Adventures of Sonic The Hegdehog and SaTam were supposed to be in the same continuity with Adventures being a prequel. Also there's hope of them SaTam characthers returning in Sonic Prime.
Have you ever thought about covering the Sony CD-i? Yes, the SONY CD-i. While Phillips made the majority of CD-i units and Magnavox had their name on some of the other CD-i units, SONY (same Sony as the Playstation) made a CD-i that was released. I think there is only ONE video on TH-cam covering the Sony CD-i (one guy who managed to get a working Sony CD-i and showed it off in a TH-cam video). I also remember the official CD-i magazine covering it (Issue # 2 of the a CD-i magazine even had the Sony CD-i on their cover. The CD-i version of 7th Guest, which it's PC version won PC game of the year, is primarily on the cover of issue # 2 from very late 1993, but the Sony CD-i is shown on the right side of the same cover. It's similar to the portable Phillips CD-i unit, but has several differences, especially when you compare photos of the Sony CD-i and the portable version of the Phillips CD-i side-by-side you'll see differences). CD-i magazines can be found online to read if you can't find them physically on ebay. They offer A LOT of info on the CD-i in general which I don't think I've ever heard mentioned in any TH-cam video.
I would have killed for a Sonic game based off Sonic SatAM and the Sonic Archie comics. I loved those stories and characters, even if people call it cringe. Funnily enough, the only game Bunnie Rabbot, Rotor, and Sally ever appreared in was Sonic Spinball.
Screw the people who call it cringe. Many people love these stories, so what makes the haters' opinions meaningful? Not much. The show has faults, sure, everything in the Universe has, but it's not right to call it bad just because they don't like it.
lumping in Sonic Adventures with Sonic 06 :/ people have a lot of irrational hatred for anything outside of the originals and Sonic Mania and Sega regularly takes the wrong message from that. Shadows' reputation as an edgelord came largely after Sonic Adventure 2 with his own game. The Adventure games had actual character arcs. I grew up with the 16 bit games and I loved the Adventure titles.
I could understand thinking the Shadow video game and stuff is cringe and over the top, but the character itself? Not really, he's just like any dark rival you would see in any other kids' media, like Vegeta.
I like the idea of something with the visual style and music of the Sonic anime film, that world was really cool, with The Land of the Sky and The Land of Darkness The dialog was hokey, but it was still better than pretty much all of the other Sonic cartoons by a lot.
@@elementalheroneos2757 Oh, have you not heard of this? Apparently sometime in the mid 90s Sega did a short 2 episode Anime OVA style thing with Sonic that was released in the west as a movie. It's probably the best portrayal of Metal Sonic for sure, but the world it takes place in is just so cool, like one of the areas looks like a flooded, destroyed ruin of New York City. They even use a warp zone to get past a tough area in the story, so they incorporated the mechanics of the game into the story in a meaningful way. And the soundtrack is awesome. It has...quirks....Knuckles wears a cowboy hat for some reason, and you have a couple little scenes which appeal mostly to the perverted anime viewers of the late 90s, and the dialog gets mocked a lot, even though I think the story they were telling was really good. But overall I think it's probably the best animated interpretation of Sonic. I'm sure you can find it on TH-cam, most people refer to it as the Sonic OVA
Trivia: In the USA, there are three Sonic the Hedgehog cartoons that were created by DiC: Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, Sonic the Hedgehog (aka Sonic SatAM) and Sonic Underground.
@@Invidente7 Actually, Adventures of Sonic, Sonic SatAM and Sonic Underground have different canons and they are not connected to one another. Adventures of Sonic is part of the Adventures of Sonic universe, Sonic SatAM is part of the Sonic SatAM universe and Sonic Underground is part of the Sonic Underground universe.
Idk, Sally can sneak but she can't buzzsaw. Maybe she could still throw rings, and as a concession about the buzzsaw thing give her some abilities or two with her AI-PDA Nicole. Like she'd be used more for deeper infiltration levels, with hacking door locks and augmenting capabilities of digital binoculars and stuff like that. Maybe some levels, you'd switch between them like in Mania+. I wonder if Chris Whitehead has heard of Sonic 16...
I remember the cartoon and the comics. It's a shame Sega abandoned all that lore, it was all so captivating for me as child. But that game really didn't look good. I like current Sonic lore, Edgy the Hedgy and all (lol), just wish they could do more with all those characters. Also, pretty amazing to know that at some point Naka and Cerny worked together.
I grew up in that era, I am super frustrated they never released Sonic 16, I think it was a great idea. I really wish Sega would come around to the SatAM side.
Sega was high for the Megadrive in Europe, Brazil and USA, but the real high was with the Saturn in Japan, it was even better than the n64 over there. I know that many fans prefer the Megadrive but my heart is with the Saturn. There is so many prototype games that we want so much. For example a game called Monica no Shiro was discovered only 1 month ago ( but still no uploads however for the fans).
The Master System was bigger than the NES in Europe and South America. Especially the UK, France and Brazil. The master system is the longest running console in history thanks to Brazil.
The sonic redesign in sonic spinball apparently caused such a storm that made many sega Japanese programmer's to walk out, claiming that the sonic in sonic spinball was so badly designed that he had lost his character. The Japanese sonic design is really stark comparison wise on box art and the majority of the box arts was the Japanese "sonic " looking more less detailed and his spikes was radically different. The sonic adventure design was a huge middle finger at the American designs and a final "go home" to the yanks. Things got violent many a time apparently. I kinda do prefer sonics 1/2 design to the spinball design, sonic 3 / s&k was a refining look. Each to there own. Another absolutely outstanding video look at Mr sonic!!!
Tbh, I feel that, as long as if it was seen as a “Gaiden” or spinoff kinda title, it could have maybe gotten some traction. The gameplay reminds me of “cinematic platformers” common in the 1990s (Flashback, Blackthorne, Abe’s Oddysey, Prince of Persia, etc) which with the Sonic property and right execution coulda made some sales, maybe even develop a following.
From the look of the video, I'd put it more as a comparison to the Mario RPG type divergence and would be the game tie in for SatAM since the other sonic series at the time pretty much spawned the cast of Mean Bean Machine...
Personally I don't see the resemblance at all ; ahhh... they both have dark hair? Lol. Though check out the advert, the Indian Dating advert chick is far more a likeness to LD! if I didn't know better I would say that LD has cloned the look on purpose. Just randomly appearing next to her actual legit video.
I love your channel and find your videos informative and entertaining. Congrats on your current success! I have a suggestion for a topic. Way back in the early 1980’s there was a sequel planned for the console called the Odyssey2 in the states and the Philips Videopac G7000 in Europe. This console would have been called the Odyssey3 in America but was never released. However, in select countries in Europe this was briefly released as the Videopac G7400. This console is extremely sought after by fans of the Odyssey2 and I would love to see a video discussing the G7400 and why it was so short lived.
10:18 Was that commentary really necessary? I'm trying to watch a video documentary on a cancelled Sonic project, I'm not looking for someone to insult some of my favorites characters out of the blue when no one asked for it. (I already have Twitter for that) Other than this off-putting part, it was a well documented video, good job.
@@LadyDecade Yeah, a joke at the expense of genuinely well written and beloved characters. I don't see how that's funny. But anyways, as I've said, this is still a good video no matter what.
Seems like a majority of Sega Super-Fans who are very nostalgic I find on yt have a funny accent. Freedom. Seriously tho, cool vid. Subbed. edit: Roger Hector has some of the most amazing jowls ever seen.
You know what might've saved this, conceptually? If they pitched it as a Princess Sally/Freedom Fighters game - maybe on a rescue mission to save Sonic who's been captured or something. I mean, as pointed out, the gameplay is so far removed from traditional Sonic stuff that it's weird to see _him_ doing this stuff. You take another character from that universe though? One who doesn't have super speed? Then it could work. There are a handful of sidescrollers with stealth elements like Mark of the Ninja or the GBA Splinter Cell games that show there's something there, I think... just not for a game where you're supposed to doing this stuff as Sonic :P
The music and artstyle of Sonic & Knuckles and Nights into Dreams just made me feel so nostalgic for that old Sega style. I didn't think the Dreamcast games were that bad, but only if I knew what a slippery slope those were with the later Gamecube games. I actually really enjoyed Sonic R as well. That Sonic-16 though looks so good, shame it was never completed. I can barely remember that cartoon now.
Just recently found your channel and have been super stoked to see such great content. Can't wait to see more, I have a request for a sonic video you may enjoy
This channel goes into great detail of things I covet from my childhood, Sega was my JAM and thus I subbed to your channel you know your gaming history and I love watching you explain it, SUBBED!!!...
Great video! Even when it's about a small game with little information you're able to make a great informative video about it! Just a little nitpick is that Mark Cerny's last name is pronounced with the C sounding like an S.
Now look here Lady Decade. I grew up on the old games "Sonic 1 through Sonic 3 & Knuckles" but Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 are great. Don't knocked till you try them.....the rest later suck though...except for generations and mania...sonic Advance 2 and 3 are hidden gems too
It would have been a great addition to the Sonic franchise. It's likely that 3D bonus levels and speedy classic levels would have been mandated, giving gamers the Sonic they knew.
This actually look really good since I had a lot of love for Sonic SatAM. Don’t really see how this show was cringe and I think Lady Decade might have mixed up the Sonic cartoons. If this had come out it could have kept Sonic SatAM going and maybe a proper ending.
Don't know if you're from the UK or not, but here Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog was much more popular than Sonic SatAM. I know in the US Sonic SatAM was more high profile than Adventures and built up a notable cult following, but here Adventures got a much bigger push. It's a bit of a cultural difference between US and UK.
@@IgorsDen yeah, I only saw the cartoon with the comedic tone... It was also dubbed, so that was neat! And apparently, we also had a dubbed version of Sonic Underground, and our version of the song is pretty well loved here in Portugal!
@@IgorsDen Oof. Adventures of Sonic was super cringy and full of so much nonsense. Sonic SatAM was the much better show and storyline. SatAM made Sonic genuinely cool and edgy
@@IgorsDen from the US while I enjoyed some of AoStHH I liked the story telling in Sonic SatAM more it definitely felt more in line with the games much like the Sonic OVA loosely based on Sonic CD.
Had it been introduced and been successful, Sonic 16 looks like it could have laid the groundwork for a good 3D Sonic game that didn't rely on Sonic going fast all the time. With most 3D Sonic games that we got it looks like developers really assumed that Sonic had to go fast most of the time which limited their options for gameplay in 3D. A 3D Sonic like Sonic 16 would have allowed for more strategic gameplay more along the lines of what Super Mario 64 was able to do. Sonic 16, even though it would have played differently than regular Sonic games, was a missed opportunity for Sega to move the Sonic franchise in a new direction. A direction that it might have needed to take in order to make Sonic work well in 3D.
Funny that this video mentions a ring attack; it has been found that a few game genie codes can be used in a Sonic 3 beta to create a ring toss move (which DOESN'T use up rings!).
Great video! People rarely mention 'The Ooze' though from the Sega Technical Institute... One of most original and interesting games ever. Much better than 'Comix Zone' imo but I do acknowledge that 'Comix Zone' is a classic 👌
The further Sega veers from reviving the SatAM/Archie canon, the more lost Sonic feels to me. If only the present obstacles just dropped off the face of the earth... #SaveWesternSonic
Imagine how cool it would be if companies had some kind of archive where they still had the code to all of the projects that got terminated over the years, and they decided to release it all to the fans, and say "We're not ever going to finish these games, but want them out there. Go for it".
I came into the Sonic fandom BECAUSE of SatAM when I discovered it a few years later in reruns. I still hold it as the gold standard of Sonic storytelling. I would have loved to play this game, and still believe a game with a playable SatAM cast should have happened at least once.
Thanks for another great video! I think this looked like a pretty cool concept. Probably would have bombed, but I definitely would have wanted to try it.
Sonic 16 would of be epic maybe should make a fan made game of this or maybe sega may re think this and make a re make of the cartoon anime because it was the best
I'm really surprised never to have heard of this before, what an interesting idea for a game. Thanks for the video! Maybe Chris Whitehead has heard of this and can "finish" the game for us, I bet it would sell like hotcakes
God no, it looks like it was designed by someone who never even played the game, god how did Sega of America manage to hang on for so long when they are clearly a bunch of clowns
When Sonic first came around I consumed everything that I could related to Sonic. The Archie comics, the Adventures cartoon (SatAM rarely showed in my area, but I checked the TV guide religiously for it), etc. But I quickly grew out of that and probably would have hated this game by the time it came out. Although I didn't know about the internals of Sega at the time, Spinball just felt and looked like such a different game and not in a good way.
Never knew nothing about that until I watch this channel sonic 16 and I am an old school sega fan boy still can't believe that I had SEGA mega drive in 1991 and it's still runs now to this day I guess it's true what they say old ones are the best ones.
Ok, this game might not have been perfect, but I would still like to see a Sonic game with strong story elements. And if Sally Acorn and the Freedom Fighters were in it, all the better!
Heard about this. Sadly it never got past the demo. Even worse the classic trackball-controlled Sonic arcade machine was supposed to be a Sonic SaTam adaptation. I guess Sonic Spinball and Sally in Sonic 1 and 2 mods is as good as it ever gonna get.
Thanks for all infos you talked about it! Nice to see a genesis(mega drive) and snes collection living fine in same place! it's hard to see a people who had the both collections without defend only one enterprises like sega or nintendo and don't see the best of every consoles!. Well if you had some info about the racing games from gremlin studios (who are real hard to find any info about it, i was so glad!). Thanks.
Sonic SatAM isn't cringe, it was awesome for its time. It had darker, more serious themes than most cartoons back in the day. If remade today as a more up-to-date cartoon, with bigger budget and with what is considered darker, more serious plot nowadays - I believe it'd be a great cartoon. Also don't diminish Sally to a simple deviantart material. She was an outstanding female character. Maybe a bit too perfect, but a fitting foil for a flawed protagonist. Of course it's easy to look back almost 30 years ago and see flaws, but considering the times, the constraints of budget and the DIC's obsession with more popular Power rangers, Ben Hurst's vision for SatAM was great. Those DICs didn't even let him finish the plot with intended 3rd season. He actually had a finished script and was really passionate about it. He would try to pitch it to higher ups all his life, but sadly never got greenlit.
I grew up in this sonic Era I couldn't never understood why sonic 4 was released in 2010..sonic 16 I didn't even see get released the Saturday morning cartoon was nice... these later sonic game never got into tho I did like sonic adventures 2 battle!..Sonic 3 and knuckles is the best Sonic game ever!!!
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Adventures of Sonic The Hegdehog and SaTam were supposed to be in the same continuity with Adventures being a prequel. Also there's hope of them SaTam characthers returning in Sonic Prime.
Your review style is very similar to Top Hat Gaming. I liked your reviews better than his, thus far.
Have you ever thought about covering the Sony CD-i? Yes, the SONY CD-i. While Phillips made the majority of CD-i units and Magnavox had their name on some of the other CD-i units, SONY (same Sony as the Playstation) made a CD-i that was released. I think there is only ONE video on TH-cam covering the Sony CD-i (one guy who managed to get a working Sony CD-i and showed it off in a TH-cam video). I also remember the official CD-i magazine covering it (Issue # 2 of the a CD-i magazine even had the Sony CD-i on their cover. The CD-i version of 7th Guest, which it's PC version won PC game of the year, is primarily on the cover of issue # 2 from very late 1993, but the Sony CD-i is shown on the right side of the same cover. It's similar to the portable Phillips CD-i unit, but has several differences, especially when you compare photos of the Sony CD-i and the portable version of the Phillips CD-i side-by-side you'll see differences). CD-i magazines can be found online to read if you can't find them physically on ebay. They offer A LOT of info on the CD-i in general which I don't think I've ever heard mentioned in any TH-cam video.
love this vid but you made a mistake its mark sirney spelt cerney not mark kerny
No
I would have killed for a Sonic game based off Sonic SatAM and the Sonic Archie comics. I loved those stories and characters, even if people call it cringe.
Funnily enough, the only game Bunnie Rabbot, Rotor, and Sally ever appreared in was Sonic Spinball.
Screw the people who call it cringe. Many people love these stories, so what makes the haters' opinions meaningful? Not much. The show has faults, sure, everything in the Universe has, but it's not right to call it bad just because they don't like it.
I loved the Archie ones, I always remember there being a black robotic tentacles enemy that used to chase sonic but can’t recall the name of them
Gotta be honest, I kinda wish this'd been green-lit. A stealth game based on the darker SatAM elements could've been a fun addition to the franchise.
Sonic Adventure should have been a console franchise based on the SatAM series and Archie comics from issues 30-50.
lumping in Sonic Adventures with Sonic 06 :/
people have a lot of irrational hatred for anything outside of the originals and Sonic Mania and Sega regularly takes the wrong message from that.
Shadows' reputation as an edgelord came largely after Sonic Adventure 2 with his own game. The Adventure games had actual character arcs. I grew up with the 16 bit games and I loved the Adventure titles.
I could understand thinking the Shadow video game and stuff is cringe and over the top, but the character itself? Not really, he's just like any dark rival you would see in any other kids' media, like Vegeta.
yeh but every 3d sonic game is janky as hell..it just feels cheap.
the 2d ones are a lot more solid and doesn't feel like a cut scene while you play
its too late bro. the damage has been done for over a decade now.
Yeah, she makes the uneducated assumption people like us who grew up on the originals don't like the newer stuff. She's missing out big time, sadly.
@@doctoreggmannegaful I think it was just a joke.. I hate playing sonic due to the fanbase acting like kpop stans
I would love to have a game that is based on the sonic SATAM
I'd trade Sega back sonic 4
@@wisco_simple okaaaaay
I like the idea of something with the visual style and music of the Sonic anime film, that world was really cool, with The Land of the Sky and The Land of Darkness
The dialog was hokey, but it was still better than pretty much all of the other Sonic cartoons by a lot.
@@knightshousegames explain more
@@elementalheroneos2757 Oh, have you not heard of this?
Apparently sometime in the mid 90s Sega did a short 2 episode Anime OVA style thing with Sonic that was released in the west as a movie.
It's probably the best portrayal of Metal Sonic for sure, but the world it takes place in is just so cool, like one of the areas looks like a flooded, destroyed ruin of New York City. They even use a warp zone to get past a tough area in the story, so they incorporated the mechanics of the game into the story in a meaningful way. And the soundtrack is awesome.
It has...quirks....Knuckles wears a cowboy hat for some reason, and you have a couple little scenes which appeal mostly to the perverted anime viewers of the late 90s, and the dialog gets mocked a lot, even though I think the story they were telling was really good. But overall I think it's probably the best animated interpretation of Sonic.
I'm sure you can find it on TH-cam, most people refer to it as the Sonic OVA
Trivia: In the USA, there are three Sonic the Hedgehog cartoons that were created by DiC: Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, Sonic the Hedgehog (aka Sonic SatAM) and Sonic Underground.
And Adventures was supposed to be a prequel to Sonic SaTam.
Who also produced the Super Mario Bros. Super Show
@@Invidente7 Actually, Adventures of Sonic, Sonic SatAM and Sonic Underground have different canons and they are not connected to one another. Adventures of Sonic is part of the Adventures of Sonic universe, Sonic SatAM is part of the Sonic SatAM universe and Sonic Underground is part of the Sonic Underground universe.
@@TheRealDustinNunn I know, I said It was SUPPOSED, not that it was.
I always got a juvenile chuckle when the woman said "Dic" on the teli! 🤣🤣🤭🤭
I love the satam characters.
Me too. They seriously need more love and respect.
A Sonic game that looks like a cross between Prince of Persia and Metal Gear, interesting!
The game would be better for Sally instead of Sonic.
Agreed
Nah it work fine with Sonic too! Variety of genres is common with Mario and sonic
@@tails_the_god Mario is a portly slow plumber. I never seen him fast except when eating. Nothing wrong with eating, mind you. A slow Sonic game is so
@@magdcs lmao good one xD, I'm helping with a Sonic SatAM RPG game and I find it unique and cool
Idk, Sally can sneak but she can't buzzsaw. Maybe she could still throw rings, and as a concession about the buzzsaw thing give her some abilities or two with her AI-PDA Nicole.
Like she'd be used more for deeper infiltration levels, with hacking door locks and augmenting capabilities of digital binoculars and stuff like that.
Maybe some levels, you'd switch between them like in Mania+.
I wonder if Chris Whitehead has heard of Sonic 16...
I remember the Sega sonic games well, the cartoon with Sonic and Sally will always hold a special place in my heart.
I remember the cartoon and the comics. It's a shame Sega abandoned all that lore, it was all so captivating for me as child. But that game really didn't look good. I like current Sonic lore, Edgy the Hedgy and all (lol), just wish they could do more with all those characters.
Also, pretty amazing to know that at some point Naka and Cerny worked together.
Hence why Cerny went on to create Sonic's Ass (Crash Bandicoot) inspired by Sonic and the efforts to bring him to the third dimension in 32 bits.
Wasn't the SATAM crew in Sonic Pinball? I swear there's a bonus section where you destroy robotization tubes, and each of the cast members pops out.
Yup, Sally appears in her pink fur and black hair design.
a lot of people that grew up with the 16 bit sonic games love sonic adventure 1 and 2
You continue to cover topics I have never heard of. Quality content. 👍
Video starts at 7:17 (if you want to skip the "brief" introduction).
I love the music in Ice Cap Zone.
I grew up in that era, I am super frustrated they never released Sonic 16, I think it was a great idea. I really wish Sega would come around to the SatAM side.
Sega was high for the Megadrive in Europe, Brazil and USA, but the real high was with the Saturn in Japan, it was even better than the n64 over there. I know that many fans prefer the Megadrive but my heart is with the Saturn.
There is so many prototype games that we want so much. For example a game called Monica no Shiro was discovered only 1 month ago ( but still no uploads however for the fans).
The Master System was bigger than the NES in Europe and South America. Especially the UK, France and Brazil. The master system is the longest running console in history thanks to Brazil.
Imagine a Sonic/Rocket Knight team up game!
sonic 2 for snes xd
a hack of sparkster
(of course that's the closest on existance)
Had no idea of the existence of this unreleased game! Looks so cool! Love this video and your narration :) Thanks!
That was excellent. Never knew this existed, amazing stuff. Thanks for crediting me here too 👊 ✊
Love that you always hit on obscure tidbits like this!
It would be freaking awesome if Jaleel White did the voice for future Sonic products (games, movies,shoes ,etc.)
Great video again LadyDecade! Love your work!!
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Lady Decade: Sonic Adventure is cringe
She's literally the only person to think that. I think she may not be a big Sonic fan as she made some very... interesting claims about the franchise.
Everyone who grew up with the classic games finds 3d sonic cringe.
@@isodoubIet nope
@@isodoubIet Sonic in general is cringe, he always was just we were like 11 yrs old ourselves, WE were fucking cringey back then too :D
The sonic redesign in sonic spinball apparently caused such a storm that made many sega Japanese programmer's to walk out, claiming that the sonic in sonic spinball was so badly designed that he had lost his character. The Japanese sonic design is really stark comparison wise on box art and the majority of the box arts was the Japanese "sonic " looking more less detailed and his spikes was radically different. The sonic adventure design was a huge middle finger at the American designs and a final "go home" to the yanks. Things got violent many a time apparently. I kinda do prefer sonics 1/2 design to the spinball design, sonic 3 / s&k was a refining look. Each to there own. Another absolutely outstanding video look at Mr sonic!!!
Sonic 3 is his best look imo
My daily lunch entertainment is here!
Tbh, I feel that, as long as if it was seen as a “Gaiden” or spinoff kinda title, it could have maybe gotten some traction. The gameplay reminds me of “cinematic platformers” common in the 1990s (Flashback, Blackthorne, Abe’s Oddysey, Prince of Persia, etc) which with the Sonic property and right execution coulda made some sales, maybe even develop a following.
From the look of the video, I'd put it more as a comparison to the Mario RPG type divergence and would be the game tie in for SatAM since the other sonic series at the time pretty much spawned the cast of Mean Bean Machine...
Wasn't Prince of Persia from the 80s, though?
Smashing them out of the park lately. Nice vid.
I wonder if there were any unreleased PS1 mascot games. Perhaps a crash Bandicoot game no one has heard of 🤔😎
There were Unreleased Crash games but on the 7th gen
It's really great to have our history explained like this by Counselor Troi
Personally I don't see the resemblance at all ; ahhh... they both have dark hair? Lol.
Though check out the advert, the Indian Dating advert chick is far more a likeness to LD! if I didn't know better I would say that LD has cloned the look on purpose. Just randomly appearing next to her actual legit video.
Ha. Never noticed until you pointed this out.
Nobody:
Lady Decade: Mark Kerny
LOL!
@@diehlr Serneeeee
Lady Dessade
Don't make fun of Rouge! She's a lovely bat and not at all responsible for COVID.
She gave me Covid, but I'm ok with that..
I love your channel and find your videos informative and entertaining. Congrats on your current success! I have a suggestion for a topic. Way back in the early 1980’s there was a sequel planned for the console called the Odyssey2 in the states and the Philips Videopac G7000 in Europe. This console would have been called the Odyssey3 in America but was never released. However, in select countries in Europe this was briefly released as the Videopac G7400. This console is extremely sought after by fans of the Odyssey2 and I would love to see a video discussing the G7400 and why it was so short lived.
Yeah! New Lady Decade! 🙌🙌
The theory that Comix Zone is what spawned out of Sonic 16 is pretty brilliant, I never made the connection.
I’ve never heard of this. Thank you!
The game actually looked good with those graphics and mechanics, but it wouldn't be a good Sonic game.
Great video! Just finding your channel and liking the quality Sonic/SEGA content you are creating!
I wish Sega Reboots the Freedom Fighter as it's Own Franchise as a Teen Rated Game.
Highly doubt that would happen
this channel is pretty pog
This was very interesting. I had never heard about this. Fascinating that they considered a stealthy Sonic entry.
10:18 Was that commentary really necessary? I'm trying to watch a video documentary on a cancelled Sonic project, I'm not looking for someone to insult some of my favorites characters out of the blue when no one asked for it. (I already have Twitter for that)
Other than this off-putting part, it was a well documented video, good job.
It's a joke
@@LadyDecade Yeah, a joke at the expense of genuinely well written and beloved characters. I don't see how that's funny.
But anyways, as I've said, this is still a good video no matter what.
@@alexos9011 Your characters get to be cannon....
@@HEMPHILL23 I'm sorry I don't understand what you mean by that
@@LadyDecade i laughed, sonic fans now days are furry Incells that post on 4chan...it was a good joke
Lady Decade! Thank you always for your great videos! Just signed up to your Patreon to show the love and support! Keep it up! #YouareAwesome
Seems like a majority of Sega Super-Fans who are very nostalgic I find on yt have a funny accent. Freedom. Seriously tho, cool vid. Subbed.
edit: Roger Hector has some of the most amazing jowls ever seen.
You know what might've saved this, conceptually? If they pitched it as a Princess Sally/Freedom Fighters game - maybe on a rescue mission to save Sonic who's been captured or something. I mean, as pointed out, the gameplay is so far removed from traditional Sonic stuff that it's weird to see _him_ doing this stuff. You take another character from that universe though? One who doesn't have super speed? Then it could work. There are a handful of sidescrollers with stealth elements like Mark of the Ninja or the GBA Splinter Cell games that show there's something there, I think... just not for a game where you're supposed to doing this stuff as Sonic :P
Just found your channel last night. You making the exact content that I need
The music and artstyle of Sonic & Knuckles and Nights into Dreams just made me feel so nostalgic for that old Sega style. I didn't think the Dreamcast games were that bad, but only if I knew what a slippery slope those were with the later Gamecube games. I actually really enjoyed Sonic R as well. That Sonic-16 though looks so good, shame it was never completed. I can barely remember that cartoon now.
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Wow, you make a game documentary seem so elegant. So informative. Newly Subbed.
Another great vid.
This channel goes into great detail of things I covet from my childhood, Sega was my JAM and thus I subbed to your channel you know your gaming history and I love watching you explain it, SUBBED!!!...
Great video! Even when it's about a small game with little information you're able to make a great informative video about it!
Just a little nitpick is that Mark Cerny's last name is pronounced with the C sounding like an S.
This channel is great, nice work. I've never heard about this proto game before.
Dang, an rpg style sonic game back then would have been interesting!
Yeah, it really would have. Thanks for whiffing that distinction of being the first, Bioware!
I happen to love the Saturday morning cartoon, and the Archie comics series. I would have loved Sonic 16.
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The most "I don't understand Sonic" normie shit I've ever heard
Glad I could find someone who didn't just blindly think it was "good"
The new games are fucking terrible though.
Edgy the hedgy is now my new favourite name for shadow.
@@adamberthiaume309 yes, in terms of quality sure, but Rouge and Shadow are both great characters
Now look here Lady Decade. I grew up on the old games "Sonic 1 through Sonic 3 & Knuckles" but Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 are great. Don't knocked till you try them.....the rest later suck though...except for generations and mania...sonic Advance 2 and 3 are hidden gems too
Brilliant work
I was a Super Nintendo kid, so I didn't even know this existed... Erm, didn't exist? Very cool, thanks for putting this together!
9:12 hey I resemble that remark 🤣
Mario 64: im the first one, to have the pixel bit on my name
Sonic 16: hold my Rings
Great video
Only just subscribed to this channel but I love it already
You can't talk about Sonic 16 without talking about Sonic Mars!
It would have been a great addition to the Sonic franchise. It's likely that 3D bonus levels and speedy classic levels would have been mandated, giving gamers the Sonic they knew.
This actually look really good since I had a lot of love for Sonic SatAM. Don’t really see how this show was cringe and I think Lady Decade might have mixed up the Sonic cartoons. If this had come out it could have kept Sonic SatAM going and maybe a proper ending.
Don't know if you're from the UK or not, but here Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog was much more popular than Sonic SatAM. I know in the US Sonic SatAM was more high profile than Adventures and built up a notable cult following, but here Adventures got a much bigger push. It's a bit of a cultural difference between US and UK.
@@IgorsDen yeah, I only saw the cartoon with the comedic tone... It was also dubbed, so that was neat! And apparently, we also had a dubbed version of Sonic Underground, and our version of the song is pretty well loved here in Portugal!
@@IgorsDen Oof. Adventures of Sonic was super cringy and full of so much nonsense. Sonic SatAM was the much better show and storyline. SatAM made Sonic genuinely cool and edgy
"Full of so much nonsense" isn't a demerit for everyone, and similarly "edgy" isn't always a plus
@@IgorsDen from the US while I enjoyed some of AoStHH I liked the story telling in Sonic SatAM more it definitely felt more in line with the games much like the Sonic OVA loosely based on Sonic CD.
Had it been introduced and been successful, Sonic 16 looks like it could have laid the groundwork for a good 3D Sonic game that didn't rely on Sonic going fast all the time.
With most 3D Sonic games that we got it looks like developers really assumed that Sonic had to go fast most of the time which limited their options for gameplay in 3D.
A 3D Sonic like Sonic 16 would have allowed for more strategic gameplay more along the lines of what Super Mario 64 was able to do.
Sonic 16, even though it would have played differently than regular Sonic games, was a missed opportunity for Sega to move the Sonic franchise in a new direction. A direction that it might have needed to take in order to make Sonic work well in 3D.
Great video as always
Funny that this video mentions a ring attack; it has been found that a few game genie codes can be used in a Sonic 3 beta to create a ring toss move (which DOESN'T use up rings!).
Edgy the Hedgy is a great name for my pet rat, and I thank you for it.
Great video! People rarely mention 'The Ooze' though from the Sega Technical Institute... One of most original and interesting games ever. Much better than 'Comix Zone' imo but I do acknowledge that 'Comix Zone' is a classic 👌
The further Sega veers from reviving the SatAM/Archie canon, the more lost Sonic feels to me. If only the present obstacles just dropped off the face of the earth... #SaveWesternSonic
Great vid
I grew up in the 16 bit era and enjoyed Sonic Adventure quite a lot.
Imagine how cool it would be if companies had some kind of archive where they still had the code to all of the projects that got terminated over the years, and they decided to release it all to the fans, and say "We're not ever going to finish these games, but want them out there. Go for it".
I came into the Sonic fandom BECAUSE of SatAM when I discovered it a few years later in reruns. I still hold it as the gold standard of Sonic storytelling. I would have loved to play this game, and still believe a game with a playable SatAM cast should have happened at least once.
9:24- funniest line in the vid!
Subbed because I love Sega, Sonic, and this video.
An amazing video as always :)
Thanks for another great video! I think this looked like a pretty cool concept. Probably would have bombed, but I definitely would have wanted to try it.
Sonic 16 would of be epic maybe should make a fan made game of this or maybe sega may re think this and make a re make of the cartoon anime because it was the best
I will have to check out more videos later :)
Thank you!
I'm really surprised never to have heard of this before, what an interesting idea for a game. Thanks for the video!
Maybe Chris Whitehead has heard of this and can "finish" the game for us, I bet it would sell like hotcakes
God no, it looks like it was designed by someone who never even played the game, god how did Sega of America manage to hang on for so long when they are clearly a bunch of clowns
When Sonic first came around I consumed everything that I could related to Sonic. The Archie comics, the Adventures cartoon (SatAM rarely showed in my area, but I checked the TV guide religiously for it), etc. But I quickly grew out of that and probably would have hated this game by the time it came out. Although I didn't know about the internals of Sega at the time, Spinball just felt and looked like such a different game and not in a good way.
Spinball was terrible to me... I could tell as a kid that a different team was behind it.
Just a FYI I did get a notification for this video.
Never knew nothing about that until I watch this channel sonic 16 and I am an old school sega fan boy still can't believe that I had SEGA mega drive in 1991 and it's still runs now to this day I guess it's true what they say old ones are the best ones.
Ok, this game might not have been perfect, but I would still like to see a Sonic game with strong story elements. And if Sally Acorn and the Freedom Fighters were in it, all the better!
Heard about this. Sadly it never got past the demo. Even worse the classic trackball-controlled Sonic arcade machine was supposed to be a Sonic SaTam adaptation. I guess Sonic Spinball and Sally in Sonic 1 and 2 mods is as good as it ever gonna get.
A Westernized SegaSonic even had a Robotnik Sprite to match his SATAM Appearance.
I love your vids! Such a beautiful Lady Decade! Have you thought about doing one on Wacky Worlds Creative Art Studio?
Good vid. Loved the satam sonic, but loved most all animated sonic.
Thanks for all infos you talked about it! Nice to see a genesis(mega drive) and snes collection living fine in same place! it's hard to see a people who had the both collections without defend only one enterprises like sega or nintendo and don't see the best of every consoles!. Well if you had some info about the racing games from gremlin studios (who are real hard to find any info about it, i was so glad!). Thanks.
I can't believe I never knew this one existed! I've heard of other canceled Sonic games but not this one.
thank you this was awesome soo much I didn't know. The younger fan boy kid of me would of love the game just cause it was sonic lol
you’re doing an excellent job with bringing up info on different media. anyways, I’m wondering if there’s anymore lost game media from sega.
Sonic SatAM isn't cringe, it was awesome for its time. It had darker, more serious themes than most cartoons back in the day. If remade today as a more up-to-date cartoon, with bigger budget and with what is considered darker, more serious plot nowadays - I believe it'd be a great cartoon.
Also don't diminish Sally to a simple deviantart material. She was an outstanding female character. Maybe a bit too perfect, but a fitting foil for a flawed protagonist. Of course it's easy to look back almost 30 years ago and see flaws, but considering the times, the constraints of budget and the DIC's obsession with more popular Power rangers, Ben Hurst's vision for SatAM was great. Those DICs didn't even let him finish the plot with intended 3rd season. He actually had a finished script and was really passionate about it. He would try to pitch it to higher ups all his life, but sadly never got greenlit.
This is the most sensible post here.
I grew up in this sonic Era I couldn't never understood why sonic 4 was released in 2010..sonic 16 I didn't even see get released the Saturday morning cartoon was nice... these later sonic game never got into tho I did like sonic adventures 2 battle!..Sonic 3 and knuckles is the best Sonic game ever!!!
I’d love to see a video about Mystic Defender and it’s related games.. quality games that aren’t widely known
New to me @Lady Decade. I here classic Mystic Cave music. Beware that pit!