do people just never include the price of shipping.... if i get a product for 10 dollars but the shipping is 350 dollars did i really get the product for 10 dollars?
Have my t598 set up a few days ago. Perfectly happy with it and I think most average drivers and even "semi pro-s" would be happy to drive this. When more updates come it will only improve.
I think sometimes people over complicate things. 95 % of peolle are not chasing that final 1 % improvement ...for me. Thrustmaster for all the compatability and add ons is your best choice for the semi serious casual. But they are all excellent
Hey casual, subscribed to you when you made your first open box for the T598, I bought the T598 when it first came out as well and definitely agree to your opinions then, but now I think after the firmware update….its amazing! Came from g29, t598 was still better, like going from N64 controller to PS5 haptic feedback technology, light years away. This wheel will only get better appreciate your honesty, I think TM listened to your opinion and improved it because of your feedback. Cheers to your channels success!
I can definitely make the call that the wheel improved in GT7 after the firmware update, and we can only speak to how the wheel performs today. Not how it will perform if this or that happens in the future.
I hope they keep adding weight to the wheel and to have the T-DFB effents through harmony would be nice. I do still suspect the heat is limiting factor here. They also could just make the base longer and add second DD rotor to the axle.. would be 10nm T898..😊
Good comparison. Having driven with T-GT since 2018 I know exactly what you are talking about. For reference - what settings do you use with T-GT2? Just that I know to what strenght you are comparing the t598 to. I use FFB strenght ar 6-7 in race cars. Anything more just strains my hands and wrists unnecessarily over time. Also a statement to the power of T-GT - the force there is no joke. And i kind of feel the belt drive actually makes the ffb feel more "real". We are after all talking about forces that RUBBER tires have, so belt makes them just natural.
I've actually been lowering my T-GT II from around a 6-7 to a 4-5. Once you get to 7, I feel like you are starting to fight the wheel turning. The T-GT II just offers a different resistance feeling than the T598 that just feels stronger when you have grip and had an extreme opposite feeling when you lose it. It's more extreme than the T-GT II, but after the update, the T598 is well improved in its feeling.
I have just started to watch your latest video on how the evo r wheel erased the t598 feeling of the wheel and just when you started to explain it said the video is not available. Why did you take it down or have you figured out the problem with different wheels on the t598? I have just bought the ferrari 488 gt3 wheel and I must say it is by far the best wheel on my t-gt ii and I have like 15 different wheels, including custom mods to fit fanatec and momo wheels. It really makes the t-gt ii feel like a far more refined and sturdy quality package with zero creaking with the ferrari 488 gt3 wheel. I really recommend you try it out and see for yourself. Cheers from Slovenia, EU
Anyone who watches you regularly should know better than to question your honesty, there are to many people that assume DD has to be better than a belt driven wheel, which yes in entry level wheels should be the case. But the tgtii is not entry level it has a lot of other tech built in that people forget about especially the t-linear feedback. Also a real car steering is not a simple shaft to motor so isn't necessarily as good as replicating a real life scenario where we have rubber mouted ball joints, rubber tyres, suspension that all transmits through the wheel. There is an argument that a belt is more likely to replicate some of those frictions and responses more accurately. What DD should give you in theory though is more consistency through both replicating the exact same feeling every time through both less parts to source and less susceptible to heat build up causing changes. Although the tgtii is less susceptible than lower end belt driven wheels. So I'd argue having tried a fanatec DD pro, id likely be more consistent but its less immersive than a tgtii.. And as you are a Casual Racer in VR, you probably already have one of the most immersive combinations with the tgtii and its transducer.
I don't think I have heard many people who actually used a T-GT II say anything bad about it. I don't know how you can. The wheel performs extremely well. Even if someone bought a higher end DD wheel, they still usually say how good the T-GT II was.
@@thecasualracinggamer I wasn't implying anything bad about the tgtii, quite the opposite I think it feels more realistic than any DD wheel I tried that's why I have it 🤣🤣 just in theory you should be more consistent with direct drive.
@@thecasualracinggamer I read the " I don't know how you can" as I don't know how YOU can as in me 🤣.. I was thinking jeeez how did he take that as a negative 🤔 sensitive Cas 🤣🤣🤣 so easy to read things differently
Great review Really good i have the tswx for pc but dam I have ps5 also with gt7 I wnat to get something for gt7 I think to just get the gt2 base I think 🤔 that is best option as much as I wnat a direct drive and one day I go for the t818 😊
@@thecasualracinggamerhey i need your help , i just got this wheel from your reviews one question . is it normal to feel when turning at high speeds like the belt is sliping on the wheel? Its My first wheel so i dont knowing that detail of the tires slipping on the road or the wheel is defective
hi, based on your videos, I bought the TGT2 a week ago, and I have a question coming from the t500rs My T500rs fan was not always on, not sure if it is normal, but the TGT2 fan is constantly on is that normal or is something wrong with my TGT2? should I be sending it back? basically, it comes on after a few minutes in-game and stays on thanks in advance
With the way the T598 feels after the update, I think people will really like it, and it's a great buy for the price. I think most casual racers will be completely satisfied. If you were looking to spend more money and had nothing, I might look at the Fanatec 8nm DD, which will be priced close to the T-GT II. If Thrustmaster offered an upgrade kit for the T598 to make it 8nm for, let's say, another 100-150 dollars, it would have made this wheel an absolute buy for anyone.
If u know how to update the firmware with a Mac, please share. I will always wish I could experience the transducer though. That alone seems like such a game changer!
TGT II will always be the king of Belt driven system. Looking at all your reviews so far you definitely don't sound 100% happy with the T598, I think this base is just an Overhyped by TM. They should offer that T598 by only the base as well. I hear it's happening next year but coming from TM crazy prices might be a standalone base for $300 bucks but probably it's going to be more. I also have a feeling they going to came out with another stronger base following the same DAD concept probably when they offer the load cell new pedal. I'm going to stick to my TGT II until this wheel gets fully supported on console. I don't play GT7 or GT sport, I'm looking to use the T598 with other titles like AC, F1, PROJECT CARS and more. I'm so curious to know how the wheel is performing with other games rather than only playing GT7. Not many youtubers reviewing other games 😞 eventually with time I guess. great review like always man! don't pay attention much of people has to say, express whatever you feel like to, in the end is your channel and people will still look at your reviews. Funny that TM is paying attention so much cuz they know that base is not ready and you're hitting them hard 😂 cheers!
@ i was running 10 and it still felt too soft but I’m starting to think I was over heating it I turned it down and it seemed to help a little. Thanks for the reply
Been using my t gt2 and reverted back to my t300 and it actually felt refreshing and smooth without all the extra immersion from my tgt2 . Could zone in on pure driving control. Its a hard call on this subject as it is subjective, seating position pedals all play their part. Thanks for your great videos really does help.👌🏽 Quick question what degree of rotation do you use on your tgt2 , I'm using 180 with open wheel. 😮
Interesting take. Not sure I have seen people go in that direction. The transducer should actual help with feeling things better but it is something you can turn off if you didn't like it. I just let the game handle the rotation degree. I don't change it.
I bought a t gt 2 and I have a question if your fan is also so loud ? it starts almost immediately. I play without headphones on my home theater, so it's quite annoying
Depends what you call competitive, im often in top 50>150 in VR if i actually get a couple of evenings to do dailies always follow the ghost with the top time that often has thrustmaster tgtii logo's on. And until gt7 sold out to fanatec, which is likely to fall short due to fanatec bad press and poor customer service, the tgtii was the GTWS tour wheel they all used. So just asuming as its belt driven and not DD makes it non competitive is not true. Those top times are often grinded for hours and day's whatever the wheel.
Not sure what you mean. Pretty sure the T598 would be on par with the 5nm Fanatec or even better delivering 5nm of constant torque with overshoot capabilities. Of course, it won't deliver the power of the 8nm. I also think the T-GT II would be stronger than the Fanatec 5 Nm DD.
@@clacky78wait you can see what wheels drivers are using on ghost replays? And are they still using the tgt2 for the gt world series as the official wheel?
@1cerecords no I have seen it on the decals quite often on there liveries. And no Fanatec bought the rights from the last world series. But Sony and polyphony are pretty hot on image so all the fanatec bad press wont have gone unnoticed.
The final opinion of the final opinion. Dude what's going on here ? From the perspective of one of your viewers this seems a little fishy. Delete videos. Re do videos. Having the need to keep explaining yourself. Someone who is certain doesn't behave like this. It makes you look unreliable
No, it makes me look truthful. I honestly don't have a solid grasp on the T598. One day, I think it feels good, and then the next day, I'm like, what is going on with this thing. I am kinda torn on the wheel. I will tell you what I'm not torn on. The T-GT II has been solid from day one, and I never questioned the positive experience I have had with it. Also, please explain what you mean by fishy, and don't tell me you think Thrustmaster is messaging me and telling me to pull videos down, LOL. I have 4K subscribers. If they paid that much attention to me, I'd be the biggest small channel out there. As for unreliable. I can be like big channels, tell you how good the wheel is, never actually use it after an initial review, and never try it again after updates. If you look at that as reliable, your right. I'm not your guy for that.
Imo tgt ii will always win between these. To many corners cut. To much of a budget motor in the t598 and then over hyped and over apld by them with there sales pitch. But man oh man is it a cheaply made system and the motor. I get it frictionless but dude you need some for the loading and unloading feel to grab you and go hey don't do this or that. I just hate thw way the t598 feels. But I have alot of experience with dd wheelbases so maybe that's why idk.
@thecasualracinggamer well the inirtia is supposed to fight the wheel going back. What's its supposed to do is help something in motion stay in motion in the seme direction so when its pulling you back it should fight it more. That will help the loading and unloading feeling even if thrustmasted explained inirtia backwards lol. They go inirtia makes wheel harder to turn in haha. I'm like that's not inirtia. Inirtia is the use of something like a heavier wheel so when you go in one direction it feels like it wants to keep moving in that direction and is meant to not change direction or fight the change of direction. Which could yes give the effect that the wheel fights you more. But they explained it way wrong.
@thecasualracinggamer well need to get you some more dd wheelbases in hand so you can see why I say it feels cheap. It even feels 2x cheaper then the csl dd pro does imo. Which has very little plastic mostly metal. Also usually brands when using plastic its a carbon and glass mix not just the generic cheap plastic thrustmatser uses. You can fele it to the touch. Most plastics used by brands in this field are higher end feeling a nice softness like cf feels jnstwad of hard to the touch. The plastic overall is hard but there is a texture to good vs bad plastic. Lol
@reviewforthetube6485 So the base itself is not plastic, and it's quite heavy. If you are talking about the rim, yeah, the plastic they used on it is complete garbage.
The face of the base is plastic. Also open it up and look at the internals it looks ok but the hardware used is very very inexpensive which is why they made this for budget buyers. Then they oversold it as if its this new tech that's gonna be so much better then other dd wheels and thats just so false. This was marketing and it was made for budget sim racing and its 100% at that lower level. It does not have a premium feel in any way. All dd have some weight so don't let the weight confuse you in quality. I just do not like it. I've used alot of dd wheelbases and this is not a good dd wheelbase. Yes its got very little friction to the point where it will move when not even on track but it's almost to a fault. It's much harder to feel those dense deep transitions where the wheelbase almost feels like it gets into a groove and yanks you or feels extremely dense when turning in you feel that skip angle and the grip and you feel it grabbing then letting go grabbing then letting go then snaps back so fast. This wheelbase feels lacking compared to others thats all. I even like there t818 way more. One day I so hope they send you the t818 you will understand what I'm saying then. That wheelbase may still be a bit cheaper made then other dd wheelbases but omg its ffb is absolutely incredible. Please ask them to send you the t818 it will blow your mind and you will notice the things its lacking compared to how a dd should feel. I hope these motors do not become a trend because dd wheelbases are smooth enough they don't need to be completely frictionless. Tbh most want a little bit. But yeah its just inherent flaws with this motor imo. @@thecasualracinggamer
They shouldn't have released the damn thing. I remember people switching from TGT2 to fanatec dd 5nm, the difference was night and day. Yes DD is a must over belt drives, smoother, you feel more detail etc... I'm going to switch from Thrusmaster to Logitec gpro or fanatec.
Thats is a huge disapoint looks like thrustmaster was and still will be behind in evolution from wheels its sad but true... If we want to be competetive in playstation and gt7 the only to upgrade from tgt2 is go fanatec and if we on lower thrustmaster its better go fanatec then buy tgt2
LOL. People are competitive on G29s. Even controllers. It had nothing to do with being competitive. Fanatec doesn't offer anything close to what the T598 can deliver in that price range. Their 5nm DD wheel kit is a couple hundred dollars more then the T598.
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I bought the 8NM Fanatec bundle for 480 pounds, wheelbase, wheel rim and pedals. Its great.
Nice deal
do people just never include the price of shipping....
if i get a product for 10 dollars but the shipping is 350 dollars did i really get the product for 10 dollars?
Prolly got it used@@caliginousmoira8565
@@caliginousmoira8565 Mine was 480 pounds delivered including shipping from EU to UK
@@thecasualracinggamer I notice the Thrustmaster is a comparable price. We are spoilt for choice nowadays.
They need to make a mixture of both wheels. Direct axial drive combined with all the technology out of the t gt 2.
Yes - what I was hoping. 8NM DAD with T-dfb.
Have my t598 set up a few days ago. Perfectly happy with it and I think most average drivers and even "semi pro-s" would be happy to drive this. When more updates come it will only improve.
Thank you! I was waiting for this comparison!
I think sometimes people over complicate things. 95 % of peolle are not chasing that final 1 % improvement ...for me. Thrustmaster for all the compatability and add ons is your best choice for the semi serious casual. But they are all excellent
Hey casual, subscribed to you when you made your first open box for the T598, I bought the T598 when it first came out as well and definitely agree to your opinions then, but now I think after the firmware update….its amazing! Came from g29, t598 was still better, like going from N64 controller to PS5 haptic feedback technology, light years away. This wheel will only get better appreciate your honesty, I think TM listened to your opinion and improved it because of your feedback. Cheers to your channels success!
It feels like a completely different wheel after the update.
I enjoy your videos and I appreciate your honesty- very cool.
Thank you
Thank you
Ive got the original TGT wheel still working great ( except for the original wheel rim). I will see what happens in the new year
what happened to your og wheel rim, died?
@@1cerecordsyes
Until GT7 has official support for the T598 you cannot really make a call.
I can definitely make the call that the wheel improved in GT7 after the firmware update, and we can only speak to how the wheel performs today. Not how it will perform if this or that happens in the future.
@thecasualracinggamer I agree. I just hope to see an update when/if they officially support it in GT7.
@thecasualracinggamer I meant the generic "you". Not, you can't have a preference. I was very interested to see your preference.
GT7 still does not support the T598? Does it recognise it as a different Thrustmaster wheel?
I hope they keep adding weight to the wheel and to have the T-DFB effents through harmony would be nice. I do still suspect the heat is limiting factor here. They also could just make the base longer and add second DD rotor to the axle.. would be 10nm T898..😊
Good comparison. Having driven with T-GT since 2018 I know exactly what you are talking about. For reference - what settings do you use with T-GT2? Just that I know to what strenght you are comparing the t598 to. I use FFB strenght ar 6-7 in race cars. Anything more just strains my hands and wrists unnecessarily over time. Also a statement to the power of T-GT - the force there is no joke. And i kind of feel the belt drive actually makes the ffb feel more "real". We are after all talking about forces that RUBBER tires have, so belt makes them just natural.
I've actually been lowering my T-GT II from around a 6-7 to a 4-5. Once you get to 7, I feel like you are starting to fight the wheel turning. The T-GT II just offers a different resistance feeling than the T598 that just feels stronger when you have grip and had an extreme opposite feeling when you lose it. It's more extreme than the T-GT II, but after the update, the T598 is well improved in its feeling.
@thecasualracinggamer so T598 is weaker than T-GT2 at 4-5..😬 Seems I have to keep waiting for a new base. Its been quite a wait already.
It will also depend on the wheel. I can push the EVO 32R to 6-7 and it feels good. The open wheel feels better at a lower number.
I have just started to watch your latest video on how the evo r wheel erased the t598 feeling of the wheel and just when you started to explain it said the video is not available. Why did you take it down or have you figured out the problem with different wheels on the t598? I have just bought the ferrari 488 gt3 wheel and I must say it is by far the best wheel on my t-gt ii and I have like 15 different wheels, including custom mods to fit fanatec and momo wheels. It really makes the t-gt ii feel like a far more refined and sturdy quality package with zero creaking with the ferrari 488 gt3 wheel. I really recommend you try it out and see for yourself. Cheers from Slovenia, EU
Lol Same here, where's the video?
I'm going to post something now on my community tab.
Anyone who watches you regularly should know better than to question your honesty, there are to many people that assume DD has to be better than a belt driven wheel, which yes in entry level wheels should be the case. But the tgtii is not entry level it has a lot of other tech built in that people forget about especially the t-linear feedback. Also a real car steering is not a simple shaft to motor so isn't necessarily as good as replicating a real life scenario where we have rubber mouted ball joints, rubber tyres, suspension that all transmits through the wheel. There is an argument that a belt is more likely to replicate some of those frictions and responses more accurately. What DD should give you in theory though is more consistency through both replicating the exact same feeling every time through both less parts to source and less susceptible to heat build up causing changes. Although the tgtii is less susceptible than lower end belt driven wheels. So I'd argue having tried a fanatec DD pro, id likely be more consistent but its less immersive than a tgtii.. And as you are a Casual Racer in VR, you probably already have one of the most immersive combinations with the tgtii and its transducer.
I don't think I have heard many people who actually used a T-GT II say anything bad about it. I don't know how you can. The wheel performs extremely well. Even if someone bought a higher end DD wheel, they still usually say how good the T-GT II was.
@@thecasualracinggamer I wasn't implying anything bad about the tgtii, quite the opposite I think it feels more realistic than any DD wheel I tried that's why I have it 🤣🤣 just in theory you should be more consistent with direct drive.
LOL. I know.. I was agreeing with you on how good of a wheel it is.
@@thecasualracinggamer I read the " I don't know how you can" as I don't know how YOU can as in me 🤣.. I was thinking jeeez how did he take that as a negative 🤔 sensitive Cas 🤣🤣🤣 so easy to read things differently
Haha. It was a general statement, meaning I don't known how anyone can. Of course I know you love the T-GT II.
Great review Really good i have the tswx for pc but dam I have ps5 also with gt7 I wnat to get something for gt7 I think to just get the gt2 base I think 🤔 that is best option as much as I wnat a direct drive and one day I go for the t818 😊
On EA sports wrc t598 Is waaay more precise than the tgt2. Cons: car feels too much weightless in slow corners
Do you have the ferrari 488 challenger wheel ? Do the lights work for gt7?
I don't have that wheel.
@@thecasualracinggamerhey i need your help , i just got this wheel from your reviews one question .
is it normal to feel when turning at high speeds like the belt is sliping on the wheel? Its My first wheel so i dont knowing that detail of the tires slipping on the road or the wheel is defective
hi, based on your videos, I bought the TGT2 a week ago, and I have a question coming from the t500rs My T500rs fan was not always on, not sure if it is normal, but the TGT2 fan is constantly on is that normal or is something wrong with my TGT2? should I be sending it back? basically, it comes on after a few minutes in-game and stays on thanks in advance
Yes, it's normal for the fan to stay on when using the wheel.
@@thecasualracinggamer Thank you for the quick reply I was not sure as my t500 takes a bit of time come on that's all thanks again.
If you had to buy one tomorrow which would you go for?
With the way the T598 feels after the update, I think people will really like it, and it's a great buy for the price. I think most casual racers will be completely satisfied.
If you were looking to spend more money and had nothing, I might look at the Fanatec 8nm DD, which will be priced close to the T-GT II. If Thrustmaster offered an upgrade kit for the T598 to make it 8nm for, let's say, another 100-150 dollars, it would have made this wheel an absolute buy for anyone.
If u know how to update the firmware with a Mac, please share. I will always wish I could experience the transducer though. That alone seems like such a game changer!
I'm not sure if it's available to update on a Mac.
TGT II will always be the king of Belt driven system. Looking at all your reviews so far you definitely don't sound 100% happy with the T598, I think this base is just an Overhyped by TM. They should offer that T598 by only the base as well. I hear it's happening next year but coming from TM crazy prices might be a standalone base for $300 bucks but probably it's going to be more. I also have a feeling they going to came out with another stronger base following the same DAD concept probably when they offer the load cell new pedal. I'm going to stick to my TGT II until this wheel gets fully supported on console. I don't play GT7 or GT sport, I'm looking to use the T598 with other titles like AC, F1, PROJECT CARS and more. I'm so curious to know how the wheel is performing with other games rather than only playing GT7. Not many youtubers reviewing other games 😞 eventually with time I guess.
great review like always man! don't pay attention much of people has to say, express whatever you feel like to, in the end is your channel and people will still look at your reviews. Funny that TM is paying attention so much cuz they know that base is not ready and you're hitting them hard 😂
cheers!
I can definitely say I'm happier with the T598 now than I was before. Happy enough to keep it as my main and give it more playing time.
@ so it’s good to upgraded then…
@ckframes Have some new findings I'll be putting out in a video today. Some might care, some might not.
@@thecasualracinggamer amazing man! Can’t wait to check out your findings! 🔥🔥
What are your in game setting max torque and force feedback sensitivity just curious
Torque was either at 5 or 6 and sensitivity at 1.
@ i was running 10 and it still felt too soft but I’m starting to think I was over heating it I turned it down and it seemed to help a little. Thanks for the reply
Been using my t gt2 and reverted back to my t300 and it actually felt refreshing and smooth without all the extra immersion from my tgt2 .
Could zone in on pure driving control.
Its a hard call on this subject as it is subjective, seating position pedals all play their part.
Thanks for your great videos really does help.👌🏽
Quick question what degree of rotation do you use on your tgt2 ,
I'm using 180 with open wheel. 😮
Interesting take. Not sure I have seen people go in that direction. The transducer should actual help with feeling things better but it is something you can turn off if you didn't like it. I just let the game handle the rotation degree. I don't change it.
Belt driven has a better feel and whatever than DD wheel.... Ya not buying that...
It's definitely a different feeling between them.
good feedback is good feedback. because it's a dd wheel it automatically makes all ffb goated?
it's gotta be the shoes
I bought a t gt 2 and I have a question if your fan is also so loud ? it starts almost immediately. I play without headphones on my home theater, so it's quite annoying
I don't find it overly loud.
You deleted the video about different wheel with t598??
Check my community post. That sums up really everything I wanted to say.
Still on TG2 here…
🙏
luv the T818
The new one looks really cheaply made. Terrible wheel and pedals and a house sized base. Worse DD ever imo
So even so the tgt2 still better and if we compare with fanatec then is lights years to be competetive with fanatec
Depends what you call competitive, im often in top 50>150 in VR if i actually get a couple of evenings to do dailies always follow the ghost with the top time that often has thrustmaster tgtii logo's on. And until gt7 sold out to fanatec, which is likely to fall short due to fanatec bad press and poor customer service, the tgtii was the GTWS tour wheel they all used. So just asuming as its belt driven and not DD makes it non competitive is not true. Those top times are often grinded for hours and day's whatever the wheel.
Not sure what you mean. Pretty sure the T598 would be on par with the 5nm Fanatec or even better delivering 5nm of constant torque with overshoot capabilities. Of course, it won't deliver the power of the 8nm. I also think the T-GT II would be stronger than the Fanatec 5 Nm DD.
@@clacky78wait you can see what wheels drivers are using on ghost replays? And are they still using the tgt2 for the gt world series as the official wheel?
@1cerecords no I have seen it on the decals quite often on there liveries. And no Fanatec bought the rights from the last world series. But Sony and polyphony are pretty hot on image so all the fanatec bad press wont have gone unnoticed.
The final opinion of the final opinion. Dude what's going on here ? From the perspective of one of your viewers this seems a little fishy. Delete videos. Re do videos. Having the need to keep explaining yourself. Someone who is certain doesn't behave like this. It makes you look unreliable
No, it makes me look truthful. I honestly don't have a solid grasp on the T598. One day, I think it feels good, and then the next day, I'm like, what is going on with this thing. I am kinda torn on the wheel. I will tell you what I'm not torn on. The T-GT II has been solid from day one, and I never questioned the positive experience I have had with it.
Also, please explain what you mean by fishy, and don't tell me you think Thrustmaster is messaging me and telling me to pull videos down, LOL. I have 4K subscribers. If they paid that much attention to me, I'd be the biggest small channel out there.
As for unreliable. I can be like big channels, tell you how good the wheel is, never actually use it after an initial review, and never try it again after updates. If you look at that as reliable, your right. I'm not your guy for that.
Imo tgt ii will always win between these. To many corners cut. To much of a budget motor in the t598 and then over hyped and over apld by them with there sales pitch. But man oh man is it a cheaply made system and the motor. I get it frictionless but dude you need some for the loading and unloading feel to grab you and go hey don't do this or that. I just hate thw way the t598 feels. But I have alot of experience with dd wheelbases so maybe that's why idk.
I don't think the base feels cheap at all. I also think the wheel is way more alive now in GT7 than it was before. Way more enjoyable to use now.
@thecasualracinggamer well the inirtia is supposed to fight the wheel going back. What's its supposed to do is help something in motion stay in motion in the seme direction so when its pulling you back it should fight it more. That will help the loading and unloading feeling even if thrustmasted explained inirtia backwards lol. They go inirtia makes wheel harder to turn in haha. I'm like that's not inirtia. Inirtia is the use of something like a heavier wheel so when you go in one direction it feels like it wants to keep moving in that direction and is meant to not change direction or fight the change of direction. Which could yes give the effect that the wheel fights you more. But they explained it way wrong.
@thecasualracinggamer well need to get you some more dd wheelbases in hand so you can see why I say it feels cheap. It even feels 2x cheaper then the csl dd pro does imo. Which has very little plastic mostly metal. Also usually brands when using plastic its a carbon and glass mix not just the generic cheap plastic thrustmatser uses. You can fele it to the touch. Most plastics used by brands in this field are higher end feeling a nice softness like cf feels jnstwad of hard to the touch. The plastic overall is hard but there is a texture to good vs bad plastic. Lol
@reviewforthetube6485 So the base itself is not plastic, and it's quite heavy. If you are talking about the rim, yeah, the plastic they used on it is complete garbage.
The face of the base is plastic. Also open it up and look at the internals it looks ok but the hardware used is very very inexpensive which is why they made this for budget buyers. Then they oversold it as if its this new tech that's gonna be so much better then other dd wheels and thats just so false. This was marketing and it was made for budget sim racing and its 100% at that lower level. It does not have a premium feel in any way. All dd have some weight so don't let the weight confuse you in quality. I just do not like it. I've used alot of dd wheelbases and this is not a good dd wheelbase. Yes its got very little friction to the point where it will move when not even on track but it's almost to a fault. It's much harder to feel those dense deep transitions where the wheelbase almost feels like it gets into a groove and yanks you or feels extremely dense when turning in you feel that skip angle and the grip and you feel it grabbing then letting go grabbing then letting go then snaps back so fast. This wheelbase feels lacking compared to others thats all. I even like there t818 way more. One day I so hope they send you the t818 you will understand what I'm saying then. That wheelbase may still be a bit cheaper made then other dd wheelbases but omg its ffb is absolutely incredible. Please ask them to send you the t818 it will blow your mind and you will notice the things its lacking compared to how a dd should feel. I hope these motors do not become a trend because dd wheelbases are smooth enough they don't need to be completely frictionless. Tbh most want a little bit. But yeah its just inherent flaws with this motor imo. @@thecasualracinggamer
They shouldn't have released the damn thing. I remember people switching from TGT2 to fanatec dd 5nm, the difference was night and day. Yes DD is a must over belt drives, smoother, you feel more detail etc... I'm going to switch from Thrusmaster to Logitec gpro or fanatec.
Why should they not have released it?
Thats is a huge disapoint looks like thrustmaster was and still will be behind in evolution from wheels its sad but true... If we want to be competetive in playstation and gt7 the only to upgrade from tgt2 is go fanatec and if we on lower thrustmaster its better go fanatec then buy tgt2
LOL. People are competitive on G29s. Even controllers. It had nothing to do with being competitive. Fanatec doesn't offer anything close to what the T598 can deliver in that price range. Their 5nm DD wheel kit is a couple hundred dollars more then the T598.