HG P407 kit Trail and Bash.
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- The HG P407 kit aka Bruiser clone out for some action. Having a 3 speed transmission (that I need to setup correctly) is fun! I really like this rig and running this on 3s is something it really doesn't need specially with the hobbywing 80a esc and Hobbyporter hp-007 tx/rx. Usually use a 2s 5000mah 40c battery just tried a 2200mah 3s 60c lipo out. It's fun in 2wd to bash around but not really needed in 4wd. Hope you guy enjoy this run. Thanks for all the support!
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HG P407 kit:
www.banggood.com/custlink/mmv...
RTR Version:
www.banggood.com/custlink/KGK...
Hobbywing 1080 esc:
www.banggood.com/custlink/vK3...
JX 20kg servo 2 pcs:
www.banggood.com/custlink/3D3...
HobbyPorter tx/rx:
www.banggood.com/custlink/m3G...
HobbyPorter receivers:
www.banggood.com/custlink/m3K...
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I was lucky enough to buy the P407 from the RCSaylors when they put it up on ebay. It's been sitting on the shelf forever and you've motivated me to get it running again. Thanks a lot. I was away from your channel for a while but watching your backlog is really lifting my spirits. Keep it up!!!
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed and made you want to go Run That Rc!
It´s too easy to forget just how ground-breaking the Bruiser was back then - it had fantastic scale looks, it could crawl and it could party!
For sure. That makes this truck great because I get to drive a dream rig without feeling guilty. I would love to have a brand new original but that would never see runtime hahaha. Surprisingly planted with all the weight down low even without good articulation or wheel weights. The Bruiser definitely deserves a "they don't make them like they use to" label.
@@RunThatRC Yes - I´d actually rather have the HG for guilt-free historical running...
@@Del350K4 for sure!
Great video! You'd never want to drive a genuine one like this because they cost so much. That's why I love the HGs. Even with a few little mods carried out it's still way cheaper than a genuine so you aren't terrified of breaking it lol
If I had a real one it would be a shelf queen for sure. These are fun but lack performance in stock trim versus todays crawlers. That being said it still has its place for sure.
Nice to see it put through it's paces David.
Even though it is not a modern crawler design it definitely has its place and entertains me! This rig is a blast to Run.
Hi,Dave Nice video On the trail with my favourite Rig The Bruiser. Work's well over the rock's on 3s..Nice.ill try that on my one..it is fully modded as well Lol..Keep safe my brother.And a thumb's up from me.
When I first tried to rock crawl with mine, I thought it looked like a skateboard bouncing down stairs. Left one leaf spring and changed tires now it looks like a much better skateboard. All kidding aside, it is a fun little truck. At $231.00 for the black kit, I couldn’t throw it in my shopping cart fast enough.
its fun and nostalgic. Definitely the crawlers now a days will walk all over this.But its cool factor is on another level.
Those leaf springs are putting in the work!!! Now you should print you a rear cab and window section
I was going to get the ones I seen on ebay but will definitely try and print one now. and a proper servo mount up front as well.
Awesome video dude stay safe 👍😎💯💯
Thanks!
I have one of these, been sat half built for over a year. I need to get this finished. Great video 👍🏼
get it going! I like the vintage look of the truck and the cost makes it easier to run than its collectable cousin. Surprisingly capable, more than I first gave it credit for.
That is a good-looking truck did great on them rocks specially lifting at 1 Boulder
It's a clone of my dream truck back in the days. Glad they make these because if I got a real version it probably would just be a shelf queen hahaha.
Your "playground" is awesome.
All the off road terrain you can think of right in the palm of my hand muhahahaha! Hahaha
That's one good lookin bouncy boy you got there.
Nice video man 👌 she looks really good
Thanks for stopping by! It's a great rig for sure.
Looks like a great place to crawl 👍
Great places to crawl every around here. I love it!
Man great video I'm looking at getting one of these because I loved the Bruiser so much
Thanks brotha! These are great clones that you can actual run without feeling bad unlike running a actual Bruiser that should be a shelf queen lol.
@@RunThatRC exactly thats what I'm definitely getting one
Those wheels look sweet in slow motion 👌
Great looking truck and footage 😎👍 Hope you were able to get the shifting fixed
I found the issue right away. The servo saver spring isn't a strong enough spring steel so it just bent and caused play in the linkage. Thanks for watching!
Hello David, a short one to thank you for all the hints you gave us about this RC: I did manage to fix the steering using the exact same method you devised and it works great, way better that that clumsy outdated original Tamiya.
Now I'm going to fix the ESC with the HobbyWing 1080 since the installed one was making noise even on idle, and the reverse was full throttle or nothing!
After all I think I will keep the wheels as they are and eventually find some other tires with different designs.
With some little updates you truly get a fine RC to run! ;)
Cheers
nice! glad it helped! Great clones these are for sure. Specially for people like me that would have been scared running the real thing because its so nice. The 1080 is nice and tuning the frequency makes it silent.
@@RunThatRC Run That RC I've done mounting the 1080 ESC and it runs all right but I also found that it was the shifting gear servo making the noise all the time, even when it shouldn't be working: I even swapped it with the original steering servo but nothing changes. I may replace it as you did with a 20 kg servo (the same I use for steering) but I'm afraid the problem may go deeper since the changing gears is quite slippery and more often than not fails to engage either the high or medium 2WD. I mean the engine spindle, but not the wheels! Only if I push the rod by hand it engages: I have to delve into it some more...
The Good news is that I disassembled the gearbox and there are no damages, and it looks it has been greased as well.
Now I will reassemble it and grease it with Teflon grease: will that be OK? Should I use the green marine grease or a lithium one I have around? Perhaps a sylicon grease? Any suggestion?
Still it remains to be fixed the poor shifting on this rc: it would be very helpful if you'll delve into it in one of your next workbench videos...
Cheerio
Great run. I haven't really looked at one of these transmissions alot to see if they can be loacked in full time 4wd. My old Bruisers are locked which was easy.
I have this fully locked. so it has 2 high, 2 low, and 4 low. they provide locking pins so you can run the rig locked or open diffs. pretty simple to do too.
Waaw 👍👍
is it all steel ? body as well ?? like its got leafs on it very cool -- great lookn rig EJ :)
The body is hard plastic but the rest of the truck is metal. It's a heavy truck and runs well.
Does anyone know if NIMH batteries work with the stock ESC in this RC please?
Great video! I was thinking of purchasing this truck for bashing and not crawling. I was thinking of putting a Tamiya BZ or RZ Motor with a 2s lipo. Does this truck make a great basher? I’m not gonna crawl it or anything. Just playing it on the dirt.
I'm not sure about bashing this thing around. I did it for fun in this video but I'm willing to bet it won't take that abuse for long. It's a trail truck at best. Just a nice homage to the tamiya bruiser. If your into bashing a short course truck or monster truck style truck wound be better for that abuse.
Looks Soo much better without the bumpers and rock guards
I couldn't bring myself to install them hahaha.
That is a sweet truck . Did you have to change anything to run 3s ? And is that a sticker "Toyota "on the back? Also is your servo still zipptied?
Running a hobbywing 1080 esc on 3s everything else is stock kit. The sticker came with the truck it said TOYATO I just switched around the letters and installed it wrong hahah. Its not centered so I put other stickers to kinda offset the mistake hahaha. Servo is still ziptied and hasn't moved a bit.
@@RunThatRC oh I never thought to switch the letters . How smart of you 😃 I think I will buy this truck . Just from seeing your videos . It seems to be a nice truck . Does the hobbywing esc have drag brake ? Cause no drag brake on this truck was a big down fall when crawling.
@@joerutkowsky3261Hobbywing 1080 ESC is a crawler esc and comes with a program card to set all sorts of pretty cool parameters. The best bang for buck esc imo.
@@RunThatRC ok thank you for the info . I will be getting that esc for sure
I still have the stock electronics for my HG P407. The radio/servos are in a rc push tug, been working fine for well over two years. I know the manual states the battery is a lipo but it's actually a Li Ion(?).
My question, does the stock esc have Lipo cutoff and if so, is there anything I need to do before running lipo's thru it?
I want to use it in a small 18" rc tug boat with a 385 turn brushed motor and a small 2S lipo pack (Traxxas 2200mah)
mine was a kit. I don't have experience with the rtr electronics unfortunately. I'm using a hobbywing 1080 esc here.
I have just realised the awful gap between the two halves of the body. Do you think it would be worth widening the screw holes so I can get the halves closer together and get rid of that unsightly gap?
maybe its possible.
Today I got this as an RTR version was on sale for a lot less than the Kit. First thing I had to disassemble the axles to lock the differentials and of course two of the axles screws were red locked so tights I stripped the heads with those ludicrous Allen tools.
Any idea where to find the complete screw set as spare from HG?!
In the meantime I'm also planning on a few upgrades for which I'm waiting the shipments, and that surely include a different radio, ESC, the steering servo and some other bits mostly cosmetics.
I'm also thinking to find a way to have a shorter back axle, if possible, and to replace the wheels' hubs to the hexagonal ones so I can have better choices of different rims and wheels, possibly more to scale.
Have you any thinking about modding your Bruiser too? That would be interesting if you do...
Cheers
I do like my bruiser clone. I really don't think im going to modify it because it just looks cool the way it is. It's so 80s hahaha. They make adapters to switch the wheels to 12mm hex. I have seen someone switch the suspension and axles out for shorter ones but don't remember where i seen it and what parts he used. Im sure if you research hard enough you will find some sweet mods people do to these. Thanks for stopping by!
I see what you mean and why you like this RC: of course by choosing the KIT version you were able not only to check and verify each piece and bit, but most importantly you bypassed the ugly electronics they put into the RTR.
My RTR version was on offer and discounted so I'm not much complaining, and even by buying replacements and updates it won't cost as much as your updated KIT but I'd like to vent some frustrating considerations here hoping you do not mind.
As you I also like the WPL brand for some reasons: I purchased their B16 trucks both RTR and KIT versions. Admittedly their RTR version is barely above a toy while their KIT version almost a true RC, but as soon as you turn on either of these basic trucks, you see their headlights blinking and you're hooked.
You start to make them run straight away, although after a short time you discover some of their limits or they faults...
Thereafter you find a great support by WPL in producing many interesting upgrades to bring their RC to a more powerful and reliable level, and you start toiling in this hobby.
On the other side this HG P-407 out of the box looks impressive, with all its metal parts, and I'm sure it is a very good base to develop something quite interesting and enjoyable, but as I turned it on and try to control it I was so much disappointed. I was expecting at least to be able to move it around the house, but there was no way to turn right, or to turn left, or to control the reverse or forward speed.
A lot of lags from the radio and from the absurd steering system.
When I turn it on I also hear some servo noise even without touching the transmitter. Of this RTR I will swap all the electronics: as it is now you cannot drive it anywhere!
Possibly it's a faulty one: I disassembled both axles to lock the differentials and as I told you I ruined a couple of their screws that were glued and now I know why they used the red loctite on them! Possibly they run short of the proper screws and used instead of the M2*8 the M2*6 they had on their benches, and since they were not running to the full threaded holes, they glued them and Amen.
HG is now producing some more costly but original and impressive models, but this clone to me looks like they were just practicing their manufacturers' skills learning from those who were their model (Tamiya)...
Wow, this was a very long rant: sorry for that!
For sure I would like to see you more with this Bruiser on the workbench and on the trails...
Cheers
Do you think it does 20 mph what's 7.4 volts in 3 rd gear or do you have to put the 3s in it to do that?
even on 3s i dont think it does 20mph. maybe if i swap the pinion i can get close but this thing will probably break easily with those speeds.
Tires and articulation (suspension) not for crawling
i agree
Tough truck. Yours is.
If I had one for myself. I would run mine on pebbles and smaller rocks. Mounds of smaller rocks but that those ones you had it on? No. I would be much lenient with my one. HaHa.
agreed! I was definitely pushing the limits of this truck. I eventually broke a front cv shaft about 2 weeks and 8 batts after this video was made. This truck should be driven more scale.
@@RunThatRC Ye sir. Run over smaller rocks to scale. Those rocks are for real sized trucks. Just way too big for that 1/10th scale.
@@RunThatRC I saw another rc enthusiast of RC crawlers and trucks. He had modified that with alloy and metal parts. Along with lights. I saw another rc enthusiast with a different rc crawler. She too modified hers with lights and metal parts. Like her differentials and axles as well as her drive shafts.
Can u please tell me the wheelbase
How do you like this compared to the wpl trucks?
They are very different beasts. I like them equally I would say. This being 10th scale and a clone of an expensive older rig makes it a cool addition to the trail rigs.
Are you still going to review the wltoys L939? Or is it just a thought?
It's coming soon. It's a fun little 2wd truck.
Bonjour, super cool, avez-vous changer le moteur ? Merci
It is the stock factory motor that's included with the kit.
@@RunThatRC Merci, Thank
Are you going to try out the new hg417 version?
more likely not going to.
How did the motor hold up to the 3s?
Motor still going strong. I did manage to snap the front axle shaft but it was a 11 dollar fix. No more jumping this heavy beast hahaha.
@@RunThatRC lol, COOL!!!!
Can lock and open diferensial?
in this model you can run locked or unlocked. You need to physically install the part that locks the diffs.
That music sounds like Bucket Head almost.....is it?
not sure. It's youtube music and I never remember the titles.
The gearbox its Fine just change the bad servo put 12kg At least i have HG toyota hilux when i use top speed the gear push in the half run that because of the bad servo
for sure.
Bonjour, avez-vous changer le controleur ? Esc ? Merci
when I purchased mine it was a kit. I had to assemble the truck and add my own electronics. no esc, no servo, no tx/rx. I'm using the factory motor with a Hobbywing 1080 crawler esc. I really don't recommend 3s on this if you lock the diffs. It may be too much for it. I just tried it for this video but would never run it like that again unless I unlock diffs or have spare axles and gearbox just incase something goes boom!
je veux mettre un hobbywing 880, quand pensez-vous ? le 1080 est beaucoup mieux ?
I have no experience with the 880. I think the 880 is for dual motor setup. the 1080 is one of the best crawler Esc's out! specially for the price.
Ok merci, avez-vous changer le servo de direction ? 21kg ? ou 25kg ?
Hey you spelled Toyato wrong... 😆
What about third gear?
Unfortunately it didn't want to shift while I was out there. The shift servo saver wasn't working right. Need a stronger servo saver to make it work better.
Funny that, looks like a built crawler but it has poor performance and little flex, looks great tho.
rim comel or saiz wape rim
these are factory wheels form the hg p407. If im not mistaken they are 2.2 rims. not sure the diameter of the tires but they are big.
Meu sonho é um auto assim, pena que se eu for comprar tem que vender quase um rim de tanta taxa. 😒😔😴
sorry my translator can't seem to translate your message.
@@RunThatRC my dream is an RC like that, a pity because it can cost only $ 60 that costs a lot in the currency here.😒😔😴 understood?