CORRECTION: As a viewer rightly pointed out (thanks!), the TRD trim does come with a stainless steel front skid plate as standard (that was introduced on TRDs for the 2021+ model years). That still doesn't change my general opinion that the TRD isn't worth the additional cost, and a front skid plate still doesn't protect all of the underbody components, but it is something. Also, you can buy the skid plate as a standalone part from Toyota for approximately $400, and it should be a pretty simple install on any model.
fuck a hybrid more costly to repair keep it simple STUPID, this whole ''clean energy'' going green it's all a fucking scam lol, you cannot even build these vehicles or materials without fossil fuels, what ev is about is locking customers/3rd parties out of repairing their vehicles.
Given surveys have shown over 3/4 of Americans don't know how to change their own oil, I don't think a hybrid powertrain is what is preventing people from repairing their own vehicles. Major hybrid powertrain components also must be warrantied by the manufacturer for at least 8 years and 100k miles (and in some states it's 10 years/150k miles). Lastly, given hybrids have been on the market for 20+ years at this point, I think we're past the initial teething pains (especially those using Ni-mh batteries). Heck, direct fuel injection was a "complicated" technology at one time too, and now well over 50% of all cars sold in the US utilize that.
@@drivetorun4172 fuel injections been around since the 1950s avalible option on chevy bel airs, it didnt get wildely adopted untill later tho, but most mechanics dont even know how to work on hybrids tbh, it's just best to go all motor naturally aspirated and fuck the turbos also ''K.I.S.S.'' old military saying keep it simple stupid.
@@billybobbob3003 I understand that you are frustrated by the complex technology that all vehicles have. I chose a naturally aspirated engine to avoid complicated and expensive repairs, but tady's cars are far too complex for a DIYer to repair. even basic maintenance items could require costly tools and hours of study just to understand the new design of a modern car. I take my car to a trusted Honda specialist when it needs work done.
I've been looking for a clear, straight forward analysis of these trims for hours and I've gone from annoying 30 minute videos to convoluted articles, most of them on Toyota dealership websites (wtf), until I found this video. Thank you for getting straight to the point! It took me four hours to sift through all the fluff to reach the same conclusion you did in your succinct 7 min video.
@@drivetorun4172 I suppose I need to number crunch, how long it would take to recoop the extra $ spent on the Hybrid AWD version, vs. gas. If it's also more fun to drive - i.e a little more power, then I suppose that's an advantage as well.
It would be amazing if you continued this for 2023 models as well. You broke everything down well and it was a solid video. Thank you for taking the time to make these.
This is hands down the most informative video on Rav4 trims. If I look at the websites, i would have never be able to come to this conclusion. Thank you !!!
Ive been watching 2022 rav4 videos for last 2 weeks trying to figure out what trim to buy and cant believe TH-cam didn’t recommend your channel til I started watching sienna videos. Great info! put in deposit for xle base last week and feels good to get some confirmation.
Thanks for being real. I was initially leaning towards the XSE until I watched this video and I'm now settled for XLE. I now realize that the SE lineup is basically just for aesthetics.
I agree with you the XLE is the best choice.. I would personally go for The XLE Premium. The Adventure would be the one to go for if you wanted the more sporty trim without adding a lot more to the cost.
In the market for a new Rav4, and I was puzzled about the differences in trim levels and which ones would be best for me. Your informative video helped clear that up really well, thank you!!
As a Toyota technician, I think this video kind of bypasses the differences between the radio/head units between the different trim levels. If you care about things such as navigation, automatic SOS services, remote starting, and audio quality, then the "in between" trim levels make a lot of sense since there is a total of difference between the Audio, Audio Plus, Premium Audio, and Premium Audio with JBL. The cost difference for the in-between models makes more sense in that way. A small thing to note too, the LE trim cannot have roof crossbars installed since it doesn't come with the roof rail system- another strike down for that base trim. Otherwise, great video! I wish our salesmen knew even a third of this.
You have the most comprehensive video about the trim levels of the RAV4 5th Generation, regarding the cost. On top of the mark up as you mentioned, the dealerships may not have the colors and trim levels you might want. But overall your video is an excellent source of information to take a good decision of getting the most value for your dollars.
Very true--particularly if you are in a smaller market. I'd look at your nearest metro area where hopefully there are more dealers which will drive some of that mark-up down (I've got at least 10 Toyota dealers within 30mi of my house, and I've found multiple that aren't charging any mark-up). Even with that though, you are correct that finding the color or trim you want still may not be easy.
I’ have an 2020 RAV4 TRD and I truly love it, I just added a 2” lift Kit and 245/60/18 Wild Peaks A/T and it feel and drives completely different in a great way. It doesn’t feel little anymore or like a soccer mom SUV. Plan on putting some more off road/ overlanding upgraded into it as the years pass but gonna enjoy this ride. I was able to take out long commutes to work so losing MPG isn’t making me losses sleep. It’s perfect for my outdoor natured inspired, artist lifestyle.
I appreciate the comments and input. Just a few suggestions if you are planning to continue: 1) might be helpful if you get a better microphone for clarity. 2) I respect your opinion, but I think I disagree that there's certain trims. I think would be better if you mentioned what you lose out of each trim, how much more would it cost, and who might be interested in it. There was a time in my life that the LE was the only one I would have been able to afford. The XLE is an excellent option. The premium is really nice, and I agree, there's a reason why I think these are the two most popular selling. I just got my XSE hybrid. I wanted the power moon roof. I do like the outside trim a lot more. I go up to the mountains a lot, so the pano moon roof is excellent when I have passengers in the back and they can't see the beautiful view I get to see. The limited... A lot of bells and whistles, but if you have the money and it's worth it to you, I respect that. As far as suggesting other cars. I checked out every car that was suggested to me while I was shopping. And this one fit on my needs for being practical yet rugged and versatile. I know there's some higher end cars or more affordable similar SUVs, but I could go down the list and tell you why each one didn't work for me. Thanks for the input though. Hope mine was helpful
This video helped me buy a 23 Rav4 Hybrid XLE. Wonder why you stopped making or updating these. I personally got a lot of value and consider these the most useful videos on YT for a serious and yet novice or first time car buyer who does not know what trim to get. You provide serious analysis on why people should (or not) consider certain trims without fluff.
You helped me to finally be able to decide which Rav 4 to buy. I have watched so many videos over the last 6 months, and you cleared up so much for me. The other videos left me more confused. Thank you.
Nice job. Potential buyers need to know the pros / cons and what it's worth to move into a higher trim level. This is a nice niche you have carved out for your videos. Thanks.
Thanks for creating this video. It was very informative and I was teetering between the XLE or the SE series. You helped me solidify my option if and when I decide to get a new vehicle.
We rented a RAV4 last month. Liked it. Saw your video today, wished I had seen it before we rented to get a much better fix on exactly what we were driving. I could have figured in your observations and expertise. Like so many others, compliments for an excellent, comprehensive RAV4 tutorial.
This video was really informative out of all I’ve seen out there in TH-cam. Just ordered my Rav4 xle “lunar rock” color last week. Hopefully it doesn’t take that long to arrive.
Wow amazing so much more clear and concise than many of the other breakdown videos hope you do more of these and specifically for this year‘s model SUVs
Great work. Helpful video that go straight on point to compare so many trim options and clears the confusion on what trims to consider. Saves hundreds of minutes of reading various blogs and websites that do not offer clear answers.
Good choice! I bought a 2021 XLE Premium (gas version) in April 2021 just before the inventory problems started. I'm in Canada and the XLE Premium at that time was an extra $3800 over the XLE. IMO, it was worth it to get the nicer 19" alloys, Softex seats, bigger screen, memory seats and a few other goodies. We love it and the gas mileage is superb!!!
Hi, I just bought a 21 RAV4 XLE with Cold Weather Package threw Coscto auto program. Glad to see I picked a smart trim level. Thank you, very informative !!
You found a dealer that participates in the Costco Auto program during the supply chain shortage?!? Everyone's been telling me that they aren't honoring at this time due to high demand/low inventory.
I like your quick look at all the Rav4 trims. I am seriously considering a purchase of a new Rav4. Thank you for showing all the trim levels, it helped me find the right vehicle.
There's way too many trims and not enough differences between each one to give each one a unique distinction. Many features on the XLE should be standard on the base LE model. The base model should at least come with blind spot monitoring and rear cross traffic alert, smart key and push button start, 17" alloy wheels, 6 way power driver seat, etc
I 1000% agree with you. The number of trims manufacturers are making these days is ridiculous...makes me think that if they simplified things a bit more, maybe it'd be easier for them to get the parts they needed :)
@@MilkyWayGalaxyy no they don’t. every trim that does come with heated seats gets it in the weather package for around $800 to $1000 more. bullshit. highlander and sienna do get it standard on xle and higher trims i believe.
@@shantanumankar5383 never. i will never buy american cars. i want a dependable car that doesn’t need a lot of repairs and maintenance. toyotas are statistically significantly more reliable than fords, chevys, gmcs, and dodges.
Purchased the TRD Rav4, and I do not regret it one second. It is beautiful, works for me and it met every check mark I was searching for and then some. Do we really need a TRD rav4? If I buy a corvette, do I have to take it racing. Sometimes, purchasing a vehicle is about appreciating the machine it is. Like who needs a Lamborghini SUV. Get the car you want and dont let anyone say its not for you.
Thank you. This video really helped me decide which trim to go with; and of course I went with the XLE Hybrid. I agree with the recommendations and I also compared the differences on Toyota site as well and added my preferred options. Thanks for a great video!
So, the plug-in hybrid only comes in the SE and XSE trims (at least in the US). Of those, if you can afford to get the XSE, I think the extra cost is worth what you get (SynTex, moonroof, larger infotainment screen, auto-dim rearview mirror with Homelink, etc.), and with the XSE, you have a larger set of options to choose from to make it closer to whatever you want.
I got an adventure for the towing capacity added 2 lift kit and the metal skid plate. I do off light roading and these mods seem to help. I like the fuel economy as well.
Sounds like a nice build! If the TRD actually came with a lifted suspension, then I could justify recommending it, but in its current state, I think you did the right thing modding an Adventure-enjoy!
Wow these comments are spot on! Best video I’ve seen and makes my decision a no-brainer: xle premium hybrid lol. Thank you!! Always thought how odd it is they have a million different trims.
Great Review and well detailed, Thanks. My question: 1. does all the trims come with Apple & Android car play 2. Does any of it come with Wireless charging pad? Awaiting your kind response. Thanks
You're welcome! 1) Yes, but I'm not sure if any of them offer wireless CarPlay/Android Auto (meaning you may have to connect your phone with a cable to have those platforms work). 2) None of them come with a wireless charging pad as standard. It's optional on the (Hybrid) XLE Premium, TRD, (Hybrid) Limited, and (Hybrid & Prime) XSE. And honestly, if wireless CarPlay/Android Auto isn't available, then the wireless charging pad almost becomes a moot point because most people will connect their phone with the cable to get CarPlay/Android Auto, at which point, their phone will charge through the cable anyway
Really great break down. I have three family members who bought this gen RAV4, first one bought the Limited AWD Hybrid, which features a kick to open hatch feature. That was removed when a Toyota spec trailer hitch was added. Next member bought an LE AWD Hybrid. Now the third member has ordered and XLE AWD Hybrid. All Canadian, so specs are slightly different to this. And now there are used Primes on the market...for $10-$15k over new prices.
Yeah the Toyota hitch integrates into the rear bumper right where the sensors are, at least that's how the couple installs I've seen were done. After market hitches sit under the bumper and might not interfere with the sensors.
Thanks for the info! TBH, I feel like the kick to open hatches are a bit more gimmicky than actually being useful. I've never been in a situation where I've thought to myself, "I really wish I could just swipe my foot under the rear bumper to open the hatch," but then again, I've never lived with one that had that feature, so I could be wrong.
I have 2022 le AWD gas and love it , mine has blind sept monitoring , bought it used here in Canada with only 3700 km at 2 yeats old , now at 13000km and bought this trim level as it was a deal and low km and very happy with it, got a near new vehicle . Added some Toyota oem aluminum rims .
One of the best Rav4 videos I've seen here. I had decided on getting an XLE Hybrid. Your video confirms my decision. Wonder why no driver seatback map pockets?
They introduce it at the next trim level. Literally map pockets are now part of "Optional features." That said, I bought a Limited and totally feel it was worth it... including for the map pockets.
Good video, another reason I chose the XLE Premium was the better-looking wheels and you also get, at least in the 2023 model, a dual memory driver's seat.
Just in case you want leather seats but don’t want to pay 3k more or have moon roof and power lift gate for xle premium, I just ordered a 22 rav4 xle and custom ordered leather seats and it ran me $1495 even for upgrade. Saves 1500 dollars for what it’s worth!
My requirements (among Toyota cars) were: Look good (2-tone) and be a hybrid. The only trim that fits that bill for me is the XSE. Maybe you can modify the other trims to look like the XSE, but I prefer everything to be perfect out of the box. I imagine I'll drive this for the rest of my life (not in a 3-wish genie sort of way), but who knows.
That makes complete sense! As I mentioned, the SE or XSE work if you love the styling changes and are willing to pay extra for them (and car buying has never been a 100% left brain exercise anyway). Plus, if you're planning on keeping it for a really long time, the additional incremental cost will be a wash in the end. Enjoy!
I was the same. My big thing was I wanted the pano moonroof. That only came on the xse. Plus I loved the two tone and it’s a hybrid. It’s why I went out of my way to find one last year over an xle or even xle premium.
I have to admit, that I went with the XSE because of the pearl and shiny black trim. Pretty fun driving around in something that looks like a stormtrooper. LOL
Hi, I liked your video very much, could you please make a video comparing the corolla Cross trims with RAV4 trims and based on standard features which one makes sense to buy. Thank!
Thanks! I probably won't do a specific Corolla Cross to RAV4 comparison, but if you hadn't seen it already, I did a trim analysis of the Corolla Cross too (here: th-cam.com/video/oXS-BPXF20I/w-d-xo.html). In my opinion, if you were planning on getting a gas-only powertrain and don't plan on using the rear seats much, I'd go with the Corolla Cross over the RAV4. However, if getting a hybrid or having more rear seat space is important to you, then the RAV4 makes more sense. I hope that's helpful!
Thanks for the informative video, I've been watching this over and over again because I am thinking of getting maybe a hybrid xle or hybrid xle premium. I noticed that the battery between the two trim is different. Does it matter? Which is better? Is weather package reasonable to add or I could just add a heated seat on xle hybrid?
Not an expert, but I do believe there is no option of just adding “heated seats only” to the XLE. As far as I understand, you’d have to add the whole XLE weather package.
@@mistym0rning ohhh, then why this toyota salesperson told me that they cannot control what model or package it could have. It depends on the delivery of the maker. Because when I talked to them, I specifically told then that I want the weather package and he suggested that if its not available they could just add the heated seat in their facility. Am I being fooled by this dealership person or they just want additional income?
I ordered an XLE with convenience and cold weather package. Also mud flaps and wheel locks . My first Hybrid 😎 I picked it up last month and great so far.
My two cents...in this market, your biggest leverage is probably your trade-in (if you have one). Do a bit of legwork and get offers from Carmax, Carvana, Vroom, etc. and know what the highest one is before heading into the dealer.
The LE is too much bare bones.. I would at least want push start and blind spot monitoring on the vehicle at that price point not to mention alloy wheels..
I got a brand new 2022 RAV4 Hybrid. I've got 1,500 miles on it commuting to and from work. Here in Maine, if I use eco, stay 5 mph under the speed limit, and drive like my grandmother, I am lucky to get 32 mpg from my hybrid in January, February, and March. I went to the dealer today and they said, "Oh yea, you'll get 10 mpg more in the summer... if you don't use your air conditioning." I like the car, but don't expect to get any where near the stated mpg. It's better than the 22 mpg I was getting from my old Subaru Legacy, but my son gets better mileage from his non-hybrid Subaru Impreza.
I agree that XLE and XLE premium are typically the way to go, but you forgot to mention the upgraded, darker 18 inch wheels with the premium that look great IMO.
Thanks! Different colored rims are really subjective in terms of whether that's a plus or minus (I know people who feel strongly in both directions), and the different color really doesn't cost much more for Toyota to make, so I tend not to call that stuff out to justify spending more for a particular trim.
Okay so I am deciding between XLE and XLE premium. By Darker wheels do you mean black wheels? Also does the basic XLE come with push to start and rear vents? I really hate the fender flares. Do you think they will take those off in 1 or 2 years?
Yes, typically you can install fog lights as an aftermarket accessory, but they aren't listed as an "official" one through Toyota. It's possible the XLE's are pre-wired for the fog lights (there is some precedent for that), but looking through the parts catalogue, the new plastic facias and bulb will run you about $250/side. So, you're probably at least $500 pre-install assuming they are pre-wired. If not, it'll get more expensive. Of course, you could go non-OEM too.
@@drivetorun4172 appreciate the response. Thank you very much for the details. You are right on.. One of the dealership based out of NC quoted 589$ to fit these on Xle hybrid.
Thanks for this video, just placed a down payment for a Rav Adventure being delivered and this reassured my choice! Towing would be utilized, thanks again🙌🏽
MSRP includes everything, delivery, etc EXCEPT Taxes? I really don't like the fender flares. Were they always on the Rav4 or will they go away in 1 or 2 years?
Thank you! Yes, the Corolla Cross is going to be the next video that gets posted (before the end of the week), and I'll continue to work my way through the other SUVs.
Does the same logic apply to 2023 models? What about in colder climates? Are hybrids/hybrid plug-ins worth it? I checked, and we do have a hybrid vehicle incentive program in my country.
Exactly. Back and forth. Too many trims. It's confusing. I am concerned about having to replace the hybrid battery on top of the additional upfront costs for the hybrid. I just don't think I will drive enough to make that 5k cost worth it in the end.
Thank you! However, unfortunately, I probably won't be doing direct head-to-head comparison between those two. My videos are generally targeted at people who have decided which car they're going to get, but haven't decided on the trim. I do that because I haven't driven all these cars myself, so it's hard to say which one is a "better value" without getting personal experience with the respective powertrains, etc. Taking the RAV4 and CR-V as an example, for the gas models, the RAV4 is powered by a naturally-aspirated engine with an 8 speed transmission vs. the CR-V that has a turbo engine and CVT transmission. Those powertrains will have a very different feel to them, so the best thing to do is go and test drive and see which you prefer, and then decide a trim from there. Sorry I can't be of more help!
@@drivetorun4172 I learn a lot watching from your vids. I watch many times in between both of your vids and you help me to eliminate a lot of what if to pick those trims. Both of these cars are very durable and reliable. But I do agree that a test drive will be the best option. Please don’t be sorry and I appreciate all of your good work. Thanks so much
@@andychan9106 Great! If you're interested, my personal favorite TH-cam car review channel is: th-cam.com/users/DrivenCarReviews. I think Tom does a great job
Taking a quick look, I think the Forester Wilderness makes more sense than the Outback Wilderness because you actually get a more unique feature-set with the Forester (on the Outback, the Wilderness is nearly identical to the Onyx XT except you get +0.8" of ground clearance and all-terrain tires). The main thing to keep in mind for both is that you do loose quite a bit of highway fuel economy, so only you can decide if you'll use the extra Wilderness capability enough to justify that additional on-going cost. No matter what though, to be clear, the Wilderness package isn't anything like a Rubicon package on a Jeep or Badlands on a Bronco if you're truly looking for off-road capability.
So glad I got the 2022 XLE (not premium) but with the weather package and convenience package. I got moonroof, power liftgate, mudguards, cargo rubber liner etc
Really informative video. I don’t know if this changed since you made it, but in ‘23 the limited comes standard with the 10.5 screen/11 speaker jbl sound system and upgraded speedo display. For me the audio upgrade makes a big difference.
I have a question as I am looking on getting the XLE Premium or the Hybrid XLE Premium. Which one would you get and why? I am having a hard time deciding. To give you more context I will be a grad student in Columbus, OH, but buying my car in MN since that is my hometown before moving in August. In addition, this was a fantastic video!!
I am glad I came across this video, I wanted the hybrid but nope after seeing how much a battery cost when they go bad is 14-16 grand. So I’m looking at the adventure or limited. I want a sunroof and ventilation seats. Does the adventure come with this ?
one more difference: XLE wheel is 17 inch compared to XLE premium which is 18 inch. I bought XLE premium over XLE, as the price difference for me was just $800 with the packages my dealer added to them.
Yeah, I'm guessing you got the hybrid then (the gas-only XLE premium comes with 19"; the hybrid XLE premium comes with 18"). Quite frankly, in the name of simplicity, I try to focus on differences that are more feature-oriented than appearance since those differences can sometimes be harder to identify (it's relatively easy to see a size/style difference when comparing a vehicle side-by-side). But, you are absolutely correct!
Great Video. I was stuck on choosing between the xle premium and limited, but decided to go with the xle premium and add the options for the audio plus, weather package and technology package, which would about equal to the msrp for the limited. Im also not a fan of the limited’s chrome finishes on the door handles and rear end, but it looks amazing on the grill.
If you go to 0:15 in the video, you can see the pricing for the XLE (in FWD, AWD, or Hybrid forms). In terms of marking up a lot over MSRP, I'm sure there are some dealers that are, but you can also find dealers that aren't. If you look at various forums (like this one: www.4runners.com/threads/msrp-dealerships-list-them.20301/) you can find lists of dealerships that are only charging MSRP.
Honda's generally aren't as complicated because they keep their trims fairly straightforward (EX-L..."L" means leather), but I'll definitely add it to my queue. Thanks!
I have a 2021 XLE premium hybrid and I really like the car. My only complaints are really is the suspension and it’s a bit noisy. Love the the performance for how frugal it is. Has great hwy passing power and I’d love to try the prime next.
@@drivetorun4172 just feels a little soft under hard acceleration and fast lane change. Not that it’s terrible or anything, it’s just a surprisingly quick car, so it almost feels like it needs stiffer suspension. Still love the car and it’s got really usable power for getting 435 miles per tank.
Thanks! I'll move the Camry one up in my to-do list, but that's going to be a bit of work given how many trims (I think 13...) plus three different powertrains there are. I'll try to tackle it this weekend and post probably in about a week.
Great video, thank you for this! I'm interested in the Adventure, not 100% sure about the towing, but might need it one day when I'm out in the country!
I bought the TRD. It has built in GPS maps. The adventure you need to plug in your phone. I live in an area i dont get phone signal, so built in GPS is a MUST. adventure doesnt have premium speakers or backup cameras..... a friend of mine has the Hybrid. Hybrid is great but i think it depends where you live. The nearest town is 30 minutes away.. since the battery only charges when going under 40Kph, brake or coast... her battery is always almost dead cause shes never doing those things.... I think the hybrid would be great in the city..
Yes, you have to option up the TRD to get built-in GPS maps...one quick tip though, Google Maps does let you "download" maps to your phone in case you are out of signal range, and they'll still work (I use that feature quite a lot). The Adventure does come with a backup camera (all cars have to now...it's the law), but you do have to option either the Adventure or the TRD with their respective audio packages to get the upgraded JBL speakers.
We bought a XLE premium last year with weather and safety packages on it and absolutely love it, We had a 2014 previously and this is a 2021-a world of difference ! We didn’t get the hybrid model.
@@deankirkman7753 Wait I just bought a XLE premium 2022 today!! Anything you think maybe I should know to get the best deal? and how to use certain parts of the car!
@@genaxide Purchased the same vehicle (2022 Hybrid XLE Premium). Drove it for 100 miles on the first day and it was a pretty smooth ride. Currently, from all the research I've done, TrueCar and Carmax have been offering the best deals but you have to shop around. Additionally, I was told by a dealer who had inspected my trade in that in his opinion, CarMax would offer the best trade-in value.
Thanks. I was indecisive between xle and xle premium. This video clarifies it. Now about the mark-up pricing. I wanted share this with you guys to see if I ready strike a deal with this buy. 2022 rav4 xle. All weather packages, convenient packages, moonroof, and all weather floor mat; front wheel drive ( really no need for the AWD); for a final sale price of 35000. Is this a good deal? This is still pending, and I have 4 days left to back down with a full refund of my deposit. Thank you all!
Hi DriveToRun, where I can get the XLE PREMIUM in RAV-4 Hybryd Blizzard Pearl (special) color for the price you posted? One dealership asking more than your price shown.
My best advice is that if your local dealer is asking more than MSRP, expand your search to other dealers within a couple hundred miles (or even more). It'll take some effort, but you'll likely be able to find one that isn't charging more than MSRP, and then you can either fly and pick up the vehicle from the dealer or have it shipped.
@@drivetorun4172 Thanks. Now only if the damn thing would show up. Been waiting 5 months now and I only live a 30 minute drive from the factory that makes it. lol It's due any day now. But who knows when that is at this point. lol
That is certainly quite the wait, but at least you don't have to worry about your car being on a ship that's on fire (www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2022/02/23/ship-audi-bentley-porsche-still-floating-ocean/6906735001/)
I would really like the TRD, but I would also really like LED headlights. Are they easy to add on after buying? Wondering if the mounting/connection is any different or if it has to be programmed.
I wish someone do this type of comparison video about cars here in PR. The prices in PR are extremely ridiculous compared within the States. We have to pay a lot of extra money just because the taxes and over that the inflation rate that the dealerships are putting on the cars. It's been so frustrating to get a new car here. We usually pay over $10k vs what you pay in USA. IE, the rav4 you can pay over $50k and I'm not talking about the top of the line! Tacomas over $60k!🤦🏽♂️ And Tundras I guess would be over the $100k the TRD pro. Anw, thanks for the video, even though the prices are much higher here, this video helps a lot to understand the differences between the trims levels.
That's a bummer...I'm sorry to hear that! For us, in some cases, Canadians get the same cars $3-5k cheaper than the US when you do the currency conversion...global trade is weird...
CORRECTION: As a viewer rightly pointed out (thanks!), the TRD trim does come with a stainless steel front skid plate as standard (that was introduced on TRDs for the 2021+ model years). That still doesn't change my general opinion that the TRD isn't worth the additional cost, and a front skid plate still doesn't protect all of the underbody components, but it is something. Also, you can buy the skid plate as a standalone part from Toyota for approximately $400, and it should be a pretty simple install on any model.
fuck a hybrid more costly to repair keep it simple STUPID, this whole ''clean energy'' going green it's all a fucking scam lol, you cannot even build these vehicles or materials without fossil fuels, what ev is about is locking customers/3rd parties out of repairing their vehicles.
Given surveys have shown over 3/4 of Americans don't know how to change their own oil, I don't think a hybrid powertrain is what is preventing people from repairing their own vehicles. Major hybrid powertrain components also must be warrantied by the manufacturer for at least 8 years and 100k miles (and in some states it's 10 years/150k miles). Lastly, given hybrids have been on the market for 20+ years at this point, I think we're past the initial teething pains (especially those using Ni-mh batteries). Heck, direct fuel injection was a "complicated" technology at one time too, and now well over 50% of all cars sold in the US utilize that.
@@drivetorun4172 fuel injections been around since the 1950s avalible option on chevy bel airs, it didnt get wildely adopted untill later tho, but most mechanics dont even know how to work on hybrids tbh, it's just best to go all motor naturally aspirated and fuck the turbos also ''K.I.S.S.'' old military saying keep it simple stupid.
@@billybobbob3003 I understand that you are frustrated by the complex technology that all vehicles have. I chose a naturally aspirated engine to avoid complicated and expensive repairs, but tady's cars are far too complex for a DIYer to repair. even basic maintenance items could require costly tools and hours of study just to understand the new design of a modern car. I take my car to a trusted Honda specialist when it needs work done.
@@jaimieconroy36 lol dude its just common sense the more shit u have the more there is to break it's engineering 101
I've been looking for a clear, straight forward analysis of these trims for hours and I've gone from annoying 30 minute videos to convoluted articles, most of them on Toyota dealership websites (wtf), until I found this video. Thank you for getting straight to the point! It took me four hours to sift through all the fluff to reach the same conclusion you did in your succinct 7 min video.
Glad I could be of help!
My parents got a RAV4 limited gas for the same price as the RAV4 XLE premium but that was also in 2019 🤷♂️
Awesome me too
@@drivetorun4172 I suppose I need to number crunch, how long it would take to recoop the extra $ spent on the Hybrid AWD version, vs. gas.
If it's also more fun to drive - i.e a little more power, then I suppose that's an advantage as well.
It would be amazing if you continued this for 2023 models as well. You broke everything down well and it was a solid video. Thank you for taking the time to make these.
This is hands down the most informative video on Rav4 trims. If I look at the websites, i would have never be able to come to this conclusion. Thank you !!!
Right 👍👍👍👍👍
I can see tons of potential in this type of video. Short, comprehensive, and straight to the point. Keep them coming.
Thank you so much--I appreciate it!
I have the XSE. I buy Toyota for Reliability I'm also a single adult. This is the perfect vehicle if you don't have a family!
We just got our hands on a ‘22 RAV4 XLE. The markup is INSANE right now! This video confirmed we made the right choice! 😅 Thanks!
“In-sane to the Membrane!” You’re 100% correct!
Hi how much did you pay for the xle compared to the msrp shown on this video?
Ive been watching 2022 rav4 videos for last 2 weeks trying to figure out what trim to buy and cant believe TH-cam didn’t recommend your channel til I started watching sienna videos. Great info! put in deposit for xle base last week and feels good to get some confirmation.
Thanks for being real. I was initially leaning towards the XSE until I watched this video and I'm now settled for XLE. I now realize that the SE lineup is basically just for aesthetics.
I agree with you the XLE is the best choice.. I would personally go for The XLE Premium. The Adventure would be the one to go for if you wanted the more sporty trim without adding a lot more to the cost.
Hybrid or gas ?? Which one is the best?
In the market for a new Rav4, and I was puzzled about the differences in trim levels and which ones would be best for me. Your informative video helped clear that up really well, thank you!!
As a Toyota technician, I think this video kind of bypasses the differences between the radio/head units between the different trim levels. If you care about things such as navigation, automatic SOS services, remote starting, and audio quality, then the "in between" trim levels make a lot of sense since there is a total of difference between the Audio, Audio Plus, Premium Audio, and Premium Audio with JBL. The cost difference for the in-between models makes more sense in that way.
A small thing to note too, the LE trim cannot have roof crossbars installed since it doesn't come with the roof rail system- another strike down for that base trim.
Otherwise, great video! I wish our salesmen knew even a third of this.
how about the Dynamic Torque Vectoring All Wheel Drive with Rear Driveline Disconnect?
You have the most comprehensive video about the trim levels of the RAV4 5th Generation, regarding the cost. On top of the mark up as you mentioned, the dealerships may not have the colors and trim levels you might want. But overall your video is an excellent source of information to take a good decision of getting the most value for your dollars.
Very true--particularly if you are in a smaller market. I'd look at your nearest metro area where hopefully there are more dealers which will drive some of that mark-up down (I've got at least 10 Toyota dealers within 30mi of my house, and I've found multiple that aren't charging any mark-up). Even with that though, you are correct that finding the color or trim you want still may not be easy.
I’ have an 2020 RAV4 TRD and I truly love it, I just added a 2” lift Kit and 245/60/18 Wild Peaks A/T and it feel and drives completely different in a great way. It doesn’t feel little anymore or like a soccer mom SUV. Plan on putting some more off road/ overlanding upgraded into it as the years pass but gonna enjoy this ride. I was able to take out long commutes to work so losing MPG isn’t making me losses sleep. It’s perfect for my outdoor natured inspired, artist lifestyle.
Do you have link to the lift you got? I’m getting a woodland and want to lift it
I've been trying to figure out for hours what the difference is between the trims. This video simplifies everything.
I appreciate the comments and input. Just a few suggestions if you are planning to continue:
1) might be helpful if you get a better microphone for clarity.
2) I respect your opinion, but I think I disagree that there's certain trims. I think would be better if you mentioned what you lose out of each trim, how much more would it cost, and who might be interested in it. There was a time in my life that the LE was the only one I would have been able to afford. The XLE is an excellent option. The premium is really nice, and I agree, there's a reason why I think these are the two most popular selling. I just got my XSE hybrid. I wanted the power moon roof. I do like the outside trim a lot more. I go up to the mountains a lot, so the pano moon roof is excellent when I have passengers in the back and they can't see the beautiful view I get to see.
The limited... A lot of bells and whistles, but if you have the money and it's worth it to you, I respect that.
As far as suggesting other cars. I checked out every car that was suggested to me while I was shopping. And this one fit on my needs for being practical yet rugged and versatile. I know there's some higher end cars or more affordable similar SUVs, but I could go down the list and tell you why each one didn't work for me.
Thanks for the input though. Hope mine was helpful
XLE AWD seems perfect for me! Enough technology without being too overloaded. Really glad it still has terrain selection modes as well
This video helped me buy a 23 Rav4 Hybrid XLE. Wonder why you stopped making or updating these. I personally got a lot of value and consider these the most useful videos on YT for a serious and yet novice or first time car buyer who does not know what trim to get. You provide serious analysis on why people should (or not) consider certain trims without fluff.
You helped me to finally be able to decide which Rav 4 to buy. I have watched so many videos over the last 6 months, and you cleared up so much for me. The other videos left me more confused. Thank you.
Nice job. Potential buyers need to know the pros / cons and what it's worth to move into a higher trim level. This is a nice niche you have carved out for your videos. Thanks.
Thank you-I really appreciate it!
Thanks for creating this video. It was very informative and I was teetering between the XLE or the SE series. You helped me solidify my option if and when I decide to get a new vehicle.
Awesome--glad I could be of help! Good luck in your search!
Hands down, the best and to the point trim comparison.
Thank you so much
We rented a RAV4 last month. Liked it. Saw your video today, wished I had seen it before we rented to get a much better fix on exactly what we were driving. I could have figured in your observations and expertise. Like so many others, compliments for an excellent, comprehensive RAV4 tutorial.
That’s super nice of you to say-thank you!!
At least you rented it rather than purchasing it.
I have a 2021 Limited Hybrid with now 35,000 miles. Love it. Actual calculated MPG is 43 overall.
I hope you get that 3-4 yrs down the road due to battery degradation.
I’ve been looking at used RAV4 and debating between XLE and Adventure! This is the best and most useful video I’ve seen yet! Thank you!
This video was really informative out of all I’ve seen out there in TH-cam. Just ordered my Rav4 xle “lunar rock” color last week. Hopefully it doesn’t take that long to arrive.
Wow amazing so much more clear and concise than many of the other breakdown videos hope you do more of these and specifically for this year‘s model SUVs
This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you so much!
Found you from a Reddit comment. Straight forward and simple with basic table charts. I like it. Thanks!
Great work. Helpful video that go straight on point to compare so many trim options and clears the confusion on what trims to consider. Saves hundreds of minutes of reading various blogs and websites that do not offer clear answers.
Thanks--that's exactly what I was trying to achieve, so I'm glad it was helpful!
Very nice breakdown! Had already narrowed my choice down to the XLE Premium and this pretty much confirmed that choice.
Good choice! I bought a 2021 XLE Premium (gas version) in April 2021 just before the inventory problems started. I'm in Canada and the XLE Premium at that time was an extra $3800 over the XLE. IMO, it was worth it to get the nicer 19" alloys, Softex seats, bigger screen, memory seats and a few other goodies. We love it and the gas mileage is superb!!!
Great explanation! Is scoured all over TH-cam for a concise comparison like this in the rav4. Going with the xle hybrid with moonroof and heated seats
Awesome! Glad I could be of help!
Hi, I just bought a 21 RAV4 XLE with Cold Weather Package threw Coscto auto program. Glad to see I picked a smart trim level. Thank you, very informative !!
Congratulations Roy! Thank you!!
I'm considering costco auto program as well. How was your experience with them?
You found a dealer that participates in the Costco Auto program during the supply chain shortage?!? Everyone's been telling me that they aren't honoring at this time due to high demand/low inventory.
@@meganmcdonald7405 yes I left a deposit in November.
I like your quick look at all the Rav4 trims. I am seriously considering a purchase of a new Rav4. Thank you for showing all the trim levels, it helped me find the right vehicle.
Absolutely--glad it was helpful!
There's way too many trims and not enough differences between each one to give each one a unique distinction.
Many features on the XLE should be standard on the base LE model. The base model should at least come with blind spot monitoring and rear cross traffic alert, smart key and push button start, 17" alloy wheels, 6 way power driver seat, etc
I 1000% agree with you. The number of trims manufacturers are making these days is ridiculous...makes me think that if they simplified things a bit more, maybe it'd be easier for them to get the parts they needed :)
Does XLE come with heated seats? Does XLE premium come with heated and cooled?
Go and buy American brand and not the Japanese once.
@@MilkyWayGalaxyy no they don’t. every trim that does come with heated seats gets it in the weather package for around $800 to $1000 more. bullshit. highlander and sienna do get it standard on xle and higher trims i believe.
@@shantanumankar5383 never. i will never buy american cars. i want a dependable car that doesn’t need a lot of repairs and maintenance. toyotas are statistically significantly more reliable than fords, chevys, gmcs, and dodges.
Thank you so much!!! Very informative and straightforward video!
Thank you, your videos are short and concise with all the information needed. Great job 👏 and thank you!
Purchased the TRD Rav4, and I do not regret it one second. It is beautiful, works for me and it met every check mark I was searching for and then some. Do we really need a TRD rav4? If I buy a corvette, do I have to take it racing. Sometimes, purchasing a vehicle is about appreciating the machine it is. Like who needs a Lamborghini SUV. Get the car you want and dont let anyone say its not for you.
Thank you. This video really helped me decide which trim to go with; and of course I went with the XLE Hybrid. I agree with the recommendations and I also compared the differences on Toyota site as well and added my preferred options. Thanks for a great video!
For Plug-In hybrid also do u recommend XLE \XLE Premium. Please let me know. Thanks for great video
So, the plug-in hybrid only comes in the SE and XSE trims (at least in the US). Of those, if you can afford to get the XSE, I think the extra cost is worth what you get (SynTex, moonroof, larger infotainment screen, auto-dim rearview mirror with Homelink, etc.), and with the XSE, you have a larger set of options to choose from to make it closer to whatever you want.
XLE Premuim Hybrid. The Topgun configuration. #1.
Can you do the 2023 and 2024 models? 🤔
The best and most efficient comparison!
I got an adventure for the towing capacity added 2 lift kit and the metal skid plate. I do off light roading and these mods seem to help. I like the fuel economy as well.
Sounds like a nice build! If the TRD actually came with a lifted suspension, then I could justify recommending it, but in its current state, I think you did the right thing modding an Adventure-enjoy!
So I have a woodland coming to me next month but I did think to save money to go with the adventure, your thoughts?
Wow these comments are spot on! Best video I’ve seen and makes my decision a no-brainer: xle premium hybrid lol. Thank you!! Always thought how odd it is they have a million different trims.
Great Review and well detailed, Thanks.
My question: 1. does all the trims come with Apple & Android car play 2. Does any of it come with Wireless charging pad?
Awaiting your kind response. Thanks
You're welcome! 1) Yes, but I'm not sure if any of them offer wireless CarPlay/Android Auto (meaning you may have to connect your phone with a cable to have those platforms work). 2) None of them come with a wireless charging pad as standard. It's optional on the (Hybrid) XLE Premium, TRD, (Hybrid) Limited, and (Hybrid & Prime) XSE. And honestly, if wireless CarPlay/Android Auto isn't available, then the wireless charging pad almost becomes a moot point because most people will connect their phone with the cable to get CarPlay/Android Auto, at which point, their phone will charge through the cable anyway
Really great break down. I have three family members who bought this gen RAV4, first one bought the Limited AWD Hybrid, which features a kick to open hatch feature. That was removed when a Toyota spec trailer hitch was added. Next member bought an LE AWD Hybrid. Now the third member has ordered and XLE AWD Hybrid. All Canadian, so specs are slightly different to this. And now there are used Primes on the market...for $10-$15k over new prices.
I never thought about how a kick to open hatch could be incompatible with a tow hitch...interesting! Thank you!
Yeah the Toyota hitch integrates into the rear bumper right where the sensors are, at least that's how the couple installs I've seen were done. After market hitches sit under the bumper and might not interfere with the sensors.
Thanks for the info! TBH, I feel like the kick to open hatches are a bit more gimmicky than actually being useful. I've never been in a situation where I've thought to myself, "I really wish I could just swipe my foot under the rear bumper to open the hatch," but then again, I've never lived with one that had that feature, so I could be wrong.
Hi I appreciate your thoroughness on the rav4 trims. I was wondering if you could do a similar video for the corolla cross? Thanks.
Absolutely! It was already on my to-do list, but I'll move it up in the queue. I'll get it out within the next week
You did an excellent job here!
I have 2022 le AWD gas and love it , mine has blind sept monitoring , bought it used here in Canada with only 3700 km at 2 yeats old , now at 13000km and bought this trim level as it was a deal and low km and very happy with it, got a near new vehicle . Added some Toyota oem aluminum rims .
One of the best Rav4 videos I've seen here. I had decided on getting an XLE Hybrid. Your video confirms my decision. Wonder why no driver seatback map pockets?
Thank you! Yes, a driver's seatback pocket is only offered on the Prime XSE...all due to attempts at cost-cutting I'm sure...
They introduce it at the next trim level. Literally map pockets are now part of "Optional features." That said, I bought a Limited and totally feel it was worth it... including for the map pockets.
Good video, another reason I chose the XLE Premium was the better-looking wheels and you also get, at least in the 2023 model, a dual memory driver's seat.
Just in case you want leather seats but don’t want to pay 3k more or have moon roof and power lift gate for xle premium, I just ordered a 22 rav4 xle and custom ordered leather seats and it ran me $1495 even for upgrade. Saves 1500 dollars for what it’s worth!
Thanks for the brief but informative comparison. Very helpful. Is the ride long distance as comfortable & quiet as a highlander?
My requirements (among Toyota cars) were: Look good (2-tone) and be a hybrid. The only trim that fits that bill for me is the XSE. Maybe you can modify the other trims to look like the XSE, but I prefer everything to be perfect out of the box. I imagine I'll drive this for the rest of my life (not in a 3-wish genie sort of way), but who knows.
That makes complete sense! As I mentioned, the SE or XSE work if you love the styling changes and are willing to pay extra for them (and car buying has never been a 100% left brain exercise anyway). Plus, if you're planning on keeping it for a really long time, the additional incremental cost will be a wash in the end. Enjoy!
I was the same. My big thing was I wanted the pano moonroof. That only came on the xse. Plus I loved the two tone and it’s a hybrid. It’s why I went out of my way to find one last year over an xle or even xle premium.
I have to admit, that I went with the XSE because of the pearl and shiny black trim. Pretty fun driving around in something that looks like a stormtrooper. LOL
If it brings you joy every time you see it, then it's well worth the extra cost!
Same - Hybrid is a MUST for any car I buy. XSE is the best option if a hybrid engine is important.
This video is straight GAS! I wish more people made videos like these. Seriously.
Super clear and helpful. Thank you for putting this comparison together.
Absolutely--thank you!
Hi, I liked your video very much, could you please make a video comparing the corolla Cross trims with RAV4 trims and based on standard features which one makes sense to buy. Thank!
Thanks! I probably won't do a specific Corolla Cross to RAV4 comparison, but if you hadn't seen it already, I did a trim analysis of the Corolla Cross too (here: th-cam.com/video/oXS-BPXF20I/w-d-xo.html). In my opinion, if you were planning on getting a gas-only powertrain and don't plan on using the rear seats much, I'd go with the Corolla Cross over the RAV4. However, if getting a hybrid or having more rear seat space is important to you, then the RAV4 makes more sense. I hope that's helpful!
FANTASTIC VIDEO! I'm happy I was already looking hard at the XLE
Thanks for the informative video, I've been watching this over and over again because I am thinking of getting maybe a hybrid xle or hybrid xle premium. I noticed that the battery between the two trim is different. Does it matter? Which is better? Is weather package reasonable to add or I could just add a heated seat on xle hybrid?
Not an expert, but I do believe there is no option of just adding “heated seats only” to the XLE. As far as I understand, you’d have to add the whole XLE weather package.
@@mistym0rning ohhh, then why this toyota salesperson told me that they cannot control what model or package it could have. It depends on the delivery of the maker. Because when I talked to them, I specifically told then that I want the weather package and he suggested that if its not available they could just add the heated seat in their facility. Am I being fooled by this dealership person or they just want additional income?
One of the best information I was looking for
Keep doing this is very helpful
Great video! Thanks! Does the vectoring torque AWD on Adventure make any difference on top of extra towing?
I ordered an XLE with convenience and cold weather package. Also mud flaps and wheel locks . My first Hybrid 😎 I picked it up last month and great so far.
Awesome--congratulations!
Just reserved that same configuration. Any tips on points of negotiation? @Robert Poole
My two cents...in this market, your biggest leverage is probably your trade-in (if you have one). Do a bit of legwork and get offers from Carmax, Carvana, Vroom, etc. and know what the highest one is before heading into the dealer.
Best comparison ever on TH-cam!! Thank you and thank you!!
I wish I had seen this video before I bought my Rav4. The reasons you mentioned are the exact reason I want to change my car
Best review finally!! This is exactly what I needed to hear! Thank you!!
This is the best analysis / guide for consumers ... Thank you for your video .....
That's so nice of you to say--thank you!
Thanks for the video. Was leaning towards LE but most probably will go for XLE
Glad I could help!
The LE is too much bare bones.. I would at least want push start and blind spot monitoring on the vehicle at that price point not to mention alloy wheels..
awesome video, wish you'd continue these types of videos
I got a brand new 2022 RAV4 Hybrid. I've got 1,500 miles on it commuting to and from work. Here in Maine, if I use eco, stay 5 mph under the speed limit, and drive like my grandmother, I am lucky to get 32 mpg from my hybrid in January, February, and March. I went to the dealer today and they said, "Oh yea, you'll get 10 mpg more in the summer... if you don't use your air conditioning." I like the car, but don't expect to get any where near the stated mpg. It's better than the 22 mpg I was getting from my old Subaru Legacy, but my son gets better mileage from his non-hybrid Subaru Impreza.
Wow, good story.
I agree that XLE and XLE premium are typically the way to go, but you forgot to mention the upgraded, darker 18 inch wheels with the premium that look great IMO.
Thanks! Different colored rims are really subjective in terms of whether that's a plus or minus (I know people who feel strongly in both directions), and the different color really doesn't cost much more for Toyota to make, so I tend not to call that stuff out to justify spending more for a particular trim.
Okay so I am deciding between XLE and XLE premium. By Darker wheels do you mean black wheels? Also does the basic XLE come with push to start and rear vents?
I really hate the fender flares. Do you think they will take those off in 1 or 2 years?
Black wheels are really pretty!!
Great video. Thank you. Im planning to get a xle hybrid but it's missing fog lights. Can I have the fog lights installed as an aftermarket accessory?
Yes, typically you can install fog lights as an aftermarket accessory, but they aren't listed as an "official" one through Toyota. It's possible the XLE's are pre-wired for the fog lights (there is some precedent for that), but looking through the parts catalogue, the new plastic facias and bulb will run you about $250/side. So, you're probably at least $500 pre-install assuming they are pre-wired. If not, it'll get more expensive. Of course, you could go non-OEM too.
@@drivetorun4172 appreciate the response. Thank you very much for the details. You are right on.. One of the dealership based out of NC quoted 589$ to fit these on Xle hybrid.
Thanks for this video, just placed a down payment for a Rav Adventure being delivered and this reassured my choice! Towing would be utilized, thanks again🙌🏽
That’s awesome-congratulations! Enjoy!!
MSRP includes everything, delivery, etc EXCEPT Taxes?
I really don't like the fender flares. Were they always on the Rav4 or will they go away in 1 or 2 years?
Subscribed. Very nice details of all the trim in very efficient and easy way. If you do this for all the SUV's it will be great for your channel.
Thank you! Yes, the Corolla Cross is going to be the next video that gets posted (before the end of the week), and I'll continue to work my way through the other SUVs.
This was an excellent review. We’re in the market for buying a RAV4 and this convinced us of the XLE premium
Thank you!!
Does the same logic apply to 2023 models? What about in colder climates? Are hybrids/hybrid plug-ins worth it? I checked, and we do have a hybrid vehicle incentive program in my country.
Thank you for this will definitely be considering the XLE Hybrid now thanks. I’ve been back and fourth with this and the other trims.
Glad I could be of help!
Exactly. Back and forth. Too many trims. It's confusing. I am concerned about having to replace the hybrid battery on top of the additional upfront costs for the hybrid. I just don't think I will drive enough to make that 5k cost worth it in the end.
Love your videos. Easy to understand which trim is the best. Will you have time to do a video for cr-v vs rav4?
Thank you! However, unfortunately, I probably won't be doing direct head-to-head comparison between those two. My videos are generally targeted at people who have decided which car they're going to get, but haven't decided on the trim. I do that because I haven't driven all these cars myself, so it's hard to say which one is a "better value" without getting personal experience with the respective powertrains, etc. Taking the RAV4 and CR-V as an example, for the gas models, the RAV4 is powered by a naturally-aspirated engine with an 8 speed transmission vs. the CR-V that has a turbo engine and CVT transmission. Those powertrains will have a very different feel to them, so the best thing to do is go and test drive and see which you prefer, and then decide a trim from there. Sorry I can't be of more help!
@@drivetorun4172 I learn a lot watching from your vids. I watch many times in between both of your vids and you help me to eliminate a lot of what if to pick those trims. Both of these cars are very durable and reliable. But I do agree that a test drive will be the best option. Please don’t be sorry and I appreciate all of your good work. Thanks so much
@@andychan9106 Great! If you're interested, my personal favorite TH-cam car review channel is: th-cam.com/users/DrivenCarReviews. I think Tom does a great job
@@drivetorun4172 thanks for the recommendation. Just finish the MDX
What are your thoughts on the Subaru Forrester or Outback wilderness
Taking a quick look, I think the Forester Wilderness makes more sense than the Outback Wilderness because you actually get a more unique feature-set with the Forester (on the Outback, the Wilderness is nearly identical to the Onyx XT except you get +0.8" of ground clearance and all-terrain tires). The main thing to keep in mind for both is that you do loose quite a bit of highway fuel economy, so only you can decide if you'll use the extra Wilderness capability enough to justify that additional on-going cost. No matter what though, to be clear, the Wilderness package isn't anything like a Rubicon package on a Jeep or Badlands on a Bronco if you're truly looking for off-road capability.
So glad I got the 2022 XLE (not premium) but with the weather package and convenience package. I got moonroof, power liftgate, mudguards, cargo rubber liner etc
Awesome--congrats!
Does it have remote start?
What does weather package include?
@@melissagandy1839 only thing it doesn’t have..
@@E_Rice heated steering wheel, heated seats, I think also the rubber floor mats and cargo rubber mat and mud flaps are part of it
Really informative video. I don’t know if this changed since you made it, but in ‘23 the limited comes standard with the 10.5 screen/11 speaker jbl sound system and upgraded speedo display. For me the audio upgrade makes a big difference.
I have a question as I am looking on getting the XLE Premium or the Hybrid XLE Premium. Which one would you get and why? I am having a hard time deciding. To give you more context I will be a grad student in Columbus, OH, but buying my car in MN since that is my hometown before moving in August. In addition, this was a fantastic video!!
I am glad I came across this video, I wanted the hybrid but nope after seeing how much a battery cost when they go bad is 14-16 grand. So I’m looking at the adventure or limited. I want a sunroof and ventilation seats. Does the adventure come with this ?
Just a note that the hybrid battery replacement is closet to $2-5k, and thats only after the 10 year/150k mile warranty which should cover the cost
one more difference: XLE wheel is 17 inch compared to XLE premium which is 18 inch. I bought XLE premium over XLE, as the price difference for me was just $800 with the packages my dealer added to them.
Yeah, I'm guessing you got the hybrid then (the gas-only XLE premium comes with 19"; the hybrid XLE premium comes with 18"). Quite frankly, in the name of simplicity, I try to focus on differences that are more feature-oriented than appearance since those differences can sometimes be harder to identify (it's relatively easy to see a size/style difference when comparing a vehicle side-by-side). But, you are absolutely correct!
I was going to make the same statement about those Hybrid trims. I was going back and forth with those two and plan on purchasing the premium also.
Great Video. I was stuck on choosing between the xle premium and limited, but decided to go with the xle premium and add the options for the audio plus, weather package and technology package, which would about equal to the msrp for the limited. Im also not a fan of the limited’s chrome finishes on the door handles and rear end, but it looks amazing on the grill.
Sounds like you're making a smart, well-informed choice! Best of luck!
Aprox, what's a new Rav4 XLE go for without tax? Are they marking up alot over MSRP?
If you go to 0:15 in the video, you can see the pricing for the XLE (in FWD, AWD, or Hybrid forms). In terms of marking up a lot over MSRP, I'm sure there are some dealers that are, but you can also find dealers that aren't. If you look at various forums (like this one: www.4runners.com/threads/msrp-dealerships-list-them.20301/) you can find lists of dealerships that are only charging MSRP.
Thank you so much for this video! This definitely help me better my decision on The XLE premium
Great video. How about a similar video on the 2022 Accord Hybrid trims?
Honda's generally aren't as complicated because they keep their trims fairly straightforward (EX-L..."L" means leather), but I'll definitely add it to my queue. Thanks!
I have a 2021 XLE premium hybrid and I really like the car. My only complaints are really is the suspension and it’s a bit noisy. Love the the performance for how frugal it is. Has great hwy passing power and I’d love to try the prime next.
Awesome! Out of curiosity, what about the suspension don’t you like?
@@drivetorun4172 just feels a little soft under hard acceleration and fast lane change. Not that it’s terrible or anything, it’s just a surprisingly quick car, so it almost feels like it needs stiffer suspension. Still love the car and it’s got really usable power for getting 435 miles per tank.
Interesting--thanks for sharing!
God I wish Toyota dealership was as clear and concise as you
That's really nice of you to say--thanks!
Very logical comparison, saves a lot of time, can you do a similar trim video for Camry 2022
Thanks! I'll move the Camry one up in my to-do list, but that's going to be a bit of work given how many trims (I think 13...) plus three different powertrains there are. I'll try to tackle it this weekend and post probably in about a week.
Great video, thank you for this! I'm interested in the Adventure, not 100% sure about the towing, but might need it one day when I'm out in the country!
Absolutely! I'm glad it was helpful!
I bought the TRD. It has built in GPS maps. The adventure you need to plug in your phone. I live in an area i dont get phone signal, so built in GPS is a MUST. adventure doesnt have premium speakers or backup cameras..... a friend of mine has the Hybrid. Hybrid is great but i think it depends where you live. The nearest town is 30 minutes away.. since the battery only charges when going under 40Kph, brake or coast... her battery is always almost dead cause shes never doing those things.... I think the hybrid would be great in the city..
Yes, you have to option up the TRD to get built-in GPS maps...one quick tip though, Google Maps does let you "download" maps to your phone in case you are out of signal range, and they'll still work (I use that feature quite a lot). The Adventure does come with a backup camera (all cars have to now...it's the law), but you do have to option either the Adventure or the TRD with their respective audio packages to get the upgraded JBL speakers.
We bought a XLE premium last year with weather and safety packages on it and absolutely love it, We had a 2014 previously and this is a 2021-a world of difference ! We didn’t get the hybrid model.
Awesome! Did you end up getting a FWD or AWD model?
@@drivetorun4172 just the front wheel drive-it handles amazing !
@@deankirkman7753 Wait I just bought a XLE premium 2022 today!! Anything you think maybe I should know to get the best deal? and how to use certain parts of the car!
@@genaxide Purchased the same vehicle (2022 Hybrid XLE Premium). Drove it for 100 miles on the first day and it was a pretty smooth ride. Currently, from all the research I've done, TrueCar and Carmax have been offering the best deals but you have to shop around. Additionally, I was told by a dealer who had inspected my trade in that in his opinion, CarMax would offer the best trade-in value.
@@deankirkman7753 How much did you pay total? I am deciding between the XLE and XLE premium. Is it really worth it?
Thanks. I was indecisive between xle and xle premium. This video clarifies it. Now about the mark-up pricing. I wanted share this with you guys to see if I ready strike a deal with this buy. 2022 rav4 xle. All weather packages, convenient packages, moonroof, and all weather floor mat; front wheel drive ( really no need for the AWD); for a final sale price of 35000. Is this a good deal? This is still pending, and I have 4 days left to back down with a full refund of my deposit. Thank you all!
Hi DriveToRun, where I can get the XLE PREMIUM in RAV-4 Hybryd Blizzard Pearl (special) color for the price you posted? One dealership asking more than your price shown.
My best advice is that if your local dealer is asking more than MSRP, expand your search to other dealers within a couple hundred miles (or even more). It'll take some effort, but you'll likely be able to find one that isn't charging more than MSRP, and then you can either fly and pick up the vehicle from the dealer or have it shipped.
I bought a FWD LE trim. I don’t want all that extra electronics fluff that is just going to cost me thousands in repairs when it breaks.
Congrats!
@@drivetorun4172 Thanks. Now only if the damn thing would show up. Been waiting 5 months now and I only live a 30 minute drive from the factory that makes it. lol
It's due any day now. But who knows when that is at this point. lol
That is certainly quite the wait, but at least you don't have to worry about your car being on a ship that's on fire (www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2022/02/23/ship-audi-bentley-porsche-still-floating-ocean/6906735001/)
@@drivetorun4172 LMAO! Yeah I saw that story. It's kinda hard to feel bad for rich ass Porsche owners though. They can afford almost any car.
5yrs down the, road are you going to get the same fuel mileage in the hybrid.?I’m looking at the adventure and the fuel mileage isn’t too bad.
Great video! On point and crisp!
I would really like the TRD, but I would also really like LED headlights. Are they easy to add on after buying? Wondering if the mounting/connection is any different or if it has to be programmed.
Yes you can switch out the old lamps to the updated 2023 led rav4 lights 👍
I wish someone do this type of comparison video about cars here in PR. The prices in PR are extremely ridiculous compared within the States. We have to pay a lot of extra money just because the taxes and over that the inflation rate that the dealerships are putting on the cars. It's been so frustrating to get a new car here. We usually pay over $10k vs what you pay in USA. IE, the rav4 you can pay over $50k and I'm not talking about the top of the line! Tacomas over $60k!🤦🏽♂️
And Tundras I guess would be over the $100k the TRD pro. Anw, thanks for the video, even though the prices are much higher here, this video helps a lot to understand the differences between the trims levels.
That's a bummer...I'm sorry to hear that! For us, in some cases, Canadians get the same cars $3-5k cheaper than the US when you do the currency conversion...global trade is weird...
@@drivetorun4172 I have to mention, we use us dollars. The problem is the taxes and fees.