Good job, nice test & vid on the Kings gear & 200A lifepo4 battery. Kings do have some decent stuff, contrary to much belief. Their lithium batteries seem to be pretty good from what I have researched & probly best bang for buck atm, their fridges and inverters are pretty awesome for the price point if you get them on a special sale also. I bought 2 of these 200A lithiums a week apart recently and received a black top battery first & then a blue top was the second. The black top is as the stated specs onsite with continuous charge & discharge of 150A & a 10 second burst of 300A, a recessed post at each end & is 21.5kg. The blue top is a newer model I believe, it’s about 40mm wider with protruding posts at one end and weighed 20.7kg, 800gms lighter than the black top but the BMS is as you have shown a 200A continuous with a 240A (5 seconds) surge, so more continuous grunt but less surge ability, (supposedly) I like the prismatic cells Kings use in the 120A Lithiums & I have seen them pull 170A for several minutes even tho they’re rated at 120A continuous & 150A surge, so I know they’re good & they pulled way over the 120AH at 128A+. Kings dropped the Lolly a bit with the 300A battery tho, as they have the same BMS as the 1st gen 200A batteries & can only discharge at 150A continuous which is a bit sucky I feel for a battery this size, they should be able to accomodate a 3kw inverter with 250A continuously, maybe they will have a new 300A model soon that will be at least 200A or more continuous output. My pick of this bunch, (depending on how much power you want/need) I like the primatic cells of the 120A model & its proven it can put out a decent bit of grunt, so I think it is good value in itself if you dont need the larger power requirements as it can run an induction cooker no worries. However, I would tend to steer people toward 1 or 2, 200A bluetop lithiums rather than the 300A model, & even 2 x 120A batteries would be cheaper for twice the current output of one 300A battery. Just my thoughts, also depending on the situation. I think the lithiums can all be in a 4s4p situation for 48v use, which is a big benefit & makes them about half the price of any of their server rack style competitors for the power output, negating the fact you will need extra cabling & maybe a all in one 4 x 12v balancing unit to help keep it all in check when in 48v series connected. These balancing units are not very expensive on Flea-bay, whatever, & can do up to 4 x 12v batteries at once, in series or parallel. Interesting setups you have there, I like the EVE cells, (not what happened to them tho), but the Kings seem to be a quick, cheap, decent drop-in at a good price for the average Joe. Enjoying ur vids, & good to see you give these batteries a decent workout. Cheers
Hey mate, thanks a lot for this comment absolutely love the eve cells aswell, also, have had a chance to film a video on the new 300ah version with better BMS and that one is actually really surprising aswell, hopefully that video will be up soon too. Thanks heaps for watching 😊👍
(I commented on the 300AH video - I watched that first) - the 300AHs say they are 4x series capable for a 48V syatem (I haven't bought any newer 200Ah to see what the stickers say - it seems Kings put more details on the stickers than in their info page). At 12V (I have a Renogy 3kW inverter-charger on a 4x200Ah parallel bank) - basically, unless one wants (spend up) to parallel 100A charge controllers, solar input rate peaks out at around 1200W on 12V (Renogy don't yet - appear to - have a 48V 3+kW inverter for the Australian market, Growatt is probably the serious alternative - or spend up for Victron.)
@newport5504 yes 300ah one has a 300a bms in the new version. Just make sure you get the right one. I think they haven't updated their website yet because they're clearing old stock still
Good solid test results mate, I’m satisfied king’s batteries and inverters are good, im going 3x120ah lithium at this stage can hook up to 4, and 3000w inverter. I understand batteries in series need a 12v charger each for balanced charging?
@@WEEKENDER4X4 hadn’t considered charging a 48v setup with these, I thought you could still use a AIO system for charging at 56v. You can get a single unit of 4 x 12v balancers which should keep it all balanced, I used a 24v balancer (2 x 12v battery system) on 2 x 16v Maxwell caps I have in a bus near the inverter for extra grunt & filtering ripple, & it seems to work a treat at keeping the capacitors closely balanced, otherwise they could run 1 @ 16v while the other (in series) was only @ 10-11v.
I just Bought a new 200ah battery like yours today ive been charing it with a lithium kickarse battery charger 22amp smart charger for 6 hours and still hasn't shown fully charged but the charger fan just finally stopped blowing , have i done something wrong ? it still says charging but fan stopped and its saying on charger screen 14.4
Hi. Great review i have 1 of these battery's a 2000 watt inverter and 1 400 watt solar panel 40a charge controller i am running a med size home fridge and a 32" tv . what size fuse and bus bars would fit this set up
Thanks for your thoughts and review. I was looking at the itech 100ah slim with the Anderson plugs already installed for $879 but for $799 and free shipping i can get one of these instead for my 2013 Nissan Navara single tub converted camper trailer/canopy and get some truly offgrid potential happening
@@WEEKENDER4X4 Wow, 'd also like to put the 200Ah Kings into a smaller box (haven't yet purchased), what size box do you reckon you could get it into? Cheers Sean
The best thing about Kings is that they have bricks and mortar shops . This helps enormously if you have any warranty problems . Much greater piece of mind than purchasing from some eBay drop shipper at an unknown address.. Ask me how i know.😢
It's highly debatable, I like the prismatic cells as I have built quite a few of them. But now these kings batteries are more affordable than buying the cells from Ali express and having them shipped over, plus BMS cost and battery case cost.
Good job, nice test & vid on the Kings gear & 200A lifepo4 battery. Kings do have some decent stuff, contrary to much belief. Their lithium batteries seem to be pretty good from what I have researched & probly best bang for buck atm, their fridges and inverters are pretty awesome for the price point if you get them on a special sale also.
I bought 2 of these 200A lithiums a week apart recently and received a black top battery first & then a blue top was the second. The black top is as the stated specs onsite with continuous charge & discharge of 150A & a 10 second burst of 300A, a recessed post at each end & is 21.5kg. The blue top is a newer model I believe, it’s about 40mm wider with protruding posts at one end and weighed 20.7kg, 800gms lighter than the black top but the BMS is as you have shown a 200A continuous with a 240A (5 seconds) surge, so more continuous grunt but less surge ability, (supposedly)
I like the prismatic cells Kings use in the 120A Lithiums & I have seen them pull 170A for several minutes even tho they’re rated at 120A continuous & 150A surge, so I know they’re good & they pulled way over the 120AH at 128A+.
Kings dropped the Lolly a bit with the 300A battery tho, as they have the same BMS as the 1st gen 200A batteries & can only discharge at 150A continuous which is a bit sucky I feel for a battery this size, they should be able to accomodate a 3kw inverter with 250A continuously, maybe they will have a new 300A model soon that will be at least 200A or more continuous output.
My pick of this bunch, (depending on how much power you want/need) I like the primatic cells of the 120A model & its proven it can put out a decent bit of grunt, so I think it is good value in itself if you dont need the larger power requirements as it can run an induction cooker no worries.
However, I would tend to steer people toward 1 or 2, 200A bluetop lithiums rather than the 300A model, & even 2 x 120A batteries would be cheaper for twice the current output of one 300A battery. Just my thoughts, also depending on the situation.
I think the lithiums can all be in a 4s4p situation for 48v use, which is a big benefit & makes them about half the price of any of their server rack style competitors for the power output, negating the fact you will need extra cabling & maybe a all in one 4 x 12v balancing unit to help keep it all in check when in 48v series connected. These balancing units are not very expensive on Flea-bay, whatever, & can do up to 4 x 12v batteries at once, in series or parallel.
Interesting setups you have there, I like the EVE cells, (not what happened to them tho), but the Kings seem to be a quick, cheap, decent drop-in at a good price for the average Joe.
Enjoying ur vids, & good to see you give these batteries a decent workout. Cheers
Hey mate, thanks a lot for this comment absolutely love the eve cells aswell, also, have had a chance to film a video on the new 300ah version with better BMS and that one is actually really surprising aswell, hopefully that video will be up soon too. Thanks heaps for watching 😊👍
What a bugger they are only 699 now Great clip mate
(I commented on the 300AH video - I watched that first) - the 300AHs say they are 4x series capable for a 48V syatem (I haven't bought any newer 200Ah to see what the stickers say - it seems Kings put more details on the stickers than in their info page).
At 12V (I have a Renogy 3kW inverter-charger on a 4x200Ah parallel bank) - basically, unless one wants (spend up) to parallel 100A charge controllers, solar input rate peaks out at around 1200W on 12V (Renogy don't yet - appear to - have a 48V 3+kW inverter for the Australian market, Growatt is probably the serious alternative - or spend up for Victron.)
Awesome result. Did you clamp your lighting load before to confirm amp draw ( and shunt precision)?
Yes certainly did. And always do on all of my tests
O my.
That's impressive for a budget battery.
thanks mate, thinking about getting the 300AH kings battery after seeing this, nvm i just noticed only a 150A bms
The new bluetop version has 300a discharge. Will be doing video on one I have tested just the other day soon too
@@WEEKENDER4X4 is that the 300ah? wow maybe i will be getting one then
@newport5504 yes 300ah one has a 300a bms in the new version. Just make sure you get the right one. I think they haven't updated their website yet because they're clearing old stock still
@@WEEKENDER4X4 thanks mate ill wait for the update on there website and your review thanks again can't wait
What sort of diameter cables you used in testing and what size lugs? I noticed terminal studs are 8mm
35mm cable for shorter runs but generally 50mm for inverter cables minimum
Good solid test results mate, I’m satisfied king’s batteries and inverters are good, im going 3x120ah lithium at this stage can hook up to 4, and 3000w inverter. I understand batteries in series need a 12v charger each for balanced charging?
Yea mate pretty sure that's how the balance properly but I'm still researching how to do it
@@WEEKENDER4X4 hadn’t considered charging a 48v setup with these, I thought you could still use a AIO system for charging at 56v. You can get a single unit of 4 x 12v balancers which should keep it all balanced, I used a 24v balancer (2 x 12v battery system) on 2 x 16v Maxwell caps I have in a bus near the inverter for extra grunt & filtering ripple, & it seems to work a treat at keeping the capacitors closely balanced, otherwise they could run 1 @ 16v while the other (in series) was only @ 10-11v.
I just Bought a new 200ah battery like yours today ive been charing it with a lithium kickarse battery charger 22amp smart charger for 6 hours and still hasn't shown fully charged but the charger fan just finally stopped blowing , have i done something wrong ? it still says charging but fan stopped and its saying on charger screen 14.4
Should level all the cells out and it will turn off eventually
Those specs are for the old black top batteries
Not bad for the price. I have seen these 200ah battery’s on sale for under $800
Yea mate got mine for $789
I bought a 200Ah today (Jan 23) for $699 with a bonus lithium torch. It's a blue top with a 200a BMS weighing in a 19.4Kg at home.
That’s a bargain mate. Good stuff 👌
Where did you get the cells to make your diy battery from?
Ali express mate (shenzen basen technology) seller
Hi. Great review i have 1 of these battery's a 2000 watt inverter and 1 400 watt solar panel 40a charge controller i am running a med size home fridge and a 32" tv . what size fuse and bus bars would fit this set up
2000w inverter should have 250a-200a fuse
Charge controller 50a fuse
Bus bars range in all sizes.
Hi. Thank you for the info@@WEEKENDER4X4
@@cabin56 in parallel
do they not sell these blue top lithtium batterys online?
Yes they do, what I can see online is they don't have the right BMS listed on their online listing.
Thanks for your thoughts and review. I was looking at the itech 100ah slim with the Anderson plugs already installed for $879 but for $799 and free shipping i can get one of these instead for my 2013 Nissan Navara single tub converted camper trailer/canopy and get some truly offgrid potential happening
The best part is, I've pulled it apart now, and figured out I can put it in a smaller battery box lol.
@@WEEKENDER4X4 Wow, 'd also like to put the 200Ah Kings into a smaller box (haven't yet purchased), what size box do you reckon you could get it into? Cheers Sean
Very interesting..well done❤
Cant find these blue top ones on their online store anywhere. Only the black top ones.
I bought mine online expecting the blacktop. Ended up getting a bluetop. So I dare say they just haven't updated the website as far as I can tell.
The best thing about Kings is that they have bricks and mortar shops . This helps enormously if you have any warranty problems . Much greater piece of mind than purchasing from some eBay drop shipper at an unknown address..
Ask me how i know.😢
Yea and if you ever have issues you walk straight in and get a new one
Hows the ant 135ah lithium in the patrol going?
Absolutely perfect, 1 year 9 months running, still pulls 134ah
@@WEEKENDER4X4 thanks mate I'll buy one then haha
The 300 a/h uses cylindrical cell. Better or worse than prismatic in the 200 a/h?
It's highly debatable, I like the prismatic cells as I have built quite a few of them. But now these kings batteries are more affordable than buying the cells from Ali express and having them shipped over, plus BMS cost and battery case cost.
@@WEEKENDER4X4 I have thought about making them myself. What BMS brand have you used?
@@Mambey Muller Energy 250a version is the best. Has Bluetooth and a screen to monitor everything aswell
@@WEEKENDER4X4are the 200ah's built with 4s1p 200ah cells? Or 4s2p 100's?
@@alecks7032 4s 1 200ah
No roof top solar? Sounds like you need it mate
Wish the place was mine haha
What is the parallel voltage between the sells on the 200ah battery??
You can't check the parallel voltage they are laser welded together
Freezer on a hot drier. Hmm. Maybe put the freezer on the floor bud
Your 200ah Lithium has an output of 200Amp continuous, however, the King's 3000W inverter requires 284 amps to run correctly.
Yea I've run it over that for quite some time. No one really needs that amount of power though continually
@@WEEKENDER4X4Would it run a 2400w air fryer mate?