so i tested the t598 at the simracing expo and for someone who has never done dd technology or simracing at all, it is currently the best deal (price-performance ratio) as a simracing beginner can make. since my son and i want to dive into the simracing world and start from 0, nothing else comes into question. this year we have saved for the ps5, psvr2 and for a simrig. that's a lot of money and this deal is and remains in my opinion currently the best starter set.
I’ve had mine for almost a week and I love it! Found some recommended settings for GT7 and I’m really enjoying the experience. I’m coming from a T300 though. I wouldn’t buy it to replace either of the wheel bases noted in ur title, but it’s a great PS5 based DD wheel. I’m running my T-LCMs and love it.
I've the same concern... I've a T300 and I want to upgrade it, but I'm afraid to get something than don't get very far from T300 (I also play in ps5 only) could you tell me more about difference between the two wheel base? Have you try it on ACC?
@@texthemex76 There are a lot more reviews out now than when I originally commented, so I’d encourage u to check those out. That said, I have no regrets in upgrading from my T300. This base is notably stronger and it doesn’t suffer from FFB loss when it heats up (which it doesn’t do badly anyway). The feedback seems to be near instant, so I catch the car where I would’ve spun out on my T300. There are oscillation issues that can easily be tuned out in the settings, and I’m counting on several improvements when it gains software support. However, it’s a good experience overall. I’ve played ACC a few times and it feels better there too. It’s not as good as it is on PC, but it’s still far better than my T300. The PS5 options are limited, so you’ll have to spend a good bit more to get marginally better performance, so I don’t think u can go wrong with this. I wouldn’t hesitate if it’s in ur budget. I’m happy I got it and I think u will be too.
I bought one 2 days ago. And now that I'm setup and had some seat time w/it. I'm very impressed. However it's my first DD wheel so I'm not one to make the best judgement I suppose. But man this thing is smooth and responsive and the brake and gas pedals are very nice to me. At 499. Rhis thing is very silent and just all around smooth. I also really like the settings adjustment features on the fly from the wheelbase. I give it a 👍👍 and i havent even tried it on gt7 yet which was the main reason I purchased as my other wheel wasn't officially PS compatible and was a bit glitchy. U think your right about reviewers though. Ive watched them as well. They are high end users and it's not really for them. The base is very sturdy w/quite a bit of weight to it. I am totally satisfied w/my purchase as I'm not wanting anything super high end or more powerful
@frogboyx1Gaming i would be interested in your opinion though as well since u have had so many variations. Either way I'm satisfied and will be keeping it. One thing the reviewers are right about is the wheel quality. It doesn't feel like much but comfortable to drive with. Its definitely usable, and I will be using it, but at its price that's the area where they saved. Not a big deal for u, as u have other options. The base itself feels around 10lbs. What are the weight on the ones u own approx? Just for comparison as its my 1st DD
For me I am happy with the choice and at the sim expo in Germany they said they are working with Sony to get full t598 support on Gt7. So just can get better and good for my budget. Just waiting for the loadcell upgrade.
It really does not block as much as people make it out to. I didn’t have to change anything on my setup I have mine set up in front of my 42 inch tv and I can see everything fine. If you are using a computer monitor it might be a bigger issue but for met it’s not even noticeable
I'm not in the market, as I have a DD Pro and Logitech G Pro, but it's fantastic that TM have introduced this base and wheel. My gripe would that the base lacks stabilty fore and aft because of the narrow footprint. I might have that wrong, but its the opposite of the massive G Pro's footprint. The G Pro's width stops it from rocking side to side under heavy stress, which I think is clever. I could be proved wrong, and hopefully so, because the community needs more competition at the lower and mid levels of the market. Good old TM has been there from almost the start.
I bought it day of release. I play on a wheel and pedal stand in front of my 65" lg gx. So i have no visual issues. I play gt7 and EA WRC and it has been amazing. Granted, i came from a t150, but i got it for the entry price. Im a casual sim racer since life with young kids is so busy. But im loving it. I only play on ps5 right now, but do have a gaming PC, just rather play on the 65" oled.
Looking forward to your review. Hope you can get your hands on one soon. If you lived near me, I would tell you to come pick mine up for a few days to use. I made my thoughts pretty clear in my review and curious if you find the experience the same as me or maybe I'm just crazy.
@thecasualracinggamer i watched your review. It was very good and honest I believe. Prob one of the better ones to go by right now as others just wrote it off. I love the T598 and your right the price seals the deal. No regrets
You are not crazy that's exactly how GT7 feels on my Fanatec DD Pro if you make the wheel heavier it ruins the other force feedback it's either loose and sloppy or tight and dull. Your review gave me the information I needed.
I'm debating I'm picking this up when they sell just the servo. I already have the tlcm pedals and a sf1000 rim. Using the t300 at the moment but I think this might be better than that. I'm going to wait and hope someone compares the two.
I bought it to upgrade from the T300 and I have no regrets. I’m running my T-LCM pedals so I would’ve preferred to buy the base only, but I’m impatient. This is far more powerful and I don’t lose FFB when it heats up (which it doesn’t really do). I’ve ordered a quick release adapter for my open wheel, but the bundled wheel is not horrible, so I’ll use it for drifting and rallying, so no loss there. In other words, I won’t discourage u from waiting, but I won’t discourage u from not waiting either. It’s a worthwhile purchase for any PS console racer and I think you’ll have no regrets.
Absolutely. Its not an 8nm base and anyome buying it for that may be disappointed. Overshoot and peak.. All I can say is don't buy this expecting an upto 10nm experience (unlile the gt dd pro that truly is an 8nm peak base)
I actually run my Moza R9 at around 50 to 60% FFB for the most part and still pretty satisfied with it. So this 5nm with 10nm overshoot will pretty much be similar if not better and is PS5 supported.
@@danceoffAsh ill turn down my 15nm Alpha for drift but not for race cars. Only in game gain if needed. For manual cars with round wheel I usually cap the base at 8.5nm. At about 60% you'll use most of that range but only cars with high grip, or intense moments really go beyond 5nm. I personally wouldn't want to go below the R12 or maybe the Alpha mini. The GT DD pro just hasn't quite got enough for my liking. But around 10nm its enough for GT cars, and with some fime tuning, sure I reckon 9nm should give you what you need to be consistent. Just that for that feeling of really taking a corner at speed, and feeling that transition of grip gradually, I like the Alphas range when it comes to that
Nobody is reviewing this properly so I hope you do a proper review even though it’s compatible with PC it wasn’t built for PC. That’s what the t818 is for It was meant to corner the market for the PS five.
@@Frogboyx1gamingdd is like $1300 can t gt 2 $1100 T598 comes in at less then $700 In Canada The real problem Everybody is comparing it with pc And it was completely, really not built for it On top of that, it’s new technology and no game has been optimized for this yet Everybody’s gonna be going to this technology because it solves their issues and all they have to do is software updates. The clogging is gone.
@coreymorgenstern8065 its a very clean, smooth, responsive experience w/detail. And it was very much designed for pc as well. Its the only thing I've used it on so far and I have gt7. Its been awsome
You have little understanding about the value the wheelbase offers. Once the next offerings with the cost restraint is unlocked the Axial flux Printed Stator motors will destroy everything on the market. The T598 was a way to commercialize the technology and introduce it to the market. The competition is all ready jumping that way. Just gonna take 3-4 years to have an offering. When the have 10+ newton meter offerings are gonna be bonkers. Remember with technology it has unlimited software function vs current technology. You. Can ride a horse or drive a car. Just take your shovel with your opinion.
Tbh i would never buy one over those two options. Its just not good from what everyone ive talked to has said. First it doesn't hsve seperation between details. The loading and unloading feel isn't as good. Its just not right the ffb implementation. Something is off and thrustmaster released the t818 feeling amazing so it's very clear the wheelbase and motor is the issue. The new motor was just them finding a way to reduce cost in manu and make a cheaper dd motor but in turn it made it worse imo.
@@reviewforthetube6485 i wiuld have to disagree. The detail is definitely there. U do have to make sure it's on the right profile for pc or ps5. I see that being an issue for some that I have watched for some reason. The ff feels what and where it should once locked in as w/any wheel
@JtotheM it won't work on pc if you sre in ps5 mode and if in ps5 mode it won't work on oc so fhats not the issue and thrustmaster has very minimal settings so that isn't the issue either. Again t818 feels amazing this wheelbase does not.
so i tested the t598 at the simracing expo and for someone who has never done dd technology or simracing at all, it is currently the best deal (price-performance ratio) as a simracing beginner can make. since my son and i want to dive into the simracing world and start from 0, nothing else comes into question. this year we have saved for the ps5, psvr2 and for a simrig. that's a lot of money and this deal is and remains in my opinion currently the best starter set.
@@oz_369 I have all of the above and I’m loving it. Welcome to the community! U and ur son will have a great time sharing this hobby.
Absolutely a great place to start DD is amazing my friend.
Its not meant to be a DD Pro killer so no point comparing it to one. Its the budget ps5 DD wheel.
I’ve had mine for almost a week and I love it! Found some recommended settings for GT7 and I’m really enjoying the experience. I’m coming from a T300 though. I wouldn’t buy it to replace either of the wheel bases noted in ur title, but it’s a great PS5 based DD wheel. I’m running my T-LCMs and love it.
I've the same concern... I've a T300 and I want to upgrade it, but I'm afraid to get something than don't get very far from T300 (I also play in ps5 only) could you tell me more about difference between the two wheel base? Have you try it on ACC?
@@texthemex76 There are a lot more reviews out now than when I originally commented, so I’d encourage u to check those out. That said, I have no regrets in upgrading from my T300. This base is notably stronger and it doesn’t suffer from FFB loss when it heats up (which it doesn’t do badly anyway). The feedback seems to be near instant, so I catch the car where I would’ve spun out on my T300. There are oscillation issues that can easily be tuned out in the settings, and I’m counting on several improvements when it gains software support. However, it’s a good experience overall. I’ve played ACC a few times and it feels better there too. It’s not as good as it is on PC, but it’s still far better than my T300. The PS5 options are limited, so you’ll have to spend a good bit more to get marginally better performance, so I don’t think u can go wrong with this. I wouldn’t hesitate if it’s in ur budget. I’m happy I got it and I think u will be too.
I bought one 2 days ago. And now that I'm setup and had some seat time w/it. I'm very impressed. However it's my first DD wheel so I'm not one to make the best judgement I suppose. But man this thing is smooth and responsive and the brake and gas pedals are very nice to me. At 499. Rhis thing is very silent and just all around smooth. I also really like the settings adjustment features on the fly from the wheelbase. I give it a 👍👍 and i havent even tried it on gt7 yet which was the main reason I purchased as my other wheel wasn't officially PS compatible and was a bit glitchy. U think your right about reviewers though. Ive watched them as well. They are high end users and it's not really for them. The base is very sturdy w/quite a bit of weight to it. I am totally satisfied w/my purchase as I'm not wanting anything super high end or more powerful
I also got one I like it so far and I think once GT7 has official support for it I think it will be even better
@@natevanderloon9060 not supported? I wounder about nascar racing ?
That's good to hear. That makes me feel much better about it.
@frogboyx1Gaming i would be interested in your opinion though as well since u have had so many variations. Either way I'm satisfied and will be keeping it. One thing the reviewers are right about is the wheel quality. It doesn't feel like much but comfortable to drive with. Its definitely usable, and I will be using it, but at its price that's the area where they saved. Not a big deal for u, as u have other options. The base itself feels around 10lbs. What are the weight on the ones u own approx? Just for comparison as its my 1st DD
For me I am happy with the choice and at the sim expo in Germany they said they are working with Sony to get full t598 support on Gt7. So just can get better and good for my budget. Just waiting for the loadcell upgrade.
It really does not block as much as people make it out to. I didn’t have to change anything on my setup I have mine set up in front of my 42 inch tv and I can see everything fine. If you are using a computer monitor it might be a bigger issue but for met it’s not even noticeable
A lot of us play in VR. It should hardly be an issue.
I'm not in the market, as I have a DD Pro and Logitech G Pro, but it's fantastic that TM have introduced this base and wheel.
My gripe would that the base lacks stabilty fore and aft because of the narrow footprint. I might have that wrong, but its the opposite of the massive G Pro's footprint. The G Pro's width stops it from rocking side to side under heavy stress, which I think is clever.
I could be proved wrong, and hopefully so, because the community needs more competition at the lower and mid levels of the market. Good old TM has been there from almost the start.
I bought it day of release. I play on a wheel and pedal stand in front of my 65" lg gx. So i have no visual issues. I play gt7 and EA WRC and it has been amazing. Granted, i came from a t150, but i got it for the entry price. Im a casual sim racer since life with young kids is so busy. But im loving it. I only play on ps5 right now, but do have a gaming PC, just rather play on the 65" oled.
It is great to hear it working out for you!
Coming from a T150 this is a massive upgrade my friend enjoy it.
Looking forward to your review. Hope you can get your hands on one soon. If you lived near me, I would tell you to come pick mine up for a few days to use.
I made my thoughts pretty clear in my review and curious if you find the experience the same as me or maybe I'm just crazy.
It's good to hear from someone who has actually used it.
@thecasualracinggamer i watched your review. It was very good and honest I believe. Prob one of the better ones to go by right now as others just wrote it off. I love the T598 and your right the price seals the deal. No regrets
Just watched your video bro you are explaining it just like it feels on my Fanatec DD Pro. T-GT II is undefeated sadly 😥.
I would like to setup a podcast to talk about it sometime this week if you are up to it. Follow me on Twitter and we can discuss it.
You are not crazy that's exactly how GT7 feels on my Fanatec DD Pro if you make the wheel heavier it ruins the other force feedback it's either loose and sloppy or tight and dull. Your review gave me the information I needed.
My Simagic Alpha resonates into the rig. I thought all DD where capable of that though because they vibrate so much
Look at it from someone like me I had a T150 it was a no brainer to get the t598 it’s cheaper than the tgt and newer tech
Definitely a good upgrade from a T150 my friend.
I love the T598 i returned my moza r5 because its just better
Nice
Hi mate
Could not wait I've just bought a DD pro and a load cell 🎉🎉🎉
That's awesome, man.
I'm using it on the desk no complaints
Thank you very much. I got a tgt2 and I am confused
You are probably fine, my friend.
The thrustmaster T598 is a hard to consider buy when the Fanatec CSL DD is $100 less right now.
Unless you are a PlayStation user
Or unless you actually buy a decent wheel and pedal combo with said fanatec base.... All of that will cost you at minimum $700
I'm debating I'm picking this up when they sell just the servo. I already have the tlcm pedals and a sf1000 rim. Using the t300 at the moment but I think this might be better than that. I'm going to wait and hope someone compares the two.
It's definitely better than the t300 early 2025 for just the servo base
I bought it to upgrade from the T300 and I have no regrets. I’m running my T-LCM pedals so I would’ve preferred to buy the base only, but I’m impatient. This is far more powerful and I don’t lose FFB when it heats up (which it doesn’t really do). I’ve ordered a quick release adapter for my open wheel, but the bundled wheel is not horrible, so I’ll use it for drifting and rallying, so no loss there. In other words, I won’t discourage u from waiting, but I won’t discourage u from not waiting either. It’s a worthwhile purchase for any PS console racer and I think you’ll have no regrets.
Absolutely. Its not an 8nm base and anyome buying it for that may be disappointed. Overshoot and peak.. All I can say is don't buy this expecting an upto 10nm experience (unlile the gt dd pro that truly is an 8nm peak base)
I actually run my Moza R9 at around 50 to 60% FFB for the most part and still pretty satisfied with it. So this 5nm with 10nm overshoot will pretty much be similar if not better and is PS5 supported.
@@danceoffAsh ill turn down my 15nm Alpha for drift but not for race cars. Only in game gain if needed. For manual cars with round wheel I usually cap the base at 8.5nm. At about 60% you'll use most of that range but only cars with high grip, or intense moments really go beyond 5nm.
I personally wouldn't want to go below the R12 or maybe the Alpha mini. The GT DD pro just hasn't quite got enough for my liking. But around 10nm its enough for GT cars, and with some fime tuning, sure I reckon 9nm should give you what you need to be consistent.
Just that for that feeling of really taking a corner at speed, and feeling that transition of grip gradually, I like the Alphas range when it comes to that
You will need a computer to update the wheel....it won't work on a ps5 out of the box till updated....found out the hard way
Thanks for the heads up
Weird, I never updated mine and it hooked up and worked wonderfully without any issues.
Nobody is reviewing this properly so I hope you do a proper review even though it’s compatible with PC it wasn’t built for PC. That’s what the t818 is for
It was meant to corner the market for the PS five.
Definitely will do an extensive review as well as use it daily for 30 days
@@Frogboyx1gamingdd is like $1300 can t gt 2 $1100
T598 comes in at less then $700
In Canada
The real problem
Everybody is comparing it with pc
And it was completely, really not built for it
On top of that, it’s new technology and no game has been optimized for this yet
Everybody’s gonna be going to this technology because it solves their issues and all they have to do is software updates. The clogging is gone.
@coreymorgenstern8065 its a very clean, smooth, responsive experience w/detail. And it was very much designed for pc as well. Its the only thing I've used it on so far and I have gt7. Its been awsome
You have little understanding about the value the wheelbase offers. Once the next offerings with the cost restraint is unlocked the Axial flux Printed Stator motors will destroy everything on the market. The T598 was a way to commercialize the technology and introduce it to the market. The competition is all ready jumping that way. Just gonna take 3-4 years to have an offering.
When the have 10+ newton meter offerings are gonna be bonkers. Remember with technology it has unlimited software function vs current technology.
You. Can ride a horse or drive a car. Just take your shovel with your opinion.
@@OfficialComentery thanks for the feedback
Er the price should convince you over the overpriced tgt2
The T-GT II is pretty premium and dam close to my Fanatec DD Pro
@@Frogboyx1gaming maybe on gt7
300 dollar wheel at best it looks cheap and plastic 🤨
It’s a toy used for video games who cares how it looks. What matters is how it performs
Tbh i would never buy one over those two options. Its just not good from what everyone ive talked to has said. First it doesn't hsve seperation between details. The loading and unloading feel isn't as good. Its just not right the ffb implementation. Something is off and thrustmaster released the t818 feeling amazing so it's very clear the wheelbase and motor is the issue. The new motor was just them finding a way to reduce cost in manu and make a cheaper dd motor but in turn it made it worse imo.
@@reviewforthetube6485 i wiuld have to disagree. The detail is definitely there. U do have to make sure it's on the right profile for pc or ps5. I see that being an issue for some that I have watched for some reason. The ff feels what and where it should once locked in as w/any wheel
@JtotheM it won't work on pc if you sre in ps5 mode and if in ps5 mode it won't work on oc so fhats not the issue and thrustmaster has very minimal settings so that isn't the issue either. Again t818 feels amazing this wheelbase does not.
@reviewforthetube6485 to each there own. Your opinion is yours. It feels amazing to myself and many others so far. Glad I purchased