Dude, all this time reason has had that desser in it!?!?!? I have been dessing manually this whole time! You just saved me so much time thank you man and God bless you in Jesus name. Subbed.
I used to do it manually too! Dude it was grueling. I spent like $30 on this de-ess plugin by selig like 8 years ago and use it on EVERY vocal track. I don’t work for them. But man you just turn a knob up and it’s gone.
Glad others are doing this. I love the built in compressor with the SSL Mixer on Reason. Still don't quite understand threshold, but I notice I get a better sound on my vocals (alt hip-hop) when I'm at least 10:1 on the ratio, though it depends on the song and delivery.
Great vid mate and great vocal as well. I am going to set up that chain for my vocals. Never really crunched the threshold down like that before, with the input up so will try that.
Good video, put Reason 12 and Reason Studios in the description because just the word Reason's wont show up when people search for Reason videos. My suggestion of a video title is "Reason 12 How to Master you Vocals like a Pro | Reason Studios"
Freaking great video. I have a couple basic plug-ins but don't even know how to use it. Your theory behind applying the stock plug ins and associated settings has thought me a lot. Now to go try it. I'm bookmarking the video. Thanks,
Its cool you mentioned the myth buster. People needing this expensive whatever to finally elevate their recordings. Learn with what you have and what you can afford. Its a hundred times better than anything that old school recrds used. And just because your heros had certain gear, dont copy verbatim. They found what worked for them to get their vibe. You need to find the things that resonate with you. Thk you for sharing your insights
YOOOO! I just tried this vocal chain on a mix that I've been working on and OMG! It's pretty damn good!. Thumbs up to you and thank you! (Great song too)...
Yes and the reason is that I want the EQ after the 1176 compression but I also want more compression after the EQ. The built in channel EQ can go before channel inserts or after, you could set it up so it comes before the inserts(compression) but I like doing it how JV does it..
please set your effect to unity so they are the same level as the bypass signal. cant tell if i like the fx or if they sound better because they are louder than bypass
Great vid .. To know the untap power is key in comparison to vst and daws. Reason needs to produce vids like this to stop people from purchasing unneeded outside software.
Maybe I’m doin something wrong. When I drag the Neptune and compressor I don’t see a reaction or any lights picking my vocals up. Do I have to flip the rack and wire it or what could cause this?
This is a great and quite simple explanation on how to get better sounding vocals! Thanks mate! Haven’t used Reason in a looong time since 3!!! Before ya could do any kind of vocals without any other DAWs running at the same time! I’ve only just got reason 12 and discovering what it can do. It’s so full on! But I’ll get my head around it soon enough. What mic do you recommend to get to use for both vocals and instrument recording? I’m just thinking the Rødes large condenser usb mic with shock mount and pop filter with a stand yeah? That way can record anything without too much messing around
Something that's never mentioned, (also thanks, it's a good video) is that the vocal and other instruments fight for space in the mix. An easy way to work on that is with the hpf/lpf on the channel strip. Kick that on for every channel. Then, solo each channel and remove all the excess bottom and top from the guitars, basses, drums, etc. you may Even find that guitars etc. mixed to an almost am radio sounding lack of bottom or top end allows them to sit into the mix better. When the excess bass from the drums, bass, guitar and your voice are removed, it mixes like cake batter. Dave with the top end, not only they but the hpf removes a lot of excess room reverb from bedroom vocals. Yes I might make you a video maybe
I tend to avoid using non-native plugins in most cases as the native tools are excellent in their own right. For example, I only use the native compressor, limiter, EQ and Stereo Imager because their quality is absurdly excellent.
The first one was unfortunately distinctly better to my ears - and I only have stock reason plugins 😔. I think that chain could still be improved though! E.g. Do away with MCLASS compressor, the latest reason allows you to use the master bus compressor as an insert FX, and I generally find that sounds much nicer. Also, for the EQ, an alternative perspective is to remove the bad sounding frequencies or frequencies that have the least useful information, rather than trying to boost in multiple places. Then you can turn the whole track up! The first thing I always try and remove is the bass with a high pass filter (but I didn't see one in this video?).
Get a good mic first then get plug-ins if you are not satisfied with free ones. Trust me I have struggled for years until I get my Telefunken M80 before I was using Rode NT-1A with capsule changed to RK12 one yet it did not sound good enough for me cause of NT-1A's circuit bump on 4 and 5,6 khz which was ugly ear bleeding highs on my voice.When I got the Telefunken M80 everything changed
Reason have enough include Rack Extension to not having the need of external VST and they are plenty of optional Rack Extension you can tweak and use, the only pack i use as VST was the one that Arturia give me with my Audiofuse 8 Pre and there MIDI control keyboard , reason already give me anything i need i buy those Softube Rack Extension for more than 100 euros and they are still in use, new user are lucky to have those for nothing with the new formula Reason+ , i dont need those because im using to buy each upgrade every two years, hope we still have the choice of reason + or reason offline.
Neptune is awful. I didn't realise how bad it was until I learnt more about mixing. You can hear it bouncing between notes sometimes, and I could hear it in your comparison before you started.
To be fair I preferred the first one. But they both sounded fantastic
Yeah… the more expensive chain sounds markedly better to me. But the stock version is certainly decent enough!
I noticed more clarity on the highs on the first video. The second wasn't bad, but not the same
Imma do this with all with all the expensive plugins i bought 😂😂😂
I watch a lot of explainer videos on various topics related to recording, and this is one of the best I've seen. Quick and to the point. Thanks!
Dude, all this time reason has had that desser in it!?!?!? I have been dessing manually this whole time! You just saved me so much time thank you man and God bless you in Jesus name. Subbed.
I used to do it manually too! Dude it was grueling. I spent like $30 on this de-ess plugin by selig like 8 years ago and use it on EVERY vocal track. I don’t work for them. But man you just turn a knob up and it’s gone.
to be fair, manual de-essing sounds better on really sibilant vocalists.
Glad others are doing this. I love the built in compressor with the SSL Mixer on Reason. Still don't quite understand threshold, but I notice I get a better sound on my vocals (alt hip-hop) when I'm at least 10:1 on the ratio, though it depends on the song and delivery.
Thanks man, keep going, Reason is a hidden power
Thanks to this I started using the m class compression
Great vid mate and great vocal as well. I am going to set up that chain for my vocals. Never really crunched the threshold down like that before, with the input up so will try that.
Good video, put Reason 12 and Reason Studios in the description because just the word Reason's wont show up when people search for Reason videos. My suggestion of a video title is "Reason 12 How to Master you Vocals like a Pro | Reason Studios"
Freaking great video. I have a couple basic plug-ins but don't even know how to use it. Your theory behind applying the stock plug ins and associated settings has thought me a lot. Now to go try it. I'm bookmarking the video. Thanks,
Big thanks for your help on this matter.really good to hear positives on reason.it's bloody good value for money.anyway,keep them coming.thanks my man
Thanks, mate! 😊 Very glad this came up in my feed. You sound great btw
Its cool you mentioned the myth buster. People needing this expensive whatever to finally elevate their recordings.
Learn with what you have and what you can afford.
Its a hundred times better than anything that old school recrds used.
And just because your heros had certain gear, dont copy verbatim. They found what worked for them to get their vibe.
You need to find the things that resonate with you.
Thk you for sharing your insights
Great Tip Tommy! The SONG SOUNDS FANTASTIC!!! GREAT LYRICS AND PRODUCTION. THIS IS WHAT'S NEEDED IN TODAY'S MUSIC 🎶
You're a legend mate! Thanks for the kind words 🤠
Nice vid and your music reminds me of James Taylor! 🔥💪🏾💯
YOOOO! I just tried this vocal chain on a mix that I've been working on and OMG! It's pretty damn good!. Thumbs up to you and thank you! (Great song too)...
Great to hear you're putting it to good use Andre!
I cannot get reason to receive a signal from my universal audio arrow interface. I ended up getting pro tools to record vocals..😑
So..I noticed you don’t use the built in EQ that comes on the stems?
Yes and the reason is that I want the EQ after the 1176 compression but I also want more compression after the EQ. The built in channel EQ can go before channel inserts or after, you could set it up so it comes before the inserts(compression) but I like doing it how JV does it..
please set your effect to unity so they are the same level as the bypass signal. cant tell if i like the fx or if they sound better because they are louder than bypass
That does sound great❤👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿💯💯
You ae the KING
An Aussie! Using Reason!!!
I was a bit surprised how much compression you used but it worked.
:-)
Yes, It's a little counterintuitive to what you get taught about using compression but it does work and is the sound of modern records! 🇭🇲
@@_thomaswarburton it is that 🧐
Great vid .. To know the untap power is key in comparison to vst and daws. Reason needs to produce vids like this to stop people from purchasing unneeded outside software.
How do you make the Channel EQ as an insert?
Bro on 1176 the attack knob fully counter clockwise is 800 micro second
Omg I so need help with my sound and recording vocals in reason
Maybe I’m doin something wrong. When I drag the Neptune and compressor I don’t see a reaction or any lights picking my vocals up. Do I have to flip the rack and wire it or what could cause this?
@@dwayne6127 yeah hit tab to flip around to see the wires and make sure it's wired in properly?
Its true you really don't need all the fancy pluggins, I use the akai Force and produce whole albums on it using only what it comes with
Only thing I would add is a bit of noise gate from the channel strip, in case the compression adds some noise between phrases.
Good suggestion. I'm usually so meticulous about cutting out that stuff between phrases that I don't need a gate 🤙
This is a great and quite simple explanation on how to get better sounding vocals! Thanks mate! Haven’t used Reason in a looong time since 3!!! Before ya could do any kind of vocals without any other DAWs running at the same time! I’ve only just got reason 12 and discovering what it can do. It’s so full on! But I’ll get my head around it soon enough. What mic do you recommend to get to use for both vocals and instrument recording? I’m just thinking the Rødes large condenser usb mic with shock mount and pop filter with a stand yeah? That way can record anything without too much messing around
Which version did you mix first?
Awesome
Awesome to me thank you
Something that's never mentioned, (also thanks, it's a good video) is that the vocal and other instruments fight for space in the mix. An easy way to work on that is with the hpf/lpf on the channel strip. Kick that on for every channel.
Then, solo each channel and remove all the excess bottom and top from the guitars, basses, drums, etc. you may Even find that guitars etc. mixed to an almost am radio sounding lack of bottom or top end allows them to sit into the mix better.
When the excess bass from the drums, bass, guitar and your voice are removed, it mixes like cake batter.
Dave with the top end, not only they but the hpf removes a lot of excess room reverb from bedroom vocals.
Yes I might make you a video maybe
I tend to avoid using non-native plugins in most cases as the native tools are excellent in their own right. For example, I only use the native compressor, limiter, EQ and Stereo Imager because their quality is absurdly excellent.
Очень полезная информация! Спасибо!
The first one was unfortunately distinctly better to my ears - and I only have stock reason plugins 😔. I think that chain could still be improved though!
E.g. Do away with MCLASS compressor, the latest reason allows you to use the master bus compressor as an insert FX, and I generally find that sounds much nicer.
Also, for the EQ, an alternative perspective is to remove the bad sounding frequencies or frequencies that have the least useful information, rather than trying to boost in multiple places. Then you can turn the whole track up! The first thing I always try and remove is the bass with a high pass filter (but I didn't see one in this video?).
it seems to me the less you know, the more likely you are to buy plug-ins you don't need
Thanks for saving us money
Get a good mic first then get plug-ins if you are not satisfied with free ones. Trust me I have struggled for years until I get my Telefunken M80 before I was using Rode NT-1A with capsule changed to RK12 one yet it did not sound good enough for me cause of NT-1A's circuit bump on 4 and 5,6 khz which was ugly ear bleeding highs on my voice.When I got the Telefunken M80 everything changed
Reason have enough include Rack Extension to not having the need of external VST and they are plenty of optional Rack Extension you can tweak and use, the only pack i use as VST was the one that Arturia give me with my Audiofuse 8 Pre and there MIDI control keyboard , reason already give me anything i need i buy those Softube Rack Extension for more than 100 euros and they are still in use, new user are lucky to have those for nothing with the new formula Reason+ , i dont need those because im using to buy each upgrade every two years, hope we still have the choice of reason + or reason offline.
hy dear give me your software I AM from PAKISTAN
May I hear you whole track? Please.
It will be released very soon my friend!
Both are nice but the first one sounds more creamy to me which I like.
The plugins one sounded better. It was close but it was noticeable.
The first one sounds better. 👌 The second is not bad though. Maybe it needs a little tweaking but it's close.
I subbed
The difference is huge, what are we talking about here?
The first one sounded more professional to be honest
Интересно. Благодарю. :-)))
well the first one was way better LOL
lol I guess the 1st had stock plugins.. lol Nice one
Actually it was easy to tell the difference. Expensive plugins win. Not that stock Reason was horrible but it was a clear difference
0:28 Not at all... The second one, the Reason plugins was much better. More clarity acorss the board. Thx.
Neptune is awful. I didn't realise how bad it was until I learnt more about mixing. You can hear it bouncing between notes sometimes, and I could hear it in your comparison before you started.
CHAIN
NEPTUNE:PITCH CONTROL
MCLASS COMPRESSOR
CHANNEL EQ INSERT(8k,4.5k,1k)
CHANNEL DYNAMICS COMPRESSION
DEESSER
Too bad they don't offer Auto Pinch
I’m sorry bro but reason sound audio is terrible