Best Tow Vehicle of 2021 | Ranger Vs HiLux Vs D-Max Vs 200 Vs Y62 Vs Ram Vs 79 Series! Who Wins?!
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- The ULTIMATE tow vehicle comparison is here! We compare some of the best towing vehicles on the market - the Dodge Ram, Y62 Patrol, 200 series Land Cruiser, 2021 Isuzu D-MAX, Toyota HiLux, Ford Ranger WildTrak and the mighty 79 series!
Did we go it alone? Heck no! We've got the industry's best experts in these rigs to talk through what kind of suspension you need for towing, how tunes effect power, plus what you need to consider when it comes to Gross Vehicle Mass (GVM) and Gross Combination Mass (GCM) - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Time for Graham to build a chopped Y62 to battle Shaun’s chopped 200
would be keen to see that
Ohh yea would be awsome
Jacko's Hilux vs 200
Yes.. Now that is something to be seen.
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I can feel the fuel tank emptying 😂🤣
Out of the box the Cruiser and the Y62 have about the same fuel consumption towing around 3 t. The smiles on their faces when driving the Big Nissan and Ram said it all.
@@jjwoody6532 it's called smiles per gallon!!😊
Typical Toyota bias.
I tow a 3.2t van and have towed it with a Colorado, 200 series and a Y62 which I have all owned. The Y62 by far is the best and it is more economical than the 200 series despite being petrol. The 200 series was using 24lt/100 whilst the Y62 is using 21lt/100. The Y62 is also cheap to service and maintain. They are also a lot cheaper to buy. Also with the Patrol you don't need to buy a lock up torque converter or a larger transmission cooler. I think this video is a bit bias as most of them are Toyota fans. The Patrol is a very underrated 4wd, but those who have bought them have never looked back. PS I used to be a Toyota person through and through until I drove the Y62. Any way just my 2 cents worth.
Yep, go stock 200 and stock Y62 and the 62 will flog the 200 every time.
Y62 is an awesome jigger all round!!
I'm not sure its Toyota bias mate as much as it is diesel bias. We have a problem in this country of immediately discounting anything that isnt a stonking big diesel.
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All opinions. If there was a factual 100% accurate comparison then there would only have been 1 brand of vehicle producing 1 car of each type on earth.
Cheapest Y62 on Carsales is $47k...
And a tuned 200 wins... sounds like a fair comparison!
Tbe best advice I can offer is “just because you CAN, doesn’t mean you SHOULD”
Choose the best vehicle for your application.
right read my post, read what Claytons towing said abt utes
I tow 3.3tn van with my 2015 dmax with ease. I have upgraded the suspension to and gvm and it hasn't missed a beat. I have done well over 160,000km in 2 years in owning them and love it
Great to hear. I have a 2017 Ranger with upgraded suspension. Tows a 2800kg van easy. Upgrading to a van with atm of 3400 so hope it pulls nicely
I knew nothing about tow vehicles that are fit for purpose, nor for that matter about the finer points of towing and tips that you guys have outlined, thankyou, brilliant videos.
When giving this advice and I say it is a very good comparison you have presented, we need to remember that when towing or changing headlights people need to be reminded to re-adjust the headlight level so as not to blind on-coming traffic.
Love shauno when he says “me and the experts”... at least he admits it😂
*A wise man once said*
Sounds like something Jeremy Clarkson would say 😂
@@4x4CampingandAdventures Not enough swear words.
Except for Turbos and superchargers
The 3.2l 6 speed ranger tows like shit compared to the 2l bi turbo 10 speed ranger.. proven fact
@@Billybob-vp7ze its always great when we get the milk bottles in for fucked transmissions...tHeY ToW sO GoOd 🥴
Even better when the owners say they thought the trans was the greatest thing since sliced bread
Lots of work went into making this video and thanks for that.
I also have to congratulate you for a rare edition of 24/7 that has not mentioned a particular beverage once. Cheers.
Legend
Great review helped a lot
I have both the 200 and latest Hilux and you have answered all my questions
Cheers Rohan
You failed to mention the y62 was stock tune engine and auto with factory lock up on 35s while the 200 you showed us was on smaller tires, engine tune, trans tune and lock up kit to get it to do the job a stock y62 could do.... massively misleading, I’ve owned both and there isn’t much in it fuel consumption wise, but hey your the expert
Correct and sadly makes the whole test pointless.
They wish. But this is how they create bias and lies. False and misleading information.
Completely misleading, own both vehicles at the moment, both stock motor and transmission wise,
Y62 is by far the better tow vehicle, with nothing more then 200kg rear springs, tows our 3.4t without effort, the 200 series won't hold gears, struggles on ever decent climb, has next to know power to over take,
Both using same amount of fuel +or - 1lt or so,
Lets see them do it stock versus stock with fuel consumption with a drag race with the same vans now that would be a far test
@@IBOO57 Like most of their testing... But i still like checking out the vehicles to see what options are out there, and the mods
That Y62 is an absolute weapon, it blows me away that they aren't uber popular over here.
The y62 is definitely starting to get popular but I’ve just moved from Byron bay to Newcastle and I see y62’s everywhere down here
People have this stupid mindset that petrol can't compete with diesel. I'll keep my egr and dpf free y62 thanks.
@@BJK1987AU bruh my mum is literally like that her hilux just blew up and she refuses to buy a y62 because there auto and petrol like damn I’ll take auto and petrol anyday
@@damienkearns5748 I've got a diesel MQ Triton as well and it's ok. But I'd much rather the Y62 to drive. 62 just does everything effortlessly.
They are starting to catch on. You can't buy new now for under 85k
Great vid! Answered a lot of questions I've been pondering over. Cheers.
I'd absolutely love one of those rams, loved them since I saw that red one in the movie twister
We towed our 3T van with our four cylinder diesel banger around Oz recently no worries at all, tuned and set up correctly for towing etc of course. No float, wandering, trouble pulling out on the motorway or getting pushed about as mentioned here. Yes down on power up them hills compared to the big girls but had all the time in the world getting to destination nowhere. Weighed our options on upgrading to a bigger donk before we embarked and I’m glad we didn’t, saved our selves forking at least 60k to upgrade not to mention the depreciation that comes with it. Tow with a vehicle your comfortable with not what the brands tell you to..
I live in the states and I tow with a 2013 Ford Expedition with a 5.4l petrol. I also have a 1995 Ford F350 with 7.3l diesel.
Brilliant test, made the difference in what we will buy, awesome work, looks like you had a laugh too😂👍
I notice that all of the drivers were smiling and enjoying themselves in the the Ram. No so the the Toyota.
They are fun to drive, fast, big and comfortable. Surprisingly good on fuel too.with cylinder deactivation.
Yep can't wipe the smile off my face when I'm driving mine ! :)
@@benharris7957 I had an early hemi Ram 1500 (2003.5) and it loved fuel, but was too small for most of my needs. I'm running a Ram 2500 with the 6.7 diesel now and getting mileage comparable to the 1500s with cylinder deactivation. The 1500 was only rated to tow 8,700 lbs and I didn't have confidence in the truck beyond about 7,000 lbs. The 2500 easily handles a 14,000 lb trailer.
Y62 all the way , diesel economy without the dpf crap or turbos .
Bingo!
Yes sir! Diesels might use a tad less fuel but they need untold thousands of dollars to make them any good. Even then, a bit of bad fuel and you can kiss $20,000 goodbye in a heartbeat. Bad fuel in a petrol? Maybe $2000 if it's really bad.
@@einfelder8262 even then the chance of getting bad fuel to do damage in petrol is really low as well
Did I miss something? Towing comparison and no mention of gvm/gcm. I know most of us modify our 4wds but, standard 200. GVM 3350kg - 2750kg tare mass no accessories = 600kg payload - 350 downball weight of 3.5t van = 250kg left. As for 79. I use one for work. Try emergency braking a 1.5t trailer on hwy 😱. Lol worst tow vehicle imo. Give my 3.2 ranger any day. Way safer. I personally feel you need more than power to tow safely. I agree 100% about upgrading the suspension to suit. Its a good feeling knowing that you can't feel like you're towing something heavy but sometimes it pays to be aware or feel that there is 3.5t attached to your vehicle. Especially when your family is in the vehicle and off road. Steady steady people..no rush. After all, you're on holidays. 😄🤙
yep its not about how well it tows a load but how well it stops with a load thats the most important
They listed the GVM & GCM for every vehicle. Very few vehicles tow or carry decent loads well without a GVM upgrade. An ARB 4015kg GVM upgrade on a LC 200 takes your payload from around 500kgs to around 1375kgs. 🦾
Watching this from South Africa.
Can’t agree more with the results.
Spot on advice.
Very predictable that the 200 won for no better reason than brand loyalty. Proper heavy load testing has shown that the Y62s pulling power is superior to the 200 and fuel economy is identical if not a fracco better. And the best thing, no "T" tax.
Could you help us out with a link to this test?
@@arielle_australia sorry was too long ago. Done by a Caravan manufacturer in Victoria. They did a pull test up Mt Hotham I think.
I was really looking forward to this video knowing that unbiased opinion would pick the Y62 as the best towing vehicle but personal preferences of the experts won the race. After all they were all owning LCs
As we said in the video - if you are looking at a 200 - test drive a y62 before you buy and they are great value for money
Good luck keeping fuel up to a towing Y62 in Australia, you better own shares at BP. I sold mine to my uncle it was just ludicrous.
@@jonwhite3265 Australian fuel is quite cheap
@@scotstralian9147 ok? And?
@@jonwhite3265 what's your point?
The y62 and 200 arnt much different on fuel been proven many times now. Awsome video. I own a Y62 and love it awsome tow rig.
One thing that was obvious is the noise difference in the cab and with that I'm sure comfort. Even the ram was noisy, I'd be interested to know what the comfort is like in the ram.
Their comfort +, heaps of room, I used to drive one around Florida towing a stack of new boat trailers
My favourite part of the week besides Friday
very informative mate! lovin it!
I tow with a Ford Falcon station wagon with upgraded suspension and an extra cooler for the trans.
Anytime I go to a boat ramp there’s always a falcon wagon towing a boat
Falcons tow with ease. My FG XR6 turbo ute flies up hills towing over 2 tonne.
@@Diddydudat 2.3 tonne. I've towed 2.7 tonnes once with it, didn't even notice it. Can't beat the barra turbo low end torque.
@@Diddydudat 2300kg
Falcon Wagons are born to tow. The AU wagon is still the only car to be sold in Australia with a unlimited GCM rating. Pure fact!
Oh the times have changed from dad driving the XE falcon at 70kmph on the motorway with a van on the back!
Haha yep xf falcon for me 😂👍
This show has come a really long way, great work Graham, Shauno and the rest of the boys🤙👍🤘 I have been watching since 2010
Love the vids mate keep it up
Had an NP300. Re-mapped ecu, 33's and not towing, would set you back in the seat. Sadly while away down the coast the shortfall had become apparent while travelling home up the Kings Way, it struggled up the hills towing our camper ( 2000 ATM ). Was in 2 minds as to changing diff gears and some other mods, including 1200mm canopy on a 1650 tray, I decided on a 2019 Y62.....dollar for dollar it beat a 200 Series hands down. If you're worried about fuel economy, then a V8 is not for you..........
Hilarious , paying 75k + for a 79 and 100k+ for a 200 and you have to spend a ton to make them work 😂
Like the explore life 79.
@@JSH083 I know aye 😂 more money than brains he has
My 79 cost 28k.
It's 80k for a 200 and it's 100 percent worth it ram and patrol would chew fuel and won't last as long not as reliable etc,I would choose a cruiser for anything mate 💯
I get the impression that vehicles in Australia are considerably more expensive than they are in the United States.
That said, the 2020 Dodge Ram 1500 "Classic" which is the previous body style (the one featured in this video) is still listed as a build-and-price on ram's website. Picking a "Tradesman" trim, club-cab with the 6'4" bed, 4x4, V8, with a 3.92 gear ratio and a rear limited slip, with the big gas tank is around $35,000 USD MSRP, which is is around $46,500 Australian. Obviously this does not include the ute-tray or other modifications, but even import/shipping costs bring it up to $55K AUD that's still twenty thousand dollars less than the 79-series. Even if it's thirsty, that can pay for an awful lot of fuel.
And that's before considering the 2500 or 3500 classes, where the GVWR and GCWR go up considerably. I guess that North America is lucky in that regard, we get the heavier trucks that can be operated with a standard class license.
Hahaha.."i can feel the petrol tank emptying " ..great vids blokes
Hey this video came up on my feed so I thought I’d watch it. I have a few tow vehicles including a trackhawk which tows my 3tonne van with ease. I’ve found my v6 amarok a sensational tow rig. The only letdown is the tow ball weight. That’s easy to get around because of the payload. I move weight from the van to the back of the Ute. It makes the amarok heavier. It actually levels the springs and levels the Ute perfectly. It has ridiculous amounts of power and towa in 8th and 7th gear. Only rarely will it drop back further in the gear range on a tough hill. I drove from geraldton to perth in one tank. Overtook quite a few rangers and 200 series.
I have a modded grand Cherokee with the 5.7 hemi like the ram. It’s so much more fun off road, it pulls incredibly good but sinks juice like an outback driller. In comparison I can only make it from Yanchep to jurien bay on one tank. But the v8 sounds mint and it great to hear it. It’s only a 5 speed gearbox and I have not adjusted the gear ratios to accommodate the big wheels so it would have an affect on the fuel usage.
I think this video is missing quite a lot of detail and can be misleading to the future buyers. I saw no mention of mods and the affect on GCM. I’ve seen plenty a prado driver towing while pointing to the sky or many overloaded 200 series. The 200 series has virtually no payload and with barwork roof racks and a few other mods you have no payload. In fact a lot of 200 series are overloaded. You talked briefly about the ram GCM. Overloaded 200 series is a massive problem. They can do it but I think the whole industry is missing that. What about the ali guy not mentioning that putting a massive tray on the back seriously affects all these specs.
I think you should do another video about weighting payload etc. there’s only one driver and no payloads. Each vehicle has a unique combination which will make it perform at its best.
Doesnt matter what dual cab/wagon, or big u.s ute, upgrade the brakes atleast! More weight, longer distance to stop
Trailer brakes solve that problem.
Its a real shame you didn't have a big V6 Amarok in there, it would have surprised you guys. I own both a Amarok and a 200 and rate the Amarok highly if not higher than the 200 when towing my old 3.2t van.
This is a video on four-wheel drives, not AWD city cars.
@@DavidVoxDem Amaroks are Ok offroad
@@ryanp6138 So are Subarus, doesn't mean they belong there.
Total agree, I own Mn triton with modification include remap and heavy duty suspension. Towing water toy and camper perfectly until I tried my friend 's lc 200, so eveything is changed. For heavy load towing, v8 and heavy vehicle is always the best option. If one day I quite my tradie work will stick with lc200.
Thanks fella's good info. Every camping trips first piece of kit should be a set of bathroom scales. Most people would be shocked at the overall weight of their rolling stock if time taken to weigh absolutely everything you have to have on a camping trip I would of liked to see testing with passenger s and all the rubbish they tend to bring along
Been keen for this vid all week
Enjoy mate!
Me too
@@4WD247 cheers mate
Now you need to do a fuel test so you can see the 200 and Y62 use about the same amount and get your dyno guy to compare the standard power output
From memory the 79 is the only vehicle there that has a 3.5tonne towing plus 1.2 tonne carrying. The other vehicles “increase” the towing capacity by reducing the carrying capacity. I owned a 200 and nearly chopped it. Went back to a 79 dual cab instead. Its “fit for purpose” suits me better. 😊
Great review guys, it was very informative. I own a Ram 1500 with many mods to both the engine and suspension, the thing I love about it when towing my camper is it comes standard with a brake controller and it has tow haul mode, this works really well keeping the 8 speed box stable and also really helps with engine braking. As you stated the Ram is suited to road towing and will never compare to a Land Cruiser in the rough stuff in standard form. Loved the review keep up the good work
Would love to see a ram LARAMIE 2500 6.7l turbo review that would be sick
So long as it doesn’t break down...
@@mattheginger Cummins motor? Literally a truck motor that does a million km. I'm a ftruck guy my 7.3 uses way less then my 200 did in fuel. And 6.8ton rated overseas.
@@shanewood3974 , yeah that’s fine and all, but what about the rest of the vehicle falling to pieces around it?
@@mattheginger yeah I dunno america do a fair bit of overlanding no issues. Sold front axles etc. If you are worried about falling apart the d max is the worst built car I have ever seen. Cracks around strut mounts. Front centre cross member cracks both front inner wheel houses crack. Things are death traps.
@@shanewood3974 , just google Dodge Ram and reliability.
I’ve watched many tests comparing fuel consumption between the y62 and the 200 and they y62 just piped the 200 and used less fuel so this should have been tested properly but I’m not hating I really enjoyed the vid I want to emphasis this is not complaining I’m just stating a point of view😊
Love these vids so different what vehicles are popular I'm used to towing a bit heavier float trailer alone is 3ton with gcw of 18ton
Excellent video as usual 👍🏽
I've read a few tow test reviews on Y62 vs 200 and i thought by all accounts the fuel economy wasn't that different? Most testers i read were surprised how economical the y62 was and how much thirstier the 200 was than they expected.
With modern engines being very efficient, you burn the same amount of fuel for every horsepower in petrol and diesel. They're pretty equal, although 20 years ago, it was a different story
The clear toyota bias shines through again. The y62 was bone stock on 35s, cruiser had smaller tyres, lock up kit and a tune, really fair comparison to make the Nissan look worse on fuel.
@@lachlansheekey2839 hows is it bias, its really bias to the patrol then which has bigger motor with more hp, even though it is "stock" and when people are saying the petrol is just as good on fuel trust me it isnt. horsepower is horsepower and tuning a 200 making 300 more nm they do tow better, its showing diesel engines tow better which they do
@@ado6770 but they don't tow better. You can't say the Y62 is a better motor therefor unfair.... it's the stock motor. Looking at the point you just made, you an go throw a supercharger on the y62 and it'll shit all over the 200 series. Just as it does when both are stock.
I see the guys mention the 3.2 having better performance compared to the 2.0 would love you guys to do a comparison between a 2.0 and 3.2 Ranger including towing test to see if Ford went forwards or backwards
Mates! The PCOR builds on their 2500 and 1500 Ram 'Super Tourer's', (definitely worth the view in my opinion @ Patriot Games on TH-cam) and if I'm not mistaken, the 2500 has a diesel, and the wifes 1500 has a petrol supercharged Hemi V8. And yes they both are heavily modified, but I think that Any 4WD/outdoors enthusiast would appreciate what they have created. God bless you all!
MY 2019 Navara has towed 3,5t for the last 2 years, 220.000km on the clock with zero faults, absolutely a dream, 100% reliable so far. With the Amarok or Ranger u can forget that. We use the Navara only for towing, so from the 220.000km its minimum 200.000km with a heavy car trailer attached, transporting cars.
Id love to have more power tho.
Nice video, but no mention that the Ram has the tow/haul button standard, which locks the transmission in certain gears, which helps with transmission temp. Need to mod the 200 series transmission to be the same, fuel consumption not that far off to the 200 series.
My choice would be the Ram. Nothing beats the HEMI....
There's no replacement for a HEMI... I love my Ram, I've been rock crawling in the same places as a Wrangler and i don't care what you do to your Toyota... it wont rock crawl like a Ram or a Wrangler. And now we got the TRX.... game over.
Thanks for comparison. Bit disappointed you didn't do a comparison on soft sand and some 6 cylinder rigs .
100% agree that a tow vehicle must be heavier than the load. Try going down a wet mountain pass with a 3 ton van behind a dual cab and you will soon realise what I mean :) I'd be interested in the EGT and trans temps of the utes towing the boat - high temps on sustained towing can kill a diesel engine in no time. For me, highway towing a biggish van the perfect tow vehicle is a Touareg with air suspension.
D-Max with the Y62's v8 engine would be insane.
I take onboard what has been recommended here but as a caravan owner myself when I look around the many caravan parks I’ve visited over the past 3 years the choice of tow vehicles is interesting. Yes you will see your LC200 but by and large I see Pajeros, Prados and a selection of crew cab utes towing a whole range of campers and caravans. Why is that? Not everyone has a cool $90k to splurge on a LC200 and who wants to drive a LC200 to work perhaps in the city everyday? Not me. I’ve owned a Pajero for 5 years and it’s been an excellent tow vehicle. Absolutely bulletproof. I tow a 2200kg caravan.
Completely agree with you. It would have been good to get a recent model Pajero and a few other types of vehicles to include in the test. The 200S are not cheap and won't suit every budget, that's for sure! Shauno
@@4WD247 just not the Pajero Sport mate. It has to be a Pajero! BTW I pick up my new X terrain on Saturday. Hope it stacks up to my Pajero NX?
@@4WD247 hey mate. I picked up my new XTerrain a few months back and just got home from towing a 2200kg Jurgens Lunagazer to Alice Springs. 5800kms. The Dmax returned 14 litres per 100 and did it with ease.
i lick all that you did in this video keep up the good work the F150 v6 ecoBoost twin-turbo LOL
In Alberta, Canada I tow my ‘85 Toyota pickup on a carhauler regularly.
We travel 2200 kms to Moab Utah ever year or so as well as many local trips.
Almost all are on tarmac roads.
Several long 7-8% grades with one that is 15 kms up at 10%and 15 kms down at 10% on the other side with hairpin turns so can’t ‘get up any steam’.
I do this with a tuned Colorado with a 2.8 Duramax and 6 speed auto transmission.
Total weight is 5.7 tonnes, properly distributed with an equalizing hitch.
I have been towing for more than 45 years with no incidents.
The Colorado is definitely maxed out and must be driven like a small truck with a heavy load.
Reall should be towing with a larger truck and will be when this one is done.
Good information!
Well done guys, sometimes the truth hurts.👍
Oh and Shaun and “ experts “, Dodge hasn’t made RAM’s for over a decade. FCA - Split RAM from Dodge way back in Oct 2009 to become a seperate company and manufacturer . The old Dodge RAM’s are pretty much known as Dodge Cummins these days ( because of the 6BT Cummins engine).
The Y62 uses a similar amount of fuel when towing as the 200 series.
Common knowledge these days. 😉
It's still owned by Fiat Chrysler. But yes, separate factory and name. The fuel economy comments from Shaun were not fair were they. I thought the same as what you said that the Y62 has similar fuel use as the 200 series.
@@Malc664 Yes still under the FCA banner but a seperate company. Soon FCA and PSA join to become the fourth biggest automotive group in the world.
Wait what? Diesel v8 200 uses as much fuel as petrol v8 Y62? That sounds insane! :p Seroiusly tho, could you elaborate on that?
@@hampuslytz5393 yes when towing the 200 is poor on fuel. I went from a 200 to a Ram and wouldn’t go back.
@@benharris7957 Well poor on fuel sure, but that it would drink as much as a Y62 V8 petrol sounds mental :P My experiance (non with there speceific cars, but in general) is that petrols are a lot thirstier than diesels when really having to work while towing.
What gas mileage did you get with the 200, or what do you get now with the Ram, and how heavy stuff are you towing?
I have towed our 2t van with our 150 Prado auto, STX D40 navara manual, 79 gxl twin cab, 3.2 auto wildtrak and now our 2019 VX cruiser.
Cruiser for the win every time.
Simply no comparison.
How have you gone through that many cars
This is the video that I’ve been waiting for👌
To bad they didn't include real facts.
Just watched this after DMW Towing test with the 200 vs Y62. Think a test between the two, in standard and modified vehicles would be a great comparison. Fuel economy in petrol's seem to be getting better these day, and in most tests like these it is always mention and not tested.
I'm confused. Where's the bit where they get to Cape York?
Awesome job guys. I tend to agree with your assessment. I wish you'd looked at the RAM 2500 Laramie Cummins instead of the 1500. It's in a similar price range to the Sahara (BEFORE you do the chop and extension and GVM upgrade to the 200) and you don't need to do any mods to tow the big van. It's not much wider than a 200 either. by the time you do a 650mm extension on a chopped 200 it'll be about the same length too. They have a 4.5 tonne towing capacity out of the box as well as 267KW and 1080 NM of torgue. If you can't tell....I'm a fan of the RAM!! Hahaha
I tow around 1800 kg with a 105 series 4.2 ltr 1hz. It handles and stops fine but hates hills and overheats easily. Bigger isn't always better.
Good video however sadly missed out on the middle diesel market. As quoted "Landcruiser 200 too expensive for most" and that's why we see more Jeep Grand Cherokee (570nmM) and Disco's as trailer tugs. Be good to do a follow up and include these as alternatives to $100k Cruisers.
Was that Shaun smiling in a patrol?😁
With the noise coming out of that monster? Who can blame him lol
Blasphemy
Think he's smiled in Daryl a few times. .
Gotta love Thursdays!! Cheers for the content fellas! 🍻👌
As a ranger owner, i can say fair comparison.
I tow around 3t on road with a turned 3.2. Its decent enough but i also drive a 14t Volvo truck with a 9t trailer behind it.
Safe to say the 9t trailer cant budge the truck. Same cant be said for my car trailer and car.
Mind you my next upgrade is an older gen F250.
Sub 40k and its at 200 series tow capability.
I'm taking my 3.2 Ranger to get tuned and upgrade my suspension after seeing this I can't wait
I just changed my 3.2 for the bi turbo do not listen to these twats I can certainly tell you there is a load more grunt in the bi turbo but certainly get a tune and the throttle controller its a very low cost big improvement. I went to the bi turbo to tow my van 2850KG ATM this allowed for a GVM GCM of 7100kg and no need to get the upgrade intercooler and radiator, this is needed in the 3.2. Great utes.
So if I put fullcrum stuff on my Commodore and take it to Ultimate Diesel it’ll tow 3 tonne from the sounds of this video
If you put suspension, a tune and a tissue box on the parcel shelf - you’ll for sure tow more!
@@4WD247 I'd say no, get better suspension them fulcrum, and go to a real tuner and you could. Tissue box is only for the v8 79 series drivers
@@4WD247 smarrrrrt A
@@4WD247 ya also need the louver on the back window👍👍👍
its sort of ridiculous how much the older live axle falcons/commodoores can tow once you put HD springs, shocks and brake pads on them. well, maybe not so much the pads, you are reliant on the trailer for 75% of your braking :)
Y62 is my favourite for sure but I do love the Ram
I tow a 3 tone van with a 2017 79series since new and have done 85,000 ks with a tune and going strong . still with standard clutch.
Bought a new 79 series Land cruiser to tow my 3 tonne caravan. I've had installed Clearview mirrors and red ark breaking system. Believe I'll wait for the engine to run in before I opt for the performance tune and updated clutch. It's not perfect, but it's what I can afford.
It should be said that the 2.0 Ranger biturbo engine is built from scratch with a totally new block+head to handle the high boost and revs. It's not just an old 2 litre engine with a high boost turbo chucked on it. So it's great on fuel when cruising but has power when you're giving it heaps.
There is no replacement for displacement.
No one talking about Graham's input😂😂
Epic! The Ram for sure would drink like old mate.
Hi Shawn very good comparison and info .What about testing the same vehicle's feul economy in some more off road conditions .
You guys left out the braking! That’s one of the most important parts! Especially when comparing small vs large. More weight on a hitch equals less weight on front, which is where most of braking occurs!😁
Most of the breaking happens at the caravan, not the tow vehicle.
@@TECAdventures Ok, let’s say you are 100% correct. What is doing the steering? With a small Ute the front isn’t going to have proper contact with road. By the way I’m speaking only of large close to gvm. Even with camper doing “most” of braking its going to dive/push down on hitch more. Which leaves less weight on front end than normal load. In emergency braking you need absolute control on front end. This goes along with what I said about braking. It’s too important to leave out. Let me know your opinion.😁
@@Splagnate steering and emergency braking doesn't really sit well with each other. I guess there's not one person towing a boat will go above 50 while turning.
200s are really average on fuel consumption towing, wrong saying the y62 is worse.. it actually uses less fuel with way more power standard
The mirrors are one of the best towing inventory out there safety first every time fully adjustable great idea on a highway if you can't see behind its only a matter of time before it all goes wrong
Love these videos and the depth you guys go into! Thanks for the effort
So basically get a v8 Patrol, really like those vehicles.
Great value for money option with a STACK of power. Shauno
Nice video.
Would of been good to see the Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0 turbo diesel v6 tow as well as the v6 amarok
Yes these two are great tow vehicles. We will have to include them on the next one
@@4WD247 is that with or without a samsung phone in the console
Good video, and towing any form of load especially larger ones takes experience and smarts not just a vehicle that can do it.
If you can't drive a car without any computer assist then think lots before towing haha
They should be able too. Back when I was a kid my old man use to tow a 22foot caravan behind an xf falcon.
13:17 - Power upgrade..... So basically you buy a new ute, invalidate the warranty, then tow your overweight outhouse on wheels. I think the point here is that the factory spec light 4x4s can't do anywhere near their claimed towing capacity safely. If you want to make them do this somewhat safer, say buh-bye to your warranty.
LOL I spit my coffee out over those Graham photoshops lol
Fantastic video! Thanks a lot. How do you think about the G-Class or the Defender? Greetings from Germany.
The amped-up rivalry from Y62 owners toward LC 200 owners is like the rivalry of Melbournians toward Sydney-Siders. If you live in Sydney, you don’t really think about Melbourne, because... you live in Sydney. 👅
I had a MY2009 D-Max when I bought my 1.6 tonne forward fold camper. I upgraded to a 200 series shortly after and it is no comparison. The LC just doesn't know it is towing it even up steep hills and over taking. The D-Max would have probably been ok but there is definitely going to be less strain on the 200, and therefore less wear and tear in the long run.
Yep that’s exactly what we found
@@4WD247 Less wear on the 200s air filters for sure!
Great video as always but Shauno were are these $40k Y62's you speak of?
Yea i want one shit for that price ill but 2 lol
My choice would have to be the ram. They forget to mention to make a 200 liveable you need a lockup kit and an aftermarket air box or uni filters to protects it from dusting its self. The ram also achieves 12 lts per 100 not towing and 20.8 when towing 3 tonne at least that is what I get back in mine. The patrols are great vehicles also they also don’t tell you the fact the gx 200 is that bare bones you don’t really wanna sit in one
Really good episode!
Can't half tell they're all Toyota fan boys
Don’t blame em’
They chose petrol ram instead of diesel so they could choose 200. Ram more vehicle for money of 200 with no tune etc needed
Toyota is so damn good, it's hard for them not to be a fan ;)
You guys should do a Great Wall or ldv build and put them through their paces
I agree, it looks like it could be a good budget option
Ldv t-60
Or even a Ford bronco
Great walls are shit
Ldv👌
Good stuff love the vids
Great show good no more about towing as I got 105 cruise bit show but I'm in no rush to get places