TOWING TEST! Ford Ranger Wildtrak V6 vs Isuzu D-Max X-Terrain - 2.8t caravan tow review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2024
- This caravan towing comparison test puts the Isuzu D-Max X-Terrain and Ford Ranger Wildtrak V6 up against each other. Which wins? You'd better watch!
It seems pretty lopsided when you consider the engines of these two - the Ford Ranger Wildtrak has an optional 3.0-litre V6 turbo diesel with 184kW and 600Nm. The Isuzu D-Max X-Terrain only comes with a 3.0-litre engine - but it's a four-cylinder with 140kW and 450Nm (or about a third less power and torque than the Ford).
So can it compete in other ways? It'll need to, considering the cost of the Ranger is only a few grand more - and it comes even more comprehensively equipped than the D-Max.
There's a lot more to it than what you get for your money though - and in this towing test from Matt Campbell, you'll get an idea of what each is like to tow a 2.8-tonne-plus (2.8 ton, or 2800kg) caravan in Australia, on all sorts of different roads.
Is the V6 the big winner? Or is there more to it? Read the detailed review for a full-scale breakdown on both utes, and watch the towing test!
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00:00 Intro
00:39 Under the bonnet
02:19 Towing - D-Max
04:50 Towing - Ranger
08:15 Efficiency
08:45 Verdict
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One thing never mentioned in the towing reviews is the GVM & GCM of the vehicles tested. This is a critical aspect to being able to tow legally!
You have no idea
@@tyzon00800 Please explain
GVM and GCM are considerably higher in the Wildtrak.
You ask a fair question and it’s one I would like these testers highlight more often. The good news is the new Ranger has a reasonably high GVM, for the 3.0 V6 Diesel Wildtrack , as tested in this video, the GVM is 3,350kg - kerb is 2,353kg. The GCM is 6,400kg…which is pretty decent for a domestic Ute. I drive a new BT-50 and it’s GCM is 6,000kg. So the Ranger definitely offers a bit more wriggle room when towing something closer to the 3,500kg max rating. Now the real question is, would you want to? I also drive a Ram 2500 with the 6.7 Cummins diesel for work. It tows a 3,500kg trailer (which is dimensionally oversized), and despite the fact I’d squeeze in with weight using my BT-50, there’s no way I’d attempt it. The Ram is so much safer and more capable, and has a massive GCM of 11,500kg!! Likes to drink diesel tho 😆
@@tyzon00800 I own an LSU and he's right. Towball weight plus gear, passengers and fuel and you're overweight.
Ive got the Wildtrack V6 arriving end of the month, super excited and have it especially for a tow job here and there with horses. Can't wait and thanks for the update of towing👍
Hi @claire...I am interested in your towing research on the V6 and want to tow ATM = 3500kg with tare on 2750KG and with a payload of 500kg the Wildtrack should tow no worries (I think) noting the 6400kg GCM. have you any thoughts or links on this in your towing analysis.
Test drove both today and bought the dmax. The ford was much quieter. But I’ve never known a single ranger to be reliable or long lasting, and the dmax was 22 grand cheaper.
No idea where they found this price for the wildtrack unless it jumped up 10k in the last 11 months
I am on my third Ranger and no problems as yet, must be lucky I guess.
@@johnsmith-ub7vr not lucky reliability depends on the driver
i just bought a new Dmax its good value its my second Dmax first one was the first Dmax 2010 it has 660.000 k on the clock owes me nothing@@itsme-vw5yo
Isuzu is known for the best Diesel engines manufacturer. The best Diesel engines from general motor are those built in company with Isuzu. You Made a good choice
D max any day mate..tried test proven and reliable over here in Africa..all weather buddy 👌🏽
I agree. Also, Isuzu customer service is he best. Blew the engine on my d Max at 74000 and they replaced it free of charge and the second time in 140000 and they replaced it with out any drama. But I had to wait 2 months for the second time.
@@tranlee5622 blew 2 engines in an Isuzu? 🧐
Doesn’t sound very reliable to me….
@@tranlee5622 sounds like a bot comment
i disagree cant you see the difference?
Good to see a comparison between the new Ford Ranger and the Isuzu DMAX. The new Ranger looks fantastic in my view and I haven't driven one so I can't talk about how good the Ranger is but I chose Isuzu instead and here is why.
I own the 2022 MUX and our family van and belongings maxes out the weights+. It is a must to upgrade your suspension when towing a full van as the MUX is sprung too soft. I opted for Dobinson 2" / Monotube with airbag man assisting and I can drive fully loaded with my knee if I wanted to its that smooth and stable.
I don't go over 50% throttle as I don't need to. I keep it in 4th gear and it goes up and down hills, cold days, hot days in the one gear without any issues. If it's pretty hilly I use Drive and it drops down 1 gear and it can pull up any hill in 3rd.
One thing buyers I believe should be thinking about for tow vehicles is capability and reliability over shiny smoothness. The Isuzu is capable towing 3500kg, been there. The Ranger does have better weights which is pretty good. If you go over weight in the Isuzu you can get a GVM and GCM upgrade.
Reliability. The Ford has a smooth V6, 2 turbos and 10 gears. Thats allot of bits. The Isuzu uses the 4JJ motor that is Isuzu's 8 Ton truck engine, hence why the noise but who really cares about noise? Your car has a truck engine with proven reliability, and you don't hear it much. I'd rather tow with a truck engine than a smooth shiny V6. The Isuzu also has 1 variable geometry turbo. Maybe it's my age but I knew guys who had modified Supras. How relevant to a Diesel tow vehicle I don't know but they always said the single turbo engines were always better. That always stuck with me. About that 450Nm. That is 450Nm 'at least' between 1600 and 2600 RPM. Isuzu never talk about peak torque. The 4JJ3 has been dynod with a result of 450Nm at the wheels, factory! the 450Nm isn't counting peak torque which is somewhere around 550Nm. Also, the Isuzu uses the Aisin AC60 6 speed transmission. I only use 1 gear when towing, 4th, why have 10? Would it ever stop changing gears?! The Toyota Prado and Hylux also the same transmission. Can't go wrong there, and the 200 series Land Cruiser uses the heavy duty AB60. Another reason why in my view that transmission is much better.
During my travels around Aus, there were more Isuzu's towing vans than any other in my opinion.
If you want a truck engine with a proven transmission, choose the Isuzu. If your heavy consider an GVM / GCM upgrade.
If you want a shiny new smooth 6 cylinder's, 10 gears and 2 turbos and more weight. Choose the Ranger. Both great cars and will do the job well.
Well said noted. Clear and smooth opinion
I don't know were you get your information from, the N series truck that you refer to is a detuned version of that motor. it's 110kw, 375nm. if those engines produced those torque figures that you talk about, they would advertise them. You must be very gullible to believe those stories. All these utes have there problems, you just have to get lucky and get a good one.
Thank you for your feedback.
My information is from research or first hand experience.
The N series appear to still use the 4JJ1 motor as the 2022 MUX has the evolved 4JJ3 motor.
It appears all torque figures communicated by Isuzu is minimum between two rev ranges and not peak. The peak torque that communicated I estimated was as a result from a dyno showing power at the wheels. All I did was calculate the drive train power loss reporter in the dyno kw vs advertised kw and applied that to the torque figure to work out its peak I.e. 450Nm reported at the wheels + drive train loss = torque at motor.
All machines can have issues. My focus was on reliability meaning the likelyhood of developing an issue and stating vehicles with reputation of being very reliable use the same components I.e. gearbox.
The Ford Ranger May end up being very reliable but if my life depended on it, known proven reliability over new unproven technology wins every time.
2 turbo,s on the v6 .....sure...
@@oldbloke100I drive a tow truck hardly pick D maxes picked up heaps of rangers there reliable is not good
I took a 2600kg 22.6ft Envey caravan around OZ with my 2016 Mux....did a great job. Just wish I'd fitted my idrive before I left...
Unfortunately it wasn't a particularly enlightening review, like someone else said, how was engine braking between the two. Also acceleration runs 0-80 or 0-100 up an incline would be good to actually compare how much better the V6 is. Somewhere repeatable so you can compare all the tow vehicles you have at your disposal would be nice. Emergency braking stability aswell??
Where’s your review?
Upgrade the 3.0 D-Max with a larger intercooler, metal hoses, bigger injectors, remap to bring it to 350+ hp and 550nm+. You get a much smoother, quicker and reliable beast. I do dig how the new ranger looks and the V6 is tempting, but given how I toss my D-Max's around, I wouldn't want to be stuck anywhere.
Why didn’t Isuzu do that it’s because it won’t last.
@@doneB830no mate, emissions.
Diesel emissions are that strict, hence why a 4.5 v8 in a land cruiser only makes 151kw
Thank you for mentioning the brake pedal. You seem to be the only reviewer mentioning such a critical component and your 100% right.
it must be a ford thing wife has a 2022 ford escape and top of the pedal is soft great for washing away speed but as soon as you put more pressure in it bites extreamly hard.
press it harder
@@danielquinton2107 🤣 you must enjoy the lack of feeback. Take the crocks off and you'll know what we are talking about!
You're
I’ve just ordered a Ranger Wildtrak with tow and feature pack plus 20” wheels and electric roller shutter. I would not have chosen the last two options but all their stock orders are that spec and if I wanted a factory order, delivery would be next March or April. As it is, they are available in six week’s time with the 2.0 twin turbo engines, which is the engine I would have chosen anyway for long term use. I would have liked the next pack up for £150 more which would have given surround cameras. As it is though, I’m more than happy to save £25,000 over the price of a Grenadier for a more practical, comfortable and economical vehicle. In the UK the Ranger comes with Adblue, no electric trailer brake actuator but with the same transfer box as the Platinum, which has the option of auto4WD on firm surfaces in high range. Pity it doesn’t also have this in low range for moving really heavy trailers on a steep farmyard in reverse.
Bought a new Dmax late July , towed the camper trailer (2.1 ton) from Mackay to Uluṟu and back . 6560kms round trip . Cruised average 125 kph in Northern Territory, total fuel consumption over the whole trip averaged at 13.3 litres per 100 km which is an accurate tally of taking note every time we filled up , not just what the dashboard says . Very happy and I wouldn’t say it’s noisy after spending up to 10 hours a day at the wheel . Only time I felt the gears were hunting was in cruise control as it tries to maintain the speed you’re locked too which is common in any vehicle .
There is a huge difference between a 2.1t camper and 3t full size van. The DMax would be right at its limit with that monster in tow especially once you add luggage and the family.
The Ford has a slight edge with the engine, but in reality it is still a mid-size ute, like the D Max, that is better suited to smaller trailers.
Oh, and then there is Ford's reliability, (cough...)
True Garry , honestly anyone who tows a big van with an average double cab is mad I think . American pick-ups or light trucks are the go I reckon for the big gear . It's scary seeing some of these big vans dwarfing the tow vehicle and people think it's fine because they are lead to believe they can tow 3.5 ton . Cheers 🍻
Commend you on your lightweight choice to tow but 25ks over the speed limit irresponsible. 😎👍
@@davidkeep6526 130 is the speed limit in the NT on the main highways once you've left town/city limits. No towing speed limits like some other states. So you commend him for being 5 under 👌
@@djjames6576 lived there 38years. Only certain sections 130. Just typical of Australia that we can't have a nation wide law. A blanket 100kph when towing would help everyone. Stay safe mate. 😎👍
When you doing these towing test can you cover how hot the auto will get and does it need an auto cooler
How was the down hill engine braking with 3 ton behind the ranger compared to the dmax.
The ultimate low stress holiday, towing a van according to the brochures.
Tx for the great video as always. Why not test the new Ford V6 with the Ford 2L BiTurbo. Same manufacturer etc but to see the difference. Just a thought as the Ford 2L BiTurbo also has the same type gearbox and higher output than the Isuzu.
That has been done. Look it up.
Some more numbers (GVM, GCM etc.) but also, with that sort of weight, would a load distribution hitch not be worth testing? No mention of the lane-keeping systems needing (according to the manual) to be turned off in the Isuzu, which used to require a menu deep-dive but now thankfully only needs a button push and hold on the steering wheel.
All others reviews said the noise on Dmax is quite reasonable compared to other Ute, also D-max has won the last 2 years ute of the year.
True but all reviews basically say that the new ranger raises the bar for everything else. Having been in the new Dmax, they are a bit course. Haven't been in a ranger but every review raves about how quiet they are (especially the V6).
yeah but then the next gen ranger came out...
The first thing you have to do before you tow with a Dmax (2020 on) is ditch those OEM Bridgestone tyres and put on a good set of all terrains. Drives like a totally different car then.
Noise? Gear hunting? Guess don’t buy an Avida caravan because I haven’t noticed that at all and I’m 30000km towing around Australia. Finally I know what my choice would be dealing with Ford warranty or Isuzu? I’m taking Isuzu thank you. The Warranty department of Ford is located on the 7th circle of hell.
Oh one more thing. 3/4s around Australia when you look around camps and caravan parks the manufacturers dominating the towing scene are? Toyota, Isuzu and Mitsubishi from what I’ve seen.
Isuzu longevity does it for me. Brilliant and reliable workhorse in Africa.
Lets say longevity does prove to be an issue with the new Ranger (which is unlikely). You'd seriously take the Isuzu over a vehicle with more power & torque, quieter, more room, better tech, better brakes, better towing tech etc etc? The only thing the DMax really has going for it is the price.
There are hundreds of old Ford F100 and F250 on the roads of Africa after 40 years of life.
If I was planning on doing a lot of driving I would definatley take the V6 Ranger. I would however step up one more model to the Platinum to take advantage of the better seats, better headlights and better audio system. I would also opt for an on board compressor and rear airbag helpers to assist when I was towing closer to the limit of the vehicle.
V6 Ranger Wildtrak by far, I have the 2021 Wildtrak in bi turbo and that is a lot better than the Dmax yep I have tested the Dmax that is why I bought the Wildtrak.
@bofooit gojo Yeah there have been a few reports of the D max cranks giving up enough to be of concern but still crank failures in any manufacturer not modified is a rare thing.
I don't understand where your getting your prices from? A 3.0V6 wildtrak is $80k a dmax x terrain $65k. Big price difference. You maybe should compare the Ranger to a Ram
Just ordered the V6 Wildtrack which with an estimated delivery date of March 2023.. no brainer to to the horse float effortlessly
need to place deposit to order?
Last time I inquired a deposit of $200 was all that was needed.
Interesting, I was quoted in July 2022, delivery for wildtrak with options to be in June/July 2023
@@darrensmith4661 I placed an order for the V6 Sport in July & it’s due at the end of October 🤞. WT automated hardcover didn’t suit my needs 😬
The no brainer could be interpreted in two ways. Hope goes well with the new wild track.
Await the review of the Everest and Mux on tow with a 3000 kg van
Have the new ranger and found the same with the brake pedal, very strange feeling at the top. Manual mode after a few weeks of ownership still confusing… Also when towing find the ride extremely firm/rough, would be curious to know the ball weight of the van you tested with as my ball weight is only 120kg!
because its not a manual mode per say its actually a gear cut off mode, it allows owners to lock out the over drive gears (re: 10, 9, 8) and just use the 1 through 7 or whatever you want to low gear you want, also where is "sports" mode gone? Ford removed that transmission map for this generation which it just stupid.
As for the brake feel, it has to do with low/high speed AEB, the system in place avoids "panic" braking hence the sponge feel at the top of the brake assistance.
Hey Champ, just put the Ranger in Tow/Haul mode. Can’t believe you didn’t even mention it. I guess you have to try and make it sound remotely close.
Good vid there 👍
Am currently driving '18 Wildtrak 3.2 auto.
Previous vehicle was a '16 D-Max auto (3.0 DTeq here is SA)
Given the choice any day - largely so based on own personal experience & preference - I'd settle for:
- Ford as a daily driver,
- Isuzu for towing.
Both very capable, and competent vehicles, but each of them just 'that much' better at something than the other.
Good luck getting a Ranger V6 for less than $76k, makes the DMax a little more level!!
Isuzu have noisy engine but fyi isuzu also one of the best diesel engine and 5 star in safety
I am going to order the new v6 in the next few weeks. It is so much above the other midsize dual cabs
The D-Max is now 2 years old vs the all new Ranger so of course it would be better. I have to disagree with the feel and noise in the D-Max, I tow my 3.2T van with mine and have done quite a lot of long days with no issues what so ever. It’s miles ahead of the previous Gen Ranger I had. Handling and drivability is so much better.
the new ranger is another step up again, its a bigger ute and even more tec
Same here. I don’t know what he’s talking about. I’m towing a 2.8ton caravan around Australia and very surprised how he criticises the noise and gear changing.
@@biglap.australia you can hear noisy Isuzu diesel in the video. I could say many grey nomads are deaf.......but I won't.
@@kylebutler7142 I could say many under 30s have hearing loss from wearing ear pods too long but I won’t.
@@biglap.australia touché
All good, but there are many other things to consider. Importantly ... which one will deliver a trouble free trip for longer.
I say this because I have and Isuzu and a friend of mine has a Ford Ranger. Both of the same year. And every time we go out with our vehicles the Ranger has a problem and the Isuzu, so far never.
So it is nice to say that a flower looks nicer than other flower, the issue is .. for how long.
Towing a caravan is suposed to be part of enjoying life getting to some exiting places.
We want to get there and come back trouble free. A bit more noise, is waaaay more tolerable than a bit more of troubles.
And is nice to spend less on Diesel too.
I put a long range tank on my Isuzu. A 113 litres tank. I can get to the cheaper petrol stations, no problems.
I’ve done 230,000ks across 2 3.2l ford rangers, I’ve owned both since new. Not a single issue. Maybe your mate owns a high k model or doesn’t look after it?
old wives tale your friend in a secret friend, right?
In the UK the Isuzu is popular with certain farmers because it is cheaper to buy, but it comes with the not-very-good 1.9 diesel and that engine gives a lot of issues with fuel contamination of the oil due to repeated failures to regenerate the DPF. I have a hard working Ranger 2.2 and changed the engine oil pump at 80,000 miles due to its reputation for failure, but I’ve actually had few issues. It had a modified EGR valve under warranty back in 2015 or 16. It blew a, intercooler top rubber hose the other day, which put a light on the dash, and over the years it has gone through five rear leaf springs, which tend to snap while lightly loaded. It’s a 2.2 automatic with coming up to 100,000 farm and livestock towing miles. The trailer is a 14ft IW cattle trailer with triple axles and grosses out at just over 3.5 tons with four in-calf dairy cattle loaded.
Build price including on road costs in WA $78,804 for the Ranger Wildtrak and $67,083 for the DMAX X-Terrain - $11,721 difference.
I will agree. Also, Isuzu customer service is he best. Blew the engine on my d Max at 74000 and they replaced it free of charge and the second time in 140000 and they replaced it with out any drama. But I had to wait 2 months for the second time.
And resale value, depreciation?
@@tranlee5622after that shocking reliability I would buy a Ford.
I would like to see a petrol ute against a diesel ute from the same manufacturer, just to see how they preform.
I think I would go with the dmax
I already did and put a deposit on the D-Max X-Terrain.
@@lonelywolf1480 oof
Towing 3.5T with any of the D/Cabs on the market is insane, although tecnically legal. GCM for DMax, for example, is 6000kg. So if you tow 3.5 tons, legal payload is only 388kg. A typical family of four probably weighs north of 250kg. Then there is effectivily no payload left for any luggage. Realistically, to keep the car in control of the trailer and not the other way round, the trailer should weigh less than the car…
Imagine if that rule was for semi-trailers as well.
Semi trailer isn’t a pig trailer like a caravan totally different . Shouldn’t tow greater than weight of tow vehicle.
Unfortunately as per previous Rangers the reliability and long term ownership is in question, the 10 speed auto isn't renowned for being a good unit at all and the V6 has a lot going on, the D-Max isn't as refined or grunty but we know it will do it for ten years day in day out, like my last two.
The D-Max is no better for warranty Isuzu Australia zero help
@@bernielennox1031 ive had no issues with claims at all, from gearbox to aircon, not saying they're perfect but you're way less likely to have to make a claim to begin with, in particular driveline where Isuzu is generally rock solid .
I will agree. Isuzu customer service is he best. Blew the engine on my d Max at 74000 and they replaced it free of charge and the second time in 140000 and they replaced it with out any drama. But I had to wait 2 months for the second time.
@@tranlee5622 I thought Isuzu is reliable Engine?,
@@sealoftheliving4998 They are, but you get people out there that can blow up anything. I've had isuzu's go to 550k, 270k and the new one has 170k, no issues, no blown turbos.
When driving the Ranger , was the Tow / Haul Mode selected?
Is this video made it in USA if not we need this good looking trucks here
Cars Guide can you to a GWM ute trailer towing comparison to outgoing Hilux or new ranger
New Ranger and the V6 look great. Time will tell for durability and reliability though.
Well that is a crock the new Ranger has pretty much been around since 2012 so 12 years a fare time and they have proven reliable but when compared to the 26year old Dmax with its class action for the front end falling off and a lot more faults and bad customer service, this is actually the same vehicle it was when Holden had them as a variant. The so called fail rate of the new ranger is the best this country has seen.
Like most internet comments the majority are from feelings not facts, to find reliability and other issues go to the government records you can source most information links from the ACCC site to dig down on information.
@@Sabumnim666
I was referring to the diesel V6 being new and untested in Australia. All cars have their faults. Touch wood, my 11 year old Dmax with 200,000 will continue to go on without issue. I haven't researched faults in the new Ranger V6 but I have heard the oil return pipe has caused some issues.
The engine is far from new and it had its fair share of faults when first used in the European market it has had 3 different cranks and has been a well sorted and reliable engine for years now it has also been mad indifferent sizes such as 2.7l in the territory, 3.3 twin turbo in England and has been the 3.0l in the F150 and the Land rover discovery.
I am just pointing out that the misunderstanding of vehicles is very often quoted from hear say etc take the engine in your car it actually started in early to mid 1990. Yet Isuzu would have you believe the latest model ha s a new engine. @@outdoors5352
That's a valid concern but this variant in it's current configuration has been in use foe about 10 years with no outstanding issues.@@outdoors5352
I'm a little bit underwhelmed by the new Ranger. It just seems to have a bunch of "not quite right" gremlins. I'll be waiting for the series 2
such as?
@@1989cranston More sound insulation hopefully!
@@1989cranston brake pedal,screen freeze,terrible mic for phone,recall on glow plugs,turbo issues,too soft in the rear end,kits not available yet for relocate cross track if fitting a tray to tub models,
@@christhomas4260 I dunno mate, I just googled your so called glow plug, turbo, sync 4 freeze issues and couldn't find a single article on any of them.
I feel like you could just be a hater trying to spread miss information.
Is there towing mirrors on either vehicle?
I would lime to see it compared with the Toyota Ute..
Hi, Can u give the GVM, Payload and GCM. of the Ford Ranger V6 please.
@19.5 lt/100km the Ranger will have a 410km range with a 80lt tank. @18.6 lt/100km and a 76lt tank the D-Max will get a 408km range. I can’t imagine a 2km difference in range ever being a big benefit unless you like playing Russian roulette with the fuel gauge.
So the Ranger gets virtually the same fuel economy with more power & torque 👍
Can't argue with maths.
It will get a similar range per tank. That isn’t the same as equal fuel economy. But in a practical sense, yeah. You can travel about the same distance for about $25 /1000km less in the D-Max but an extra 40kw and 150Nm will make the journey a whole lot nicer in the Ranger. Personally I’d pay the extra.
@@DW-10 me to!!
I’ve ordered the the V6 Sport 👍👍
@@RocketRod63 congratulations mate. Can I ask how much the drive away price was. I got a price and it was about $9k more than RRP
How did you find the set up for electric brakes in the info system and the strength of braking of the controller?
Thanks
Some controllers are working only with the dash mounted switch, applying foot pedal braking doesn’t get full voltage to the van brake system.
A WDH might stop the vehicle moving around. Both looked a bit bum down.
Awaiting my x terrain you now have me question my desicion I was torn between the two vehicles I was recommended the Isuzu from many mechanics as they are a specialist in diesel engines now im not sure I have purchased the right car for our travels.
Thanks for the info 👍
I agree. Also, Isuzu customer service is he best. Blew the engine on my d Max at 74000 and they replaced it free of charge and the second time in 140000 and they replaced it with out any drama. But I had to wait 2 months for the second time.
Specialist in diesel engines, that are out of date, where technology has moved ahead, Isuzu has not invested in updating this dinosaur engine. Yes it was good in it's time, but time has clicked on.
Appreciate the feedback but my new XTerrain arrives on the 29/11 oh well we live and keep learning 😀
@@trickster8635 I'm not buying either, but Isuzu have just done a complete update on the engine
It was the 4JJ1 for many many years, yes it was even as far back as the (old) Holden Colorado (cripes, I think it even featured in the last of the Rodeo) but the current range is now the 4JJ3.
It's more refined, develops marginally more power, but don't forget, Isuzu purposely run these engines in a low state of tune so the engine is not stressed, as Toyota does with the 4.5l V8 in the 70 series. As a result both engines respond well to tuning by diesel specialist (yes they do exist) and when done that humble Isuzu engine is extremely close to the tuned V8, lots more grunt.
Ask any diesel specific service centre around the country & you'll see the 4JJ1 motor is totally their choice for reliability, the 4JJ3 is yet to establish it credentials, too new to the market place but being based on 4JJ1 one would think it's going to be right up there.
Swapping the crappy stock Bridgestone Highway terrains, to a good LT rated AT tyre will make a big difference in towing on the D-Max. Did for me anyway.
definitly the dmax is off my tow rig list
I wonder with 100k plus km which one would have less problems?
Just purchased a 2021 Dmax over the Ford Ranger. Absolutely love it!. Note: If you ask any Tow Truck driver, the Rangers are up there on the break down lists. $20k for a new motor if you blow it up too - no thanks.
Paid for comment does not mean it's a review.
why most of comparison is focusing in HP and Torque,the power of this pick up trucks is way enough to haul bigger and heavy loads, reliablity ang durability is a value for money ,who do you think? 🤔
Missing the junk 10spd for transmission which has been nothing but trouble in USA and Australia and then the price difference of dmax x terrain nd ranger wild track
Have just ordered a Sports V6 Ranger because it is at present the better towing compared to vehicles in its class, would buy F150 but price is the difference
Engine + Transmission combo is what make the WT great. Just tow with the 4cyl and you will see how capable it is too. That 10spd trans is a gem.
That 10sp is the biggest problem of the vehicle
@@zhouchaoqun7240 I think you're the problem.
the 10 speed is a gem? its actually crap.
@@zhouchaoqun7240 what's your reasoning behind that?
@@tersy9862 They are very problematic in the USA,it's designed for 90+mph roads,not a 100/10kmh roads for one..
your comparing a V6 with a 4-pot, not at all comparable - why not the Ranger and Amarok?
The bottom line is that that Isuzu will outlive that Ford anyday. Check back in a few years to see which Ute is still going strong 💪 and you won't be surprised that the Isuzu is champ 💪
Yep, that's why I put a deposit on the D-max. That's despite the fact that I liked riding in the Ranger better.
However, I am planning to tow a caravan and adventure into outback a bit. Reliability is the utmost important thing for me.
Also, when you consider the pricing as well, it was not a very difficult choice.
Plenty of old Ford F100 and F250 still on the road after 40 years.
@deonbrunette3968 I don't disagree cos the Ford F series are indeed very good bakkies and cannot be compared to the Ranger. Ranger doesn't come close to the F100 & F250 for longevity.
Yeah 4 litres really makes a big difference lol.
Get a tune on that d'max and few other little minor tweeks to it and run this test again
The Ranger is noticeably slightly squat (rear is lower) compared to DMAX.
Why mention the "advantage" of the 80L tank in the Ranger? Given every fuel consumption spec you displayed (official, on road, and towing) the Dmax will still go further with 76L. Am I missing something?
400 k towing range max. Filling every 2-250 ks to be safe
Does the Ranger come with a 6 ft bed?
Should have tested it vs the outgoing amarok
I like the look of the new ranger but time will tell I guess of the reliability of the new V6. Crucial details are also missing when towing a 2.8T caravan with these dual cabs, like realistic GVM, GCM etc.
Actually it is NOT a new V6. First appeared in Land Rovers when Ford owned it. And is related to the 2.7 litre unit found in the old Territory. Tweaked for todays emissions, and is a proven engine in the USA.
@@trickster8635 ah, thanks for the info mate, I did not know that 👍
@@trickster8635 Please tell me it's not related to the TdiV6 from the old Disco 3 / RRS!
@@mjhmech4903 Yes it the LION engine as in Discovery however I believe the Ranger now has a forged crankshaft vs the cast crank that was known to brake in some Landrovers.
DMAX for the win!!!
I am a v6 guy, i love my v6 motors, so if i need to get a truck to tow something i would defs go for ford ranger
Me too!!
Yes
Nice to compare dmax over ranger but dont complain about engine tend to work hard coz you compare a 4cylinder over 6cylinder in v, surely ranger will win coz of extra torque and even hp.. will unit price is a big difference i notice.
All the bragging rights go to the Ford for the refined V6 diesel how it's better suited for towing.
Most towing vehicles in Australia tow camper trailers and caravans.
That means you are towing far from home and reliability it critical.
The Dmax is the better vehicle and if you want more power they are easy to tune. A 3.0L Dmax with a towing tune will still be a more reliable powertrain then a V6 Ranger that is stock. Just look at the history of the V6 diesel Navara D40 or V6 diesel Amarok repair times & costs due to access to turbos, starter motors, EGR coolers, EGR valves, alternators ECT.. May not be a concern on a new vehicle but these items can fail with time. There is a reason the inline 4 has been the choice used for decades. These day practicality is out the window and price is not a issue if people can brag about it.
Get fuel contamination, Dmax has 4 injectors, 1 fuel rail & 1 pump.
Ranger V6 has 6 injectors, 2 fuel rails & 1 pump.
Turbos, Dmax has 1 vs 2 for the Ranger.
Transmission, I'm yet to hear of any 10 speed rebuilt in Australia. I sure hope it doesn't fail, Ford hasn't had the best reputation for transmissions and that was prior to using 10 speed units.
It would have been nice to have a db number to go by instead of “ noisey”.
D max is the best.. ranger with that V6 engine I am not a fan...twin turbo 4 cylinder it's still ok .
You are dreaming
True. Isuzu are well known and popular King Engine Noisy
Please verify the price
And no lies.
The ranger can never compare with reasonable price of the dmax
What is going on
that d max is on drive a way deals idiot, cause they carnt sell them chack out the last 6 mths rego date sell more great walls then dmax
@@alanbrown1328 not in my country 😪
Tell me Towing on Hills... How is Ranger performance becoming? I want to see Ranger V6....
Good to see real world towing test. A 2.8ltr Prado/Hilux with 2.9T towing at 90km/h gets 18.2km/100.
The Ranger weight has 200kg on the Isuzu plus you can buy a Isuzu on road for $65k you can’t buy a XLT 3Lt Ranger for $65K.
The ford XLT is around 70k Not much more really when considering how much better it is then the Dmax
Yeah, you can't buy a v6 Ranger under $65k, but you can't buy a V6 DMax AT ALL!
The prices of the two in this test were only $3k apart. And the Ranger had electric brakes standard. That's a very small price difference for an extra 100Nm...
@@alanjm1234 not to mention rear wheel disc brakes on the Ranger 👍
@@silkyfox7603 we live in WA a V6 XLT is 72K basic on road, a V6 Sport $76K on road. DMAX is currently on special at $65K.
@@bushmagpie3312 even on special it doesn’t compare to the Ranger with it all wheel drive ability, more powerful motor, built-in blindspot monitoring for trailers, electric trailer brakes, large brakes and it’s a larger car not to mention the tech in the car and with all that put together you’d be crazy not to spend the extra 10k
Ranger vs Everest next,
you have missed the opportunity to say what combined weight was ? what the tow ball weight was ? , van weight , were the tanks full , how much weight ( load) was left in the cars ?that you could actually put into them ? , or how much load weight was left in the van to fill up , then we would know what the car are like before spending a flipping fortune on all the stuff people like to add on or take , to make them over weight and illegal on the road ,
At least the Dmax will make it to your destination…would not trust anything other that a Isuzu….
I would prefer a test of a sub 2 ton caravan or a camper. 3 tons without the weight of food water humans etcs is insane. The physics would predict its outright dangerous for a vehicle to tow an object greater than its own weight.
I was very disappointed with the v6 ranger, the current amarok is a nicer drive v6 vs v6. Engine is better in the amarok. The fuel burn in the new ranger v6 is terrible near on par with the latest ram 1500.
clearly you dont own one
@@alanbrown1328 not after having a test of 1 for a while and just looking at the fuel sticker on the windshield that is always very conservative definitely not. The old 550 nav was more impressive in its day.
Funny how the Hilux is left out of towing tests lately.
Because the new hilux is basically a Toyota Legend pickup with another name and much higher price
wish we could get a d max in the US , we only get gas 2.3 4cy rangers we have a choice of super cab with 6.5 box or crew cab with a 5' tub
Relax, you get the best pickups/utes on the market & they cost stuff all over there, why would you want a pissy D-Max or Ranger when you can have an F-150?
It’s all about cubes!
Best thing my brother inlaw did was trade his DMax ( that should NEVER be allowed to tow more than 2500kg ) in on a RAM. Yes thirsty around town but the increased comfort ,safety and fuel saving when towing means it is a better choice for what it's intended to do ! Funny how in times of increasing fuel costs the " economic " 4 cylinder diesels are on the out and bigger on the up ! 8 years working in parks and resorts and now 5 years living in them there is definitely ( thanks no doubt to the wonderful smaller offerings ) a trend towards smaller vans behind the 4's and petrol 6's and 8's for the bigger stuff. 😎👍
Are you saying a V8 petrol Ram uses less fuel than a 4 cylinder diesel Dmax??
It's slight misleading saying that a V6 makes more power when they are both 3.0 TD engines. The only thing the 2 extra cylinders are doing is creating a more balanced engine for a smoother ride
The ranger is just a better tuned engine that makes more power and torque probably due to a better turbo setup. If you tuned or modified the 4 cylinder on dmax it could easily put out the same numbers.
The transmissions are having a much bigger effect keeping the ranger in the torque band more often.
Then how do you account for greater torque at lower revs?
@@trickster8635 a V6 definitely doesn't provide more torque at lower revs. The things that would do that are a longer stroke or smaller turbo if displacement are the same.
I think you are getting confused with the comparison of a 2L inline 4 vs a 3L V6. The displacement is the key factor not the cylinder count
An F1 engine is a turbo V6 and only idles at 4000rpm
After you have tuned your Dmax to 600NM go and ask Isuzu for a five year unlimited km warranty and you will find out why they couldn’t up the power themselves and get these lost sales.
@@doneB830 well it's more then just a dyno tune haha. If you read what I wrote it a more modern engine with newer turbo technology, fueling, ect..
And you don't mention the arse end sags in the Ranger
Both engines are the same size V6 or I4 makes no difference it’s about cubic capacity.
Let me see, a well proven Isuzu known for good torque, one of the most reliable on the market, also well known for best economy in class over the years, and having plenty of reserve if remapped, plus an Aisan auto, arguably one of the better reliable auto's on the market,
OR a modified detuned Ford LION engine well known for crankshaft breakages, poor oiling in the Landrover Discovery's, I'm sure Ford have attempted to reconfigure the oiling and strengthen the crankshaft however as a well known German engine designer has suggested is still a poor design with small journal sizes combined with a truly poor oiling configuration.
Notably this newer version has less output than Fords earlier Landrover LION 3 liter V6, maybe this also relives the stress on the original poorly oiled fragile crank under load at lower revs but not as yet proven for longer term reliability.
And a 10 speed auto that has already had its share of problems, the previous Ford installed 6 speed ZF was poorly factory cooled and had early torque converter problems however can with aftermarket mods be turned into a strong reliable trans but as many Ranger owners discovered 'limp mode' was a not uncommon problem when heavier towing due to heat sensors protecting this undercooled auto.
Imagine if your 10 speed fails out of warranty, quite expensive I imagine!
I may well be wrong however the VW V6 and8 speed auto may have been a better choice having been well proven over a number of years and delivering very good torque and power.
Jus sayin'
what you really should be testing mat is the 2.0 bi turbo compared to the d max
Why would that be? They are both 3l turbo diesels. The 2l turbo diesel is 1/3rd smaller capacity than the Dmax?
@@peterj5751 Yes, but it's also V6 vs I4.
@@dallasfrost1996 same capacity means both engines can intake the same amount of air, add fuel and make power. 6 small cylinders v 4 big ones. It’s certainly a fairer comparison than comparing and engine with one of only 2/3rds of the capacity.
@@peterj5751 similar power outputs similar vehicle weights 10 k difference between the ranger and d max
Hey I know, for your next equal comparison, compare a Morris 1100 to an F650 in a towing comparison. Would be just as Ridiculous as this is. You can't compare a twin turbo V6 with a turbo 4, and isn't the Ranger nearly twice the price of Dmax! 🤦♂️
Same price they each have one turbo and the engines are the same size.
You failed to mention your towball download. 3 tonne van on flat roads is one thing but you failed on many accounts like braking, climbing and acceleration.
D-Max
Sounds doesn’t matter. So what if you can hear the engine doing it job
All fords brakes feel spongy like air in system but work good
It's a big difference between V6 & 4cylinder
Why wouldn't you have got a v6 Amarok for comparison? This seems pointless
Happy
you forgot to mention the price of the vehicles, estimated maintenance costs, differences in drivetrain like differential locks etc. all in all this looks like a car review a 15 year old would do.