I'm really surprised these multi-button mice aren't mentioned more for non-gaming usages. I have mine programmed for cut, copy, paste, Enter, Undo, Redo and a couple of common shortcuts. It's been life-changing for me.
@@kova_tech Do you use one of these? I had the L with the side panel of buttons for 3 years but it's starting to be weird with the clicks and haven't found a single mouse that has consistently good reviews. The Hyperspeed is on its way but I'm nervous about reliability.
One thing i noticed immediately was that the v2pro was incredibly heavy which is important depending on your playstyle but the mouse feels very premium so im going to keep it
I don’t play any MMOs, and I still love this type of mouse. The buttons on the side usually default to the numbers at the top of your keyboard. The buttons being so close together makes it easy to access an item at the end of my hotbar, without having to reach my hand across the keyboard. Not to mention the fact that you can change them to do basically anything, so there’s very little limitation on uses for these mice. Not just MMOs. These are honestly my favorite kind of mouse for any use.
Important note: the detachable sides become faulty after a few months and have bad connection sometimes, its the reason to buy the hyperspeed over the pro
Perfect comparison, very informative. For me the free scroll was a deal breaker (long time Logitech user), so I returned my v2 Pro and decided to fix switches in my G604. It's a pity Naga Hyperspeed doesn't have 6-button version. I prefer to have some thumb rest instead of just buttons on the side.
I wish Naga added two more side buttons, for the ring/pinky fingers so we could activate the Hypershift functionality more easily. It is extremely useful but a little hard to access in Naga mice, compared to other Razer mice which have right-side buttons Another great idea would be to have a second Hypershift profile accessible through the software (Standard, Hypershift-1, Hypershift-2) for greater customisation.
Another thing I think is worth mentioning is the weight of each mouse. Without the battery the Hyperspeed is 59g and about 95g with the battery. Ofc you'd only use it with the battery but depending on the battery you use will affect the weight. (lithium vs alka) & the V2 Pro is 134g So pretty significant weight diff. I got the hyperspeed because I wanted a lot of buttons with a lighter weight and wireless. Though I do hate that it misses out a lot of features the pro has. Logitech G600 is still superior to me and I'm hoping they one day release a new wireless version, but till then I swap between G600 & hyperspeed based on what I'm doing. & I bought the steelseries aerox 9 thinking it was everything I wanted and it's the worst mouse ever made IMO.
@@z.d.vision It's literally un-useable. The software/drivers also make me blue screen every time I tried to use the mouse. I wish I returned it when I could. Idk why they put honeycomb where peoples fingers lie. I also don't think they playtested this mouse with literally anyone they just made it. I can't imagine the aerox 9 being anyones everyday mouse.
The Hyperspeed buttons were way more sensitive. I found myself accidentally pressing some of the side buttons and the right click on accident way too frequent. I returned it and the bought the Naga v2 Pro and the buttons are definitely not as sensitive.
The Pro has them too, but they are placed below the scroll wheel, just like the previous version of the Naga. The Hyperspeed's buttons are moved over to the left like that because the area below the scroll wheel has been taken by the 'free-scroll' toggle button.
@@alfrenzbongcodin216 i have them rebound to something else. I have loved the placement of those since original naga and hated the change to have the under scroll wheel. Also I need my 12 buttons on the side. I only buy this for WoW
Razer Naga v2 Pro scroll seems like a deal breaker. Not because it doesn't has free-scroll but because many reviews said the scrolling is not accurate. Also, I have been using G700s for years now. I cannot imagine having a limit of 5 profiles and the need to switch them manually each time and the software does not seems to have macros options for keys. I thought Logitech software was bad, until I look at others... lol Thanks for the great review and comparison!
The original pro and the V2 hyperspeed are the same price, and the hyper scroll was the thing that made me decide to get the hyperspeed. My previous mouse before my current one had it and I loved it and I miss it. I only need six side buttons so the original pro seemed appealing because it has a side plate with only six thumb buttons, but I've been using the 12 button side plate for so long that I am fully accustomed to it and there's no need to move to fewer buttons. I actually have eight of them mapped, but I rarely use the extra two, but they are still nice to have And I might think of something else I want so it makes more sense to just keep using the 12 button configuration.
Pretty sure the original Pro is still on sale cheaper than the V2 hyperspeed if anyone wants the interchangeable side plates. I've had mine for about a week and I really like it so far.
I am a designer and I have something similar and I have the buttons set up to all my shortcuts, for it’s life changing. I don’t have to use the keyboard shortcuts and it makes everything so much easier , it does make a difference, huge difference.
I'd recommend the Naga V2 Pro if you play different games but note the side panel senser will give out, for my Naga Pro it lasted 4 years and gave out last night while playing WoW so i had to get the Naga v2 this morning
I think the razer naga pro, the old one is also a great choice for those who are up to picking the hyperspeed, yeah it has only microusb, but it is better than the hyperspeed in literlally every point and is about the sam price and for that you get much more with the old naga pro
Why doesn't anyone ever mention the difference that the Hyperspeed has a whole extra button? Also, is this indicating that the only way to change profiles on the Hyperspeed is literally to go and reprogram each button everytime you want to switch games? Or did he intend to say it only has one on-board profile?
What I dislike about the naga v1 pro or naga pro is that when the battery starts getting low it won't respond to its programming. I also disabled the low battery desktop warning because it kept crashing my computer. I was considering getting the v2 pro but the HyperSpeed sounds about right for me.
why tf do companies only allow 1 profile on a £100 mouse, it makes no sense to me and as that's the only feature I want out of all the extras on the v2 I can't warrant an extra £80 to be able to use 5 profiles. Absolutely crazy
I was only looking at the Hyperspeed because of the buttons you didn't mention, but all those drawbacks make me want to keep my current mouse until Razer makes a Pro with the two buttons- or at least one.
I agree. I wonder why the little finger rest is made with so much care, but the thumb is neglected. If the laser combines naga with g604 thumbrest and metal scrolls, it will create the best mouse on the ground, but that won't happen.. 😞
Not sure if its just me, but I have had the pro for couple years and the buttons don't always input when you press them on the side of the mouse. Kind of garbage really, I have to take the panel off and place it back on mid encounters.
For me personally i really miss when the naga had the 2 buttons to the left of the left click, ontop of that the free scroll wheel is really good for a specific game i play
In my opinion, the Pro V2 sounds WAY BETTER than the Hyperspeed V2. My only complain about it is that it lacks those two extra side buttons near the left click button that the other mouse has Personally, the ability to customise the feeling of the scroll wheel is way more important than the free-scroll. I have a free-scrolling mouse and I don’t really need it. Like, yeah, sometimes it can save you a lot of time when scrolling through websites and long documents, but most of the times you don’t want to go that fast. On the other hand, the physical sensation of the scroll wheel is really important to me. It might be because I have very sensitive touch, but the way it feels can either make me very uncomfortable or very joyful. Some scroll wheels are painful after a while
I have seen a lot of reviews state that none of the settings for the pro v2 feel "correct" and that even at standard setting you can't get the page to scroll down with each tick... also it is just another thing to malfunction as well. the pro v2 does have the 2 buttons that the hyperspeed has just located below the scroll wheel. I ordered the hyperspeed. the 100 dollars cheaper makes me feel it is worth a try. I have had a naga pro for 2 years and literally never swap sides. I just use a different mouse entire for shooter. the naga is too clunky and bulky.
You mentioned only 1 profile can be saved for the hyperspeed. Does it mean it actually has onboard memory and can be connected to a work laptop and won't lose bindings?
It's a good question. I have Razer Naga v2 Hyperspeed and Razer Naga Trinity Pro (not v2). The second one has onboard memory to store macros (e.g. entering a sophisticated password you can't remember (don't do this 😉). The first one has not. If I turn off Razer Synapse then Trinity continue to work with all saved macros and rebinds. It's not the case for Hyperspeed. All rebinds reseted to factory defaults. Hyperspeed demonstrates the same behaviour when connected to another device. So it seems I need Razer Synapse logged in and it's cloud sync active on both devices to have multiple profiles for my Razer Naga v2 Hyperspeed.
I actually own the hyperspeed naga and you can save settings to it, but only on the default profile as there isn't multiple profiles. After setting up the mouse in Synapse the settings stay the same after uninstalling synapse.
Getting free scroll on mouses is like going from a hdd to an ssd the first time I got a g502 and used it I couldn't go back. Also the two extra buttons are amazing for navigating the party member list as a healer. I think the hyperspeed is the best for mmos because of the free scroll for scrolling through text or zooming out really quickly to see raid mechanics if your camera wasn't for some reason. The Naga V2 Pro is nice, but when it comes to mmos hyperspeed is a great mouse for raiding and navigating a party member list, and when I play fps games I don't use a mmo mouse anyways because they are to heavy. I prefer heavy mouses for mmos, but lighter/mid weight mouses for fps games etc as I only usually require the two buttons on the side.
instabuy for me if they put the 2 small left click buttons on v2 pro -_- using my naga pro, i miss the infinite scroll and 2 left click side buttons from G604. why they gotta remove those side buttons on v2 pro -__- who are the people deciding on such designs. 🤦♂
Unfortunately free scroll is so ingrained into my muscle memory that I can't use mice without it anymore, it's just too convenient/useful for me. And too many games don't support the Windows middle-click software scroll or Page Up/Down inputs so those aren't proper alternatives either. I wish all gaming mice had free scroll, and it seems weird they'd not have that function on the more expensive v2 Pro when the v2 Hyperspeed has it.
I have the Razer Naga Trinity (Wired) and looking to purchase one of these. I only use the 12 buttons, but I like the flexibility of the Trinity. Also, the Naga Trinity I currently have (literally my 4th one), I run into the double click issue every single time. That's the reason why I am looking to purchase a new one . I hope none of these have that problem.
I had the same double clicking issue with the trinity so i got the v1 naga pro last year with the new optical switches. It seems to be holding up until now without any double clicking issues but the detachable side 12 button panel can stop responding sometimes until u unplug/replug the mice. I wish they made the v2 hyperspeed with the new gen 3 optical switch then it will have been the perfect mmo mice.
So I didn't do my due diligence And purchased a hyperspeed to replace my wired Naga that was wearing out I'm really mad that a mouse in 2024 is sold with non rechargeable batteries I really wanted to like the hyperspeed with the 2 top buttons on the index finger as apposed to the top of the mouse and the price today on Amazon is about equal for each one
Nah bro. I had this and I returned it for a red dragon mouse. The side buttons just dont sit well for my thumbs. Felt like a chore reaching for the last 2 rows of buttons. I tested the logitech g604, it had a better shape but it lacked more buttons for my needs. Got the red dreagon m913 impact elite and i was impressed by the shape and reachability of the side buttons. Sure, it feels cheap because of the price and the materials used but if u prioritize shape and button placement, then you're good.
What's your experience been with the reddragon after 6 months? I came close to getting it but the reviews talking about how cheap it felt waived me off.
Its kinda funny u ignore the biggest reason for me to buy the hyperspeed eventhough i would play 300 if to pro had this: the the 2 extra buttons on the front which are cruical for mmo pvp and the sole reason i still buy use one of the first nagas that still had those up until now
Yeah same for me. The two extra buttons are great for healers who want the same functions as controller users on ffxiv which is to scroll through the party list without having to click them physically especially useful when trying to do alliance raids and clicking alliance members to raise them it allows a snappy transition between clicking alliance members and up and down arrows for the main party. Also free scroll is a huge thing for me be it scrolling through walls of text in the chat box or scrolling to view ingame achievements and it's also extremely helpful for me when reading articles online. Ever since the g502 I cannot go back to a mouse without free scroll I hate the feeling of it clicking when I scroll.
REALLY surprised this isnt talked about more. Also the weight of the hyper is so much better. I had both and tbh I wound up liking the hyperspeed more, as I like having lighter mice.
Excellent review!! Covered everything!! Just wondering for the V2Pro, does the scroll wheel have default settings? i really don't wanna h ave to configure that lol. Also when you covered battery life you didn't say how long the V2Pro lasts per charge?
I prefer the 2 buttons under the scroll wheel to be used for keybinds and not doing that free spin scroll shit thats never useful. I know they got the buttons on left click but those are atrociously placed
Soo.. dumb question.. I had the Razer Naga Trinity before and it's broken and I'm thinking about getting the Naga v2 hyperspeed, but can you notice the latency in FPS games? And which one has better latency? The websites I clicked on were saying different things
I really wanted to get the Hyperspeed V2 but why have it with replaceable battery but at same time no wired connection. Replaceable batteries are so outdated.
It lasts longer than the rechargeable battery and you dont need to wait for it to charge if you forget to charge the other one. After two years of heavy use rechargeable batteries die a lot faster where the other mouse will never have that issue, I think its fine. Just wish the hpyerspeed also had the optical switches, cant trust mechanical ones anymore seems all too often they dont register a click or double click, or if you have click held down it acts like you released it.
Can you use Nv2Pro and a Razer keyboard with the one usb dongle like you can with the Nv2 Hyperspeed? Nv2Pro uses Hyperspeed but it isn't advertised so I don't know if you can connect two devices on one USB.
@@kova_tech I only have use for the 12 button setup. And I'd welcome having multiple profiles. If there's a version with just the mmo keys along with multiple profiles, I'll go with that version. Can't spend extra for something I don't have use for 😁. The G600 has spoiled me too much 😂 Razer is intriguing me because of the wireless factor. And don't stop making contents like this.
Anyone managed to utilize the supposed single onboard profile for the v2 hyperspeed? There is no onboard profile button at all, and all bindings return to default the moment synapse is closed. Specifically navigate back and forward on wheel tillt (named mouse 4 and 5 in synapse) and thumb buttons remapped to numpad. None of these say they require synapse (other things do).
I recently bought this mouse (actually yesterday xD) and generally there's no button for saving in on-board memory. BUT, i havent added new profiles, used the one synapse made, and when i saved all my bindings, everything was on mice. I checked by killing all razer processes, and all macros did work (maybe not ones that are flagged that they will not be saved on memory and u need synapse for them to work). Maybe u should reinstall synapse, reset mice and try my approach. For me also lack of on-board memory is deal-breaker thats why i made sure this one have memory for profiles, and one profile with hypershift is plenty to have all gaming and work macros There's possibility that using only 1 macro which cannot be saved on on-board memory is ruining this memory, today ill make some tests with my work laptop to make sure its saved Edit: i have macro on mouse and everything works great on other computer without Synapse software (excluding this one recorded macro ofc), it works on both dongle and BT
Do not buy the v2 pro... it is fairly common for the side panels to fail and in which case you can not buy a replacement part from razer, and suddenly, you own a perfectly functional paper weight.
I used to have a Naga Chroma, sadly had the side buttons give up on me, sooo got it RMA'd and got a Trinity back from Razer. Sadly, the left and right mouse button started to get double click issues, but right after the warranty went brrrr. Was hoping there was gonna be a budget wireless Naga coming any time soon, but without the switchable side plates, since my Trinity also had a lot of connectivity issues, and I don't feel like trying that again. Doesn't seem like Razer is up to doing that though, since 110 bucks isn't even close to the 70 bucks that I paid back in 2016, just for a wireless version of it, without the lights. Heck no :I
The optical switches have a MUCH greater lifetime and have pretty much eliminated the 'double click' issue. As far as side plate connectivity goes, it's just a matter of cleaning the contacts every so often. Maybe once every few months I will have some connectivity issues, which are instantly fixed by cleaning the contacts on the mouse and side plate, after whiich it will work flawlessly for another few months.
Hello. Can I save horizontal scroll binding into on-board memory on any of theese mice? Now I have Razer naga pro v1 and I can't do this, while almost any other bindings can be saved into onboard memory.
A very good way to over come it is to just create a macro to your desired key, which does 2 commands: 1) middle click, 2) right arrow key (for right-side scrolling) and vice versa for left. This is the only way i seem to have gotten around this.
I'd get the pro just for the two side buttons which is a huge deal to be honest. And I alo question why there's no wired version of the two side buttons? That way no need for recharging.
are the ergonomics the same as the original naga? my OG naga still works but the shape of the mouse (mainly how it makes my pointer sit) tends to give me a fatigue feel in my pointer I don't get from my other mice (such as my viper ultimate)
Unfortunately no they're not I'm still having to use my Molten Naga due to the shape being way too wide it's ashame Razer can't just release a Naga "classic"
@@HollowRick for me that may be a good thing lol, I'm hoping the ergonomics changed as my OG causes me fatigue in my pointer finger as it positions it kind of weird
I got the V2 pro and it's scroll wheel died within 2 months. I've gotten wired naga that lasted years, the inconsistency in build quality is really frustrating with razer.
it should be said that the plates are a big point of failure. which you really dont wanna add more of on a razer product, also useless, no one buys a naga without using 12 buttons
I'd say the balance is yet again gone, I have bought razer naga mice since 2014 when my Mad Cats mouse gave out. The 3 naga mice I have bought never were more than 90 euro/dollar and they are not wireless.. I think it is a stupid thing to get rid of the rgb in the hyperspeed, and don't give all the other options to the mouse that the pro have, and put like 90 dollars on top of the price for the pro. that is double the price for a naga then it used to be. Don't tell me bluetooth is THAT expensive. Still I have never use the other switchable knobs other than the 12 knob one. If they would not be so utterly foolish and sell the mouse with 3 of them and ask a insane amount of money for it, maybe they could offer it for a reasonable price!!
they both suck, imagine being in a competitive situation and there is a break long enough for you to grab a drink, your mouse will go to sleep in less then 10 seconds, and will take about 5 seconds to turn on.. this will happen every time. 4/10 one of the worst mice I have ever used.. stick with a g600
well explained NAGA mouse review. i bought the wrong naga from military exchange , the naga hyperspeed is going for $99.99.... i want the USB type C charging feature ... also best buy is having naga pro v2 on sale $99.99
Kind of madge, the v2 hyperspeed is significantly better for MMOs because of the placement of those 1 extra buttons. But I would of preffered a rechargeable one. I don't know why companies shoot themselves in the foot taking one step forward and two back.
Replaceable batteries is by far best option for mouse. You just go buy eneloop with a charger and swap them once a month if not two. And when it dies what occurs way too later than with any internal battery you just get it out of order and place a new one instead of searching chinese sites who sell you that specific designed battery which razer loves too much
@@rosst2000 The battery in the naga pro is a normal lithium battery, connector is not proprietary. I replaced it with a smaller battery for a good 17g weight reduction.
so stupid how they do mouses... stupid for me, smart for they wallet... Razer naga v2 PRO should be with side panels but you could chose with one panel u want i would pick 3x 12 buttions panel obviously someone else could pick different configuration also those extra 2 buttions on left mouse buttion should be also added to v2 pro than that mouse could be perfect... BT connections etc could be added extra if you want but Cable is the only thing i trust :P
so these wont have 4000Hz polling rate....why would they not put that in these, they are expensive already..... why work on the scroll wheel no one wants that!! lol
In what world would you use 4k polling rate on an MMO? Even if you play shooters, you'd be insane to use either one of these as they are > 120grams. Also, are you running at least a 240hz monitor and getting 240 frames in an mmo/fps to take advantage of 4k polling rate that already sees small benefits at the detriment of Batter Life?
From my experience i can tell u, this is 100% a piece of shit. I had the naga pro and the wireless feature didnt work anymore after 2 weeks, it just didnt connect anymore
You have to remember that you don't really need to manually change profiles, because razer synapse can detect what game you are playing and change the profile accordingly, also reducing the amount of buttons on the side doesn't make it better for fps, it just removes functionality. Saying that the v2 hyperspeed is only good for MMO gamers on a budget is so wrong when you think about the fact that the v2 hyperspeed is so much cheaper and the only things you are losing are a stupid gimmick that just takes away buttons and some better switches.
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I'm really surprised these multi-button mice aren't mentioned more for non-gaming usages. I have mine programmed for cut, copy, paste, Enter, Undo, Redo and a couple of common shortcuts. It's been life-changing for me.
That's awesome! Yeah I'm such a hot key person with my mice and keyboards as well. I feel like these MMO mice are perfect for productivity boosts!
@@kova_tech Do you use one of these? I had the L with the side panel of buttons for 3 years but it's starting to be weird with the clicks and haven't found a single mouse that has consistently good reviews. The Hyperspeed is on its way but I'm nervous about reliability.
I have sinuvitis in my wrists, and its actually impossible for me to work without very good mouses. Naga is my go to for work 😂
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One thing i noticed immediately was that the v2pro was incredibly heavy which is important depending on your playstyle but the mouse feels very premium so im going to keep it
I don’t play any MMOs, and I still love this type of mouse. The buttons on the side usually default to the numbers at the top of your keyboard. The buttons being so close together makes it easy to access an item at the end of my hotbar, without having to reach my hand across the keyboard. Not to mention the fact that you can change them to do basically anything, so there’s very little limitation on uses for these mice. Not just MMOs. These are honestly my favorite kind of mouse for any use.
Important note: the detachable sides become faulty after a few months and have bad connection sometimes, its the reason to buy the hyperspeed over the pro
That is very true it happens to me with my pro version
damn they never fixed that. Had the same isue with my naga trinity I bought in 2017
So very true, I bought my trinity and I think after a year of switching from sides the 12 button started to not work
I just had to go buy a Naga V2 because I had my Naga V2 Pro for 4 years and the side plate stopped registering last night.
@@jesus74601 Maybe I'm just switching the sides more often
Perfect comparison, very informative. For me the free scroll was a deal breaker (long time Logitech user), so I returned my v2 Pro and decided to fix switches in my G604. It's a pity Naga Hyperspeed doesn't have 6-button version. I prefer to have some thumb rest instead of just buttons on the side.
I love the scroll detail introduced in this video! THANKS
I wish Naga added two more side buttons, for the ring/pinky fingers so we could activate the Hypershift functionality more easily. It is extremely useful but a little hard to access in Naga mice, compared to other Razer mice which have right-side buttons
Another great idea would be to have a second Hypershift profile accessible through the software (Standard, Hypershift-1, Hypershift-2) for greater customisation.
I miss the G600 everyday.
That third mouse button was so nice to use
The two extra buttons are being able to click the scroll wheel left and right 👍switch one of those to hypershift
Another thing I think is worth mentioning is the weight of each mouse.
Without the battery the Hyperspeed is 59g and about 95g with the battery. Ofc you'd only use it with the battery but depending on the battery you use will affect the weight. (lithium vs alka)
& the V2 Pro is 134g
So pretty significant weight diff. I got the hyperspeed because I wanted a lot of buttons with a lighter weight and wireless. Though I do hate that it misses out a lot of features the pro has.
Logitech G600 is still superior to me and I'm hoping they one day release a new wireless version, but till then I swap between G600 & hyperspeed based on what I'm doing.
& I bought the steelseries aerox 9 thinking it was everything I wanted and it's the worst mouse ever made IMO.
I just unpacked my aerox 9 with the same hope and im devestated how ergonomically fucked it is in all the ways..
@@z.d.vision It's literally un-useable. The software/drivers also make me blue screen every time I tried to use the mouse. I wish I returned it when I could.
Idk why they put honeycomb where peoples fingers lie. I also don't think they playtested this mouse with literally anyone they just made it. I can't imagine the aerox 9 being anyones everyday mouse.
Google says it’s 95 grams excluding a battery , so wirh it it’s probably the same
@@tatedoh google lied. WIthout a battery is 59g from their website.
@@Kzi razer lied, it’s a typo. It’s 95
The Hyperspeed buttons were way more sensitive. I found myself accidentally pressing some of the side buttons and the right click on accident way too frequent. I returned it and the bought the Naga v2 Pro and the buttons are definitely not as sensitive.
But as i know the battery life Naga v2 Pro is 25-30% less then Naga v2 Hyperspeed. That fact can be important ))
Did you forget about the 2 buttons on the left side the Hyperspeed has? Don't see them on the Pro...
The Pro has them too, but they are placed below the scroll wheel, just like the previous version of the Naga.
The Hyperspeed's buttons are moved over to the left like that because the area below the scroll wheel has been taken by the 'free-scroll' toggle button.
@@arstulex also failed to mention the left and right scroll presses
Literally the placement of those 2 buttons will make me go for V2 rather than pro...
@@MrKa52a if u need dpi buttons, ur prolly not intensive on mmo, the deathadder v2 hyperspeed might be better and also cheaper
@@alfrenzbongcodin216 i have them rebound to something else. I have loved the placement of those since original naga and hated the change to have the under scroll wheel. Also I need my 12 buttons on the side. I only buy this for WoW
Razer Naga v2 Pro scroll seems like a deal breaker. Not because it doesn't has free-scroll but because many reviews said the scrolling is not accurate.
Also, I have been using G700s for years now. I cannot imagine having a limit of 5 profiles and the need to switch them manually each time and the software does not seems to have macros options for keys.
I thought Logitech software was bad, until I look at others... lol
Thanks for the great review and comparison!
wrong. 5 profiles are only onboard. you can do all profiles you want in the software and synapse has macro management.
Finally gonna upgrade from the Naga 2012, best mice i've ever had. But its showing its age
surprised if all the keys still works for you!! a couple of mine died years ago :( rocking the g600 and a v2 HS now
Those two buttons being on the left click instead of behind the scroll wheel is huge for shooters.. I wish the pro had that..
The original pro and the V2 hyperspeed are the same price, and the hyper scroll was the thing that made me decide to get the hyperspeed. My previous mouse before my current one had it and I loved it and I miss it. I only need six side buttons so the original pro seemed appealing because it has a side plate with only six thumb buttons, but I've been using the 12 button side plate for so long that I am fully accustomed to it and there's no need to move to fewer buttons. I actually have eight of them mapped, but I rarely use the extra two, but they are still nice to have And I might think of something else I want so it makes more sense to just keep using the 12 button configuration.
The free scroll and extra side buttons make the hyperspeed one SO much better for me, but MANNNNN it sucks it's battery only
Pretty sure the original Pro is still on sale cheaper than the V2 hyperspeed if anyone wants the interchangeable side plates. I've had mine for about a week and I really like it so far.
I am a designer and I have something similar and I have the buttons set up to all my shortcuts, for it’s life changing. I don’t have to use the keyboard shortcuts and it makes everything so much easier , it does make a difference, huge difference.
I'd recommend the Naga V2 Pro if you play different games but note the side panel senser will give out, for my Naga Pro it lasted 4 years and gave out last night while playing WoW so i had to get the Naga v2 this morning
I think the razer naga pro, the old one is also a great choice for those who are up to picking the hyperspeed, yeah it has only microusb, but it is better than the hyperspeed in literlally every point and is about the sam price and for that you get much more with the old naga pro
Articulate and fairly concise! Thanks for the comparisons 😁…will most likely be going with v2 hyperspeed
Why doesn't anyone ever mention the difference that the Hyperspeed has a whole extra button? Also, is this indicating that the only way to change profiles on the Hyperspeed is literally to go and reprogram each button everytime you want to switch games? Or did he intend to say it only has one on-board profile?
and missing 2 buttons near main click which I found very useful in mmo's
What I dislike about the naga v1 pro or naga pro is that when the battery starts getting low it won't respond to its programming. I also disabled the low battery desktop warning because it kept crashing my computer.
I was considering getting the v2 pro but the HyperSpeed sounds about right for me.
It doesn't matter what games I'm playing i always try to configure the 12 buttons, so i wouldn't use the changing of the side buttons ever
why tf do companies only allow 1 profile on a £100 mouse, it makes no sense to me and as that's the only feature I want out of all the extras on the v2 I can't warrant an extra £80 to be able to use 5 profiles. Absolutely crazy
I currently have the Razer Naga Trinity with 3 faces, and was thinking of upgrading but idk if it’s worth to loose the plates
I was only looking at the Hyperspeed because of the buttons you didn't mention, but all those drawbacks make me want to keep my current mouse until Razer makes a Pro with the two buttons- or at least one.
The naga range is missing thumb rests and I find that astonishing.
I agree. I wonder why the little finger rest is made with so much care, but the thumb is neglected.
If the laser combines naga with g604 thumbrest and metal scrolls, it will create the best mouse on the ground, but that won't happen.. 😞
Not sure if its just me, but I have had the pro for couple years and the buttons don't always input when you press them on the side of the mouse. Kind of garbage really, I have to take the panel off and place it back on mid encounters.
What is the weight comparison please. Why does noone mention this
just what I needed - many thanks
Glad I could help!
For me personally i really miss when the naga had the 2 buttons to the left of the left click, ontop of that the free scroll wheel is really good for a specific game i play
In my opinion, the Pro V2 sounds WAY BETTER than the Hyperspeed V2. My only complain about it is that it lacks those two extra side buttons near the left click button that the other mouse has
Personally, the ability to customise the feeling of the scroll wheel is way more important than the free-scroll. I have a free-scrolling mouse and I don’t really need it. Like, yeah, sometimes it can save you a lot of time when scrolling through websites and long documents, but most of the times you don’t want to go that fast. On the other hand, the physical sensation of the scroll wheel is really important to me. It might be because I have very sensitive touch, but the way it feels can either make me very uncomfortable or very joyful.
Some scroll wheels are painful after a while
I have seen a lot of reviews state that none of the settings for the pro v2 feel "correct" and that even at standard setting you can't get the page to scroll down with each tick... also it is just another thing to malfunction as well. the pro v2 does have the 2 buttons that the hyperspeed has just located below the scroll wheel. I ordered the hyperspeed. the 100 dollars cheaper makes me feel it is worth a try. I have had a naga pro for 2 years and literally never swap sides. I just use a different mouse entire for shooter. the naga is too clunky and bulky.
naga v2 Hyperspeed support switching multiple profiles ( via Razer Synapse )
"Nah' Guh." 😅 Great video by the way!
Been looking for an MMO mouse all day and this vid helped me with the final decision. Thanks so much!
Thanks for the video. There is one more difference that i see: these two buttons next to the left click.
You mentioned only 1 profile can be saved for the hyperspeed. Does it mean it actually has onboard memory and can be connected to a work laptop and won't lose bindings?
It's a good question.
I have Razer Naga v2 Hyperspeed and Razer Naga Trinity Pro (not v2). The second one has onboard memory to store macros (e.g. entering a sophisticated password you can't remember (don't do this 😉). The first one has not.
If I turn off Razer Synapse then Trinity continue to work with all saved macros and rebinds. It's not the case for Hyperspeed. All rebinds reseted to factory defaults.
Hyperspeed demonstrates the same behaviour when connected to another device.
So it seems I need Razer Synapse logged in and it's cloud sync active on both devices to have multiple profiles for my Razer Naga v2 Hyperspeed.
I actually own the hyperspeed naga and you can save settings to it, but only on the default profile as there isn't multiple profiles. After setting up the mouse in Synapse the settings stay the same after uninstalling synapse.
Getting free scroll on mouses is like going from a hdd to an ssd the first time I got a g502 and used it I couldn't go back. Also the two extra buttons are amazing for navigating the party member list as a healer. I think the hyperspeed is the best for mmos because of the free scroll for scrolling through text or zooming out really quickly to see raid mechanics if your camera wasn't for some reason. The Naga V2 Pro is nice, but when it comes to mmos hyperspeed is a great mouse for raiding and navigating a party member list, and when I play fps games I don't use a mmo mouse anyways because they are to heavy. I prefer heavy mouses for mmos, but lighter/mid weight mouses for fps games etc as I only usually require the two buttons on the side.
Free scroll is avaible on every mouse when you click on the scroll. So what's the advantage to have a special button for it ?
instabuy for me if they put the 2 small left click buttons on v2 pro -_-
using my naga pro, i miss the infinite scroll and 2 left click side buttons from G604. why they gotta remove those side buttons on v2 pro -__-
who are the people deciding on such designs. 🤦♂
Unfortunately free scroll is so ingrained into my muscle memory that I can't use mice without it anymore, it's just too convenient/useful for me. And too many games don't support the Windows middle-click software scroll or Page Up/Down inputs so those aren't proper alternatives either. I wish all gaming mice had free scroll, and it seems weird they'd not have that function on the more expensive v2 Pro when the v2 Hyperspeed has it.
does the naga v2 hyperspeed have the ability to store macros on its onboard memory?
I have the Razer Naga Trinity (Wired) and looking to purchase one of these. I only use the 12 buttons, but I like the flexibility of the Trinity. Also, the Naga Trinity I currently have (literally my 4th one), I run into the double click issue every single time. That's the reason why I am looking to purchase a new one . I hope none of these have that problem.
I had the same double clicking issue with the trinity so i got the v1 naga pro last year with the new optical switches. It seems to be holding up until now without any double clicking issues but the detachable side 12 button panel can stop responding sometimes until u unplug/replug the mice. I wish they made the v2 hyperspeed with the new gen 3 optical switch then it will have been the perfect mmo mice.
Just open and clean mouse folks. I have old one Naga v1 wired and work just fine.
So I didn't do my due diligence And purchased a hyperspeed to replace my wired Naga that was wearing out I'm really mad that a mouse in 2024 is sold with non rechargeable batteries I really wanted to like the hyperspeed with the 2 top buttons on the index finger as apposed to the top of the mouse and the price today on Amazon is about equal for each one
Love your Channel Dude!! Keep it going. Thank you!!
I still love the old logitech g700s, if only they remake with longer battery life.
THX! perfect review with info which I needed
@@kova_tech yep bro, At first I was sad that Pro has no freewheel, but the charging method of Hyperspeed leave me no choice.
Nah bro. I had this and I returned it for a red dragon mouse. The side buttons just dont sit well for my thumbs. Felt like a chore reaching for the last 2 rows of buttons. I tested the logitech g604, it had a better shape but it lacked more buttons for my needs. Got the red dreagon m913 impact elite and i was impressed by the shape and reachability of the side buttons. Sure, it feels cheap because of the price and the materials used but if u prioritize shape and button placement, then you're good.
how is the built-in battery life of M913? I heard this mice gonna be "wired" after half year
What's your experience been with the reddragon after 6 months? I came close to getting it but the reviews talking about how cheap it felt waived me off.
THANK YOU!💖💖 love your vids :3😊
Can u save the lightning on on board memory? Or its just gonna go rainbow mode without software running?
Its kinda funny u ignore the biggest reason for me to buy the hyperspeed eventhough i would play 300 if to pro had this: the the 2 extra buttons on the front which are cruical for mmo pvp and the sole reason i still buy use one of the first nagas that still had those up until now
Yeah same for me. The two extra buttons are great for healers who want the same functions as controller users on ffxiv which is to scroll through the party list without having to click them physically especially useful when trying to do alliance raids and clicking alliance members to raise them it allows a snappy transition between clicking alliance members and up and down arrows for the main party. Also free scroll is a huge thing for me be it scrolling through walls of text in the chat box or scrolling to view ingame achievements and it's also extremely helpful for me when reading articles online. Ever since the g502 I cannot go back to a mouse without free scroll I hate the feeling of it clicking when I scroll.
REALLY surprised this isnt talked about more. Also the weight of the hyper is so much better. I had both and tbh I wound up liking the hyperspeed more, as I like having lighter mice.
great comparison very informative
There are other manufactors that can compite with these models for mmo?
Excellent review!! Covered everything!! Just wondering for the V2Pro, does the scroll wheel have default settings? i really don't wanna h ave to configure that lol. Also when you covered battery life you didn't say how long the V2Pro lasts per charge?
Battery lasts 300 hours for the v2 pro
I prefer the 2 buttons under the scroll wheel to be used for keybinds and not doing that free spin scroll shit thats never useful. I know they got the buttons on left click but those are atrociously placed
Soo.. dumb question.. I had the Razer Naga Trinity before and it's broken and I'm thinking about getting the Naga v2 hyperspeed, but can you notice the latency in FPS games? And which one has better latency? The websites I clicked on were saying different things
The way you're say Naga is driving me nuts lol.
I really wanted to get the Hyperspeed V2 but why have it with replaceable battery but at same time no wired connection. Replaceable batteries are so outdated.
It lasts longer than the rechargeable battery and you dont need to wait for it to charge if you forget to charge the other one. After two years of heavy use rechargeable batteries die a lot faster where the other mouse will never have that issue, I think its fine. Just wish the hpyerspeed also had the optical switches, cant trust mechanical ones anymore seems all too often they dont register a click or double click, or if you have click held down it acts like you released it.
replaceable batteries never be outdated, get some brain. No wire is a bad design though
No white option?, why Razer?
I need an alternative to the Logitech G604... It got discontinued :( Any suggestions? or this the only one out there that is similar?
Does the Razer Naga V2 HyperSpeed has the exact same amazing Hyperscroll of the Basilisk V3 Pro?
God bless.
Can you use Nv2Pro and a Razer keyboard with the one usb dongle like you can with the Nv2 Hyperspeed? Nv2Pro uses Hyperspeed but it isn't advertised so I don't know if you can connect two devices on one USB.
yes. Google "razer multi-device compatibility list" & you will see all compatible products.
HEy do we know if either of these work for the PS5? im trying to play the FF14 MMO
This is a brilliant video 👍🏽 got exactly the information I needed
@@kova_tech I only have use for the 12 button setup. And I'd welcome having multiple profiles. If there's a version with just the mmo keys along with multiple profiles, I'll go with that version. Can't spend extra for something I don't have use for 😁. The G600 has spoiled me too much 😂 Razer is intriguing me because of the wireless factor.
And don't stop making contents like this.
Why not mentioning the Naga Pro as alternative to the hyperspeed. Both are around 100 bucks
Anyone managed to utilize the supposed single onboard profile for the v2 hyperspeed? There is no onboard profile button at all, and all bindings return to default the moment synapse is closed. Specifically navigate back and forward on wheel tillt (named mouse 4 and 5 in synapse) and thumb buttons remapped to numpad. None of these say they require synapse (other things do).
I recently bought this mouse (actually yesterday xD) and generally there's no button for saving in on-board memory. BUT, i havent added new profiles, used the one synapse made, and when i saved all my bindings, everything was on mice. I checked by killing all razer processes, and all macros did work (maybe not ones that are flagged that they will not be saved on memory and u need synapse for them to work). Maybe u should reinstall synapse, reset mice and try my approach. For me also lack of on-board memory is deal-breaker thats why i made sure this one have memory for profiles, and one profile with hypershift is plenty to have all gaming and work macros
There's possibility that using only 1 macro which cannot be saved on on-board memory is ruining this memory, today ill make some tests with my work laptop to make sure its saved
Edit: i have macro on mouse and everything works great on other computer without Synapse software (excluding this one recorded macro ofc), it works on both dongle and BT
how are your razer mouses holding up are they still working 100% i keep hearing horror stories of razer mouses breaking 6 mons after buying them
Hyperspeed is definitely better for wow pvp your index finger will have the ability for 6 additional keybinds with those two buttons
What about ff14
Do not buy the v2 pro... it is fairly common for the side panels to fail and in which case you can not buy a replacement part from razer, and suddenly, you own a perfectly functional paper weight.
These versions has on-board memory like logitech g604?
yep
the new naga v2 pro is so damn heavy idk yet if its a dealbreaker for me coming from the pro
this might be a stupid question but why does it matter if there are more buttons on the mouse than needed for the game?
With less buttons they are larger and easier to hit.
I used to have a Naga Chroma, sadly had the side buttons give up on me, sooo got it RMA'd and got a Trinity back from Razer. Sadly, the left and right mouse button started to get double click issues, but right after the warranty went brrrr. Was hoping there was gonna be a budget wireless Naga coming any time soon, but without the switchable side plates, since my Trinity also had a lot of connectivity issues, and I don't feel like trying that again. Doesn't seem like Razer is up to doing that though, since 110 bucks isn't even close to the 70 bucks that I paid back in 2016, just for a wireless version of it, without the lights. Heck no :I
The optical switches have a MUCH greater lifetime and have pretty much eliminated the 'double click' issue.
As far as side plate connectivity goes, it's just a matter of cleaning the contacts every so often. Maybe once every few months I will have some connectivity issues, which are instantly fixed by cleaning the contacts on the mouse and side plate, after whiich it will work flawlessly for another few months.
Hello. Can I save horizontal scroll binding into on-board memory on any of theese mice? Now I have Razer naga pro v1 and I can't do this, while almost any other bindings can be saved into onboard memory.
A very good way to over come it is to just create a macro to your desired key, which does 2 commands: 1) middle click, 2) right arrow key (for right-side scrolling) and vice versa for left. This is the only way i seem to have gotten around this.
I'd get the pro just for the two side buttons which is a huge deal to be honest. And I alo question why there's no wired version of the two side buttons? That way no need for recharging.
2 side buttons on the left click are not on the pro version
@@RainOrbsUnfortunately and no hyperpolling tech either. Feel like they hold back all features just to have something new sometimes.
are the ergonomics the same as the original naga? my OG naga still works but the shape of the mouse (mainly how it makes my pointer sit) tends to give me a fatigue feel in my pointer I don't get from my other mice (such as my viper ultimate)
Unfortunately no they're not I'm still having to use my Molten Naga due to the shape being way too wide it's ashame Razer can't just release a Naga "classic"
@@HollowRick for me that may be a good thing lol, I'm hoping the ergonomics changed as my OG causes me fatigue in my pointer finger as it positions it kind of weird
I got the V2 pro and it's scroll wheel died within 2 months. I've gotten wired naga that lasted years, the inconsistency in build quality is really frustrating with razer.
does the scroll wheel on the v2 pro wobbles if u were to lightly move it side by side?
i can confirm that it does not unless u force it to side click
hello what is the weight for Naga v2 Hyperspeed with battery and without battery ?
it should be said that the plates are a big point of failure. which you really dont wanna add more of on a razer product, also useless, no one buys a naga without using 12 buttons
I have the nage v2 pro matter a fact I only buy razer gear . love em 10/10
Anyone ever heard of naga pro not working with logitecvh g733?
Maybe bc they’re 2 different competing companies
I'd say the balance is yet again gone, I have bought razer naga mice since 2014 when my Mad Cats mouse gave out. The 3 naga mice I have bought never were more than 90 euro/dollar and they are not wireless.. I think it is a stupid thing to get rid of the rgb in the hyperspeed, and don't give all the other options to the mouse that the pro have, and put like 90 dollars on top of the price for the pro. that is double the price for a naga then it used to be. Don't tell me bluetooth is THAT expensive. Still I have never use the other switchable knobs other than the 12 knob one. If they would not be so utterly foolish and sell the mouse with 3 of them and ask a insane amount of money for it, maybe they could offer it for a reasonable price!!
I thought the hyperspeed got like an optical switch
Fuck razer why ?
I just want to have a mice with removable battery and optical switch
I'm still using my razer Naga Molten from 2011 😂
It'd be nice if you could slot an SD card into the Naga and have it double as a USB Storage Device.
they both suck, imagine being in a competitive situation and there is a break long enough for you to grab a drink, your mouse will go to sleep in less then 10 seconds, and will take about 5 seconds to turn on.. this will happen every time. 4/10 one of the worst mice I have ever used.. stick with a g600
well explained NAGA mouse review. i bought the wrong naga from military exchange , the naga hyperspeed is going for $99.99.... i want the USB type C charging feature ... also best buy is having naga pro v2 on sale $99.99
Kind of madge, the v2 hyperspeed is significantly better for MMOs because of the placement of those 1 extra buttons. But I would of preffered a rechargeable one.
I don't know why companies shoot themselves in the foot taking one step forward and two back.
Replaceable batteries is by far best option for mouse. You just go buy eneloop with a charger and swap them once a month if not two. And when it dies what occurs way too later than with any internal battery you just get it out of order and place a new one instead of searching chinese sites who sell you that specific designed battery which razer loves too much
@@rosst2000 The battery in the naga pro is a normal lithium battery, connector is not proprietary. I replaced it with a smaller battery for a good 17g weight reduction.
Thanks for the informative video, man. But go a little easier on the «is gonna be»’s 👍
so stupid how they do mouses... stupid for me, smart for they wallet...
Razer naga v2 PRO should be with side panels but you could chose with one panel u want i would pick 3x 12 buttions panel obviously someone else could pick different configuration
also those extra 2 buttions on left mouse buttion should be also added to v2 pro than that mouse could be perfect...
BT connections etc could be added extra if you want but Cable is the only thing i trust :P
It’s Nah-guh.
stop calling both mice just V2 xD bruh
so these wont have 4000Hz polling rate....why would they not put that in these, they are expensive already..... why work on the scroll wheel no one wants that!! lol
In what world would you use 4k polling rate on an MMO? Even if you play shooters, you'd be insane to use either one of these as they are > 120grams. Also, are you running at least a 240hz monitor and getting 240 frames in an mmo/fps to take advantage of 4k polling rate that already sees small benefits at the detriment of Batter Life?
From my experience i can tell u, this is 100% a piece of shit. I had the naga pro and the wireless feature didnt work anymore after 2 weeks, it just didnt connect anymore
Did you find a different brand/model with multiple buttons that's more reliable?
Go aerox 9
You have to remember that you don't really need to manually change profiles, because razer synapse can detect what game you are playing and change the profile accordingly, also reducing the amount of buttons on the side doesn't make it better for fps, it just removes functionality. Saying that the v2 hyperspeed is only good for MMO gamers on a budget is so wrong when you think about the fact that the v2 hyperspeed is so much cheaper and the only things you are losing are a stupid gimmick that just takes away buttons and some better switches.