If Microsoft develop windows on phones with optimized performance, people can play pc games directly on their phone, and save money! This is incredible, hope one day this will come true
Imagine a gaming phone like the Asus Rog line but with windows ? 😯 Also, with AMD partnership with Samsung to develop a GPU for their smartphones (based on RDNA2 and with Ray-Tracing support), we could even reach a point in the future with simultaneous releases between PC, consoles and smartphones.
This is really impressive. You've tried everything mad what i could do by myself and answered me all questions in one video. But I'll wait and try it after new processors will come out. I think even SD888 isn't capable enough for gaming except for some really old titles.
I really thought that it'll be a clickbait and that's the second video that I've seen on your channel that dropped my jaw to the floor...AMAZING WORK GUYS keep it going!!!
@@robi_0 You'd have to get a compatible phone for this I don't imagine many have the right phone so it would definitely need to be a second device and since most phone with the SnapDragon 845 are 4 years old they are dirt cheap
I think something like the ROG Phone 5 would be perfect for Windows 11 gaming, it doesn't have a notch and it's very powerful with better thermals and accessories for thermals and what not
nah mobile games are far better than you think i mean we already have 2d classics like terraria and stardew and of course we have emulators for everything from ps freaking 2 on down to the atari 2600 considering high end androids are just staright up more powerful than most mid tier gaming pcs and that microsoft is actively trying to bridge between themselves, linux, AND android it really wont be long until we see a full featured steam client for android, too and all the games that come with it. of course you also have the Switch and Steam Deck and the realisation that a high end android from even three years ago has MORE power than both and the future is looking exciting imagine. you pick up your rooted galaxy tab8 ultra, put it in a dock and it fires up windows 11 and you run an android app while opening steam and rimworld. oh wait. i dont have to imagine that anymore now do i. well... there isnt a dock per se just a clunky adapter but hey it works lmao i dont even need an external monitor the tab s8 ultra is BIGGER than most laptops
Im using moonlight to locally playing pc games from my not so powerful laptop... Mostly not intensive game... You dont know how glad i am finding this video considering im playing on my old sd 845 phone even after a year... Thank you
Would be so amazing if Windows actually came out with a mobile windows OS that you can just download and install on any phone... And actually keep the phone functions
There's actually multiple usecases for this. I was explicitly looking for somwthing like this to use an.old android phone and build a vpn router on it. It consumes next to no electricity and even if there is a poweroutage, you don't have to worry about it because it has a battery that will keep the battery alive. You can probably use it as a pi hole too.
Pssst, check out mobile Linux. Disappointingly, it's very unfinished and the number of supported devices is low because mobile manufacturers don't respect your computing freedoms. It's why he has to do this hacky nonsense to get Windows on the phone and why Linux users had to make their own open mobile devices. There's a severe shortage of developers to get mobile Linux to the finish line. Microsoft won't even make W11 handheld edition, they're not going back to mobile.
I'm really interested how good it will be with the AMD graphic in the new Exynos. Can you connect a display to the phone like it works on Android by Samsung?
With a better compatibility with ARM, Microsoft can make a great come back with Windows on Smartphone. They can just start by offering option for dual boot with Android. And if many people are interested, they can release their own line of phones.
Dual boot, with project treble this is not possible, the OS partition is different and restricted from the main partition, unlike desktop, which has the ability to resize the OS partition, Android is not possible. Although we can change mount point to a new partition, it would make file access extremely slow.
they would need drivers from quallcomm and i dont think they will release them... i mean the only reason why this project is alive is because people extracted drivers from quallcomm x microsoft collaboration notebooks with windows on arm and sd845 soc i wish qualcomm released drivers so modders could do the rest.... ;p
They don't need to dual boot since windows 11 already would offer android apps. I think the OS as is, should be good enough for use, just require Microsoft to improve there arm compatibility.
@@myfzal I guess not. SD845 has dedicated tool because Microsoft once had an ARM project to install Win10 to their sd845 testing device (which I guess it's co-developed by Qualcomm). I think the roject presult was a bit failure, so in the end Qualcomm resorted to making custom chip (8cx) which probably have very same base/definition to 855.
bad stuff windows sucks and that only boomers use it now that linux improverd i gave up on windows years ago i remember waiting 30 minutes for the browser to open on windows 10 like 6 years ago and i had a high end pc at that time
Microsoft really missed the opportunity to make Windows Phone a full Windows 8 experience, with desktop app support. Might not have been possible back then, but if they came out with a Windows 11 phone, supporting both Android apps (which Windows 11 does already) and full Windows programs, they'd have a killer enthusiast phone, especially if it could do some competent gaming. Obviously not the latest AAA games, but being able to play Left 4 Dead 2 or maybe even Halo CE (on original graphics) on my phone, natively, would be sick. I'd happily pay flagship prices for a phone like that.
the thing now is Apple can make this at any moment with m1 and threaten the whole market enabling OSX when docked on USB can eat a lot of market share.
@@jean-baptisteleguennec817 that explains their hostile and self-destructive lockdown of all their devices - maybe they're banking on the M1 completely taking over the PC and mobile market
That's really awesome, knowing most of these things are running over ARM to x86 translation layer (that explains CPU bottleneck in most games), this is really impressive
A x86 gaming phone would be better than this hacky solution, AMD and Intel chips have never been more energy efficient than they are today. And even if they can’t make a mobile chip that’s as powerful as an ARM one, it doesn't really matter, because conventional mobile devices are deliberately limited so you can't use that power for anything meaningful. Unless you play games on your phone higher specs are more or less meaningless, and we all know the quality of mobile games. Also, x86 has several advantages that techies who can't see beyond benchmark scores tend to overlook. Linux enthusiasts will provide an x86 device with up to date software forever. I've seen Linux developers working on special ARM devices designed to be freely developed on like a PC complain that ARM requires custom drivers per device and there is limited support. Hardware acceleration requires significantly more work on ARM than on x86.
@suwietch7783 I’m not a programmer, just quoting a company’s explanation for creating an x86 Linux tablet instead of ARM. It’s backed up by another programmer’s complaints. "The main reason for difficulties with OS installation is the boot process and driver support. Unlike x86, the ARM boot process is not standardized. While it can use UEFI boot, it seems like each manufacturer is doing their own thing. To add that, these systems most often use nonmodular SOC designs, with custom drivers not available to most Distro maintainers."
For phones, I think it's pretty useless, HOWEVER, for a Galaxy Tab S7+ for example, this can become revolutionary in some years with a proper SoC. God, please make the new AMD-based Exynos good.
Nitip sandal kakak, If you find out it can running on Exynos or Samsung galaxy tab series it would be great, please write a comment here, all I see only Snap Dragon User :(, what I expect I need to run visual studio code or linux is a enough, proot currently didn't work as expected even though I can run linux arm64
Their videos have been rather meme-ful, for lack of a better way to describe it. Most of the memes just don't have global recognition so basically they have to localise the whole video, not just translating it, and that means the whole A roll has to be scrapped and redone.
I'm honestly surprised why Microsoft hasn't brought (back) Windows to phones, phone running Windows apps could potentially boost sales and revolutionize smartphone usage if done right Edit: for those saying they tried before with Windows Phone, no, not really. It's literally just another smartphone os with Windows skin and minimal to no compatibility with desktop apps. Their real effort in bringing Windows into mobile started with Windows RT for Surface tablets which eventually evolved into Windows on ARM shown in the video which finally has the capability to run and emulate x86 desktop apps. Correct me if I'm wrong.
So I think we just get Microsoft to notice this now. I think if the Windows team gets invloved in this, we could easily get the GPU running with better emulation support.
It already works way better than most would expect. If this just got some more attention. I mean GT630 isn't crazy fast, but it is good for indie games and this is a few years old sd845
The GPU drivers are actuall already well optimized, as there are official windows devices with an snapdragon 845 chip out there. It won't get any better. You need apps that run on arm natively.
Yea don't know about the foldables they have specs from 2018-2019 I would love to see it on a actual phone that has the latest snap dragon 8 gen 1 like the Samsung galaxy s22 ultra it would run it perfectly
Well I get it foldables don't have the latest processor for now the commenter just said he would have loved to have it on a foldable form factor the compact size and a big screen
this has a huge possibility to exploit, the potential is there, I don't know what m$ is waiting for, I think that if it is implemented well it would be a good replacement for Android and iOS, they don't know how comfortable it is It would be to take your "micro PC" wherever you want, whenever: 'V
If Microsoft made this possible instead of making a completely different silly Windows phone OS, Microsoft would have been King in Both PC and Mobile market.
This is actually super awesome if Microsoft allowed/support this to our phone officially. Imagine playing on the go. (and exploding your phone from extreme heat)
@@Tech_Happens since this requires a lot of scary work that could end in bricking the device or something I am too scared to try it as well, maybe a rich TH-camr can try it
Great video man! Only goes to show, how much the gap between desktop and phone os has narrowed. Such power is only possible due to modern technology. Now we expect much more from phones, including full fledged browsing including support for most of web technologies, high quality video playback, support for desktop level security and so much more. The only limiting factor is screen size. Someday, a home setup might just boil down to just a docking station and some additional hardware (external gpu, disk). Of course, not everything should be on the cloud.
What makes you think Android hasn't full video quality, web capabilities, and better Security!!!!!?????????? Are you sure you understand what are you talking about ? ?
@@givdb5513 Is there some sort of dumb satisfaction you think you will get by writing such type of comment? I'm a dumb regular guy, who's fascinated by things that have improved over the years and have heart enough to praise them before everyone. Please be better, and laugh a little.
It’s not usable realistically though. The interface is not designed for a mobile phone. And you already have options for using a phone as a pc via things like Samsung dex
@@thachronic100 but when you think about the gaming side, they definitely need to do something about this. We could easily play the triple a titles from 2010s
@@unfazed_777 again doesn’t make sense from a technical or business perspective. Those games aren’t designed for use on mobile, and they certainly aren’t optimised for mobile use esp if you think about graphics. And no company is going to want to spend money for designing games from a “mobile” interface based on the fact that they were made in the 2010s. Why would a company spend money doing all this when the revenues generated wouldn’t justify it? If you want to play a pc game you play on a pc so you already own the game. You aren’t going to pay extra to pay the same game on a mobile phone when you already own the license through steam for example
people have been asking Microsoft to do it for years, but they won't and have resisted it every time, because it would cut their revenue from third party oems.
This makes me want a new Windows Mobile, but this time Microsoft needs to actively work on it and make developers want to program for it. And also make it compatible with Android apps, since it's actually a Windows 11 feature. But since the Microsoft Store is full of crap, I have no hope on this.
The microsoft store actually has stuff like obs, Adobe epic games and many others that are promised to come soon... The microsoft store is more promising than ever... Developers can take full money without giving a cut to microsoft if they have their own payment systems... So not all hope is lost
I'm thinking installing Linux on my phone but it's just hard to decide because I don't think my processor is that good but I really want to install Linux can people decide for me in a reply
Amazing... Create a clean version of windows 11, with no bloatware, telemetry, everyday annoying automatic updates and add a simcard program that is always on and in idle. You now have a portable computer in the pocket. I mostly use TH-cam, notepads, whatsapp, messenger and emails on my phone. Having a portable computer for me at least is a perfect switch from android to windows.
Pssst, check out mobile Linux. Disappointingly, it's very unfinished and the number of supported devices is low because mobile manufacturers don't respect your computing freedoms. It's why he has to do this hacky nonsense to get Windows on the phone and why Linux users had to make their own open mobile devices. There's a severe shortage of developers to get mobile Linux to the finish line. Microsoft won't even make W11 handheld edition, they're not going back to mobile.
Really good content. Enjoyed this video a lot. I played a lot on my Galaxy S7 with custom roms and stuff and it was always fun to do stuff you usually cannot do on a regular phone.
that is harder that custom room custom rooms have same architecture android and Guess what in your custom rooms that you might flashed you might just trim some features that the OEM room might have Samsung rooms are customizable by default and since android 11 not even root is required new hardware is not even worth the trouble
Same, but of course no, someone needs to write drivers for it, and Apple has to allow booting other OSs on mobile... the only reason this OnePlus 6T phone worked so well if because it already had drivers for it written as it runs on the Snapdragon 845, which is inside some budget windows ARM laptops.
Ok I have lots of questions: 1.1 Is it native forever? Like if you restart it it will stay on windows? 1.2 if it’s restarts all the files from windows are saved or not? 2 what about battery life? 3. Does it use all of the phones ram? 4. Do you loose anything from doing this? 5. Is the performance same as the android version or worst? 6. Can you use emulation? 7. Can I choose witch os can I boot on? If you answer this I will really be pleased bc I’m planning to buy an android tablet to use it as pc and a android It sound stupid but it will be a huge life changing for me bc I’m trying do art work and emulate games
1. if you flash the bootloader to boot then yes or you can flash it on recovery for dualboot 1-2. yes 3.like you would expect on pc 4. warranty 5. same but fills probably less smooth 6. yes 7. theoreticanlly you can do even multi os wit this but the problem is selecting wchich to boot if your phone does not support keyboard at bootup. You can have android and windwos/linux as dualboot Because of your last words, this currently only works on some sd845 smartphones. They are more smartphones that supports linux but sdm845 is probably the most perfomrante chip that has drivers and is able to boot into linux or windows natively
May look like a paradox the fact that Microsoft abandoned Windows OS for mobiles but fans continue to push Windows on various devices. For sure Windows OS wasn't the problem but Microsoft failed to bring applications on their market in particular for mobile devices. So Microsoft switched to Android in order to sell their other software on a very popular platform.
Finally, after 5 years when Random TH-camrs says it's Windows 10, but it's launcher or remote.... Finally THIS youtuber really have a REAL Windows 11! What a genius!
Wtf I always dreamed of this - I even searched for Linux distros running on a smartphone in the last months occasionally. But I never even though that this would even be possible with windows.
I appreciate your work , tho you could have tried something like office usage and external monitor / browsing. Such stuff would make more sense especially with arm supported apps
How to? does my phone have to be booted first? in this video I don't see a "tutorial to make our cellphones into windows", this video only shows reviews from Windows on cellphones
Coming back here...is there a way you can try these tests now on the new Snapdragon 8 gen 2? Would be amazing to see how the new chip handles. But nice work and great video!
Two questions - can you connect the phone with USB-C to HDMI cable to external display and use it as normal PC? Can you switch from Windows to Android?
i just now realized how actually goofy this idea is now that i have an actual pc. you might aswell have a computer because everything will be mind numbing to decode every button into touch screen. theres not much space to fit in. you can barely see what youre doing/
I always hoped Windows Phone will go in that direction - to replace many laptops. Smartphone hardware is way too powerful for its current software so have hoped for years that you would be able to only have smartphone that you will be able to connect to docker which is connected to monitors, keyboard. mouse and power supply and you can use it for laptop in most of the work places and even more for home browsing. Definitely will try to do this to one of my phones. But if you could please just answer can you still have basic phone functions on it (basically mostly calls since there is whatsapp app for windows)?
That's kind of what they were going for with Windows 10 Mobile. Continuum on the Lumia 950 allowed your phone to be used as a PC but it could only run universal apps. Would love to see them revisit the concept again though. I don't think cellular works with this one but there's another project called Lumia WOA Project that backported the cellular stack from Windows Phone to Windows 11.
I love this project! I had a Xiaomi MIX 2S which also had good compatibility of Windows 11 like TOUCH, BLUETOOTH and CELLULAR NETWORK. It has an acceptable experience just like Chromebook and can even run VS CODE and PYCHARM on it! Hope that newer SOCs like Snapdragon 888 or 870 can be supported (of course, it needs Qualcomm to provide drivers lol) so that some tablets can join this interesting project. I have heard that Xiaomi tablet 5 is on the way.
Microsoft has a monumental opportunity here and that is to deprecate laptops and desktops altogether for many users. If you could run Windows on a phone with the windows UI optimized for such screens, with android apps being supported under windows and if the phone could be connected to a monitor (like Samsung does with Dex) and use that for office work, and game streaming, I would totally see many people just buying a phone and never bothering with a laptop or desktop ever again.
They'll not do it just for that reason.. losing OEMs like Dell, MSI, Gigabyte, Lenovo etc.. just to make phone holders happy? I don't think it's in their interest. Companies only think about their profits.
If Microsoft develop windows on phones with optimized performance, people can play pc games directly on their phone, and save money! This is incredible, hope one day this will come true
I can see that happening considering this video was made showing it
Imagine a gaming phone like the Asus Rog line but with windows ? 😯 Also, with AMD partnership with Samsung to develop a GPU for their smartphones (based on RDNA2 and with Ray-Tracing support), we could even reach a point in the future with simultaneous releases between PC, consoles and smartphones.
@@krystoffolta513 yea but its complicate to make it easy access, and currently it has big limitations that you can see in the video
@@eduardo.calistenia yeaaa, sounds like a dream
Microsoft phone make a comeback
This literally takes "computer in your pocket" to a whole new level
But phones are computer in your own pocket already 🤔🤔🤔
PDAs: you know we were a thing.
Eminem been doing this
Hackers: first time?
if window released a phone i bet they would say this haha
This is really impressive. You've tried everything mad what i could do by myself and answered me all questions in one video. But I'll wait and try it after new processors will come out. I think even SD888 isn't capable enough for gaming except for some really old titles.
The win arm distro is only for sd845 I think.
maybe 8gen1 is powerful enough because gpu is as good as M1
@@khunrocky606 its powerful but it will throttle a lot and performance will be similar or little bit better than this
@@mr_raiden8731 slap the fan on it just like in this video 😂
@@khunrocky606 then it will get the work done 😂😂
I really thought that it'll be a clickbait and that's the second video that I've seen on your channel that dropped my jaw to the floor...AMAZING WORK GUYS keep it going!!!
FINALLY A TUTORIAL
NO EMULATORS
NO SIMULATOR
NO LAUNCHER
NO REMOTE DESKTOP
Nativly and functional, this Is perfect
Yes the one im looking for
But this Hurts your phone
@@robi_0 You'd have to get a compatible phone for this I don't imagine many have the right phone so it would definitely need to be a second device and since most phone with the SnapDragon 845 are 4 years old they are dirt cheap
How to do
@@deadtheories4170 Emm,I think Windows on mobile phone without battery optimization may provide a terrible battery life
Why do you guys upload video in Christmas Eve, is this Christmas gift ?👍
maybe
haha
The fact that you achieved this is AWESOME, period point blank!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(I'll be keeping an eye out for your channel.)
I think something like the ROG Phone 5 would be perfect for Windows 11 gaming, it doesn't have a notch and it's very powerful with better thermals and accessories for thermals and what not
Especially since mobile games arent that great so all that hardware is gone to waste
Run warzone?
lol
nah mobile games are far better than you think
i mean we already have 2d classics like terraria and stardew
and of course we have emulators for everything from ps freaking 2 on down to the atari 2600
considering high end androids are just staright up more powerful than most mid tier gaming pcs and that microsoft is actively trying to bridge between themselves, linux, AND android it really wont be long until we see a full featured steam client for android, too and all the games that come with it.
of course you also have the Switch and Steam Deck and the realisation that a high end android from even three years ago has MORE power than both and the future is looking exciting
imagine. you pick up your rooted galaxy tab8 ultra, put it in a dock and it fires up windows 11 and you run an android app while opening steam and rimworld.
oh wait. i dont have to imagine that anymore now do i. well... there isnt a dock per se just a clunky adapter but hey it works lmao
i dont even need an external monitor the tab s8 ultra is BIGGER than most laptops
@@aa-tx7th I agree even though i dont use my phone for gaming
Im using moonlight to locally playing pc games from my not so powerful laptop... Mostly not intensive game... You dont know how glad i am finding this video considering im playing on my old sd 845 phone even after a year... Thank you
Would be so amazing if Windows actually came out with a mobile windows OS that you can just download and install on any phone... And actually keep the phone functions
居然直接重拍而不是旁白
中英文用梗习惯不同，所以应该不太能直接翻译
文化不同,但我还是看出有些素材确实复用了以往的中文版
This is amazing! Please, do it on the most recent smartphone CPUs for comparison
This is amazing. Microsoft should go for this long-long ago.
They already do it and failed in two months.
There's actually multiple usecases for this. I was explicitly looking for somwthing like this to use an.old android phone and build a vpn router on it. It consumes next to no electricity and even if there is a poweroutage, you don't have to worry about it because it has a battery that will keep the battery alive. You can probably use it as a pi hole too.
such a cool vid. subbed! thank you for all the effort :)
East Terminal改了是？
"touch screen works fine really smooth no lag at all"
Phone at that every moment : *lags*
This needs to be revisited with the recent arm windows advancements + I'm sure the open source software side has progressed too
Him: „hard is never enough“
Me: „I’m not dirty mindet“
„I’m not dirty mindet“
„I’m not dirty mindet“
„I’m not dirty mindet“💀
I want my phone to be my PC, I want to dock it for a full desktop experience, but have a phone on the go. I really miss my Lumia 950xl with continuum.
Pssst, check out mobile Linux. Disappointingly, it's very unfinished and the number of supported devices is low because mobile manufacturers don't respect your computing freedoms. It's why he has to do this hacky nonsense to get Windows on the phone and why Linux users had to make their own open mobile devices. There's a severe shortage of developers to get mobile Linux to the finish line. Microsoft won't even make W11 handheld edition, they're not going back to mobile.
amazing video!
That's amazing...thanks for going through all that.
If Ms relaunched their mobile efforts as a unified windows 11 experi nice. They'd crush
I'm really interested how good it will be with the AMD graphic in the new Exynos.
Can you connect a display to the phone like it works on Android by Samsung?
sadly the new amd graphics have been cancelled..
Can’t wait to see the same test with Snapdragon 8 gen 2
This is my first time see u speaking in English and I was like wth 😂, good content tho!
Came for the deets. Subbed for the presentation #Bravogoodsir
Now imagine this with a head mounted display finger tracking and you have a pc on your head
The fact that I'm watching this on my OnePlus 6t too
anyone else remember that one guy from that lego show?
a fucking smart phone run's windows 11 but my 2017 laptop can't
same
Linux is great for PCs Microsoft has (sometimes prematurely) abandoned
With a better compatibility with ARM, Microsoft can make a great come back with Windows on Smartphone.
They can just start by offering option for dual boot with Android. And if many people are interested, they can release their own line of phones.
Dual boot, with project treble this is not possible, the OS partition is different and restricted from the main partition, unlike desktop, which has the ability to resize the OS partition, Android is not possible. Although we can change mount point to a new partition, it would make file access extremely slow.
@@shreyasdas5130 what about android apps compability from the windows install itself?
@@shreyasdas5130 Dual boot should be possible. Since 2015, Microsoft has been owning a patent for dual booting Android and Windows on mobile.
they would need drivers from quallcomm and i dont think they will release them... i mean the only reason why this project is alive is because people extracted drivers from quallcomm x microsoft collaboration notebooks with windows on arm and sd845 soc
i wish qualcomm released drivers so modders could do the rest.... ;p
They don't need to dual boot since windows 11 already would offer android apps. I think the OS as is, should be good enough for use, just require Microsoft to improve there arm compatibility.
Promoting Geekerwan's creations to enthusiasts overall the world by TH-cam, not only by bilibili, is an extraordinary attempt. May you succeed!
is snapdragon 855+ can use Windows 11?
@@myfzal I guess not. SD845 has dedicated tool because Microsoft once had an ARM project to install Win10 to their sd845 testing device (which I guess it's co-developed by Qualcomm).
I think the roject presult was a bit failure, so in the end Qualcomm resorted to making custom chip (8cx) which probably have very same base/definition to 855.
Why is TH-cam only recommending this to me now? Have been waiting for such a channel since Android 4.
😂😂
You've done more for Microsoft than the entire Windows 11 launch event. Excellent work. Can't wait to see more experiments from you guys!!
bad stuff windows sucks and that only boomers use it now that linux improverd i gave up on windows years ago i remember waiting 30 minutes for the browser to open on windows 10 like 6 years ago and i had a high end pc at that time
@@monkeygameplay5455 average linux fan
@@monkeygameplay5455 linux just works
@@Skilital true
@@Gsm236 windows just doesnt work
Microsoft really missed the opportunity to make Windows Phone a full Windows 8 experience, with desktop app support. Might not have been possible back then, but if they came out with a Windows 11 phone, supporting both Android apps (which Windows 11 does already) and full Windows programs, they'd have a killer enthusiast phone, especially if it could do some competent gaming. Obviously not the latest AAA games, but being able to play Left 4 Dead 2 or maybe even Halo CE (on original graphics) on my phone, natively, would be sick. I'd happily pay flagship prices for a phone like that.
the thing now is Apple can make this at any moment with m1 and threaten the whole market enabling OSX when docked on USB can eat a lot of market share.
ah windows addresses graphics different than linux or android that now have moved away by using linux kernel
@@jean-baptisteleguennec817 that explains their hostile and self-destructive lockdown of all their devices - maybe they're banking on the M1 completely taking over the PC and mobile market
Good thing Qualcomm dropp their Snapdragon X Elite chip for Windows on Arm this year then which competes with the m2 @@jean-baptisteleguennec817
What I wanted to know is 'Can it still make phone calls'
I guess so
Probably through third apps
Thru dialer.exe application on windows most probably
You can because dual mode android and windows in two different partition I done on my mi pad 5
That's really awesome, knowing most of these things are running over ARM to x86 translation layer (that explains CPU bottleneck in most games), this is really impressive
You mean x86 to ARM right?
@@BOplaid The phone uses ARM instructions and translates to x86/64
A x86 gaming phone would be better than this hacky solution, AMD and Intel chips have never been more energy efficient than they are today. And even if they can’t make a mobile chip that’s as powerful as an ARM one, it doesn't really matter, because conventional mobile devices are deliberately limited so you can't use that power for anything meaningful. Unless you play games on your phone higher specs are more or less meaningless, and we all know the quality of mobile games. Also, x86 has several advantages that techies who can't see beyond benchmark scores tend to overlook. Linux enthusiasts will provide an x86 device with up to date software forever. I've seen Linux developers working on special ARM devices designed to be freely developed on like a PC complain that ARM requires custom drivers per device and there is limited support. Hardware acceleration requires significantly more work on ARM than on x86.
@suwietch7783 I’m not a programmer, just quoting a company’s explanation for creating an x86 Linux tablet instead of ARM. It’s backed up by another programmer’s complaints. "The main reason for difficulties with OS installation is the boot process and driver support. Unlike x86, the ARM boot process is not standardized. While it can use UEFI boot, it seems like each manufacturer is doing their own thing. To add that, these systems most often use nonmodular SOC designs, with custom drivers not available to most Distro maintainers."
This is brilliant. If only Microsoft would support this stuff officially.
windows is hard to use without mouse
it should be optimized for touch screen first
@@roa4031 ya bro you are right
I just found this channel and I love this guy how have I just found him on TH-cam the algorithm sucks But this channel is amazing
@@roa4031 Certain computers has a touchscreen display, meaning it already happened, just quite rare.
@@roa4031 Laptops have touch screen so they don't need it
For phones, I think it's pretty useless, HOWEVER, for a Galaxy Tab S7+ for example, this can become revolutionary in some years with a proper SoC. God, please make the new AMD-based Exynos good.
Yeah it would be perfect for a high end tablet. It also shows how shit Surface tablets are
Samsung DeX
@@VisionaryTech DeX is good but without Windows App support it’s useless.
Nitip sandal kakak,
If you find out it can running on Exynos or Samsung galaxy tab series it would be great, please write a comment here,
all I see only Snap Dragon User :(, what I expect I need to run visual studio code or linux is a enough,
proot currently didn't work as expected even though I can run linux arm64
Ppl already did at mi pad 5
Surprised that it's re-recorded, not just simply translated from Chinese. great work!
Their videos have been rather meme-ful, for lack of a better way to describe it. Most of the memes just don't have global recognition so basically they have to localise the whole video, not just translating it, and that means the whole A roll has to be scrapped and redone.
@@FlameRat_YehLon new year new meme haha
is ok i can hear chines
Playing games with a tiny phone screen and a keyboard which is about 8 times the size of it was amazing.
I play asphalt using this setup in samsung
There's mini keyboard version with several keys that only be used in game
I play Minecraft with it
@@cumjesus java or bedrock
Controller?? 🙄
I'm honestly surprised why Microsoft hasn't brought (back) Windows to phones, phone running Windows apps could potentially boost sales and revolutionize smartphone usage if done right
Edit: for those saying they tried before with Windows Phone, no, not really. It's literally just another smartphone os with Windows skin and minimal to no compatibility with desktop apps.
Their real effort in bringing Windows into mobile started with Windows RT for Surface tablets which eventually evolved into Windows on ARM shown in the video which finally has the capability to run and emulate x86 desktop apps. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Even samsung leaving LoD (Linux on DeX)
Or full WINE integration, for the best of both
Didn't they do it with Nokia before? And failed hard?
@@poisonskull3832 not really
@@BortaMaga th-cam.com/video/m60m25m3sD8/w-d-xo.html
Yes, they did. My friend also had one.
So I think we just get Microsoft to notice this now. I think if the Windows team gets invloved in this, we could easily get the GPU running with better emulation support.
petition for open source windows on ARM
maybe separate windows version
It already works way better than most would expect. If this just got some more attention. I mean GT630 isn't crazy fast, but it is good for indie games and this is a few years old sd845
The GPU drivers are actuall already well optimized, as there are official windows devices with an snapdragon 845 chip out there.
It won't get any better.
You need apps that run on arm natively.
We need windows phones tbh they werent actually bad
Windows team will
send a cease and desist notifice
Here’s a use for tablets
Pretty cool considering that it's a 845 Snapdragon chip .. would love to see this on a foldable with the latest Snapdragon
Yea don't know about the foldables they have specs from 2018-2019 I would love to see it on a actual phone that has the latest snap dragon 8 gen 1 like the Samsung galaxy s22 ultra it would run it perfectly
What about fold 3
@@adith9327 the samsung z fold 3?
the z fold 3 is not a good phone not even compared to the note 20 ultra
Well I get it foldables don't have the latest processor for now the commenter just said he would have loved to have it on a foldable form factor the compact size and a big screen
Still runs better than my pc 💀
Nvm, i got a new one
this has a huge possibility to exploit, the potential is there, I don't know what m$ is waiting for, I think that if it is implemented well it would be a good replacement for Android and iOS, they don't know how comfortable it is It would be to take your "micro PC" wherever you want, whenever: 'V
"m$" - likely a Linux user with mental problems who post angry comments about disliking Microsoft over simple operating system software
If Microsoft made this possible instead of making a completely different silly Windows phone OS, Microsoft would have been King in Both PC and Mobile market.
Which would be bad. Really bad infact.
The king? Oh hell nah
Nah
Me: Mom i wan't a new pc
Mom: We have pc at home
Pc at home:
This is actually super awesome if Microsoft allowed/support this to our phone officially. Imagine playing on the go. (and exploding your phone from extreme heat)
Hehehe
Samsung is not amused😂
That last point is really strong....never thought of that until I read your post! Excellent point I must say!
Only if Qualcomm made windows drivers for all their snapdragon child
Imagine this on something like an s22 ultra you'd probably get decent performance with adequate cooling
I have a s8 tab ultra that's begging to run windows
@@cjk4 Have you tried it? The S8 ultra screen deserves to run Windows
@@Tech_Happens since this requires a lot of scary work that could end in bricking the device or something I am too scared to try it as well, maybe a rich TH-camr can try it
@@Alright_OK yeah you're right. Samsung Dex is close enough.
one day I'm going to run this on my fold 3
Great video man!
Only goes to show, how much the gap between desktop and phone os has narrowed. Such power is only possible due to modern technology. Now we expect much more from phones, including full fledged browsing including support for most of web technologies, high quality video playback, support for desktop level security and so much more. The only limiting factor is screen size. Someday, a home setup might just boil down to just a docking station and some additional hardware (external gpu, disk). Of course, not everything should be on the cloud.
What makes you think Android hasn't full video quality, web capabilities, and better Security!!!!!??????????
Are you sure you understand what are you talking about ? ?
@@givdb5513 Is there some sort of dumb satisfaction you think you will get by writing such type of comment? I'm a dumb regular guy, who's fascinated by things that have improved over the years and have heart enough to praise them before everyone. Please be better, and laugh a little.
@@givdb5513 he is saying that nowadays android has the same capabilities as that of a pc, but the only difference is the screen size
@@olafthesnowman5580 "now we expect much more from phones" [CAPABILITIES] which he described --> which he is blatantly WRONG!
screen size with a docking station and an E-gpu you have resolved your problems
omg can i play yandere simulator on it!?!?
No
Guys... This is big.
We really need to show this stuff to microsoft. We have to do anything to make this happen. Imagine the possibilities
It’s not usable realistically though. The interface is not designed for a mobile phone. And you already have options for using a phone as a pc via things like Samsung dex
@@thachronic100 but when you think about the gaming side, they definitely need to do something about this. We could easily play the triple a titles from 2010s
@@unfazed_777 again doesn’t make sense from a technical or business perspective. Those games aren’t designed for use on mobile, and they certainly aren’t optimised for mobile use esp if you think about graphics. And no company is going to want to spend money for designing games from a “mobile” interface based on the fact that they were made in the 2010s. Why would a company spend money doing all this when the revenues generated wouldn’t justify it? If you want to play a pc game you play on a pc so you already own the game. You aren’t going to pay extra to pay the same game on a mobile phone when you already own the license through steam for example
They have already tried smartphone though
people have been asking Microsoft to do it for years, but they won't and have resisted it every time, because it would cut their revenue from third party oems.
"Sometimes hard is not enough, we should try something even bigger"
That's what he said
😏
00:00 Intro
00:47 Concept
02:28 Booting Windows
03:39 Benchmarks
04:36 Gaming - crysis 3
07:19 Gaming - CS:GO
08:27 Gaming - Euro Truck Simulator
09:22 CPU Bottleneck
09:41 Gaming - Tomb Raider
10:53 Ray Tracing
11:59 GPU fails on 64 bit apps
12:39 Ending
Time stamps are in description
@@basantatamang2249 not working on android TH-cam ver. 14.21.54
@@thetraveler7779 Well that's a old old version Anyways
Copy & paste 😂
@@IDK_ROHAN stereotype.
Gotta dislike this because it's not in dark mode and the task bar is centered.
Glad to see this channel getting exposure! Awesome video!
Why 8 likes? Let's fix that😘💪
This makes me want a new Windows Mobile, but this time Microsoft needs to actively work on it and make developers want to program for it.
And also make it compatible with Android apps, since it's actually a Windows 11 feature.
But since the Microsoft Store is full of crap, I have no hope on this.
The microsoft store actually has stuff like obs, Adobe epic games and many others that are promised to come soon... The microsoft store is more promising than ever... Developers can take full money without giving a cut to microsoft if they have their own payment systems... So not all hope is lost
at some point in time . windows phone had android support . but for some reason they took that away. I still have that build on my 1020 .
@@sravannotshravan no it's dead
actually, WSA is actually a hyper-V virtual machine is not a feature and is not new you could even before that create an android virtual Environment
Basically sailfish os
At this point I think it’s just ridiculous Microsoft made windows 11 with more of a phone feeling with the start icons and pull out from mobile
They might have some plans for the future.
yeah it's better ms make optional display mode, desktop or tablet
You're italian as i can see... *Forza Napoli*
I'm thinking installing Linux on my phone but it's just hard to decide because I don't think my processor is that good but I really want to install Linux can people decide for me in a reply
Purchase a super cheap laptop or a pc (used refurbished any) use ssd and enjoy.
Now this is some real thing. not a click bait. Thanks dude.
Amazing... Create a clean version of windows 11, with no bloatware, telemetry, everyday annoying automatic updates and add a simcard program that is always on and in idle. You now have a portable computer in the pocket. I mostly use TH-cam, notepads, whatsapp, messenger and emails on my phone. Having a portable computer for me at least is a perfect switch from android to windows.
Pssst, check out mobile Linux. Disappointingly, it's very unfinished and the number of supported devices is low because mobile manufacturers don't respect your computing freedoms. It's why he has to do this hacky nonsense to get Windows on the phone and why Linux users had to make their own open mobile devices. There's a severe shortage of developers to get mobile Linux to the finish line. Microsoft won't even make W11 handheld edition, they're not going back to mobile.
I hope so, and I also hope my phone can play computer games, because I don't have time to fix my damn computer. Because it breaks too easily!😂😂😢
I cant imagine how much efforts you put in making this video .
thank you !!
重拍可太用心了，好评
Really good content. Enjoyed this video a lot. I played a lot on my Galaxy S7 with custom roms and stuff and it was always fun to do stuff you usually cannot do on a regular phone.
that is harder that custom room custom rooms have same architecture android and Guess what in your custom rooms that you might flashed you might just trim some features that the OEM room might have Samsung rooms are customizable by default and since android 11 not even root is required new hardware is not even worth the trouble
Fun fact: instead of dubbing the audio, they re-shoot this entire video (A-roll at least ;)
00:05 changed my decision from dislike to like
Explain?
@@hodayfa000hvirtual machines are trash, and the video told that its not a virtual machine, its native w11, on a smartphone
Someday my phone which is based on A15 platform maybe can run windows 11 on arm, year i'm really expecting it.
@@themichalos2350 of course i know that, it just one of my unrealistic wishes.
Same, but of course no, someone needs to write drivers for it, and Apple has to allow booting other OSs on mobile... the only reason this OnePlus 6T phone worked so well if because it already had drivers for it written as it runs on the Snapdragon 845, which is inside some budget windows ARM laptops.
00:14 when he says : No lags at all 😄
My laptop: Sorry, your PC doesn't support Windows 11
This dude: *RUNS WINDOWS 11 ON A SMART PHONE*
Bots Are Annoying
Bots Aside, I Prefer Using Windows 11 On My Phone With Snapdragon 855.
Haha 😄
Ok I have lots of questions:
1.1 Is it native forever? Like if you restart it it will stay on windows?
1.2 if it’s restarts all the files from windows are saved or not?
2 what about battery life?
3. Does it use all of the phones ram?
4. Do you loose anything from doing this?
5. Is the performance same as the android version or worst?
6. Can you use emulation?
7. Can I choose witch os can I boot on?
If you answer this I will really be pleased bc I’m planning to buy an android tablet to use it as pc and a android
It sound stupid but it will be a huge life changing for me bc I’m trying do art work and emulate games
Ah dual boot, last seen on Android 6 and it was by some Chinese companies
1. if you flash the bootloader to boot then yes or you can flash it on recovery for dualboot
1-2. yes
3.like you would expect on pc
4. warranty
5. same but fills probably less smooth
6. yes
7. theoreticanlly you can do even multi os wit this but the problem is selecting wchich to boot if your phone does not support keyboard at bootup. You can have android and windwos/linux as dualboot
Because of your last words, this currently only works on some sd845 smartphones. They are more smartphones that supports linux but sdm845 is probably the most perfomrante chip that has drivers and is able to boot into linux or windows natively
@@HowToLinux thx mate it was useful. 👍
@@HowToLinux what a legend!
May look like a paradox the fact that Microsoft abandoned Windows OS for mobiles but fans continue to push Windows on various devices. For sure Windows OS wasn't the problem but Microsoft failed to bring applications on their market in particular for mobile devices. So Microsoft switched to Android in order to sell their other software on a very popular platform.
Yeah. You did it ! I wish your channel can be distributed all over the world and your channel can become better and better. Keep going on Geekerwan.
Its already iam from Africa Egypt and love this asian genuis fella
@xbox 123 he is long as dead fam lol 😂
@xbox 123 he is long as dead fam lol 😂
Amazing project,running Windows 11 on a phone is something I didn't expect.
How to put "blue screen of death" on your cell phone 😂
Finally, after 5 years when Random TH-camrs says it's Windows 10, but it's launcher or remote.... Finally THIS youtuber really have a REAL Windows 11!
What a genius!
Wtf I always dreamed of this - I even searched for Linux distros running on a smartphone in the last months occasionally. But I never even though that this would even be possible with windows.
Quality stuff. Never knew it could actually run on an Android smartphone!
Can you dual boot with android ?
I'm wondering that
Really spent a lot of time and done a challenging task !!!
This is a breakthrough
Kudos to the team
U did that?
And using windows on phone?
Mine isnt a snapdragon 😭😭 and i dont wanna brick my phone
0:28 hehe! Watching on my OnePlus 6T!
I would be interested if camera, microphone and other work or not. An Android tablet with Windows could be a good laptop substitute for basic tasks
interesting result, somehow better than i expected. Would be fun to see the improvement with current chips like SD 8 Gen 2 and 7+ Gen 2!
Yes he should make a video with newer flagship processor
@@samiulx19yeah that's not possible. Windows doesn't have drivers for the newer chips. Also snapdragon elite x is here.
I appreciate your work , tho you could have tried something like office usage and external monitor / browsing. Such stuff would make more sense especially with arm supported apps
How to? does my phone have to be booted first? in this video I don't see a "tutorial to make our cellphones into windows", this video only shows reviews from Windows on cellphones
Coming back here...is there a way you can try these tests now on the new Snapdragon 8 gen 2? Would be amazing to see how the new chip handles. But nice work and great video!
可以啊云飞，频道做大开始面向国际了。
This would've been amazing on a Samsung Tab S7 plus, I wonder if it'll still have pen support and if the native keyboard will work
Touch screen support since windows 8 so why would pen not work on windows 11 :)
This youtuber deservers and must get more likes and subscribers for his amazing contents, I really loved that video.
Two questions - can you connect the phone with USB-C to HDMI cable to external display and use it as normal PC? Can you switch from Windows to Android?
Looking forward for the answer, I think if normal method works, why not if win11 is installed on it
Doubt that
Lol I could try cuz I got usb c to DisplayPort cable for my Mac but problem is iPhones don’t have usb c
No, the usb c port of the 6T is just usb 2.0, it doesn't have video-out.
Source: I have a 6T
As for the second question I don't know, I'm sorry
He can probably use AMD sync, or steam link to connect wirelessly to Android TV.
This was fascinating. The CS:GO and Eurotruck Simulator setups were ridiculous and that made it even better!
i just now realized how actually goofy this idea is now that i have an actual pc. you might aswell have a computer because everything will be mind numbing to decode every button into touch screen. theres not much space to fit in. you can barely see what youre doing/
I always hoped Windows Phone will go in that direction - to replace many laptops.
Smartphone hardware is way too powerful for its current software so have hoped for years that you would be able to only have smartphone that you will be able to connect to docker which is connected to monitors, keyboard. mouse and power supply and you can use it for laptop in most of the work places and even more for home browsing.
Definitely will try to do this to one of my phones.
But if you could please just answer can you still have basic phone functions on it (basically mostly calls since there is whatsapp app for windows)?
That's kind of what they were going for with Windows 10 Mobile. Continuum on the Lumia 950 allowed your phone to be used as a PC but it could only run universal apps. Would love to see them revisit the concept again though.
I don't think cellular works with this one but there's another project called Lumia WOA Project that backported the cellular stack from Windows Phone to Windows 11.
I love this project! I had a Xiaomi MIX 2S which also had good compatibility of Windows 11 like TOUCH, BLUETOOTH and CELLULAR NETWORK. It has an acceptable experience just like Chromebook and can even run VS CODE and PYCHARM on it!
Hope that newer SOCs like Snapdragon 888 or 870 can be supported (of course, it needs Qualcomm to provide drivers lol) so that some tablets can join this interesting project. I have heard that Xiaomi tablet 5 is on the way.
i was about to ask the same 😂!
snapdragons 888 have almost 3x time the power of 845, it could be Truely awesome to run some good old aaa titles 😍😍
Do you mean to say that the Xiaomi Pad 5 might run Windows 11 next? That would be crazy awesome, actually.
does it work for the Samsung Galaxy tab s7+ WiFi model? the first thing I'd do is download Rocket League and NEVER PUT THE TABLET DOWN AGAIN
How's the battery life?
Will this work on Xiaomi Pad 6?
I wish Microsoft can release a smartphone that runs windows os and Android apps.
Microsoft has a monumental opportunity here and that is to deprecate laptops and desktops altogether for many users. If you could run Windows on a phone with the windows UI optimized for such screens, with android apps being supported under windows and if the phone could be connected to a monitor (like Samsung does with Dex) and use that for office work, and game streaming, I would totally see many people just buying a phone and never bothering with a laptop or desktop ever again.
ah no dex is just an launcher adapted for externa screens noting special
Why they won't.
They'll not do it just for that reason.. losing OEMs like Dell, MSI, Gigabyte, Lenovo etc.. just to make phone holders happy? I don't think it's in their interest.
Companies only think about their profits.
I'm really curious about 2D games. Wish you'd have tried things like Terraria, Spelunky, Touhou, brawlhalla or Celeste
interesting but that would be pointless since the game above can be played with android anyways.