Installation of a new OEM clutch in a Yamaha YZ450f. Should be about the same from 2011 to current. Donate Race Fuel link... www.paypal.com... Thanks for watching! upallnight91@hotmail.com
Applause meter is pegged! this is a great video. Quick, thorough, easy to understand. No wobbly camera. Good lighting, good sound. Knowledge is top drawer!. thanks!!
I hate how a simple job turns into a shtmess for me everytime. Was going good until one of the clutch spring bolts head snapped right off after barely getting any resistance. I guess I'm glad it didnt happen after i closed it all up. But ordering 6 more bolts, $40
Thanks for the great video! Replaced my clutch recently with the your guide as help :) However, is it normal to have a fair amount of drag on a newly changed clutch? I've got a WR450F from 2016.
@@UpAllNight91 While pushing the bike (engine hot or cold) in gear, holding the clutch lever in, you feel that the clutch is still engaging. The rear tyre doesn't drag on asphalt but definitely would on gravel. With the engine running, bike in first gear and clutch in, the bike rolls in walking pace. I have no problems with stalling during takeoff or while changing gears. Another noticeable thing is that I can't get it into neutral when it's running.
@@vossenzwe7637 Yeah thats a lot of drag. I have seen some aftermarket plates that can do this. I have also seen this happen when the steal plates where reused. Usually if all fiber and steal are OEM and new it usually comes out as good as a new bike.
@@vossenzwe7637 Yeah that is strange. Maybe open her back up and check everything out. Check make sure the nut in the middle that holds the clutch basket on is good and tight, and all the plates where put in properly. Double check for basket and hub wear and stuff like that.
Thanks! The yz450 takes about 850cc of oil to reach the oil level check bolt. As you may know, the glass window is a low level window and it even says low right beside it. But 850 cc of oil will get you right to the full check bolt and it where I suggest running it. These oil filters on these bikes drain most of thier oil out and back to the bottom of the motor if the motor has been sitting for a few hours. 850cc is good with both changing the filter and not, as long as its been sitting for a few hours
Hey so on the 2021 yz250f on the clutch plates they have 3 groves around each clutch plate. I’m not sure if you have worked on a yz250 yet but if you have are they all supposed to be lined up with each other. On the 450s they don’t have the 3 groves on the fiber plates
Yes I have. The grooves on the very end of the fiber plates do not need to be lined up. They really don't do anything. But I have OCD and like to line them up when installing clutch just because it looks good lol
Your welcome. Its totally ok to use a torque wrench on them bolts and nut. Just be sure to follow the manual on the torque specs. You will need to lock it in from spinning while torqued though.
@@ogloc119 Depends who you ask lol. I'm not even kidding you either. Some people get upset if you dont use a torque wrench on every single bolt no matter how much experience you have. If you trust your hands you will be ok doing it by hand. The bolts for the clutch springs dont need to be too tight or you can snap the clutch inner hub, and the center nut is kinda thin so too much torque is not good for it but it does need a fair amount of torque to hold well.
i broke one of my clutch spring bolts today hand tightening them... after inspecting my clutch it looks like it got a little warm and some of the plates got burnt im assuming the bolt was weakened by becoming hot at one point. all i could think of.
Hello, thanks for the video. I have a 2011 and bought oem clutch kit and just ripped open all bags of friction plates and soaked the over night and randomly put all friction plates on and metal plates w/o the grooved end toward motor. after resembled everything the bike doesn't disengage all the way with clutch pulled in. so after throwing away all bags the friction plates came in is there a way to tell which plates are which? I also tried adjusting cable and it is all the way out and tried prying (gently) the clutch lever on the motor and it won't pull in anymore so i'm assuming the order of friction plates and the beveled edge towards motor is crucial??? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
Hello. I think if you measure the thickness of the fiber plates with a micrometer there is a measurable difference between the ones with different part numbers. But even if you got that wrong, as long as its fiber, steal, fiber arrangement it should at least work. Because yours is not disengaging I'm guessing there's more wrong inside there than just fibers out of arrangement. I would pull the clutch back out. Try to measure them and get the arrangement right, then reinstall. After installing clutch plates but before putting the clutch cover back on, adjust the clutch lever and pull the clutch in while observing the clutch pressure plate. Does the plate raise up off the clutch stack a millimeter or two while pulling in the lever? If so you should be good, if not then something is missing or not right in the clutch push rod/pressure plate area, check again
Hey man, when I pull my clutch lever in my bike won’t roll, any clue what I’d need to do to fix it? Bike was drowned and doesn’t run currently trying to get everything figured out before I try starting it up, TIA
Hello. The clutches could have some rust on the steal plates. But I would get her running again first and try riding it and see if it improves. Sometimes the clutch plates can clean up after a ride and be ok.
@@UpAllNight91hey man one more question replaced all the plates exactly how you did in the video and now my clutch lever has no tension even when completely tightened. Any clue what this might be? Thanks
@@YaBoyCoye Ok. Your going to need to take it back apart and check everything. It could be missing the little ball bearing that goes down the center shaft (it can fall out while doing the job and easily gets lost). Recheck everything and put it back together but before you put the cover back on, pull the clutch lever and verify its lifting the pressure plate.
Yes sir. I have seen the 5th gear dogs get worn and slip. It shifts into the gear and can handle light throttles but as soon as real power is put though it, it feels like a fat slip. If all other gears are good, it can surely be the trans unfortunately
Hey im looking for some advice on a 12 yfz450 carb version. I did a top end rebuild and the clutch engaged when it blew up and now it wont engage. I pull in the lever in when in 1st gear or any gear and the qaud wont move freely. Any advice what may be the problem? Thanks
@UpAllNight91 yeah when it's running and shut off if I pull the clutch in while in gear it won't roll freely . It feels like it always has honestly. Would clutch plates cause that? I replaced the cable so that's eliminated
@@timothyvandrei4236 Hello. Most bikes are like that and its normal. As long as it doesnt creep when its running in gear with the clutch in , then your good.
Hey man i know this isnt the yz450 piston video. But ive got like 70 hard hours on my 2021 and plan to do my piston, timing chain, and tensioner. What else do you reccommend i do at the same time? I just shimmed my valves for the first time ever bike runs top notch just wanna stay on top of er
Hello. At 70 hours. A new piston, timing chain, spark plug, and the gaskets is really all thats needed to freshen her up. Most likely everything in there will be looking good but its a good inspection of the crank as well.
Thanks man im not sure why it posted my comment twice haha i did the piston assembly and timing chain and tensioner and there was only a few very tiny up and down scratches on the skirt on ome side of the piston. Probably could have gone a lot longer but i feel better 5th gear pinned now lol
@@brapbrapmafucka right on. And peace of mind is what I look for too. Knowing the crank is good and a fresh top end means the world when I'm in-flight lol
Hey man i know this isnt the yz450 piston video. But ive got like 70 hard hours on my 2021 and plan to do my piston, timing chain, and tensioner. What else do you reccommend i do at the same time? I just shimmed my valves for the first time ever bike runs top notch just wanna stay on top of er
Hello. A piston kit, timing chain, spark plug, and all gaskets is all thats needed at 70 hours. The stock piston has a good piston pin thats coated. Its a good piston
Im on my like 4th plug i just swapped that few hours ago lol i was wondering what my guides will look like theyre pricy for what they are at least the tensioner side is
Applause meter is pegged! this is a great video. Quick, thorough, easy to understand. No wobbly camera. Good lighting, good sound. Knowledge is top drawer!. thanks!!
Thanks man!
its so annoying how much the clutch rattles. im sure thats why that guy wanted to replace all of that.
I appreciate this video so I subbed.
@@DirtRaider450 thank you! Appreciate ya!
@@UpAllNight91 right in the middle of doing this job first time. You made it easy. I appreciate you bro!
@@DirtRaider450 Right on! Hope it all turned out well.
Amazing.
Thanks!
I hate how a simple job turns into a shtmess for me everytime. Was going good until one of the clutch spring bolts head snapped right off after barely getting any resistance. I guess I'm glad it didnt happen after i closed it all up. But ordering 6 more bolts, $40
Eww man, thats a bummer
Thanks for the great video! Replaced my clutch recently with the your guide as help :)
However, is it normal to have a fair amount of drag on a newly changed clutch? I've got a WR450F from 2016.
Hello. Is the drag with a running motor or when the motor is turned off?
@@UpAllNight91 While pushing the bike (engine hot or cold) in gear, holding the clutch lever in, you feel that the clutch is still engaging. The rear tyre doesn't drag on asphalt but definitely would on gravel.
With the engine running, bike in first gear and clutch in, the bike rolls in walking pace. I have no problems with stalling during takeoff or while changing gears. Another noticeable thing is that I can't get it into neutral when it's running.
@@vossenzwe7637 Yeah thats a lot of drag. I have seen some aftermarket plates that can do this. I have also seen this happen when the steal plates where reused. Usually if all fiber and steal are OEM and new it usually comes out as good as a new bike.
@@UpAllNight91 Yeah, that's what surprises me. As I've bought all the fibers and steel new OEM from Yamaha :/
@@vossenzwe7637 Yeah that is strange. Maybe open her back up and check everything out. Check make sure the nut in the middle that holds the clutch basket on is good and tight, and all the plates where put in properly. Double check for basket and hub wear and stuff like that.
Hello, I accidentally removed the clutch cover and all the oil came out, how do I put new oil in the clutch?
i have a yz450f 2012
Hello. Its no different than changing your oil. I would just drop the motor oil and refill back to proper amount.
Top video mate how much oil does it take yz 450 2021 with filter and with no filter in mls cheers 😊
Thanks! The yz450 takes about 850cc of oil to reach the oil level check bolt. As you may know, the glass window is a low level window and it even says low right beside it. But 850 cc of oil will get you right to the full check bolt and it where I suggest running it. These oil filters on these bikes drain most of thier oil out and back to the bottom of the motor if the motor has been sitting for a few hours. 850cc is good with both changing the filter and not, as long as its been sitting for a few hours
I usually dip them, but I’ve also had luck doing them dry too.
Right on!
Hey so on the 2021 yz250f on the clutch plates they have 3 groves around each clutch plate. I’m not sure if you have worked on a yz250 yet but if you have are they all supposed to be lined up with each other. On the 450s they don’t have the 3 groves on the fiber plates
Yes I have. The grooves on the very end of the fiber plates do not need to be lined up. They really don't do anything. But I have OCD and like to line them up when installing clutch just because it looks good lol
@@UpAllNight91 wow I didn’t know that😂, thank you for clarifying that for me
Is it Possible to run Hinson steel/friction plates on a OEM basket?
Hello. Yes the hinson plates do work in the OEM basket and hub.
Great video dude!
Thanks man!
What happens if the motor spends?
I'm sorry, I don't understand what your question is. Do you mean if the clutch spins as your working on it?
Thanks for the video! Curious, is it OK to now use a torque wrench on the clutch basket bolts and the nut? I'm lost
Your welcome. Its totally ok to use a torque wrench on them bolts and nut. Just be sure to follow the manual on the torque specs. You will need to lock it in from spinning while torqued though.
@@UpAllNight91 thanks for replying. But is it necessary? Or should I just do it normally? Cheers
@@ogloc119 Depends who you ask lol. I'm not even kidding you either. Some people get upset if you dont use a torque wrench on every single bolt no matter how much experience you have. If you trust your hands you will be ok doing it by hand. The bolts for the clutch springs dont need to be too tight or you can snap the clutch inner hub, and the center nut is kinda thin so too much torque is not good for it but it does need a fair amount of torque to hold well.
NICE WORK!
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Thanks brother. Welcome aboard!
i broke one of my clutch spring bolts today hand tightening them... after inspecting my clutch it looks like it got a little warm and some of the plates got burnt im assuming the bolt was weakened by becoming hot at one point. all i could think of.
Eww, bummer.
Hello, thanks for the video. I have a 2011 and bought oem clutch kit and just ripped open all bags of friction plates and soaked the over night and randomly put all friction plates on and metal plates w/o the grooved end toward motor. after resembled everything the bike doesn't disengage all the way with clutch pulled in. so after throwing away all bags the friction plates came in is there a way to tell which plates are which? I also tried adjusting cable and it is all the way out and tried prying (gently) the clutch lever on the motor and it won't pull in anymore so i'm assuming the order of friction plates and the beveled edge towards motor is crucial??? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
Hello. I think if you measure the thickness of the fiber plates with a micrometer there is a measurable difference between the ones with different part numbers. But even if you got that wrong, as long as its fiber, steal, fiber arrangement it should at least work. Because yours is not disengaging I'm guessing there's more wrong inside there than just fibers out of arrangement. I would pull the clutch back out. Try to measure them and get the arrangement right, then reinstall. After installing clutch plates but before putting the clutch cover back on, adjust the clutch lever and pull the clutch in while observing the clutch pressure plate. Does the plate raise up off the clutch stack a millimeter or two while pulling in the lever? If so you should be good, if not then something is missing or not right in the clutch push rod/pressure plate area, check again
Hey man, when I pull my clutch lever in my bike won’t roll, any clue what I’d need to do to fix it? Bike was drowned and doesn’t run currently trying to get everything figured out before I try starting it up, TIA
Hello. The clutches could have some rust on the steal plates. But I would get her running again first and try riding it and see if it improves. Sometimes the clutch plates can clean up after a ride and be ok.
@@UpAllNight91hey man one more question replaced all the plates exactly how you did in the video and now my clutch lever has no tension even when completely tightened. Any clue what this might be? Thanks
@@YaBoyCoye Hello. did this happen immediately after replace the clutches or is this something that happen after riding with the new clutches?
@@UpAllNight91 right after replacing them
@@YaBoyCoye Ok. Your going to need to take it back apart and check everything. It could be missing the little ball bearing that goes down the center shaft (it can fall out while doing the job and easily gets lost). Recheck everything and put it back together but before you put the cover back on, pull the clutch lever and verify its lifting the pressure plate.
There should be oil in the clutch case when u opened it up right?
Yes. I mentioned at the beginning that I have already drained the oil. Thats why you didn't see oil come out when I removed the cover
@@UpAllNight91 ohhh I missed that part 👍
@@TylerDylan21 no worries. I snuck it in fast early on, easy to miss lol
Got any theorys on why my 06 yz450f slips in 5th checked the clutch looks brand new doesn't seem like it would be the chain hoping teeth
Yes sir. I have seen the 5th gear dogs get worn and slip. It shifts into the gear and can handle light throttles but as soon as real power is put though it, it feels like a fat slip. If all other gears are good, it can surely be the trans unfortunately
@UpAllNight91 yeah that makes sense thats going to be pricey. You're a legend for replying subbed
Yes sir.
Hey im looking for some advice on a 12 yfz450 carb version. I did a top end rebuild and the clutch engaged when it blew up and now it wont engage. I pull in the lever in when in 1st gear or any gear and the qaud wont move freely. Any advice what may be the problem? Thanks
You mean with you pull the lever in and the quad is not running, it doesnt roll freely? How does the clutch feel when its running? Does it work ok?
@UpAllNight91 yeah when it's running and shut off if I pull the clutch in while in gear it won't roll freely . It feels like it always has honestly. Would clutch plates cause that? I replaced the cable so that's eliminated
@@timothyvandrei4236 Hello. Most bikes are like that and its normal. As long as it doesnt creep when its running in gear with the clutch in , then your good.
Please do a timing chain video for the same bike ❤
Hello. In the video linked below I do a top end on the YZ450F and also the timing chain. th-cam.com/video/4KJ7z6PvItM/w-d-xo.html
Hey what site did you use to Oder the plates and spring oem please
Hello. I ordered them from... www.rockymountainatvmc.com/
@@UpAllNight91 thanks! We need a video on clutch cable adjustents looking all over for a video can’t find any (Yz450f)
@@yung2389 thats a good idea actually. Hmm, I will make a short on that maybe today or tomorrow.
Hey man i know this isnt the yz450 piston video. But ive got like 70 hard hours on my 2021 and plan to do my piston, timing chain, and tensioner. What else do you reccommend i do at the same time? I just shimmed my valves for the first time ever bike runs top notch just wanna stay on top of er
Hello. At 70 hours. A new piston, timing chain, spark plug, and the gaskets is really all thats needed to freshen her up. Most likely everything in there will be looking good but its a good inspection of the crank as well.
Thanks man im not sure why it posted my comment twice haha i did the piston assembly and timing chain and tensioner and there was only a few very tiny up and down scratches on the skirt on ome side of the piston. Probably could have gone a lot longer but i feel better 5th gear pinned now lol
@@brapbrapmafucka right on. And peace of mind is what I look for too. Knowing the crank is good and a fresh top end means the world when I'm in-flight lol
Or 5th gear wheelie down the highway away from the fuzz
Hey man i know this isnt the yz450 piston video. But ive got like 70 hard hours on my 2021 and plan to do my piston, timing chain, and tensioner. What else do you reccommend i do at the same time? I just shimmed my valves for the first time ever bike runs top notch just wanna stay on top of er
Hello. A piston kit, timing chain, spark plug, and all gaskets is all thats needed at 70 hours. The stock piston has a good piston pin thats coated. Its a good piston
Im on my like 4th plug i just swapped that few hours ago lol i was wondering what my guides will look like theyre pricy for what they are at least the tensioner side is
I hold er flush a lot so i wouldnt be surprised if piston skirt has some wear
@@brapbrapmafucka the guides usually last a really long time as long as the chain stays healthy.
@@brapbrapmafucka I do my 450 every 60 hours