Biggest Moments in the Karen Read Case | Killer or Cover-Up Murder Trial
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- Could #TrooperProctor's behavior impact other murder trials? #CourtTV's Vinnie Politan and experts analyze some of the biggest moments in the case against #KarenRead.
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@@ClauTo-oh5qu really what..? lol.
she is innocent and you suck
I'm surprised a woman in the USA is getting support, so she must be innocent, as I'm so used to the internet being full of USA men who spend their time promoting hatred against woman. Like those incels who are angry and confused why women prefer men who want to make them feel good.
Yes to all you lawyers, it’s NOT clear or simple. Its confusing. So many things like not getting the instructions in writing, in my state of NY not being able to take notes? It’s nuts. When u r deciding major things like this, u should be doing everything u can to make it clear. In my industry in healthcare, lawyers wouldn’t automatically understand either. It’s just a fact.
I think it's crazy that, for the most part, your guests poo-poohed the defense's reconstruction expert. The man not only wiped the floor with Trooper Paul while making it EXTREMELY clear why JO'K couldn't have been hit by a car, but he did it with SCIENCE. And a yeet cannon.
If the car didn't hit, you must aquit! Physics doesn't lie! Not Guilty!
Guilty
@@luisaramirez7502, I’m curious. Why do you think she’s guilty? Both medical examiners have testified that the injuries were not consistent with being hit by a car, and both accident reconstructists hired by the Feds testified that if the car had hit someone at 24mph, as the prosecution claims, then it would have had much more damage. What are you seeing in the evidence that is more compelling that that evidence?
@@flairballshe’s a jealous woman with internalized self loathing. No other logical actual argument. Pitiful. Notice those saying that never give real reasons? They compare her to ppl she’s nothing at all like. They yell about red flags and sleeping around. Make up stories. They sound like 1800s Salem MA witch trials. They want Read to wear the scarlet letter and be stoned in the town square. 😂
@@flairball he has cognitive dissonance
@@flairballhe has troll fever. He must troll for attention.
The two (independent) science guys said he was not hit by her car. That's all I needed to hear.
I agree, it's just unfortunate that the jurors weren't allowed to know that the FBI hired them. The jurors also were not allowed to know that many of the prosecutor's witnesses are currently under investigation by the FBI in this case and the Sandra Birchmore case. Those currently being investigated (to my knowledge) are DA Morissey and Troopers Proctor, Higgins and Lank.
You could play wack-a-mole with the reasonable doubt in this case.
Competing testimony from experts. Obviously that’s not the entire story or the jury would be back by now.
Trooper Paul or Dr Wolfe? I’m done. Not hit=Not guilty.
Except they didn’t look at all the evidence, they didn’t look at the actual car & headlight, they weren’t at the crime sign and didn’t examine the body in person
They were in court but not JO’S funeral?
I think you’re relaying incorrect info.
Who didn’t attend the funeral? McCabe and Albert’s?
Yep!!!!!!!!
It was said to one of those lying witnesses on the stand! They in fact did not go to John’s funeral
They did go to the funeral, stop spreading lies please.Karen on thr other hand did not go.
Whether you believe she’s guilty or not, I truly don’t think that anyone could look at this case, and honestly say that there’s no reasonable doubt, and that alone means she shouldn’t be found guilty.
Exactly this
Maybe you think there’s a good chance she did it, but do you think it’s BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT she did it? If your confidence is any less than 99.99% you must acquit
Pieces of her cars tail light were at the scene. There's nothing in the area for her to have hit BUT him . There's no doubt in my mind . Her ca made contact with his body. Hit n run. Guilty
@@Lisalisa-zt2pwyou must not have watched the whole trial. The first day they had a lot of officers searching the scene, even on their hands and knees. Not one piece was found. Then magically a lot of pieces were found days later, some as large as a salad plate - after Reads car was impounded. A child could have found a huge piece of red plastic in a yard. But not a bunch of trained officers? Ok.
No doubt. Guilty
@@thatgirlray2765Yep! “And to a moral certainty” in Massachusetts.
To her credit she changed the form because the feds are involved.
she makes the calls in this trial. feds opinions don’t matter at all.
but not as originally requested by Jackson.
No credit deserved by Judge Aunty Bev.
Ruined it all at the end. Curveball reissuing jury directions
@@lindafinch1520exactly 🤣
The MCALBERTS should NOT have been allowed in that courtroom on the LAST day of court! They were trying to intimidate! That’s obvious
Alberts
@@ashadecastro276we call them McAlberts. The Canton Mafia.
@@ashadecastro276 McAlberts is a term to describe the Alberts and the McCabes who are related, friends, conspirators and murderers.
What ??? They lost Another beloved family member!!!!
MCabes were there also. They filled the entire row behind OKeefes family 🤷🏻♀️
isn’t the jurors suppose to find Karen not guilty if the prosecution didn’t prove their case??????? Because they absolutely DID NOT prove anything
That’s how it’s suppose to be, but there’s probably at least one juror that has no logical reasoning or common sense.
It only takes one juror to hold out and they cannot be intimidated by the rest of the jury! They will continually be sent back to deliberate for quite a while before a hung jury is called!
No evidence, but lots of gossip, that's for sure...Lally's timeline didn't even say when he was hit?!? 😂
pos fecked up he dot the timeline wrong then tried to say half 12 i thiught thats when pp were drink driving taking pp home only one person said they saw a lump on the lawn but i heard she was more drunk than the rest of them how can they bring charges when the fbi said she didnt hit him wi the car he was beat up in that house.
Guilty. Proven.
So glad she had to eat crow and make the necessary changes. So much attitude coming from that judge.
Just because that's the way it's always been done does not mean it is right or the most clear for the jurors.
Judge Bev should study Maya's judge, Judge Carrol. Or even Murdaugh's Judge. Those judges listened to both sides and attempted to apply the law fairly. Auntie Bev was blantly biased. Disgusting to our justice system.
I wonder how many times that verdict form has caused a juror to mistakingly tic off a box just because they assumed they had to? It is most definitely more confusing to the jury, than t is the lawyers in this court!
Very well said.
@@noodlesmom01 I hate bev, she is prolly the most unprofessional judge I’ve seen far as sighing and showing emotion. That being said it’s not uncommon for a judge to heavily favor the prosecution unfortunately. If you think that’s not the case you haven’t closely paid attention to many trials. In front of the jury bev actually plays the game pretty well and is pretty fair to both sides. Outside the presence of the jury she’s been very bias against the defense. I will say the defense especially Jackson has really been pushing the envelope and has been borderline aggressive, antagonistic, and demeaning. That puts a ton of pressure on the judge to referee things.
@@ryancox7155well clearly Jackson has to be!! Bias Bev is so inappropriate in so so many ways. I wish the jury knew what we all know about her being in with the actual guilty parties. She is a disgrace.
This judge gives me the impression from her sighing and moaning that she really doesn’t want to be there
Exactly
She probably doesn't, it is probably heart breaking to her that so many law enforcement officers behave as such.
I mean… who doesn’t get annoyed at work? Especially when you are constantly arguing.
@@evan1586She (The Judge) has behaved as unprofessional and biased as the rest of "law officials" 😡🤦🏻♀️ she doesn't want to be there because she realizes her "side" will lose
Yet she refused to excuse herself when the defense team asked her to do so.
Trooper P is disgusting. Who would want him showing up to protect them! He’s a disgrace!
You can't blame him for calling her every name in the book HE LOST IT, THEY WERE ALL CLOSE FRIENDS FOR A VERY LONG TIME!
YOU CAN'T BLAME HIM! PUT YOUSELF IN THE COPS SHOE SHE KILLED HIM.
BLAME
@@katherineripley2967 apparently him and his superiors are no different. How scary is that, they are a menace and I ask the universe to protect the jury from all of them (including the judge)
Aaaww.......your feelings hurt because not everyone believes psycho Karen? She IS a nut case. She killed one of his people. She took an uncle away from his niece & nephew who had already lost their parents. She took Paul O'Keefes' only sibling he had left. And now his parents have ONE son left. They had three children. Because of her jealousy and rage, and because she had NINE drinks, she saved her own ass and left John to freeze to death.
Beyond disgusting. He is vile. His mind is a complete sewer.
Disgrace to the human race.
One problem Joseph, this is one of the worst police investigations of a 'brother' in history, and consequential cover-up.
I didn’t have strong feelings about this judge because I don’t understand enough about proper form and when certain questions are proper or not…..
but that single interaction spoke volumes about her professionalism and character.
She didn’t want to concede or backtrack as the judge - and then she took her frustration out by calling out the defendant for reacting with frustration.
It’s her life on the line, judge, no I doubt she thinks it’s funny.
Someone needed to put her in her place. She is up against some serious charges but her snarkiness,flirtations, smirking etc throughout the trial is hardly appropriate under her circumstances imo. The Judge had it with her watching the behavior for weeks. She ended up folding anyways.
Alan Jackson was absolutely BRILLIANT and Not putting up with her CRAP, because what ??? She's TIRED 😱😱😱😱Bev you need Anger Management !!!!!!!!!!!!
Ha trying to bluff. He’s bluffed many. Unless he luffed the jury then this phantom cover up might blow up in his Face.
@joolz1063. The Judge needs anger management? I hardly think that’s the case at all! Did you even watch the trial and listen to Karen’s screaming Voicemails to John? 😂. Glad you are NOT on the jury!!!
@@j.c.7555 Even if Karen hit him-Dr.Russel testified&Autopsy show beaten to death dog bites & hypothermia-Brian&Colin&Higgins brought John to basement.He reported Colin for dealing drugs-MOTIVE‼️ glad YOU'RE not in the jury!
@@j.c.7555Your talking apples and oranges. There’s a huge difference between Karen’s angry VMs when she thought John was out and possibly cheating, and the judge sighing and acting snarky only for the defense. One is someone being upset in an emotional situation, the other just unprofessional.
Not tired oh swinging on her chair tiring lol
The world is watching we see a lot of let's say pro CW
Wow the Albert's are actually sitting next to the victim's family is wild...They can sit next to the family in court BUT DID NOT come out of the house when he was laying on their front lawn
Mr. Jackson is correct she’s like trying to lead the jury to say that she’s guilty of of the charge. If you don’t put boxing not guilty how can they determine what can they say that she’s not guilty that they’re gonna have to check one of the boxes that are there if that’s not available then you directing the jury to say that she’s guilty..
If the victim was covered in snow..how did karen know it was john?..it could have just been a mound of snow...she knew
cause he is missing and what other person would be there or snow mound or bump.
This Joe guy is ALWAYS anti Karen. No matter the evidence, he is pro Guilty. Pretty silly.
Yesssssss... definitely a hater of Karen Read.
He’s stupid, really stupid.
Very pro guilty., the defense experts were indeed qualified in comparison to the prosecutions. The last 2x experts were hired originally by the fbi. This guys does not make any sense. Just common sense tells you she’s not guilty .
He is definitely a troll!
Pretty sure he's trolling
2:31 "Her Majesty was feeling tired", this Judge is a sad joke for the Justice system
She is a political employee of the state that represents the prosecution. That’s how it appears. She is so pro-prosecution and it is blatantly obvious.
@@markbaz4200Yes, at least she toned down all the dramatic sighing, only at the defense, after the first few days. She was probably reading all the comments 😂
I just watched Karen take a picture with a boy obviously a fan. 😡 😡 Next she'll be giving out autographs while a family still grieves. This woman is wacked
The boy wanted to meet her because he suffers from the same gastrointestinal issues as she does. He apparently gets bullied at school due to the fact that he has a colostomy bag. How sad is that ! She was just trying to be kind.
I agreev100 percent a fatal women knew her relationship was ending
Here’s a good one about our Bev.
Bev's brother was an attorney for Chris Albert when he committed a murder and he served 6 months.
Also indicted in child pornography. And 65k accumulated unpaid tax.
I'm gonna have to research this
@@JosephineB63 Vinnie had him on this episode. I was shocked. 😳
The whole family probably has a lot of skeletons in the closet and dirt on each other which is another reason they’re covering for each other.
I heard about the dui where he killed someone. Didn’t know about pornography or back taxes. Doesn’t surprise me
Love Action Jackson
This is disgraceful to not respect John OKeefe outside the courthouse!!!
What happened to people? That they would rally around Karen and not the families of the deceased 🥺
What in the world is taking this jury so damn long?
Reminds me of jury duty with pauly shore.
OBVIOUSLY the McMorons know someone on the jury, or the judge gave out their names so the McMorons could bribe them or threaten them! Its okay though because the FBI has been monitoring all of their phones, calls, and texts with amongst each other, and who they call and text, and who they call and text, and who they call and text. Their cars are all being tracked as well as their GPS location data on their phones, etc...Their homes were probably bugged a long time ago! Dont worry, even if theres a guilty verdict, it wont matter, the Feds are all over this case and waiting their turn. Karen will be free!
Right?! Hos long to reach a verdict?
I don't know. She hit him and confessed.
@@Jack-bc5xgShe never confessed not on tape at scene
I personally am 100% convinced that Michael Proctor planted all the tail light evidence. The video of her leaving John's house after backing into his car clearly shows her tail light was at least 80% intact. Then add to that that not a single piece of tail light evidence was found until an hour and a half after Proctor took position of her car. Proctor and the other officer testify that no one was ever around that tail light in the Sally port, presented video evidence that was later determined to be manipulated intentionally because the timestamp was flipped to cover their tracks. When you flip the video to the correct way it's obvious they were all huddled around that tail light and people going in and out of that back door. If he's capable of planting evidence in this trial it should put into question every piece of evidence he's ever collected or handled!
i think even if she bumped him and he fell hard cuz he was drunk the light pieces were still planted
Yes and the fact that the FBI is doing their own investigation speaks volumes. Why would the FBI get involved in a hit and run?! Then of course the judge wouldn’t allow the jury to know that the defense experts, who independently investigated the case, did so for the FBI.
This 💯
This is a clear set up, i felt it immediately.
@@8Platinum8where you there to be qualified as a witnesses.? We all have our biases, no matter what case it is.human nature...my gut tells me GUILTY!
She is a HORRIBLE JUDGE..she allows for the jurors to leave early..she is rude to Jackson..she criticizes Karen for laughing yet she laughed first at Jackson and brushed him off like what he had to say had no meaning...she is obviously Bias. And wants the jury to select that Karen is Guilty... She needs to retire after this case!!
I think Karen just smiled!
Judge's brother defended Albert for DWI death & got him off‼️- Biased & conflict of interest ‼️They call her "Aunt Bev"
She's intimidated by the police.
That is one of the reasons why they don't want to prosecute law enforcement it will call into question all of their legitimate arrest.
Scumbags
Brian & Colin Albert & Jen Mcabre sat in front of jury for closing arguments to intimidate them, but Action Jackson intimidated them‼️ KARMA
Another out there comment…intimidate who? Who’s them?
Please, Vinnie, I beg you to get higher quality people on your panel. It's so hard to watch these fools. An investigative journalist should be outraged when there's clear evidence of injustice & corruption.
i don’t like what your panel says - too
much common sense. i want to hear lies and things that couldn’t possibly happen.
let’s make
fiction real.
Kevin drives me crazy. He’s only trying to disagree with Rocko.
Agree. Vinnie himself has been terrific tho. Surprised me. ❤
@@acc4465don’t care if I agree with the panel as long as they’re experts with no dog in this fight.
I hate it when they miss what the question actually was and or answer improperly and clearly have no idea the facts of the case irritating
The judge had a slight laugh before trying to call out Karen for it. Hmm.
Yes, she laughed at Yanetti yet calls KR out for laughing. What a hypocrite.
Here's how Karen is guilty:
Karen lied when she said she left him at the bar.
Karen lied when she left VM to John, stating she was at her home.
Karen; at aprox 5 am, said "he's dead".
Karen's car, aprox 5 am, headed towards the crime scene right before she said "he's dead".
Karen repeatedly stated "I hit him I hit him I hit him".
Karen is the only one in the car, while in back seat, that spots his body, in the dark, no street light, camouflaged under snow.
The other two in the car didn't even see him until she ran up to him. (and one of those witnesses DEFINITELY had no connection to the so called "conspiracy").
She was drunk.
Data shows he never entered the house.
Her voicemails and children's testimony indicates she has issues and "all was not well in relationship".
Missing video from John's ring camera during crucial times. (definitely indicating her cover up)
Her "over acting" on the crime scene, classic of guilty people.
DNA on the inside housing of the taillight.
The drink glass fragments found with taillight fragments on his clothing.
I hate you, you pervert voice mail in rage type anger.
24 mph in reverse!!!
And then during trial NEVER a tear, not even remotely close. In fact she laughs.
If you can't see through this OJ style defense then you have a closed mind. And coincidentally; the prosecution was not very good, just like the OJ trial. She might just get away with murder like him.
Hope not.
The turtle boy bullies don't help the jury feel like they can make an informed decision.
I agree wholeheartedly .. so much acts by her showing guilt
Well said
There are some who would not believe law enforcement of a cover up even if they where to confess to crimes or misdeeds or caught on film.
I agree.
If I were a member of the jury in this blatantly corrupt town, I’d be super worried for the police retaliation. They have shown what they are capable of and how they are still suffering no consequences…
right, I'm sure there are juror who are scared.
They know that. That is why they were in court for the closing.
No consequences yet but the FBI is investigating them all. That “other grand jury hearing” the prosecution witnesses were repeatedly asked about giving testimony at was for the FBI. It’s just judge Bev wouldn’t let the jury know that so the defense couldn’t mention the FBI. Also, the independent accident reconstruction experts (who weren’t asked to investigate by the prosecution or defense) had done the investigation for the FBI.
This judge is awful. She's insulting, and unnecessarily rude when she scolded KR. Very telling.
Yeah its personal for her she’s gotta protect her thugs in blue however she can
Judge ... i was tired !!! i would laugh at her as well !!!!
Joe says not sophisticated Dog scratch expert 😂😂 compared to MSP Paul?? 😂😂
I've seen so many experts come out and say the same re them being consistent with dog bite & scratches. The K9 guy on yt also says the same
Too many thugs nowadays holding a badge
Why is it so hard to believe a drunk, angry and vengeful Karen would drop him off, back into him, and leave pissed. You heard her voicemails. Bully defense team coming up with crazy alternatives that a small town with families who grew up together tried to cover up a murder and left him in their own yard?! How stupid would a fellow cop have to be? Don’t follow the crowd, think for yourself. Find her guilty.
Well said
@dewise4768
WHERE is the strong evidence? That's what should be considered, not emotion. Why blunt force injury to a tall man's head and marks on O'Keefe arm, if from a car light???? Where was his lower body damage...O'Keefe's head was near a tail light????? Bull. Take a physics course.
How did he get the dog bites? How did he not have any injuries around the area where the bumper would have hit him? Why didn’t the Albert’s daughter and other party-goers see him laying there?
Don’t believe a word out of Jenn’s mouth
Why is she smiling & laughing all the time? Everyone who is wrongfully accused would be upset & angry.
She is not innocent.
Sir to say that’s not a dog bite simply means you’ve never treated a dog wound. That’s exactly how it looks when a dog attacks not just a surprise nip. Took me years in trauma to realize 90% of dog bites actually look like long contusions. Plus no way he was hit by a car…..again this is literally what I see daily. And no medical expert that actually works in trauma to see actual results, would disagree.
I think they could be dog scratches...but it doesn't change the fact her broken tail light was next to his body. She hit him with her car. She had to have felt the contact. She drove away. He died. The tail light proves it.
@@Lisalisa-zt2pwyou are seriously delusional or didn’t watch the trial at all and I was hit by at car at 10mph I had a broken leg and arm with massive large bruises. 24mph and none of that? He must have been made of steel besides his head and scratched arm I guess
I would just write not guilty with a big red marker across the whole page. Just so there would be no confusion!
And I would write it very clearly so the judge doesn't miss it😂
I like your thinking 😂
😂 your silly
I asked my husband who’s been a firefighter/EMT for over 20 years to look at the photo of John’s arm and I asked him to tell me what it looked like. He said cuts or gouges. I asked if a car could make those wounds. No. Could it be road rash? No. Then he said it looks more like wounds from a knife fight or maybe animal scratches.
The conspiracy theory is ridiculous. It's all they got to point the finger away from her.
Given the evidence-it shouldn’t be taking this long -😢
There’s a lot of evidence to go over and if one person is saying guilty then they have to pursue them.
Yes it’s funny sarcastically judge ! ITS HER LIFE ! THATS BEING PLAYED WITH! She can laugh if she wants too
It’s kind of messed up that Paul’s family is literally staring Karen down, every day of the trial. It’s a bully move, and I’m not here for it
I AGREE 100%
Defense wanted that small Court room, my guess to mock Jhons relatives.
@@ficalli4743Stop with your ridiculous comments!
She needs to get out of Mass asap after this.
This judge is leading the jury
Weren't the Alberts and Nagels so "fearful" of the Turtleboy journalist, as an actual reporter he was banned while they were on the stand. (Despite the video evidence of them attacking 🐢boy and his gf.)
The Alberts have been pointed out as a powerful family presence in the community. For them to be in court, much less staring right at the jury.... Intimidation to anyone who has any personal concerns on that jury.
This judge, local and state LE is out of control. I hope the feds come and open all the doors and windows. Oooo the secrets that are hidden with past cases or "incidents", light is being revealed upon them.
My god. The accident experts for the defense were a 8 or 9 easily.
They were part of the FBI investigation, not hired by the defense. Why do you suppose Lally didn't call them to the stand?
@@JMay- I know that.
70 witnesses are in on the conspiracy? That’s so unreasonable
Justice for all no one is above the law period. Practice what y’all preach (law enforcement) Proctor should get suspended and charged for unlawful doings
The FBI Better hurry up & conclude, cuz this is Crazy!
They wont do anything until AFTER there is a verdict. Its going to be okay regardless of the verdict! The Feds have been monitoring all of their calls, texts, locations, and probably bugged their houses! Alan Jackson WAS a big time prosecutor before he became a defense lawyer, hes worked with the Feds hundreds of times. Be patient!
Who gave this judge her job??
She cracks me up she sounds so annoyed anytime one of the lawyers asks to approach🤣 and she sighs like omg fine🤷🏽♀️🤣 cracks me up in a disapproving kinda way
Wouldn’t have to approach so much if she’d let in one-worded injections so the lawyers know what they’re doing wrong…
She was appointed by the Governor of MA🤷🏻♀️
@@LovetheLed 🤣
@@LovetheLedGov seems disgusted with Mass State Police. Wonder what her opinion of Cannone is. Bev is abhorrent.
The prosecution presented a weak case with a lot of heresay and accusations without real concrete evidence and they had even weaker experts. There is so much reasonable doubt that I could never in good faith send someone to prison. I hope the jury is smart and come back with not guilty.
I dont understand what is taking so long to come back NG? Mountains of reasonable doubt.
it’s a good sign. fast verdict = guilty.
She killed him they are taking their time and big chance a hung jury! You forgot about John O'Keefe!! The defence are big CALIFORNIA Attorneys CELEBRITY attorneys!!
She was in a drunken rage 53 messages screaming profanities BUT it was not.ok for that cop to air his loss and anger over what she did to him with her car!
@kimdebruno - my guess is that they the jury will not agree.
I’m mean that they are having a hard time agreeing with each other.
Because they don’t agree …too many guilty votes!
Your panel members definitely have not been watching the same trial.
Hair could have frozen to the bumper. Guilty
This judge is bias and should have Ben removed from this case period!
The Okeefe family are happy to be misled.
These cops didn't get up one day wearing corruption they have been corrupt for some time.
FBI experts stated she did not hit anyone with her vehicle. How can O'Keefe's possibly think she did this.
I think it’s easier to believe the prosecution because there’s less repercussions for siding with police officers.
C’mon, these guys aren’t scoring it correctly for the most part. I’d NEVER HIRE any of these guys.
Alan Jackson has plenty to appeal on.
Without a doubt ‼️ hands down
The Okeefs are being controlled by the guilty party!
I know it’s so sad eh
That happens a lot. It’s sad
I think they just have a hard time coming to terms that some cops are corrupt since JOK was a cop.
“The lead investigator of this case was attacked by the defense….” SHAME ON YOU!!!! He was exposed for the crude, corrupt cop that he is!!! You heard the text messages!!!!
THOSE PPL should NOT be allowed in that court room PERIOD
The Karen fans "have not known it but they have aligned themselves with Black Lives Matter... " did I hear that right
I know. Wtf was that about???
That was my wtf moment too!! I was thinking I was the only one who heard it since Vinnie ran away from him so fast lol. Clearly he has a problem with ppl holding those of power accountable. I wonder if he knows who he has aligned himself after that statement.
Vinnie I agree with you 100% on the verdict sheet
that was so embarrassing for the judge. cringeeeee!
Karen Read’s lawyer is fantastic. He didn’t back down at all.
I totally disagree with the guy who said those marks on John’s arm aren’t dog bites. They are, a freaking broken car light can’t cut one’s skin that badly
I can NOT believe that the O'Keefe's are not rethinking things as there is NO evidence of her hitting him with SUV.
Chris Watts mother still believes he’s innocent. Doubtful John’s mom comes around.
How do u no she didn't do it where u there 🤔 I wasn't and I just hope justice us done for john and family
@martinaosullivan1622 Scientific facts ..... 1000lbs if force against ANY body part will at the very minimum leave a NASTY bruise.
Well..believe it! No rethinking needed.
If I were on the jury I would be turned off by Jackson’s disregard for the MA legal system
Doesn’t the PHD specialists the Feds hired void all of this?
EXACTLY! Even if nothing else matters…. U can’t denying the fed hired witnesses who say it’s impossible hit by a car Slam Dunk Not Guilty with all the TONS of other stuff that proves she is innocent
And the O'Keefe's inviting the McAlberts to the final testimony...makes me sick 🤢 they are sitting next to the ppl who murdered their son..their brother..their brother in law ..and the McAlberts where there to intimate the jury.. oh . this case makes me so sick there is no justice for John O'Keefe.. No justice!!
Clearly, they don’t share your sentiment. More importantly, they are the victims family And should be afforded whatever comfort they seek.
JUDGE WAS REPRIMANDED , WHO CALLED YOU IN THE CHAMBERS BEV? WE WONDER....
😃
I am curious as well!
Someone got to these jurors. This isn’t even close. Karen is innocent.
the okeefes think otherwise. what about what they think?
@@acc4465 Of course they think she's guilty. They want SOMEONE to pay. IMHO, she is INNOCENT.
I’m with you, Brian Albert and Jennifer McCabe was in court on closing. Intimidation at its best. For sure the cover up is still happening.
@@acc4465They have been influenced by the cops, prosecutors, McCabes and Alberts.
Don't worry, the FBI is going to take this case over. They got all the evidence.
It just stinks. The judge, the prosecutor, the police and anyone that thinks this is right.
I imagine all the ones who do not have Alan Jackson or a Yennetti to fight back. Also, not recognizing that all KR did was respond with disgust to the judge attitude. It IS PUTRID.
Since when is anyone going to get away with showing disrespect towards the judge and not be reprimanded? There’s not a different set of rules for Karen Read.
@@trickortrump3292 Expalin how she disrespected the judge? Lol
@@enyarec Please don’t be dense. “…all KR did was respond with disgust to the judge attitude”. I’m not going to sit her and spoon feed you an explanation on how that is disrespectful. My point stands. Nobody gets away with that in court.
@@trickortrump3292 Wow, Judge Huff n Puff laughed at Yanetti and then admonished KR for laughing. Judge Bias Bev is a hypocrite! Also Judge Aunty Bev does not deserve ANY respect. She deliberately set up this court room to intimate Karen Read and the jurors. This judge is a disgusting criminal!
@trickortrump3292 You won't, but you do sit to answer my comment. She did not disrespect the judge. If anything, she has been stoic in a situation where her civil rights have been violated.
It's unbelievable.
That judge is cranky and arrogant! On the prosecution's side!
😂 finally finding comments that match my thoughts for the last 9 weeks
Exactly
Thats normal
The judge is always on the prosecutions side around here
Guilty clearly. The tbeoken tail light near his body says it all. A dog may have found him after the fact. But the hit n run is what lead to his death. Clearly
His injuries were not caused by being hit by a car. So. Not guilty.
There wasn’t a broken taillight near his body. They didn’t start finding pieces until days later.
The jury form is confusing to me. They need to dumb it down lol
The car hit him . Tail light pieces by his body proves she hit him . There's nothing else in the area she could have hit BUT him. He may have tried to crawl to the house . Then passed out. She is GUILTY. It's plane and simple.
😂😂😂
Absolutely the car hit him. We don’t know the exact interaction but the credible evidence clearly shows thus. It is quite obvious. The defense is simply trying to poke holes in this but people really need to consider the likelihood of their claims in the context of the rest of the evidence. It’s interesting what people will believe….
The CW of MA ME testified that the injuries were NOT Caused or consistent with being hit by a vehicle
Hit and Run case. John probably hit his head against the Electric box or the Fire Hydrant in the area. She is guilty 💯
@@reasonable342What credible evidence? The state’s own medical examiner said the injuries were inconsistent with being struck by an SUV. And the only CREDIBLE science in this whole trial was the accident reconstruction Doctors. Damage was inconsistent with pedestrian strike. Physics doesn’t lie. Not hit. Not guilty.
AJACKSON: ID LIKE AN ANSWER FROM THE COURT! THE JUDGE WAS DUMBFOUNDED. NOT GUILTY!
😂 He doesn’t care how it’s done in MA, he cares that it’s done the right way. She wasn’t expecting him to catch it and bring it to court that fast and furious.
The FEDS were on CW long before Karen Reads case.
Karen Reed needs to show humility and discipline. Especially down the stretch. It’s like a rookie celebrating a win in a game prior to the final whistle. Blank stares would serve her well.
every time a defendant has no expression they get criticized if they actually laugh with their lawyer criticized people forget the death didnt happen yesterday these people IN every case where i seen the defendant have a good relationship with their lawyer they were acquitted.
Stop it! EVERY single person is different and for a monday morning quarterback, YOU, to assume they know how, why, and when someone should be able to control their emotions when blatantly being framed for f'n murder is totally pathetic nonsense!
THAT WOULD STAND OUT AS FAKE AF! If you had a brain you could see that she is authentic!
@@chhansen9813 Ya thats what i meant to say🤷🏽♀️🤣
So smug, smirking & laughing in the court room
Them being there looked like- we did it, we're gonna get away with it, and there's nothing you can do about it
I hope there isn’t jury tampering
obviously the family doesn’t believe the coverup.
why would they when Mcalberts have been stuffing them with kindness and making them feel important when before they could care less for the family. im sure the alberts were literally killing them with kindness
There are some people who would not believe law enforcement of a cover up even if they where to confess to crimes or misdeeds.Even if they where caught on video.
People think everyone involved needs to be involved in the cover up. It only needs to be a few key players to set the ball rolling. If I were the OKeefes I'd be second-guessing the McAlberts given all the information that came out.
@@LaceyLace_ you would need to have 15 all people colluding together - some who don’t know each other.
and they would also have to be able to read other people’s minds to be able to fit the timeline perfectly - they would have to know exactly what karen knew.
they would have to be able to program her car - which i don’t think is even possible.
plus they would have to somehow get Karen to act like she has committed this crime - which she did. coincidence?
she called her dad at 4am.
to say hi?
to say my boyfriend and i are fighting?
you know it is to say ‘dad - i’m scared. i think i hit john - what do i do?’
Haha come on okeefes are smarter than both of us on the matter . Supporting police and thinking she’s guilty do not have to be inconclusive.
41:24 the FBI experts cannot be compared with Trooper Paul😂😂😂
So many SHADY moves by the prosecuters and the judge. This trial is a huge miscarriage of justice. It is obviously a cover-up. I would not even vacation on Massachusetts now. So shady!
I still think she is guilty, not of murder but guilty.
She hates a good lawyer
judge hates jackson hes highly opinoated
I’m glad the residents are out supporting Karen. They need to demand change and demand they clean up the entire system. They all deserve truth, and if they are ever involved in a situation, not to be falsely accused. If their loved one becomes a victim, they deserve to know who is at fault for real. This is outrageous in reality.
Those aren’t residents of Canton necessarily they’re Karen supporters. They’ve come from all over the country.
@@GML_123. wow that is great!
JURORS ARE NOT LAWYERS, LAWYERS MAY UNDERSTAND THE PAPERWORKS EASILY BUT THESE JURORS MAY ONLY BE SEEING THIS FORM ONCE IN A LIFETIME. THIS MAY BE THE FIRST AND LAST THEY WILL ENCOUNTER THIS!
That Judge is so biased. How is she not fired??
She knew where she dropped him off at so she wanted to start there. That should make sense to anyone who is logically thinking .
I would go in the HOUSE & check. She said, and I quote "I watched him walk in to the house, but got mad and left after ten minutes when he wouldn't answer my texts". He was barely in the damn house and she was already texting him? She was controlling. He texted her earlier that day and told her "STOP TEXTING". "I'm sick of all the fighting". IF SHE SAW HIM GO IN THE HOUSE, HOW did she hit him? "I saw him go in the house" changed to "I hit him, I hit him, I hit him". THEN changed to "he was beat to death in that house". She told the other lawyer that she didn't think she hit him that hard.
@@Patricia-kz4rlyep big tell, I hit him I hit him! And the vm msgs ' John I f*cking hate you'
Jury needs to convict her. So obvious.
I truly believe this is a group cover-up amongst the Canton Officers.
DA Morissey is involved too. They are all being investigated by the FBI for their investigations into the Karen Read case and the Sandra Birchmore case. Unfortunately they didn't allow the jurors to know this info. Also those 2 great defense witnesses at the end were hired by the FBI and the jurors were not allowed to know that. Judge Aunty Bev aka Judge Bias Bev aka Judge Huff n Puff is part of the conspiracy, she set the court room up to intimidate Karen Read and the McAlberts in to intimidate the jurors.
If you don’t have money to pay then you can’t comment during live 😔 same goes for Law & Crime page. By the time I am able to comment no one is watching anymore. Sucks
It’s all good. Plenty of people to converse with when the videos drop.
@@markbaz4200yea. Still wish I could join in during live. I watch most of them during live streams but I can’t comment until it’s over.
@@kimmayo6392 The feed moves so fast it’s not even worth trying to comment on some of these livestreams.
She is innocent of MURDER. The prosecution OVERCHARGED her big time. Lally/prosecution was AWFUL. Even if the investigation hadn’t been such a shoddy, incompetent, “s***show,” the prosecution was as bad as the investigation. Jen McCabe was a HORRIBLE witness. She was arrogant, rude, obnoxious and made up things as she went along. (Although, I did miss a lot of what she lied about because I couldn’t get past her need for dental work.) She is obviously a controlling *itch. Again…..HORRIBLE WITNESS for the prosecution. Great witness for the defense.
It's a standard jury form and charges for murder of this kind. 26:45 . I've seen it first hand. It's simple. You may not like the judge or witnesses. But she's guilty. Her broken tail light is at the scene of the crime ,by the body. There's nothing else in the area she could have hit BUT him. That's why there's 3 options for juros to consider. It's simple.yes SHE IS Guilty of hitting him with her car and driving away. She had to have known she hit something with her tail light missing . It's simple