BEWARE: The New Ford Ranger’s Bed Can Break If You Install a Topper Without This Accessory!
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As an OG sub and reformed car salesman, these adds for "after sale" warranty are BS and tiresome. They do speak volumes about peoples fear, gulibility and crappy quality control issues (bean counters). They are a ripoff folks don't fall for it. Now you need to buy a warranty for your new cars warranty? TFL Truck needs to find an other way to monetize the channel. It degrades the other wise pretty good reviews. Next scam will be a warranty to cover the extended warranty's warranty.
“We here at TFL have been trying to reach you about your car’s extended warranty…” lol 😂
Seems like a $170 add for a $50-$60k+ truck should already be installed
Amen!
Exactly
Prob costs ford $20 to put it during the build
Should built and test sufficiently
Dude they put a solid rear instead of an independent rear in the mustang for so long to save about a hundred bucks per vehicle. They're not going to add this for a tiny percentage of buyers. Same with the bumpers that used to say mustang gt, they made all of them just say mustang to save a hundred bucks per bumper.
Sounds like a great reason to introduce a “field service campaign”. I believe if the bed rails cannot handle more than 88lbs. without possible structure damage, then that its an obvious engineering mistake. Put the brackets on at the factory!
100% piece of crap flimsy cheap garbage. Hopefully they will do that but doubt it
Exactly...car-makers are getting absolutely ridiculous nowadays. Toyota too, for not using a steel top-hat (which they already had on other Toyotas) for their shock mounts but chose aluminum instead. Wow...
I hope my Jeep Gladiator's bed is able to survive the rigors of being off-road, with a rooftop tent on it or not!
-- BR
Why not make it standard and all but the XL and XLT. Or at least standard on the off road packages.
Thanks Ford! Now customers have to buy extra stuff to use their truck as a truck.
Hardly. They explain in the video its for offroading and having that much hanging over the bed. If you're driving down the road with a rack you'll be fine.
@@Kahless00 then buy a car or suv.
@@CraigG21 then buy a wrangler. Trucks are for working, not offroading. They're also not for sleeping. Anything other than towing and hauling is frippery for soft people or vanity.
@@Kahless00all Ranger trim levels, including the Raptor, are work trucks… right. And work trucks never have 88+ lbs on or above the rails… sure. Bless your uneducated, naive heart ❤️
@@Kahless00 The problem is when you hit a big bump and your bed gets damaged. We shouldn't have to pay more for a finished truck.
What next ? Don't sit on the tailgate if you weigh more than 90lbs?
ROFL.......probably
Exactly
Sitting on the tailgate requires a monthly subscription....
Build from plastic coming soon
nah you just gotta spend $200 & DIY install some actually good hinges for the vehicle lolol
Next thing to come: Tow hitch can only handle 2K lbs., unless you have the frame reinforcement kit installed.....
😂
Naw, we already have that. You are supposed to derate towing based on elevation. I drive around with an altimeter, and only camp on this side of the mountain.
It’s a slap in the face for a company to have their (loyal) customers pay for a mistake they made. The audacity is unbelievable.
It’s not a mistake. It’s cost cutting. Why put one in every truck if they don’t need it? Saves materials as well. You are paying for your use of the truck so I don’t have to if I’m not adding the weight, as a topper or canopy or load rails etc. 😊
Amen!
I completely agree. This should be handled like any other design flaw, Ford needs to do a recall and install the brackets for free.
Yeah, I've got the beef up kit on order. I have to pay for it and I have to pay for the install. Its still better than the issues Toyota is having though.
@@jeffk464 - just watched a video where a Tacoma hit a pothole at a reasonable speed, not too fast or slow and the punched the shock on the passenger side through the pot metal cup holding it in place!! The shocks aren’t maybe valved for TRD Off-road correctly,,,,.
It’s not just off-roady camper guys who are affected by this. Tradesmen with tool/equipment racks at job sites are in the same predicament.
Yes, Andre and Roman talked about exactly that, too.
Especially as this has been known about for at least two years on Thai and South African built models. Unless these beds are imported into the USA, assembled, it is quite odd that Ford did not factory modify these front corners before starting US production. It would be trivial to stiffen those corners at the fabrication and welding stage of production.
I really love the irony of the "Ranger breaks if you dare to use it" video being sponsored by the warranty company that would deny the claim.
Warning: If you use a bed topper for work duty on this Ford Ranger, the bed will break. Bed is only for looks.
Ford Recommends to only use your truck as a commuter or family hauler only.
I wouldn't purchase any of these "specialty trucks like the Raptor and of similar kind. If the truck cannot fulfil the true basic tasks of the truck being hauling and towing then they are worthless in my opinion.
thats the entire point of a truck, this entire thing is just wild and honestly pathetic
friggin junk....as usual
I swear Ford Motor Company is a joke. Quality is Job 1 my ass. This company will do whatever it takes to cut cost . And then who pays for in the long run the customer...
@@garykarczewski6678 The only small work trucks left are the extra cab Tacoma and the extra cab Frontier, all other midsized trucks are lifestyle trucks. If you look around work trucks these days tend to be standard cab full size trucks.
So what happens if you just sit on the bed rails? Are they going to buckle?
Yes. If you’re crazy enough to do it while the truck is moving.
@@ScoobyFermentation On the farm we ride on the bed rails & cross bed toolboxes (which sit on the bed rails) all the time.
I can't believe a truck this expensive is built so flimsy you need to buy extra reinforcements to keep the bed rails straight with a topper over 88lbs.
So much for "Built Ford Tough!"
Toyota Tacos have needed them for years. Reinforce and move on.
@@Gene1969did you see the crap Tacoma blow up its front differential on this channel? It’s great.. I watched it 100 times.
@@Gene1969 You're triggering the Ford "fan boys" lol. 88 lbs. will break the bed. lol
@@Fabwal For all those out there. I am on my 10th year of ownership of a 2011 Ranger and it didn't need reinforcement for the bed. Do better Ford.
Sounds to me like a future class action just waiting to happen. As an average american who has a basic work truck trim level on my truck I fully expect to be able to have a truck box mounted behind the cab spanning the box of the truck that is capable of carrying potentially up to 1000 lbs of tools without any issue. The bed sides should always be designed to be strong enough to carry the max payload capacity of the truck without being overloaded in a worst case scenario without issues for the typical 25-30 year service life of a vehicle. Remember also that if you are hauling a pallet that weighs near the full payload capacity it also needs to be secured to said box tie points and remain that way during normal driving and a potential vehicle accident.
The Ranger has a reputation for cracking beds for a long time in countries such as Australia and South Africa. In South Africa mines don't like them because of this issue.
I had a Toyota Tacoma Crew Cab 4x4 with the composite bed and a topper with full size ladder rack. The composite bed kept coming loose on the frame due to friction from movement between bed and frame. The bolts stayed tight but the composite mounting points would wear-out! I took the truck into the Toyota Service and they wouldn't even look at it! They said to take it back to the guy that installed the topper and ladder rack. In the end I made my own bed reinforcement by tying the ladder rack directly to the frame. Good to go, offroading!
I bought a Gen 2 Tacoma SR5-DLT (Dad's Last Truck) that he ordered in 2009. Since my eldest daughter and I drove it home, I've been adding aftermarket products: RedLine Tuning hood QuickLift kit,; All Pro Off Road's bed stiffener kit (since Dad had installed an extremely nice fiberglass topper), aluminum front skid plate, and HDPE tailgate insert; and recently added a birch BamBed and bed sliders that I finished applying a water base waterproofing sealant on this afternoon. I'm due for my next NHOU frame treatment and dealer service as soon as I can find time to get it going and out of the garage (so the Toyota Technician can check out the LCE Performance Street exhaust header, too). Happy motoring!
I remember hauling hay bales stacked like 10 ft high on my old 87 ranger 2.0 5sp. Heck the back was practically scrapping the ground and your have to hit the brakes to turn and nothing bent or broke.
To install the brackets you have to cut notches in the bed frame to install them. its not just screw them in.
Link?
@@ScoobyFermentation The cut can be done with snips and isn't a big deal. The hardest part of the install is drilling out a few rivets and getting the wheel liner out of the way.
@@jed6211if you can cut it with snips this will be why you need the brackets
Yes, there are videos on TH-cam showing how to do it. It’s not simply bolting a bracket on and, what isn’t generally shown, is that the work, brackets and cut areas need rustproofing before reinstalling the wheel arch liners. I would spray wax everywhere accessible.
So, I see the following hilarious reality in the midsize market: Toyota Tacoma with the super narrow bed that can't haul 4x8 flat and only has 1100 lbs of payload in the double cabs (and 1440 lbs in its highest payload configuration). Now the Ranger can't handle roof racks or a cap without reinforcements. The fact they are both outdone in payload, sheer bed size/capacity (in crew cab versions), and now apparently structural integrity of the bed by the Honda Ridgeline is hilarious. Let's see, the Honda has a 60 inch wide bed with 51 inch wide tailgate, a minimum payload of 1500lbs (max just under 1600 lbs), and can take a cap or racks right from the factory. Way to go Ford and Toyota for building "trucks" that can't out-truck the thing everyone says is not a truck!
I have had a 350 pound camper on my 2017 Ridgeline for over 3 years and often take it on many rough forest roads with no problems. Ford should be ashamed of themselves and embarrassed for allowing this to happen.
Most Rangers in Europe, apart from the coil sprung Raptor, have a 2250 lb payload and many, including myself, make use of that capacity. There is a version that has leaf springs and is rated for only 600lbs but that is branded as the VW Amarok and only on the top ‘Adventura’ trim which has a ‘comfort’ suspension.
Looks like the webpage Andre was showing had a checkbox to include installation at a whopping $224. A far cry from the estimate of $65 Andre was guessing.
Crazy that this is needed in a brand new truck just to put something on the bed rails.
please, someone tell me this isn't true
If the bed is that weak that this bracket is needed, Ford should put them on all Rangers as part of the build process at the factory as necessary strength for a pickup truck! (I would put the brackets on my Ranger even if I didn't plan on putting 88 lbs on the bed rails.)
New trucks are lame.
I just seen a new GMC for a $119000. What a joke.
Your mom is lame
@@secondcreekworkshop3908 your mom is lame.
Agree 💯%
How about the caterpillar truck . Looks like might be a game changer
This was being discussed on the 6G forum before the trucks came out because the braces were required in other markets where the Ranger is sold. I ordered mine right after I got my truck in April before they sold out. It took me 2 hours to install them on my own. You need to drill out some rivets, cut a small piece of steel out of the way, and then have a 1/4 rivet tool to reinstall the rivets at the end. It's DIY if you are a car person and should be sourced out if you are not.
This is a recall situation. All the other Ford truck beds don't need this (as far as I know) so this was an engineering mistake. Adding toppers and racks is an expectation for a lot of truck owners. There will be reasonable weight limits, it's not an F350 after all but 88 lbs. isn't that much. That's a couple e-bikes on bedrail bike racks.
Paid for youtube premium to avoid commercials, Granger said "hold my beer ".
Feel you. Paid for Amazon prime to not have commercials and yet……
@@TFLtruckprime for free shipping first. Tv second. Plus Amazon warned us and we could continue if we wanted or cancel. Apples to oranges.
It's a brilliant solution to a problem that should've never existed.
This is amazing! A pickup truck (I realize it’s not full size) with a bed that won’t handle more than 80# when mounted on top. I’ve had 16 different pickups since the early 1970’s 4 of them bought new. My old clunky Ford Rangers (2) and the older HiLux certainly didn’t have this issue. It must be the low grade tinfoil the manufacturers are using now.
my 95 ranger was an absolute unit. 4wd with a topper. can we just get those back please ford
How embarrassing that they call this a truck.
I got lucky and was able to order my set with my ford points after buying the RR in May. I would have installed them myself but it requires cutting some of the bed supports and drilling out some rivets. Being a structural component I had the dealership install them to remove the possibility of a blame game later if damage occurs .
It was the first set they installed and they didn’t even know they were required for the loads. They did have to have the body shop side do it and the manager said it wasn’t too bad once they got the first side done.
Jesus Christ Ford! Im trying to remain loyal, but with the unreal pricing and now this B/S it's getting hard!
There are four locations on the Ranger rail that require reinforcement (in addition to the bed reinforcement described in this vid). If you buy a GFC camper, they make the reinforcements out of billet aluminum. It’s absurd that Ford is charging for this lower bed reinforcement.
The brackets should be installed from the factory.
What an absolute crock of BS! Camper shells, toppers, tonneau covers, cargo racks, etc. have been around for decades; and Ford for some reason didn't design or build the bed of this truck so that people can use normal truck accessories without needing to modify it?
Flashback! The '79 Scout II required reinforcement of the passenger rear fender end when using the typical aftermarket tire/Jerry Can swing rack. The rack maker did not take any blame for selling it without a reinforcement plate (said the 35" tire was not OEM design)...and IH had put the spare inside (so, not their fault). It was an easy fix with a steel plate bend to a 90' and drilled, but cracks around the taillight were inevitable without the fix. At least Ford recognizes the problem.
I remember this.
This sounds like an after-thought on Ford's part. "Oops.... we gave it a weak spot, well, we'll just sell a fix it kit". Funny how people say my Ridgeline isn't as strong as a body on frame vehicle. Well at least it won't break when I put more than 100lbs on the rails.
Do I need to install supports under the drivers seat so I don’t fall through
🤣
LOL.....
I need seats with Lumlard lower fat back support too.
How ridiculous is this? I mean, has any truck ever needed this? There are bedcovers that weigh more than 88lbs. ! What's next? You can't tow a trailer above 2000lbs unless you get a frame reinforcement?
It's pretty common to add bed stiffeners to Tacomas with the composite bed. It's basically the same idea. There's not enough structure in the bed sides, and they can bend with heavy toppers off road.
At current prices I should not have to buy a bracket to prevent my truck from collapsing.
This sounds like something that Ford should install on ALL of their Ranger models...
So you get 2 people in your truck bed and you sit on the sides and fold your truck bed?
Hahaha
If you’re moving
@@ScoobyFermentation Thats actually ridiculous.
$11k for that topper is insane😂😂😂😂
Lol yeah little overpriced
but you get a FREE $170 bracket
Those pieces should be standard equipment, not an add on part
I forsee a lawsuit incoming, when the beds break and don't get covered under warranty, but yet the parts were not available.
At that weight limit, you really cannot put anything on the bed rail without this. They must think nobody is going to use the trucks as a truck. Ford tough…new Ford, not enough.
I am sure the dealership isn’t telling you this when you are standing on the lot looking at these Rangers. Even you guys said you didn’t know and you are in the car business.
This is a huge WTF why isn’t this just standard what a money grab shame on you ford
Payload of 1500+, but you need reinforcement for a topper of any kind over 100 lbs. 🤔
Thanks for the information! I DID NOT KNOW I could buy a new truck from my local dealership! Your awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Probably will end up being yet another Ford recall. They can't even keep the parts in stock and you have to cut out a notch in the metal to install this brace. Asking your customers to do this to make the truck as functional as previous Rangers is ridiculous.
Oh you want a usable .truck bed? That option is extra but not available at this time 😂
Incredible! So the truck can't be used as a ............... truck. Shame on Ford.
This sounds a lot like a fix for a design flaw, and it should be completely free.
100% Correct!
I bought a new 2009 Ranger and had it for 14 years, great truck. I bought a new 2023 Tacoma, kept it for a year. Traded it in a year later for a left over 2023 Gladiator. The Gladiator is a much better truck than the Tacoma. I’m glad I made the change. World of difference between the two vehicles. 😊
$65 For installation? I would think that would be at least two book-hours at the dealer: one for diagnostic and removal of the wheel-well liner, and one for installation of the brackets. $125 per hour, last I heard. Maybe another rate for accessory installation?
@@Romans_ToupeeThanks! That sounds about right. Ridiculous (IMO), given what it is, but right.
Wheel well liners on a Ford? Are you serious? Ford is so f’n cheap, doubtful it will have them.
They always play down prices from big manufacturers in order to not piss em off lol ford won't change your oil for 65 bucks no less install anything on your truck 224 sounds feasible labor rates in a garage are about 160 an hr nowadays
Thank you for the information, definitely a story worth following. It would seem logical to consider that it could be an issue from 2019 forward. Trust you gents will get more info for us, thanks again.
Wow. This should be a free campaign and included on all new trucks from the factory. Also time for TFL to loan to a fab shop who can mock up and build a beefier reinforcement option. First gen Raptor F150 had a weak frame and first gen Raptor Ranger has a weak bed.
Or just go with a Land Cruiser 79 with huge bed capacity.
This is the same thing RAM ran into with the multifunction tailgate. Hopefully these brackets are added from the factory for model year ‘25.
What about 19-23 rangers. I’ve seen many with toppers. Did they make the bed stronger on the last gen??
Had a Leer cap on my wife's 2020 Ranger for 4 years now zero problems and it definitely weighs a lot more than 88 lbs. Must just be the new ones.
My 2019 Ranger has had an ARE canopy on it for 5 years. I have not seen any issues.🤞🤞🤞🤞
The 2024 was a redesign. Sounds like they shaved a few pennies of steel out of the bedrails and then discovered their "oopsie".
i've seen tons of tacomas using brackets to stiffen the bed, and thought it was stupid that the bed wasn't good enough from the factory. This is no different, this should be fixed from the factory, people shouldn't have to get an accessory to install an accessory!
Unbelievable! But look: it has a giant touchscreen!
Nice! Now ford will see you an accessory so you can use your truck as a truck. Seems like this should be a recall.
Never heard of this sort of thing, this is great info to know! I went to the Ford site to configure a Ranger and couldn’t find this reinforcement kit to add to a build. Unless I was doing something wrong on the configuration it ain’t there. This is bad on Ford because without you guys telling us this no one would know about this!
The new Toyota Tacoma doesn't even have frame mounted bump stops.. The new Ranger you can't even mount a bed accessory without breaking the truck or paying $200! They make you pay for options that were standard on the previous generations... TRIMFLATION WOOHOO 🎉🙌
I remember the days of my 88' Ranger. Me and my friends could sit on the bed rails without compromising the trucks structural integrity!
@TFL I think this answers the question to one of your video thumbnails..... yes older trucks are better than new ones
Some chevy Colorado's beds have cracked off roading while having bed racks and rooftop tents installed.
Watch "downtime lost" latest video...he talks about how his bed has cracked and others have had similar issue.
Most interstate highways might qualify as off road, given how bad some roads are nowdays.
The Colorado’s need one on the frame 😂
I have bought toppers for every truck Ive owned including 94 ranger, 01 ranger, 07 f150, 19 f250. I have been considering a midsize truck and as a ford guy ive been holding out for a 2.7 ranger or a 2025 frontier. This issue puts another checkmark in nissans favor.
How about Ford just installs these at the factory since they obviously messed up.
they are included if you buy a hard top from factory. Mine had the brackets from factory (Germany).
Video Needed: Sleeping in the camper WHILE offroading :D
If you buy the ARB canopy it comes with strengthening braces that have to be fitted to stop thos happening.
I told you guys about 3 weeks ago on one of your other threads about this issue🤔
Hey guys, didn't hear it mentioned in the video but Ford does have a Customer Satisfaction Program for this kit on certain Rangers.
The program is called 23P22 and is for 2024 Rangers build between January 4th-September 30th (it currently incorrectly says jan 4th-july 15th) at the Michigan plant, to have the kit installed for free/$169 Refund to the customer.
The program is only open through Septemper 30th, 2025.
If you need the kit, you can call any local ford dealer service department, give them your VIN, and they can tell you if your vehicle is under this program.
Now you need to buy an accessory kit to turn your truck into a truck?!?!
Now that’s progress!
Why didn't they just reinforce it properly from the factory?
100% Correct!
Isn’t driving on a Los Angeles freeway basically driving off-road?
😂
Sitting on tailgate will be a subscription service. 😂😂
Odd issue. Regularly overloaded payload with rolls of industrial electrical cable and abused my 2017 ranger and regularly drove the crap out of it. Zero issues.
Beat ya by a few years. Did the same with a 1983 Ford Ranger 2wd 2.0L 4 speed. Overloaded it all the time with crap and it just took it with no problems.
On the bed rails, in the bed, on the roof, hangin' out the back, didn't even dent much!
Like they say, Don't Make Em' Like They Used To!
My fully loaded top level f150 I bought new in 2004 cost 30k exactly. 20 years later a ranger costs twice as much and can’t handle 89 lbs on the bed rails
I have a ladder rack bolted to my truck (Ram) to haul 3 kayaks. Total weight is close to 300lbs. I can't believe the ranger can handle so little.
Thanks gents. Any Intel on Ford offering a 6 foot bed in future Rangers?
The Frontier has the strongest beds/frames and always have. Look up why the 90's trucks are called "hardbody". Andre said he hasn't heard of GM having issues, but their frames are notorious for folding with trailers as light as 1500 lb. I believe adding a camper/topper to a GM truck voids the frame warranty.
This is like the heavy duty chevys that you have to put extra bracing on the frame that chevy sells to run a snow plow
Thank you this was a surprise for me. I want to install a rack and now I have to wait to won’t break my truck. That sucks.
Feels like ford should just eat this one and allow anyone that wants to go to a Ford dealership and have it installed at their expense. 88lbs? Crazy
2001 Silverado 2500 and 3500 had an issue similar to this. Was an engineering over site. The bed rails would start to cave in if you had a tool box etc installed. Not enough support in the front corners of the bed
So you buy a $60,000++ ranger Raptor and then have to buy $170 piece to reinforce your bed. Cool. (😩🤬)
LOL...
My sister has had a rack and roof top tent on her tub for over 1 year and she didn’t brace it, no problem
6.5' fiberglass camper shell made for a 90's full size truck is around 190lbs. Add about half the weight of a 86lb canoe (other half on the cab) and my 27yo bed has no problems... this is with mild off roading... i wonder what manufacturers consider to be "off roading?"
I know I'm old and have owned three 70 vintage Ford trucks. It would appear that Ford in there quest to save weight (money) have forgotten " Ford Tough". Just not impressed with the manufacturer.
F. Caruso in Arizona
I assume this also includes cross bed toolboxes since they sit on the bed rails.
The guy CURRENTLY sleeping in his roof top tent watching this videos face 😮😅
I am surprised that US built Ranger beds have not been factory modified for this issue. It has been known about and the brackets available in most of the rest of the world for about two years. Why they do not make those front corners stronger at the production stage, especially after this time scale and very especially for a new production plant in the USA, beats me. It’s ridiculous. FYI I have an 18 month old South African built Ranger twin-turbo-diesel ‘Wildtrak’ and knew about this recommended modification before I bought it. There are videos on TH-cam showing the installation and it is not quite straightforward.
Ordered my brackets beginning of may and still don't have the damn things!!!!
So much for carrying my kayaks on my trip September long weekend!
Tundra and tacomas always have the aftermarket product of “bed stiffener”
I thought Ford was taking the piss here in Australia when I heard about these reinforcement brackets needed to be installed.
Inspires allot of confidence in this vehicle lol
Wow...what has happened to FORD. Why is this not standard?
Modern “trucks” are commuter cars, hence additional parts needed to use them as a truck.
Sad but true.
Composite or lightweight aluminum is not equal to steel! This being said I am willing to bet the same bracing needs to be added to the full size truck.
I don’t think there is any equivalent necessary for F-Series trucks.
I heard about brackets for the Tacoma composite bed to prevent stress cracks. As a kid, my dad had a 1980s Chev, and he would put a stock rack into the stake pockets and carry a cow or or horse on the back. I know trucks have changed a lot over the years, but modern trucks seem more like SUVs than trucks designed for hauling and towing.
Thanks for sharing!!