Ford Focus ST VS. Volkwagen GTI: How Similar Are They | Opposite Lanes
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The Ford Focus St and the Volkswagen GTI often go hand and hand when looking at the two and deciding which one would be best fit for you. They are both turbo charged, they are both fun to drive, and are also very good looking cars, but what one takes the cake? You’ll find out on this episode of Opposite Lanes!
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I would choose the GTI, just because its rather roomy plus I'm a Euro platform kinda guy
GTI. I'm 55 years old owned over 30 cars in my life of all shapes and sizes. My is38 GTI DSG is the best car I have ever owned.
Neither; Type R
Focus ST is the only hatchback that I have owned because it's the only one that looks good enough to own. The golf is too bland, the civic is too small, the veloster is too ugly, the Chevy sonic/spark is too weak. It was a clear choice from the beginning, the ST wad the way to go for me.
I’d choose the normal dash
Well I actually own a 2017 focus ST. It has every mod except for replacing the factory turbo. Literally. It surprises a lot of people as to how quick the car actually is. And yes it is absolutely loud in your face and awesome to daily drive. Scares puppy dogs and little old ladies and as a 50-year-old Combat veteran that’s just fine with me.
fsteddie95 I have a 14 Focus st with everything but the turbo upgraded and I think he hated on it way more than what they actually are. I love my st. Not much I don’t like about it.
I'm 63 and I own a 2014 Focus ST, Stage 3. I love it 😍
Love the ST but I’m GTI all day. I own a MK6 GTI with stage 2 mods. The community is big and aftermarket support is everywhere.
Mk6 steering feel is miles ahead of the mk7. I miss my gti everyday
How long you been stage two and any problems? I have intake and DP done just need the tune, thinking apr stg 2.
I'm about to buy a downpipe and go Stage 2 soon, I'm currently stock so I'm hyped to try it out. Gonna go with an Accessport and Stratified for the tune.
Lion-Heart been a vw guy forever and we have a mk6 golf r that’s been stage 2+ for about 70k and 0 problems. It’s apr tune also
Stage for two seasons, not one issue...
2017 had me shopping a pre-owned GTI vs a brand new ST with 11 miles on her. I'm now sitting at 59,483 miles, and quite honestly really happy with my choice. The ST puts the same smile on my face every as she did on my test drive. Considering that I can always go out and buy a new GTI at anytime, I'm glad I went for the ST.
I owned a GTI, and I currently own a ST. Both similairly modded,.The GTI was faster in a straight line and was just over all fancier. BUT.... The ST is just so much more fun. Both Communities are very interesting you have great people and the occasional douche bag.
Planning on getting a 2015 st, what makes it so much more fun than the gti?
@@kayvega1156 the torque
I was choosing between these two for my first car and ended up with the GTI. I work in auto upholstery and I honestly can't look past the cheap American interior.
Really? I think the Facelift interior is pretty nice for the most part.
@@cy9nvs The GTI is leagues above though, it's a huge difference. Refinement is big, not to mention it's faster
@@roboticvenom1935 I test drove both, the gti mainly looks nice from the inside, in reality everything that's soft and nice in there also is soft and nice in the focus. Only difference was the pelted door bins. I ended up buying the focus st station wagon because it's cheaper, bigger and not too much of a difference when it comes to driving. Though objectively the gti performance with the lsd is better when it comes to handling.
How the fuck do you yanks get such nice cars for you first car??? Insurance for a first time driver on a GTI in the U.K. would be like 4 grand at the least and that’s with a fun sapping black box too
Dylan Wakley I’m 17, and my ST was 5k a year for insurance but managed to negotiate for full coverage to $1200 a year
Here’s the difference: one is made of plastic the other is over complicated however they both are fast, affordable great cars.
Doesn’t the focus have a bad transmission? Deal breaker for me
@@charlierobinson8375 that's the normal focus. St's and rs's transmissions are real good
@@charlierobinson8375 manual and automatic are like day and night, automatic is trash while manual is real reliable
@@charlierobinson8375 same issue goes for the gti unfortunately. i own a mk7 and i’m waiting to tune it because the stock clutch can barely hold the stock torque, so once it’s tuned the clutch is a ticking time bomb and slipping is almost guarenteed
@@Webl638 that’s why you get the dsg, Manuel trans just ask to waste more $ on stage clutches when you tune
The two cars on my "I swear I'm buying this next" list. I think I'm going Golf for the parts availability but damn, that ST is a spicyboi
When I have the money I'm going for the ST. Though it isn't as reliable...it's sportier.
Soniult
I still don’t have a check engine at 73k on my GTI
Soniult st have cheap interiors. That’s all I gotta say. Throw a tune on the gti and you’ll slap the shit out of a lot of cars.
@@emldV2 i dont know about reliability but commute mine and stay at 140mph most of the time. Never had a problem just keep up with the maintenance. Then you gotta get tuned right or 💥. Beside that it also has a aggressive look off the back.
Vw community better 🙄
I own a 19 GTI DSG, BEST DAILY EVER! Both are probably great, but I preferred the longer warranty, better interior and fit more comfortable (6'4) plus GTI responds very well to mods. Power to Power bolt ons, GTI wins. BUT ST is probably easier to work on.
@@Neil__Craig cant complain with 7 gears, and 36-38mpg on the highway with a bumper to bumper 6yr 72K mile warranty 👍
Cbert43 I don’t mean to be a buzzkill but power to power the st actually wins by a good chunk with stock tunes and each jump of the way up. I also own a gti so I agree with everything you say just the sts beat us in power
Cbert43 I have a 17 6 speed and I never want a different car the looks alone make me never want to give it up
VW rates power at the wheels. Ford doesn’t.
Why do I have 6 neutrals i have an apr stage 2 tune (downpipe and exhaust) on my 17 6MT GTI and it is hard for any focus ST to keep up at any speed
I saw GTI. I CLICK
New drinking game: Take a shot every time Alex says "A couple, two tree." 😂
Take a couple two tree shots everytime he says it.
@@TheGrimPeeper ooof...challenge accepted 😎
😂😂🍻
The fact that the entry level GTI interior is way nicer than the top tier ST should be a pretty strong indicator.
For me, GTI, all day long. I am definitely biased though. VW!!!
St trims doesn't change much in the interior. You get you what see, no options.
@@2010ngojo Yikes
2010ngojo you get a good amount of options going up the ladder... like heated steering wheel, seats, and mirrors, full leather recaros, sunroof, automatic a/c, sunroof, 8inch Touchscreen with nav, upgraded sound system with subwoofer, power seat, upgraded HID headlights, wheel options, and some different interior options.
I don't buy performance cars for the trim, the STs interior is better than most pre 2000s cars, handling and performance are king
@@2010ngojo no options? Um. Recaro seats navigation, Sony audio, all kinds of shit.
Sorry i'm late i just finished watching D-list
Me too
Wtf me too!
Thatone Carguy great episode
Same though
D-list? You mean Donut Media D- list?
ST2. Got it 2 months ago. Started modding it recently. Car is wonderful. Torque steer isn't even an issue anymore because you get used to it. Handles insanely and its stupid fun,.
I’ve owned both back to back. More smiles with the ST, way less problems with the ST, more thumbs ups with the ST. In 1 year of owning the GTi it was out of commission 4 times, towed twice
I daily'd a Mk6 GTI (Stage 2) for a few years (now it's the wife's) and I loved that thing. I still take it out for mountain runs when I can because it just feels tighter and more refined than my WRX hatch. I love both, but the GTI is much comfier. It's the one we take on longer trips.
Awesome ...I must say you guys never failed to disappoint me❤❤❤
Had an ST for years, drive a couple GTIs and fell in love with them, mostly because they really do well on the highway, very comfortable. With a tune/dsg I was really impressed.
This is a really cool concept I’m super hyped for. Almost like it could be a segment on Top Gear. Y’all are awesome!
I love both cars, and when I bought my GTi I was in between the two. The GTi I found was newer and was already APR stage 2, costed the same as a stock ST1 the same year. So I went with the GTi and love it.
0:10 choco obviously -_-
I have a 2015 gti se 3 door and my wife has 2015 focus st with st3 package. We love both cars. ST is a little rowdier but the gti puts down power so smoothly. We love them both
More awesome bangers with the new series keep ity up Alex
amen brother
Those Germans know how to build em GTI all day, but I am biased 😂
They're both made in Germany...
@@CorgiOnStilts_ not true
The MK7 is built in Mexico the ST is built in Germany and England
ST has the power but interior is lacking, GTI is still quick but has a very luxurious feel.
Interior in gtis are cheap I own 4 and st feel more sporty
N1 gr i have owned a gti in the past and loved everything about the interior. Driven in a few STs and felt cramped and didn’t love the design. I suppose it’s personal preference though!
WickedSlow_wrx I agree with you gti feels so much better inside than the focus although it’s slower than it
I would consider the interior of the gti to be more premium looking than the st. Luxurious is a strech. Maybe compared to cars from 15 years ago.
Nah tune mk7 gti and it’ll walk most STs alllll day
Good video. I'm more accustomed to seeing "stanced" GTIs than STs. Cool seeing the opposite perspective. Currently have a mk6 GTI, next daily will be 17 or 18 Golf R. But plan on building another GTI for the track eventually.
Proud 2018 GTI owner here.. and a fan of the Focus ST exterior stylings
Was literally looking for hot hatches either a GTI or ST and they make this beautiful
GTI... most fun daily I’ve owned.
I love both cars, when I was looking for a car, I had both options, and I test drive both, but just the GTI was something else, 1 1/2 years with my GTI and I don’t regret getting the GTI, even tho ST is amazing
Bought my '17 ST in the summer of '19. I've always liked the golfs, but I'm more into domestic cars. I ended up loving it way more than I expected and I don't plan on ever selling it
Love your vids keep up the great work👍
Came frm a mk7 gti loved everything about it loved that u can take long drives and it won't beat u up and it doesn't look like a boy racer. I now have a 7.5 Golf R feel the same about it love the launch control offered on the dsg transmission
I've owned both actually. A 2015 GTI and now a 2018 ST. The GTI was more comfortable and it was quicker on paper. The ST is WAY more fun, it feels quicker, and handles better. They both have tons of perks and it really just depends on what you want from a car. Personally I would go for the ST all day. It is such a blast to drive.
I found the st felt much quicker too but the one I drove had a loud exhaust so it sounded fast.
I’d go with the gti. I like the nicer interior and comfort.
Same, I think so as well even though I think the ST looks better exterior wise
The VW is boring looking on the outside. I'm buying a hot hatch not a luxury car. If I wanted a nice interior I'd buy an AMG
Smooth in road gti, not noise in roads like ford
I went with the Focus ST. It was a tough call since I'm a blue oval guy and VW guy, so my loyalties were split. In the end, the ST was cheaper out the door. Still love them both, but really enjoying the Focus ST.
Went overkill and got an R. Best decision I’ve ever made feels so premium compared to other high end hot hatches. The aftermarket is HUGE the help is over abundant and the community is amazing. My first VW and definitely won’t be the last
Hey so I’m looking into a 2016 golf r and was wondering dose it still drive like a sport hatch or more like a wagon?
I'm 6'4" with loooong legs and I have absolutely no problems driving my Focus ST. 107k miles since I bought it new and no issues whatsoever
I'd definitely go with the Golf GTI, all day.
love my MK7 GTI!!
GTI is the most balanced car as far as daily drivability goes. Just has the perfect mix of speed and comfort. Then u mod the GTI a bit and it’s hard to beat, IMO
Yeah but the st is more of a fun daily for me sti felt weak I want my car to be able to whip it into a tree if I’m not ready and punch it. Raw power rips you around which is what I prefer
You didn't explain the powers of the EA888 GEN 3 engine. This is vw's third refinement in making this engine fixing problems along the way. It is so good you can flash a 220hp GTI to 300HP with just a simple flash tune on stock. Overall I think the Focus ST is a more fun car to drive but when it comes to quality and comfort it belongs to the GTI.
"220hp". It's underrated. More like to 250. So more of a 50hp jump from a tune.
@@2010ngojo you need to do your research and come back here
@@showdog6073
I have yet to see anything wrong with what I said.
@@2010ngojo www.goapr.com/products/ecu_upgrade_20tsi_gen3_mqb.html
took me a min to find that... thats just APR there are like 10 different tuners all pushing 300 from stock tune you obv didnt do any research
GTI all the way bro 🥵
Honestly just bought a GTI, love the car!
How about mini trucks next time, maybe Mazda B2200 vs Nissan Hardbody, which gives me an idea
So you want a Nissan Hardbody
Nice vid, keep up the great work
I've owned 2015 gti and currently own a 2014 St. The gti has a much nicer interior than the st even though mine is the st3. The focus has a nicer outside and a better driving experience. Love both but id go with the gti
I think GTi is still the benchmark. I own a MK7 GTi Stage 2. I’m an adult 34 years old. I use it for my daily and it’s on BC Coils. I think if I was young 17-23 years old a ST is prob more fun. But if you care about refinement and more grown up GTi is a lot better choice. Both are good cars.
great video but the thing is the ST is completely rocked out with modifications where the GTI is much more subtle which makes it a big difference if you were to then completely mod out the GTI then it would be more of an even playing field....i own a Mk4 GTI myself and i can tell you the GTI modified correctly will give the ST a run for its money
Got a 2017 GTI with the DSG, and god is that little hatch fun.
traded my 16 1.8t jetta for a 2017 dsg gti and best decision i made 💪🏻
Own a 19 GTI with DSG and love it. Want an R though. Tired of tire slip starting out on hills every time it rains.
I like the way Jake explains car stuff. It just makes more sense the way he says it did you take a speech class or something.
I got a 2013 GTI and it’s so fun to drive
Id go with the GTI between these. Only because in my opinion smaller is better. The focus is a big car compared to the gti. Thats the same reason i would choose a Fiesta ST over the Focus ST- and I did. But if interior quality is a big concern, keep this in mind- the Fiesta ST interior makes the Focus ST interior feel nice.. its a special kind of cheap plastic when you get into a fiesta.
It can be nice, but it takes a lot of added sound deadening and modifying door handle covers that should have been attached firmly from the factory- that sort of thing.
MK5 GTI owner with 60k (stage 1 APR plus ECU flash, Stage 1 DSG Tune, APR stage 2 plus intake) , use it as a daily driver, so much fun driving in the city. Good car, thumbs up.
I went from a 16 Focus with the touch screen and leather and all that, to a 17 ST1. Personally don’t miss it, would rather put that money towards mods than the ST3 package. Lots of people are willing to sell their ST3 recaros also ;)
i got a 2 door dsg mk6 gti with a stage 1+ cobb tune and god damn it is so much fun to drive. i'm totally biased but i would always pick gti. fun to drive, handles amazingly and not to mention it's hella refined.
“They did depreciate pretty hard”
ST2’s with 70k miles going for $25k post pandemic 😂
for real!
I absolutely love the GTI... and I bought an ST 😂 this episode hit me in the feelz
Same bro
Golf gti all the way
I wanna get a better view of the interior on the cars in this series!! Loving the videos so far though.
if you guys are doing similar cars and stuff ill definitely love to too 350z vs g35 comparison
Outtana they are the same car
Lol, no
Golf my guy
THIS. I've been bouncing back and forth between these two to see what one I actually want to buy.
GTI makes significantly more power when comparing mod to mod on the ST. Also way cheaper to modify and the interior isn't plastic like the ST.
Loren Bako 💯💯💯
Got to be the golf
I have a mk5 GTI and just bought a ST3. Wanted to try something different.
Which do you like more?
What are the wheels brand on the st???
Can't go wrong with either car. Both have their pros and cons. I own and ST and I'm looking at also getting a GTI.
Get an MK7 bro
@@johnyboy760 yeah bro I'm in the search for a used one right now.
Just got a mk7gti going to upload it to the gallery when I get some aero on it
I love my 19 Golf Alltrack SE. Not saying anything negative about the Ford. After all, it’s an American machine and that in of itself is cool. I just love my VW. Love the tight interior and that thud you hear when you close the door.
Ive only driven a GTE with the DSG, but that is a really fun car imo
what are the wheels on that gti? if anyone knows please and thank you
Hey! Quick question... I’ve been watching all of the Opposite Lanes episodes and you guys never show over the interior of the vehicles. Is this due to them being individuals vehicles and they have personal belongings in them? As in this one you talk about the sunken in knobs in the GTI but we don’t see anything you speak of. Just a suggestion to do an overview of interior of the vehicles too, as in video overview.
Is it normal for the air lift compressor to be that loud?
anyone know what wheels are on the gti?
It just depends if you want nice fancy interior from a GTI or 50 more horsepower from factory, add a cobb accessport and your over 300 ft/lb torque . Speed or comfort, what do u prefer
The whole opening montage I was waiting for the GTI to air out... 😅😅
Easy, VW. They still make them
Agreed....but the ST is still in production elsewhere.
Cries in American.
Laughs in Europe.
Take that, GM.
Honestly my 2013 st gaps the 2020 gti and gli so it’s ight
@@mercury0214 cap lol
closest thing to DRIVER TO DRIVER MK7 ill take it
I own a stage 2,mk6 gti best hot hatch for everyday community. Power is there,then when you want peace it just delivers plain and simple.
Focus ST vs Speed3 is more like a competition
Is the hardtop Miata worth it or should I skimp and go for the soft top.
Hard top it
Without a gti, the focus st may not exist
As a Euro Kid I am obligated to say the GTI, but the ST do be looking sexc 👀
GTI all day!!!
Anyone know the song at 11:32?
I would only disagree about reliability. Pretty sure they are even. This was the 3rd gen of the Focus ST globally. Not sure what you are talking about in reference to that. They just have a different driving philosophy. Focus ST is on it's 4th gen as we speak in europe. The St community has been alive since the early 2000s. It's not new nor small. Focus, Fiesta and Mondeos have had st variants in some cases for more than 2 decades now.
With mk2 being the best one 😁👍
Well for me I'm 18 and my first car is a 2009 volkswagen gti 2.0t tsi 2-door mk5 6-speed. This car is amazing and is not that loud or slow. So for me i would still choose Volkswagen Gti 100%. Also you forgot to put an (s) in Volkswagen.
I choose the Seat Leon Cupra R :p
in the US ? yeah right ¬¬
@@zentube23 sorry you dont get this beast of an underdog
@@thegiantgaming7592 we dont get it in NZ either 😤
I have owned both ( 2015 gti and currently 2015 st) as much fun as I had in the gti I much prefer the st it is so much more exciting and lively. The gti was comfy and very well put together but the st is just got that look at me appeal and is a bit faster
I’m proud do be a member of the focus gang
Definitely going with the GTI if I had to choose a fun daily/street car. You get luxury, speed, comfort, space and backseats with lots and lots of aftermarket support because….VAG!
You guys should make a video on best modded daily drivers
Ill go with the GTI since im a mk6 gli owner, im just trying to have That crackle and pops that the st does but not so obnoxiously
I like how the gti says rotiform on the side but it’s got kansei wheels lol
I have both .. both of them are awesome cars but I’ll take the GTI with the DSG
Waiiitttt is that a motiva cup at the beginning? You worked at motiva?
next ep. Honda Civic vs Vw Jetta ; either 1.5t vs 1.4t or 1.5t vs 2.0T or 2.0t vs 2.0t .. the choice is yours
Got my first check engine light 4 weeks into buying my gti
Haha same my pcv fucked out a month into owning it but was a cheap an easy fix
Worked for ford and Volkswagen and drove both. Both awesome cars. St is a little more wild and fun feeling gti is a little more refined and … intentional. Both sre great cars wither way ford will cost less for most things but as I said both awesome cars hard to for wrong
And this is the episode where Alex bullied Dakota off the show