Brother & Sister Murder Trial: Defendants' Sister Describes Mother's Injuries
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- The defendant's sister, Sonya Henry, said that she believed her siblings were trying to care for their mother, but that they were in over their heads and could barely take care of themselves. Siblings Karen Murray, 49, and Michael Murray, 43, are charged with first-degree murder and aggravated neglect of a vulnerable adult in the death of their 68-year-old mother, Sheila Murray.
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Yes, I don't understand why they want money now to be in a chat. Seems like they need money now. Well, everyone can't afford to pay just to be in a chat. I'm on a fixed income, so it's harder for me, plus raising two grandchildren just makes me so mad.
@courttv I think this is a crime that should be looked at in a totally different way. Instead of charging two people who tried to do what they father wanted them to do. I think there should be more programs for or elderly and families. Now this was a man who served his country and who was most likely the hierarchy of the family and when said he want his wife home, then the kids had to do just that. The dept of health and aging and adult services should of intervene. These kids knew nothing about taking care of their mother during her decline in her health. Instead of The state cutting the Home and Community based services, they should have individuals to go to homes with this type of cases.
@@renaford8354 I think you’re right
@@littlebit846right? I cannot comment on some Court Tv trials.
the brother looks like he probably needed to be cared for too
The sister as well
At least he needs glasses. He keeps squinting, whe he looks as something further away.
@@Annsunshine30 i feel bad for them they should not be in prison the other sister knew about this
@Murphyslaw918 you're sick like them. Feel bad for killers?? Gtfoh.
I know.
This girl has eyes. She saw the mess. She saw everything. She did nothing.
I agree! She is just as guilty as her sister and brother. This is so sad.
According to her testimony she only visited every few months and the Mom was always covered. The house was always dirty and smelly. Nothing new. Remember her father made the decisions for the family.
I agree 💯. There is none so blind as she who will not see! 😢 That woman suffered immensely 😢
Your so right , she said they can’t take care of them selves , she didn’t care ,
No she didn't see everything. Leave her alone
In my opinion this Sister was ashamed of her family. She kept a distance for a reason.
Why wouldn’t she be? They all seem crazy and dirty, including mom & dad
I agree
Totally 💯 agree!
I agree, she seems to be the one who got away so to speak. And never really looked back.
She was aware of their limitations, "had reservations which she made known", and then looked the other way. Maybe they had reservations, too.
Went to visit her mom twice before she died and didn’t bother to pull the covers back. Shameful. Her mom suffered in pain and she could’ve helped and did nothing.
Not to mention smelling the feces and urine?? 🤦♀️
Even if she didn't pull the covers, she's could've seen EVERYTHING around her mother & definitely smell the urine & feces s soon as she opened the front door based on all the authorities that entered the place.
She should be standing trial with the other 2 she knew exactly what was going on
100% I did with my mum and my Granny and my Grandpa!
Yes, she knew everything. She just didn’t wanna help. She just is guilty.
The fact that the "defendants" are 43 and 49 years old still living in parents' home says something.
Exactly! I think this whole case is unnecessary.
This case is just sad.
Not really…they were “caring” for their mother…they have mental illness so there are so many layers. Also the older sister didn’t let him know at the mom or care for her mom when she came home
@@Choxchip63don't even try that mental illness crap! This is disgusting what they all let happen!!
I mean, that’s more common than you think. Because they were her caregiver And when somebody needs caregiving, like I understand because I am CNA It’s day and night every day every two hours So you almost have to move in with that person to make sure they get the level of care that they need. On the other hand, the neglect And I suspect in my opinion, abuse, physically, and mentally That this patient had to endure for probably years Is sickening. In addition to that, the sister that testifies up there, Says that she couldn’t afford healthcare or none of them could which is a Blanton lie Because the state steps in and helps That individual pay for the healthcare that they need. In addition to that, they also Will put that person in a nursing home If they cannot afford it, then state pay for that and Social Security and whatever money that you have left. So in my opinion They were probably getting paid by the state to take care of her And the level of laziness the Disregard for human Decency And the physical and mental abuse and neglect this patient had to endure her last days of her life is gross. I don’t feel bad for her. I don’t feel bad for the sister on the stand because if She really cared Her mother She would’ve came and visited and Most likely She never did.
She’s in denial. She knew they weren’t capable of taking care of their mom.
exactly
Unless she says that.... You're just.........!
Absolutely should've been locked up as well 💔
100% she ignored the obvious!
She just didnt want the responsibility either
How could they believe these two could take care of a sick senior . I don’t think they are fit mentally. The sister on the stand seems to be in denial about her brother and sister.
I agree.
She didnt or doesnt care, obviously!!!!
Agree
I agree
I know.
I’m not even going to listen to this. She’s clearly the only fully functioning member of her immediate family and she did nothing. She could have at least called adult services and got help for her siblings and mother. She needs to be charged
She asked the dad to let the mom come stay with her and her family and he said no. Probably didn’t want to lose her SSI.
@@patricialk4996didnt they say he died years ago? 2019 or something? why didnt she take her after that?
I AGREEEEEEE
@@patricialk4996she could've still called somebody.
@@meganyoung.The mom passed before he did
You cannot tell me the other sister did not know something was wrong and that the home didn’t smell weird. She just didn’t want the responsibility of taking care of her mom. Shame on her. She has to take some blame.
She apparently lived in another state. But she would know if the siblings were unable to care for her mother
She offered to bring her mom to where she was. All you people ragging on her should be ashamed. She moved out and up. Should she have stayed there in a rank stank house. She washed her hands and I don’t blame her.
@@basicallyno1722she still live in the same state she wasn’t that far away to step in and do something
You have no evidence of that
She tried to have her mom come live with her and her family, the dad said no.
I think there are deeper issues in the family unit. Seems as if the sister testifying may have washed her hands from the family.
I agree.
This. There’s clearly something going on that we don’t know about.
No wonder. She had moves out, off course you`ll expect the ones that are still living there. To take care of her or to ask for help.
@@Annsunshine30 You shouldn't expect that if you know your siblings aren't mentally all there.
@KimmieSue. You always "expect" reasonable care! This isnt it! Commen sense?
Why would you leave your mother in those conditions?
Has no conscience whatsoever
The mother would NOT want her children prosecuted for trying best they could to take care of her
She claims the father wouldn’t let her take the mother home with her and her husband….but still if that were true, I would’ve called the police 👮🏻♂️ before I left my mom any day in that home!!
That's what's bothering me so much! If her mother was a good mother, how could she let her mother suffer like that?!
@@wandaavantm6343 they didn't even change her....
The one on the stand knew, she didn't care.
Maybe if when she visited she said "mom I'm going to clean you up today and fix your hair I brought you a new gown" she might have known more about her condition.
@@deedeedonald8437She should have been able to smell and see. She just didn’t want no parts of it.
Messed up but what’s criminal about this case ? She died from them not caring ? Seems unfair
@@RcPlayer-tt2vw You really don't know why this is a criminal case? Lets switch things up and say it was a 6 month old baby left in a crib covered in bedsores, its own waste and a broken bone protruding from its leg... and there was nothing doctors could do and the baby passed away. Would you be saying the same thing?
@@summrflowers7253perfectly put.
She knew. She could smell it. She chose to LEAVE her in those conditions and NOT call APS.
So this daughter never thought about 'rolling her sleaves up' & offering help? Never asked if she could help bathe or change her own Mum? This woman is either lying, didnt care or just switched off from the situation. Absolutely accountable for not seeking help.
Absolutely alllllll that, I believe she didn't even give her mother a glass of water... Put some of that blame on her also...
Exactly !
Facts! RIP to her mom
She tried to get Dad to be put in home but the dad couldn’t afford or something that was. His call so ii think the dad said the other kids would take care of their mom. She didn’t have voice in this.She also has 3 kids and home to take care off.
@@barbarajones933 see something say something she could’ve called APS repeatedly. You heard what she said about the DR, how she felt uneasy . Now her siblings got life. They deserve a new trial with attorneys that’s going to defend them, they are owed that!
This daughter is being vague and dishonest. Shame on her shame shame shame on her. She better hope that her children treat her better than that.
Exactly
I think to blame her is unfair….. my parents were the same when I would try to help them they wouldn’t let me. When I would try to help them clean their house they wouldn’t let me. They literally would push me out even tho they was suffering. Because they didn’t want to hear what I had to say…. These situations are more difficult than you would think.
@@SheConquer then you call the authorities because you don’t let defication and urine and foul smell take over. People call authorities when a DOG is being neglected. It’s NO excuse especially when they are elderly.
Exactly, if that doesn't say something about her, her husband is a preacher of a huge extravagant church and she is the first lady, and up here lying under oath on the stand, that says everything there is about her character fake FAKE
@@athenavan2242 is she really??? If so, she definitely gonna lift her eyes up in hell, because the 5th Commandment says Honor thy father and Mother. She doesn’t pass the basic for long days. Eternity will NOT be a given. She’s not honoring God’s WORD/COMMANDMENT
The entire STATE should be on trial for neglecting THOUSANDS of seniors not getting proper treatments and care. There's no way a person living just at poverty level can afford the cost of home health or skilled nursing facilities. I know that I damn sure cannot. Guess who gets left holding the bag for elder family and those needing specialized care....the family does. Sometimes they are not equipped with the knowledge or equipment it takes to provide such care. These 2 "kids" are freaking innocent. You can't charge someone with a murder just for lack of knowledge. They don't look capable of caring for a dog, let alone an elder with serious medical issues.
You are correct, I am not hearing that she had any bruises from beating or lack of food. It's the concern of her foot and the 💩 and piss. Man let them people go, and offer more programs for the elderly. The father is the one who controlled them, they tried as best as they could. It's sad to try and still be charged with a crime you no nothing about.
@renaford8354 my heart aches for these 2!! This other daughter is just as culpable and more so, because she has education and has children, so that would suggest to me that she turned a blind eye and actually DID neglect the entire issue. Just popped in once or twice a YEAR and not even really EXAMINE her mother's condition...come on!
No, you’re wrong. Kids shouldn’t be forced to take care of their parents however they could have sought HELP!!!!! They NEGLECTED HER! How was a bone sticking out? They must’ve dropped her and didn’t report it. Why was her eye stuck shut? Why couldn’t someone wash her face with a warm rag? They couldn’t keep her comfortable at the bare minimum? They tried to hide everything which makes them responsible
@@renaford8354I don’t believe for one second the father was turning down help..I think he was against the mom MOVING away to another state…
@@ESBEAUTII I am saying he want the help within the home, but that was above the two siblings abilities. Her PCP, the local hospital and Healthcare provider should of contacted the department of health aging and adult services or other services to intervene in this situation. Again, I believe that this is not the way to handle this.
She’s making excuses as to why she didn’t help. She just didn’t want to because it’s hard work. She didn’t want their issues to disrupt her life.
She left the home to go to college and moved away and had kids and made a life. She offered to help when she got out of nursing home by bringing her near her and dad said no. We don’t know what their childhoods were like. It could’ve been a toxic environment and that’s why she moved away. Sounds like dad was mainly responsible and was unwilling to do the right thing.
@@Deethehiddengemexactly.
The state is going to lose this 1. It all boils down to affording proper care vs mentally challenged ppl trying to provide care. Sister says they were always dirty & unkempt. How it looked and smelled in the home was normal to them! Only not normal to outsiders that speaks volumes!! They shouldn't even be charged seriously it's sad for all involved. I would never make my autistic siblings care for a dying parent it's all neglect
I think she was embarrassed of them and wanted no parts of it.
@@jasminjones6043who is mentally challenged???
I worked in a nursing home as a nursing assistant. It is not easy to care for anyone who is bedridden and needs 24-hour care, especially for a patient with curvature. It is obvious that their father had the power of Attorney and all her healthcare decision-making is, therefore his responsibility to provide her with the right care suitable for her condition by asking for the appropriate help from the aging community. It is cruel of him to subject his adult children who are not trained to handle such a difficult task even people who are trained for this kind of job some children do not want to see their parent's private bodies. It is unfair on the part of the obstinance father and the cognitive daughter to impose that burden on them.
I agree. It’s a sad set of circumstances. Ultimately it was the Husband/Dads responsibility.
As hard as it is, why did not raise concerns to the relevant authorities. I tend to differ because I come from an African culture. It is difficult to see your parents private parts but you still have to do it to save her life or raise concerns so that you get help.
Right! Why are they on trial?
Its obvious that while the sibblings on trial could work they dont look like people to be given the responsiblity of personal care of an elderly or bedridden patient. The welfare department should have been contacted for assistance. But the father may not have wanted to relinquish power of attorney. He was in charge of her finances. Money always causes neglect when one person has the strings held tight
lpn - thanks what you do - how many times you see patients sent to hospital come back with bed sores? The mother wouldn't want her children prosecuted for trying to take care of her. They tried and now putting these children thru this is beyond humanity and true justice, they had no intention of harm but the opposite
So she knew that the house was a mess, so how did she think they were going to be able to take care of her mom
The sister on the stand KNOWINGLY KNEW her MOM'S conditions and smells in the home!!Isnt that NEGLECT?? Why isnt she being held accountable??? What a heartbreaking disgrace to do this to anyone😢 So very sad ! This woman is just as GUILTY!!
I agree she knew. She was tapped out and didn't care.
@@summrflowers7253Definitely tapped out… there’s so many layers to this case 😢
Exactly she knew these two have some kind of problems. They could not take care of there mother.she did not care
Prob not criminal. She definitely turned the other cheek to the struggles of her family. Simply visiting isn’t helping….she left her family to fend for themselves.
If people, whether your family or not, chooses to live a certain way, who are you to change them?? She wanted different for herself, her children, & husband so she chose to move on and live her life...HER WAY! SHE IS GROWN! It was NOT her responsibility to "Save" her family!
Her siblings were grown as well, they weren't mentally strong enough to move out on their own and probably needed the guidance of their father! What I see is the situation was too much for them to handle with the mother and an elderly father who had health issues of his own. They were a family simply trying to survive on their own in their own home. Ive seen... as im sure we all know atleast 1 person or family of people who live extremely nasty. That one yard on the block thats atrocious, unmowed and trash everywhere in the yard, that one kid in school who smells extremely bad and clothes always dirty! Let's not all sit on our internet throwns and act as if this story is too far fetched to imagine. They didn't have money for health care as the majority of the population don't, father living on a small retirement check and probably their disability checks, and 2 mentally challenged grown adult children to take care of. As far as the mother's ailments, yes, she should've had home health care, at the least, to do home health visits to feed, clean & bathe her and to provide medication. They probably didn't know the state will fund that for a certain amount of hours a week or month to ensure she's getting some care. The father was either too honorable, like most older people are, to allow people into his home or he, himself was too embarrassed to allow someone in the home to see their living conditions. I've worked at a moving company before as a packer and have moved SEVERAL people, military & civilians, who lived in these conditions. It's more common than you think!
Do I believe it's murder, no! Was it neglect, yes. At some point, they should've atleast gotten a home health nurse. The father's insurance and/or Medicaid or Medicare pays for it.
She should've called adult protection
They did come out, they didn’t care. They should be defendants as well.
I think she had more responsibility to her mother than to just call adult protective services. She should’ve first of all seen that through and not stop, but she should’ve gone above and beyond that is her mother! It’s obvious her brother and sister are not capable of taking care of the mom,yet she just left the mother there. She should be charged in my opinion.
@@J-ellOit’s not her job to tend to her mother. Those two were in the house looking at the last day in and day out. She offered to move her and dad refused. She’s now out of it.
@@esk2g you’re right, of course it’s not her job! But I ask you after you move out of the house do you forget you love your mother and want to do what’s best for her? And if there is no love there of responsibility and obligation for being brought onto this earth, you owe her a debt for that, IMO. the fact that she can sit there on the stand and criticize her siblings, when she did not lift a finger to give them help when they surely needed it, that’s just sick! I would not treat a stranger or somebody I disliked that way. Would you?
@@esk2gaccording to her she wanted to care for her mom but who’s to say she isn’t lying bc I believe she is
This did not happen overnight, this woman did nothing to intervene she is just as guilty.
💯 just as guilty , knowing damn well them adults weren’t cleaning their moms ass
@@heavencantwait1218 one phone call could have changed everything.
She offered to help and dad refused. Just bc someone gives birth to you doesn’t require you to take care of them in old age.
@@esk2gand he died in 2019 so why wasn’t she helping her siblings with HER MOTHER?
@@Tammy_26Irwinmy sister lived in another state and didn’t help me and my brother take care of our mother…it happens that way
Just because they fed themselves after the parents’ deaths doesn’t mean they were capable of caring for the mom or the house. I really really really want to know the cognitive abilities of the siblings living at home.
Then why she dead and they alive. Had active social lives. Nit even home alot if the time. The brother said they just left her lay. His words. Not mine
I'm sure their lawyers have gotten them tested for any & all mental illness as a defense
@@cynthiahagerman5718 , they were not her primary care taker….her husband was. The dad died after the mom. Him not being home much would make him more innocent in all this. She had a husband that assumed responsibility for his wife and he failed her. Just because they could help lift and do as they were asked by the dad…doesn’t sound like initiated any other care. Sounds like they all lived in deplorable conditions even when she was healthy. Had the dad died first….she would have been in a nursing home.
@@julesbee6249 Both of them certainly appear to have lower cognitive & intellectual scores.
They all failed this woman
absolutely disgusting 😢
Exactly!
Agree, all 3 of them failed her. Inexcusable that the visiting sister didn't pull back the covers and inspect mom's body. She was the "out of sight out of mind" visitor. I hardly believe that she visited often enough.
When she visited, she didn't lift a hand to chip in; otherwise she would HAVE SEEN FOR HERSELF what lurked underneath the covers.. Seems those 2 were being enabled by their parents. They didn't work, likely had mental issues all along. This woman knew it.
The woman could have stepped up after dad died. She's covering for them.
@@vivianwada6292 but if they had mental issues, how could they take care of their mother?
@@louisefleming3117 I am also totally confused. Daughter on the stand a perfect daughter (!), because away, living her own life. And brother&sister accused of killing mom? Not taking care of mom? And dad was also there, but also died in the meantime???
It's beyond OBVIOUS that the accused are mentally challenged. Was this cognizant sister around at all? Where was she? Why didn't she notice ANYTHING, not a trace during her visit? Or did she just look the other way and turn her back?
Something is a miss BIG TIME here.
Thank you, chilenitaprotrump!
Anyone with eyes can look at her two siblings and see that they’re challenged mentally. She referred to them as immature. She comes across to me as selfish and uncaring. She didn’twant to get her hands dirty; it’s easy for her to shift blame to her siblings. This is a travesty. Just awful.
Yessss!! This was the comment I was looking for. I feel like alot happened to them to as kids or something. Maybe at the hands of the mother idk but their mom still didn’t deserve that. They look mentally unwell. Very much.
@Katlinaza yessss. They probably had NO clue. Seriously, what kind of people are we FORCED to trust to investigate and then some, from law enforcement to mental health therapists and DOCTORS. Where are the doctors? The mental health specialists?? I can't wait for defense and... why isn't this being aired as other high profile cases? These siblings deserve PROPER JUSTICE as I have a hard time prosecuting the mentally ill!!
@@chilenitaprotrumpI was wondering why we’re not seeing it live and only like this. I want to watch it.
@trinity2145 It seems that it hasn't received the attention it deserves. Regardless, this network should 100% televise the entire trial uncensored.
Prosecutors really want their mental health to stay out of it. Freaking pathetic!
Mental health in Tennessee?! Ha
I agree! What a miscarriage of justice to place two obviously mentally challenged individuals in prison for life & allow the mentally healthy child to remain free of charges!
This Tennessee court is a joke! Horrible trial!
Yep and the sister should at least fight to help her siblings
Someone need to fight to get their conviction over turned. I plan to look into it bc I have not once heard them mention their mental illness
@@never4saken165 , and the objection when asked about it was sustained. Pure bs.
What a hands-off daughter. No inquisitivity of mothers' well-being or care.
I sense the relationship was terrible with family
I believe all she did was stuck her head in that room and said hello to her mother and if she did go in the room she wasn't in there for more then 10 damm minutes.
@@rissilient85, How she explained it, her relationship with them wasn't terrible, she should have done more. At least call adult social services since the dad didn't want to listen to her.
If there is a strong unbearable smell of urine that alone is a sign of some kind of neglect! Even the EMT said it was the worse smell ever!
@@jojuanb6832 that’s exactly what she did smh
Why is their mental status being overlooked?
I’m wondering this too. It’s actually really sad
If it was an issue, they would plead insanity
No why are they even charged , not mentally capable taking care sick senior ?
@@Guidette_ They aren't insane. They appear to have an intellectual disabilities.
What mental status ? People keep mentioning that and I haven’t heard anything about them having any mental issues or learning difficulties.
*Can they not see that Michael Murray NEEDS spectacles*
Also......dude really doesn't look altogether there.! Sad situation
It really is.
I saw a photo on an online article where he was SIGNIFICANTLY A BIGGER THAN HE IS NOW
Yeah I heard one of the attorneys mention that he was heavier.
I will look online for images too@@ESBEAUTII
This ‘visiting’ sister wasn’t able to detect the urine smell? The heavy suffocating odors in the home? Didn’t see any sores? I find that hard to believe.
It’s likely that it got worse after her last visit. Let’s not be so judgmental.
@@nadinedockery-green5192being judgmental is what creates justice for victims
40:50 right here is when I knew she knew exactly what was going on!!
The defense really did apoor job challenging this witness blatant lies.
I don't think this was first degree murder. These two well over ill equipped and used to living in very poor conditions. They look like they have Mental health issues. I would vote not guilty. It is sad but people actually live like this and think nothing of it.
Should have asked her if she thought her siblings were mentally challenged?
Excuses
If they had mental issues, there would have been a plea deal.
Not saying it’s right but this happens often and no one gets put on trial. How did this make it to court?
@@BookMama72not really
I can’t listen to her bs lies and excuses anymore. I can’t finish this video.
She is definitely full of bs I can’t listen no more didn’t she cuddle her mum or kiss her I don’t believe she didn’t know she was being abused
Same here
Same here … turning my stomach.
Something is very wrong with this picture. Why were two obviously delayed ppl in charge of their mother’s care? What the heck happened? How would testifying sister not know anything about this?
The sister testifying is a middle child
The father should have definitely been responsible. “In sickness and in health” right?
Let’s not forget Adult Protect Services made home visits as well.
@@MsBenitaButrell Responsible as well, until he could no longer be
No way really? They definitely dropped the ball!@MsBenitaButrell
And her husband the police officer 👀
I bet she would not leave her kids with them to be babysat.
Sister needs to be a defendant not a witness. She knew..
Exactly
She didn't care either.
The sister appears to be lying.
100
New case for me. The son & daughter killed their mom? And older sister knew it, but escaped away?
She is as guilty maybe more so than her siblings. She definitely needs to be charged.
No way she wouldn’t have smelled what was going on.
The sister appears cold and distant. I can tell that this family has a lot hidden issues
There’s a whole lot of layers here. It didn’t seem like it was a loving and friendly home. She got out when she could.
In my opinion, charging these two obviously non-capable, children with murder is a) cruel and b) not a method of helping anyone. I DO believe that their Mother deserved a lot better treatment...dont get me wrong, and this should NEVER be permiteed, but the problem is the system...not the individual situation. Why had nobody ever checked on this poor woman's condition at home? Doctors knew she had 2 strokes and was going to need full care, yet nothing was arranged for her and she was never checked up on.
This entire situation is absolutely heartbreaking and wrong. Trying to punish 2 of these womens children isnt the answer though.
@indiartworks you are correct, the pcp should of recommend that she get long-term care and the income was as low as they are saying should could qualified. I am sure that house was no worth much.
Well said!!! That should have been the opening statements
Because it’s a money thing. Y’all people need to realize docs are a business too. They don’t just care for people out of kindness of their heart. No money, no medical treatment
yes why didnt they( health care provider) have a nurse come to the house and check on her on a consistent basis
@@judybrennan7930 at this point we have to come together as a community and voice our rights as American. We got to come together.
There is no way she didn't smell the urine and feces. How did she not see her mom, but she saw her mom? Ridiculous.
They grew up in poor conditions. Walk a mile in her moccasins. Hard to say what any of us would do.
I know damn well my brother wouldn't be capable of caring for my parents just like she knew
This woman left them to fend for themselves. Then wants to sit there like she’s better. She’s off somewhere living a lie. This is who you are too.
I feel bad for this family. This is a societal problem. Caregiving is extremely difficult but its a million times worse with no money and people with their own cognitive issues.
It is.
Even wild animals have decency to feed and care for each other. Even toddlers can mimic care and show decency. There is not an ounce of compassion or decency between them 😢
It doesn't take money or many brain cells to not live in filth. Or let your mother waller in her own waste for months and months.
What they do ? Just incapable or something malicious?
I’m a nurse in long term care. The conditions this lady was in was so bad and it would haven’t taken weeks/ months to get like that. This is not being in over your head. This is not giving a f$ck.
If the house has always been unkept why would her siblings do anything differently? That's their norm. This case is sad. 😢
Hoarder family. This sibling left skid marks after graduation.
She failed her mother too. Like she act like she better than her siblings. She should be in jail too!!
Big Sis, knew her sibblings were challenged, and did nothing as well..
She only calls them immature.
The state of Tennessee should be ashamed for prosecuting these individuals.
Lies, there’s no way she didn’t know she was being neglected. She didn’t wanna deal with it. Sounds like my family and my older sister who doesn’t wanna deal with our mentally ill mom and brother. This chick is LYING.
@@Princess_Crap_Bag_Phalange agreed!
You can't just put paint on and call it a f****** black fence can you
I don't even think she saw her mama on her birthday
Something’s wrong with the family dynamic. She seems very distant or disconnected from the family.
The sister should be ashamed of herself. You can look at the sister and brother and see that they are special. She went over to the mother house more than one time, but wouldn't remove the blanket off of her. She knew the house was in disarray, but she wouldnt clean it. She didn't care one but for her mom. But I bet she got that insurance policy.
She has a family of her own to take care of. The able bodied adults living in the house should’ve been cleaning it. What planet are you on?
@@nicoleb81You are Right!! The older sister offered to take the mother with her and the dad said no.
I think there was a lot of dysfunction in this family from the start. The two on trial clearly have some kind of cognitive impairment, mom never worked and stayed home with them. Mom was also strict and had few friends. These two literally never left home. From the state that she describes the home and how it had always been that way, it almost sounds like a hoarder situation. The sister said she lives in Chattanooga. That's about 4 hours away, so not that easy with a husband and 3 children to have a hand in the daily care. The father refused their offer to move the mom in with them. I think she quit trying at a certain point to save a piece of her own sanity. Sad case all around and many answers will never know because the father has died and the two on trial seem to have lower mental capacity.
@@soliver198so true.
@@soliver198yes, but if she wanted to she would. if she cared about her mothers well being at all, she could have came to visit once a month or every two months for a few days to a week to check on her mother. She could have given her a proper bath, make sure she’s eaten, check for any injuries or sores. Even help clean a little. IMO she could have done a lot more to make sure her mother did not get in such a horrible state. she knew her siblings would not be capable of taking care of their mother “to the level it should have been”. she should have been one of the ones to make sure of that.
This is so wrong that the State is trying these young adults for murder and negligence .. these 2 siblings don’t seem competent enough to care for others .. why didn’t the state have a nurse come in and check with the mama … the state should be prosecuting really criminals
The state isn’t responsible to take care of everyone. For fuks sake. It’s this mentality that keeps people down. Want the state to do more than get pissed when the state gets involved. And guess who the state is, the fuking tax payer.
Young adults???? They are in their 40’s!!!!!
Young adults??? You're not a young adult when you are almost 50! These comments from people not even paying attention to this trial are annoying.
This is crazy! I don’t care how old they are, it’s difficult caring for an aging bed bound person. She should have been in a nursing home or nurses should have been coming out.
@@surgedeb does it matter they obviously have some mental health issues and if they can’t care for themselves how can they care for another person .. obviously their dad was the one in charge of the situation …
It’s just my opinion not need to get rude
If the Mother was so kind and you were close , why would you allow her to live like that! Your own Mother 😢
And didn’t spend much time with her when she visited.
She wanted to take her mom home to live with herself and her family, the dad said no we’ll take care of her.
Shame on this educated normal sister, she turned her back on this family. Her brother and sister seem to be delayed in some way. If she visited her mom, the smell and her mother's deteriation were surely indicators of her lack of care--she should have done something!!!
There’s probably a good reason the one with some sense got away and never came back.
Mom had to smell horrible 😢
@@Victoria_USA_ yeh I don't think she would of got many
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@@Angel-jh4ok
Not getting enough attention at home, are we...?
💯 percent AGREE! she didn’t wanna deal with it 😡 there is no way she didn’t know when she visited her mom that she was being neglected. She’s lying! I have a similar situation in my family so it makes me extra mad 😡 😡😡
I feel so bad for these defendants. I hope when they are found not guilty, they get the help they need. 💔
Where is your sympathy for the victim? I hope they get life in prison.
@@surgedeb The mother wanted them to take care of her. The mother although she suffered horribly, would not want her adult children and husband to be homeless. She is an angel now and in no more pain. The state failed this family and there are many more like them.
@@surgedeb Of course I have empathy for their mother, but I’m staying on topic and that is what I decided to comment. Her children were put in a terrible position (in many ways). I’ve been a caregiver for both of my parents and it was extremely difficult, but thankfully I had some resources, everyone doesn’t have the same resources but that doesn’t mean they should face criminal charges while trying to grieve their parents. These ppl are broken and it’s sad to watch.
@@5GreenAcres Oh please. Did you know their mother? How do you know what she would want? And how do you know she's an angel? You're not God although you believe you have the same information that He does. 🙄
I hope you end up in the same situation as this poor woman who was neglected. Shame on your evil ass
I don’t think I believe her, she knows much more
There’s a reason why the sister left that home. There’s also a reason why she had a hands-off report with her original family. She knew what was happening, but her own trauma may have prevented her from being to help more than she did.
I agree!
Yes, this. She was likely the only normal one and cop dad and chicken frying mom likely ran the family of origin dysfunction show. Testifying sibling likely was ostracized for being normal, upwardly mobile, successful and kept a clean home of her own. I would have gotten the h*ll out of there, too, and depending how mean they were to me growing up, I would have stayed away too. Now trying to charge her? What an insult. Mom and dad are adults! Mom was fine with slow sibs never individuating…until she wasn’t! Were slow sibs or husband getting paid for caring for mom?
This girl 👀 . She needs to be at that defendant table.
Why is the prosecution hiding the defendants' mental issues? That seems like a fact the jury should know. We all can see it.
WHY ISNT SHE CHARGED?! She was present and knew entirely what was going on PERIOD! Called no one! Why isn’t she charged she is just as guilty!
They shouldn't go to prison they needed help also. This is sad & tragic
This was sad... Those 2 couldn't take care of themselves let alone someone else... Sad, very sad.
What a wicked sister knowing her siblings are not capable. She didn't want her kid's seeing the filth she grew up in. She sent her siblings to jail. What a witch!!!
Very strange family. Very, very strange. Poor woman was left to rot to death. No one cared?! Horrendous.
So you go visit, but you don't look your Mother over???? You don't check to see if she's clean or dirty? The house was unkept, and you didn't think anything could be wrong? Dysfunctional family. This is so sad.....
The house probably stunk, there was probably cat faeces everywhere, rubbish lining hallways, roaches and crap everywhere and amongst it all.her rotting mother. How did she think her mother was going to the bathroom?! Being washed?! Having her hair brushed, having rehab for her stroke, having her limbs moved. She lay there for months on end in her own filth! This woman on the stand makes me sick
Is this a jury trial? Surely the people on the jury will understand that these two people being charged were not capable of taking care of their mother and return and not guilty verdict.🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
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Yes, it is. Jury found both of her children guilty on all counts.
@@deenak79 Dayyyymn.
Much as I detest the way the victim was neglected by the accused, this sister infuriates me! There’s one like her in every family. The have no concern nor care what happens to their family members because they’re “too busy with their lives and families.” She couldn’t be bothered helping care for the woman who’d cared for her! HYPOCRITE!
"I sent Ensure" says it all
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Yep 😢
Listening to the sister, their living conditions have been the same all of their lives, I honestly think they believed that the way they lived was normal. Even when the sister came to visit she wouldn’t stay in the house, she got a room in a hotel…so she knew what the living conditions were. It’s absolutely a sad situation, but there’s no way anyone expected those two to care for their mom, they don’t even look like they can care themselves.
I totally agree this is a mental issue the most stable person is the sister on the stand
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Even the father had health issues, she said that he was on dialysis for his failing kidneys….this entire situation was a mess.
The fact that they shut it down after the question of mental capacity is very telling
You’re 100% correct
Very suspicious
Something is wrong they are all deeply disturbed. Even the sister who appears "normal". There is no way the father, who was a police officer, could allow his wife to go through this. They all sleep in this home, smelling like this?!?!?! Ignoring hygiene and cleanliness is a sign of deep-rooted mental issues. They all needed help. 😭
Gross and disturbing AF. 🤢 🤮
This daughter on stand is just as responsible for the neglect of moms death
If mom goes in a home that means no check
also a lien would be put on the house in order for her to get Medicaid to cover the nursing home and the dad didn't want that
Eeeeeeexactly!!!!!
Whose to say those 2 mentally challenged "kids" weren't getting their own checks...Durh
Exactly !
Daddy liked the check
No one should be held accountable for murder. It's a sad case. They should of called human resources to help. My mom is 91 and can't get around. I help her but I don't know how much longer before I'll need to have someone help me. She doesn't want to move or have anyone else in her house.
So sorry your Mom is declining @brendagroff8478…it is a daughter’s love that compels you to help her and also love to realize that you can’t handle this on your own…prayers for you and your Mom for strength and guidance!…This is a very tragic situation that could have been avoided if the older sister had stepped in,even if behind the scenes,on behalf of her Mother…one phone call and just maybe the Mother would have gotten the proper care that she deserved
@@thrillalova1212 Thank you. In 3 years my dad, my 58 year old brother and my 70 year old husband died. Thank you again.
It’s her right to stay in her home, my grandpa was the same way
Don't let hospice get their gloms on her. I battled with my ignorant brother that my 87 yr old dad had the flu. Nope...put him in hospice and dead in 3 days. Now go back two months...the hospital, nurses, social worker all said dad was non ambulatory, he was unconcious etc. ( I lived an hour and a half away) I spoke with my dad the day before this report to me. I then immediately drove to see him. He was sitting on the edge of his bed. Legs swinging over the edge and he was watching the business of the staff nurses desk area. They had the gal to ask him "what is he staring at?" I walked in his room, told my dad...come on dad lets go for a little walk. He replied...."Oh good, they won't let me walk. They had it rigged so if he got up a buzzer would go off!!!!! I confronted the hospice social worker....she was HORRIBLE. My dad is hard of hearing, they did a cognitive question test on him WITHOUT his hearing aids. My meeting with that social worker was very confrontational (on my part) due to the neglect and lies they are saying ie: he couldn't walk, was unconcious etc. The reason he was in the hospital in the first place was because he got it in his thick skull that he didn't need to go to kidney dialysis on one of the scheduled days and then he got weak and couldn't go the next session. So he ended up hospitalized. He learned his lesson and said....bad move on my part. We had it arranged that staff would go in to assist with bathing etc. Two months later he had diahrea down his leg. He told them he couldn't go to dialysis because he wasn't feeling well. I told my brother to have the hospital treat him for flu (my daughter had it and so did a dear 82 yr old friend of mine) they had it the same time. They all reported explosive diahrea. No, it was easier for my brother to "trust" hospice social worker than to NOT stop dialysis and treat for the flu. Beware anyone who is in their 80's. If you get the flu they would rather euthanize you and morphine you to death. I have been very vocal about this and have encountered many former "hospice" nurses and they all have said...anyone who thinks that it is a "peaceful death" is lying. That there is nothing peaceful about it. Honey, I hope this helps you make some wise decisions for your mom. My dad was cooking for he and his wife and was mobile. His wife ended up in hospital with a broken hip and I didn't find out for two weeks that my dad has been on his own. I would have immediately went over there with a truck and brought his lift chair to my home and got him set up with dialysis in my area. If you get anything from this...IF your mom ends up in extended care somewhere...PLEASE don't just take THEIR word for what condition your mom is in. In this day and age...Trust NO ONE! God Bless.
First of all.... those wounds must have cause that room to smell. That's rotting flesh and fungus.... wayyyy too much to ignore
She said she visited her mom a month prior to the hospitalization so I’m sure this “witness” witnessed the horrific condition that her mom was in
Added in With the smell of poo and urine.... can't even imagine the stench
These children were not capable of taking care of their mother and everybody knew that and didn’t care
The 2 younger siblings seem to have mental issues that were not dealt with when they were much younger. Shame on the parents.
This is such a sad case!! The father was the one in charge and put his children in a predicament that they were not qualified for!!! He had the say in her care. Adult protective services failed this family!! Now the adult children are convicted of 1st degree murder??? Seriously? I’m so sad and mad at the same time. Let those children out and shame on the father, the sister in Chattanooga, as well as the state for failing this family.
I just wonder when she visit. Ed she never offered to feed her mother never offered to say Hey, does mother need changed?
I mean, I would have been pulling the cover back, love and honor you know you have to stand there next to her and smell it. You would think she would say. Less checker if she. Need help terrible situation😢
Just as anyone would
This daughter should be on trial too! Not being present to care for ailing parents is neglect!
You would never know that she is a sister to the two on trial. I was shocked why are they being charged with the Mother's death ??
Neglect of a elderly woman their mother. They were her caregivers. 😢
@@ivaloowilson3524 But so was the father so if he had not passed away 3 months later would he also have been charged ? I have to say they don't look like they are in their 40's even the older Sister says that they are not very mature to take care of them selves or their parents. This whole thing is really sad all the way around
@@southerncaltattooedbiker3643 She is not the oldest, she is the middle child.
The defendants probably needed caregivers themselves! I want to know if their parents got SSD checks for them bc I’m sure they have some issues going on.
@@MsBenitaButrell I agree with you 100% I would have never believed that they are in their 40's they look and act way younger.
This daughter has her witts and should be held accountable, not these troubled siblings! IMO
I agree.
This lady on the stand is guilty of neglect.
She knew the horrible conditions.
Did absolutely nothing.
I bet her husband and kids didn't even know her family or have emotional tithes.
She was ashamed of her family.
Could care less.
How is she guilty of neglect? It’s not her responsibility to do anything. She moved up and out. Her brother and sister LIVED there.
You took the thoughts outta my head. I think she was embarrassed. Stayed away and was living a lie.
Y’all need to STFU, as an adult people have a right to stay away from their families if their toxic stop fu*king blaming her, she was living her life and raising her children!!! May her parents RIP
It’s upsetting that the benefits of a former police officer could not cover the cost of Mrs. Murray’s healthcare. 😢 Many people are probably facing similar challenges. This is a humanitarian issue in our country.
I'm just not 'understanding'? 'WHY' are these two siblings being charged. Just by a glance? I would of NEVER left my mother in their hands/ care. They clearly are not capable of taking care of anyone/ anything. The only ones that needs to be charged are the ones that left the mother in their care. Are you kidding me? I wish I had the money. I would get the defendants the best lawyers and care. My heart goes out to the defendants. Their sister is FULL OF IT!!!!! The sister needs a mental evaluation ASAP! Just SAD
Discusting what they allowed...she knew...all a bunch of liars
This is foolish, these two young adults have a very low intelligence! They can’t be blamed for murder , if anything the college educated daughter should be held more responsible, what a waste of time and money belonging to all the tax payers ,
So the most competent sister just left her two mentally challenged siblings and her father to attempt to take care of their mum, when our society would class such people as these two as needing care themselves. She could have done so much more but just wanted to get on with her own life and chose not to help, or not help sufficiently
Who says they are mentally challenged? If they were, there would be a plea agreement, not a trial.
He doesn't make any sense this daughter would've smelt the odour from months weeks possibly years and she didn't do anything she is lying you can see in her energy she didn't take care of her family knowing that they were simple and they were challenged people without any hygiene understanding caring for the mum she walked away because she couldn't handle it listen to what she says her mum was strict.
When the hospital released her, who signed to be responsible for mom,
I think the dad was insistent on keeping her at home, possibly financial reasons, and she got tired of arguing and went into denial.
She could have visited every weekend and spent the day cleaning the house and at least bathed her mom. Her mother obviously bathed, fed, and cared for her when she was young and unable to do it for herself. It's the circle of life.
@@CaseyRhyneXoXowhy does she need to come in from out of town to do it when those two are right there in the house day in and say out??? That’s ridiculous.
@@esk2gshe could have helped they aren’t the only 2 children of their mother 🤷🏻♀️
@pamper, right the father who is dead and gone is who said no to her getting the help she needed and the kids just did what they could at their mental level.
@@esk2g because it's just as much her natural right as the two with no education. She didn't stay out of the state, she could of used her knowledge and got long term medicaid for her mother. The two that tried didn't no any better than what they tried to do.
Most people cannot afford to put their loved ones in a good care home. It’s sad that we don’t take care of our seniors.
I kinda feel sorry for the defendants. I don't think they know how to take care of themselves much less their ailing mother. They probably relied on the father.
What? She was happy living her life with those two looking after her mum. What did she think was going to be the outcome. I think she knew and didn’t care
She is ABSOLUTELY in the wrong as well! She smelled the house..saw her neglected..how sad for their mom!
This is crazy. My mother died at 68, 3 children. One boy and two girls my mother was stubborn and always said she didn’t want to be a burden on us, but she also didn’t want to be in a nursing home or have home health aides come to the house..but we did whatever she asked and as much as we could to make her comfortable until she couldn’t hang on anymore.. I would give anything to have her back
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My condolences to you. 😢
She's minimising....
All of her answers are very surface-level. Neat and tidy responses.
Yesssss
She s a liar
How could this "sister" not know about her Mother's condition. When did she last talk to her mom? Her father refused help, well why did you not visit more often? Twice in a 2019. Non verbal, this "sister" knew about her Mother. Shame on them ALL.
She knew the conditions her mother was living in, but continued to leave her in the care of her sister & brother that were clearly not looking after her properly! She said it herself, that the house was dirty and smelled like urine! I just want to know, why she didn't call someone from adult protection services and get her some home help?🤔
Anyone notice that Karen keeps nodding her head like she agrees and the son keeps giving the evil eye to the sister on the stand
Yep, Micheal seems like he doesn’t like her one bit