EMAX Tinyhawk II & Mobula6: Review and comparison
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ม.ค. 2020
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Fantastic flying and review, Lee! 😃
Both look great!
I've been having a lot of fun flying my Mobula 6 through my DIY LED race gates, as my recent TH-cam uploads show, but there is a problem with it - If you try to fly with a battery that's lower than 3v charge voltage, there is a chance it will brownout and wipe the EEPROM, erasing all the Betaflight settings and radio binding. Happened to mine 3 times so far.
Once your Mobula 6 is setup and working, do a CLI "dump all" and save it, so you can paste it in & rebind the radio if necessary.
BTW my FlySky version came with a little note saying if I find the range isn't good enough then I should plugin the included FS82 RX module...! I've only been able to fly it indoors so far (typical British winter weather) so haven't had range problems (yet).
Thanks for the info, I was wondering why mine had to be re-set (twice), need to keep it above 3V, thanks! Have you tried flashing it to 48 ghz? I heard it adds flight time
I had the same issue
great review as allways Lee.great little kwads
great information Lee thanks very much
A couple of great little quads.
Hi Lee yet another great video and yep I got the TH2. Have you ever heard of "Project Mockingbird V3" for the TinyHawk 2. It's all about retuning the Betaflight parameters to get the very best out of the TH2. The difference is unbelievable. Cheers again Lee...
I have, that is what I was alluding to at the end. Have you tried it? It's something I've been looking at doing..
Fantastic review. I love my TinyHawk 2. Great indoor and outdoor flyer.
Joseph Bove do you fly 1s indoors and 2s outdoors? Or either way
@@danb1264 I've been flying 1s indoors and outdoors. Try the RDQ 650mah battery. Longer flight times and the motors and battery stay cool. I have the original TH and with the right settings that thing screams! Still haven't bought the Mobula 6. Guess I'm more of an Emax fan than I thought. Lol Stay safe and happy flying.
The tinyhowk 2 automatically change the pids profile when detect the battery voltage. If you put a xt30 and flash the ESCs to 48khz, you get about 40 extra seconds of fly
the xt30 upgrade was well worth it, it also got rid of almost all batt sag when on 2s.
Thanks for the video 👍
Couldn't decide so I bought both. Tinyhawk is good for plodding about and practising stick control but the Mobula6 gives me more confidence indoors through gaps etc (just ordered a 2nd and an ELRS version)
Cheers for the review, thought id mention when you get caught in the air like that in the tiny hawk, you can switch to horizon or acro, and tilt it a little bit more, and it will go against the wind, on 2s it has no trouble at all with a pretty heavy breeze
Isn’t there also the assisted acro mode now.
I love the Mobula6!
Thanks for the video.
One slight correction on the connectors pin construction of the TinyHawk 2 and that is it’s still a hollow pin construction (unless there are different versions already). I just checked mine that I received this past week and it has hollow pins.
I've had this one from before Xmas so it's possible... Happy flying!
Painless360 it’s interesting that their first batch have them and not their more current ones. It just doesn’t make any sense!
Sam Avella I replaced mine with solid pin connector.
I’ve been into FPV whoops for under a year now, and I’ve already destroyed 2 mob 7’s and an eachine 65 mm brushed whoop. I’m looking for something with a super strong frame so I don’t have to keep replacing them. I hope the Mob 6 is good, because If it dies on me then I’m givin up on the hobby
It depends on how they are being destroyed. If its crashing and lots of wear and tear then the EMAX Tinyhawk is built to survive a lot more bumping into stuff....
Own both. TH 2 best first ever drone to learn. Mobula 6, takes more skills, but a LOT more rewarding to fly.
I usually build and set up my own quads.....However I've decided I want an indoor smooth quad to fly around the house I did have a mobula7 over a year ago but even with throttle taming on betaflight I just couldn't get on with it and got rid of it.
Watching a few youtube videos i'm now thinking of buying the new Emax tinyhawk 2 flying on 1s battery looks like a smooth indoor flyer (im not looking to race just to fly around the house under the tables chairs etc)...So here's my question ?
My TX is a Taranis X9D+ Special Edition which is a EU version and my four outside quads all have EU software R-SXR receivers on them bound to D16.
My Tx had either D16 or LR12 bind modes....Ive just put the latest Taranis update on my radio not ticking 'eu' on Open TX when I flashed it so now I have the option of either D16 or D8 binding.
I've read online that through betaflight in the receiver option you can change the tinyhawk 2 from a 'Frsky D for 8 channel' to 'Frsky X for 16 channel' so the real question is this.....Can I now bind in D8 Mode or D16 Mode and what would be the difference am I still getting full telemetry in both ?
I only have one model set up in my Tx so all my quads are bound to that ie D16 mode so if I bound to D8 my other models wouldn't work unless I created a second model to bind in D8 ?
Basically if I bound in D16 like all the other four quads I could then run the tinyhawk on the one model set up but would I still get telemetry ? I'm just trying to work out the difference between D8 and D16 ?
The Emax tinyhawk states its a spi receiver compatible with Frsky D8 mode ?
Thanks for any advice .
Could you expand on your recommendation to be careful using FrSky X rather than D? Specifically, is it possible to use the TH2 with something like the X-Lite Pro which doesn't do D8?
There is a well known issue when using D16 (x series) protocol with telemetry on with a lot of these SPI recievers. You get very poor range... See some of my other recent reviews..
Emax sacrificed flight time for a better camera, I think I'll stick with the Tinyhawk S, I get over 5 minutes of flight time with 3.3v to spare.
Great video! I'm a beginner, Would it be better to buy the Rtf version of the Tinyhawk II or a bnf mobula 6 flysky version? I have a FS-i6x transmitter. And I'm considering buying the Eachine EV800 Dm to go along with the mobula 6 and my transmitter. Hope to hear your thoughts!
If you already have a radio then buying something that works with it is a better idea IMHO (assuming that you are confident to setup the model on the radio and bind it)..
What would you consider the best RTF Whoop kit be atm? And or best start up Remote, Goggles and Whoop? Something that I won't grow out of right away. 👍
The EMAX is one of the best. The thing is that 'best' is subjective so what may be perfect for one pilot will not be for another. See my Sub250g playlist for all of the ones I've reviewed (Videos are clearly dated too so you can see the newer ones)
Great video thanks. Would you say these would be the best on the market for indoor flying?
They are both great to fly but I like the EMAX models for indoors - see the Sub 250g playlist for modern alternatives..
I enjoyed my Tiny Hawk S but there's a design problem no one seems to talk about. The motors are upside down & the props are held in place by friction. The result of these two aspects mean that when you try to use flip over after crash it just throws its props off!
I've never had that issue with any of my hawks lol
@@bluelinefpv559 Happens every damn time for me. I'm getting a Mobula 6 instead now.
@@davidrgilson sorry you have had that luck with the Hawk man.
I fly the original 3 blade props on my th2 and on 2s flips no problems.
Good video!!👍Wich googles are u using also wich radio?
See my Kit Picks 2020 video for my choices.. Happy flying!
My friend great video and comparison , I have a lot of battery of 1s emax tinyhawk s they will work with modula 6 ?
If they are the same specs and roughly the same size - yes.
@@Painless360 Thanks they are not the same but they are Jst ph2.0 conector 450mha hv gnb ... i think will gonna work .... hahahhaha
I love both of mine be.
No need to change PID profile when changing from 1s to 2s - its configured to recognise the cell count and automatically select the correct profile , which is nice :-)
ScowlerJase how did you do that?
Jonas Hediger it comes preconfigured like that.
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hi i hope you can help me?
after your review i purchased a tinyhawk2 and set it up using betaflight flight on my jumper t16
every thing is working fine apart from one problem.
i have set my end points to 1000 to 2000 and calibrated my tx
but when i arm the tinyhawk the props spin up evan at the minimum throttle setting?
how do i correct this so the are at idel when i arm?
please help as it is driving me mad i am new to fpv copters
best regards
Nobby
Turn on Motor_Stop on the top right hand of the configuration tab. See my video on Betaflight BNF setup...
thanks for your help
your videos are like gold dust 😇 now all i need to do is learn to fly 🙈🙈🙈
Please do a speed test of the tiny hawk 2 or compare the speed of it to the tiny hawk 1 because everyone flies it super slow on camera and no one flies it fast to its limits. I’m asking for this because my tiny hawk 1 broke and I want to buy the tiny hawk 2 but I want to make sure it’s at least about the same speed and also because nobody else has done it
I can't do that for you as these have already being passed on as prizes.. Best of luck!
Hi there just wondering if you can help I have a tint hawk 2 rtf kit as I'm a fpv noob and mid flight I lost rssi now when I turn my drone on I have 2 flashing leads red and blue and I can enter bind mode but cant bind the emax controller any help would be much appreciated thank
I've not used the EMAX controller here. Something else must have happened apart from 'lost rssi'. I'd check the manual for what those LEDs mean and see if it offers any tips.. Best of luck..
@@Painless360 cheers mate nothing inn the manual about it i have reset it all now i gett low rssi but thanks for your help mate
Any tips advise. Finding mob6 won't hover. Just brought myself the mobula 6 and TX16s. Only trying LOS for now so delaying google purchase. Flown a few "toy" drone most recent being a x900 and the seem ok. But with mob6 can't get a steady hover. Seems to find a throttle level and then it will suddenly drop or raise. Willing to put it down to fat fingers and lack of finesse perhaps. But just wondering if I missed something or it a fault. Tried tweak throttle curves etc but not found a good combo. Inside flying 1m height.
See my video on tweaking the throttle. Google something like 'throttle hover painless360'
@@Painless360 Cheers will take a look. Have tensioned the gimbles a bit as both ratchet and friction adjustments seems to be basically zero on my TX16s and has helped a bit so hopefully this may be the final helper. Am starting to see some progress as was, but was still loosing any control on yaw.
I know this is an older video but ,Have you ever had the TH II apart? It appears the connector the motor plugs into is glued onto the board, not soldered. I went to unplug a motor ( 3 came unplugged easy enough) the 4th one when I went to unplug and did not even pull on it,the entire connector came off the board....it appears to have been glued and not soldered...it has three pin connector in the bottom front and one contact on each bottom corner on the rear, and it appears to just lays on the contacts on the board and is glued down to ensure contact ( I see no way or know of no iron that small and thin to be able to get under the connector to solder anything on the board contacts)....any advice or suggestions or any knowledge of it would be appreciated...Thanks in advance
I never had to. Happy flying!
@@Painless360 Thanks for the reply anyway .
You need to fly the 25000kv mobula6! All i've done is flash jesc 48khz and i'm getting around 3-3:30 of pretty flat out flying with it. Amazing something so small can freestyle well enough that you want to fly it that way!
Tinyhawk 2 has been alot better whoop racer thats for sure!! I really thought mobula6 would be faster and feels faster... But lap times and race wins don't lie.
Cheers
Mob 6 frame is fine, i have done over 100 packs flying a track round my engineering workshop full of hard metal and concrete and have crashed alot,
Video of the track
th-cam.com/video/xrUWMMX8qRk/w-d-xo.html
Mobula more responsive? EMAX 60%expo/Mobula 0% expo. EMAX cam for the win!
It's always interesting to see how the manufacturer sets up the model - that's why I show the BF config. Let's you see how they tweaked it... Happy flying!
Mobula 6 fc is very poor quality. Second battery 2 esc burnt out. I'll never buy a crazy bee board again. Emax quality is fantastic, i have 5 emax, never a problem.
Tinyhawk is better anything happymodel makes is just junk you will be lucky if it lasts a.month.
If you use it properly, buy from trusted sources and not be an asshole, nothing like that will happen.
Lee, you missed the entire point and the MAIN RULE OF THUMB WITH WHO0PS!
*IT'S ALL ABOUT WEIGHT WITH TINY WHO0PS!*
There's no comparison! The Emax who0p weighs 11 grams... Yes! Over 50% more than the Mobula6!
It's too damn heavy! 😩
Every other review I have watched says it's just a mediocre flyer because it's too heavy... And trying to do too much! Fly on both 1s and 2s and it does NEITHER VERY GOOD! To hell with the case, LED's, and all of the other junk... *IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE IF THE WHO0P DOESN'T FLY VERY GOOD!*
At 31g it's just another bloated cow 🐮. Exactly like all of the other who0ps where the manufacturer tried to make it a jack of all trades and do too much! *It fails at everything because of the excessive weight!*
Where as, like you said, the Mobula6 is the lightest brushless who0p you've ever seen... Remember, *it's all about weight with who0ps* ...
So it flies *BEST IN CLASS* because it weighs a mere 19.7 grams! 😎👍
And, when it comes right down to it, isn't that what we all really want, a who0p that flies amazing!? Y E S ! 😁🤘
*Why buy mediocre when you can get BEST IN CLASS?* 🤔 😉
These two models are aimed at different flying experiences so one will suit better than the other, depending on what you are looking for. Consider the expo settings in Betaflight for an insight into how differently EMAX and Happymodel have setup and positioned their quads. Thanks for posting your opinion. Please remember that other opinions are available and valid too ;) Happy flying!
This has been my dilemma....I was torn between the Mobula 6 or Tinyhawk 2.......And as Lee says different quads will appeal to different people depending on how you want the quad to fly.......My example I usually build and set up my own quads for outdoor flying but last year I wanted a indoor quad for flying through small gaps ie under tables and chairs etc and at the time the mobula7 was the 'best ever tiny quad' so I bought one......It was impossible to tame enough through betaflight to get a smooth fight so I was either on the ceiling or floor and hitting chair legs etc plus there seemed to be a lost signal issue and the quad would just drop to the floor for no reason (obviously a build quality issue) anyway I gave up with it and eventually binned it !
This year I've decided on the Tinyhawk 2 even though the Mobula6 is now out purely because watching TH-cam videos I can see the Mobula 6 is still flighty indoors like the Mobula 7 was......I'm personally after controlled smooth fight which I'm sure the Tinyhawk 2 will give me plus the build quality looks better.......I'm not knocking anyone who wants the Mobula6 if you want a fast indoor racer then yes that's the one to go for but if you want a smoother controlled flight then the Tinyhawk 2 is the one to go for........There is no right or wrong answer you just have to decide what you want your quad for ?
I disagree. The tinyhawk 2 flies better and laps faster than the mobula 6. I have and love both.
This was another review that swung it for me buying the Tinyhawk 2......th-cam.com/video/AVMwilgN0p8/w-d-xo.html
Scoot Roter And it’s still faster than the mobula 6.