Why is it even possible that's so hard to people to understand the bible is literature, just as any religious writtings, it's fiction, just that simple, how can people not understand that? Really makes my blood boil
@@AntitheistHumanBecause kids are brainwashed by it since birth and threatened with imaginary hell which makes them grow up terrified and confused, they suspend all logic and reason just to cling to those beliefs because of the fear of hell. The bible is basically an ancient comic book, it isn't even original, it copied the Epic Of Gilgamesh.
Please note most christians (outside the US) think of most of the Old Testament as allegorical or (for many) irrelevant. Please we may be weak minded but not to the levels American Christians inhabit.
@@Batlafication for the first 300 years of Christianity the OT was not regarded by Christians as part of their "holy book" indeed it was never adopted officially as part of a Christian bible. Early Christian writers recognised that much of the OT was in conflict with the reported words of Jesus and that some of it was in direct opposition to Jesus' s words. E.g he says suffer the children to come unto me, the psalmist says beat their brains out by banging their heads against a wall. Read your church history.
This guy deserves a gold medal in Mental Gymnastics. "They found an Ancient Boat, with rivets that were made 50 years ago." Even Star Trek couldn't pull that one off.
it seemed more likely to him that god's chosen people *knew* about modern metallurgy allowing them to create the rivet in the ancient world. Of course, as Jim pointed out, that still doesn't solve the problem of it being an obvious design flaw if this was intended to be a boat. This reminds me of mormons believing in ancient wooden submarines. This show is always about the true power of confirmation bias. It's amazing how even the smartest of us, like Linus Pauling or Ben Carson etc, can still easily fall victim to the most credulous thinking.
@@brucetopping248, Ben Carson is an idiot-savant: he may have at one time been a passable brain surgeon, but outside the O.R. he puts the "oof" in Doofus. He should only be in charge of watching grass grow. In fact, take away the "savant" part - I wouldn't want him anywhere near my cerebellum.
This caller broke my brain… he said the “Ark” that was found had metal found on it that is 50-60 years old and that shows that it’s biblical… that is like digging up an iPhone and saying “wow! they had iPhones 2,000 years ago!”
Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out that part... was he trying to say that only God could have produced metal in ancient times which we didn't have until 60 years ago? Which in itself is a fallacious argument, because there have been numerous inventions lost to history but reinvented. Like Greek fire, for example. We don't know what it consisted of, but now we have napalm.
Ah... But clearly if you find one high up on a mountain it would be ancient, because how else would Heracles find Prometheus without a tracking device? That's just logic.
@@dx1450 Actually, Jim is wrong about boat building. There are plenty of boats held together with rivets, nails, screws and bolts. My own wooden boat had copper rivets, clenched over copper washers, and bronze bolts to hold the keel on. He said his boat was made of plywood, so possibly could be entirely glued construction with epoxy resin. However, that doesn’t mean that the caller has anything other than a ridiculous argument and is completely gullible.
@@dx1450 while I have absolutely no time for the ridiculous tale of the Ark, I would point out that metal nails have been used in boat building in the past. A perfect example is the clinker built Scandinavian and viking ships.
Jim always catching us off guard with his ability to just listen, until his turn, and boom, he drops in and just destroys the argument. Always learning something new.
@Richard Gregory - I came here looking for this comment. Ron Wyatt's ark claims were debunked many years ago. As soon as this guy mentions Wyatt I knew it was a lost cause.
Doubt in what, whether the ark was real or not!? There is no doubt, it was not real, there's nothing about the Noah's ark story that is even plausible or even probable!
@@paulmcdonald312 I know that, and you know that, but Aron's series answers any possible questions a theist might try to put to someone regarding the story. Or give non-believers plenty of ammo to discredit any claims the ark really existed.
16:23 - It would be pretty surprising if we found evidence of a wooden boat the size of Noah's ark, given that such a structure would collapse under its own weight.
Even the largest sail ships ever recorded had were built with metal support structures to maintain the hull's integrity. If they required that, what made these people think that a ship supposed to hold millions of species in one large wooden boat be possible?
@@watchandjewelryloft4713 the other day I did a quick calculation and discovered that the earth's gravity would have changed by .001% due to the extra 2.5 times more water to flood the earth up to the level of Mt. Everest. Don't ask me where all the water came from or where it went after.
Yeah, same. For 15yrs. I've watched Matt change from an angry atheist, to a person giving only facts and logic, without huge emotion. I know, from experience, this happens. It has happened to me. I was very angry and now, just interested in ppls' views!
On many occasions, I think you are right. However, other ppl have joined the ACA, and have encouraged more friendly conversations. He'll still go off his nut 🤪 if ppl don't answer his questions. Then tap dance 💃 around his questions. And rightly so!
People can check out the SS Wyoming on Wikipedia, the largest wooden ship ever built that was only about 75% of the dimensions of the fabled ark of the bible. It was never seaworthy because it flexed too much and took on water all the time. It was eventually reinforced with steel and had permanent steam powered bilge pumps, but still foundered and sank while in service. Not too mention that the replica at the Ark Park is built around concrete pillars. Funny how modern engineers had to tell Ken Ham that they couldn't build a boat that big out of wood even if it never had to float on water.
2000 man years in modern time (Ark Encounter) translates to 10 000 000 man years in the time of Noah. That means that the ark would take 1.25 million years to build by noah and his family.
But didn't Noah have God (the Creator) instructing Him on how to build the Ark? It had never rained before, so Noah had no boats to compare with, it was the FIRST boat, wasn't it?
Charles is a great example of my Georgia neighbors. If you wonder how we have a batshit crazy congresswoman like Marjorie Green, refer back to this conversation. There are 1000s of Charles'.
I agree as I'm from and still in GA 14th, MTG's district. I also bet your neighbours fly the black and red oval G as well. MTG is alumna. Proud 1990 GT alumni here! 😝
I'm really sorry to be this pedantic, but Watts are Calculated as the voltage squared over the resistance, i.e., V2/ohms. In an electrical grid, the output volts remain constant, therefore "sockets", or recepticals, don't supply specific Watts, instead they supply a specific voltage. in the US its 120volts at 60 Hz and European is 220 volts @ 50 Hz. This explanation is Prolly why I dont have friends ? 🤣
It was the first story in the book that made me start to question things. I was 7 and really into zoology so I knew it didn’t make any sense unless it was meant as a metaphor. The story says the entire planet was covered in water even though the writers didn’t know of the existence of Australia, Antarctica or the Americas. Clearly make believe or based on a true event with a bunch of mystical nonsense.
@@timothybrown5999 Yes, the bible says that the highest mountains were covered by water 15 cubits deep, which a cubit was the length from your elbow to the tip of your fingers, so that's roughly about 30 feet. Can you imagine how many quintrillions of gallons of water that would be covering the entire earth? So... where did all that water go?
Upon closer investigation, those "chariot wheels" turned out to be nothing more than plain old hatch covers for the fountains of the deep. Move along folks, there's nothing to see here!
@@richiejohnson According to biblical cosmology, the universe is an immense chaotic ocean. God separated it from earth above and below with a hard crystalline shell called the firmament. So when it came time for the great flood, He opened up ports to release rain from the skies, but also subterranean geysers (Genesis 7:11). That's how God runs the world, according to ancient myth.
I did a little time in the county jail one time. They had all of these different religions coming in to show everyone the light (clowns), but one guy in particular was bringing these Ron Wyatt videos in a few times a week. I watched a few of them just for shit and giggles. Then the jail Chaplain saw a few of them and stopped him from coming in! So even the crazy can pick out the craziest!!
Not long ago my mum (who is apparently married to Jesus) told me about Noah’s ark being found in Turkey. Cut a long story short she decided to turn a discussion into an argument & had the nerve to tell me “there’s more evidence of Jesus’s existence than there is of you & me”. I was baffled, surprised, amazed at the level of stupidity & brainwash my mother had become. Just before I left her house I asked if she can bring evidence of Jesus’s existence & she told me she couldn’t 🤔🤨🙃
@The Unknown, Jesus is mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls and by Jewish Historian Josephus. Not too long ago they found a rock carving in Jerusalem which recounts Jesus casting Demons into Swine. The Garden Tomb in Jerusalem is where Jesus was crucified and laid. The huge round stone the served as the closure has been found in the Grotto below the site of the Crucifixion.
Sorry, but as soon as you bring up Noah's Ark, you're done. Noah's Ark is not a historical story, it's the most absurd story in a book full of absurd stories. It is truly baffling that people in this day and age could believe such silly, easily debunked nonsense.
Yes I have very little time for people who can believe in a supposedly benevolent supreme being capable of creating the wonder of the universe but, seemingly unable to predict how his ape like creations would turn out, has a hissy fit with them and yet cannot think of a way to magic away the undesirables, so drowns them along with all the innocent children and animals. It's funny how this god has such very human limitations.
There’s a reason creationists fixate on this story - as something so evidently at odds with reality, if you can get the faithful believing in Noah’s Ark, they’ll accept all the other nonsense.
The dishonesty just shows how desperate people (especially Christians, in my personal experience) are to be right. They aren't even phased by having to break their own ten commandments.
Regardless of the fastener used, _no wooden vessel that size is seaworthy._ There's never been a wooden vessel that size constructed. _Ever._ It would rip itself apart _in still water._
@@henrim9348 That's when you counter with: "If by 'mysterious ways' you mean 'magic,' like in fairy tales, ya got me. Coz only magic could hold the thing together. The maths certainly do not. I can't argue against magic and spells."
There was something sweetly satisfying about Charles's deathly silence when Jim pointed out that metal rivets aren't used in wooden boats. The awful moment of dawning comprehension when you realise that you've made a total goose of yourself.
Not trying to get political, but the Noah's Ark dude reminds me of folks with no College degree saying they don't Vax because they did their own research. People starting their research with a conclusion who have no idea how to do actual research.
I invite these people to shake hands with my beloved mom. She died of Covid two weeks ago because she refused the vaccine I desperately tried her to get. Congratulations anti vax fuckups. Statistics confirmed, thanks for my scar I wish upon thee.
If I refer to the Odyssey and can see that they used bronze swords and shields, which we have found, and they came from Athens, where we have observable, testable proof that it exists and we still have portions of buildings dating back to that time. We have the remains of Troy found with walls and all kinds of evidence of walls and people from that time. That means that according to his logic Zeus, Ares, Athena and all the other Greek gods are real.
I'd love to know which passage missed, where it was stated: "thou shalt reinforce thy gopher wood and pitch with 20th century rivets and ignore thy leaks which occurs..the lord thy God worketh in mysterious ways"
Watching Jim destroy this caller with his freakishly detailed knowledge of boat making was a true delight. Makes me wonder how long Jim’s been waiting for this exact opportunity to own some fool Christian over that damned silly Ark.
@@sandersson2813 Yes; the caller believes that a hunk of ancient wood with metal rivets in it must be the Arc, but Jim is saying that's impossible, because a wooden boat with metal rivets in it would cause the wood to scrape against the rivets and leak and sink. Therefor, the Ark, if it did exist at all, could not have had metal rivets in it. Of course, this is just one of many reasons why the story is bullshit, but I really enjoyed hearing Jim zero in on this one specific reason.
I am absolutely baffled by so called intelligent adults who accept the ark crap, I was 8 or 9 years old when I realised that it was garbage, I live in Hull, a city in the Uk where ships were built and was the largest fishing port in the UK. I used to go to the shipyard and watch the ships being built by experts and the teachers were telling us that an old man and his untrained family built a gigantic boat and filled it with animals. I even asked some of the boat builders if it was possible to build a boat big enough to take all the animals, this was just after we had a lesson about the ark, to a man they all laughed and said it is a stupid story and it wasn't possible, one of my friends when I served in the army was a shipwright and I asked what his thoughts were on the ark, he also laughed, he said a boat like that wouldn't survive the launching never mind a flood.
I went to Scotland and visited Loch Ness and they have a visitors centre, merchandise and even some grainy photos along with some people who have personal testimony… this all proves the loch ness monster is real. Probably.
‘A submarine!’ Haha, I fucking love it Jim! Of all the stories in the buybull, the story of Noahs Ark has to be the most absurd, or at least in the top three. It’s just plainly ludicrous to believe that it actually happened.
But first some reason, it's the one story creationists chose as the perfect hill to die on Up there with the dumbest stories told to adults And THAT is what they went with
It's like somebody witnessing a magician producing smoke from his sleeve, then stating, "they've proved he had no wires leading to that sleeve, so magic is real!"
At least with the magician you can see he produced smoke from his sleeve somehow. A fair analogy would be someone hearing a story about a magician producing smoke from his sleeve and changing the names and places to write the story down as his own, then someone trying to prove magician really produced smoke from his sleeve.
I worked as a research assistant/archaeologist for about 3-4 years.. and we used to dig shovel test pits at pre-determined locations on our projects. The idea is to either dig down 3 feet or 1 full foot into subsoil (subsoil being the original soil in place 5-6 thousand years ago, depending on where you are, etc). Separate out the test by layer and sift through each one, looking for artifacts. At the end, you bag what you've found, if anything at all, and write out the details of the test pit in a log, noting how deep each layer was, the color and type of soil, depth, etc.. Subsoil, generally speaking, is usually light brown and pretty sandy but can often be confused with FILL layers used in construction. This is a very longwinded way of telling a story about a co-worker who once found a plastic crucifix in one of his test pits. He claimed he found it in 'subsoil'.. When I pointed out to him that he just found a crucifix that predates Jesus by about 3 thousand years, he turned red and said.. "shut up".. lol. Obviously it was in a fill layer. But this concept speaks very specifically to this guy's claim of newer metal being found in something that's supposed to be thousands of years old. Just isn't possible. It's called the law of superposition.
For the sea to rise to the tops of all the mountains on Earth as the bible says, it would have to rise 29,000 feet in 40 days and nights. That means that rain would have to fall at a rate of about 20 feet a minute. Even if you grant that "the fountains of the deep broke up" so that the rain only had to fall at 10 feet a minute, That's still like being at the bottom of Niagara Falls. A wooden boat would be broken to splinters in 10 minutes.
Also, it’s just a logistical nightmare. What did they do for food? What about poop? How did they deal with the poop? What about birds? Did they all just land on the deck? What about their poop? Physical limitations and discrepancies in the geological evidence aside, how do Christians account for the feeding and waste management aspect of building a boat with every kind of animal?
This line of thinking i always go to The Iliad. The book relates actual events and places for which we have archaeological evidence. The ruins of Troy and the island of Ithaca etc. So does that mean the rest of the story is true? Posseidon and Athena etc must be real too because they were there. According to the book with lots of facts.
Charles, great news, I just found Atlantis. It looks like a city, there's evidence of water damage, there were people there who didn't tell me it wasn't Atlantis. The ancient city even has skyscrapers in it. It's a perfect match.
There is no park dedicated to Noah's Arc in Turkey. Mt Ararat is volcanic which means it has some unusual rock formations. Look it up, it is just a rock formation.
Noah's Wife: "Noah,Noah? There's someone here from city planning." Noah: "What, Okay..., What can I do for you..." Official: "Well, he says looking at his clipboard, It's about your boat..." Noah: "What's wrong with it...?" Official:"It doesn't meet the building code. Why are there holes in the bottom..?" Noah: "To let any extra water out silly!" Official:"You've never built a boat before have you..?" Noah:" No, of course not, we're in a f**king desert, I've never even seen a boat before..." Official:" Well, how do you know how to build it and how big? " Noah:"I have an old Bill Cosby album. We spin it on a stick and use the very sharp tip of a unicorn horn to hear it..." Official:" How did you get the horn from the unicorn. " Noah:" Oh, well we had to kill it..." Official:"Is that why you have two of every animal, but only one unicorn?" Noah:" Yes. We have two of each so they can breed when the boat settles again... Oh, damn, forgot about that part when I was getting the horn... Well, no one will miss the unicorns..." Official:" So when are you expecting the flood? " Noah:"Oh, about 80 years give or take, depending on how long it takes for all the animals to get here Official:"Will it really take that long for the sloths and Kangaroos, to get here?" Noah:" The what?"
A few years ago I was camping near Stonehenge and found an old rusty tent peg in the ground…..I dint know how it got there therefore the people who built Stonehenge had tents.
So basically he is saying the Bible is true because "they" found a boat-shape on a mountain that must be the ark. When asked why it must be the ark, his evidence is the bible says so and the Bible is true.
Debating "history" with people who believe in magic is like debating history with people who believe in magic. You both have more patience in your pinkies than I will ever have. Thanks.
I googled it while watching. His Wikipedia says his profession is "adventurer", and states no one in the scientific community OR biblical scholars view him as credible.
I spit out my drink laughing when watching a video by Aron Ra where he said that since Noah's Ark only had one window, the 8 people would have died immediately from the methane gas from the animals farting and pooping!!!
I love how all Biblical literalists keep trying to insist that the good patriarch must have had Tony Stark tech to work with, when their holy text says God’s instruction was to use gopher wood and pitch.
I wouldn't call it a submarine. I'd call it an artificial reef. I'm still thinking that if there actually WAS metal that didn't exist until 50 or 60 years ago, that means it existed when Wyatt claimed to have found the boat. Which means, for all we know, even if there were metal there, Wyatt could have planted it.
@@hz.kemalpasa2997 And what happens when you sink a boat? Coral grows on it, thus forming a coral reef where there didn't used to be one. A submarine presumes that it's still capable of self-propelled movement when it's under water.
Hey, wait a minute! Someone on TV just told me that Noah's Ark is REAL! Are you telling me someone on TV might be lying to me? Where should I donate 10% of my earnings to ensure that doesn't happen again?
Sorry Jim, but lots of wooden boats have used metal rivets all through history. The Sutton Hoo ship is one example. Doesn't mean the Ark ever existed though.
Unfortunately Charles, and in fact most people are of the mind that there’s a global planetary cabal that’s existed for centuries to make them look bad. That’s why Charles said in this call and his next one that “it’ll never be proven true because it doesn’t past scrutiny which is always biased if it doesn’t agree with me”. In his next call he tried to say “all science was found to be a hoax” BECAUSE he has no evidence and he knows that.
I know humans lived with dinosaurs, I saw it as a small child on this documentary called The Flintstones.
Why is it even possible that's so hard to people to understand the bible is literature, just as any religious writtings, it's fiction, just that simple, how can people not understand that? Really makes my blood boil
@@AntitheistHumanyes sir! Say it louder for the people in the back!🙌🏼🔊🗣️
@@AntitheistHumanBecause kids are brainwashed by it since birth and threatened with imaginary hell which makes them grow up terrified and confused, they suspend all logic and reason just to cling to those beliefs because of the fear of hell. The bible is basically an ancient comic book, it isn't even original, it copied the Epic Of Gilgamesh.
They recently dug up a petrified wooden sign with 'Bedrock Quarry' carved into it.
It's happening now
Jurassic Park duh
Charles is a fine example of what religion does to the human brain!
@SD Jones Got evidence that Sabin was religious?
You can actually replicate the effect with solvents, just get some alcohol and start sniffing
Please note most christians (outside the US) think of most of the Old Testament as allegorical or (for many) irrelevant. Please we may be weak minded but not to the levels American Christians inhabit.
@@daistoke1314 why though? Os it not the word of God? Or does it make it easier to believe if you cherry pick the stuff you like?
@@Batlafication for the first 300 years of Christianity the OT was not regarded by Christians as part of their "holy book" indeed it was never adopted officially as part of a Christian bible. Early Christian writers recognised that much of the OT was in conflict with the reported words of Jesus and that some of it was in direct opposition to Jesus' s words. E.g he says suffer the children to come unto me, the psalmist says beat their brains out by banging their heads against a wall. Read your church history.
This guy deserves a gold medal in Mental Gymnastics. "They found an Ancient Boat, with rivets that were made 50 years ago." Even Star Trek couldn't pull that one off.
it seemed more likely to him that god's chosen people *knew* about modern metallurgy allowing them to create the rivet in the ancient world. Of course, as Jim pointed out, that still doesn't solve the problem of it being an obvious design flaw if this was intended to be a boat. This reminds me of mormons believing in ancient wooden submarines. This show is always about the true power of confirmation bias. It's amazing how even the smartest of us, like Linus Pauling or Ben Carson etc, can still easily fall victim to the most credulous thinking.
@Account NumberEight not even that. They found something that someone thought was a boat, thought had metal... etc etc etc.
@@bortiz11 “wELl tHeY bUiLt A pArK tHeRe”
@@brucetopping248,
Ben Carson is an idiot-savant: he may have at one time been a passable brain surgeon, but outside the O.R. he puts the "oof" in Doofus. He should only be in charge of watching grass grow. In fact, take away the "savant" part - I wouldn't want him anywhere near my cerebellum.
It would be more miraculous if the ancient boat had rivets that wouldn't be made for another 50 years.
This caller broke my brain… he said the “Ark” that was found had metal found on it that is 50-60 years old and that shows that it’s biblical… that is like digging up an iPhone and saying “wow! they had iPhones 2,000 years ago!”
One broken brain leads to another...
His smooth brain thinks that’s proof it was divinely built lol. That’s pretty obvious
Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out that part... was he trying to say that only God could have produced metal in ancient times which we didn't have until 60 years ago? Which in itself is a fallacious argument, because there have been numerous inventions lost to history but reinvented. Like Greek fire, for example. We don't know what it consisted of, but now we have napalm.
Ah... But clearly if you find one high up on a mountain it would be ancient, because how else would Heracles find Prometheus without a tracking device? That's just logic.
I literally thought the exact same thing. Like, down to the iPhone analogy.
Flintstone Parks were proof we coexisted with dinosaurs. "Yabba dabba doo" translates to "what would jesus do"
ahahaha xD
Ride a dinosaur, evidently XD
I am going to get a YDD bracelet
The Ken Ham gang believe humans coexisted with dinosaurs only 4,000 years ago 🤣🤣
Siiicckkk
When Matt and Jim asked the caller how the metal rivets ended up on the "ark" I was waiting for him to say "God works in mysterious ways".
Dude I about spit my drink when he made that comment.
He does. You just don't want to believe.
@@mattjindrak Shut it up. Shut. Up.
@@mattjindrakprove it
This episode was absolutely valuable cuz it taught us something about how boats work that us non-boat only individuals might not know
I know little to nothing about boats & ships, but even I was wondering why anyone would use metal rivets on a wooden boat.
@@dx1450 Actually, Jim is wrong about boat building. There are plenty of boats held together with rivets, nails, screws and bolts. My own wooden boat had copper rivets, clenched over copper washers, and bronze bolts to hold the keel on. He said his boat was made of plywood, so possibly could be entirely glued construction with epoxy resin. However, that doesn’t mean that the caller has anything other than a ridiculous argument and is completely gullible.
@@dx1450 while I have absolutely no time for the ridiculous tale of the Ark, I would point out that metal nails have been used in boat building in the past. A perfect example is the clinker built Scandinavian and viking ships.
Jim has been waiting his whole life for this caller
Jim always catching us off guard with his ability to just listen, until his turn, and boom, he drops in and just destroys the argument. Always learning something new.
His face stays so relaxed that when I first started watching these videos I thought maybe he was zoning out, I was sorely mistaken lol
Charles from GA is why I have a very difficult time having a glass-half-full mentality about the future of the human species.
Me too
I've divorced myself from the human species, I just can't believe I'm part of them anymore!
We need people like him. He makes my average kids look super smart and guess who gets the job?
@@harrygearhart4520 agreed .... l cannot believe l am a member of this selfish, stupid, superstitious, greedy ,violent species.
@@joecoolioness6399 That won't wash. Marjorie Taylor Greene is from Georgia.
The ark has been found on Gilligan's Island. A three hour tour, a three hour tour.
If not for the courage of the fearless crew the ark would be lost- oops never mind it was lost 😞
Ha ha funny stuff
Now I can't get the tune out of my head!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"The proof I have, is that Ron Wyatt, he found...."
Love the way that everyone breaks into laughter - they don't need to hear what's coming next!
@Richard Gregory - I came here looking for this comment. Ron Wyatt's ark claims were debunked many years ago. As soon as this guy mentions Wyatt I knew it was a lost cause.
Aron Ra has an excellent multi-part series just on the Ark here on YT. Highly recommended for anyone who might have any doubts.
Doubt in what, whether the ark was real or not!? There is no doubt, it was not real, there's nothing about the Noah's ark story that is even plausible or even probable!
@@paulmcdonald312 I know that, and you know that, but Aron's series answers any possible questions a theist might try to put to someone regarding the story. Or give non-believers plenty of ammo to discredit any claims the ark really existed.
@@paulmcdonald312 are you Darrell’s dad?
All I have to say here is that I love Matt's laugh. We don't get to hear it very often......
16:23 - It would be pretty surprising if we found evidence of a wooden boat the size of Noah's ark, given that such a structure would collapse under its own weight.
God magic modified Earth's gravity. Duh. Everyone knows that. 😂😂😂😂😂
Even the largest sail ships ever recorded had were built with metal support structures to maintain the hull's integrity. If they required that, what made these people think that a ship supposed to hold millions of species in one large wooden boat be possible?
@@watchandjewelryloft4713 the other day I did a quick calculation and discovered that the earth's gravity would have changed by .001% due to the extra 2.5 times more water to flood the earth up to the level of Mt. Everest. Don't ask me where all the water came from or where it went after.
I love how these theists go overboard trying to prove the Ark...
At least he had Matt and Jim to keep matters on an even keel.
@@CAPSLOCKPUNDIT They were not too stern.
They are all floundering after they go overboard.
@@JC-jo9bf I bow to your superior understanding. Probably wouldn't be able to sea level without it.
I sea what you did there matey, and I approve 👍.
"Charles, you can't be that stupid."
Actually, Charles can be that stupid.
...said Morgan Freeman.
So the kangaroos bounced all the way to Australia with no skeletons found on their way and no land bridge to Australia?
Even better! They also ferried all other land animals in their pouch.
I wanna see the lake tanks for lake trout!
its unbelievable how many people think "I don't know how that could happen" is somehow proof of some supernatural thing
Cannot get enough of this show!
Same
Yeah, same. For 15yrs. I've watched Matt change from an angry atheist, to a person giving only facts and logic, without huge emotion. I know, from experience, this happens. It has happened to me. I was very angry and now, just interested in ppls' views!
@@beccatee66 Really? I find Matt has become angrier. In the early days he was pretty calm.
On many occasions, I think you are right. However, other ppl have joined the ACA, and have encouraged more friendly conversations. He'll still go off his nut 🤪 if ppl don't answer his questions. Then tap dance 💃 around his questions. And rightly so!
My goodness, the comment about modern metal in the supposed ark was the most insane comment I have ever heard about the ark fable.
When he said, “Ron Wyatt”, Matt’s face lit up like a Christmas tree.
Loved Jim's random boat info lmao homie been waiting to drop that knowledge
People can check out the SS Wyoming on Wikipedia, the largest wooden ship ever built that was only about 75% of the dimensions of the fabled ark of the bible. It was never seaworthy because it flexed too much and took on water all the time. It was eventually reinforced with steel and had permanent steam powered bilge pumps, but still foundered and sank while in service.
Not too mention that the replica at the Ark Park is built around concrete pillars. Funny how modern engineers had to tell Ken Ham that they couldn't build a boat that big out of wood even if it never had to float on water.
2000 man years in modern time (Ark Encounter) translates to 10 000 000 man years in the time of Noah. That means that the ark would take 1.25 million years to build by noah and his family.
But didn't Noah have God (the Creator) instructing Him on how to build the Ark?
It had never rained before, so Noah had no boats to compare with, it was the FIRST boat, wasn't it?
@@laurenferris2223 " it was the FIRST boat, wasn't it?"
No! Utnapishtim did exactly the same thing a thousand years earlier.
@@laurenferris2223 “It had never rained before..” 🤦♂️
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Sumeria is one of the oldest recorded civilizations. I'm fairly certain boats were built back then as well.
Charles is a great example of my Georgia neighbors. If you wonder how we have a batshit crazy congresswoman like Marjorie Green, refer back to this conversation. There are 1000s of Charles'.
I agree as I'm from and still in GA 14th, MTG's district. I also bet your neighbours fly the black and red oval G as well. MTG is alumna. Proud 1990 GT alumni here! 😝
Charles' brain power is like a 5 watt incandescent bulb in a 100 watt socket
Burns bright?
@@gregschwartz6886 for a an instant and then went 'poof'
More like an unlit candle in a 100watt socket with no matchstick in sight.
I'm really sorry to be this pedantic, but Watts are Calculated as the voltage squared over the resistance, i.e., V2/ohms. In an electrical grid, the output volts remain constant, therefore "sockets", or recepticals, don't supply specific Watts, instead they supply a specific voltage. in the US its 120volts at 60 Hz and European is 220 volts @ 50 Hz. This explanation is Prolly why I dont have friends ? 🤣
@@JayBandersnatch The hero we need.
"Why are you lying for Jesus?" I ❤️ Matt.
If we were back in the 80s, we could make a bumper sticker : Lie for Jesus !
Because Jesus can't exist without lies.
Ron Wyatt does have a Wikipedia page, also a page on his ark site in Turkey. Geologists dismiss it as a natural formation.
I cannot take anyone seriously who believes the noah myth was actually a real event.
The irony is,it's a great story to show people that it isn't true and full of improbable so called facts, Ideal to teach kids logic and reasoning.
@@iveseen1 Yet most Americans believe it’s undeniably true, or at the very least possible.
It was the first story in the book that made me start to question things. I was 7 and really into zoology so I knew it didn’t make any sense unless it was meant as a metaphor. The story says the entire planet was covered in water even though the writers didn’t know of the existence of Australia, Antarctica or the Americas. Clearly make believe or based on a true event with a bunch of mystical nonsense.
@@timothybrown5999 Yes, the bible says that the highest mountains were covered by water 15 cubits deep, which a cubit was the length from your elbow to the tip of your fingers, so that's roughly about 30 feet. Can you imagine how many quintrillions of gallons of water that would be covering the entire earth? So... where did all that water go?
‘Jesus’ rising from the dead is the biggest nonsense out there. 😂🤣😂
How this conversation went for THAT long is beyond me..
It was fun
🤗
When even Answers in Genesis discredits Ron Wyatt, that a sign not to put much stock in the man's claims !
Hey, that's a good one! 👍
This was a good call. Jim really did sink Charles to the bottom, right next to the chariot wheels🤣
Upon closer investigation, those "chariot wheels" turned out to be nothing more than plain old hatch covers for the fountains of the deep. Move along folks, there's nothing to see here!
Jim regularly sinks callers when he is given a chance. My favourite host!
@@CAPSLOCKPUNDIT what are fountains of the deep?
@@richiejohnson That sounds like something H.P. Lovecraft would have written.
@@richiejohnson According to biblical cosmology, the universe is an immense chaotic ocean. God separated it from earth above and below with a hard crystalline shell called the firmament. So when it came time for the great flood, He opened up ports to release rain from the skies, but also subterranean geysers (Genesis 7:11). That's how God runs the world, according to ancient myth.
"We know this ship is thousands of years old because we found a Yankees hat and a cell phone on it."
- the extremist right
Would have been convinced if they had found a rotary phone 😂
It was obviously Noah’s ark because we found a Koufax rookie card and a pet rock on a mountain
Found a Number 1 pencil- which predates the number2 pencil.. and that means Noah sketched the ark with it!
Yep, God for sure had a cell phone! 😆
They found the first and only single A battery.
4:30 When Jim revealed that he was a boating enthusiast I imagined boss music starting up in my head! 😀
‘How do you know it’s Noah’s Ark?’ ‘Well, it looks like a boat.’ A conscious human being actually thought of and uttered that response.
I did a little time in the county jail one time. They had all of these different religions coming in to show everyone the light (clowns), but one guy in particular was bringing these Ron Wyatt videos in a few times a week. I watched a few of them just for shit and giggles. Then the jail Chaplain saw a few of them and stopped him from coming in! So even the crazy can pick out the craziest!!
Not long ago my mum (who is apparently married to Jesus) told me about Noah’s ark being found in Turkey. Cut a long story short she decided to turn a discussion into an argument & had the nerve to tell me “there’s more evidence of Jesus’s existence than there is of you & me”.
I was baffled, surprised, amazed at the level of stupidity & brainwash my mother had become. Just before I left her house I asked if she can bring evidence of Jesus’s existence & she told me she couldn’t 🤔🤨🙃
Your Mom married Jesus?
@@kenbee1957 according to her Jesus is her husband 😂🤒
@@TheUnknown-bp2tl
Your grandpa is God...
@@kenbee1957 I think it’s Joseph and my grandmother is Mary lol
@The Unknown, Jesus is mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls and by Jewish Historian Josephus. Not too long ago they found a rock carving in Jerusalem which recounts Jesus casting Demons into Swine.
The Garden Tomb in Jerusalem is where Jesus was crucified and laid. The huge round stone the served as the closure has been found in the Grotto below the site of the Crucifixion.
Sorry, but as soon as you bring up Noah's Ark, you're done. Noah's Ark is not a historical story, it's the most absurd story in a book full of absurd stories. It is truly baffling that people in this day and age could believe such silly, easily debunked nonsense.
Adults even.
@Thomas Swederpregnant women and children. Great kiddie story isn't it.😳✌
it’s also celebrated as a good thing by theists. it’s stupid, demonstrably false and abhorrent.
Yes I have very little time for people who can believe in a supposedly benevolent supreme being capable of creating the wonder of the universe but, seemingly unable to predict how his ape like creations would turn out, has a hissy fit with them and yet cannot think of a way to magic away the undesirables, so drowns them along with all the innocent children and animals. It's funny how this god has such very human limitations.
There’s a reason creationists fixate on this story - as something so evidently at odds with reality, if you can get the faithful believing in Noah’s Ark, they’ll accept all the other nonsense.
👏My deepest admiration to your lots' commitment to truth and skepticism. Excellent clip.
“I didn’t give them a thing”
Literally half a second later: “I did make a donation”
🤣🤣🤣
The dishonesty just shows how desperate people (especially Christians, in my personal experience) are to be right. They aren't even phased by having to break their own ten commandments.
You got that wrong. He said “I didn't make a donation” I played it back twice, with CC on.
Regardless of the fastener used, _no wooden vessel that size is seaworthy._ There's never been a wooden vessel that size constructed. _Ever._ It would rip itself apart _in still water._
Exactly...my religious family would answer "god works in mysterious ways"...
@@henrim9348 That's when you counter with: "If by 'mysterious ways' you mean 'magic,' like in fairy tales, ya got me. Coz only magic could hold the thing together. The maths certainly do not. I can't argue against magic and spells."
I've grown to really like Jim. He's awesome at debunking stuff. Super smart guy.
Me too, thought he was a bit soft to begin with, but he has grown into a steady co host.
There was something sweetly satisfying about Charles's deathly silence when Jim pointed out that metal rivets aren't used in wooden boats. The awful moment of dawning comprehension when you realise that you've made a total goose of yourself.
They’ve ‘found the ark’ at least two dozen times just within my own lifetime.
Not trying to get political, but the Noah's Ark dude reminds me of folks with no College degree saying they don't Vax because they did their own research. People starting their research with a conclusion who have no idea how to do actual research.
anyone who makes medicine political isn't worth considering
they can be dismissed until they come up with something better
I invite these people to shake hands with my beloved mom.
She died of Covid two weeks ago because she refused the vaccine I desperately tried her to get.
Congratulations anti vax fuckups.
Statistics confirmed, thanks for my scar I wish upon thee.
@@isuckharderthanlife5413 Sorry for your loss.
@@Stuie417
Thank you very much.
My deepest wish right now would be that I'm just trolling.
But I'm not, I'm crying.
They unfortunately dealt with such a person on this show. Twice. And he was calling under fake names
Matt you are a STAR, I love your no nonsense approach and when you get IDIOTS like this one you SPEAK TRUTH.
Best wishes.
6:15 Sorry Jim, a boat made of wood with metal rivets is not called a submarine, it's called a sea wreck.
*_The Noah myth has to be one of the most laughable parts of the Buy Bull._* 🤣
It's easier to fool someone than it is to convince them they've been fooled
If I refer to the Odyssey and can see that they used bronze swords and shields, which we have found, and they came from Athens, where we have observable, testable proof that it exists and we still have portions of buildings dating back to that time. We have the remains of Troy found with walls and all kinds of evidence of walls and people from that time. That means that according to his logic Zeus, Ares, Athena and all the other Greek gods are real.
The story of Noah's ark is very real!!
Same as the spaceship that brought Superman to earth!!
You need to do your research people!!
Superman's ship is more realistic
@@conradlorgar5508
You are absolutely correct! And way cooler! 😁
Did they find baby Superman's spaceship ?
@Supernintendo Chalmers Those books with pictures are much easier to understand than the old "verily I say unto thee..." tomes.
Yeah, I believe the Superman story far more than the Ark or any of the other nonsense in that "holy book"
I'd love to know which passage missed, where it was stated: "thou shalt reinforce thy gopher wood and pitch with 20th century rivets and ignore thy leaks which occurs..the lord thy God worketh in mysterious ways"
Watching Jim destroy this caller with his freakishly detailed knowledge of boat making was a true delight. Makes me wonder how long Jim’s been waiting for this exact opportunity to own some fool Christian over that damned silly Ark.
4 years 8 months 12 days 16 hours 12 minutes 22 seconds
Unfortunately, the more Jim proves that such a boat is impossible, the more it proves to the caller that it's a biblical miracle!
I didnt quite understand Jim's point. Was he saying you cant have wooden boats held together with metal rivets?
@@sandersson2813 Yes; the caller believes that a hunk of ancient wood with metal rivets in it must be the Arc, but Jim is saying that's impossible, because a wooden boat with metal rivets in it would cause the wood to scrape against the rivets and leak and sink. Therefor, the Ark, if it did exist at all, could not have had metal rivets in it. Of course, this is just one of many reasons why the story is bullshit, but I really enjoyed hearing Jim zero in on this one specific reason.
@@MadHatter42 Im not defending the moronic caller but wooden boats are successfully made with rivets.
I am absolutely baffled by so called intelligent adults who accept the ark crap, I was 8 or 9 years old when I realised that it was garbage, I live in Hull, a city in the Uk where ships were built and was the largest fishing port in the UK.
I used to go to the shipyard and watch the ships being built by experts and the teachers were telling us that an old man and his untrained family built a gigantic boat and filled it with animals.
I even asked some of the boat builders if it was possible to build a boat big enough to take all the animals, this was just after we had a lesson about the ark, to a man they all laughed and said it is a stupid story and it wasn't possible, one of my friends when I served in the army was a shipwright and I asked what his thoughts were on the ark, he also laughed, he said a boat like that wouldn't survive the launching never mind a flood.
It might collapse before it was even launched.
@@pup1008 harsh 😃
@@Nocturnalux Yep!
Hello from north Hull
Thats a great story. I love how the adults there told you the unfiltered truth.
The way Jim was taking off his eye glasses when Charles said something about the ark was priceless 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Charles started off with Ron Wyatt as his source. His claim was a failure before he even finished his first sentence!
America is doomed because of people like Charles.
You sure are !
I love Jim's intelligence and real world discussions!
"God has given us what he has given us." Wow. Then he forgot to give Charles any ability to think.
If I ever want to sell a used car, gonna call Charles first.
I went to Scotland and visited Loch Ness and they have a visitors centre, merchandise and even some grainy photos along with some people who have personal testimony… this all proves the loch ness monster is real. Probably.
Reminds me of someone soaked some wood in condiments to make the wood look old enough to be the wood from the ark.
Teriyaki sauce. 😄
11:26 😂😂😂😂😂 I fell out of my chair crying 😂😂😂😂😂 I’m gone lol!!! “Why are you lying for Jesus?”
"It can't be a fraud because he didn't make any money from it" "I went to his museum" ummmmmm
Jim looking like he's sword fishing off the coast of Cuba.
If I took a shot of whisky for everytime Charles said "Okay", I'd be pissed within 3 minutes.
‘A submarine!’ Haha, I fucking love it Jim!
Of all the stories in the buybull, the story of Noahs Ark has to be the most absurd, or at least in the top three. It’s just plainly ludicrous to believe that it actually happened.
But first some reason, it's the one story creationists chose as the perfect hill to die on
Up there with the dumbest stories told to adults
And THAT is what they went with
It's like somebody witnessing a magician producing smoke from his sleeve, then stating, "they've proved he had no wires leading to that sleeve, so magic is real!"
At least with the magician you can see he produced smoke from his sleeve somehow. A fair analogy would be someone hearing a story about a magician producing smoke from his sleeve and changing the names and places to write the story down as his own, then someone trying to prove magician really produced smoke from his sleeve.
My favourite phrase ! " lying for jesus "
I worked as a research assistant/archaeologist for about 3-4 years.. and we used to dig shovel test pits at pre-determined locations on our projects. The idea is to either dig down 3 feet or 1 full foot into subsoil (subsoil being the original soil in place 5-6 thousand years ago, depending on where you are, etc). Separate out the test by layer and sift through each one, looking for artifacts. At the end, you bag what you've found, if anything at all, and write out the details of the test pit in a log, noting how deep each layer was, the color and type of soil, depth, etc.. Subsoil, generally speaking, is usually light brown and pretty sandy but can often be confused with FILL layers used in construction. This is a very longwinded way of telling a story about a co-worker who once found a plastic crucifix in one of his test pits. He claimed he found it in 'subsoil'.. When I pointed out to him that he just found a crucifix that predates Jesus by about 3 thousand years, he turned red and said.. "shut up".. lol. Obviously it was in a fill layer. But this concept speaks very specifically to this guy's claim of newer metal being found in something that's supposed to be thousands of years old. Just isn't possible. It's called the law of superposition.
"It doesn't quack like a duck or float like a duck, but if you squint it kinda looks like a duck so that's definitely a duck, no doubts about that"
For the sea to rise to the tops of all the mountains on Earth as the bible says, it would have to rise 29,000 feet in 40 days and nights. That means that rain would have to fall at a rate of about 20 feet a minute. Even if you grant that "the fountains of the deep broke up" so that the rain only had to fall at 10 feet a minute, That's still like being at the bottom of Niagara Falls. A wooden boat would be broken to splinters in 10 minutes.
A 400 year old man built a boat.
Yea... Sure...
It was a riveting tale!
Also, it’s just a logistical nightmare. What did they do for food? What about poop? How did they deal with the poop? What about birds? Did they all just land on the deck? What about their poop?
Physical limitations and discrepancies in the geological evidence aside, how do Christians account for the feeding and waste management aspect of building a boat with every kind of animal?
@@doomrabbit13 Because in their twisted reasoning and logic, god magically took care of all of those minute details in order for it to all work.
A huge boat, with seperated boxes for the 10.000 kinds of animals. each with 2 specimen. Yes, surely.
the fasteners for wooden boats are "treenails" - tapered pegs. used a millenium now they are time tested.
This line of thinking i always go to The Iliad. The book relates actual events and places for which we have archaeological evidence. The ruins of Troy and the island of Ithaca etc. So does that mean the rest of the story is true? Posseidon and Athena etc must be real too because they were there. According to the book with lots of facts.
I'm a Diver. I have dived in the Red Sea many times.
Wyat's stuff about Egyptian Chariot remains out there is total bullsheisse!
Charles, great news, I just found Atlantis. It looks like a city, there's evidence of water damage, there were people there who didn't tell me it wasn't Atlantis. The ancient city even has skyscrapers in it. It's a perfect match.
There is no park dedicated to Noah's Arc in Turkey. Mt Ararat is volcanic which means it has some unusual rock formations. Look it up, it is just a rock formation.
You guys quickly sunk his boat!! Haha that was fun.
Noah's Wife: "Noah,Noah?
There's someone here from city planning."
Noah: "What, Okay..., What can I do for you..."
Official: "Well, he says looking at his clipboard, It's about your boat..."
Noah: "What's wrong with it...?"
Official:"It doesn't meet the building code. Why are there holes in the bottom..?"
Noah: "To let any extra water out silly!"
Official:"You've never built a boat before have you..?"
Noah:" No, of course not, we're in a f**king desert, I've never even seen a boat before..."
Official:" Well, how do you know how to build it and how big? "
Noah:"I have an old Bill Cosby album. We spin it on a stick and use the very sharp tip of a unicorn horn to hear it..."
Official:" How did you get the horn from the unicorn. "
Noah:" Oh, well we had to kill it..."
Official:"Is that why you have two of every animal, but only one unicorn?"
Noah:" Yes. We have two of each so they can breed when the boat settles again... Oh, damn, forgot about that part when I was getting the horn...
Well, no one will miss the unicorns..."
Official:" So when are you expecting the flood? "
Noah:"Oh, about 80 years give or take, depending on how long it takes for all the animals to get here
Official:"Will it really take that long for the sloths and Kangaroos, to get here?"
Noah:" The what?"
@SD Jones Not entirely... Not everyone gets my sense of humour... Sometimes I simply get stared at... lol
Liked it
@SD Jones Man, I can almost taste your salt just from looking at yer text.
@SD Jones That all you gotta say? You gonna sit in your corner stewin' and saltin up like, pillar of salt~?
We found something that looks like a big boat, therefore it was Hringhorni, since that was a big boat, therefore the god Baldr exists.
All hail Baldr, excellent be his name. Where do I send my money?
A few years ago I was camping near Stonehenge and found an old rusty tent peg in the ground…..I dint know how it got there therefore the people who built Stonehenge had tents.
Hey, Noah was so advanced that Ron Wyatt was able to find his bag of Doritos!
So basically he is saying the Bible is true because "they" found a boat-shape on a mountain that must be the ark. When asked why it must be the ark, his evidence is the bible says so and the Bible is true.
What I have noticed, is the Bible gives us the exact dimensions of the ark, so we are able to compare.
Don't forget his crushing argument: "Well how else could a boat get up there?"
@@dx1450 Even aliens done it would have been a more credible argument lol
@@lorenzamccoy7512 Why would you believe in aliens without evidence but not God with insurmountable evidence?
@@laurenferris2223 Aliens don't require magic and don't break the laws of physics and logic.
I've not laughed this hard at one of these apologists for a long time 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Im sorry for the correction but there have being boats made whit iron, example viking boats and many after that
Debating "history" with people who believe in magic is like debating history with people who believe in magic. You both have more patience in your pinkies than I will ever have. Thanks.
I googled it while watching. His Wikipedia says his profession is "adventurer", and states no one in the scientific community OR biblical scholars view him as credible.
Kent Hovind believes him. That says it all
On that ark in Turkey they found the words "Made in China" stamped on one of the rivets.
The 15 hundred year old Sutton Hoo boat was of wood plank & iron nail construction. Sutton Hoo is near Woodbridge, Suffolk, England.
If you've found metal made 50 years ago in a boat crafted by non boat makers 2000 years ago. Isn't it obvious, that metal came from ancient aliens?
I spit out my drink laughing when watching a video by Aron Ra where he said that since Noah's Ark only had one window, the 8 people would have died immediately from the methane gas from the animals farting and pooping!!!
Imagine all the urine and feces being cleaned up by eight people, that’s literally all they’d be doing besides feeding everything.
And another theist falls flat on their face....
Yeah, but they're too bloody stupid to realise it.
There has been no real digging at that site to even prove that it is a boat or wooden structure
I love how all Biblical literalists keep trying to insist that the good patriarch must have had Tony Stark tech to work with, when their holy text says God’s instruction was to use gopher wood and pitch.
I wouldn't call it a submarine. I'd call it an artificial reef.
I'm still thinking that if there actually WAS metal that didn't exist until 50 or 60 years ago, that means it existed when Wyatt claimed to have found the boat. Which means, for all we know, even if there were metal there, Wyatt could have planted it.
The reason he called a boat with metal rivets a submarine is metal rivets would cause the boat to sink.
@@hz.kemalpasa2997 And what happens when you sink a boat? Coral grows on it, thus forming a coral reef where there didn't used to be one. A submarine presumes that it's still capable of self-propelled movement when it's under water.
@@Yinepuhotep Touché.
Hey, wait a minute! Someone on TV just told me that Noah's Ark is REAL! Are you telling me someone on TV might be lying to me? Where should I donate 10% of my earnings to ensure that doesn't happen again?
Sorry Jim, but lots of wooden boats have used metal rivets all through history. The Sutton Hoo ship is one example. Doesn't mean the Ark ever existed though.
The discovery of the Ark would make world wide headlines...not some dudes calling in and claiming it was, in an Atheist show.
Unfortunately Charles, and in fact most people are of the mind that there’s a global planetary cabal that’s existed for centuries to make them look bad. That’s why Charles said in this call and his next one that “it’ll never be proven true because it doesn’t past scrutiny which is always biased if it doesn’t agree with me”.
In his next call he tried to say “all science was found to be a hoax” BECAUSE he has no evidence and he knows that.
Find an ark but not the billions of skeletons from the creatures that died. 🤔