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A very fun note is that in brazil csgo would only surpass 1.6 in early 2014 since every one hated csgo and the pcs in that time couldn't run csgo well, at the time tournaments were only played in 1.6 and source and it was actually fallen that encouraged every one to switch to csgo giving free classes of the game to new players and organizing small tournaments, fallen saved counter strike in brazil if he didn't encouraged people to switch to csgo counter strike would die in brazil since 1.6 was dropping and would there be no pro players since the money of tournaments would stop as well, that is why Fallen is the Godfather of brazil counter strike.
Epic vid, but I feel you missed a couple of important moments in CSGO history, the M4A1S not being in the 1.0 version, Flusha being so ahead of the curve literally everyone was accusing him of cheating, Olofboost incident, first graffiti (Olof Overpass defuse in fire), the fact the revolver was nerfed within 24hrs (thats how bad it was lol), the fact that the first iteration of Astralis left TSM and formed the first player owned team, the tMartin incident with a youtuber promoting his own gambling platform. Also, I feel the forsaken cheating incident was pretty important, as that set the Indian scene back years and years.
I originally in the script mentioned how jw and flusha were the first few two get hundreds of hackusations but it didn’t make it into the final cut :(, you are right about everything else though!
I mean a lot of CS teams started out as player owned teams way back in the early 00s. But some of the bigger ones that were founded/owned specifically by CS players are NiP, Complexity, Mousesports, MeetYourMakers, Moscow 5, and Lemondogs.
I will forever stand by that nothing will ever top the sheer hype that was FaZe vs Cloud9 at Boston. FaZe - especially Karrigan - understood their role as the villains and played it up like pro wrestling heels. Cloud9 was RED HOT, and the fanbase was at its most rapid. It was an amazing moment im so glad I got to witness. I still go back and watch that series.
I think the only tournament that surpassed the hype of that boston major was stockholm 2021 with s1mple winning his first major and us finally get a major after 2 years of online tournaments. There's a reason the viewership record to this day is held by that tournament. Even the quarterfinals had more viewers than any other major barring the antwerp one.
This was a great video! The only comment I have is that you completely ignored the era of Astralis. No matter how much people (specifically NA) would want to pretend Astralis didn't exist they were the best team of all time. They deserved to at least get a minute talking about how good they were from 2018-COVID but that is just my opinion No matter what I enjoyed the video!
34:15 karrigan is not only danish but half danish and half German so he has no relation to Sweden at all. If I remember correctly he stood in for someone that couldn’t make it
great vid as always bro so funny that you put together a 37 minute video and people in the comments are still telling you that you missed stuff, and they aren't wrong - cs history is just so expansive I think you could make a feature length doc for each cs game that had a comp scene (sorry condition zero)
thank you, I really tried to hit most the important notes that would be interesting to someone who doesn’t know anything about CS but it was difficult to organize everything even by year :(
It's a nice video, but what I tend to see about these types of videos is that they lack a lot of 1.6 and source history. While source history isn't all that preserved because as you said, the main scene was 1.6 for a very long time, 1.6 does have a lot saved history which can make for a video almost as long as this one. I get why you had CS:GO for your main portion of the video, but the info for 1.6 is also out there, and it can be just as long, it's just a bit harder to do. e.g. you missed on saying that while in 1.6 we didn't have 'majors' the 1st ever cpl was technically approved to use the 'cs world championship' label by VALVE themselves, while the rest of the big tournaments we considered as 'majors' were unofficial but were still the most prestigious ones, while acting the same way modern majors do (in total there were 30+ majors throughout 1.6 history) Also missed out on talking about legendary teams like SK Gaming 2003, establishing one of their own win streaks (they had smth like 50-1 record at some point in maps) Or talking about mTw 2008 (the danes), the pioneers of succesful and dominant tactical approach style similar to Astralis 2018 (zonic was in that team after all) Or the golden five of changing orgs constantly but in the end having won the most majors of them all (Neo has 7 1.6 majors to his name, in comparison, f0rest has 3) Or NaVi 2010, considered by many the GOAT team of 1.6 with 4 majors won in a row. Or the legendary fnatic 2009, that won crazy amount of tournaments using the OPPOSITE style of mTw, via individual skill. Or Potti and Heaton, the first great duo and Potti himself being the best player of the world for 3-4 years in the first half of 1.6's history. It wasn't until f0rest and NEO that came along before he lost his 'GOAT' status. This isn't some in-depth info (though you can find even that if you look for it), but it could have been mentioned same way you mentioned 'oh and Astralis won 4 majors in a row'. I hope this will help you out for future videos on the matter :)
At first I was like hey there isn’t a lot of 1.6 and pre 1.6 content, but the vid creator did say he was born a year before 2001 and 1.6 came out in 2003. No mention of GotFrag either by the way, but maybe that doesn’t fit in the story. Listening to this vid makes me feel old…
Not sure if you view yourself as such, but this new generation of youtubers covering counterstrike history is great and i really enjoyed this video bro
This video was pretty damn good, and you being able to apparently be a semi-pro player yourself while making entertaining content of this caliber is very cool to see. I have a few critisisms tho. I think you talked about the fluctuations in the pro scene a little too much. Like the different national teams and such. I think the "general trends" and pioneers of the game are more important, as they are what really matters in understanding the context, in which cs players live in. You did do it (at least to about 13min) but left out big phenomena as the brazilian execute, Stewie's arrogant but revolutionary style of playing the game through smokes, Astralis' methodical, ultra teamheavy way of playing the game, i.e. seen in their unstoppable inferno banana strats. And chopper's jumping Mac10 strats. The rise of international teams is also a trend which for the better part of CS:GO's history was apparent. There are other good, lesser ones like arT's ultra aggressive playstyle and Jame time. There were some updates missed as well, like the introduction of the newer economy system (resets went extinct) and 2nd round force buys. Also AUG and krieg meta. And the introduction of IGLs when the pro ruleset was changed. But then again, I do see the game in a more idealistic sense compared to many others, so these could just be my preference.
Man, I just came across this video now, and I got super tripped out when I just randomly saw my own University at 2:00. Then I got even more tripped out when you said that the inventor of Counter Strike, the game I've been playing since I was 6, made it when he was studying here. Honestly, I kinda get now why the original maps for CS 1.0 were so dark and depressing, and where the inspiration for cs_prison came from, lol. Working on the mod must've been a creative outlet for him to express his experiences about studying here. I'm currently slogging through my own final year in this gulag of a University, and your video actually gave me a boost to tough it out just a little bit longer. Thanks for the video mate, you're doing God's work here
Valve is so funny, i dont know how this game persists. I remember the community begging for valve to fix hitboxes in 2016 and all we got was new sounds
haven't physically liked a youtube video in like a year cus im petty like that but you pretty much forced me to watch the entire thing even tho i wanna sleep and its like 3 am rn, great vid bro.
I think its a little sad that you didnt talk much about dupreeh you talked just a bit at the end but man he deserves much more being the only one to play all cs majors, zywoo s1mple and dev1ce may be the greatest of csgo but dupreeh is the greatest regarding titles great video anyways!!
5v5 | west | de_inferno | yours | cal-m | no pugs - I wish there was a little more coverage on what it took to play competitive in the early/mid 2000s lol. And just what a cultural shift CS was. Add in PC cafes packed til 2AM with people playing CS. Epic times! Good video nonetheless!
Thanks for the video, man. This was pretty fun to watch, to see the story that happened prior to me buying CSGO on impulse in 2017 when I was going into Highschool and found CS as THE game I enjoyed, Multiplayer wise, CoD always felt fun whenever I went to a sleepover, but it was always either zombies, or I was getting stomped because of all the changes each time I'd come over. Meanwhile, I could go months and months and months between play sessions of CS and basically stay the same understanding level.
The reason why Brasil is so good at CS is because back in the 2000' we have a big culture of lan house. CS 1.6 was an absolute fever back here, all the kids would go to lan house play agains each others. Theres also a thing called "corujão" (big owl). Corujão is one day that EVERYONE would go to the lan house and spend all night playing.
Good video. Though I think you should've mentioned around 22:40 that the main reason why Zeus, the IGL of Navi, was replaced was because at the time coaches were allowed to talk during games so many teams were replacing their IGLs with more firepower, and letting the coaches do the in-game calling. Obviously, Valve then made the ruling that coaches are only allowed to talk during tactical pauses, so many teams that had replaced their IGLs didn't do so well, like Navi and NIP. It did make Zeus's major win with Gambit all that sweeter.
What a nice video, thank you for this. As for donk, these child prodigies that seemingly appear out of nowhere are usually 10 THOUSAND hours into playing the game, practically being raised to pro play. Donk is currently at 13,772 hours in CS:GO/2, and hasn't even gotten the max level trading card badge.
actually incredible video, insane amount of research u must've had to do. i would love to see a part 2 with some of the random little things that were missed that ive seen in comments
comments were the inspiration for the astralis video! I could do a part two, just need to think of a way to make it without just being like (part 2) in the title LOL
Incredible video and a pleasure to watch. The only two big omissions are the olofboost incident and the Astralis era. Olofboost I can get, it was one tournament that wasn't notable but Astralis literally dominated everything on and off for like almost two full years and none of that was mentioned outside of the majors. Either way, massive respect for this video! I can't imagine how much research you did.
olofboost was definitely a miss on my part and astralis needed some more time in the spotlight I agree. I am getting a lot of shit for that and m0nsey but it’s reasonable 😭😭
@@theletterkei don’t take it hard man, you just made a video about the development and esports history of a franchise that’s multiple decades old and people only have a couple things we think you missed. You covered so much it’s insane and I hope you keep making content like this cause it was awesome :)
fantastic video and it's awesome how much you covered in 37 minutes :D i do wish you covered who broke NIP's 87-0 run (virtus pro) since that was a big moment of cs history and highlighted happy's deagle ace (because batchest popular play) but other than that i think you absolutely nailed this kei
What a banger of a video. I was expecting this to be a rather boring rundown of CS history, but instead didn't even notice that the 10minute video I clicked on was in fact 40minutes long.
Great video! Would've wanted more on what weapon was added or modified in the 1.6 and Source days and what was taken from each, but otherwise it was a great watch.
Quick comment from someone who is really old: when steam came out (timestamp 3:12) nobody thought it was pretty cool, everyone fucking hated it. Why? Valve basically forced you to run their online shop on your local computer if you wanted to play CS1.6. Then they turned off WON (the infrastructure to play HL, CS1.5 etc) so you had to make that switch. Nowadays where PC resources are ample nobody cares anymore but keep in mind that in 2003 people had like 256MB of ram and you would close other applications such as ICQ before starting any game. And suddenly you had to run steam in the background. Nobody liked that.
with regards to the whole first half... Source was a very popular game, one of the most played on steam, its just "competitive CS" wasnt the focus. It was primarily a game for fun, mods, community servers. Games focusing on their competitive, ranked for a large portion of the playerbase has only really been a major trend since the late 2000s-early 2010s.
Its interesting you made the distinctions between 1.6 and source players being that 1.6 players were more tactically minded and source players were mechanical gods when NIP made their money on having the best players in GTR, F0rest, Xizt and the source (french) players really rallied behind their tactics ala ex6tenz line ups. I'm not saying you're entirely wrong (as we would see later with happys envyus)... just a bit of food for thought. I played a lot of 1.6 back in 2002-2006 but I never really touched source so I only really know one side of the coin. Great video.
ex6tenz was definitely an exception! i just think the star players from source always had incredibly flashy playstyles like kenny, shox, scream, nbk, guardian, and although 1.6 had some flashy dudes as well I think it's easier to name the ones from source haha
its just the nature of 1.6 that focused on positioning more while source had the clunky movement *cough* phoon *cough* that encouraged this kind of playstyle But yeah there are just as many, if not even more flashy players in 1.6 (mostly because the 1.6 scene was more developed) compared to source@@theletterkei We can find that distinction about 1.6 players even in that 2013 NiP roster, GeT_RIGHT himself is that positioning/lurker god, while f0rest is the complete opposite, the natural talent that has that smooth and crispy aim, especially in 1.6.
I remember when the Revolver came out. I was MGE unable to hit heads but always hit 1 hit. I became a demon with that thing and ranked up three times. When they nerfed it I instantly down ranked...
never forget betting up to a m4 masterpiece and then losing it after betting on Team AGG who had a 7% chance to win. csgolounge had probably one of the biggest effects on youth gambling LMAO
I planned on covering those in more detail this video but when the script was already like 10 pages before source even released I was like shit I need to revise. I will talk about this more in the future!
Depths of CS lore are cavernous. People at that time didn't know what they were part of, and recording hardware was few and far between. I know it's a lot of effort, but there's still many that would gladly reminisce if interviewed.
it's a close 2nd, bonus points for covering dozens of other competitive games too! but HLTV really is in a league of it's own since they're ONLY counter-strike though.
Condition Zero single player was fun. With the bots set at the highest difficulty(basically aim bot) the single player prooved to be a challenge as you had to know where all the bots would be
The quality of your videos legit deserve over 100k Views, maybe even more than 500k, i seriously don't understand how you don't have more views and subscribers. Trust me bro, one day one of your videos will blow up and so will your channel.
Great video! I like the summary of 1.6, css and csgo. Only point would be that I feel like you glossed over the absolute dominance of the astralis era, as for like 2 years other teams were practically competing for the second place in tournaments, a type of dominance only rivaled by NiP in a game that had just been released
Would really like to see historical recaps of old tournaments. Especially 1.6 tournaments, but I understand that footage for those can be hard to find and really low quality
while I was writing the script I had initially intended to do this! but then I realized that this video would be 6 hours long and never get finished had I done that. I would love to make a separate video covering them though if people would be interested.
@theletterkei I can't speak for the algorithm, but I would definitely be interested. "Old" cs can often be very mysterious for people who started later on, and there aren't many good ways to learn about it.
The youtube channel "Ancient CS" has collected and uploaded a lot of videos of demos from old tournaments from 1.6 and older versions in great quality. And don't forget that CS had tournaments before 1.6/steam was released as well and and those earlier versions had slightly different mechanics and the maps differed which tends to be glossed over a bit.
There are also tons of interviews by Thorin with oldschool players, and he has also very valuable articles about best teams from that era, players, narratives and more. Definitely a lot of info you can find about and I would love to see a video focusing only on the 1.6 stuff from early 2000 until late 2012 and 'beyond' (guess what, some people still host small 1.6 tournaments to this day : D)@@theletterkei
Nice video! A little sad to not see more of Astralis dominante (I know its a bit boring) but revamping the whole way the game is played is not such a simple feat
About V.P and that Mercedes being given to TaZ. As Snax said on @PodcastNatarczywych: TaZ told other guys about the situation and everyone agreed that TaZ should just keep the car. Snax said he himself didn't really care (since they all earned good money, and the car itself wouldn't make such a big difference in pay). He took over the IGL role from Neo to help him recover his form, but he saw some articles and interviews where people (i assume he meant people as in someone from V.P) said things like "Now he will know how it feels to IGL", as if he was to blame for their poor performance. After a few months, Snax posted a jab at his teammates after learning that actually there was some bad blood between the rest of the team.
Snax's "jab" was basically him annoucing he is stepping down from being IGL and he said in the same post that "guys born in 87' and lower couldn't fit to play my style (freestyle) so they were looking for issues everytime, i think this decission is adequate since some lack strenght (skill) to help pull the team forward"
pasha said on a different podcast that it definitely fractured the team because he believed it should’ve been given to neo more than anyone, and neo lost motivation to lead not long after because of he wasn’t being appreciated.
thank you for not saying "please subscribe". So good quality of the video my friend ( i know but ... ) you will get important really soon :) i subscribed immediatly
Amazing Vid, kinda sad you missed out on the MODs era of CS 1.6 which gave birth to b-hop maps, cs deathmatch, and that weird but fun ladder game of tag lmao.
Source was the one for me. When go was going I went back and we never played with Randoms ever again unless they played in our casual servers and we let em into the 5v5.
bro this is my brainrot for real, i watch a 30 minute video of CS a game i havent played since 2019, like i dont give a fuck about csgo and i got to silver like whatever, and i am watching this happily like dude, best brainrot ever, also im high as fuck right now
And this guy has only 7k subscribers? +1 one my friend. Thanks for trying to explain the CS history. Although you’ve missed a lot of material that would take another 30 minute video🤭 Waiting for part 2! P.s: Nice fragmovies btw.
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"Absolutely not, 16-5" always sends me lol
I didnt know this copypasta belonged to TACO lol
it's an all time classic
*of course not
24:32
A very fun note is that in brazil csgo would only surpass 1.6 in early 2014 since every one hated csgo and the pcs in that time couldn't run csgo well, at the time tournaments were only played in 1.6 and source and it was actually fallen that encouraged every one to switch to csgo giving free classes of the game to new players and organizing small tournaments, fallen saved counter strike in brazil if he didn't encouraged people to switch to csgo counter strike would die in brazil since 1.6 was dropping and would there be no pro players since the money of tournaments would stop as well, that is why Fallen is the Godfather of brazil counter strike.
we love fallen
Also Flusha donated to help Keyd qualify for a tournament which kickstart their run into the scene 🤩
PRESENTE
"PCs in that time couldn't run CSGO very well"
"People were playing 1.6 and not CSGO"
Sounds oddly familiar huh?
ahh yes everyone was resistant to the switch back then
random 4k subscriber channel absolutely CARRYING youtube content as always 🙏
gotta do what you gotta do
Nah corny you can’t lose to a channel with 4k subs. Quick, make a cs video!
omg corny
You really be living up to your name huh
6.75k as I watched it. Nice growth for 2 weeks.
Epic vid, but I feel you missed a couple of important moments in CSGO history, the M4A1S not being in the 1.0 version, Flusha being so ahead of the curve literally everyone was accusing him of cheating, Olofboost incident, first graffiti (Olof Overpass defuse in fire), the fact the revolver was nerfed within 24hrs (thats how bad it was lol), the fact that the first iteration of Astralis left TSM and formed the first player owned team, the tMartin incident with a youtuber promoting his own gambling platform. Also, I feel the forsaken cheating incident was pretty important, as that set the Indian scene back years and years.
I originally in the script mentioned how jw and flusha were the first few two get hundreds of hackusations but it didn’t make it into the final cut :(, you are right about everything else though!
i remember all of this lol & facts
I mean a lot of CS teams started out as player owned teams way back in the early 00s. But some of the bigger ones that were founded/owned specifically by CS players are NiP, Complexity, Mousesports, MeetYourMakers, Moscow 5, and Lemondogs.
Watching this vid is bittersweet. Makes me think of how much time I wasted on CS but also how much fun watching streams and playing was too.
if it was a time that you enjoyed then it wasn’t time wasted my friend
It doesn't matter how long its been the coldzera clip sounds are etched into my psyche
I will forever stand by that nothing will ever top the sheer hype that was FaZe vs Cloud9 at Boston. FaZe - especially Karrigan - understood their role as the villains and played it up like pro wrestling heels. Cloud9 was RED HOT, and the fanbase was at its most rapid. It was an amazing moment im so glad I got to witness. I still go back and watch that series.
whenever NA teams throw or bot out i think to myself, we'll always have boston
Zywoo in Paris is more special to me but Boston is a close second.
X3 vs NiP NoA vs Eolithic
I think the only tournament that surpassed the hype of that boston major was stockholm 2021 with s1mple winning his first major and us finally get a major after 2 years of online tournaments. There's a reason the viewership record to this day is held by that tournament. Even the quarterfinals had more viewers than any other major barring the antwerp one.
@@thee-sportspantheon330 That or s1mple in 2021
Get right winning that major is still the best moment in cs ever
This was a great video!
The only comment I have is that you completely ignored the era of Astralis. No matter how much people (specifically NA) would want to pretend Astralis didn't exist they were the best team of all time. They deserved to at least get a minute talking about how good they were from 2018-COVID but that is just my opinion
No matter what I enjoyed the video!
I was looking for this comment, I remember rooting for them just cuz I wanted to see a team win another grand slam
Hey your comment made it to his new video lol
gosh this one was a doozy
Feel u
Good thing you're the doozer
Those visuals around "no scope, one button, no zoom" were genius 😂😂
34:15 karrigan is not only danish but half danish and half German so he has no relation to Sweden at all. If I remember correctly he stood in for someone that couldn’t make it
great vid as always bro
so funny that you put together a 37 minute video and people in the comments are still telling you that you missed stuff, and they aren't wrong - cs history is just so expansive I think you could make a feature length doc for each cs game that had a comp scene (sorry condition zero)
thank you, I really tried to hit most the important notes that would be interesting to someone who doesn’t know anything about CS but it was difficult to organize everything even by year :(
You got most of the less known and important stuff in well filled up timeline. Good job dude, you did great 😊
And dude the jokes, lowkey jabs and then the Zywoo thing! Still haven't finished tho 😂 really really great video!
It's a nice video, but what I tend to see about these types of videos is that they lack a lot of 1.6 and source history. While source history isn't all that preserved because as you said, the main scene was 1.6 for a very long time, 1.6 does have a lot saved history which can make for a video almost as long as this one.
I get why you had CS:GO for your main portion of the video, but the info for 1.6 is also out there, and it can be just as long, it's just a bit harder to do.
e.g. you missed on saying that while in 1.6 we didn't have 'majors' the 1st ever cpl was technically approved to use the 'cs world championship' label by VALVE themselves, while the rest of the big tournaments we considered as 'majors' were unofficial but were still the most prestigious ones, while acting the same way modern majors do (in total there were 30+ majors throughout 1.6 history)
Also missed out on talking about legendary teams like SK Gaming 2003, establishing one of their own win streaks (they had smth like 50-1 record at some point in maps)
Or talking about mTw 2008 (the danes), the pioneers of succesful and dominant tactical approach style similar to Astralis 2018 (zonic was in that team after all)
Or the golden five of changing orgs constantly but in the end having won the most majors of them all (Neo has 7 1.6 majors to his name, in comparison, f0rest has 3)
Or NaVi 2010, considered by many the GOAT team of 1.6 with 4 majors won in a row.
Or the legendary fnatic 2009, that won crazy amount of tournaments using the OPPOSITE style of mTw, via individual skill.
Or Potti and Heaton, the first great duo and Potti himself being the best player of the world for 3-4 years in the first half of 1.6's history. It wasn't until f0rest and NEO that came along before he lost his 'GOAT' status.
This isn't some in-depth info (though you can find even that if you look for it), but it could have been mentioned same way you mentioned 'oh and Astralis won 4 majors in a row'.
I hope this will help you out for future videos on the matter :)
very good suggestions! gonna remember this comment o7
At first I was like hey there isn’t a lot of 1.6 and pre 1.6 content, but the vid creator did say he was born a year before 2001 and 1.6 came out in 2003. No mention of GotFrag either by the way, but maybe that doesn’t fit in the story. Listening to this vid makes me feel old…
Not sure if you view yourself as such, but this new generation of youtubers covering counterstrike history is great and i really enjoyed this video bro
This video was pretty damn good, and you being able to apparently be a semi-pro player yourself while making entertaining content of this caliber is very cool to see. I have a few critisisms tho. I think you talked about the fluctuations in the pro scene a little too much. Like the different national teams and such. I think the "general trends" and pioneers of the game are more important, as they are what really matters in understanding the context, in which cs players live in. You did do it (at least to about 13min) but left out big phenomena as the brazilian execute, Stewie's arrogant but revolutionary style of playing the game through smokes, Astralis' methodical, ultra teamheavy way of playing the game, i.e. seen in their unstoppable inferno banana strats. And chopper's jumping Mac10 strats. The rise of international teams is also a trend which for the better part of CS:GO's history was apparent. There are other good, lesser ones like arT's ultra aggressive playstyle and Jame time.
There were some updates missed as well, like the introduction of the newer economy system (resets went extinct) and 2nd round force buys. Also AUG and krieg meta. And the introduction of IGLs when the pro ruleset was changed.
But then again, I do see the game in a more idealistic sense compared to many others, so these could just be my preference.
@7:26 le tank was so good you simply cant imagine. bro is so good they brought him out of retirement like john rambo in part 3 😂
Man, I just came across this video now, and I got super tripped out when I just randomly saw my own University at 2:00. Then I got even more tripped out when you said that the inventor of Counter Strike, the game I've been playing since I was 6, made it when he was studying here.
Honestly, I kinda get now why the original maps for CS 1.0 were so dark and depressing, and where the inspiration for cs_prison came from, lol. Working on the mod must've been a creative outlet for him to express his experiences about studying here. I'm currently slogging through my own final year in this gulag of a University, and your video actually gave me a boost to tough it out just a little bit longer.
Thanks for the video mate, you're doing God's work here
Fantastic video! I remember watching so many of those CS:GO moments live.
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Valve is so funny, i dont know how this game persists. I remember the community begging for valve to fix hitboxes in 2016 and all we got was new sounds
haven't physically liked a youtube video in like a year cus im petty like that but you pretty much forced me to watch the entire thing even tho i wanna sleep and its like 3 am rn, great vid bro.
I really appreciate that bro, get some rest tho
24:31 not just the hosts of the best cs tournament of all time, but the hosts of the most fun smash tournament series. Sad that they’re gone.
I think its a little sad that you didnt talk much about dupreeh you talked just a bit at the end but man he deserves much more being the only one to play all cs majors, zywoo s1mple and dev1ce may be the greatest of csgo but dupreeh is the greatest regarding titles great video anyways!!
convincing myself this counts as research for my paper on copyrightability of modded games
oh yeah absolutely counter-strike is a great example for that argument.
Old head here who's been playing since 1.5 this video was amazing. Walk down memory lane.
5v5 | west | de_inferno | yours | cal-m | no pugs - I wish there was a little more coverage on what it took to play competitive in the early/mid 2000s lol. And just what a cultural shift CS was. Add in PC cafes packed til 2AM with people playing CS. Epic times!
Good video nonetheless!
good recs!
YES MIRC
that's a throwback!
#sealteam
Thanks for the video, man. This was pretty fun to watch, to see the story that happened prior to me buying CSGO on impulse in 2017 when I was going into Highschool and found CS as THE game I enjoyed, Multiplayer wise, CoD always felt fun whenever I went to a sleepover, but it was always either zombies, or I was getting stomped because of all the changes each time I'd come over. Meanwhile, I could go months and months and months between play sessions of CS and basically stay the same understanding level.
The reason why Brasil is so good at CS is because back in the 2000' we have a big culture of lan house. CS 1.6 was an absolute fever back here, all the kids would go to lan house play agains each others. Theres also a thing called "corujão" (big owl). Corujão is one day that EVERYONE would go to the lan house and spend all night playing.
BEST CS VIDEO MAKE THAT I SAW. Congrats man. What a good research work you did!!! As a fan and players of this game since 1999, I wanna thank you.
CS:CZ Was underrated. There, I said it.
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Good video. Though I think you should've mentioned around 22:40 that the main reason why Zeus, the IGL of Navi, was replaced was because at the time coaches were allowed to talk during games so many teams were replacing their IGLs with more firepower, and letting the coaches do the in-game calling. Obviously, Valve then made the ruling that coaches are only allowed to talk during tactical pauses, so many teams that had replaced their IGLs didn't do so well, like Navi and NIP. It did make Zeus's major win with Gambit all that sweeter.
What a nice video, thank you for this.
As for donk, these child prodigies that seemingly appear out of nowhere are usually 10 THOUSAND hours into playing the game, practically being raised to pro play. Donk is currently at 13,772 hours in CS:GO/2, and hasn't even gotten the max level trading card badge.
I can't believe how a fairly simple FPS game has so much history. Great vid!
I was looking for a video like this a few months ago and almost wanted to make one myself lol good work
awesome video, one update you forgot to mention that was pretty big was the ability to drop nades and how that had a pretty big change to the meta.
This is great, I really liked when the Counter did the Strike, why can i not find love.
Awesome video, the writing and editing kept it very interesting! :)
My god this was a good video, so much nostalgia. You just remembered me why I feel in love with this game
actually incredible video, insane amount of research u must've had to do. i would love to see a part 2 with some of the random little things that were missed that ive seen in comments
comments were the inspiration for the astralis video! I could do a part two, just need to think of a way to make it without just being like (part 2) in the title LOL
Wow this is a really comprehensive video and I was engaged 100% of the way through.
This video should has at least hundreds of thousands views, I wish you this. Thanks for great video
very good vid, didn’t talk about map pool that much towards the end like anubis being added but you hit all the important parts
Incredible video and a pleasure to watch. The only two big omissions are the olofboost incident and the Astralis era. Olofboost I can get, it was one tournament that wasn't notable but Astralis literally dominated everything on and off for like almost two full years and none of that was mentioned outside of the majors. Either way, massive respect for this video! I can't imagine how much research you did.
olofboost was definitely a miss on my part and astralis needed some more time in the spotlight I agree. I am getting a lot of shit for that and m0nsey but it’s reasonable 😭😭
@@theletterkei don’t take it hard man, you just made a video about the development and esports history of a franchise that’s multiple decades old and people only have a couple things we think you missed. You covered so much it’s insane and I hope you keep making content like this cause it was awesome :)
How does this guy only have 7k subs? This was an insanely well made video
fantastic video and it's awesome how much you covered in 37 minutes :D
i do wish you covered who broke NIP's 87-0 run (virtus pro) since that was a big moment of cs history and highlighted happy's deagle ace (because batchest popular play) but other than that i think you absolutely nailed this kei
What a banger of a video. I was expecting this to be a rather boring rundown of CS history, but instead didn't even notice that the 10minute video I clicked on was in fact 40minutes long.
This video is the greatest cs video i have ever watched, from editing to story telling this shit is perfect. Respect 🙌
Enlisted is Fireeee, first time ive seen an actual good sponsor game thats sick. And as always a good video🤝
holy moly this is art
HI MANASJI
I don't know why I would watch another one of these but I do, we do, we all always do. Thanks for making a new one 🥰
amazing work, someone who was into early csgo esports but havent watched in ages, this was just a bliss to watch
Great video! Would've wanted more on what weapon was added or modified in the 1.6 and Source days and what was taken from each, but otherwise it was a great watch.
this was one of the most well made videos ive ever watched
the cs summit part ripped me out of my chair and took me back to the good old days
Quick comment from someone who is really old: when steam came out (timestamp 3:12) nobody thought it was pretty cool, everyone fucking hated it. Why? Valve basically forced you to run their online shop on your local computer if you wanted to play CS1.6. Then they turned off WON (the infrastructure to play HL, CS1.5 etc) so you had to make that switch. Nowadays where PC resources are ample nobody cares anymore but keep in mind that in 2003 people had like 256MB of ram and you would close other applications such as ICQ before starting any game. And suddenly you had to run steam in the background. Nobody liked that.
Not only that, but all the errors. Sometimes it wouldn't load for you, sometimes someone on your team. It was a giant pain.
1:56 ahhh der kistengang xD some things are impossible to forget. xD
I like this guy humor, this man deserves a sub!
you just injected me with a huge dose of nostalgia
Really impressed by amount of time and effort you spent to make things video happen. Thank you.
16:32 LMFAO the best clip of all time
15-5
"Guys if you think that we are good,now its time to prove it!"
-Did you do the comeback?
"Of course not"
16-5
even better, it's FALLEN HIMSELF saying "did we come back". he didn't remember.
with regards to the whole first half...
Source was a very popular game, one of the most played on steam, its just "competitive CS" wasnt the focus. It was primarily a game for fun, mods, community servers. Games focusing on their competitive, ranked for a large portion of the playerbase has only really been a major trend since the late 2000s-early 2010s.
Its interesting you made the distinctions between 1.6 and source players being that 1.6 players were more tactically minded and source players were mechanical gods when NIP made their money on having the best players in GTR, F0rest, Xizt and the source (french) players really rallied behind their tactics ala ex6tenz line ups.
I'm not saying you're entirely wrong (as we would see later with happys envyus)... just a bit of food for thought.
I played a lot of 1.6 back in 2002-2006 but I never really touched source so I only really know one side of the coin.
Great video.
ex6tenz was definitely an exception! i just think the star players from source always had incredibly flashy playstyles like kenny, shox, scream, nbk, guardian, and although 1.6 had some flashy dudes as well I think it's easier to name the ones from source haha
@theletterkei Hard to argue with names like that. Cheers 🍻
its just the nature of 1.6 that focused on positioning more while source had the clunky movement *cough* phoon *cough* that encouraged this kind of playstyle
But yeah there are just as many, if not even more flashy players in 1.6 (mostly because the 1.6 scene was more developed) compared to source@@theletterkei
We can find that distinction about 1.6 players even in that 2013 NiP roster, GeT_RIGHT himself is that positioning/lurker god, while f0rest is the complete opposite, the natural talent that has that smooth and crispy aim, especially in 1.6.
Why does this guy sound exactly like Tripp 💀
I remember when the Revolver came out. I was MGE unable to hit heads but always hit 1 hit. I became a demon with that thing and ranked up three times. When they nerfed it I instantly down ranked...
the letter kei more like the letter swag
Early csgo csgolounge era was gold aswell, 14yo me betting all my money (a 2$ m4) on a team I never heard bro … nostalgia hits hard
never forget betting up to a m4 masterpiece and then losing it after betting on Team AGG who had a 7% chance to win. csgolounge had probably one of the biggest effects on youth gambling LMAO
facts (btw very nice video and its a pleasure to see that you read the comments, good luck for the future bro)@@theletterkei
absolute fucking banger of a video, i appreciate you bringing me back to the great times we all had watching pro cs in its prime
Ouff that took me back quite a few times hahahaha. Nice effort. Nicely done
You young gun, made a good attempt. Glossed over the formation of e sports during and prior to 1.6, and didn't mention cal-i leagues
I planned on covering those in more detail this video but when the script was already like 10 pages before source even released I was like shit I need to revise. I will talk about this more in the future!
Depths of CS lore are cavernous. People at that time didn't know what they were part of, and recording hardware was few and far between. I know it's a lot of effort, but there's still many that would gladly reminisce if interviewed.
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CZ initially costed $300 and replaced P250
oh shit you're right I totally forgot about that
"Theres truly nothing like it"
Teamliquid with a death stare
it's a close 2nd, bonus points for covering dozens of other competitive games too! but HLTV really is in a league of it's own since they're ONLY counter-strike though.
Should've said something about m0nesy since you mentioned donk, apart from that great video, keep it up mate
bro please keep uploading this content it's amazing 🙏
>Skate 3 mentioned
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Condition Zero single player was fun. With the bots set at the highest difficulty(basically aim bot) the single player prooved to be a challenge as you had to know where all the bots would be
The quality of your videos legit deserve over 100k Views, maybe even more than 500k, i seriously don't understand how you don't have more views and subscribers.
Trust me bro, one day one of your videos will blow up and so will your channel.
how tf does this vid not have like a 100k views already. sick
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"this was the year I was born" makes me feel old
Great video! I like the summary of 1.6, css and csgo. Only point would be that I feel like you glossed over the absolute dominance of the astralis era, as for like 2 years other teams were practically competing for the second place in tournaments, a type of dominance only rivaled by NiP in a game that had just been released
check out my last video brother!! it’s all about astralis
@@theletterkei I've seen it. I just feel it should have been a bigger focus in a video titled "the entire history of counter strike"
Would really like to see historical recaps of old tournaments. Especially 1.6 tournaments, but I understand that footage for those can be hard to find and really low quality
while I was writing the script I had initially intended to do this! but then I realized that this video would be 6 hours long and never get finished had I done that. I would love to make a separate video covering them though if people would be interested.
@theletterkei I can't speak for the algorithm, but I would definitely be interested. "Old" cs can often be very mysterious for people who started later on, and there aren't many good ways to learn about it.
The youtube channel "Ancient CS" has collected and uploaded a lot of videos of demos from old tournaments from 1.6 and older versions in great quality. And don't forget that CS had tournaments before 1.6/steam was released as well and and those earlier versions had slightly different mechanics and the maps differed which tends to be glossed over a bit.
There are also tons of interviews by Thorin with oldschool players, and he has also very valuable articles about best teams from that era, players, narratives and more. Definitely a lot of info you can find about and I would love to see a video focusing only on the 1.6 stuff from early 2000 until late 2012 and 'beyond' (guess what, some people still host small 1.6 tournaments to this day : D)@@theletterkei
The ddlc music scared the shit out of me 😭
20:10 got me dying 🤣🤣🤣
Loved every second of it. Well done!
Nice video! A little sad to not see more of Astralis dominante (I know its a bit boring) but revamping the whole way the game is played is not such a simple feat
I’ve been playing since 2001. I still play 1.6 and source both have good solid communities. I’ve never played csgo and I still haven’t played cs2
About V.P and that Mercedes being given to TaZ.
As Snax said on @PodcastNatarczywych:
TaZ told other guys about the situation and everyone agreed that TaZ should just keep the car. Snax said he himself didn't really care (since they all earned good money, and the car itself wouldn't make such a big difference in pay). He took over the IGL role from Neo to help him recover his form, but he saw some articles and interviews where people (i assume he meant people as in someone from V.P) said things like "Now he will know how it feels to IGL", as if he was to blame for their poor performance. After a few months, Snax posted a jab at his teammates after learning that actually there was some bad blood between the rest of the team.
Snax's "jab" was basically him annoucing he is stepping down from being IGL and he said in the same post that "guys born in 87' and lower couldn't fit to play my style (freestyle) so they were looking for issues everytime, i think this decission is adequate since some lack strenght (skill) to help pull the team forward"
pasha said on a different podcast that it definitely fractured the team because he believed it should’ve been given to neo more than anyone, and neo lost motivation to lead not long after because of he wasn’t being appreciated.
Some Incredible Work Presenting This
Definitely not Perfect
But Thanks for This Great Work My Man
Wonderful History
counter strike was thought of at SFU?? Literally smartest person to come out of sfu
thank you for not saying "please subscribe". So good quality of the video my friend ( i know but ... ) you will get important really soon :) i subscribed immediatly
Amazing Vid, kinda sad you missed out on the MODs era of CS 1.6 which gave birth to b-hop maps, cs deathmatch, and that weird but fun ladder game of tag lmao.
Awesome video, would've liked to see you mention ence's run at IEM Katowice 2019 :)
I loved Condition Zero when i was a kid, still do after playing Global Offensive
Source was the one for me. When go was going I went back and we never played with Randoms ever again unless they played in our casual servers and we let em into the 5v5.
I'm a 1.6 player, this was a nice video. ❤🤧👍
Let me make feel old if you played cs during when awp had 10 bullets, and m4a1-s had 30 bullets that was almost 2 years ago 😢
bro this is my brainrot for real, i watch a 30 minute video of CS a game i havent played since 2019, like i dont give a fuck about csgo and i got to silver like whatever, and i am watching this happily like dude, best brainrot ever, also im high as fuck right now
And this guy has only 7k subscribers? +1 one my friend. Thanks for trying to explain the CS history. Although you’ve missed a lot of material that would take another 30 minute video🤭 Waiting for part 2!
P.s: Nice fragmovies btw.
Great video, shortest 37 minutes of my life, subscribed!