a generation SB window all for a r@p!st. It's glorious karma.
The arguments for worst trade ever comes down to Deshaun Watson, Ricky Williams, and Herschel Walker
This contract makes the Broncos RW contract now look like “just an oopsie.”
Yeah, it was more a case of "oh crap, Russell is older and more past his prime than we realized!"
As a Vikes fan it makes me happy to know the Browns beat us out.
There's also the part where RW is not a sex offender
At least RW did somewhat decently his 2nd year in Denver, though it wasn't enough to justify keeping him.
Deshaun, however...has been remarkably horrendous, and hasn't improved since his trade.
@@patrickt.6492 It's real sad that players seem to have more of an issue with Wilson being an annoying goober than Watson's bullshit
0:18 hopefully his career too
We can only hope
Or your career
@@JonasBluntson no there’s no defense for Watson he’s a predator and should be behind bars stop defending someone who paid 33 to 55 million dollars to his victims that’s not something innocent people do end of story
If lucky enough, his existence!
Am I hating him right, guys?
@@JonasBluntsongood one
it’s so weird because it’s a situation where you can’t even feel bad for the browns, like you trade for a perv ON TOP OF THE FACT he was going to go almost two years without playing (or even practicing)
It’s obvious he’s just tense and needs a massage*
What message would that be?
Probably a telegram or something that has a happy ending, heard he loves those@@geoffreypotter836
@@geoffreypotter836Play fucking better!!!
I think he meant massage
Past tense or present tense?
As a woman, I’m so happy to have Perna as an ally. Thank you for calling him a creep cause he is.
I’m currently fighting for my life on instagram because I agree with this statement. Wild times we live in
@@michaeltriola3978 Yeah, the incels doth descend upon these posts like flies to shyte.
Drink a brandy dear
@@michaeltriola3978 Watson defenders are pretty much all black, however since most of these forums are so liberal, they find it difficult to whine about all dem racist Browns fans trying to take 200 million from blacks. I see it occasionally and I'm always thunderstruck. I suppose it's no surprise that the Browns also had Miles Garrett and Kareem Hunt. We know they don't give a fuck.
@@worfsonofmogh1154 I found it so funny that the guy that tried to beat another player unconscious over an incident he made up is lecturing his fans
Did anybody ever find out why the Browns didn't resign Joe Flacco? It boggles my mind they didn't have that backup support
flacco's relative success as a backup made management look stupid, so he had to go
@@henlo1910 100% that's what they did. I hope they see looking like morons in the playoffs is a lot better than the catastrophe they are displaying this year. Reap what you sow.
Haslam didn't want to listen to demands to replace Watson with Flacco. Like any narcissist, he refuses to admit what a bonehead mistake he made in ruining the franchise by insisting on bringing in Watson.
@@charlesfaure1189 narcissism and the sunk-cost fallacy.
Fans would have called for Flacco by the 3rd game. Flacco said the Clowns didn't even offer him a contract. Complete incompetence by the front office. Wasted another year.
Should've kept Flacco
They could of used that elite talent at QB1, I agree.
People would have wanted them to start Flacco....that couldnt happen so they got rid of him
I’m almost certain ownership refused to sign him due to the circumstances. Can you imagine the hellfire if Flacco was sidelines during all this? They essentially didn’t sign him to avoid an already horrible media frenzy
@@Alexnader8788
Probably couldn't afford Him .
Lol
Flacco? I mean sure when you already done fucked it but they SHOULD have kept Baker. I'm from the area, though my family and friends are split between Browns and Steelers fans, Ive never taken a side, but even I went "No, wtf are you doing!? That man saved you!" When they did that to Baker. And pretty much everyone else feels the same. They did Baker dirty and now they're reaping what they sowed
"He sucks at home on the couch" savage. Get him. 😂
The Browns and QB issues, a story as old as time. They drafted a good QB in Baker and fumbled that horribly despite having good players on D and offense.
As a Jags fan who knows nothing but eternal suffering, I felt a sense of camaraderie for the Browns when they went 0-16. I cheered when they finally won a game the next season.
That being said, I’m going to thoroughly enjoy watching this organization nosedive into the ground for seasons to come.
Is it weird that I am going to be waiting on a guest appearance of the curse wheel?
A few weeks ago in response to comments about his awful play, Desean Watson's response was that he wasn't concerned. "I'm Desean Watson." I laughed uproariously at that. The attitude that led to his legal problems.
It’s almost like his teammates had absolutely no interest in being on the same field with him.
Him getting hurt was the most disappointing thing to happen this year. It was like watching a Cleveland car wreck every weekend 😂
We won't see play that bad again for a long time, he made Mark Sanchez and Johnny Football look decent.
Yeah but Winston could still end up the starter. Then it would just be more of the same.
17:21 The cheering when Watson got hurt might be the funniest moment of the season so far
🤣🤣🤣
Eh I don't see it as funny but more sad. And no not sad for him
that lady really get well soon'ed him
@@STREAMSONLY-vt6gx A sort of bittersweet feeling?
Watson's contract is going to be an eye-opener when it comes to how NFL teams can bend the salary cap to their will. This contract and his injury should basically bankrupt this organization, but when all is said and done, it will not. Mark my words if Watson does anything that saves the Browns money i.e. medically retires, it's because he has been offered something under the table, and the NFL is helping to make the deal.
I don’t even think it’s an eye opener. Even when the contract was announced, it was pretty clearly a HIGHLY risky contract. I seriously don’t think any other team would have offered that at the time.
@Alexnader8788 The eye-opener I speak about will be how the Browns all but completely negate the dead money. People think the remaining money will be devastating to the Browns' cap, but if we have learned anything from NFL, it's the fact that their accountants have mastered ways around it.
@@845835 Agreed, but I think it’s pretty apparent that the NFL salary cap is meaningless. Considering the Saints are WELL over it
There's reason to "mark your words". You simply asserted you'd be right.
As a Steelers fan, I was really looking forward to our two Watson games. Sad to see him go out. TJ could've used those 5 sacks
He needs more messages he looks lost out in the field.
I hate that this predator got the contract he did, but I'm glad I got to watch him fail miserably.
I hate that you label him a predator KNOWING the women were falsely accusing him
@@tacotruck5009 proof ?
@@tacotruck5009 nobody thinks he's innocent. Only people who are ok with grape stick up for him.
@@mrbilly9917Let me guess, “20+ woman bro or he settled out of court?” That doesn’t automatically result in him being guilty. With your logic, Kobe is guilty because he settled out of court. People were quick to judge Matt Araiza for being a pedo until the allegations turned out to be not true. I’m not saying he’s innocent or guilty but Watson’s evidence is far less credible than like a Diddy.
@@tacotruck5009Sure. Someone for some reason decided to form a conspiracy to falsely accuse Watson of inappropriate sexual behavior and then got over 20 women to agree to pretend to be victims. That makes much more sense than Watson being a disgusting creep.
The way you people defend him makes me wonder about _your_ behavior.
Bengals fan here. Our team seems to have an unusual amount of high profile injuries that either happen to us, or the opposing team when we play them. Krumrie, Palmer, Antonio Brown, Keith Rivers, Tua, Hamlin, and now Watson. Just to name a few!
I've noticed that, too. And like you said, that list isn't even close to complete. Bo Jackson, Ickey Woods, David Pollack, Joe Burrow, hell even going back as far as Greg Cook. I'm sure it's just selective awareness--watching mostly Bengals games, it stands to reason that most injuries I witness and remember would happen during Bengals games--but still. Seems inordinately high.
Another Bengals fan here:
You say that.........and now I can't unsee it...
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It might be Paycor stadium. You see a similar number of injuries at FedEx field and metlife.
After what they did to Baker to try and sell Watson to the fans, they deserve every bit of this.
It's like sitting out a year in your athletic prime isn't a good thing to do. He never was the same after sitting out 2021 in Houston.
He was never truly the same after he got the injury his rookie season.
As a fellow Broncos fan who suffered through the Wilson debacle it's so refreshing to get back to talking about the Browns as the paragon of mismanagement.
Weird how everyone ignores that there was a bidding war between at least 3 teams
Yeah, I recall reading that my Hawks were interested in him, and everyone I knew basically said if we sign him we're picking a new team to support. I don't know if we actually would have (turning agaist your team is easier said than done), but I'm glad we never had to find out.
True, but companies know that customers don't give a shit about who I am off the clock as long as I perform when I'm on it.
*simulated recreation of the "bidding war"
Houston- so... ahh we have this good qb that we hate and he hates us and he has tons of off the field problems. we cant force him to play and have zero leverage
Some other NFL teams - i'll offer a first/second round pick. maybe a second second on condition of good play.
the Browns - I'll give you 3 years of every draft pick that matters and our new contract for him will be the largest in the history of the nfl!
everyone else- ummm what the fuck... thats not a bidding war. thats a drunk moron selling his billion dollar organizations future
Business wise, none of them were bidding with a fully guaranteed contract. Assholes, yes. As dumb as the Browns, no.
yeah because the browns are the ones that followed through and paid him
As a Lions fan, I think the only good thing that Deshaun Watson has done in the 2020's was beating the Detroit Lions on Thanksgiving Day. Why is that? That led to the team afterwards firing Matt Patricia, and led to them hiring Dan Campbell, and turning this franchise around
So thanks for that, Watson, you horrible creep
One thing that makes it worse is that it makes guaranteed money harder to come by for every other player.
Watson’s falloff might be the sharpest skill decline I’ve ever seen
Guaranteed money 🤑. He don't care. Best agent ever!
Le'veon Bell has to be up there also. He also sat a year off and went to another team.
@@resistance_2025That’s up there but usually RBs decline quickly quite often. Whereas rarely do you see a arguably top 5 QB fall off to literally worse than a back-up QB within a couple seasons.
@@Alexnader8788 Daunte Culpepper was having a horrendous year after playing great then got injured. Never came close to his previous numbers.
@@resistance_2025 I’m pretty sure that was in a short span though prior to his injury unlike Watson
The craziest thing about this is that Deshaun Watson is STILL ranked #6 in highest career passer rating in NFL HISTORY. That's after he's dropped slightly the past couple of years. Supposedly the Texans implemented an offense similar to Watson's college offense and Stefanski refused to do the same, with all the injuries and suspensions, I guess he just never got the chance to learn a pro style offense. Honestly one of the craziest career arcs in nfl history. This year is just so full of examples reminding us that QB's are HIGHLY dependent on their surroundings. You cannot take a qb out of one situation, put him in another, and expect the same results. The NFL also needs to go back to the days of sitting their rookie qb's for a year or two instead of throwing them into the fire immediately. Yeah SOME rookies keep up but most don't and then they get shat on for sucking when a lot of them simply need more development. Go back and look at Josh Allen's or Lamar Jackson's rookie years vs. later years. These are two of the most talented QB's in the league and they were mediocre as rookies.
What makes this even funnier is they just beat the ravens with Jaemis Winston lol
Absolutely ended his career, not just his time with the Browns.
He’s not good enough to be a starter, is injury prone, doesn’t have the experience to be a viable backup and no team wants the baggage he brings.
I doubt he wants to play football again anyway. Just take his $240m and go grope masseuses some more.
Deshaun is the new diddy it doesnt matter men women he’s thirsty for a massage. He goin get u
Don’t diddle me Diddy!
@@TylerG69 diddy had over 1200, yes that is a 12 with 2 0s, 1200, men, women, girls and boys, including a 9 year old, come forward, deshaun has 20, not good but nowhere in the same ball park
Deshaun Diddy combs
@@burns4246Facts not even the same stratosphere. Deshaun a horrible person for sure, but he's not been running a decades long sexual deviancy, blackmail and pedo ring, with possible other activities like murder and shit like the attempted car bombing on Kid Cudi. Deshaun should be in jail, but Diddy should be in the ground.
Thanks!
No player deserves to fail as much as Deshaun Watson. It's truly wonderful to see
Couldnt happen to a nicer guy.
17:07 Come on Perna, “It’s Joever” was right there
The problem is guaranteed contracts. Stop guaranteeing millions to these players and let them perform to earn their keep. 50M guaranteed is still a truckload of money!
But but but these are essential people to society. Screw firemen, nurses, electricians. We need people who can do good things with a ball in a rigged gambling sport with an injury report
Which sport is the worst for locking teams into bad contracts they regret later? Basketball?
Justice for Baker, disgraceful how they did him & Has-Bum enjoy the team.
Old guy here. This is so weird. He had a fantastic college career, and was really good in Houston. Then his off field problems surfaced and that seemed to drain his will to play with any positivity.
I just wonder, how the Sam Hill did he get that HUGE contract with all that guaranteed money?? Somebody make it make sense.
that the kicker for me. the guy had off field issue before the contract so why the brown slip in a let bail clause a lot sooner. 2 to 3 years to prove himself with an extension if he manage to showcase his talent if he did well. that contract had too many years on a qb that could end up in jail at any point during his stay. such a bad contract that it has at least 2 more years before the brown can wash their hands
Deshaun Watson was never the same after the Chiefs comeback playoff win in the 2019 season.
In a parallel universe, the Browns keep their incumbent QB and don't squander three 1sts to get a QB with character issues.
You can actually view this parallel universe ... it's the movie "Draft Day". (And yes, they did make that trade in the beginning ... but by the end, they fixed all their mistakes.)
Deshaun Watson treats Browns fans like they’re vulnerable massage therapists from Instagram
Do the browns also peg him and cradle him too 🤔
Here's an idea for Perna to look into: play of players after sitting a year off while healthy.
Could include an attempted Bronco and Lion: Maurice Clarett and Mike Williams.
Le'veon Bell. All-Galaxy behind the Steelers OL at the time. Sits out 2018 after being tagged, ends up playing for NYJ and his performance goes down like the Bismarck. I feel this is more a product of the Jets and Steelers OL being worlds apart in quality at the time rather than Bell's skill level plummeting, but it is a complex question to answer
Watson is a horrible QB and an even worse human being. Texans GM is a genius for that trade.
here before people start defending him. I'm just not sure if he's a worse person or QB
Nobody's going to defend him
@@resistance_2025they already have
@@sighliyah I don't see any in the comments. If someone tried, they would get jumped on. His play has been terrible on top of being a horrible person, nobody is going to attempt to defend that.
look up Jamies Winston's "accusations" from college, also his "allegation" in an Uber car
@@resistance_2025 you might not see any on this specific video (yet) but he’s been getting defended on various other platforms since the allegations and this most recent injury. it’s pretty gross.
So glad he’s out of Houston, thanks Cleveland 😊
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Who is here after Winston lit up the Ravens? Clearly there was only one problem on the Browns
As a browns fan, i hated this trade. Imagine if we had Baker with this roster last year or this year. They could've gone at least a game into the playoffs last year. But i also hate that other teams are just forgotten on who was willing to pay this ransom
you forgot to mention in the deep dive that in houston they had to run the clemson offense because it was the only one that worked, you can see when he moves to a different offense he just sucks.
In Watsons defense. A good coach should always play to the strengths of his players. If he understands Clemsona offense. Use that and build variation.
Not a Watson defender though. Don’t SA women.
@doctorbashir3497 you really didnt need the edit for that last bit.
Or at least, for people with brains. I see why you did it.
@@TeemoQuinton Discourse in 2024. It requires stance definition unfortunately. But you clearly get it
Kind of ironic how Watson's injury could have been prevented by having real massages.
Perna's video production rate has been great i love it
Should have kept Baker and lots of us said it at the time.
He was a gamer. Won CLE its first playoff game in the "new Browns" era.
OBJ said Baker had a such a strong arm catchin' his passes hurt.
I love seeing Baker succeed.
This trade makes Russell Wilson to the Broncos seem like a genius move!
I understand not praising someone having a major injury. It’s easy to say “think of how he feels with such an injury.” But then again; let’s think about the massage therapists and how they feel. This is easily the best thing to happen to the browns this year. Karma is crazy.
Remember when the Browns traded for OBJ and they thought they were winning a SB. What a mess they’ve made lol
The Browns beat the Ravens today. It’s very possible that the Browns wasted this entire season by starting Deshaun Watson instead of just going with a backup the whole time. This is not the first time this has happened as Joe Flacco led them to the playoffs last season and they still traded him so they could start Watson this season. What’s even funnier is they very well might do it again. The Browns have what it takes to be a potential contender and the team ownership/Deshaun continue to squander that opportunity.
1:35 Carson Wentz enters the chat
Scarily similar
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I feel so so bad for Wentz but I gotta say. I like Hurts more. But i wouldn’t mind if he had stayed the eagles backup. He would be a solid backup and at least he could have a stable finish to his career
@@iswiftyfox8997 Now we got to watch him run that ridiculous triple option play with the Chiefs. Don't be surprised if you see more of him especially with how bad that offense looks and Mahomes playing poorly this year. Any Reid is ready to just go crazy.
Watson was dramatically worse, which is nuts to think about.
I remember last year when a Browns fan on here tried comparing Joe Flacco to Kenny Pickett. It was like he magically forgot Deshaun existed.
"Let's go... Normal That's Good Sports into Deshawn Watson"😂😂
I think the only way the brownies can recover from this in any kind of reduced time frame would be to trade the best players away to improve their draft. Fire sell. Letting Cooper go should just be the start. That is sad. But rookie contracts can help their cap space. They could also develop these rookies into a team. ( the lions did it in 3 yrs.) I hate to see this for the browns. Their luck runs as poorly as the lion's used to. The lion's rebuild had a committed structure from the owner, front office, GM and Coach. All on the same page.
Cleveland is getting ready to kick the Browns out
My take: Watson, now that he has a fully guaranteed contract, saw no reason to improve his craft.
I done did got $250 Million in the bank......screw football.
Probably the truth: already known as a creep, has crazy wealth guaranteed, why bother.
Yuuup.
His performance makes Nathan Peterman look like a passable QB.
and I'm sure Nathan is a more than passable human being, which we can't say about Groper Cleveland.
I grew up around Detroit and moved to Cleveland about 8 years ago. Needles to say I’ve seen 40+ years of bad football up close. Seeing the Lions finally start to turn their franchise around really shows the ineptitude of The Browns.
8:09 don't forget that the league made his suspension arbitrarily 11 games so he could make his return against... the texans lmao. Who cares about a fair punishment, gotta sell the revenge game lmao
It's not often I'd cheer a player getting hurt. This would be one of those times if I was at that game.
Yeah not retaining Joe Flacco was stupid.
I using root for underdog teams, but after they keep making terrible decision like its a competition and they did so many players dirty, i became a hater. I remember some random clip where they said they didnt need odell only for odell to get a ring at the rams. Dallas, kc (they have so many toxic people associated with them), and the browns are the teams i always cheer for the other team. I eased up a bit for kc. Kermit is pretty cool.
They ran Baker out of town and Baker ended up playing better.
They ran Flacco out of town and he ends up playing better.
Only the Browns...
As a 50 year Browns fan I am amazed at how schiddy we are knowing full well we can get even shiddier!
And they want 2 Billion from the taxpayers for a new stadium outside of Cleveland. 😢
I think Stefanski was being forced to start him. So he's probably getting fired after this year.
Haslam actually had something special here and his meddling has blown it up so badly that a huge chunk of what was an unshakably loyal fanbase is so done that we don't care if they move the team out of Cleveland again.
I'm a Bucs fan until he either dies or sells the team. He's the new Dan Snyder. Fuck Haslam.
They will leave at midnight like thieves just like the team that went to Baltimore
Why not become a Lions fan? We're both perpetually miserable fanbases from a Great Lake state.
@BiggieTrismegistus I picked the Bucs out of spite.
But I've been a Lions fan since they hired Dan Campbell. They're just a fun team to watch.
@@cinimatics This Lions team is almost as fun as the 1985 Bears squad. They just don’t have Walter Payton
4:36 God, remember when Osweiler's $16M AAV contract was discussed as a critical mistake? An albatross that would set the Texans back years, and Houston had to trade away a 2nd round pick alongside him just to get rid of it? Now Trevor Lawrence gets paid $55M AAV to be mediocre and nobody even cares. It's crazy how much the financial side has changed in the last 10 years.
Because the rich have gotten far richer since obama decided to print Infinity money to save the housing crash and banking crash in 2010. Now we didn't see inflation because most of that liquidity ( money) was just sent to the rich. Keeping the debt bubble growing and having money flow between the rich is how the system works, they screwed up sending us money during covid.
Perna, the Watson trade and contract was great! It distracts from the terrible Russel Wilson trade and contract!
Russell Wilson .... going to the SB
Bryce Young, Russell Wilson and Trey Lance are not quite as bad as the Desean Watson trade. But they are all up there. At least the Niners bumbled their way into Brock Purdy.
It’s like the guy needs a way to release all of the pressure on him. So much pressure.
Honestly, it reminds me of tiger woods fall off after he got busted having tons of sex
All of his fundamentals just look trash, from his drop back to his release. That big guaranteed money kind of stole.his incentive to try hard
Between this and the Russell Wilson trade. Teams will have learned their lesson. Buying franchise QB's with a ton of draft capital is no guarantee of success.
I just don’t think this situation was completely unknown. Like, predator behavior escalates over time. Watson had to be doing some shenanigans in Clemson. It just makes sense. Maybe not to the same severity as we have heard recently, but he was probably building up to what we know now.
Well, the Texans had to settle out of court with 30 women for enabling it.
If anybody has learned anything, a fully guaranteed contract sets an incredibly dangerous precedent. It happened, and the worst-case scenario happened. I don’t think we’ll see a fully guaranteed contract like this for a very, very long time
Like next year.
4:11 not to mention the NON-CALLED pick play to get Renfrow open. Not still bitter at all...
Hey man, I've been watching for a couple years and I just want to say it looks like your having the most amount of fun this year and it's great to watch. Keep it up, I'm not gonna subscribe tho
Haslam is somehow an even dumber egomaniac than even Jerruh. Ohio better not give him a dime of tax money for his stadium scheme.
He was given the ultimate punishment by the NFL, the RG3 treatment.
10:10 had me dying 😂
And the Rub-n-Tug-less Browns just beat the freakin' Ravens. Wow!
12:03 ouch 🤕