Also the saddest because this means it was likely the boss giving him presents which hasn’t happened since he killed her. So he would think he’s now on the naughty list for killing the boss.
My problem with keifer is not his voice acting, I actually really liked his voice but he talks in the entire Phantom Pain for under 4 minutes (I'm not joking, look it up)
Venom is NOT Big Boss. Venom spent 9 years in a Coma, NOT Big Boss. BB never had a prosthetic arm and Ishmael didnt visit BB in the Hospital, BB visited Venom AS Ishmael.
Big Boss - One of my favorite characters. It's worth noting that the "Big Boss" in MGS5 isn't the "Big Boss" we know. Apparently, that's the medic who was caught in that explosion.
A major issue with this video is the fact that you lump both Venom Snake and Big Boss into one and have facts that would be reserved for Venom Snake in with Big Boss, when it's very clearly shown at the very end of Phantom Pain that Venom is a body double created by Big Boss, the medic from Ground Zeroes who was psychologically conditioned to believe he is Big Boss, created to take the fall for him, as well as create the legend of Big Boss, and serves as Big Boss' very own phantom. It was Venom that was in the coma and lost an arm, not Big Boss.
yes but at the end it also states that they both are still big boss because he venom became the legend which also means us as the player is big boss as the fans are what created the legend of big boss to so yes he is big boss even tho he isnt a clone and was manipulated and mentally rewired to believe hes big boss kojima tells us that he is big boss which is us the one who created the character at the start of the game
Big Boss believing in Santa always gave me this mental image of The Boss, this stoic, pragmatic realist, using her expert stealth skills that won us World War 2, to hide presents, eat the milk and cookies, and make just enough clatter every Christmas Eve to make young John have happiness in his heart.
For all the people claiming Venom Snake and Big Boss aren’t the same person, that’s true. However Big Boss himself told Venom Snake that they share the Big Boss title together. So Venom is Big Boss as well. I’m not saying I like it, but that’s what happened.
Venom is effectively the mental doppelganger of Big Boss, even if the original personality sometimes comes through, Venom is still close enough to BB to be considered the same person
They do share a title but Volgin quit fighting when he realized the real Big Boss has blue eyes. The phantom has green eyes, and is not the same person in fact. I guess that leaves it up to us to distinguish the canon from the legend. Knowing that the medic has his own unique injuries and hallucinations that John never sustained incline me to honor their individual experiences as different characters. On the other hand Raiden went through VR to be just like Solid Snake (they shared the title for about 5 mins 😅) but we have no problem with the narrative going above and beyond to distinguish them. We know Raiden is the third Cyborg Ninja since MG2SS (Black Ninja, Kyle Schneider), but when we say "The Cyborg Ninja" I always know that we're talking about Frank Jaeger and not the meme in Jack the Ripper. That's how I see it anyway.
@@OniCamoGamingI'm pretty sure Volgin noticed that Venom wasn't the same Snake he knows when he took off his eyepatch, since he knows that Naked lost his right eye when Volgin tortured him, while Venom still had both of his eyes
Now do you remember? Who you are? What you were meant to do? I cheated death, thanks to you. And thanks to you I've left my mark. You have too - you've written your own history. You're your own man. I'm Big Boss, and you are too... No... He's the two of us. Together. Where we are today? We built it. This story - this "legend" - it's ours. We can change the world - and with it, the future. I am you, and you are me. Carry that with you, wherever you go. Thank you... my friend. From here on out, you're Big Boss.
People are saying that it isnt big boss in MGSV but kojima made it at the end of the game say "i am big boss and so are you" which is saying that our character the one we create at the start is also big boss venom is him too he is a big reason for the legend that is big boss and is saying that us as the player is big boss since its our character we customized at the start that is venom snake aka big boss. And the fans are the creators of the legend of big boss so we are big boss. its actually quite well done by kojima but people done realise or understand it
Question. On the fact "Big Boss doesn’t have a sense of smell" the example used is venom snake coming back from a mission stinking like dung. Since the medic was hypnotized into believing he was Big Boss, did he psychosomatically lose his sense of smell?
I would just say yes because if that was something known by others about BB then V's identity might be called into question if he could casually smell things out of nowhere.
To be exact big boss can infact smell however that codec where the boss mentions that big boss can't smell isn't canon and is only just an in game joke by kojima on the fact that video games don't have a smell mechanic (ie not being able to smell the game's ingame environment) however canonically both big boss and venom snake can smell since they both know the smell of a cigar
Now do you remember? Who you are? What you were meant to do? I cheated death, thanks to you. And thanks to you I've left my mark. You have too - you've written your own history. You're your own man. I'm Big Boss, and you are too... No... He's the two of us. Together. Where we are today? We built it. This story - this "legend" - it's ours. We can change the world - and with it, the future. I am you, and you are me. Carry that with you, wherever you go. Thank you... my friend. From here on out, you're Big Boss. Venom snake is big boss , big boss is not a person but a title and pretty much the whole ending to mgsv explains this , even if venom is the medic in ground zeroes he is a big boss so no , naked snake is not the only big boss.
@@NutsItsBerserkinTimeTrue naked snake quite frankly says that venom snake is big boss , big boss is not a person but a title , pretty much everyone who are fans of big boss are forgetting that also mgsv pretty much tells us everyone can be a big boss not just venom and shows that genes don’t matter and memes are superior to genes if the process is done right.
It would probably be hard to do but I’d love a video about what the camera angles in classic Resident Evil and MGS add to the experience, if even at the cost of controls. Maybe even a top 10 camera angles lol
I wouldnt say big boss is a villian, hes more of a person who was willing had to do what he to do to fight for what he believed in and protect those he cared about, even if people disagreed with it.
Great video. Gotta point out some things though. The thumbnail you used in the Solid Snake video is the Smash version, which uses a Naked Snake face on a redone MGS2 Solid Snake outfit. And the Big Boss face camo is based on the Solidus corpse. The missing left eye tells them apart both times. In The Phantom Pain, Venom does have lines commenting on how things smell, which gives it away that he isn't Big Boss.
@@Sayajin3321 yeah he was given the big boss title but he is not THE BIG BOSS. The real one was behind the scenes the whole time. Venom is more like a body double
Now do you remember? Who you are? What you were meant to do? I cheated death, thanks to you. And thanks to you I've left my mark. You have too - you've written your own history. You're your own man. I'm Big Boss, and you are too... No... He's the two of us. Together. Where we are today? We built it. This story - this "legend" - it's ours. We can change the world - and with it, the future. I am you, and you are me. Carry that with you, wherever you go. Thank you... my friend. From here on out, you're Big Boss. Even if venom is not big boss he is objectively pretty much similar to naked snake in both physical and mental form although he regained his memory back.
I was shocked you didn’t go more into the dichotomy of Naked Snake and Venom Snake, as they are both Big Boss but different. If you do any follow-up vids, I’d be curious to see if you can dig up more on Quiet. Despite her…outfit…I really enjoyed the character and wish we knew what happens to her after the events of MGS5. 😊
I’ve played more of Big Boss than Solid Snake. MGS3 was my first MGS game I’ve ever played. I’ve played MGS4, but only watched the other Solid Snake games via TH-cam. Peace Walker and Phantom Pain were the only MGS games I played constantly.
3:29 Yeah, Big Boss really can't smell anything, BUT Venom can. He even commented about the sweet smell that impregnated the quarantine facility. And at 11:25, why would anyone say La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo twice ?
I watched this on my break at work and bursted out in laughter at the end by the words "smash that like button like Big Boss smashed Eva" Didn't expected this one...😂 Great content ❤
Big Boss is the important aspect of the MGS timeline and story as a whole. It’s also funny that he believes of the existence of Santa Clause and vampires.
Snake eater was the game that revolutionized today's games. I did not expect this game to be this good and heart breaking as a 9 year old when my mom got it.
wait......why did Big Boss only receive the Second highest honor for literally preventing WW3? he should have gotten the Medal of Honor + the Purple Heart, I am genuinely confused by that
A MOH would have brought to much attention, there would have been a ceremony and since there’s so few of them it’s a big deal. In real life during the vietnam was a green beret named bob howard got 3, but it took him a few decades becouse it would have gotten I. The way of his work, he would have had to retire, which is why at the time we snuck in to records and swiped the papers from his commander downgrading it to a silver star so he could keep operating
@@tacticool_weeb8450 .......there was nothing stopping anyone in the government from giving it to Big Boss on the sly, if secrecy is so damn important then they simply would have forgone the formalities and kept the records on it secured if it was a national secret
Venom Snake from MGS V is not Big Boss in fact he' s not even his clone. He was a Diamond Dogs combat medic who underwent facial reconstruction and subliminal brainwashed to be Big Boss.
I feel like bunch of these points are simply explained away by the fact its not Big Boss, but that it's Venom Snake. Like Eli feeling no connection, or Big Boss appearing at the end of MGS4 with two hands.
Something that I thought was interesting is that Big Boss doesn’t have a sense of smell but his phantom venom mentions smelling something sweet at the quarantine lab hinting at who he really was.
3:17 I'm pretty sure the smelling stuff is an easter egg about Kojima because when a new console coming soon, he wanted them to have some futuristic features where he wanted to make the players feel like they're inside of the game since he wanted to merge the players with the main characters, the Nintendo 3DS was probably the closest since he ported MGS3 there and the 3D effects will be disabled after Snake loses his right eye 3:55 Ocelot reaction 😂😂😂 10:15 you can even see his tears outside of the first person view when EVA also starts crying at the end of her narration The name Jack was an easter egg, some people believed it's a reference to Jack-in-the-box because of Snake's obsession with cardboard boxes, others believed it has something to do with Raiden (which his real name is Jack) back when people hated him, because if you picked "I like MGS2" at the start of MGS3, Snake will be wearing Raiden/Raikov mask at the start of the game, even his name will be replaced with Jack when the game is presenting him and on the health bar, picking "I like MGS2" was actually a prank Kojima made to the players who hated Raiden but enjoyed MGS2 since Snake will take off the mask after the codec call from Zero, but you can still wear it but it will annoy Zero while calling him (which he's also based of the Raiden haters because he has some easter eggs about him and Raikov)
Venom and Big boss are one entity. Venom was the reason the Big boss moniker was so famous after the eighties. When talking about one you are actually talking about two. In japan during feudal times there was a muskateer named "Magoichi Saika" who was rumored to actually be three different men or a group of men but was likely just a name each man used to have every exploit go to this "one" man and conserve anonymity for themselves. The authorities would be looking for a different face every time they hear stories of the man. A man who is almost omnipresent, was seen everywhere and fought in many battles. A man of many exploits and a "legendary" warrior. "Magoichi" was the leader of a group of MERCENARIES much like boss in the MGS series. Hideo likely got the idea of a renegade band of mercenaries fighting the powers that be from the mercenary group from japanese history.
Metal gear solid three snake eater is my favorite video game. I just just played on my PlayStation 2 back in the day on a Janky old television and now I got it for all three consoles,
Jack is a nickname for John. That's why you hear John F Kennedy referred to as Jack. Same with his brother Robert Kennedy. Also known as Bobby. You channel rocks, bro!!!
Where I’m from, Jack is a nickname for John. Not really sure why but that’s just how it is. Just looked it up to make sure I wasn’t crazy and here’s the first thing I found. The name Jack is a derivative of John, which originated in medieval England. The name went from John to Johnkin to Jankin to Jackin to, you guessed it, Jack. There is also a theory that Jack is Celtic in origin, meaning "healthy, strong, and full of vital energy."
What I've been wondering is, if Venom is a complete mental/physical doppelganger of Big Boss, did he lose vision in the same eye or was he blinded in that eye on purpose?
I always think MGS5 and Hideo Kojima would've made some extra points if David Hayter voiced the true Big Boss, even if he had very few lines. Meaning, voicing the main character in Ground Zeroes, Ishmael and Big Boss at the very end of the game.
Hate to be that guy, but you missed that he appears in ground zeros. Yes it’s a prequel to the phantom pain and super short, but technically is it’s own release and Sku
I thought this too. The first mission of GZ is canon and in fact it is the last mission for the real Big Boss as an operative. As for now in MGS timeline.
@@anssil5640yeah. Not sure if Kai didn’t wanna spoil the twist of Phantom Pain. But it’s ironic that he focused more on Phantom pain for “big boss” more than ground zeros lol
I was legitimately pissed off that David Hayter got fired. He is Snake. Kojima chasing after bigger celebrities when they themselves don’t even want anything to do with him or us - it’s just pathetic.
11:32 kojima explained that when “big boss” was killed by solid in “metal gear 2: solid snake” that was in fact his clone that we played as in “MGS 5 the phantom pain” as the real big boss went into hiding due to world wide death threats, I understood that when big boss and solid snake met at the end of “MGS 4 guns of the patriots” it was for the first and last time which was why solid seemed stunned as he believed (along with liquid and solidus) he killed him years ago… so where does Naomi come in to restore big bosses body as there was no mention of the real big boss in a critical burned state?
Actually, the Big Boss killed in MG2 is Naked, the original Big Boss. Venom, the player character of MGSVTPP, is killed in the first Metal Gear game. The easiest way to verify this is that the tape you can see at the end of TPP is labeled "Intrude N313", which is the same operation Snake undergoes during MG1. The "real" Big Boss's body was, in fact, burned, whereas Venom was probably taken out by missiles (as that's the most common way to kill him in MG1)
@@SolidSnakePC No problem!! A lot of people are still confused about MGSV and what Big Boss was where at what time, and it's always good to help clear up confusion ahsbdnf
So, a bit nitpicky, but I don't think Snake / BB actually believes in Santa Claus. He's referring to an annual community outreach programme that NORAD have run since 1955 where they simulate tracking Santa on their RADAR.
He did mentions that Santa used to bring him presents when Huey was making fun of him, and in some people's theory, they believed Naked Snake truly does believes in Santa is because of The Boss was the one who gives him presents before he killed her, Amanda also believes in Santa because she mentions it in one of her cassette tapes, even some of the MSF soldiers says Santa is real while looking at their stats
i think regarding Big Boss not having the sense of smell, in MGS V:PH, we didn't play as the Real Big Boss but rather his doppelganger. So in other words both are different ondividut
You forgot to mention that he has a tattoo on his chest that represents the boss's scar on her chest as shown in peace Walker and snake eater. Also he prefers cigars and his true love is the 1911 eva gave him (that 1911 made him more excited than eva or the boss ever did 😂)
He didn't have The Boss's scar in MGS3, it was only her bandana Big Boss got when she throws him off the bridge, you can see his naked (shirtless) model doesn't have it yet and that was a secret about the scar was a tattoo, we only find out when trying to escape the prison cell in PW
I too came to the comment section to talk about Venom Snake. But this is something you only realize towards the end of that game, so maybe he wanted the video to be spoilers free? But then again, killing The Boss can also be considered a spoiler, so I don't know kkkkk
Yes, The Boss death do count as a spoiler but the game actually foreshadows it, and it even foreshadows outside of the game which is the artwork of Big Boss saluting while wearing his suit he used at the ending in one the covers, the save data icon of the PS2 version also shows The Boss's Patriot and a flower which Big Boss puts on her grave which I don't that was a good idea to have the flower in the icon because it does foreshadows it before beating the game while checking the Memory Card
I always thought they called Boss in MGS 3 Jack was because it’s a nickname for John. Like President John Kennedy. Kennedy’s family called him Jack, I think.
Yo Kai I saw you started a Yakuza stream and I love that series. Hope you'll like it and can continue from Kiwami (1) up to Yakuza: Like a Dragon (7th). Then there is an uocoming Like a Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His Name. Which I won't spoil. Lol. It'll be out November 9. Then early next year would be the 8th in the mainline series Like A Dragon: Infinite Wealth. Then soon Facts about Kiryu Kazuma. 😊
You play as Venom in TPP, not Big Boss. That's a double and not the same character. However; you do play as Big Boss proper in Ground Zeroes, which wasn't mentioned in his canon appearances section near the beginning of this video. Otherwise, excellent work. You might even say "pretty good 🔫"
Another fact, the bolts that snake was shot with should have given him the same effects as viagra from the Brazilian Wondering spider venom the Fear used.
You mentioned Big Boss’ entry in the MSX manual as showing his eyepatch on the wrong side…how? It’s clearly on his right eye, the same one that was shot by Ocelot. Did you fix it? Because I stared for an awfully long time trying to see the error.
Big Boss being a Santa Claus believer is of my fave trivia of this franchise. Grear vid!
Somecallmejohnny-this means merry gear solid is canon now right?
Also the saddest because this means it was likely the boss giving him presents which hasn’t happened since he killed her. So he would think he’s now on the naughty list for killing the boss.
FR ! hes so cute with his dialogue ab it too ToT
Damn thats actually sad
I liked Sutherland as Big Boss in GZ and PP, however Hayter is Snake and cannot be replaced.
Hayter is Solid and Keifer is bb and Venom
My problem with keifer is not his voice acting, I actually really liked his voice but he talks in the entire Phantom Pain for under 4 minutes (I'm not joking, look it up)
I feel like it did kind of make sense for Sutherland to be Snake in 5 because it's a different person, but I do think they did it in the worst way
Wish they had Hayter’s voice in the truth cassette tapes
@@louielou3566i think that would’ve really made a difference
"Smash that like button like Snake smashed Eva" wasn't expecting that one😂
Venom is NOT Big Boss. Venom spent 9 years in a Coma, NOT Big Boss. BB never had a prosthetic arm and Ishmael didnt visit BB in the Hospital, BB visited Venom AS Ishmael.
ThIs iSn'T rEsIdEnT eViL cOnTeNt! I'm WrItInG tHe SuRgEoN gEnErAl! 😂😂❤
Surgeon General entering the room: "Kept you waiting, huh?"
@@Keshin4539 You're pretty good!
Big Boss - One of my favorite characters.
It's worth noting that the "Big Boss" in MGS5 isn't the "Big Boss" we know. Apparently, that's the medic who was caught in that explosion.
I’m so glad you said that. So many people think I’m crazy for stating what you said but it’d like legit the story for 5😂
exactly what I wanted to comment, thank you
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Sigma snake is something else
@@PointsMaster I feel like Ink Ribbon baited some people with the stink "fact", mostly because that's venom snake / the medic and not big boss
A major issue with this video is the fact that you lump both Venom Snake and Big Boss into one and have facts that would be reserved for Venom Snake in with Big Boss, when it's very clearly shown at the very end of Phantom Pain that Venom is a body double created by Big Boss, the medic from Ground Zeroes who was psychologically conditioned to believe he is Big Boss, created to take the fall for him, as well as create the legend of Big Boss, and serves as Big Boss' very own phantom. It was Venom that was in the coma and lost an arm, not Big Boss.
yes but at the end it also states that they both are still big boss because he venom became the legend which also means us as the player is big boss as the fans are what created the legend of big boss to so yes he is big boss even tho he isnt a clone and was manipulated and mentally rewired to believe hes big boss kojima tells us that he is big boss which is us the one who created the character at the start of the game
yea I was just thinking this myself lol
“I’m big boss, and you are too…No…He’s the 2 of us together”
Nah but the real Big Boss Enjoyer know by the start original Metal Gear games they end up basically becoming two separate people with the same name.
reverse hipnogosha
''Kept you waiting huh''
-Ink Ribbon
''It felt like years!''
-Probably us
Big Boss believing in Santa always gave me this mental image of The Boss, this stoic, pragmatic realist, using her expert stealth skills that won us World War 2, to hide presents, eat the milk and cookies, and make just enough clatter every Christmas Eve to make young John have happiness in his heart.
Really should've mentioned that Big Boss and the player character in The Phantom Pain, Venom Snake, are not the same person.
That’s because he doesn’t play the games! He just reads what’s off wikia. He’s just cashing on popular content
❗️ There it is! Thank you, Kai
For all the people claiming Venom Snake and Big Boss aren’t the same person, that’s true. However Big Boss himself told Venom Snake that they share the Big Boss title together. So Venom is Big Boss as well. I’m not saying I like it, but that’s what happened.
Venom is effectively the mental doppelganger of Big Boss, even if the original personality sometimes comes through, Venom is still close enough to BB to be considered the same person
They do share a title but Volgin quit fighting when he realized the real Big Boss has blue eyes. The phantom has green eyes, and is not the same person in fact. I guess that leaves it up to us to distinguish the canon from the legend. Knowing that the medic has his own unique injuries and hallucinations that John never sustained incline me to honor their individual experiences as different characters.
On the other hand Raiden went through VR to be just like Solid Snake (they shared the title for about 5 mins 😅) but we have no problem with the narrative going above and beyond to distinguish them. We know Raiden is the third Cyborg Ninja since MG2SS (Black Ninja, Kyle Schneider), but when we say "The Cyborg Ninja" I always know that we're talking about Frank Jaeger and not the meme in Jack the Ripper. That's how I see it anyway.
@@themagalanium9491Venom is naked snake meme also am pretty sure venom is both mentally and physically a copy of big boss.
@@OniCamoGamingI'm pretty sure Volgin noticed that Venom wasn't the same Snake he knows when he took off his eyepatch, since he knows that Naked lost his right eye when Volgin tortured him, while Venom still had both of his eyes
3:28 That's Big Medic, not Big Boss.
No thats Big Giga Medic
That’s small employer not biggest boss
@@ghostwhencodghosts9114 no he gets Promoted to Enormous Executive Giant General Huge Honcho
@@rebelxtreme3871 Chief of considerable size
Now do you remember? Who you are? What you were meant to do? I cheated death, thanks to you. And thanks to you I've left my mark. You have too - you've written your own history. You're your own man. I'm Big Boss, and you are too... No... He's the two of us. Together. Where we are today? We built it. This story - this "legend" - it's ours. We can change the world - and with it, the future. I am you, and you are me. Carry that with you, wherever you go. Thank you... my friend. From here on out, you're Big Boss.
Curious fact, Ocelot didn't actually shot out his eye, the muzzleflash burned his eye. You can see the bullet pass by his head.
I would like to see 50 facts about Revolver Ocelot or Gray Fox next
Fox 😊😊😊
Another excellent video from another of my favourite game series many thanks dude!😎👍🏻
People are saying that it isnt big boss in MGSV but kojima made it at the end of the game say "i am big boss and so are you" which is saying that our character the one we create at the start is also big boss venom is him too he is a big reason for the legend that is big boss and is saying that us as the player is big boss since its our character we customized at the start that is venom snake aka big boss. And the fans are the creators of the legend of big boss so we are big boss. its actually quite well done by kojima but people done realise or understand it
Question. On the fact "Big Boss doesn’t have a sense of smell" the example used is venom snake coming back from a mission stinking like dung. Since the medic was hypnotized into believing he was Big Boss, did he psychosomatically lose his sense of smell?
I would just say yes because if that was something known by others about BB then V's identity might be called into question if he could casually smell things out of nowhere.
To be exact big boss can infact smell however that codec where the boss mentions that big boss can't smell isn't canon and is only just an in game joke by kojima on the fact that video games don't have a smell mechanic (ie not being able to smell the game's ingame environment) however canonically both big boss and venom snake can smell since they both know the smell of a cigar
Just to clear things up. Venom snake from mgs5 isn’t big boss from mgs3. He’s big boss most trusted lieutenants. They are two different people.
Now do you remember? Who you are? What you were meant to do? I cheated death, thanks to you. And thanks to you I've left my mark. You have too - you've written your own history. You're your own man. I'm Big Boss, and you are too... No... He's the two of us. Together. Where we are today? We built it. This story - this "legend" - it's ours. We can change the world - and with it, the future. I am you, and you are me. Carry that with you, wherever you go. Thank you... my friend. From here on out, you're Big Boss. Venom snake is big boss , big boss is not a person but a title and pretty much the whole ending to mgsv explains this , even if venom is the medic in ground zeroes he is a big boss so no , naked snake is not the only big boss.
I’ve been waiting for you to do more MGS facts!
However, Venom Snake is not Big Boss. It’s really confusing but this story is amazing.
it is so confusing since boss says that venom is also big boss, the story amusing. Either way Venom 👑 is my favorite msg character.
@@NutsItsBerserkinTimeTrue naked snake quite frankly says that venom snake is big boss , big boss is not a person but a title , pretty much everyone who are fans of big boss are forgetting that also mgsv pretty much tells us everyone can be a big boss not just venom and shows that genes don’t matter and memes are superior to genes if the process is done right.
Venom Snake is Big Boss, you didn't play the game? He isn't Jack/John obviously, but he IS Big Boss.
It would probably be hard to do but I’d love a video about what the camera angles in classic Resident Evil and MGS add to the experience, if even at the cost of controls. Maybe even a top 10 camera angles lol
From a lot of these entries you seem to think big boss was the playable character in all of five.
I wouldnt say big boss is a villian, hes more of a person who was willing had to do what he to do to fight for what he believed in and protect those he cared about, even if people disagreed with it.
He literally brainwashes one of his top soldiers to be his scapegoat and to continue the war the economy, big boss is a villain man.
The guy from 24 is the perfect snake 💯💯💯 11:16
Great video. Gotta point out some things though.
The thumbnail you used in the Solid Snake video is the Smash version, which uses a Naked Snake face on a redone MGS2 Solid Snake outfit.
And the Big Boss face camo is based on the Solidus corpse. The missing left eye tells them apart both times.
In The Phantom Pain, Venom does have lines commenting on how things smell, which gives it away that he isn't Big Boss.
Just wanted to point out that big boss and venom snake are two different people. We play the entirety of the phantom pain as big boss' medic
Naked Snake(Jack)and Venom Snake(Ahab) are two different people, but both are Big Boss.
@@Sayajin3321 venom is the medic
@@boogzg9964 Who becomes Big Boss. "I am Big Boss, and so are you- no, we're one in the same."
@@Sayajin3321 yeah he was given the big boss title but he is not THE BIG BOSS. The real one was behind the scenes the whole time. Venom is more like a body double
Now do you remember? Who you are? What you were meant to do? I cheated death, thanks to you. And thanks to you I've left my mark. You have too - you've written your own history. You're your own man. I'm Big Boss, and you are too... No... He's the two of us. Together. Where we are today? We built it. This story - this "legend" - it's ours. We can change the world - and with it, the future. I am you, and you are me. Carry that with you, wherever you go. Thank you... my friend. From here on out, you're Big Boss. Even if venom is not big boss he is objectively pretty much similar to naked snake in both physical and mental form although he regained his memory back.
VENOM SNAKE IS THE TRUE HERO, TOOK DEM L'S FOR DA REAL BIG BAWS
50 fact's about Eva from Metal gear sold 3
I was shocked you didn’t go more into the dichotomy of Naked Snake and Venom Snake, as they are both Big Boss but different. If you do any follow-up vids, I’d be curious to see if you can dig up more on Quiet. Despite her…outfit…I really enjoyed the character and wish we knew what happens to her after the events of MGS5. 😊
Number 17 is promo for Peace Walker. Another great video btw
Loved the video, can't wait for the next one!
1. he's big
2. he's the boss
Goddamn right
I love these top 50 facts! Keep up the good work!
I’ve played more of Big Boss than Solid Snake. MGS3 was my first MGS game I’ve ever played. I’ve played MGS4, but only watched the other Solid Snake games via TH-cam. Peace Walker and Phantom Pain were the only MGS games I played constantly.
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Yeah, Big Boss really can't smell anything, BUT Venom can.
He even commented about the sweet smell that impregnated the quarantine facility.
And at 11:25, why would anyone say La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo twice ?
I watched this on my break at work and bursted out in laughter at the end by the words "smash that like button like Big Boss smashed Eva"
Didn't expected this one...😂
Great content ❤
She dies because she speaks. The vocal parasite she had was the English strain so that's why she was "Quiet" until she is forced to speak to Save V.
Big Boss is the important aspect of the MGS timeline and story as a whole. It’s also funny that he believes of the existence of Santa Clause and vampires.
been a fan of mgs since the 90s. I never shy away from the rabbit hole of mgs lore. no matter the time of day lol
Snake eater was the game that revolutionized today's games. I did not expect this game to be this good and heart breaking as a 9 year old when my mom got it.
wait......why did Big Boss only receive the Second highest honor for literally preventing WW3? he should have gotten the Medal of Honor + the Purple Heart, I am genuinely confused by that
A MOH would have brought to much attention, there would have been a ceremony and since there’s so few of them it’s a big deal. In real life during the vietnam was a green beret named bob howard got 3, but it took him a few decades becouse it would have gotten I. The way of his work, he would have had to retire, which is why at the time we snuck in to records and swiped the papers from his commander downgrading it to a silver star so he could keep operating
@@tacticool_weeb8450 .......there was nothing stopping anyone in the government from giving it to Big Boss on the sly, if secrecy is so damn important then they simply would have forgone the formalities and kept the records on it secured if it was a national secret
Venom is not big boss btw
Venom Snake from MGS V is not Big Boss in fact he' s not even his clone.
He was a Diamond Dogs combat medic who underwent facial reconstruction and subliminal brainwashed to be Big Boss.
Its a dream come truee! Thanks kai! Keep up the great work
I feel like bunch of these points are simply explained away by the fact its not Big Boss, but that it's Venom Snake. Like Eli feeling no connection, or Big Boss appearing at the end of MGS4 with two hands.
Big Boss is originally Naked Snake and then Venom Snake. This video combines both of them and their history. A bit convoluted
Something that I thought was interesting is that Big Boss doesn’t have a sense of smell but his phantom venom mentions smelling something sweet at the quarantine lab hinting at who he really was.
3:17 I'm pretty sure the smelling stuff is an easter egg about Kojima because when a new console coming soon, he wanted them to have some futuristic features where he wanted to make the players feel like they're inside of the game since he wanted to merge the players with the main characters, the Nintendo 3DS was probably the closest since he ported MGS3 there and the 3D effects will be disabled after Snake loses his right eye
3:55 Ocelot reaction 😂😂😂
10:15 you can even see his tears outside of the first person view when EVA also starts crying at the end of her narration
The name Jack was an easter egg, some people believed it's a reference to Jack-in-the-box because of Snake's obsession with cardboard boxes, others believed it has something to do with Raiden (which his real name is Jack) back when people hated him, because if you picked "I like MGS2" at the start of MGS3, Snake will be wearing Raiden/Raikov mask at the start of the game, even his name will be replaced with Jack when the game is presenting him and on the health bar, picking "I like MGS2" was actually a prank Kojima made to the players who hated Raiden but enjoyed MGS2 since Snake will take off the mask after the codec call from Zero, but you can still wear it but it will annoy Zero while calling him (which he's also based of the Raiden haters because he has some easter eggs about him and Raikov)
Venom and Big boss are one entity. Venom was the reason the Big boss moniker was so famous after the eighties. When talking about one you are actually talking about two. In japan during feudal times there was a muskateer named "Magoichi Saika" who was rumored to actually be three different men or a group of men but was likely just a name each man used to have every exploit go to this "one" man and conserve anonymity for themselves. The authorities would be looking for a different face every time they hear stories of the man. A man who is almost omnipresent, was seen everywhere and fought in many battles. A man of many exploits and a "legendary" warrior. "Magoichi" was the leader of a group of MERCENARIES much like boss in the MGS series. Hideo likely got the idea of a renegade band of mercenaries fighting the powers that be from the mercenary group from japanese history.
Big boss was never the villain. He didn’t wanted to be part of the system that zero created (the patriot)
kept you waiting uh? -Ink Ribbon 2023
Jack is a nickname for John, so it makes sense.
It’s the one secret BB held over Ocelot by the end of that game. A final one up.
Metal gear solid three snake eater is my favorite video game. I just just played on my PlayStation 2 back in the day on a Janky old television and now I got it for all three consoles,
Don’t know if many people know this, but Jack is a pet or nickname of John
Jack is a nickname for John for some reason. JFK was called Jack by family and friends.
2:04 that's the man who sold the world, ladies and getleman!
Jack is a nickname for John. That's why you hear John F Kennedy referred to as Jack. Same with his brother Robert Kennedy. Also known as Bobby. You channel rocks, bro!!!
Where I’m from, Jack is a nickname for John. Not really sure why but that’s just how it is.
Just looked it up to make sure I wasn’t crazy and here’s the first thing I found.
The name Jack is a derivative of John, which originated in medieval England. The name went from John to Johnkin to Jankin to Jackin to, you guessed it, Jack. There is also a theory that Jack is Celtic in origin, meaning "healthy, strong, and full of vital energy."
What I've been wondering is, if Venom is a complete mental/physical doppelganger of Big Boss, did he lose vision in the same eye or was he blinded in that eye on purpose?
Little Liquid Snake or Eli didn't know that Big Boss that he met wasn't Big Boss.
I always think MGS5 and Hideo Kojima would've made some extra points if David Hayter voiced the true Big Boss, even if he had very few lines. Meaning, voicing the main character in Ground Zeroes, Ishmael and Big Boss at the very end of the game.
Hate to be that guy, but you missed that he appears in ground zeros. Yes it’s a prequel to the phantom pain and super short, but technically is it’s own release and Sku
I thought this too. The first mission of GZ is canon and in fact it is the last mission for the real Big Boss as an operative. As for now in MGS timeline.
@@anssil5640yeah. Not sure if Kai didn’t wanna spoil the twist of Phantom Pain. But it’s ironic that he focused more on Phantom pain for “big boss” more than ground zeros lol
Big boss in metal gear 1 was actually venom snake
I was legitimately pissed off that David Hayter got fired. He is Snake. Kojima chasing after bigger celebrities when they themselves don’t even want anything to do with him or us - it’s just pathetic.
Jack is a common nickname for people named John (for some reason). For example, JFK's nickname was also Jack.
I truly hope u make a video on The Boss. Shes my all time fav video game character alonf with big boss
Well, they made us believe that he was a villain, but he's actually the true hero of the series
11:32 kojima explained that when “big boss” was killed by solid in “metal gear 2: solid snake” that was in fact his clone that we played as in “MGS 5 the phantom pain” as the real big boss went into hiding due to world wide death threats, I understood that when big boss and solid snake met at the end of “MGS 4 guns of the patriots” it was for the first and last time which was why solid seemed stunned as he believed (along with liquid and solidus) he killed him years ago… so where does Naomi come in to restore big bosses body as there was no mention of the real big boss in a critical burned state?
Actually, the Big Boss killed in MG2 is Naked, the original Big Boss. Venom, the player character of MGSVTPP, is killed in the first Metal Gear game. The easiest way to verify this is that the tape you can see at the end of TPP is labeled "Intrude N313", which is the same operation Snake undergoes during MG1. The "real" Big Boss's body was, in fact, burned, whereas Venom was probably taken out by missiles (as that's the most common way to kill him in MG1)
@skinlizard2251 I didn’t know that so thanks for info, it’s true you learn something new every day 👌
@@SolidSnakePC No problem!! A lot of people are still confused about MGSV and what Big Boss was where at what time, and it's always good to help clear up confusion ahsbdnf
I noticed too many times, that you seemed to skim over Venom Snake (mgs5) and Big Boss not being the same.
11:52 rebuild him?
Wasn't Venom who fought Solid and died?
Yes
On the original Metal Gear, yes
On Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, no, that was the real Big Boss
Great vid as always my awesome brother, how is the new town? looked great
So, a bit nitpicky, but I don't think Snake / BB actually believes in Santa Claus. He's referring to an annual community outreach programme that NORAD have run since 1955 where they simulate tracking Santa on their RADAR.
He did mentions that Santa used to bring him presents when Huey was making fun of him, and in some people's theory, they believed Naked Snake truly does believes in Santa is because of The Boss was the one who gives him presents before he killed her, Amanda also believes in Santa because she mentions it in one of her cassette tapes, even some of the MSF soldiers says Santa is real while looking at their stats
i think regarding Big Boss not having the sense of smell, in MGS V:PH, we didn't play as the Real Big Boss but rather his doppelganger. So in other words both are different ondividut
8:53 That's Peacewalker not Portable Ops.
Big boss in PP barely talk….. David hayter can’t be replaced
You forgot the biggest fact of them all; Big Boss is dummy thicc, and the sounds of his ass cheeks clapping always keep alerting the guards.
2:44 no, that's the correct eye.
To bad MG story ended 🫡🫡🫡what a game!
Man, the lore is so convoluted.
Facts about Sniper Wolf from Metal Gear Solid.
You forgot to mention that he has a tattoo on his chest that represents the boss's scar on her chest as shown in peace Walker and snake eater. Also he prefers cigars and his true love is the 1911 eva gave him (that 1911 made him more excited than eva or the boss ever did 😂)
He didn't have The Boss's scar in MGS3, it was only her bandana Big Boss got when she throws him off the bridge, you can see his naked (shirtless) model doesn't have it yet and that was a secret about the scar was a tattoo, we only find out when trying to escape the prison cell in PW
Yay a metal gear video
Appreciate you doing the Facts for Big Boss
Fun Fact: Ocelot is the only character who have met all snakes
I am big boss and you are too! carry that where ever you go.
I too came to the comment section to talk about Venom Snake. But this is something you only realize towards the end of that game, so maybe he wanted the video to be spoilers free? But then again, killing The Boss can also be considered a spoiler, so I don't know kkkkk
Yes, The Boss death do count as a spoiler but the game actually foreshadows it, and it even foreshadows outside of the game which is the artwork of Big Boss saluting while wearing his suit he used at the ending in one the covers, the save data icon of the PS2 version also shows The Boss's Patriot and a flower which Big Boss puts on her grave which I don't that was a good idea to have the flower in the icon because it does foreshadows it before beating the game while checking the Memory Card
I always thought they called Boss in MGS 3 Jack was because it’s a nickname for John. Like President John Kennedy. Kennedy’s family called him Jack, I think.
BB and Venom Snake aren’t the same character.
50 facts you do is awesome :)
3:18 Good thing he never met Vamp then.
Thaks Kai and SS Jerry for this amazing video
Yo Kai I saw you started a Yakuza stream and I love that series. Hope you'll like it and can continue from Kiwami (1) up to Yakuza: Like a Dragon (7th). Then there is an uocoming Like a Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His Name. Which I won't spoil. Lol. It'll be out November 9. Then early next year would be the 8th in the mainline series Like A Dragon: Infinite Wealth.
Then soon Facts about Kiryu Kazuma. 😊
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Wrong side? BB got his eye shot by Ocelot in the correct side shown in the picture.
You play as Venom in TPP, not Big Boss. That's a double and not the same character. However; you do play as Big Boss proper in Ground Zeroes, which wasn't mentioned in his canon appearances section near the beginning of this video. Otherwise, excellent work. You might even say "pretty good 🔫"
Another fact, the bolts that snake was shot with should have given him the same effects as viagra from the Brazilian Wondering spider venom the Fear used.
You forgot the most important fact, that he is Literally Me 😳😳
You mentioned Big Boss’ entry in the MSX manual as showing his eyepatch on the wrong side…how? It’s clearly on his right eye, the same one that was shot by Ocelot. Did you fix it? Because I stared for an awfully long time trying to see the error.
Up next 50 facts about ocelot/liquid ocelot 😁✌️
Nice it been ages I’d played MGS5 tho but looking forward for MGS Delta. Btw venom snake is body double.
But venom says that he smells something sweet when going into the quarantine zone