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"The Flinstones is not a f***ing documentary"
Can't stop laughing!! 🤣🤣🤣
2 years later and it's still funny AF! 🤣🤣🤣
"Unfortunately, Daniel is no longer with us." LOL
Yeah, he is brain dead🙃🙃
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That's because he was hit with reality and science. No contest.
That was the smoothest, most low-key hang-up you'll ever see in 3 lifetimes.
Or did the caller hang up himself ? For me it wasn’t clear
@@artje123 You can see Matt pressing one of the buttons, and we don't hear from the caller after that.
That's an appropriate reaction when dealing with someone who actually believes dinosaurs and humans lived together.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
For real 😂 i didn’t know what the fuck happened
@@artje123 3:11
Daniel is referencing the work of Mary Schweitzer, a paleontologist who found evidence of collagen, in tyrannosaurus rex fossils, from which short sequences of DNA could be extracted. This doesn't mean that dinosaurs lived only a few thousand years ago, but that there are processes during fossilisation that had not been previously understood, in particular, the effects of iron particles in the preservation of some soft tissues. Mary Schweitzer, herself, has been very vocal about the misuse of her results by creationists.
Dinosaurs existed but they perished in the flood....5-9 thousand years ago, the Flintstones is not a fucking documentary 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
And the OP is still overstating what was found in those fossils. Mary Schweitzer would disagree with what the creationist would use as “evidence”.
it was a 60-70million years
If true soft issue could survive 5,000 years then there is nothing indicating it couldn't last 10,00 or 100,000 or 1,000,000 or 10,000,000. Creationists found a weak argument in this soft tissue finding.
@@leonarddiiorio4337That is not necessarily true. It's the equivalent of saying that if a person can live for one minute then there's no reason a person can't live for fifty trillion years. There is a limit to how long the structural integrity of a compound can be preserved. Precisely how long that is for each compound is dependent on many factors.
my favorite moment... "we have trees that are 9,000 years old, how long ago was your flood"? "9,000 years ago".......
Prove the trees are that old
@@andrejones2147 why do I get the feeling that scientific evidence just wont satisfy you......
DrPommels that’s not true actually.... here’s my point with this and this is why I get frustrated. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs... cool... my problem comes in when we use different measures for determining what proof truly is and what it isn’t...it seems like when it comes to the Bible or any belief in any higher power, those who don’t believe become extremely skeptical... and that’s fine as well.... no one should believe just anything they hear... of course not.... but it never seems like, for example, those who trust in science as a whole, use that same skepticism to confirm or disprove what they believe...... with that being said.... are there scientists out there who can say this is how we date trees... these are the mechanisms we use and this is how we come up with that age...sure there are... but still how would you be able to prove that the mechanisms that are being used are correct? How would you know he isn’t misinterpreting his own information? Do you know how many contradictions happen amongst the scientific community.... do you realize how unreliable it actually is that scientific findings and discoveries are subject to change ? Facts are bro everyone exhibits faith... FACT!!!!!!! What can you prove for yourself scientifically? What do you do when your favorite scientist says one thing and then for example, Neil degrade Tyson says something completely different? How do you determine truth then ? I can go on.... your response will let me kno how serious you are tho.
andre jones that’s a weak argument that my religious friend uses all the time. The difference between science and religion is there isn’t any proof of ANYTHING in the Bible, it’s all regurgitated stories that have been passed down for years. With science everything is always evolving so we may believe something to be true today until new evidence shows us that it’s wrong 50 years later. The difference is these are actual things that are being studied and documented. Of course every scientist isn’t gonna agree, every scientist will have their own theories, but at least those theories have been studied and they have evidence to support those theories. That’s the part you religious people always leave out when you make that argument. Science is not faith because they have evidence to back up their claims and not just stories we should believe because they told them to us..
I was waiting for him to say "9,001 years ago" haha
Watching decades-worth of theists calling into the show...I now have ZERO desire to go to heaven.
...having these nutty callers as neighbors in heaven for eternity is an eternal nightmare.
Mark Twain said this: Heaven for climate, Hell for company.
I know exactly how you feel. Me too.
One of his best: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him will believeth in anything. - Hitchens 3:16”
Yet again Hitch, who I actually admired and miss, shows his total misunderstanding of Christianity and what Christians believe, and don’t believe.
@@Simonet1309 Well a CHRISTian that doesn't believe in CHRIST probably isn't a christian.
@@Simonet1309 amazing that someone could accuse Hitchens of not understanding christianity. Them man had an incredible understanding of it and christians. How can you claim to admire him when you are clueless about him
It seems to be a recurring theme with these guys. Just spout any old crap that you just thought up and nobody will challenge it.
Hitch again. Sorely missed.
"I dont give a shit about what you believe" Its my favourite Dillahunty phrase...i love it.
I have to go with, "No, No, No, No, No, No, Fucking No!"
Steve that's what I was going to say..my fav. Quote from Matt...no no no no no no no !!!!
I know when I am in a text discussion with a theist on the Net and there is a response to a point I had made, before I begin reading I think to myself: prepare yourself Shawn, you are probably going to read something dumb. Most of the time it is. Anyway, I think that, in reality, Matt does give a shit about what the caller believes. Otherwise there would be no reason to have a conversation.
Chicago Shawn his usual point is that he doesn’t care what the caller believes, he cares WHY they believe.
Except the day will come when you stand before Jeaus and give account
"the great flood included dinosaurs, meteorites, lasers and Yoda!"
I buckled over laughing when Matt said "The Flintstones is not a f#@king documentary."
I love how he said the flood happened 9000 years ago AFTER he was told the oldest living tree was 9000 years old. Had he said 10000, he would have claimed it happened 10000 years ago.
*I WOULD watch this show more often but, 99% of the callers get on my nerves with their stupidity.*
thank you. Bitch
Matt and others putting them where they belong is a great appeal of the show.
melba sakowski But it it is the stupidity of the believers which is the funny stuff. Collectively, theists are a comedy show. I come here for the laughs. Maybe, one day, one of them might have a rational argument to make, but until that happens I’ll just enjoy them as comedians.
@@j.rreinking9037 the fuck is wrong with u
That's what it's about!
Daniel is a prime example of how people can cast aside simple logic to fit their own narrative of how things work. I do not know why religious people call this show to get embarrassed but I love it, Im addicted to these .
@@richardgay7990 Of course, a pastor. You serious though?
Ouch.
@@danieljoseph6404 The flood included "the collision of galaxies?" I promise if I told someone else I heard that today they'd be saying "what type of shit do you watch youtube!?"
@Brother Sanguinary But the moon IS made of green cheese. Haven't you read the Gospel according to Hank? I kiss his Ass regularly and I KNOW I'm going to win the Euro Million jackpot tonight! If I don't though I know Hank moves in mysterious ways.
@Pastor Pickle-Toucher
Your opinions are not "truths."
Milky way collided with a satellite? That's when my patience ran out and about the same time for matt.
Sukhbir Sekhon I think he meant satellite galaxies which the Milky Way does have (Large and Small Magellanic Clouds for example) but even still he sounds crazy.
Really? How bout when he mentioned plate tectonics BEFORE the milky way collision? Something that had required millions upon millions of years to occur they way it did. That's when my eye brow pretty much launched off my face 🤨🤨🤨 The milky way collision was just gravy at that point.
No offense this comment make you kinda dull aswell lol
@@JoBo0209 You are correct. However, as bad as that sounds, space is really huge and most space faring stellar objects are very unlikely to crash into other steller objects. It kind of like the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, most asteroids in the belt are over 1 million miles from each other, so you would be extremely hard pressed to see a collision of or even another asteroid if you were in the belt . So the two galaxies collide and all that will really happen is most the stars in both galaxies end up forming a larger galaxy.
Riftsrunner _ I know that. I was just pointing out what he meant by satellite. Doesn’t make what he said any more intelligible obviously.
Whenever someone comes on and says "I'm here to argue with you guys and I've got science," is my favourite type of caller.
I love how Tracie jumps to the chase on these types. Just assume the caller is right and ask them how that gets to god. Rarely has anyone thought this far ahead
Tonya Ratlaff
"Matt had a fight with one caller, matt stated pedophiles are morally Superior to non pedophiles. "
Lying for Jesus. Keep it up . Maybe some day you will be the leader of a congregacion and live of the work of your sheep. If you´re not already.
@@tonyaratlaff7990 Hey, you ran away from Anita after you couldn't prove your imaginary sky daddy lol
Tonya Ratlaff Another delusional fool.
Go take your meds and put on your tinfoil hat.
@@tonyaratlaff7990 "you don't have to prove Noah's ark to prove god more likely" (not ad verbatim, I am on the phone): no, you are right, you need to prove the existence of god, in order to prove that god exists. The noah argument is brought on simply by a) many Christian apologists, b) the bible c) old testament, d) by believers claiming it is proof for the existence of god. No atheist ever addressed it as starting point to disprove anything, and certainly not Matt. You are very intellectually dishonest, and you just proved it with one, mean comment. What a shame...
The culture of Australia’s First Nation’s people’s stretches back, unbroken, 60,000 years. How come they’ve never heard of the Great Flood?
Maybe good swimmers?
@Atheistme Australia floats 😂
They were all watching the footy.
My Mormon Aunt insists that she traced her ancestry to Adam and Eve. I asked about the flood and Noah. She brushed it off.
Tell her thank she's inbred. If she looks at you funny ask her how can two people create millions of not by having sex with their offspring and their offsprings offspring with their parents, sisters cousins and so one. Watch her crumble.
An island in Hawaii had rain for over 200 days straight. It's still there and so are the people that was living there at the time. Plants and animals also.
How did dinosaurs die in the flood when Ken Ham said they were on the ark. No two apologists agree. About anything!
IT was a huge string of non sequiturs. A global flood is not found by dino tissue (it was not soft tissue), a global flood is not found by collisions with meteors or dwarf galaxies, a global flood is not found with trees having a maximum age.
Yeah he tries to prove a global flood by claiming that the ark landed somewhere, and then when asked to prove there was an ark he says he's trying to prove a global flood. So apparently his "proof" for a flood can be something which he doesn't have to substantiate.
Marsupials get me.
After the ark landed, they all had to make their way BACK to Australia without getting lost. Including the non-swimmers.
Socks With Sandals shhh. Stop it. You’re making too much sense. Lol
And all that manna from heaven waiting to be found among the rotting corpses.
Still, it was nice of Noah to save all the mosquitoes, wasps, etc., in order that future generations of man could enjoy God's less-pleasant creations. Created during His "angry" phase, I guess. Anyway, Cheers Noah! 'Preciate it.
Ecuadorian tree sloths are slow, but they are excellent swimmers and can hold their breath for up to 40 minutes. Surely, a pair of them could swim the Black and Mediterranean seas and the Atlantic Ocean without getting separated and then live happily ever after resuming their lazy lifestyle?
Maybe Noah dropped them off on the way by Australia.
He was trying to bring up Mary Schweitzer, but he knows as much about what she found as his failure at knowing her name or how to pronounce it.
I believe the Noah's Ark fable really happened because I know nothing about building wooden vessels that require bilge pumps to stay afloat.
I know nothing about feeding, watering and cleaning up the waste products of 3,000 animals,
I know nothing about protecting thousand of plants and insects from dying aboard a leaking wooden vessel on a turbulent ocean for a year.
I know nothing about refrigeration, sanitation, air conditioning, methane gas, black mold, and seasick animals which modern ocean going vessels have to deal with.
I believe the Noah's Ark fable is true because I do not know how the world that I live in, actually works.
Instead, I believe in Yahweh, the Hebrew god I read about in an ancient book, who can do anything, and who cannot make a mistake.
Praise the Hebrew god Yahweh and his Jewish son, Yeshua.
but if you have almighty god to explain everything you don't need to explain anything. just say god stopped the animals eating and pooping and everything else that would have had to occur to make the story possible. I don't know why they even try to use science, they clearly don't know what it is.
The strength of the sarcasm is strong with this comment. I was with you, then I wasn't, then I was, and now I'm not sure. So...
YOU I like.
He’s right about finding the tissue, but it doesn’t point to a young earth. It challenges our understanding about how long and under what conditions the proteins and tissue can be preserved. The fossil is still more than 65 million years old.
Did he say flooding created asteroids ?
Yes he did!
d rouse yes, but you can now get a cream for them.
@@neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819 LMAO!!
I thought it was haemorrhoids 😂
And a bet the flood made ice cream too.
Poor guy. The brainwashing is so strong with some people. At least he’s calling people who will challenge his beliefs.
The flood fable is true only if Yahweh is not all powerful and is prone to making mistakes just like the fiction writers that invented him.
I feel also feel sorry for them. Even the most brainwashed Catholics I have met do not give a single crap about the fact whether the flood was real and here we have idiots that still try to prove even the most ridiculous claims in the magic book.
@@JamesRichardWiley Exactly if I was all powerful being I would probably make a virus that only kills humans and provide Noah and his incest family with an antidote but yeah they did not know about the germs so...
Yea, he never should have stepped in the ring . He got his head bashed in by Matt the inslavor. He takes no prisoners.
I thought it is held that the Earth is only 6,000 years old? How could the flood have occurred 9-10,000 years ago?
The oldest tree in the world is over 9k years old. It's called Old Tjikko and it's in Sweden.
JR, the Pando Tree is the oldest living organism on record, 80,000 years old!
@@norswil8763 Old Tjikko is 9550 years old, but that's the root system, not the tree itself. This is known as a clonal. Other root clonals, as mentioned above, are very old like the 80,000 (yes eighty thousand) year old Pando and the 11,700 King Clone in the Mojave Desert.
But, to be realistic, they are clones so it's difficult to state they are truly that old. One would have to accept that the start of one clone tree at the end of the life of it's predecessor is a continuation of the original. I'm not accepting that logic. In the same way the a cancer cell is immortal because it can replicate forever doesn't mean the original cells live forever. Therefore, the true oldest living thing is the Bristlecone Pine at 4,851 years old.
Kirk Ryan, id like to see your criteria for 'living organism' because clone, replicating or not I think it surely qualifies.
All living organisms clone and replicate to a degree, our cells are continuously replicating, we are a totally new organism every 7 to 10 years - just a shame our over all life span is short.
@@norswil8763 old people are just a bad copy of themselves :)
@@snapperjessen bad? Nah, just nearing their expiry date
How is the US so advanced yet so backwards?
Smart rich people.
America was initially “colonised” by religious nutters who were too religious for their own countries a few hundred years ago. And those countries were pretty religious
@@maxine2798 yeah but you'd think with all the changes, technology, science since then would move this country in a different direction.
I think too many people here lack critical thinking which is why it's like this.
Religion and so called " conservatives"
Because the people rely on that advancement, and not on their own abilities.
Keep the videos coming Matt, we love you!
"God magic'd it to happen" . . . HAHAHAHA. Another Cheerio in my mouth just came out my nose.
Evolutionists have proof without certainty. Creationists have certainty without proof.
proof is mathematical. We have evidence instead.
@@wocxdid8068 Except it's not necessarily. Proof and evidence are also used interchangeably.
evidence or argument establishing a fact or the truth of a statement.
"you will be asked to give proof of your identity"
@@Elintasokas It's like theory as used commonly, and theory when used by scientists. Proof in science is only mathematical. But commonly, can be interchanged with proof I think. :)
I hate to agree with Christians, but you just used an absolute.
Science has Theory, conjecture and acceptable logic, not proof.
The minute you claim to have solved the puzzle, you become as ignorant as any church
@@elberno4243 Theotry :v. Yus, I saw that and won't let you forget about it XD
I love you guys. "Flintstones is not a fucking documentary" ... LOL ... exactly. There is hope for a rational, logical, scientific approach as long as you guys are around. Keep up the good work. You describe yourselves as not astrophysicists but as an astrophysicist myself you guys are incredibily knowledgable!
And Fred Flintstone said, " Yabba Dabba Doo!"
Pando is estimated to be around 80,000-1,000,000 years old, so, R.I.P. flood
The fossil he is talking about btw is 68 million years old.
Sixty-eight million years, nine thousand years - they're almost the same thing.
DarkPhoenix Are you referring to the tiktaalik that Matt mentioned (6:40)? That's actually 375 million years old.
No one could possibly date anything to 68 million years ago. That is all made up bullshit.We can't even determine the time of death in people who died less than 7 days ago!
@@phatyakdiesel Maybe you can't but forensics consists of a lot more than just taking a glance and throwing some dice.
@@toastcrunch9387 taking a glance and throwing some dice?! where did that come from?
Her name is Dr. Mary Schweitzer. That felt very "Fight Club" when I wrote it.
Yeah and dinosaur fossil she had was dated back to 68 million years ago, not a couple of thousand like the caller says
Pando, the 47,000-tree clonal colony of male* quaking aspen (Populus tremuloides) in Utah is thought to be one of the world's oldest living organisms-the root system of Pando is an estimated 80,000 years old.
I always get a kick out of these flood people. I always ask about the journey and the aftermath of the story. How did eight people take care of 1000's of animals? What did the animals eat? What happened to all the poop? How did the earth get repopulated from one family? Where did the water come from? What happened to all the water?
The usual answer is just god magic.
Gutsick Gibbon, Aron Ra, and many others have opened my eyes as to how impossible the flood was. I'm very thankful.
Did the 2 Pinquins swim to and then waddle up Mt. Arrarat?
The answer I used to get from Jehovah's Witnesses is, "All things all possible with God."
@@Martin-sp4zf And two kangaroos hopped all the way from Australia.
One of my favorites is did the ark have aquariums because the change in water temperature pressure and salt levels would kill basically every aquatic creature so did the ark have whales in it
"I can make up all that stuff up, therefore scientists do as well"
No joke, I've always loved video games (especially strategy), and when I was a little kid and indoctrinated to believe young earth creationism, sometimes I would imagine inventing an RTS game where you take control of cavemen tribes and can train/breed different dinosaurs and your units ride them into battle, or have to fight them.
I still think it seems like an awesome game. Lol
Total war Warhammer, lizardmen.
Old Tjikko, a spruce in Sweden is 9550 years old
Jurupa Oak, in Crestmore Heights, Ca is 13000+ years old
Pando, a Quaking Aspen colonial grove is 80,000 years old
*Believes the flood killed the dinosaurs* (9000 years ago)
*Also believes dinosaur fossils are a couple of thousand to 5000 y/o*
Did this guy think before making this call?
But he also said the Flood 5000 years ago started Plate Tectonics- which actually began more than a billion years ago.
Most theists don't. Thinking was never an option to them.
anti-anti-intellectual x none of them think full stop
He did SOMETHING before he called.
NO !..... Never thought at all ...................
Captain's Log Day 375: Roasted Unicorn is delicious!!!
Side order of tribble.......
You want to know how the universe came into being ?
Get ready for 10 lessons that completely explain how this happened.
Lesson one is about quantum mechanics.
When you fully understand quantum mechanics, come back for lesson two.
I’ve studied geology, and my dad is a PhD in geology. I’ll bet this guy hasn’t taken a science course he wasn’t forced to.
That’s obvious, but guys like him would say that you’re too “biased” because you didn’t obey the biblical narrative. Or that everything you and your dad knows is a lie. Or that your dad lied about having a PHD, and was indoctrinated by “the government”.
Religion isn’t about being truthful or studying the world around us, or making discoveries. It’s about obedience to the Bible. That’s why there’s no “Creation” or “Noah’s Ark” research facility. The people who believe in those things don’t haven’t done any research, they just believe what the Bible says, and that’s part of it.
What this guy, and every creationist or biblical literalist, does is just say “modern science proves flood mechanics” because his faith isn’t enough, it has to be real. What they won’t do is cite a source, give a demonstration, or even attempt because they don’t fare if it’s true, they’ve just been told to repeat.
Oddly enough when asked specific questions about “creation” the most common reply is “You just believe everything your told” as they’re telling me to believe everything.
@@mistersippi2945 Fair points. When they start their position with a conspiracy theory about everyone who knows the truth is lying to you, they've already lost. Just like moon landing deniers. The instant they invoke a conspiracy undertaken by countries and space agencies that may in fact be in competition/conflict with, with different agendas, their position is exposed as untenable.
It's a con game.
2:58 did this dude just say he believes the flood created plate tectonics among other nonsense things? seriously?
The "waters of the deep" must have cracked the crust.
doesn't explain why we find evidence of rock forming for millions of years on fault lines that are separating.
That's what I heard.
These squish-heads think that Pangea was the first super continent that broke up. But of course it was only the most recent.
And then there is the sad fact that if Pangea broke up just 9K years ago, and the continents plowed their way to their present positions in the short time before recorded history began, the energy released by that process would have melted the crust of the planet, wiping out all life.
chris Whitehouse
well if you cover the planet with water to cool down the crust and keep some animal alive in a boat on top of the water it may just work...
I'm only playing devil's advocate here.
Wish Matt hadn't ended Daniel's call. I wanted to see how far Daniel's apologetics would've taken him. 😂🤣😂🤣
It would have taken him right off the edge of his flat earth. 🤣🤣🤣
@@TruthSika Wait, if the Earth actually were flat, wouldn't the flood waters pour over the edges? Oh, I suppose the giant ice walls would keep it in, eh?
You killed me with The Flintstones is not a documentary that was priceless. Hitchens would love that line
... Last time I checked, the oldest tree alive is the bristle cone tree. Look it up.
Pity Daniel didn't phone in while Aron Ra was there...
No I’m pretty sure there are trees that are older than 4.5k years old.
Meme Person yeah there was something called the panda trees that were like 85k years old as well
King Creosote in the Mojave Desert 11,700 years old
Pando in Utah King Aspen Colony 80,000 years old
Bristlecone pine NOT Methusela (4848) found in 2012 5,200 years plus
Try the Wollemi pine in Australia.
It clones itself.
A little bit older than 11 thousand years as a species.
Not an individual
Wait a minute, it so happened 9k yrs old , isnt most creationists saying that the earth is only 6k yrs old wtf
It has to do with different proposed creationist chronologies, all of which vary and all so happen to be bullshit.
I don't believe anything the bible authors wrote on their ancient scrolls.
Problem solved.
Yeah we as people created god not other way around and for religion and we only created it cause no one at that time couldnt find out how everything was actually created so fck it lets make up a god to have created everything, since we dont know how it was actually done
Yeah but he only said 9k because he accepted that there was a 9k tree and needed to weave that into his fabrication.
@MusicMadMaurice If you had watched to the end, you'd have heard Denis correct himself a second time, and point out that there is an aspen tree that is 80,000 years old. Better alert Hovind et al.
These crazy callers are the best
A Cristian church advertisement played after this video. TH-cam algorithm is kaput.
The Christian organisation may have paid for 'specifically' putting the advert after the Athiest Experience, as to try and counter their non-belief claims...
The Chinese have a very long written history and I find it strange that they didn't notice that all of them had drowned in this flood. I guess they were too busy inventing gunpowder
Don't the Australian aborigines date back to about 50000 yrs ago did they just float about lol
@DAVID FILER 😄yes
The answer's obvious: God cast a spell of aridness over Australia, which repelled the flood. This also explains why most of Australia remains a dustbowl today.
Wow, this theist-style thinking is fun! Why bother with verifiable evidence when you can explain literally anything with Just So Stories and a sprinkle of magic? :)
@@blatherskite3009 😄
@DAVID FILER 😄
I have heard 80,000 years ago for the aborigines.
I had a dream that I died, and when I got to the pearly gates Matt jumped out from behind God and said “GOTCHA BITCH!” in Dave Chappelle’s voice, before sending me to Hell. Lol
Lol
"The collision of the milky way galaxy and one of it's neighbours"
What???? Does he think the Milky way is a solid object?
The actual quote was " The collision of the Milky Way and one of its satellites ". Galaxies collide with each other all the time, the Milky Way is going to collide with Andromeda in the distant future.
@@DonJuan-lg8vk apologies for the misquote. Again though, 2 galaxies "crashing" into each other.... so what? Unless we are unfortunate enough to be within in the firing line of anything with any substantial mass, it'll have bugger all influence on us. As I say, Galaxies are not solid objects.. they're gigantic clouds of stars, planets etc with light years distance between solar systems. It'll be like watching two clouds crash into each other and wondering about the consequences on individual water molecules.
@@jabbawaffle6346 Its hard to say what effect it will have on earth, but some stars and planets will be destroyed , since its million of years in the future , I don't think we have much too worry about.
He really had no clue what he was talking about.
Goddamn, and I thought I was delusion back in my theist days.
Where did the water come from, where did it go? That should be the immediate question the callers should answer before even continuing.
Stop reading ancient plagiarized fairy tales and try studying the water cycle.
Or the "fountains of the deep" and "windows of heaven" is the answer for the Christian.
@@JamesRichardWiley ... they can come up with what ever explanation they want. They have to prove it at some point though.
@@jimscobie6646 I don't know why they try to explain where the water came from or where it went, just say "god made it come and go". Why do they continue to try using science to prove anything, when they can't do science?
Oh oh, I have a fun answer for this from the BS doctrine I grew up with. So, in the days of creation as explained in Genesis, on the second day when God created the air, it says he separated the waters. I was told this meant that during creation, there was an extra layer of water in our atmosphere. This was also supposed to explain why the world was perfect for Adam and Eve. Because this extra hydrosphere supposedly created a world with a perfect tropical climate (once again BS). Also, there was less ocean and the land was more like a Pangea situation.
Then, the floor happened. All that water came from the hydrosphere and essentially created the ocean we know today and separated the continents. Also, this all of course explains why we now have storms, destructive weather patterns, and frozen and arid regions not suitable for humans. Fun right!?
Oh and another fun bit of bollocks I was taught as a child was that dinosaurs weren’t saved in the flood because they were genetic experiments by the “wicked” men of the world and thus perversions of God’s creation.
So yeh, and I used to think my religion was so smart and academic because of these kinds of answers and prove assumptions that are just accepted from an ancient book of myths and stories.
I was devastated when i learned humans and dinos never lived together. Was one of the biggest shocks to my 8th year on earth.
Cassowary, most of them turned into birds but with the cassowary you can clearly see their raptor roots.
1 kick from that murder bird and your belly is sliced open
Oh, this poor man.
I've yet to meet a layman who disputes Evolution because he's impartial and weighed the evidence. To a man, everyone I've encountered who does so, does because he's wedded to a literal interpretation of a Bronze Age Creation myth that he's decided is revealed truth.
Worlds oldest tree is the 9550 years old "Old Tjikko" in northern Sweden.
“The Flintstones is not a fucking documentary” 😂😂😂. Best line ever
The worlds oldest tree found in Sweden,Dalarna. Old Tjikko. 9500years old
Clonal tree eg Pando 80,000 -1,000,000 years, Quaking aspen in Fishlake National Forest, Utah. There are more as well
@David Anewman Did that fact trigger you?
@David Anewman No clonal tree colonies are a thing. Feel free to look it up. I understand it is hard when you have facts that disagree with your world view. It happens. I fought hard against leaving the faith at first. I bent myself in illogical pretzels. Once I decided to look for the truth and stop trusting faith, I still had things that challenged my viewpoint, but I have the ability to adapt now and not deny verifiable facts.
@@jayv9779 why do religious people believe that "evil" is always trying to trick people and lead them away from the truth, and then fight like hell (lol) to avoid the truth?
Even if their fanfic were real, wouldn't Satan or whatever be constantly disguising his lies as Biblical truth etc?
People just want to constantly be told how right they are without taking the (sometimes painful) effort of testing those ideas and following actual observable truths. It's astounding.
@David Anewman you just keep continuing to show your ignorance.
@@Heycool08 All good points. I don't see how you could possibly support the idea of free will in the system that Christianity sets up. God would be outside of time and all creation would happen at once. Every decision made every deliberation about every decision already done. There would be no free will. Without free will there would be no possible true fall of man as the fall would have been predestined. It would be like a movie God wrote and produced and now is watching.
"The Flintstones was not a documentary!!!"🤣🤣🤣
Mike drop.
As Ryan George said "these type of claims are pier reviewed, they are reviewed by a drunk guy on pier."
Non-bird dinosaurs lived between about 245 and 66 million years ago, in a time known as the Mesozoic Era. This was many millions of years before the first modern humans, Homo sapiens, appeared. Scientists divide the Mesozoic Era into three periods: the Triassic, Jurassic and Cretaceous.May 21, 2012

Natural History Museum › discover
I ran into a guy having a conversation with a sandwich yesterday who im pretty sure is just slightly less nuts than this caller.
At least the sandwich is real.
@@joecoolioness6399 Excellent point.
I recently looked up the relevant figures and found that, according to Wikipedia, there are 6,400 species of mammal in the world today, 11,700 species of reptile, around 10,000 bird species and around 8,000 amphibians. Okay, let's subtract a few hundred species that are fully aquatic (and let's ignore for the moment the issue they confront of changed salinity levels). Two of each still leaves us with 70,000 individual vertebrate animals that you have to somehow fit onto a 130-metre-long ship, plus enough food to sustain them for a year.
And that's even before you come to the hundreds of thousands of invertebrate species, PLUS the fact that these people are now claiming there were dinosaurs present as well.
Let's not forget all the various species of prehistoric mammal, such as the dozens, probably hundreds of species of elephant that paleontologists have identified....
This just gets better and better.
there's zero chance this guy is not a troll.
The genetic bottleneck that he mentioned didn't happen 9 thousand years ago, it happened about 70 to 75 thousand years ago. And all indications are it was from a super-volcanic eruption (the Tobo eruption) and its aftermath, not a flood.
"My views don't follow the norms of most beliefs" .. mate, your views don't follow the norms of anything that comes remotely close to reality.
Holding a Bachelor of Science with Honours, in Mining Geology, from the Royal School of Mines, Imperial College, London, this hurts my brain.
Apparently the world’s oldest tree was discovered in Sweden and is 9550 years old.
There is a clonal tree in Sweden that's 9500 years old, so that's probably what he's trying to think of.
Old Tjikko, I think. Poor, scraggly thing, lol.
Yea, I posted about this too. When he probably saw the Methuselah tree when he looked it up, which is 4500 years old. That's why he changed his answer.
The flood Apparently happens 4000 years ago at most (creation.com) but it wiped out Dinosaurs at 5-9000 years ago. Well played sir we’ll played.
I have heard some apologists claim that after the flood, it changed the entire atmosphere and environment of the Earth so that our modern carbon dating methods would be inaccurate. I strongly disagree
I like this Matt over what he has become in his recent shows: rough, cold hearted, and dry.
For those who believe in Noah's ark please go to the channel Nonstampcollector and go watch Noah's ark part 1 & 2 😂
Edit: spelling
"Modern science says x"
"What modern science?"
*hangs up*
How pathetic
MrSubsound90 ... the Christian God Jesus is Satan the devil and he is not coming back... Christians worship Satan with a human sacrifice of Jesus to Satan... you've been deceived... repent accept Jahovah an do good works.
@@cwdor LoL, the only thing drive by verbal diarrhea makes me do is hope that you find a psychiatrist.
@@cwdor Your imaginary sky daddy doesn't exist... I pity you.
Bob Dole
chales dor is being dishonnest about his believes. People who believe in Jehovah also believe in Jesus as his son.
I think that the colony trees are like 80,000 years old at least that’s what I found when I looked it up
The Milky Way's satellites? Is he talking about our neighboring galaxies? The nearest is Andromeda, and it's 2.5 million light years away. Besides, "satellites" are objects that orbit a parent object, and our neighboring galaxies don't orbit ours. The Milky Way has no satellites.
Just to think dinosaurs would still be the dominant creatures on Earth were it not for a falling rock from outer space. They had after all a very successful 150 million year run before the impact.
If the water from the flood was high enough to cover the mountains it would have killed all the fish and all the plants as well because of the pressure.
And the change in salinity would kill any survivors.
Yahweh must have rebooted Genesis 1 to fill in the gaps.
And since the water would have covered the earth to a level six feet above Mount Everest, there's the added problem of where it could have drained to when it was time for it to recede. With a flat earth, it could have poured over the edge into space, but with a round earth, there would have been no "downhill' for it to flow away through. Assuming a flood that large happened, we'd still all be covered with water to a level six feet above the highest mountain.
The oldest tree was about 4900 years old, but a colony of 47,000 quaking aspen trees in the Fishlake National Forest of Utah, is considered one of the oldest and largest organisms in the world. The colony has been estimated to be 80,000 years old
I had a really shit day but Daniel's comments made me roar with laughter
Imagine the state of the land & vegetation, submerged under Salt Water - for all that time.
It would be...what's the term....completely fucked.
If the god character is all knowing and all powerful he must have known that Jesus was not going to die, merely sleep for several days. Sky daddy then woke him up.
Some people call him the magic man up in the sky.
If you ever meet this caller in real life, run.
The question I have about a 'great flood' that covered the earth -it would have covered Mt Everest - how did Noah and the animals breath? ... it's a cruel world.
Breathing would not be an issue as the water would push the air up. Ofcourse this would also compress the atmosphere which would have produced enough heat at the surface to cook anyone who happened to be alive at the time.
What do you expect from people who believe in fables and fallacies?
And what can you expect from a God who crucified his own son?
Nunyer Bidness I thought it was more like an abortion John 3:16
Pando Tree 80,000+ years old, oldest living organism on record.
The Flintstones is not a fucking documentary . Love that!
Hold on, The Flintstones isn't a documentary??? Mind blown!!!
this shows that every state has crazy Christians. I know one lives down from me and just graduated from liberty university
Hahaha, its cute when they think liberty university is an actual university. Or that they learned anything there.
@@themplar the learned god of the gaps
@@goldendogwoodworks6675 And how to protect your faith at all costs with dishonesty and willfull ignorance.
Ow and ofcourse the world famous " stick your fingers in your ears and start shouting LALALALALALALAcanthearyouLALALALALA" technique.
It was all done with..GOD MAGIC..BIBLE TOLD HIM SO..
Ohhhhhh my brain is exploding !!!!
Sometimes you have to give up on trying to make a rational conversation with people. Most religions violate logic at least in some areas; people rising from the dead, conversations with archangels, etc. I think when it gets into an assortment of oddball claims that you have to pull the plug.
Regardless if the Bible is true or not, and regardless if there is any evidence of God's existence or not today.
Put all this aside and tell me:
If a GOD that is the inventor, designer and creator of all things, including the laws of physics that governs it (and logically he IS outside of his creation, thus he is not bound by them) existed; would it be impossible for him to manipulate the atoms like Lego pieces and turn water into wine?
If such God truly existed, would it be impossible for him to raise someone from the dead?
Would it been impossible for him to reinvent, design, take shortcuts, or remake the laws of physics if he is the inventor designer and creator of it?
If he invented time, space, matter and the laws of physics that governs all things; would it be impossible for him to see everything and know everything from the outside, and be able to do all things as he pleases?
if such a God exist ( and he is the inventor, designer and creator of all things, including the laws of physics, and is outside of his creation) can his creation ( human beings) use God's invented laws, to explain God, to prove God or to disprove him?
If such a God exist, you can't say what is possible or impossible for God to do.
@90% Nobel Scientists Believe GOD! You are correct, if there were a god who could do anything, then that god could do, well, anything.
@@WhtetstoneFlunky well I did not put it that way.
I said with other words; is it logical to say that if a inventor designer and creator of all things including the laws of physics; everything is possible for him even raising people from the dead?
I say this because you said "most religions violet logic", and then you said "people rising from the dead".
So if a God exists, is it illogical to say that God can raise up people from the dead whenever he pleases, even if it defines science?
@@90nobelscientistsbelievego54 Your name is backwards, and 10 times too exaggerated.
@90% Nobel Scientists Believe GOD! Let me put your rationale a different way... if a gorilla existed that could fly around the moon, then isn't it logical that a gorilla would have orbited the moon? My answer to that question would be yes. Now, does such a gorilla exist? That is what makes it illogical since there is no evidence for it.