Punk was basically a mutation of glam. When glam fizzled out in ‘75, punk rose from the ashes. The Dolls looked more glam than most glam bands did, but they were dyed-in-the-wool punks, a few years ahead of the game.
Kane's girlfriend had recently stabbed him the wrist, so he couldn't play. he was miming it while their roadie played the bass line. If that ain't punk, I don't know what is :) @@Mankind_-
@@matthewjdouglas6471 I had to do some digging, but it would appear that you’re right, at least in the instance of the Dolls’ appearance on OGWT. The only bit of their performance that was live was the vocals. It was shortly afterwards that OGWT switched their format to being 100% live performances. It was late ‘73 when they made the switch, so the Dolls just barely missed it. I stand corrected.
This is such a complete bullshit comment. The Rolling Stones were mimicking, to racist levels of exaggeration, the Black bluesmen from which they stole their sound in the mid-60s. So it's only fair that they spread their style across a whole range of musicians in the next generation. But don't you dare pretend that the Rolling Stones popped out Zeus' head with no influences of their own.
@kelvinwebber90 ok little kid. When you grow up and realize that just because someone has a drug issue doesn't take away the fact of their talent. If you knew anything you would know that there is a lot more to people than your shallow way of thinking. Grow up Kid.
@@danielvillareal2569 This band influenced *so many* '70s, '80s, and '90 rockers, from glam rock to punk and indie rock, and more, continuing on to today. The first NYD album was released in '73, the year I was born, and it's one of my all-time favorites.
"Personality Crisis" and New York Dolls...wow! That song and their self-titled debut album swept me away when I was a kid! I not only discovered New York Dolls, but I also found Iggy & The Stooges and MC5. Then a few years later Ramones entered my life, with Sex Pistols, The Clash, Dead Boys, The Dictators, Buzzcocks, The Heartbreakers, Blondie, Generation X, Television, Magazine, Patti Smith, Talking Heads, Richard Hell & The Voidoids following. The 70s...what a supreme era for gritty and cutting-edge rock 'n roll...
Problem was that They didn't last. Look at Dave as Buster singing Hot Hot Hot, or His infrequent appearing on The Tonight Show, as He lived down the street from the studio. No, The New York Dolls, in any shape, from or fashion, will ever appear again, as They came a bit before their time. Best of luck to Dave, as I think he's the only one left.
@@matthewtaylor7355Are hardcore fans supposed to have a certain look? Like superheroes or something? This was the early seventies. What were you expecting?
I saw The Dolls in 1973 at the Marion County Ohio Fairgrounds of all places. I was with a couple of friends. The Dolls were fabulous. This video reminds me of how fabulous they were.
I was especially bummed when Syl passed a few years ago. I don’t know why that one hit me harder than the others, but it did. Maybe it was because my old band from the 90’s got to open for him and I learned firsthand just what a great human being he was at a personal level, or maybe it was because he was the beating heart of the Dolls, or most likely it was a combination of those things… but when he died it really hit me hard for some reason.
Have you notice there's a second bass player playing right behind Kane? Actually that session musician in the dark is the one who is playing the bass live in here, Kane alcohol addiction was so severe by then that he could't play as he used to.
@@KittyGrizGriz, yes indeed. During early '70s, Todd also produced Sparks debut LP. Grand Funk's "We're An American Band." That was his "first big pay day check," as a producer. Todd's been quite an influence in my musical world for many years. Cheers.
I thought it was because his psycho ex tried to saw off his thumb so he couldn’t go on tour? Same psycho ex that later got with Dee Dee Ramone and stabbed him in the ass. Connie. She seemed like a real piece of work.
ROCK AND ROLL! THANKS! Ferocious! Man, love seeing Jerry Nolan bash away and rock out, that guy was a real rock & roll drummer, great pocket. 90% of the punk bands that came in their wake should have had such a pocket. All the whole subsequent style of English punk singing goes right to Johansen (Lydon, Strummer, et al). guess it sounded like a good idea at the time! 🤣
I'm a 65 year old MAGA Republican and was listening to the NY Dolls when I was 16 years old. Your such a little brainwashed sheep. You dont deserve to even listen to this.
The doll head at the very beginning was different, wish the camera person had shown head to shoe close ups of their cool clothes-accessories. The “Fashion Statements!!” 🤩
I like the way the front-row fans are moving and singing along, especially the guy at 3:27 with the jewelry and fur jacket. And who is the mystery 6th person in the dark, on stage on the left? Been a fan since the early '90s.
That’s Peter Jordan, their roadie (aka “the 6th Doll”). He filled in for Arthur many times. At this time I’m pretty sure it was because Arthur was still healing up from his crazy girlfriend trying to cut off his thumb.
@@MrShaunsk You can argue they were alittle more avant-garde than punk, but anytime you have Lou Reed in your band his attitude alone is pretty “punky” lol
I will NEVER forget seeing this exact performance when i was 9 years old. My pops bought this Midnight Special DVD set maybe 2005 or so? Anyway, man ill never forget it. This video/performance shaped me in so many ways to come later in my music career & life in general. I remember asking my dad (more of a Todd Rundgren fan) what the story behind the Dolls were, and he just kinda said "Ah they were a hugely influential band but i never really got into em" Then i heard that first "WAAAHHHHHH" and saw the wardrobe and the rest is history 😅 my little kid self always thought the die hard fans singing mixed with scowling faces always stuck with me. Polarizing bands are good bands baby, i was onto something! But man i also remember thinking "THESE GUYS MAKE THE STONES LOOK LIKE PUSSIES!" hahaha
Not that being inducted into that joke of a place ever actually meant anything, but now that there’s only one living member of the Dolls left standing, I think it might be a bit late for that.
If I’m remembering correctly, it wasn’t a broken arm, though it was meant to appear as such. What actually happened was that his girlfriend at the time was a bonafide psycho and the day before they were to go out on tour, she stabbed him in the hand and tried to cut off his thumb, supposedly with the intention of preventing him from ever being able to play bass again. Obviously it didn’t work. A few years later she was Dee Dee Ramone’s girlfriend and she stabbed him in his ass. Lovely girl.
Yes it was. I was at their NY's eve 1973 show at the Aragon Ballroom here in Chicago :) I remember it was really cold and snowy, but I had to wear my glitters finest and silver platforms. Good times.
I dunno. America slept pretty hard on the Dolls back then. It was the UK where they really made an impact, when they went on the Old Grey Whistle Test and the host ‘Smiling’ Bob Harris famously dismissed them as “mock rock”. All the teenage kids who a few years later would make up the initial punk movement were watching, and it was a very pivotal moment for them. Here in America, few people were paying attention… but those who were, like my aunt, ended up being lifers.
@@Shikta-poobah67 In the UK, T. Rex had been around for years. So had Roxy Music. Ziggy Stardust had been out for six months before The NY Dolls appeared in the UK. Iggy and the Stooges arrived the same month as Ziggy, six months before the New York Dolls. Bowie was the biggest thing to all those punk kids. The Dolls were more accepted in the UK because the UK was already there.
The best band in the world, Johnny and Sylvain are gods of R N ROLL… just wished I saw them in them years ago. I saw at the reunion show minus Johnny rip ❤ ❤❤😢
Steve Jones liked the Dolls, but when he started out with Wally Nightingale and Paul, they were playong the Faces and the Who and Steve was just trying to play anything at all. The Dolls sound like their trying to be the Stones and Steve mainly worked power chords.
Pretty much. Johnny was a massive influence on him. He goes into this in his book. The Dolls influenced pretty much all of the original UK punk bands, to varying degrees.
@@Shikta-poobah67 It's funny because if you go back and look at what was said at the time, that influence was not nearly as great as later claimed. It maybe cool for Steve to say that now, but when he was with The Strand/Swankers with Paul Cook and Wally Nightingale, the core of the Pistols, it was The Faces and The Who and pub rock. There's a lot of revisionism because it doesn't sound so cool to be influenced by The Faces and The Who. But look at the songs the Sex Pistols covered in their recordings. Iggy Pop, The Modern Lovers, The Who, Paul Revere and the Raiders, The Small Faces, Dave Berry. Only Iggy is explicitly associated with punk. In "New York," Lydon completely trashes the Dolls, so Steve could not have been too much of a fan. It's hard to see how Johnny Thunders's Rolling Stones-influnced style is connected with Steve's powerchords, and you can see Steve in early gigs affecting a stance like Pete Townsend.
@@thepagecollective It’s always been my understanding that the song “New York” was mainly just a swipe at Malcolm, intended to rile him up because of his time spent in NYC managing the Dolls, and subsequently trying to make the Pistols into his vision of what the Dolls could have been. Malcolm’s romanticizing of the bowery scene didn’t sit well with Lydon/Rotten, who wrote the lyrics. According to Steve, he really didn’t care much one way or another back then about the lyrics. It was mainly just John trying to get a rise out of Malcolm. Then again I wasn’t actually there, so I’m taking Steve at his word. As for Johnny’s influence, I was referring more to the stage presence than the actual playing. I guess I should’ve been more specific.
It strains credulity, but Morrissey of The Smiths was a huge fan of the NY Dolls, and got the band gigs and did promotions in England when they visited.
Must have seen Thunders at least a dozen times. Usually wondering if we’d be seeing his final performance. Once after a live show with his band In Milwaukee, he scheduled an impromptu solo acoustic show at a different club the next day, apparently needing some quick cash. Fortunately I found out about it in time.
I was fortunate to have seen the dolls a couple of times in their prime. A lot of energy and a great show. I played their album for some friends at a party to mixed reviews. One fellow though went on to be in the Dead Boys.
I wonder if you’re talking about Stiv. He was arguably the biggest Dolls freak that ever lived. When I met him after a Lords gig he went on forever about them. The song “Little Boys Play With Dolls” says it all.
These geniuses were the first to fuse the glam rock influences of T. Rex with the proto-punk of Iggy Pop and MC5. Also adding influences from The Rolling Stones and The Velvet Underground. The members of Kiss have said that their influences are mostly British. But... come on. Clearly the New York Dolls were the ones who opened the door for them. For them and for others like Twisted Sister and Motley Crue (and I fall short)
Not to mention Peter Criss and Jerry Nolan were childhood buddies, and I’ve also heard that Ace and Johnny were also fairly tight at one point, though I’m not sure how true that last bit is. All I know is that the Dolls were a *MASSIVE* influence on KISS in their early days. Every original member of KISS have acknowledged this.
@@guitarzan2626 Well at least they learned not to emulate it, because that’s exactly what they (KISS) tried to do in their very early days. There’s a pretty famous (at this point) early photo of KISS from 1973, where they were laughably ripping off the Dolls’ look, or at least trying to. I think it was Ace who later on said something to the effect of “we tried to copy the Dolls’ looks until we realized that we were way too ugly to pull it off”. So in a sense they _did_ learn from it. I’ve loved the Dolls a million times more than KISS ever since I first found out about them when I was 13 years old, but at the same time I didn’t mind those first three albums, plus the first live album. KISS just were who they were, and the Dolls were who they were. One helped plant the seeds of the punk movement after influencing a million bands that would later become household names, and the other ended up becoming a multi-million dollar corporate entity masquerading as a rock band.
Whoa whoa whoa, I never saw this in such clear quality before. Who was the second bass player next to Arthur? What was that about? Was Arthur's hand still messed up?
@DestinyFilmWorks Aerosmith has proudly proclaimed their appreciation for the Dolls. KISS are more snooty about it saying they couldn't play but it's so obvious that KISS were following in the footsteps of the NYD in look and sound.
@@dexterjankaren Really? Every interview or article I’ve ever read or seen/heard from the various members of KISS, they’ve always had nothing but high praise for the Dolls, and have always acknowledged how big an influence they were on them. Even Gene, who normally is an arrogant ass with nothing good to say about anyone. Just out of curiosity, where did you hear that?
@Shikta-poobah67 Gene is definitely more cordial than Paul. Paul doesn't really say much of anything positive concerning his contemporaries. I think it's obvious KISS was influenced by the Dolls and if you heard positive things said by KISS About the Dolls, I believe it, again it's mainly Paul I'm talking about. And he didn't say they weren't good, just that they weren't technically good players of their instruments. The Dolls probably said something negative about KISS and Paul Stanley took it personally. I've heard it different places but one place is the KISStory documentary on Hulu.
There is for sure. Good view at the 3:17 mark. You can see that Kane’s fretboard hand is in a cast as well. There were several times someone had to play because Kane had issues. I’m trying to figure who it is here.
@@CapraObscuraPeter wasn’t the guitar tech, just a general all around roadie. The guitar tech was Bob, who also tech’ed for Aerosmith, he’s not playing here. That’s Peter Jordan.
The band that would influence an entire genre of Glam Rock and Glam Metal. From classics like KISS to Aerosmith to Hanoi Rocks to bands like Mötley Crüe. I certainly know they were a direct influence on my old band. RIP Johnny Thunders.
More like the band that started punk rock. Malcolm McLaren was a hardcore NYD fans and Sylvain Sylvain gifted him a guitar that Steve Jones played with the Pistols
@@kellylappin5944 I guess people like T Rex and ziggy stardust. But yea, the dolls took it to another level of intensity which definitely influenced punk rock and 80s hard rock.
@@tomwilson8607Actually I think it’s you who needs to do your homework. The Dolls started out in full makeup and stilettos in 1970, a good two years before Ziggy Stardust was born. Just because they didn’t release an album until ‘73 doesn’t mean they weren’t already ahead of the curve.
...who's the drummer? Appears to be a lefty. I always felt bad drumming live and the sound man realized I was a lefty and had to do some mic rearranging before we played (Gilman, Berkeley Square...)
I always felt bad drumming live - I had to read that over a few times. I thought you noticed, detected, sensed bad live drumming. As a left handed drummer, I often felt bad playing live venues. When the sound man realised I was a "lefty" he'd have to do some mic rearranging before we played.
I always think the singer looks like Halloween era Jamie lee Curtis.And nice to see a young Amy Schumer rocking out there and hoping to ' meet the band' after the show, no doubt.
If you ever wondered what Mick Jagger and Tom Waits would sound like singing as one person... here ya go!
David Johansen
Not even close...
Mick Jagger has a wonderful voice, especially in the band’s beginnings, up until Some Girls
Tom Waits is dripping. So good.
Absolutely
That first Dolls record is amazing.
Second too.
Thank Todd!
I love both albums, but yeah the first one is definitely more solid.
Johnny Thunders 🤩❤️🤩
Heroin's a hell of a drug!
@@stephenstone8480 😔
@@stephenstone8480It was when it still existed.
@@stephenstone8480 they all took it, especially Johnny Thunders which killed him; he was once a drug dealer.
Punk and glam, somehow combined, before it's time.
Punk was basically a mutation of glam. When glam fizzled out in ‘75, punk rose from the ashes. The Dolls looked more glam than most glam bands did, but they were dyed-in-the-wool punks, a few years ahead of the game.
Stolen by 80s make up metal bands their scene image later
Like they landed from another planet! I was just watching the documentary NY Doll on Arthur before his death which was just brilliant. Free on YT.
Why is there a back up bassist? 😂
Kane's girlfriend had recently stabbed him the wrist, so he couldn't play. he was miming it while their roadie played the bass line. If that ain't punk, I don't know what is :) @@Mankind_-
@@Mankind_-That’s Peter Jordan.
@@tomindenver1331 early punk, glam punk.
This is the clearest video I’ve seen of the dolls thank you
And Top Of The Pops
Not HD but good contrast and color depth; Watching on my new OLED TV now.
The notorious OGWT footage is pretty clear too.
@@Shikta-poobah67but not live
@@matthewjdouglas6471 I had to do some digging, but it would appear that you’re right, at least in the instance of the Dolls’ appearance on OGWT. The only bit of their performance that was live was the vocals. It was shortly afterwards that OGWT switched their format to being 100% live performances. It was late ‘73 when they made the switch, so the Dolls just barely missed it. I stand corrected.
What a treat! A rare video of the Rolling Stones in their short lived glam- punk rock period.
IM DEAD, IVE BEEN LAUGHING SO HRD
This MIGHT be mick and keith
This is such a complete bullshit comment. The Rolling Stones were mimicking, to racist levels of exaggeration, the Black bluesmen from which they stole their sound in the mid-60s. So it's only fair that they spread their style across a whole range of musicians in the next generation. But don't you dare pretend that the Rolling Stones popped out Zeus' head with no influences of their own.
@@Bainbridge40 Mick and Keith's evil twins
😁😁😁
Johnny Thunders is the ultimate guitar HERO!!!! 🤘🤘🤘
Now I realize where Steve Jones got his playing style from !
Yea he's so great...that's why he o.d...someone. to look up to...ha ha...get real
@kelvinwebber90 Poor little Kevin has some issues to deal with. You poor little kid.
@kelvinwebber90 ok little kid. When you grow up and realize that just because someone has a drug issue doesn't take away the fact of their talent. If you knew anything you would know that there is a lot more to people than your shallow way of thinking. Grow up Kid.
@@victorgallagher6312 you said it Victor ! some people don't get it...
"I guess you guys aren't ready for that yet. But your kids are gonna love it."
😂
That’s debatable… lol
@@danielvillareal2569 This band influenced *so many* '70s, '80s, and '90 rockers, from glam rock to punk and indie rock, and more, continuing on to today. The first NYD album was released in '73, the year I was born, and it's one of my all-time favorites.
I love Back To The Future 💯💯💯
Amazing lol
When you realize that David Johansen is the only one who still walks among us.
You mean Mr. Buster Poindexter??? ;-)
@@lintelle2382 Probably.
"Personality Crisis" and New York Dolls...wow! That song and their self-titled debut album swept me away when I was a kid! I not only discovered New York Dolls, but I also found Iggy & The Stooges and MC5. Then a few years later Ramones entered my life, with Sex Pistols, The Clash, Dead Boys, The Dictators, Buzzcocks, The Heartbreakers, Blondie, Generation X, Television, Magazine, Patti Smith, Talking Heads, Richard Hell & The Voidoids following. The 70s...what a supreme era for gritty and cutting-edge rock 'n roll...
I’m with you my friend!
Some of these bands will never be repeated.
Thank God😂😂😂
@@charlesjoseph6486 Awww you beat me to it!! lol....XD thank you Lord above! How's that...
Problem was that They didn't last. Look at Dave as Buster singing Hot Hot Hot, or His infrequent appearing on The Tonight Show, as He lived down the street from the studio. No, The New York Dolls, in any shape, from or fashion, will ever appear again, as They came a bit before their time. Best of luck to Dave, as I think he's the only one left.
Not true, I play the Dolls on repeat all the time.
@@GS-vb3zn Booooo. 😆
I love the hardcore Dolls fans singing along.
And the rest of the audience looks stunned!
@@stephenstone8480those hippies are so high on drugs that they have a black stare
Hardcore they look like ordinary nobodies
@@matthewtaylor7355 AND....they look like they are bored stiff, haha..
@@matthewtaylor7355Are hardcore fans supposed to have a certain look? Like superheroes or something? This was the early seventies. What were you expecting?
I saw The Dolls in 1973 at the Marion County Ohio Fairgrounds of all places. I was with a couple of friends. The Dolls were fabulous. This video reminds me of how fabulous they were.
Great Dolls debut, Midnight Special set the standard for late night rocking, hard to believe 4/5 are gone.
hard to believe
Plus original drummer Billy Murcia at the very beginning.
@@davidlisowski5245 unfortunaly
I was especially bummed when Syl passed a few years ago. I don’t know why that one hit me harder than the others, but it did. Maybe it was because my old band from the 90’s got to open for him and I learned firsthand just what a great human being he was at a personal level, or maybe it was because he was the beating heart of the Dolls, or most likely it was a combination of those things… but when he died it really hit me hard for some reason.
OH my god! new york dolls!!!! thanks!!
Monday morning hot!! I love David's voice. He scream-yells so well! Another one worth a second (or third or 4th) view! 💥
Stephanie, look up the Dolls playing "Looking for a Kiss" live 2 great versions.
Well put!
It’s not as easy as it sounds, and he’s the master!
David’s voice is hoarse and shot here. He sings much better in other performances
Have you notice there's a second bass player playing right behind Kane?
Actually that session musician in the dark is the one who is playing the bass live in here, Kane alcohol addiction was so severe by then that he could't play as he used to.
Yes it's true
I was wondering about that.
That’s Peter Jordan. The “6th Doll”. He wasn’t a session musician. He was a roadie. He filled in for Arthur many times, for various reasons.
Thanks, never noticed that.
Arthur is wearing a cast
Nice. Todd Rundgren produced New York Dolls debut LP.
He did? Good to know, love Todd Rundgren.
@@KittyGrizGriz, yes indeed. During early '70s, Todd also produced Sparks debut LP. Grand Funk's "We're An American Band." That was his "first big pay day check," as a producer.
Todd's been quite an influence in my musical world for many years. Cheers.
Todd remade this song, it’s on TH-cam
After 51 years the Dolls still rules! 👍
And they were the first band with the privilege of having those beautiful letters behind them.
Wow, how cool!!
So under appreciated. They were a few years before their time. So lucky to have had them.
“Killer” Kane and his famous broken arm in LA. I remember shots in Creem seeing him in that cast…hence the auxiliary bassist.
I thought it was because his psycho ex tried to saw off his thumb so he couldn’t go on tour? Same psycho ex that later got with Dee Dee Ramone and stabbed him in the ass. Connie. She seemed like a real piece of work.
ROCK AND ROLL! THANKS! Ferocious! Man, love seeing Jerry Nolan bash away and rock out, that guy was a real rock & roll drummer, great pocket. 90% of the punk bands that came in their wake should have had such a pocket. All the whole subsequent style of English punk singing goes right to Johansen (Lydon, Strummer, et al). guess it sounded like a good idea at the time! 🤣
So true! Would have been cool to see those bands on here.
For several minutes I was 13 years old again and I loved it loved it loved it!!!
Paul Cook too? 😉
@StephanieJeanne they didn't exist then
Good, but no JN.@@barrysmith8920
Buster went on to a successful cab driving career. Bill Murray was one of his fares.
🤣
"You are so pathetic! YOU ARE SO PATHETIC, that was The Little House On The Prarie!"
I watched Scrooged on weekend he was awesome should done more acting.
Fare enough...
Looks and sounds like it was recorded yesterday. 👍😎
Haha. They dubbed in the applause after, while 90% of the crowd are about to go home and join the Republican Party. The Dolls were too beautiful.
I'm a 65 year old MAGA Republican and was listening to the NY Dolls when I was 16 years old. Your such a little brainwashed sheep. You dont deserve to even listen to this.
The Dolls
Yesss. Thank you!
This is so crucial.
Should be shown in music classes all over the nation
Visionarios...
Relevant to this day!
Always will be, as long as there are misfit kids with access to electric guitars.
The doll head at the very beginning was different, wish the camera person had shown head to shoe close ups of their cool clothes-accessories.
The “Fashion Statements!!” 🤩
I like the way the front-row fans are moving and singing along, especially the guy at 3:27 with the jewelry and fur jacket. And who is the mystery 6th person in the dark, on stage on the left? Been a fan since the early '90s.
That’s Peter Jordan, their roadie (aka “the 6th Doll”). He filled in for Arthur many times. At this time I’m pretty sure it was because Arthur was still healing up from his crazy girlfriend trying to cut off his thumb.
NY Dolls brought a van full of their groupies and placed them in the front row. Beyond that everyone else was like ….😳
Damn that's hard rockin'!
I used to see them hanging out at Bethesda fountain in Central Park on sundays
Paul Stanley´s dancing moves really got inspired by the Dolls vocalist.
All of 80s Hair metal has to give their debt to the Dolls
my second concert ever was The NY Dolls at some seedy club in Philly (my first was The Stones in ‘72)
Wonderful song and beautiful girls!!! ❤❤❤
MC-5, The Stooges and the Dolls. The trifecta of Proto punk.
Velvet Underground ought to be in there too.
@@MrShaunsk
You can argue they were alittle more avant-garde than punk, but anytime you have Lou Reed in your band his attitude alone is pretty “punky” lol
Patti Smith
Bingo!
Looks like Arthur Killer Kane needed some help while doing this gig
Mystery Man on bass in the shadows 😂
Mystery Man = Peter Jordan
I will NEVER forget seeing this exact performance when i was 9 years old. My pops bought this Midnight Special DVD set maybe 2005 or so? Anyway, man ill never forget it. This video/performance shaped me in so many ways to come later in my music career & life in general.
I remember asking my dad (more of a Todd Rundgren fan) what the story behind the Dolls were, and he just kinda said "Ah they were a hugely influential band but i never really got into em"
Then i heard that first "WAAAHHHHHH" and saw the wardrobe and the rest is history 😅 my little kid self always thought the die hard fans singing mixed with scowling faces always stuck with me. Polarizing bands are good bands baby, i was onto something!
But man i also remember thinking "THESE GUYS MAKE THE STONES LOOK LIKE PUSSIES!" hahaha
Most of that audience was sitting in stunned disbelief 😐😎
Arthur “Killer” Kane! Yes!
Thank God for the back up bassist. 😂
The New York/New Jersey Dolls were very primitive, raucous, & influential. Thank you for posting this great clip. Love the Midnight Special channel!
NJ?
Ooops! I stand corrected (Thank you!) -I thought they originally hailed from NJ--upon further research--they were NY all the way.@@nanchanger
Get them in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame!!!
And Japan!
Not that being inducted into that joke of a place ever actually meant anything, but now that there’s only one living member of the Dolls left standing, I think it might be a bit late for that.
They would refuse to be in that crap of RRHF.
Great live stuff from the Dolls. Anyone notice that Arthur isn't actually playing due to his broken arm.
That answers my question about there being 2 bass players, thanks.
@@MikeyLovesLife..yep Peter Jordan their roadie filled in for Arthur on a number of dates. David is the only Doll left...time marches on.
@@MikeyLovesLife yes I have a few vids with Arthur sitting on an amp with plaster cast on
If I’m remembering correctly, it wasn’t a broken arm, though it was meant to appear as such. What actually happened was that his girlfriend at the time was a bonafide psycho and the day before they were to go out on tour, she stabbed him in the hand and tried to cut off his thumb, supposedly with the intention of preventing him from ever being able to play bass again.
Obviously it didn’t work.
A few years later she was Dee Dee Ramone’s girlfriend and she stabbed him in his ass. Lovely girl.
@@Shikta-poobah67 ...you are a Dolls trivia monster!..the Dee Dee story makes it even better..long live The New York Dolls.
AMAZING!!!
It took me years to learn the lead singer was Buster Poindexter,,, Feel it HOT HOT HOT.
Holy shit how did I not know this!!!! It's so obvious now that you've said it.
@@adriennejean2685 Once you see it. Mind Blown
I saw him and his band during his Buster days. So much fun, a good time.
@@treasuremuch9185 I bet that was a fun show. What a character.
@boscodooley8561 Really was. Small venue, but the crowd and he and the band had a helluva great time.
I love the Dolls....what a great band!!!!!!!!
Apparently they made their chaotic sound enjoyable and exciting! Brilliant!
Love Thunders backing vocals !
Thunders is mesmerising here
The Dolls were everything your parents were afraid of!
Glorious!🤘😎🤘
the Dolls stunned America...it was great!
Yes it was. I was at their NY's eve 1973 show at the Aragon Ballroom here in Chicago :) I remember it was really cold and snowy, but I had to wear my glitters finest and silver platforms. Good times.
A slight overstatement
@@matthewtaylor7355 Very much. NY tends to get wrapped up in itself and think it's America.
I dunno. America slept pretty hard on the Dolls back then. It was the UK where they really made an impact, when they went on the Old Grey Whistle Test and the host ‘Smiling’ Bob Harris famously dismissed them as “mock rock”. All the teenage kids who a few years later would make up the initial punk movement were watching, and it was a very pivotal moment for them.
Here in America, few people were paying attention… but those who were, like my aunt, ended up being lifers.
@@Shikta-poobah67 In the UK, T. Rex had been around for years. So had Roxy Music. Ziggy Stardust had been out for six months before The NY Dolls appeared in the UK. Iggy and the Stooges arrived the same month as Ziggy, six months before the New York Dolls. Bowie was the biggest thing to all those punk kids. The Dolls were more accepted in the UK because the UK was already there.
Saw them at a overcrowded dive bar in Akron in 78 the energy was over the top dollsf orever
love the girl singing along
The best band in the world, Johnny and Sylvain are gods of R N ROLL… just wished I saw them in them years ago. I saw at the reunion show minus Johnny rip ❤ ❤❤😢
So this is where Steve Jones took his playing from !
Steve Jones liked the Dolls, but when he started out with Wally Nightingale and Paul, they were playong the Faces and the Who and Steve was just trying to play anything at all. The Dolls sound like their trying to be the Stones and Steve mainly worked power chords.
Pretty much. Johnny was a massive influence on him. He goes into this in his book. The Dolls influenced pretty much all of the original UK punk bands, to varying degrees.
@@Shikta-poobah67 It's funny because if you go back and look at what was said at the time, that influence was not nearly as great as later claimed. It maybe cool for Steve to say that now, but when he was with The Strand/Swankers with Paul Cook and Wally Nightingale, the core of the Pistols, it was The Faces and The Who and pub rock. There's a lot of revisionism because it doesn't sound so cool to be influenced by The Faces and The Who. But look at the songs the Sex Pistols covered in their recordings. Iggy Pop, The Modern Lovers, The Who, Paul Revere and the Raiders, The Small Faces, Dave Berry. Only Iggy is explicitly associated with punk. In "New York," Lydon completely trashes the Dolls, so Steve could not have been too much of a fan. It's hard to see how Johnny Thunders's Rolling Stones-influnced style is connected with Steve's powerchords, and you can see Steve in early gigs affecting a stance like Pete Townsend.
@@thepagecollective It’s always been my understanding that the song “New York” was mainly just a swipe at Malcolm, intended to rile him up because of his time spent in NYC managing the Dolls, and subsequently trying to make the Pistols into his vision of what the Dolls could have been. Malcolm’s romanticizing of the bowery scene didn’t sit well with Lydon/Rotten, who wrote the lyrics. According to Steve, he really didn’t care much one way or another back then about the lyrics. It was mainly just John trying to get a rise out of Malcolm. Then again I wasn’t actually there, so I’m taking Steve at his word.
As for Johnny’s influence, I was referring more to the stage presence than the actual playing. I guess I should’ve been more specific.
To think that’s 1973 and only 9 years earlier the Beatles wanted to hold your hand.
It strains credulity, but Morrissey of The Smiths was a huge fan of the NY Dolls, and got the band gigs and did promotions in England when they visited.
Must have seen Thunders at least a dozen times. Usually wondering if we’d be seeing his final performance. Once after a live show with his band In Milwaukee, he scheduled an impromptu solo acoustic show at a different club the next day, apparently needing some quick cash. Fortunately I found out about it in time.
I was fortunate to have seen the dolls a couple of times in their prime. A lot of energy and a great show. I played their album for some friends at a party to mixed reviews. One fellow though went on to be in the Dead Boys.
I wonder if you’re talking about Stiv. He was arguably the biggest Dolls freak that ever lived. When I met him after a Lords gig he went on forever about them. The song “Little Boys Play With Dolls” says it all.
I remember seeing them when they first started at a dive bar in south jersey. Also saw them in New Brunswick. Way ahead of their time......
"New York Dolls" Definite throwback to better music !!! 🤘
The way rock and roll is supposed to sound
seen them @mercer street. funny story got stuck in a elevator with the whole band . great guys RIP Johnny Thunders
New York Dolls are an awesome band
This was some wild shit remember them well
What a dull, discouraged audience....The Dolls on stage delivering pure rock n roll!
I was 15 when I first saw this. Still looks and sounds great.
Top notch crisis!!!!
Buster Poindexter !!! Feeling hot hot hot !
These geniuses were the first to fuse the glam rock influences of T. Rex with the proto-punk of Iggy Pop and MC5. Also adding influences from The Rolling Stones and The Velvet Underground.
The members of Kiss have said that their influences are mostly British. But... come on. Clearly the New York Dolls were the ones who opened the door for them. For them and for others like Twisted Sister and Motley Crue (and I fall short)
The band that inspired Gene and Paul to form KISS
Not to mention Peter Criss and Jerry Nolan were childhood buddies, and I’ve also heard that Ace and Johnny were also fairly tight at one point, though I’m not sure how true that last bit is. All I know is that the Dolls were a *MASSIVE* influence on KISS in their early days. Every original member of KISS have acknowledged this.
Its a shame they didn't learn from it.
@@guitarzan2626 Well at least they learned not to emulate it, because that’s exactly what they (KISS) tried to do in their very early days. There’s a pretty famous (at this point) early photo of KISS from 1973, where they were laughably ripping off the Dolls’ look, or at least trying to. I think it was Ace who later on said something to the effect of “we tried to copy the Dolls’ looks until we realized that we were way too ugly to pull it off”.
So in a sense they _did_ learn from it. I’ve loved the Dolls a million times more than KISS ever since I first found out about them when I was 13 years old, but at the same time I didn’t mind those first three albums, plus the first live album. KISS just were who they were, and the Dolls were who they were. One helped plant the seeds of the punk movement after influencing a million bands that would later become household names, and the other ended up becoming a multi-million dollar corporate entity masquerading as a rock band.
The Ghost of Christmas Past!
Che pootz! What a voice!
Oof Madonn’. 😖
Johnny Thunders was my favorite by far 🤘🤘🤘🤘
So many guitarists got their moves from Johnny!
Still kicks ass!!!!
Whoa whoa whoa, I never saw this in such clear quality before. Who was the second bass player next to Arthur? What was that about? Was Arthur's hand still messed up?
his girlfriend tried to cut off his thumb so a roadie played the bass
@TracyFClark thanks for the response, that's wild!
Wow, this is a really significant upload.
Amazing stuff! Those hippies sitting on the floor with their arms crossed trying to look cool while thinking "WTF is this?" is hilarious too.
The version from Musikladen - a German rock show - is really good too, but it was pulled off YT last year. 😭
Who knew Chuck Berry and the Shirelles would lead to this! Awesome!
And David Johansen's solo records are great, too. Check them out, you won't be sorry.
2 bass players at 1:00?
Yep, just like Flipper
You can definitely see the influence this band had on other bands, especially kiss, and the way, Paul Stanley performs
And Steven Tyler and Aerosmith..He and Joe were in the audience at some of the Dolls shows taking notes you can tell..
@DestinyFilmWorks Aerosmith has proudly proclaimed their appreciation for the Dolls. KISS are more snooty about it saying they couldn't play but it's so obvious that KISS were following in the footsteps of the NYD in look and sound.
@@dexterjankarenthats hilarious considering KISS themselves could barely play besides maybe Ace Frehley. I hate Kiss.
@@dexterjankaren Really? Every interview or article I’ve ever read or seen/heard from the various members of KISS, they’ve always had nothing but high praise for the Dolls, and have always acknowledged how big an influence they were on them. Even Gene, who normally is an arrogant ass with nothing good to say about anyone.
Just out of curiosity, where did you hear that?
@Shikta-poobah67 Gene is definitely more cordial than Paul. Paul doesn't really say much of anything positive concerning his contemporaries. I think it's obvious KISS was influenced by the Dolls and if you heard positive things said by KISS About the Dolls, I believe it, again it's mainly Paul I'm talking about. And he didn't say they weren't good, just that they weren't technically good players of their instruments. The Dolls probably said something negative about KISS and Paul Stanley took it personally.
I've heard it different places but one place is the KISStory documentary on Hulu.
Was there a backup bass player near the back stack for Arthur Kane? (Great documentary about him from '05)
Sure does look like it. He's playing a Thunderbird.
Thought the same thing.
yeah, that was a new one...
There is for sure. Good view at the 3:17 mark. You can see that Kane’s fretboard hand is in a cast as well. There were several times someone had to play because Kane had issues. I’m trying to figure who it is here.
@@CapraObscuraPeter wasn’t the guitar tech, just a general all around roadie. The guitar tech was Bob, who also tech’ed for Aerosmith, he’s not playing here. That’s Peter Jordan.
The Dolls rule!!
"Hey, John. John! It's Marvin. Your cousin, Marvin Ramone. Know that new sound you're looking for? Well, listen to this!"
The band that would influence an entire genre of Glam Rock and Glam Metal. From classics like KISS to Aerosmith to Hanoi Rocks to bands like Mötley Crüe. I certainly know they were a direct influence on my old band. RIP Johnny Thunders.
glam was already going way before these started,, do your home work ffs,,
@@tomwilson8607
Really?
By whom?
More like the band that started punk rock. Malcolm McLaren was a hardcore NYD fans and Sylvain Sylvain gifted him a guitar that Steve Jones played with the Pistols
@@kellylappin5944 I guess people like T Rex and ziggy stardust. But yea, the dolls took it to another level of intensity which definitely influenced punk rock and 80s hard rock.
@@tomwilson8607Actually I think it’s you who needs to do your homework. The Dolls started out in full makeup and stilettos in 1970, a good two years before Ziggy Stardust was born. Just because they didn’t release an album until ‘73 doesn’t mean they weren’t already ahead of the curve.
goosebumps from the beginning
This is so ahead of it's time its crazy. Cross between Romones and Motley. But 73. Mind blowing.
...who's the drummer? Appears to be a lefty. I always felt bad drumming live and the sound man realized I was a lefty and had to do some mic rearranging before we played (Gilman, Berkeley Square...)
I always felt bad drumming live - I had to read that over a few times. I thought you noticed, detected, sensed bad live drumming.
As a left handed drummer, I often felt bad playing live venues. When the sound man realised I was a "lefty" he'd have to do some mic rearranging before we played.
@@stuartwray6175 Sorry for the confusion!
They still look cool.
I'm old enough to remember this when it aired. Say, who's the bassist backing up Arthur? Could it be Blackie Goozeman (aka Lawless)?
Nope. Peter Jordan.
Who is playing the bass behind Arthur “Killer” Kane? They can be clearly seen at the 3:17 mark.
Peter Jordan. Sometimes he replaced Artur when he couldn't play.
I always think the singer looks like Halloween era Jamie lee Curtis.And nice to see a young Amy Schumer rocking out there and hoping to ' meet the band' after the show, no doubt.
Awesome
Why is there a 2nd bass player?? If you pause it at 2:48 you'll see him. It's so weird, I wonder if Kane was too high or something
It kinda looks like David Bowie's bass player from that Era
Arthur Kane's girlfriend cut his thumb, he's in a cast if you look close, Road crew member Peter Jordan is playing bass
Amy Schumer knew all the words.
Holy shit , man! Saw it right away. HaHa😆
That's exactly what I thought!!
XD