Karen Read Trial: Snow Plow Driver Denies Seeing Body On Lawn
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 มิ.ย. 2024
- Karen Read's defense began its case with snow plow driver Brian Loughran, who said he did not see a body when he drove past the Alberts' home during the blizzard. Prosecutors say Read hit John O'Keefe with her car and left him to die on the lawn.
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i don’t think most people will lie - especially on the stand - but i don’t trust people’s memory at all.
it’s not record and playback although most people think it is.
the truth is all people’s memories change over time. i don’t trust anyone’s memories.
is there footage of this guy plowing in this neighbor this day to get the accurate times?
^ Denial!
American Democracy has a problem.
Artificial Intelligence must be eliminated...now! Today.
HE HAS NO REASON TO LIE...HES NOT PROCTOR
The most sophisticsted and articulate guy is the snow plow driver. Thats what integrity looks like. Bless his soul!
this is what you say is a sophisticated person? ok.
@@acc4465 compared to the previous dirtbags testifying for the CW.....yeah sorry...amazing but!!! true.
He hit him with his plow then let his dog out of the truck to bite John, if you pay close attention to his eye movements you can tell he’s hiding something
More than you will ever be or the dirty prosecution witnesses @@acc4465
@@acc4465 If honesty is part of sophistication then yes he has it in spades.
😅😅😅Probably the only person who DIDN'T PERJURE HIMSELF 😮😮😮
💯 His testimony was SO consistent compared to all others
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Atleast this plow driver didn't change his report even tho Lally try his schneigans to try + confuse him glad he stay true 2 himself one of the honest people testifying rest of this goon squad can't even lie right either
@@gilbertannis6449 ALL CORRUPT 💩💩💩
Or butt dialing
The snow plow driver seems to have more integrity than the people investigating the case !
Yes Lucky is honest but you have to admit Tully is a very low bar to hurdle.
Absolutely 💯
Absolutely, very well said.
Sadly, it’s the truth!
You think he’s dumb cause he plows snow ?
Finally a decent agreeable witness with no agenda
welcome to the beginning of the defense lol
@@syntrexfpv1347 lol. I thought lallygag would never rest.
No vision either
Amen!
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What an amazing human being! Very polite and well spoken!! Wish him
And his family all the best!!! Lally is a jerk
No kidding ! This gentleman makes Proctor look like slime on the bottom of a bucket.
What about how his little nose looks
On Young Jurks there was a lady who said his wife died not long after John O'Keefe. The crowd outside the court supported him and they had green T-shirts with a leaf clover (because he is irish and he is Lucky) and a butterfly (if I remember well) in the memory of his wife.
They are Turtle turd minions
OBJECTION! 🥴
This is a credible witness, well spoken, knows his job and appears to be an honest conscientious man. He did a very good job today.
His testimony does it for me, I was undecided, not guilty. Most credible witnesses so far. Absolutely no reason to lie or shade the truth.
I agree!
He can't see for beans though
@@Shaner373 Have you always been this stupid?
Undecided already means not guilty in a court of law.
I think the jury is waiting for individuals like this, he doesn’t have an agenda, he’s not protecting anyone nor is he pointing fingers at anyone. Unlike many of the other witnesses, his testimony seems impartial, unbiased and solely based on what saw/experienced
16:37
I gotta say, I’m loving this witness! “…God forbid, any animals”. Any person who loves animals this much is definitely a stand up person!
Yes!!!!
Totally
You kidding right
Yes I thought the exact same thing - a gentle man ❤
Absolutely!
Amazing - the only witness who admits to being 'friendly' with the Alberts instead of denying knowing them. Sadly they'd no doubt be the ones to dismiss him because he's not their type or part of their clique and of no use to them. He's worth more than all of them put together.
Yes. Exactly.
Well said !
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Nicely said!
Poor man is probably going to lose his job for going up against the Alberts by telling the truth that lands the Albert’s in the preferable sh1t.
This dude is 100% Canton. He risked everything he has built a connection to since the day he was born by testifying for the Defense. Never back down when you're doing the right thing!!
he is a wonderful decent human being...very credible
What? He’s changed his story 5 times! I don’t blame the poor bloke though as the defence is using him.
a real stand up guy - God bless him!
@@HeartStar-uf2tpwhen ?
What makes him wonderful and decent ?
@@kingsmitty2043 no agenda...true to his conviction despite Paul, Proctor, and bukhenik trying to take him for a ride because they missed him the first time due to botched investigation
Salt of the earth this man
And his job is to salt the earth
@@jomustoe8678🤭
This man is a gem; his precious soul shines through and without question he comes across as kind and credible.
This witness is very credible and well spoken
agree
Bad eyesight
Very well spoken💯
@@Jack-bc5xgwhy? He has glasses on. I have glasses too. And i see exactly the same as my husband.
@@Petra-R He's colorblind. Not even close to bad eye sight. They don't let you drive if you have bad eye sight. People are idiots! 🙄
And this plow was not re-homed
😂
Comment of the day!
Lol, seriously though
My husband plowed snow here in Michigan and I was with him 50% of the time and I can honestly say that the awareness of attention to detail as far as what is indirect line of sight is first and foremost.
There's no light in front of the house they showed that already
I currently live in Detroit so you and I both know as Michiganders we get TONS of snow! Is it possible that it was so much snow that he just might have missed the body ? especially since those truck sit up extremely high it he could over just looked over it??? (Just genuinely curious)
@@elizabeth_820 His truck had had at least 2 different sets of lights, some of which were "mounted up high" on the corners. "It illuminates very well."
Was he looking at where he is plowing or was he looking in everyone's yards
So he is able to look in people's yards AND on the road at the same time? Doubtful to me, especially when it's slippery, snowing and dark.
Lally was trying to make him look bad, and Lucky was fantastic on the stand. He made Lally look like a jerk!
A very serious; humble; honest man. Glad he stayed true to his testimony. ⚖️⚖️. Very credible!
100%
Lally failed to call the witness then tries to attack him and he damn well knows Michael Proctor has a habit of falsifying reports and trying make it seem like the witness testified to sumn diff but yet they didn't call him to the stand...lally is a fking joke 😅😅
Absolutely! Lally looked like a bully. As a juror I’d be so ticked! Good job Lucky, sticking to the facts
Yea but also Jackson makes witness' look stupid & the defense lawyers get bullish too that's their job when they cross they all of them do it from time to time
Very credible witness. The man knows what he did and did not see.
i don’t think he is.
@@acc4465why
I don't get how people suspect random people but not this guy
Did not sway me one bit. Sounds like you've never been outside at night and in the snow.
@@katiemallak7706 crank
Mr Loughran, you are an outstanding human being. THANK YOU for being honest and kind.
I love that he added "God forbid" before he said any animals. This man is a national treasure.
*Oh Lucky...You did a great job today! I applaud your attention to detail and not backing*
*down. We are the ones that are lucky. You are a humble honest man. Thank you sir!*
❤️❤️❤️
@@anastaiber952 *I am so proud of that*
*man. He did NOT give an inch!* 💖💖💖
A display of integrity to another level. 🙏⚖️🙏
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Lucky came across as the most honest, sincere, and likable witness! He didn't know Karen Read but was friendly with the Albert's for years. I believed him 💯.
He stood his ground while Lally tried to trip him up. He knows what he saw and he’s sticking to it. Lucky seems like a genuinely nice man that takes his job seriously ❤
When someone is being honest their story won’t change not even a lawyer can make them slip up, great honest witness
He was nervous but listened very well to the questions and answered them as well as he could without embellishing or fudging. A good memory as well.
I don't think I would have done as well as him on the stand.
If I was on the jury, this is one of the very few witness where I would taken his testimony as gospel.
I loved this witness, and found him very credible. I read some tweets that he has been bullied and harassed in an attempt to get him to not testify. I sincerely hope the good citizens of Canton of more civility and integrity than to do that. But after what we have seen so far in this trial, I don’t dismiss the idea completely.
Sounds like the Canton good ol boys club! A Bunch of lying, cheating jerks!
The Feds will get them. 👏🏼
It's not the good citizens of Canton--it's just the McAlberts and their ilk...
I hope that this man does NOT get harassed! He is doing his best to say what he saw!
That’s very sad and I can’t believe the internet does that to people. He was literally just at work, this can happen to anyone
The only witness who has nothing to gain or lose by telling what he saw and didn’t see
Thank you, sir, for being an honest gentleman.
How refreshing !
An honest person in this case😂
Credible witness, and boy has this man worked hard all his life❤
Had some customers from Boston today and we discussed this case. They offered the BPD and this particular agency have issues. Referencing another case of cover-up regarding a pregnant woman, his mistress, who was killed. The cop was married and the department covered it up?
Sounds like there needs to be a complete overhaul there.
not overhaul, investigated
And the sad thing is you believe all the BS
6/21/24 Absolutely, they cleaned house town over years ago. Top to bottom corrupt, including Chief!
@@lindamateri7298 and the sad thing is, you can’t see the truth even if it smacked you in the face!
@@lindamateri7298And the sad thing is, either you're jen mccabe or completely delusional
Well, well, Mr Lally can speak loud and clear (and aggressive), surprise! How different it is to when he was interviewing "his" witnesses being requested repeatedly by the judge to speak up...hmm 🤔
So obvious!
Shocking! Almost like its cross 😅
I believe Lucky
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When a witness is truthful no lawyer in the world can alter his testimony. This was a win for the defense. 👍👍
He just sounds like such a decent man, honest and true!
Can anyone explain those cuts on his arm? That's not being hit by a car.
This guy is very honest. No agenda
Those cuts really looked like dog bites/attacks. I did an image google search for dog bites on arm and so many look very similar
They look like dog bites.
Are you an expert my sister is a vet she said there's no dog bite or of any animal and those scratches don't add up to an animal
The cuts on his arm could be from shards of glass from the tail light if they went flying could slice and scratch his arm. Moreover, unless they did a DNA of the dog that was at the home, how could they determine if was actually that dog, or any other dog.
They are dog bites. Expert confirmed but anyone that's dealt with dogs extensively, trained dogs or treated bites or been bitten knows.
He was wonderful and wasn't lying for the Albert's! Love him he's so honest!
Brilliant man that has no horse in the race good honest witness watching from Dublin Ireland 🇮🇪
Well Done Mr. Lucky!! Refreshing to have a witness without any lies going on here.
Mr Lucky, move away from Canton. You're entirely too good for them.
I agree Lucky is so refreshingly honest, clear and to the point. Sad that he is an anomaly in this awful trial with so may liars-apparent liars- for the prosecution. It's been shamefully biased against the defendant. Who cares if she's likable-she may be innocent.
6/21/24 Judge Guilt based on evidence not on appearance. Too many holes CW hasn’t proven beyond reasonable doubt, imo anyway! NG
Just shows you, being honest works for you! Love the man!
Honest -hard working witness. No axes to grind with anyone -repectful and definitely HONEST. IMO ... he is a bell ringer with the jury as well.
Good witness, well done!
Very bad witnesses. BAD !
Just proves he can't see.
6/21/24 Snow plow driver, appeared very credible. Didn’t let Lally put words in his mouth or false timeline! No doubt was honest, held his own.
Lally looked like a jerk to the most honest and credible wittness.
He's either not honest or forgetful, his story has changed so much.
@@65cj55oh yeah keep gaslighting yourself.
@@Gratefulfellow Oh, do you need a hug ?
I think it made Proctors report look worse and worse the more Lally went on
@@65cj55 do you need another drink, will you write to Jenn in the Penn??
Very creditable witness!
This is the epitome of a hard working honest gentleman !! Nobody could question his ability to offer honest testimony.
If you're living somewhere where it snows you know not to park in the road just because of the plow trucks. That being said this plow truck driver would definitely notice a car on the road and probably not be very happy about it
This is just a good man.
Ally should be ashamed of himself.
This is an honest hard working American middle class man. The backbone of this nation.
Lally should be embarrassed. He soft balls all these sketchy cops and cantonites and blasts this guy because he is mad he was discovered by the defense. Lally is a b itch
What a wonderful employee this witness is to the water company. It’s refreshing.
This witness has def got me thinking that he could have been killed by somebody in the house. He passes by the house multiple times and doesn't see anything. Now unless the body was just buried under the snow then the Alberts look very guilty.
His phone shows he NEVER went into the house. His DNA was found on the inside of Karen’s tail light. Her car data recorded an “event” with her backing up going 24mph for 65 feet until she stopped after an “impact”. Johns phone never moves after that “event”. Have you been watching the trial. The evidence against Karen is “bullet proof”. The propaganda being spewed by the Defense to be spread by social media is pathetic. Brainwashed a lot of people
It's been reported several times that the body was covered in snow. How could he have seen it?
@@KTrue942it would protrude - not be fully covered
@KTrue942 that makes absolutely zero sense. So the snow disappeared by the time Karen got there enough for her to see him? Common sense and logic doesn't exist with some of you. Unless the temperature drastically went up (sunrise at 2am), your assertion is completely nonsensical.
@KTrue942 UT depends on the snowfall and what time this man drive past ? Karen daw him even covered in snow...you'd notice and man sized "lump" even covered in snow...unless it was your lawn obviously
@10:54
"Any objections, Mr. Lally?"
WTF??!
If he isnt objecting she has to ask/prompt?!
JUDGE = B. I. A. S. A. F. !
The Rules of Evidence require that not bias of the judge
I’ve noticed and have said that several times! So true and pathetic!!
So sad that the O’keefe family may never find out what happened to John because of this botched frame up. The PD should be investigated and held accountable.
Absolutely! Hopefully the FBI steps in
I think, if watched carefully, they'll know who was responsible. Hopefully somebody wii prove it when this sham of a trial is concluded.
They know the truth now
This should’ve been investigated completely by somebody else
DA Morrisey, Officers Proctor, Higgins and Lank are all being investigated by the FBI for their investigation into this case and the Sandra Birchmore case. It's unfortunate that the jurors are not allowed to have knowledge of this.
Ive been plowing streets for 4 decades,I hit a basketball hoop this past winter, same thing.
When plowing you see everything, front, left side right side. He's very credible.
Best to you 🙏
Was the ball near the flag pole?
He has no reason to lie, so of the witnesses so far he's one where I don't think there's an agenda in his testimony.
The body was not in the snow since 2:00 am because the body temp of the deceased was 80 degrees when he got to the hospital soo he must have been placed there after the Plow driver got there I mean come on common sense if the deceased would have been dead when she supposedly hit him he would have been mummified and frozen I mean come on
That's not what the science says. It's 2° in the first hour and then 1° per hour after that until the body reaches ambient temperature. So if he was struck around midnight, at 1:00 a.m. his temperature would be 96°. He would then have approximately 16 hours to reach 80. Don't forget that snow has an insulating effect as well.
@@DrKnowsMorenailed it
@@DrKnowsMore💯
@DrKnowsMore Dependent on what clothes victim was wearing (layers vs. no layers), & wet clothing loses heat 25X faster than dry clothing.
Not to mention, just because someone was injured badly doesn't mean they immediately die. He could of been laying there for hours before succumbing to his injuries.
The only person with integrity and honesty in the town of Canton! Truth will prevail❤
It’s sad that in a trial this size, with this many witnesses, a guy who simply tells the truth is held up as a “hero”. I guess that since many of the other witnesses seem to have alternative motives, hearing from someone who doesn’t is both refreshing and rare.
Lally is pissed because he is not able to get people to acquiesce to his narrative
Denies??? This why I don't watch Court TV any more!! This subtle Narratives! They wouldn't know truth if it were sitting on their face!!! His Testimony was spoken with fact!
Yea I find them to be totally wrong about most things.
They have notoriously bad takes especially that Julie Grant lady. They also give a platform to fringe irrational panelists who give good soundbytes but very uninformed unintentional opinion. It was the same thing during the Depp v Heard trial. They were so Pro Amber and it did not age well. They will have egg on their faces after Karen Read is acquitted.
Please don't with false narrative that's your opinion not fact
@@elizabeth_820 Yes court tv should not do that but, unfortunately they are biased.
@@elizabeth_820Stop covering for the real killers you brain dead moron
The salt of the earth❤.
15:15 “I could see the entire front lawn” “at 2:45am and I could see to the front steps”.
That would/should be the time he was on the lawn if Karen hit him. So, he must have been inside or in the basement at that time.
Or the backyard
Well wishes to this man. Well spoken and very honest man. I’d hire him for any job.
We love you lucky . Thank you for your integrity and strength MA loves you!!😊
What is the point of this court case? Is it to prove Karen guilty or is it to protect the people in the house.
Both
Why has no one brought up that John would’ve had to lose a significant amount of blood from such a big head wound yet there are no pictures in evidence of a significant amount of blood in the grass under him!
Judge gaslighting him about his perfectly audible speech
With all the loose cops and their kin in the house, why wasn't the household members calling JO's phone to see why he was a no show, if he never come into the house.
They did start calling his phone repeatedly
And Mr and Mrs McCabe kept looking out the door you mean to tell me they just quit looking and sat back down I'm sure they kept getting up to check what was going on but will not say Mrs McCabe said she kept seeing the car move up the whole house is lying
Also Karen Read called him 53 times! You don’t hear that?
@margy1884 Yes I did. I've seen the same scenario many times in Family Violence cases. Then they make up and go out, drink, and repeat. Typical of neurotic women drinkers in toxic relationships.
I also ask the question as to why none of them were at the hospital the morning of and why none of them were at his home the next day supporting his family in a time of grief and none of them were there to help his brother shoveling the driveway!?!?
The snow plow driver is telling the TRUTH.
This trial is a circus.
Then you have never seen circus - go see the YSL trial. It's pure circus
I’d donate to a go fund me for this kind man. Honest hard working good human. Just as a thank you to his hard honest work over his life and for having to be in this position. He did a great job.
Lally already got caught lying along with the judge today when he told the Dr. she said she subscribed to the Boston paper for 18 months. She never said that and it only had been 2 days. Then the Judge played stupid and made her answer it. Which she did correctling them both on what she said. Tag team of Tally + Judge is disgusting.
Just a humble, decent employee of the Canton DPW telling it like it is, stand up guy. That's what a public servant should be like. Good on him.
Ah what a perfect witness. Clear, concise, well spoken and honest.
I love Lucky . Good honest man.
LALLY GAG LET THE WITNESS ACTUALLY ANSWER
Yup......Lally ready to surrender!!!
Seems unfair that the bullying and implied threats didn't shut him up. What's Proctor gotta do to stop this?
They need a better sound system. This judge can’t hear very well
She hears what she wants ,Aunty judge Bev needs to be investigated
She was rude to abruptly interrupt the witness at the beginning. There was nothing wrong with the sound…smh
Lally chokes three times on cross with the snow plow driver. How is it that the snow plow/ pizza delivery guy is so much smarter then the guy reconstructing the crime scene?
It appears whoever took Lucky's statement purposely put different times that would fit their narrative!!! In other words, whoever took the snowplow driver's statement knowingly fabricated the times inorder to protect the Albert's....if it was trooper proctor, no doubt of the fabricated times!!! Lally is being very aggressive on the snowplow driver, trying hard to sabotage him! Lally has no respect for the actual TRUTH!!!
He signed his statement
@@elizabeth_820He did not sign his statement!
@@elizabeth_820you are so naive.
Perfect witness. Unimpeachable. Taxpayers of Canton should be very proud of this man's service to his community!
Lally tried so hard though
My husband was also a city snow plower for several years. Also colorblind, but said you are trained to notice anything and everything along your route! Thankful for Lucky - an honest man of integrity.
Yes, we hear you, Lucky!!!!!!!!!
Thank you, Lucky, for your testimony.
This gentleman obliterated Lally eith the Cherokee vs Edge question. Wow 💥🤣
Rudest JUDGE ever
I agree
And biased not to mention croked she s init. She never should have taken this case
I can’t stand this judge!
Eminently credible and the fact that the police wrote it down the way THEY wanted it to be just adds to doubts about all the police and policework in this case. Also hideous was Okeefe's brother and the group near him laughing at the man after he left the stand.
2. Lebanon said on your panel that "The dog must have no bottom jaw". Well he must have no EARS because the expert witness pointed out the " punctate abrasions" on two of the patterns and said TWICE AT LEAST that they indicated the lower teeth of the dog .
WOW. That is DAMMING. This guy's testimony is absolutely crucial. He gave an EXTREMELY good insight to that entire evening of what was going on at that house. The department's recording of "where he was" at "what time" also deviates exponentially. It points MORE towards a cover-up... and I believed every single word this man said.
What is it with this judge. She absolutely supports the Prosecutor.what connection do they have. Must be investigated.
She’s slept with all the force isn’t it so obvious being displayed ??
This is the only man who is telling the truth
He plowed through his testimony 👏
Does anyone know if any police officers were asked WHY the home wasn’t investigated??
Yes I believe they said they didn’t have any reason to believe he went inside the house because of witness statements
There was no probable cause to go in the house. Karen was saying ‘I hit him’ repeatedly.
They were asked. They answered with word salad instead of claiming to be incompetent.
@@HeartStar-uf2tp the defense already shut that down.
@@HeartStar-uf2tpthis was even contradicted by other witnesses who said they heard “I hit him?” “Could I have hit him?” 🤷🏼♀️
People don’t forget turtle boy was jailed because at the beginning of this case he went and had conversations as an investigative reporter of a snowplow guy before the Canton police got to question the snowplow guy turtle boy was harassed and spent time in jail over that!!!!!!!
Wow with this plow driver knowing what type of tail lights of vehicles very observant. Tells me he didn’t see johns body this could be a great news for Karen .
Lally has a problem with talking over people....... 🙄
Infuriating
He loves to hear himself talk. The lack of self awareness and good judgement is just wow. He should find another line of work if he can find any.
Lalley has a lot of problems.
Of course he does his interruptions are to stop the truth from being told and heard. The guy seems a little off his game because he is shaking in his boots with the defenses witnesses! Lol
One of the first witnesses I believe.
Wow! Answer the questions honestly from memory! First witness that sounds credible.
best witness, seems credible and honest!!!
This judge is getting on my nerves. She needs to go.