History of the Most Broken Metas in Counter-Strike
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- All overpowered Metas from old Counter-Strikes to New CS2
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In this video I will cover the most broken metas throughout the history of counter-strike. We will cover a range of topics all the way from the original counter-strike to the new release of counter-strike 2. The metas are really broken like nvdia filters, wallbangs through any wall, bhop macro or the shield and so on. Counter-Strike in english, america, USA - เกม
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The XM1014 has always been good. I used it a lot in Global CSGO. They haven't changed it, I have no clue why it's suddenly popular now.
bigger head hitbox makes you kill faster with more pellets hitting
My theory is with the introduction of the loadout menu people wanted to use the guns they added to their loadout to justify the spot it takes and then people just noticed faster since not all the guns are available to buy
Nah it was S1mple using it in a few games, now everyone likes to use it XD
@@maxdabrd7486 pretty retarded justification for those who aren't slow and want to use any gun in the game like the previous 20 years and 4 iterations let them.
Subtick. It likes to make single bullets from a rifle miss all the time but a shotgun? Nearly impossible to miss with it and once you tag someone they slow down not to mention it's probably snagging them on back tracking as well.
Jump shots with SSG in CS:GO is definitely an honorable mention
I miss jump scouting, it was really fun an I was really bummed when Valve nerfed it. You can still do it but it's a lot harder.
Did you know that you used to be able to shoot weapons accurately when falling down if you had zero/near zero horizontal momentum?
I got my first matchmaking ace during the augmented offensive patch. Only lasted a few days though but that aug was insane!
got to LE with that strat LOL. me and one other dude who could get global by himself. it was like another golden era of gaming similar to modern warfare 2 and halo 3 lol.
@@hidingweed No lol
Skipped over the R8 and Krieg metas in CSGO. And it may just be my imagination, but I think that with CS2 they increases just how much you get aim punched when damaged which means that a gun like the XM that has a decent size spread and fire rate can run down an enemy at range while messing with their aim with each shot. That on top of MR12 messing with the economy and the XM almost paying for itself with 2 kills ,since it has a $900 kill reward, makes it very attractive if you're on weaker buys.
Forgetting about 1shot headshot cz ?
1 day R8 meta? Who cares?
@@TheKingOberon bruh its so broken the gun literally changed the whole game. And its buggy too
@@wibs0n68 In my opinion you're wrong and the gun is just bad, unfortunately
@@TheKingOberon we are talking about day one R8 lol. If you think day one R8 is bad, then you never tried it (or just super bad in cs)
I have fond memories of the UMP meta. If you can’t buy rifles it was just a pure UMP team. Good times.
Oh my fucking god. You honestly brought back my childhood. I had forgotten all about this. I was preaching to people that the UMP was one of the most broken weapons, just before it got any attention. Nobody believed me. I remember how sad I was at its nerf.
I remember dominating monster on overpass with ump, i won 12 matches in a row on overpass with ump alone
@@seashore0015I was the same way woth the sg! I used it, was told to atop and git gud looser and use AK, and everyone used sg! Also I miss the UMP it was so good and was one of my favorites!
Actual Meta is quiet overpowered. ESP+Aimbot is just too stronq.
Gooood oneee
You missed how broken the csgo revolver and cz was when they came out! IT WAS INSANE
Ill make a part 2 if you subscribe right now
and Tec-9
Also the XM had a brief meta back in CSGO as well. I think it's always been a fairly good choice for a weapon but people just ignore it because it's a shotgun until a pro or youtuber "discovers" it. I distinctly remember Anomoly & others making a video or two about it back in csgo.
In Counter-Strike Source, I use the shotgun almost exclusively in deathmatch. The pump shotgun one, though, not XM. XM fires faster and you move with it faster too, but M3 gives very satisfying one-hit kills very often. I honestly think that shotguns are unnecessarily overlooked, at least in casual.
@@elu9780 Pump shotty in CS:S dealt around 104 damage when all the pellets hit
@@systemhalodark it can easily do more than that, from experience.
was buying it since it costed 3k $, you can imagine my happiness when it went down to 2k$ and i could force buy it almost everyround xP and if i didnt have enought for armor and xm, there was always the armor-57
it was really bad in csgo, it had niche uses like on vertigo or office but for the most part is was really really bad for it's price
because of the hitbox and hitreg changes in cs2, the XM is now actually insanely OP
also considering mr13 is the new standard, no wonder the XM is suddenly good, it got stealth buffed to all hell
You forgot the first month of CS2, where you could block the entrance to kitchen in office my knocking over the vending machine.
Sad to see that the 2014 AUG week didn't get mentioned, that gun was completely busted during that week
Bruv not just that week also literal years in like 2019 I think, when liquid was abaoit
7:44 that transition is lit brooo
:)
@@snifzz How did you make it?
@@tappajaav simple masking
@@snifzz Anything can be simple when you're good at it
there was a brief moment in CS2 (and at one point on older CS games aswell) where if you put "fps_max 32" into console, you'd be able to perfectly hit every bunnyhop
Yeah but it is hard as heck to get a valuable speed boost doing so
That reminds me of COD4 fps caps for different movement mechanics.
Unfortunately I forgot the exact specifics but these were few of the milestones among them:
125 fps
250 fps
333 fps gave you most jump height and also caused you to take much more fall damage
mac10 pistol round was also possible by rushing long with glock, getting a kill and running back. I used to do that all the time back in the day
You mean on dust2?
@@snifzz Yes originally buy period was 45 seconds if memory serves right so it was a lot easier but then when they reduced it to 20 seconds it was harder but if you had a good long spawn it was still doable.
@@JohnSmith-hp7ku I think it was 40 seconds before the reductions.
You were also able to do it on CT(i.e. multiple kills) side due to the forgiving buytime
That clip of me complaining on Nuke lives on forever 😂
CS2 has made Dust2 entirely a scout meta now at high rank. Scout is better than awp, everything honestly
for the bhop commands, only the first 3/4 commands are necessary for bhops. it works because usual +jump is subticked but with the binds, it’s back to 64 tick inputs and allows you to hit more perfect bhops. good video overall!!
Thanks for the explanation :)
Except valve blue subticks alias commands and scripts now too. It's all subtick now. There's a workaround that requires dumping to a cfg file and running the .cfg every time you hit a button, but it's not really worth the trouble.
@@dwatts64 that’s not necessarily true. there are still alias commands that you can use to desubtick but they are slightly different to the ones shown in the video and they are still infact de-subticked.
@@femboyhop I'll have to do some digging around online, perhaps I am partially mistaken. Last I understood, any command that had to do with movement or interactions with other players, like weapons, throwables, and the like are subticked, even in alias binds.
Maybe if you use them in conjunction with commands that aren't sub-ticked so they happen roughly in unison you could effectively *mimic* non sub-ticked actions, but without digging into the engine idk if it's truly de-subbed or just mimicking it.
I don't know for certain if the engine can parse subtick and non-subtick commands in a single alias string. I know close to launch it certainly couldn't. If you put ANY commands in an alias string it would de-subtick all the commands in the string. Then they pushed the alias subtick update and since then that method no longer works, even when you used de-subbed commands in the string, so I understood that to mean the engine is handling each command in the string individually.
If it was treating all the commands as a whole like at launch, then just having one de-subbed command in a string would de-sub the whole string, which isn't what it's doing now. If the engine is handling each command in a string individually as it appears then to my knowledge there would be no way to de-sub a command without taking it *outside* of the engine environment, i.e. dumping to a cfg file like I mentioned in my earlier post. Though, that method comes with its own problems and restrictions.
Honestly the benefits of de-subtick commands are pretty minimal now, since they made the shooting changes. Once they made the tracers and impacts update locally on the next video frame instead of on the next tick, the feel of the shooting improved immensely imo. It's still not perfect to what CSGO was, but it's getting there. Now when I die to weird game issues, it never feels like it's because of subtick inputs on my end, it's due to a laggy player I'm facing that's teleporting out and blasting me incredibly fast or shooting me long after I'm behind a wall. Then I watch the replay and it feels like he was in the open forever, when I KNOW that isn't how it happened on my screen during the match. The replay is from the server perspective and you can really tell how big of a disconnect there is between what my PC thinks it's happening vs what the server is seeing.
WarOwl did a bit of a dive on the issue and found that CS2 effectively handles all players engaged with other players at the lowest common denominator of speed. If 3 people are in a gunfight and one is 20 ping, one is 50 ping, and one is 150 ping, all three players will effectively be playing at 150 ping until the 150 ping player is eliminated or leaves their vicinity. Then it would treat the remaining two at 50 and so on.
It's probably the most fair system Valve could've implemented to ensure players on lower end systems and networks don't get unfairly punished for low-end hardware, which is never fun if you're young using the family Best Buy PC or if you're just lower income. I understand why they did it, but it kinda had the inverse effect of punishing people with decent latency. Though arguably the people with the better rigs are likely the ones best positioned to know what actions minimize the issues and how to do them.
I do think Valve should force the minimum allowable ping to 50ms or lower by default though. I'd bet a large percentage of lower spec players won't touch that setting and it would hopefully reduce the chance that you get queued with someone with a 150 ping unless they went in and changed it from the default. What's most frustrating is that a ≤100ms ping was arguably playable in CSGO, but in CS2 any ping above like 65ms feels like 150ms. Subticks mean that ping time has a far greater impact on your experience than before, and syncing things to the tick would likely get you closer in line with what the server sees as "now" vs what your client sees, and I think that's why players think it "feels" better to sync their actions to the tick, even though it effectively slows the speed they can execute actions to 1/64th of a second instead of the theoretical 1/1,000ths of a second of Subtick.
@@femboyhop wow I'm sorry for that novel, im typing on my phone and didn't realize it had gotten that long. Your comment really got my brain running on the subject and I just couldn't stop. I totally understand if you're not gonna read all that 😅
to shed some more light on the BiG jump bug, it basically moved your viewmodel (i.e. where your in game "eyes" are) higher than the playermodel, which is what people see you as. It was indeed ridiculously overpowered and it's kind of crazy that it took so long for a pro team to use it to their advantage.
practiced grenade lineups in Office on Counter-strike: Source to come up with perfect blocks for door openings. They were so good that hostages couldn't get over them, good times :D
Thats fking insane, any chance you could show me?
It’s insane how these kind of videos always seem to pop off in the algorithm. Congrats bro
That was a random video in my recommendations, but... It was satisfying to watch. Subscribed and was really surprised when I saw that you are not big channel. Keep it up, mate!
Thank you! definitely more to come :)
XM1014 "meta" is such a placebo. It's a good gun and always will be (I loved it in Global Offensive and I love it now too.), but people are too stuck up to use it. Until they see some "pro" or "famous" person use it of course. Then they turn into full on mindless NPC's and follow every word that that person says.
TL;DR CS players have a history of being so schizophrenic that they imagine changes into existence, that goes as far back as CS 1.6.
Most gun metas are just people repeating what pro players use , and figuring out it is actually good . The XM1014 and AUG always had the same stats until everyone started using them cause of pro players leading the guns to get changed
the XM was stealth buffed because of subtick and hitbox changes, the only people who used it in csgo were low elo movement players
the reason pros are using the XM now all of a sudden is because of the changes i mentioned, not because "it was slept on"
aug has always been decent but because of the new smoke meta they're now arguably better than an awp for stuff like window on mirage or red on ancient
no revolver pocket awp? no cz meta? no michael jackson peek?
the xm meta started with a game, I'm not sure but I think it was in one of the last csgo championships and then in several cs2 showmatches with s1mple he started using it and everyone started using it too
The algorithm is doing you favors my dude, really nice video and it's such a throwback to recall all these meta strategies in CS. Such a trip down memory lane.
Appreciate it!
Great video man, brought back some great memories with cs 1.6 and css
Love to hear it
really nice video! thanks a lot. Ive experienced and used most of those metas but you forgot the time sg was broken in CSGO. spring 2020
Appreciate that, but I didnt forget. I tried to avoid weapon metas, because every youtuber has already covered them.
the jump bug isnt a bug that existed for 3 years i believe, i think valve recently updated the game at that time to make a cooldown for crouch spamming, unintentionally making it powerful if combined with jump aswell to make that bug happens. they fixed it in the middle of the major (i forgot what major) and it was discovered in the major aswell. the pros then made a gentleman agreement to not use it and they did
Ah alright, The major youre refrencing is the 2017 pgl major mentioned in my video
As a matter of fact I know it existed multiple years(at the very least)before the infamous major happened,
because I learnt about silent crouchjumping few years prior from a video(that I don't think I will ever be able to find again) that discussed some very unorthodox CS:GO tips and used this knowledge occassionally
Smgs and shotguns became way better since they changed how models move, and now none can hit you while you're a-d ing. So accuracy while moving is way more useful
yes this too
Really good video. Keep it up
Appreciate it!
back in the day, you could rocket jump. all online records of it have been destroyed but if you dig hard enough, you can find proof
Definitely
nice video! it's a bit niche, but i would love to see you cover some of the metas from dangerzone in csgo.
Def gonna do something with dangerzone one day, good idea ty :)
Good stuff man, Don't forget about the CZ/tec9 meta (LDLCZ, Olof with tec9 etc)
I didn’t forget :)
Bro. Stacking up those filing cabinets in cs_office was so damn fun.
This video is so polished I had no idea you were a new TH-camr. Keep up the good work, you'll go far
Means a lot, thank you!
It was such a nice video, I don’t even play the game but i really enjoyed it
In CS:GO, there was a glitch that allowed you to remove the delay by crouching and stopping crouching multiple times in a row. Simply by having an AUG and scoping, the delay was reset, allowing you to abuse the crouch.
Theres also another disadvantage of 4:3 res is that it make the player model strafe much faster
I dont know if I would count it as a “meta” but one-way smokes as a whole on GO was outrageous
That's definitely a meta, unlike a few things I mentioned that techincally werent a meta at all
Missed the new MP9 meta, arguably better than the XM1014
Bro i thought you had like 100k subs
Your content just🔥
New sub
Autoshotty was insane in CS1.6 too. Noone used it as it was referred to as the noobcannon.
you forgot the 1 week deagle jump shot meta where they for some reason increased the air accuracy so much that you could legit just peek while jumping and you could very consistently get headshots
For the lazy ones like me.
9:55 Bhop Command.
alias "+myjump" "+jump"
alias "-myjump" "-jump"
bind "mwheeldown" "+myjump;-myjump"
bind "mwheelup" "+myjump;-myjump"
alias _checkw "-back; -forward; alias checkw";
alias +w "+forward; alias checkw _checkw";
alias -w "checkw";
Bind w +w
Im not able to make an edit so it's here 🙃 You have to paste it one by one / "Bind w +w" is essentially useless just debinds you're movement forward.
@@StonedTommy they made a typo, "-foward" and "+foward" should be forward (missing an r)
@@raxor_ fixed
Cool vid man
Super well made. I got 7k hrs in Csgo but still learned a few new things
Glad to hear and thank you so much
Bro that wasnt TenZ but Ex6tenz, they re 2 different players
In csgo, scope rifle also a meta where the recoil, spread, firerate are insanely OP. It just like play cod. everyone keep buying it. But around 2018 maybe, Valve nerf the stats
Great video
Nice video edit man
Another 1.6 meta : the HE damage could go through walls
Bhopping got a huge nerf pre-1.6
You could bhop on assault from ct roof to t roof to bridge
You could go from dust ct spawn to the t side of bridge before they could leave spawn
Wish i got to experience those days man
Dude, the caller for Titan isn't TenZ. It's Ex6TenZ. Completely different player, nationality, position, language, and era of the game. The year that Titan went under is the same year that TenZ became like a B-tier pro/active as a player.
No AUG/Krieg meta in GO? CZ? No early CS:GO economy abuse(2nd pistol, French forcebuy etc)? We're still kind of in the boost meta. Runboosting is kinda nerfed with the AWP being sort of bad compared to earlier versions, and the level geometry not supporting it as much, no flyboost/launch etc, but we're seeing these 2-3man boosts on almost every map to spot oppoenents, and the prevalence/preparedness of it makes it one of the longest lasting metas.
Wrong
@@snifzz Nm, picking up a sweet TenZ GL jersey :^)
Smoke punches brought attention to the XM, but it was also a great weapon with high damage potential🤌
The spread feels tighter tho
In original cs there was the pump action shotgun that had 3 bullets going in the middle I was snipping awp with it (awm at that time)
I think you forgot to mention the jump shooting that was being done with the Scout and probably AWP. Basically, whenever you jump and have 0 velocity in the air, your crosshair actually clears up and allows you to do a shot that acts as if you were standing. It allowed for some insane shots in general and I think it can still be done, although much harder to the point it's not worth it.
Keep making videos, you got a good thing here.
Will do :)
*Me who has never played CSGO in their life.*
"Hmm... interesting."
Good video bro.
Appreciate it
the xm became meta at the end of csgos life, 2022 and 2023 is where many pros started using it because it was actually useful, but it didnt blow up up until cs2 replaced csgo and the news about xm being actually a good weapon spread like wild fire, hence why everyone started to wonder if valve actually messed with the xms stats.
keep it up!!
Forgot the deagle and scout meta in css, thise were op. And revolver when it came out, was op as f.
Fire vid broski
Nice editing
i was watching this video thinking you had maybe 100k subscribers but damn you are underrated
Much love bro
Great video, just subscribed. Not sure if you missed nade boosting (? If that's what it's called). Probably wasnt a meta or maybe it was but youd sit on your friend's head and jump and they'd throw a smoke/flash under you and it'd launch you into the air. Could get to some ridiculous positions in csgo and css. Look at some of LOLYOU's older videos and theyd have examples in there.
Either way I'm keen for a sequel to this video with the more obscure metas/tactics that you mightve missed.
dude how do you only have 743 subs this has better production than youtubers with millions of subs
Good work good video
yet another underrated cs channel
I don't know why people forget the 2014 Five-Seven being better than both AK and M4. Literally one shot headshot, cost way less than rifles, practically no recoil, quite the number or ammo for a pistol too. It's my go to in eco and it's so good, people think im cheating lmao
a note about phoon:
phoon was a really good bhopper and some say zblock was inspired by phoon. zblock was a plugin to stop bhopping, so in spite of them nerfing bhopping, phoon downloaded a bhop script and released the infamous video "phoon is too much for zblock".
phoon was good at bhopping but he definitely didnt wipe out whole teams like his video, that video was using scripts/cheats because he was mad at zblock servers.
Definitely not scripts but the server's settings definitely fluctuate throughout the video making some strafes easier.
nice edit :)
Ty
I remember dominating Ivy on Train back in 2016-18 with XM, this weapon finally has the attention it deserved
You forgot the smoke/molotov oneway combo. When you throw molotov under you and your teammate throws smoke to your half body model. That creates oneway to spot enemy. (CSGO)
Yep thank you, definitely will be making some sort of part 2 or smthing like that
My theory is the XM meta is because you can no longer save for rounds so you are much much more inclined to force buy. Subtick is definately an upgrade and makes shotguns feel more responsive.
I agree, but somehow I managed to dominated with the mag7 in csgo, but in cs2 It feels useless for me atleast
@@snifzz I think it's the fire rate and range of the XM that helps a lot more. If you're aim is on point the Nova is still better at mid range and the Mag 7 is better at close range, but if you miss your first shot with either of those it may be over for you. The XM has similar range capabilities as the Nova but with the added benefit of semi auto fire meaning if you do miss a shot you don't have a slight delay like the pump shottys.
7:42 Random well-made transition
Yup
a small note on CS2 bhopping: fps_max 32
Mag and XM have always been good. Not only that, the money you get is insane. I think people are just experimenting more and finding things that have been forgotten.
nice vid bro :)
Thankkk u
If you're struggling against the XM1014 i recommend SMGs. They tear appart the shottys and their higher mobility makes you a harder target to hit, while also keeping a very good accuracy while moving.
Smart.
jump shots with the ssg was the meta for a long time. what i mean by long time is like 2 months but for such a strange meta to run that long was something.
Are you making another video?
No mention of CZ75 era, tec9 era, UMP, R8 revolver, AUG/KRIEG?
Planning on it, found quite a few new insane metas, but I do need more for a full lenght video
One thing really unnoticed because of how long ago it was but in 1.3 t side could move hostages. I miss that
Thats crazy lmao
Italy was one of the best maps for it because of all the spots you could hide them from ct side
1.6 was insane in that time tbh
Back when I played in 1.6 I remember me and my brother spent about 5 minutes strategizing how to use riot shield.
We literally just used them as mobile cover and dominated our buddies in the lan games we ran. This was a bit before CSGO, so I was disappointed they took my favourite item away
Love to hear that you unlocked some amazing memories :)
Great video!
Can you maybe place the commands for bhopping in the descrpiton of the video ?
It doesnt work anymore, dont bother
very good video
Very good comment
XM became this good because of the increased size of head hitbox. It has always had surprisingly good accuracy, but the spread pattern of projectiles limited the amount of hits to the head, but now you should hit with more projectiles to the head which makes an xm shot more lethal than before
Guys idk why, i suck at bhopping but sometimes rarely i hit bhops that were almost the same speed as phoon’s in in cs2, css and csgo. The most i’ve ever hit is 3, and trust me they’re way faster than the montage ones
Yeah cs2 bunnyhopping is now really good, I'm still using the commands mentioned in the video so idk if that plays any part, but i def get what you mean, it feels insane
Nice vid. Only a slight correction, at 4:20 it was Ex6tenz, a Belgian player, not Tenz.
criminally underrated channel
Im doing just fine I think :)
You seem to forgot a short period of time in the CS:GO's lifespan, when we had "double jump" bug. They fixed it pretty quickly tho, but it was fun while it lasted
You mean in cs2, right? Yeah i forgot about it sadly
Nope, it was in CS:GO, I remember it pretty well, as it allowed you to jump from window to the ladder on Mirage without even needing to use the window frame at all@@snifzz
well I guess you forgot that one time on csgo when the revolver came out and was broken af (not sure if it can be considered meta since they nerfed it a few days after) and also that weird bug/glitch where you would be faster than normal sprint while crouched and aiming with scout in cs go...
Nice vid
The bhopping command you showed. From my understanding turns you jump from sub tick to tick based. Movement is sub tick but an alias is on the tick. Therefore it acts like csgo.
You deserve way more subs bro
I appreciate that!
Those first days when the R8 revolved was first released, glorious. Also the tech9 meta from like 2015?
Nice video❤
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Don't forget CS Nexon meta of the STG and the EBR.
mp9 has been dominating since practically the release of csgo
I remember in some servers in 1.6 or 1.5 they didnt punish you for killing hostages except losing money and every hostage map Ts just killed all hostages in beginning of every round lol
Dasss craazy
Oh that explains why I’ve suddenly seen the Xm in a 2-3 games a few days ago teammates complained about difference in ranks and so I assumed it’s just silvers because the gun hasn’t changed since csgo just like the ssg/aug. (I refuse to use silver shorty out of principle)
Yeah xm is pretty boring to play