I've been poor and near homeless for many decades, marriage and children seem unlikely for me, I appreciate the church and people still getting married snd having kids, poverty is both a blessing and curse
I have played married for 8 years. We have a 6 year old girl. I recently left to get a new home and remain in chastity with her for 4 months while studying Orthodoxy. I bought a new bed for myself so it will remain pure until we can both be baptized in the Orthodox Church and be married. I want my home to be our home and an extension of the kingdom of heaven. Forgive me Jesus Christ Son of the Most High God for I am a sinner. Please pray for us Father Josiah.
Good job, Sean! You are doing the right thing! May God help you and may other people who have a similar situation follow your example! Lord have mercy!
My wife and I were married in the church last month. We came into the church together and struggled to live Godly lives up till our marriage. Now that we are married and our relationship is put in its correct orientation towards God, we have never been more happy and filled with love for one another. Glory to God! ☦️
I would love to be married but i know i am not where i need to be as a person to be worthy to have a wife and a family. May the Lord Christ make me worthy as a man to produce, provide and protect a family. Amen
You are not alone in such a situation. God bless you! Ww3 is up ahead we have other bigger problems right now . Image if we die on some field like so many other poor men before us . Only his will be done ! Who am I anyway?
@@write2rule5 we had an entirely secular marriage, just paperwork getting done through the county clerk, I want our marriage to be sanctified by God in the Orthodox Church. Whatever that looks like
This makes me emotional. I pray God will bring someone into my life to be crowned with in the beautiful Orthodox church. Since childhood, this union and door to family has been the utmost desire of my heart. I often despair that it will not come to pass. But it is God’s will and I hope the time is yet to come.
Orthodox Christianity is beyond words beautiful and amazing! I am still stunned at the awesomeness of the Holy Orthodox Church and my husband and I converted two Orthodox Christianity 17 years ago! Becoming an Orthodox Christian is the best decision ever! ❤️
As someone who is in his late 30s and lost his hope to ever getting married, this was a very hard video to listen to. I envy those who found someone who is willing to spend their life by their spouse.
Don't give up, man. Marriage is eternal and this brief life is just the beginning. Someone is out there for you. Just keep repenting and working on bettering yourself a little each day. Eventually the Lord will bless you and find you a helper.
My dad passed in 2017. My mum who is 85 this yr will be buried with both crowns because it was hard enough losing her spouse of close to 55yrs. Normally when one spouse dies the ribbon is cut and one crown goes with the deceased spouse. That’s what i have been told in the past. Others just get rid of them altogether. In the old days there were real crowns that stayed in the church and everyone was married with the same crowns. By leaving them in the church all marriages were constantly blessed and prayed for. I dont know which i would prefer but an orthodox wedding is full of spiritual rites and ceremony.
Hi! I have never heard of keeping the crowns, however they may look. In Romania the crowns are always kept at church and used for marriage, just like you said. The only "crown" that is kept (and has a different name, a variation of the term "crown") is the one made of flowers which is held by the beaid on her head and is part of her "accessories". (This one, unfortunately, tends to disappear due to Western influences.)
@@eeaotly The greek orthodox church does not use the proper crowns anymore, they use fake flower ones with a white ribbon attaching the two crowns. We take those with us. It’s a shame really keeping the proper crowns in a church is far better i think.
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What a beautiful tradition. I so hoped to find a Christian wife and start a family. That was apparently not in the cards for me. I have to admit feelings of jealousy while watching this.
Overrated. U can never do enough for a woman. What have you done lately. That’s there Mantra. Plus the church is in bed with the state so when she gets bored she takes everything. Yet the church is silent on this. Should be able to marry without the state.
@matthill4406 most men and women don't like truth, read the Bible very few good people exist in general both men snd women because of there incoherent worldview and belief system
@@starstray4326 Hahahaha! I'm 54. Good luck finding a TERRIBLE woman who is available, much less a good one. I've tried everything I know. At this point it's going to have to be divine intervention, or nothing. It's looking like nothing.
Anyone else hear this message and think wow this is a beautiful message but wrestle with the thought of being married in the culture we currently live in?
You just have to find a woman who thinks the way you do It’s easy since you have a man as a profile’ s picture I guess you are a man I am single woman and I go to a church that is 90% single Eastern European orthodox women, I guess a orthodox man could simply come and chose one…
@@josephcarlson7276aren’t there any good believers and cute Orthodox single women at your local Orthodox Church? Churches are usually full of women and they are usually hardcore believers if they are Orthodox (they are usually no woke, no feminists, have an Eastern European traditional heritage etc)
Please come visit us in the UK or in London, specifically, Fr. Josiah! You have so much grace to share that could edify our communities on this side of the world, and you are much loved. Thank you for all that you do, may God keep you and your family safe.
i have been married for 39 years ups and downs 2 sons now retired i love going to dsily mass when possible and importantly dairy rosaries which are the spiritual weapon for daily battle and being givendsily blessings❤
Ive always wanted to be a husband but i fear i never will be able to. Dating is hard enough but being orrhodox makes it even harder since most women in my area are protestant and see orthodoxy as cultish or too rigid
Meet a protestant girl and around the 3rd date when the conversation gets more serious invite her to a service. It is a huge opportunity to explain to her the reasons why you are Orthodox and why so many protestants have converted. Show her some videos of the transformation church and explain how protestantism has fallen away from the word of god
I grew up with the consequences of Divorce. There's no way I'd ever get married. The people who get married always have a certain quality that I lack. In any case, I'm incredibly cynical of these things so I probably should think about that final word you quoted.
@@AnAngeli no it quite literally is one or the other. There's no blessed single path where you live for yourself alone. That's a modern cope. It's the martyrdom of marriage or the martyrdom of monasticism
Im struggling with this, as i was dating and "playing married" before i was christian and my girlfriend still isent christian yet. So im struggling withthis greatly
I've been thinking about going to a Orthodox church however there isn't really any around here, there has been one that I found but if that one doesn't work out I'm kind of out of luck.
You get married to create a life together, by quite literally creating life. It's also a great fractal representation of Gods relationship with us, when we marry and raise children. Fill your quiver, be fruitful and multiply. Marriage isn't meant to be sterile. God's LOGOS isn't sterile. Plus, who gets married if there's no kids? You don't need marriage to pick furniture or share a mortgage.
I feel like this should be more explained, how a non-married couple with kids for example rectifies their failiure. I myself has had the same women for 17years, i took on her 6mounth old kid as my own and never seen him like someone elses nor seen her as anything else then my wife. We have been blessed with 3 kids(4 with her oldest), and the only reason i never thought about marriage(outside of not being christian up until now), was the fact that i could NOT see the protestant church as anything close to godly.. and so even if marrige was in my mind, i rather be married in mind and spirit then in a false church as i saw it to be. And i knew NOTHING about Orthodoxy up until maby a year ago. Did'nt even know it was christian. So in todays world, i would love to see more content on how "modern people" of today.. rectifies their lifes and comes into the Orthodox life. How one shifts from modern life with all its sinfulness, into an Orthodox life accepted by the church.
You can simply arrange a marriage in an Orthodox Church. Especially the Russian Churches. Your family is not a sin, it simply lacks the blessing of God. You can start to attend the nearest Orthodox Church and arrange for a simple Holy Mass for your Marriage. If they are Russians they will gladly arrange your marriage. You both have to attend church and be baptized in the Church though Then you can baptize all of your kids I have two Russian grandparents who could not marry when young cause the Soviet Communists killed their local priests and destroyed the church with bombs. There were no church at all where they lived. They got married in the church in the ‘80s or the ‘90s when Russia started rebuilding churches. But their family was considered marriage by the russian priests I also heard some controversial opinion by Andrej Tkachov that he prefers to marry families and not young people who may divorce tomorrow (I don’t agree though) but your family is already a godly commitment so the priests will be happy to perform baptism and marriage for you
@@FoundSheep-AN I thank you for your tips. While i feel a great pull to attend church i found my nation(swe) has only one eastern Orthodox church and it is some hours away. Sweden also evicted Rocor so i don´t know if there is an russian church left atall. I am striving to get the means to travel to the eastern one, i am in contact with its priest. I pray God will use me to establish a strong foothold here for Orthodoxy, it is greatly needed. God bless
How can you men say that, I go to an Orthodox Russian church and we are 90% single young women or elderly widowers. How can it be difficult for an orthodox man to simply come to church and meet an orthodox woman?
@@JurgenLoschferwell for us women it’s even more difficult! I am happy being single unless some miracle happens But it’s far easier for the man to marry
@@FoundSheep-AN well we men do not have material standards, we do not expect the woman to have money or a high career, I as a man do strongly prefer chastity when it comes to women.. No it is not easy for me to marry and find a good wife..
Father Trenham I have a question. I don’t know if you’ll see this but one of my greatest desires is to be a husband and a father. I am living in accordance to my beliefs by not having sex before marriage and focusing on Christ but I get very discouraged sometimes. It seems like every girl I meet or speak to either doesn’t know or care about God. They live hedonic lifestyles and have been ruined by previous men to the point they don’t trust me either. Should I just keep looking or join the priesthood😂 I’m 23 by the way, the girls in this generation are much different than in the past because of social media, so often advice that older generations tell me doesn’t work. They seem surprised when I tell them that a lot of girls are seeing 4 or 5 guys at the same time😬
@@jaysoniii it could be but I even go to church and it seems like a lot of the girls at church have the same checkered past. Maybe I am just having too high of expectations but up until 50 years ago it was normal to expect a virgin partner. Now it’s more rare than a diamond.
@@isaiahdryg9725 “Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future.” Must be best to talk to your priest about this then, I would say that as long as they’ve left their past lifestyle behind, it’s okay. We all have a past
wait and pray! Most of all, pray to be conformed to God's will: to want and to love what he wants for you. He is in control and he will answer. I'm in my 30s and will get married - god willing - to the first boyfriend I ever had.... btw he had been praying to find a Christian wife shortly before we met.
@@jaysoniii if he wants to be a priest she can't really have a past though according to the canons. Which is part of the problem they were written for a Christianized world. Not a pagan one becoming Christian or in our case a formerly Christianized one lapsed back into paganism.
I am a Catholic discerning joining the priesthood, but I am saddened that if I do become a priest, I won’t be able to have a family. In prayer I often ask God which one I should do, but I still have the desire to do both.
Try Orthodoxy! By the way I also know a young guy from Hungary who is becoming a priest of the catholic Rutenian church and he is going to marry and have kids but they are an ethnic branch of the Catholic Church
@@FoundSheep-AN The problem is I agree with Orthodox theology, but the lack of Eucharistic miracles is one thing that is keeping me away. Also the Orthodox Church doesn’t have a successor to Peter, and although the current pope is driving me mad, he still is the successor to Peter.
A beautiful tradition. Pardon my ignorance, but is it a normal custom in Orthodox Christianity for the husband to be buried with his wife's crown for the reason expressed in this video?
I am coming from a Baptist background and not an Eastern Orthodox one. Wouldn't Matthew 5 show that "playing marriage" disqualifies one from marriage (since marrying a divorced person is one and the same as adultery, it follows that marrying a non virgin is also adultery)?
What if there is no believer man that is worthy of being a husband and a father and no worthy man is proposing to me? To me “worthy” is simply a Christian believer (he doesn’t have to be a fundamentalist Christian or something) and one who is stable emotionally and financially to have a wife and kids
What does the bible say about those who never married because they couldn't find a partner who respected and loved them, or the partner was not religious?
Paul wrote in the Acts of the Apostles New Testament that it’s better to not marry and only to care about what God likes But if the passion is too much rather than burn with passion, one can marry
Good thing Job put both his faith & God first above his 1st wife Bad thing that Adam did not do such the same however Im curious as to what exact correction Adam should have placed upon Eve when rebellion to God, via partaking in the forbidden fruit, first enterered into Eve's mind? Additionally, while I certainly believe the husband is called to be a selfless protector & a provider amongst other things (in submission to Christ & through potential bodily harm or death), I'm curious as to what specific sacrifices wives are called to make for their husbands. If the crowning ceremony of EO marriage is deened as a "mutually sacrificial martyrdom" so to speak, then that can't possibly be a 1 way street, can it? So what are certain things, that she's called to give, even if perhaps she isn't in the mood for it? 😄
@@BBBRRROOODDDYYYfr. Josiah Trenham produced a 14 minute video discussing marriage here. He discusses the absolute greatest sacrifice expected from the husband (surrendering his own life for his wife should the situation call for it) yet doesn't discuss even 1 sacrifice the wife is expected of, such as submission to her husband. I'm quite familiar with EO spheres & while their criticisms/expectations for a husband & men in general are pretty great, they still tend to refrain from or under-discuss the expectations from women & wives. You know what sermon we really need? In between the "porn man bad" essays/videos/sermons, I'd love to see just 1 video emphasizing why young women should not choose pseudo-science humanities degrees at satan University or be obsessed with careerist bossbabeism. Seeking to control wayward young men's behavior Is fine (and surely needed) but you must do the same for women or you will lose both patriarchal order in your church parish & within the wider culture war, a double whammy of losing
Marriage has become such an easily disposable thing now because of divorce. The fact of the matter is that most marriages today end in divorce. And it’s the women that are mostly initiating the divorces. As a man, how do you navigate through all that????
You must ask yourself what causes divorce to be initiated. Often times women feel overlooked and unheard. At one point they get tired of feeling like a nag and leave. Mutual love and respect as well as gracious yet direct continuous communication rooted in understanding instead of ego is necessary. Christian Marriage is one of the ultimate form of pragmatic self-denial as demanded by Christ. Certainly not an easy task to be romantically idolized. God bless you.
Majority of women who “initiated the divorce “ did that cause they discovered an infidelity a cheating that the man was doing And if you marry a real orthodox woman a believer, she won’t believe in divorce but neither should you and you should not cheat and you should be able to provide as an Orthodox man for your family
What if there is no believer man that is worthy of being a husband and a father and no worthy man is proposing to me? To me “worthy” is simply a Christian believer (he doesn’t have to be a fundamentalist Christian or something) and one who is stable emotionally and financially to have a wife and kids
I have the same problems when it comes to find a wife. I would also like to find a good Orthodox lady with whom I could start a family, get married to.. Unfortunately modern women even from Orthodox countries, do not have the same intentions, they seek earthly things, not Orthodoxy.
@@JurgenLoschferwell one can’t have a marriage and kids without “earthly things”, (like a stable emotional and mental state of being, good financial position, house, car to drive kids, money for vacations, money to make the kids study and do sports and money to buy healthy foods and for medical care etc) etc etc and women are by nature more “earthly” then men. Of course the basis is the belief in God, following God ‘ s laws, trying to sanctify one another. I don’t think the fact that one is from a orthodox country or not is crucial. It’s more about if the person is a practicing Christian, not only somebody who labels himself / herself as an Orthodox only for cultural reason or cause he was baptized as a kid and never went to church after that, and does not have a Christian lifestyle. Anyway orthodx churches are full of women, so I guess it’s easier for a man to find a nice orthodox woman at church. My parish is full of young single women or elderly single widows 😂
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I've been poor and near homeless for many decades, marriage and children seem unlikely for me, I appreciate the church and people still getting married snd having kids, poverty is both a blessing and curse
How do baptised orthodox who suffer from mental illness find the strength to turn to the lord ...
@@wisehiguys108 from family, friends and intervention with medication.
@@wisehiguys108 go to ur nearest orthodox church/parish and ask the priest
I have played married for 8 years. We have a 6 year old girl. I recently left to get a new home and remain in chastity with her for 4 months while studying Orthodoxy. I bought a new bed for myself so it will remain pure until we can both be baptized in the Orthodox Church and be married. I want my home to be our home and an extension of the kingdom of heaven. Forgive me Jesus Christ Son of the Most High God for I am a sinner. Please pray for us Father Josiah.
Many years
May God grant you many years
@@highoctanehummus6564 thank you.
May Christ bless your family ❤❤❤
Good job, Sean! You are doing the right thing! May God help you and may other people who have a similar situation follow your example! Lord have mercy!
I'm getting married in the Orthodox Church this Saturday!
God Bless you both, God willing you be happy forever
Many years!
Thank you both! Two more hours to go 😁
So great to hear this. God bless hope all is well.
congratulations! my cousin got married yesterday as well, although not in the church. hope it all went beautifully!
My wife and I were married in the church last month. We came into the church together and struggled to live Godly lives up till our marriage. Now that we are married and our relationship is put in its correct orientation towards God, we have never been more happy and filled with love for one another. Glory to God! ☦️
I would love to be married but i know i am not where i need to be as a person to be worthy to have a wife and a family. May the Lord Christ make me worthy as a man to produce, provide and protect a family. Amen
You are not alone in such a situation.
God bless you!
Ww3 is up ahead we have other bigger problems right now .
Image if we die on some field like so many other poor men before us .
Only his will be done !
Who am I anyway?
This is a very mature prayer. Instead of praying for a wife, we ought to pray for God to help us become men worthy of a good wife.
Amen I hope it happens for you soo
Christ is Risen!☦️ I pray I’m able to remarry my wife of 5 years once we are Baptized into the Orthodox Church☦️☦️
There is a marriage blessing but I don't think they do a remarriage
@@write2rule5I think they mean that they wish to get married in the Orthodox church, the actual crowning ceremony itself.?
@@write2rule5 we had an entirely secular marriage, just paperwork getting done through the county clerk, I want our marriage to be sanctified by God in the Orthodox Church. Whatever that looks like
@@marshallkarl7956 It will be normal wedding. And if I may say, right move.
It's not remarriage. It's bringing your existing marriage to God.
This makes me emotional. I pray God will bring someone into my life to be crowned with in the beautiful Orthodox church. Since childhood, this union and door to family has been the utmost desire of my heart. I often despair that it will not come to pass. But it is God’s will and I hope the time is yet to come.
Please pray for me. May God bless according to His will in His Church.
You men are not alone .
With God blessings, may all of you find a Christian woman and have many children in happiness!
Pray for me a sinner ☦️
What is your name?
@@voievod9260 Gregory, St. Gregory Palamas is my patron saint 🙏🏻☦️
How beautiful! We were married in a Southern Baptist church 38 years ago. We are Methodist, but Orthodoxy is really calling me.
Welcome Home!
Orthodox Christianity is beyond words beautiful and amazing! I am still stunned at the awesomeness of the Holy Orthodox Church and my husband and I converted two Orthodox Christianity 17 years ago! Becoming an Orthodox Christian is the best decision ever! ❤️
As someone who is in his late 30s and lost his hope to ever getting married, this was a very hard video to listen to. I envy those who found someone who is willing to spend their life by their spouse.
I was baptized and married in my 40’s. Didn’t see that coming!
Don't give up, man. Marriage is eternal and this brief life is just the beginning. Someone is out there for you. Just keep repenting and working on bettering yourself a little each day. Eventually the Lord will bless you and find you a helper.
Are you a man or a woman?
Are you a man or a woman? A man in his late 30s is young
I live in a city where all wealthy men are still single in their late 30s that’s not an issue at all
My dad passed in 2017. My mum who is 85 this yr will be buried with both crowns because it was hard enough losing her spouse of close to 55yrs.
Normally when one spouse dies the ribbon is cut and one crown goes with the deceased spouse.
That’s what i have been told in the past. Others just get rid of them altogether.
In the old days there were real crowns that stayed in the church and everyone was married with the same crowns. By leaving them in the church all marriages were constantly blessed and prayed for. I dont know which i would prefer but an orthodox wedding is full of spiritual rites and ceremony.
Hi! I have never heard of keeping the crowns, however they may look. In Romania the crowns are always kept at church and used for marriage, just like you said.
The only "crown" that is kept (and has a different name, a variation of the term "crown") is the one made of flowers which is held by the beaid on her head and is part of her "accessories". (This one, unfortunately, tends to disappear due to Western influences.)
@@eeaotly The greek orthodox church does not use the proper crowns anymore, they use fake flower ones with a white ribbon attaching the two crowns. We take those with us. It’s a shame really keeping the proper crowns in a church is far better i think.
In the Russian tradition our crowns aren't conjoined, but we have a cloth that binds our hands together.
@@eeaotlySame in the Russian tradition.
Κύριε Ιησού Χριστέ ελέησον τον κόσμο σου! ☦
Εις τους αιώνας των αιώνων Αμήν 🙏
I Had The Privilege and Honor of Being Married To My Beloved Wife For Life ( W4L) On The Sunday of the Samaritan Woman, June, 2, 2024 @ Christ The Saviour Antiochian Orthodox Church in My Hometown of Anderson ( Anderson County) ,South Carolina And I Am Glad To Have Been Married Before Almighty God and My Church Family As Well. ☦️🕊🕯📿🙏🤵👰♂️☦️⛪️‼️
What a beautiful tradition. I so hoped to find a Christian wife and start a family. That was apparently not in the cards for me. I have to admit feelings of jealousy while watching this.
Overrated. U can never do enough for a woman. What have you done lately. That’s there Mantra. Plus the church is in bed with the state so when she gets bored she takes everything. Yet the church is silent on this. Should be able to marry without the state.
@matthill4406 most men and women don't like truth, read the Bible very few good people exist in general both men snd women because of there incoherent worldview and belief system
@matthill4406 ur comment is over rated and no one cares about ur nihilism here
What’s wrong man? There’s no reason you can’t get married.
@@starstray4326 Hahahaha! I'm 54. Good luck finding a TERRIBLE woman who is available, much less a good one. I've tried everything I know. At this point it's going to have to be divine intervention, or nothing. It's looking like nothing.
❤✝ CHRIST IS RISEN ✝❤
❤💪💍🙏✝ GOD BE WITH US AGAINST EVIL AND TEMPTATIONS ✝🙏⛪👩❤️👨🕊
Pray for me to be ready for when I meet my future wife
Glory to God. I hope to have an Orthodox crowning at some point after my future wife and I convert.
❤ I really enjoyed delving deeper into this topic thankyou Father Josiah
How wonderful,thank you Father. My house is part of the church.I pray to always remember that.Amen
Bless you Father Trenham. Thank you for sharing this podcast. ✝☦
Anyone else hear this message and think wow this is a beautiful message but wrestle with the thought of being married in the culture we currently live in?
Yes, but trash culture can’t stop God. Maybe find an Orthodox Church near you and pray about it there in His house!
You just have to find a woman who thinks the way you do
It’s easy since you have a man as a profile’ s picture I guess you are a man
I am single woman and I go to a church that is 90% single Eastern European orthodox women, I guess a orthodox man could simply come and chose one…
@@FoundSheep-AN yes I am a man
@@josephcarlson7276 aren’t there any cute single orthodox women at your local Orthodox Church? Usually only women go to Orthodox Holy Mass… men don’t.
@@josephcarlson7276aren’t there any good believers and cute Orthodox single women at your local Orthodox Church? Churches are usually full of women and they are usually hardcore believers if they are Orthodox (they are usually no woke, no feminists, have an Eastern European traditional heritage etc)
I am with my wife 35 years, and we are happy in Jesus Christ every day;
Please come visit us in the UK or in London, specifically, Fr. Josiah! You have so much grace to share that could edify our communities on this side of the world, and you are much loved. Thank you for all that you do, may God keep you and your family safe.
A great topic as always! Very relevant! Большое спасибо Отец! / Thanks and God bless you all! 😊
That’s so cool I pray that God has this in store for me
They are beautiful and great explanation! God bless
This was lovely
Great teaching you have given us Father Josiah
This is wonderful!
Beautiful.
i have been married for 39 years ups and downs 2 sons now retired i love going to dsily mass when possible and importantly dairy rosaries which are the spiritual weapon for daily battle and being givendsily blessings❤
Thank you
The same in the Armenian Orthodox Church. It’s called the crowning (psakatrutyun).
I love this 🖤
Ive always wanted to be a husband but i fear i never will be able to. Dating is hard enough but being orrhodox makes it even harder since most women in my area are protestant and see orthodoxy as cultish or too rigid
Meet a protestant girl and around the 3rd date when the conversation gets more serious invite her to a service. It is a huge opportunity to explain to her the reasons why you are Orthodox and why so many protestants have converted. Show her some videos of the transformation church and explain how protestantism has fallen away from the word of god
Great video
I grew up with the consequences of Divorce. There's no way I'd ever get married. The people who get married always have a certain quality that I lack.
In any case, I'm incredibly cynical of these things so I probably should think about that final word you quoted.
To the monastery for you?
Find a woman from Africa, there is *nothing* in the world comparable to her love
We can be single and not choose the monastic life it's not one or the other 😅
@@BBBRRROOODDDYYYAfrikaner/Boer only. Why would you willingly lower your kids iqs by two standard deviations?
@@AnAngeli no it quite literally is one or the other. There's no blessed single path where you live for yourself alone. That's a modern cope. It's the martyrdom of marriage or the martyrdom of monasticism
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Im struggling with this, as i was dating and "playing married" before i was christian and my girlfriend still isent christian yet.
So im struggling withthis greatly
Can you influence your girl to convert to Christianity and marry as soon as you can?
I've been thinking about going to a Orthodox church however there isn't really any around here, there has been one that I found but if that one doesn't work out I'm kind of out of luck.
There might be an Eastern Catholic Church near you. Check it out!
@@c.b.s.3495 Not the same thing. One is part of the true church, the other is papist, no matter how eastern traditional it is.
@@c.b.s.3495no, avoid those places like the plague that they are
Not in North Americaa I guess
@@MarkarthCityGuard I'll keep praying for Christian unity. Please pray with me. God bless.
You get married to create a life together, by quite literally creating life. It's also a great fractal representation of Gods relationship with us, when we marry and raise children. Fill your quiver, be fruitful and multiply.
Marriage isn't meant to be sterile. God's LOGOS isn't sterile.
Plus, who gets married if there's no kids? You don't need marriage to pick furniture or share a mortgage.
I feel like this should be more explained, how a non-married couple with kids for example rectifies their failiure.
I myself has had the same women for 17years, i took on her 6mounth old kid as my own and never seen him like someone elses nor seen her as anything else then my wife.
We have been blessed with 3 kids(4 with her oldest), and the only reason i never thought about marriage(outside of not being christian up until now), was the fact that i could NOT see the protestant church as anything close to godly.. and so even if marrige was in my mind, i rather be married in mind and spirit then in a false church as i saw it to be.
And i knew NOTHING about Orthodoxy up until maby a year ago. Did'nt even know it was christian.
So in todays world, i would love to see more content on how "modern people" of today.. rectifies their lifes and comes into the Orthodox life.
How one shifts from modern life with all its sinfulness, into an Orthodox life accepted by the church.
You can simply arrange a marriage in an Orthodox Church. Especially the Russian Churches. Your family is not a sin, it simply lacks the blessing of God. You can start to attend the nearest Orthodox Church and arrange for a simple Holy Mass for your Marriage. If they are Russians they will gladly arrange your marriage.
You both have to attend church and be baptized in the Church though
Then you can baptize all of your kids
I have two Russian grandparents who could not marry when young cause the Soviet Communists killed their local priests and destroyed the church with bombs. There were no church at all where they lived.
They got married in the church in the ‘80s or the ‘90s when Russia started rebuilding churches.
But their family was considered marriage by the russian priests
I also heard some controversial opinion by Andrej Tkachov that he prefers to marry families and not young people who may divorce tomorrow (I don’t agree though) but your family is already a godly commitment so the priests will be happy to perform baptism and marriage for you
@@FoundSheep-AN I thank you for your tips.
While i feel a great pull to attend church i found my nation(swe) has only one eastern Orthodox church and it is some hours away.
Sweden also evicted Rocor so i don´t know if there is an russian church left atall.
I am striving to get the means to travel to the eastern one, i am in contact with its priest.
I pray God will use me to establish a strong foothold here for Orthodoxy, it is greatly needed.
God bless
Finding a woman is easier said than done.
How can you men say that, I go to an Orthodox Russian church and we are 90% single young women or elderly widowers. How can it be difficult for an orthodox man to simply come to church and meet an orthodox woman?
@@FoundSheep-AN It is not easy to find a wife. I also want Orthodox marriage, but I cannot find a wife. I am still seeking and praying to God.
@@JurgenLoschferwell for us women it’s even more difficult! I am happy being single unless some miracle happens
But it’s far easier for the man to marry
@@FoundSheep-AN well we men do not have material standards, we do not expect the woman to have money or a high career, I as a man do strongly prefer chastity when it comes to women.. No it is not easy for me to marry and find a good wife..
Can you please give us where to find that sentence in Prolog? Which date in Prolog of St Nikolaj Velimirovic? Thank you
Father Trenham I have a question. I don’t know if you’ll see this but one of my greatest desires is to be a husband and a father. I am living in accordance to my beliefs by not having sex before marriage and focusing on Christ but I get very discouraged sometimes. It seems like every girl I meet or speak to either doesn’t know or care about God. They live hedonic lifestyles and have been ruined by previous men to the point they don’t trust me either. Should I just keep looking or join the priesthood😂 I’m 23 by the way, the girls in this generation are much different than in the past because of social media, so often advice that older generations tell me doesn’t work. They seem surprised when I tell them that a lot of girls are seeing 4 or 5 guys at the same time😬
Where are you finding these girls? Maybe you’re looking in the wrong place?
@@jaysoniii it could be but I even go to church and it seems like a lot of the girls at church have the same checkered past. Maybe I am just having too high of expectations but up until 50 years ago it was normal to expect a virgin partner. Now it’s more rare than a diamond.
@@isaiahdryg9725 “Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future.” Must be best to talk to your priest about this then, I would say that as long as they’ve left their past lifestyle behind, it’s okay. We all have a past
wait and pray! Most of all, pray to be conformed to God's will: to want and to love what he wants for you. He is in control and he will answer. I'm in my 30s and will get married - god willing - to the first boyfriend I ever had.... btw he had been praying to find a Christian wife shortly before we met.
@@jaysoniii if he wants to be a priest she can't really have a past though according to the canons. Which is part of the problem they were written for a Christianized world. Not a pagan one becoming Christian or in our case a formerly Christianized one lapsed back into paganism.
I am a Catholic discerning joining the priesthood, but I am saddened that if I do become a priest, I won’t be able to have a family. In prayer I often ask God which one I should do, but I still have the desire to do both.
Try Orthodoxy!
By the way I also know a young guy from Hungary who is becoming a priest of the catholic Rutenian church and he is going to marry and have kids but they are an ethnic branch of the Catholic Church
@@FoundSheep-AN The problem is I agree with Orthodox theology, but the lack of Eucharistic miracles is one thing that is keeping me away. Also the Orthodox Church doesn’t have a successor to Peter, and although the current pope is driving me mad, he still is the successor to Peter.
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A beautiful tradition. Pardon my ignorance, but is it a normal custom in Orthodox Christianity for the husband to be buried with his wife's crown for the reason expressed in this video?
I'm not sure but when he said that I 😫😭... so beautiful
Both partners are buried with their opposing partners crown when they die
We didn't get to keep our crowns. Must be a Greek thing.
Thank you. @@IIZCHAOS
I am coming from a Baptist background and not an Eastern Orthodox one. Wouldn't Matthew 5 show that "playing marriage" disqualifies one from marriage (since marrying a divorced person is one and the same as adultery, it follows that marrying a non virgin is also adultery)?
Can you live a single parish life in the Church?
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What if you marry someone and realize soon after that you didn’t follow God in that decision?
Begin following him in that decision now. Be responsible for your decision.
What if there is no believer man that is worthy of being a husband and a father and no worthy man is proposing to me?
To me “worthy” is simply a Christian believer (he doesn’t have to be a fundamentalist Christian or something) and one who is stable emotionally and financially to have a wife and kids
I was baptized and married at the same ceremony , divorced after 6 years , he cheated
If your husband cheated the Orthodx church you can marry again in the Orthodox Church
@@FoundSheep-AN I rather stay alone
What does the bible say about those who never married because they couldn't find a partner who respected and loved them, or the partner was not religious?
Paul wrote in the Acts of the Apostles New Testament that it’s better to not marry and only to care about what God likes
But if the passion is too much rather than burn with passion, one can marry
Good thing Job put both his faith & God first above his 1st wife
Bad thing that Adam did not do such the same however
Im curious as to what exact correction Adam should have placed upon Eve when rebellion to God, via partaking in the forbidden fruit, first enterered into Eve's mind?
Additionally, while I certainly believe the husband is called to be a selfless protector & a provider amongst other things (in submission to Christ & through potential bodily harm or death), I'm curious as to what specific sacrifices wives are called to make for their husbands.
If the crowning ceremony of EO marriage is deened as a "mutually sacrificial martyrdom" so to speak, then that can't possibly be a 1 way street, can it? So what are certain things, that she's called to give, even if perhaps she isn't in the mood for it? 😄
Maybe look up one of the many videos on Orthodox Marriage that isnt specifically about crowns. This has all been spoken to many times
@@BBBRRROOODDDYYYfr. Josiah Trenham produced a 14 minute video discussing marriage here. He discusses the absolute greatest sacrifice expected from the husband (surrendering his own life for his wife should the situation call for it) yet doesn't discuss even 1 sacrifice the wife is expected of, such as submission to her husband.
I'm quite familiar with EO spheres & while their criticisms/expectations for a husband & men in general are pretty great, they still tend to refrain from or under-discuss the expectations from women & wives.
You know what sermon we really need? In between the "porn man bad" essays/videos/sermons, I'd love to see just 1 video emphasizing why young women should not choose pseudo-science humanities degrees at satan University or be obsessed with careerist bossbabeism.
Seeking to control wayward young men's behavior Is fine (and surely needed) but you must do the same for women or you will lose both patriarchal order in your church parish & within the wider culture war, a double whammy of losing
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If i don't marry, let's be a monk!
Now the only issue is finding a woman that wants to marry you
Healthy people can get married..
Marriage has become such an easily disposable thing now because of divorce. The fact of the matter is that most marriages today end in divorce. And it’s the women that are mostly initiating the divorces.
As a man, how do you navigate through all that????
You must ask yourself what causes divorce to be initiated. Often times women feel overlooked and unheard. At one point they get tired of feeling like a nag and leave. Mutual love and respect as well as gracious yet direct continuous communication rooted in understanding instead of ego is necessary. Christian Marriage is one of the ultimate form of pragmatic self-denial as demanded by Christ. Certainly not an easy task to be romantically idolized. God bless you.
@@jadefarah2858 Thank you for your input. I’ll just be single for life. 😊
Majority of women who “initiated the divorce “ did that cause they discovered an infidelity a cheating that the man was doing
And if you marry a real orthodox woman a believer, she won’t believe in divorce but neither should you and you should not cheat and you should be able to provide as an Orthodox man for your family
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Alas, there is no marriage in Orthodox America, there are no singles in your area.
There's people around that want to get married but it's so hard nowadays 🥲
❤ I really enjoyed delving deeper into this topic thankyou Father Josiah
What if there is no believer man that is worthy of being a husband and a father and no worthy man is proposing to me?
To me “worthy” is simply a Christian believer (he doesn’t have to be a fundamentalist Christian or something) and one who is stable emotionally and financially to have a wife and kids
I have the same problems when it comes to find a wife. I would also like to find a good Orthodox lady with whom I could start a family, get married to.. Unfortunately modern women even from Orthodox countries, do not have the same intentions, they seek earthly things, not Orthodoxy.
@@JurgenLoschferwell one can’t have a marriage and kids without “earthly things”, (like a stable emotional and mental state of being, good financial position, house, car to drive kids, money for vacations, money to make the kids study and do sports and money to buy healthy foods and for medical care etc) etc etc and women are by nature more “earthly” then men.
Of course the basis is the belief in God, following God ‘ s laws, trying to sanctify one another.
I don’t think the fact that one is from a orthodox country or not is crucial. It’s more about if the person is a practicing Christian, not only somebody who labels himself / herself as an Orthodox only for cultural reason or cause he was baptized as a kid and never went to church after that, and does not have a Christian lifestyle.
Anyway orthodx churches are full of women, so I guess it’s easier for a man to find a nice orthodox woman at church.
My parish is full of young single women or elderly single widows 😂