I thought old dune was fun but after watching it, I felt like this is infinately better because it let the story unfold organically and didn't make paul as hero. I also liked that alia is a baby, its so creepy that jessica is discussing creepy plans with fetus lol
Problem was that the studio took away Final Cut from David Lynch who directed the 1984 version, that’s why from around the hour mark, it becomes erratic and a mess. He said it would be around 3-4 hours and the cut off half the movie.
@@GavinRamonShow If you want to see the best adaptation from a story perspective, watch the mini series that was produced for television. "Frank Herbert's Dune". It is by far the most faithful adaptation although has very poor production standards.
@@GavinRamonShow Why did Feyd meet Dame Margot and tell her I'd dreamt about her last night What did he mean when he said I dreamt about you last night and that he knew about the power of the Bene Gesserit? How did he know that she was a Bene Gesserit and why did she make him take the Gom Jabbar test and not Mohiam la mère revêtante or Paul passe dans dune 1 why did they choose Lady Margot to take the Gom Jabbar test for me Feyd and how did she know which corridor he was in
@@BENNY-CROSS.VANDALS-CHICAGONohiam couldn’t test him herself because his previous issues with his own mother and she saw herself as a'motherly figure'…
The choice of Chani’s character was certainly a bit of a change from the novel, giving her her own distinct motivations and characterization wherein her love for Paul and her people is why she can’t accept him as the Mahdi. This change was ultimately done by Villeneuve so he could tell the story of Dune without making the mistake Frank Herbert admitted he did, being too subtle about Paul. Many people after Dune was published still saw Paul Atreides as a hero, even though Herbert vehemently wished to portray the opposite, a reality which Herbert owned up to in his motivations for later novels. I think one can argue Herbert’s more one dimensional characterization of Chani kinda contributes to this-since it gives Paul no personal repercussions in the book. Him becoming cult leader doesn’t truly meaning anything for him in a way that harmful to the self, it doesn’t alienate those he loves in the book, which might have hurt Herbert’s intention. In the movie however, Paul becoming Kwizats Haderach has to truly mean the death of Paul Atreides in a lot of ways, and this costs him dearly with regards to those he truly loves. Also, it helps further drive in a point of how Chani represents the fremen. Chani at the end rides a sandworm while the others go off into spaceships, something the fremen NEVER DID. This is a key point of characterization for the whole of the fremen. The more they follow the Mahdi in a fanatical way, the more actually out of touch with their culture they become. Their culture is taken over by Paul and Jessica’s influence, their cult of personality. Hence, at the end of the day, it’s Chani who knows Paul Atreides as simply the boy she loves and not as any messiah, who is still the one acting like a fremen, riding the worms, etc.
@@GavinRamonShow Why did Feyd meet Dame Margot and tell her I'd dreamt about her last night? What did he mean when he said I dreamt about you last night and that he knew about the power of the Bene Gesserit How did he know that she was a Bene Gesserit and why did she make him take the Gom Jabbar test and not Mohiam la mère revêtante or Paul passe dans dune 1 why did they choose Lady Margot to take the Gom Jabbar test for me Feyd and how did she know which corridor he was in
@@BENNY-CROSS.VANDALS-CHICAGO lady fenring met feyd because mohaim said a motherly figure wouldn’t be effective. Fenring’s ability to sexually attract him is useful as they wanted to secure his bloodline.
@@vhufeosqapBene Gesserit How did he know that she was a Bene Gesserit and why did she make him take the Gom Jabbar test and not Mohiam la mère revêtante or Paul passe dans dune 1 why did they choose Lady Margot to take the Gom Jabbar test for me Feyd and how did she know which corridor he was in
@@vhufeosqap Why didn't Mohiam make him take the gom jabbar test like she did for Paul and how did Margot know where Feyd was in the hallway where the fireworks are heard? How do Mohiam and Jessica know that Feyd murdered his mother and why did he kill his mother
Highly recommend it when you are in the right mood. It's so rewarding to watch both parts back to back. I consider it one movie in two parts. @@GavinRamonShow
@@GavinRamonShow Why didn't Mohiam make him take the gom jabbar test like she did for Paul and how did Margot know where me Feyd was in the hallway where the fireworks are heard How do Mohiam and Jessica know that me Feyd murdered his mother and why did he kill his mother
24:45 is where, watching this in the cinema for the first time, this went from "great film" to "greatest film". And I thought that from the sandworm riding scene, and it just kept getting better. Incredible.
When you say that this was less brutal than the original -- the original was the book. David Lynch actually seemed like he didn't like the books because he changed the whole theme, and turned it into kind of a hero's journey. Frank Herbert's novel was meant as a cautionary tale against creating and following Messiahs. Paul IS NOT really a hero. The Bene Gesserit were trying to create an individual that would create the future that they wanted, and planted the prophesies in order to control the Fremen. However, when Jessica broke with the plan, they created the circumstances for their own destruction, and that of the empire. Paul uses the Fremen for his own personal revenge, even though he knows that the result will be a bloody Jihad that will devastate many worlds. He's only a hero in the same respect that Genghis Khan could be considered a hero.
okay i need some clarity. paul created an alliance with the fremen for revenge and also because his father said it was necessary. everything he does before taking the water of life is strategical and not in an evil sense. Once he does take it, he doesn’t become a tyrant, he can literally see everything all at once. isn’t he choosing the greater good amongst every single possibility? it’s not merciless and power driven killing like a Genghis Khan figure, it’s a man that knows everything doing what must be done right?? *if the answer to this is in the books or answered in dune messiah just say that, don’t explain lol
@@mdemi7692 Paul never wanted to become a tyrant. What happened was the movement grew beyond his control and takes a life of its own. Paul starts something and then loses control of it the Fremen believe in the cause so much that they won’t listen to Paul anymore. A lot will be explained in Messsiah that shows this. Messiah sort of wraps up Paul’s story for the most part but Paul’s story doesn’t completely finish until the book after that Children of Dune. After that it’s Paul’s son Leto II that becomes the emperor and stuff gets wildly weird and bad….But with Leto II the God Emperor it’s all means to an end and for a good purpose even though it’s as horrible as it gets.
@@senantiasa True, from our western viewpoint Alexander the Great was a Hero, but to the Persians he was a blood thirsty conqueror. It’s all about where you stand.
@@senantiasa have you read the books? Because if not your point is moot. Yes, Paul is the perceived hero in the first book and he liberates Arrakis, so good points for that… No one would view the Harkonnens as the good guys even with a western point of view (chip on your shoulder much?)After they liberate Arrakis they go on to destroy virtually every house in the imperium and kill 61 billion people in the process….If you still view him as the hero after that I’d question your moral standing. Frank Herbert has said many times the idea he was trying to portray is the danger of a charismatic leader and in the story Paul knowingly uses the Fremen beliefs for his benefit of getting revenge on the baron and emperor. Granted the book readers have knowledge of what happens, but literally everyone I’ve watched watch Dune has come to the same conclusion of “oh wait, isn’t Paul supposed to be the good guy?” Freeing your land= Good…Killing tens of billions for your leader after you have freed your home world= Bad.
@@ryanhampson673 No, I haven't read the books. What is the motivation for the Fremen to kill billions of people? Because at least in the movies, the Emperor destroyed House of Atreides because Duke Leto ruled with his heart (meaning that the other houses don't rule with their heart, because then the Emperor would have destroyed those houses too). But I've also heard that in the book, the Emperor wiped out the Atreides because its army is becoming the strongest in the Imperium. Why did the Great Houses reject Paul as Emperor? Is it because they still want the old, evil Emperor to rule? Or is it because they want to rule Arrakis themselves? Or is it because they don't believe that the Fremen have the right to rule over their own land? It seems like the Great Houses "chose the wrong side". I'm assuming that it was these houses that ruled over Arrakis before the Harkonnens (because the Harkonnens ruled for 80 years, yet the Fremen have been ruled/oppressed/enslaved for centuries). So those are my two questions about the books.
The Water of Life was basically super concentrated spice. Up until Paul only the Bene Gesserit could survive drinking it because they were trained to neutralize the poison aspect of it. It unlocks ancestral memories along the female bloodlines. For Paul, since he was a male, he was able to access both his female and male genetic memories. It also gave him the ability to see all possible outcomes of things in the future. So basically he had perfect prescience of the future and of the past through his genetic memories. That’s what the Bene Gesserit were after.
Paul knew he couldn't defeat Fyed normally so he let himself get stabbed in a stop where he could pull out the knife and surprise Fyed. It was a very strategic act.
I avoided it cos I wanted to cover the movie on here. Trust me I will be seeing replays when they show in London again. They will probably do both parts at some point. Thanks for watching
This was such a wholesome reaction! This was a lot of fun! Chani and Paul love each other too much, so even though she’s heartbroken now they are sure to find their way back to each other in Dune 3. Cutting child Alia was a big decision but I think they handled it really well with having her communicating with Jessica throughout the film and then the visions. She still feels like she’s there.
@@desertspring9174 I know, now for the long wait. I don’t mind waiting a few years. It’s well worth the wait. Check out EMMA with her if you have not seen it. She is just great
@@desertspring9174 another very good movie and she is in Furiosa which is out soon I think. Yeah, I just think she is a very strong actress. Her scene on the boat in The Northman was the best part to me
Feyd-Rautha may have found the sietch to destroy it because he is also prescient - there’s a few hints he might be, such as dreaming of Margot and Paul’s inability to foresee the attack on the sietch. It’s difficult for the prescient to see anything another prescient could counteract. The director also indicated Feyd is meant to be more of a mirror to Paul and more of a legitimate threat - the idea that Feyd could have been Paul if he’d had the same resources. I think it’s purposely left unclear if that’s why Feyd holds his own against Paul - though Paul at that point is so omniscient that he maybe chose to let the fight play out the way it did. In the book, Lord Fenring blocks Paul’s sight at the fight, but in this case it may have been Feyd.
Ahhhh that’s interesting, thanks for sharing. Yes I have read the book and have Messiah to read and the 3rd which I can’t remember the name of. It’s great that we are getting a movie for fans to talk about though and share thoughts about.
Brilliant comment I hadn't considered what you said but that makes perfect sense. The Harkonnens are part of the cross breeding experiment to produce the one.
@@greysongreyhater7667Why didn't Mohiam make him take the gom jabbar test like she did for Paul and how did Margot know where Feyd was in the hallway where the fireworks are heard How do Mohiam and Jessica know that Feyd murdered his mother and why did he kill his mother
2:03 the reason they're using guns now is they can't use shields in the desert because it will drive the worms into a killing frenzy. And they're also using lasers again because they're not using shields. If a laser hits a shield it causes a tremendous explosion in both devices. This is something the movie doesn't make clear. 13:22 Chani is riding Paul's worm. 19:51 another thing the movie doesn't make clear is that you can't use the atomic weapons against another house. Doing so will bring the wrath of all the other houses down upon you. Paul found a loophole. He blew up a piece of a mountain range (the shield wall) that kept the worms out and didn't use them directly against people. 23:04 That's not Chani
Back with the long awaited DUNE PART 2. This movie was brilliant and all I had hoped for. How about you guys? What other movies are you hyped for this year?
When I read a book I often see the action taking place instead of the words I'm reading. This is especially true for Stephen King stories. This movie and part 1 exceeded what I saw in my imagination. Yes they make changes but they all were brilliant and the stuff they had to leave out wasn't terribly important to the outcome (I could have watched two 6-hour movies but most people won't). The movie is simply brilliant, It's what I've been waiting for since the late '70s when I first read the book. Then a couple years later I saw Star Wars and noticed the similarities and was just dying to see something I didn't think could be filmed. And yet here they have.
@herbertkeithmiller I’m with you. I’d love movies with this type of effort every year. Not always scifi but anything. You can see and feel the love, effort , blood , sweat and tears in this work
The undrugged guy in the colosseum was a member of house atreides and can be seen in the background of the first and bts was the guy who taught the actors how to sword/dagger fight so it was neat seeing him fight. Sidenote the movie is returning to imax on april 19 so its not too late to see it the way it was meant to be seen 🥳
@@MacCheekz1990 here in California/ LA they gave the imax screens to Civil War but its getting at least some back on April 19 like Amc universal citywalk
The power of the voice was made up for the original movie and the same with the rain at the end. The best part from the original movie and what they nailed was the little sister. It bugs me she’s not in this. But otherwise this is pretty darn good.
Yes , it was only Anya Taylor Joy in that dream sequence which was a shame. That kid used to scare me but I really loved her. If you have not seen it, there is a Fan Made Directors Cut on here of 84 which is just over 3 hours and its so much better than the released one. Check it out
While you were talking about the visuals of Oppenheimer and realizing the bar in your review… I couldn’t help but get ptsd from Oppenheimer completely robbing poor things for cinematography. THAT film raised the bar when it comes to visuals, EASILY! Great reaction as always loved it!!
GAVIN RAMON : Hello please Why did Feyd meet Dame Margot and tell her I'd dreamt about her last night What did he mean when he said I dreamt about you last night and that he knew about the power of the Bene Gesserit? How did he know that she was a Bene Gesserit and why did she make him take the Gom Jabbar test and not Mohiam la mère revêtante or Paul passe dans dune 1 why did they choose Lady Margot to take the Gom Jabbar test for me Feyd and how did she know which corridor he was in
Yeah so that thing that you reference with the Voice +gun power ("his name is a killing word"), just remembered they called it a weirding module from the Lynch film was movie-specific, it wasn't from the book. So, Denis did not entertain that embellishment, although it was very cool in the 84 version.
That Fedaykin who almost stabbed Rabban, shouting "For Maud'Dib!" right before getting shot, struck me as a good callback to Paul's name being a killing word.
Why does he marry Irulan you ask? It's a political marriage to secure his claim as Emperor. Just like his father (Leto) didn't marry Jessica, in order to keep the option of a political marriage open. Chani remains his love, the mother of his kids and "concubine". Like Jessica says in the book: we who are called concubines, history will remember as wives. (paraphrasing)
Yea the “sonic” weapons from Lynch’s film weren’t a thing in the books at all. Lynch didn’t want his movie to be a “kung fu” movie in his words, even though the weirding way is a martial art. Many people want to compare Paul to Luke in Star Wars. Paul isn’t Luke…He’s Anakin, so much so Lucas based the storyline of Darth Vader on Paul.
I’m pathetic ha. I am obsessed with David Lynch so the original is one of my faves. I know it’s very cheesy but I still love it and that theme song in the original is still epic.
Can someone explain too me is it like the freemen either get exterminated or the great houses die, like if Paul didn't go beast mode and attack they would have been hunted down in the south? So it's the moral of he wants the arrakis people to live even if it means going to war with everyone, there's no wrong or right answer 🤔
It's quite tragic, if bro leads with his heart to protect the Arrakis people he becomes a tyrant to achieve it, I see a lot of people portray him as bad which he is kinda, but hits different when understanding mostly no one in that position would give up and watch their love ones die and home crumble around them for the greater good, jeez 🔥
no you're right, Paul saw the only timeline where they survive was the one where they had to act like harkonnens "to defeat a monster you have to become a monster" type of way. It's similar to his mother in the start before she becomes the reverend mother, either death or torment. Paul chooses torment, too.
You really need to stop comparing 1984 dune to this dune. This new dune is not a remake of the 1984 dune. It is an adaptation of the 1965 novel. In fact, most novel fans of Dune. Do not actually like the 1984 movie. Because it's actually not a great adaptation of the novel.
@GavinRamonShow you don't need to have spoken to every fan to know what the general consensus of the fan base is. Goes for eny Fandom. There's this thing called the internet. Everyone in the world can get together. And talk to each other. I know crazy idea.
I tried watching worm riding scene on a TV 😂 it's really underwhelming compared to the theater just because of the sheer size. Not to mention the sound effects 😂
The weirding module from David Lynch’s film was a stupid unnecessary made up thing. The Freman were a fearsome fighting force without that nonsense he added.
This movie in particular got me interested in the books. Have you read the books? I enjoyed the first one but not to the extent of this one right here! I don't know what it was about it. Possibly the cinematography and the similarities it has to star wars and LOTR. I've only seen the stars wars where it has the one with Oscar Issac who also played Paul's father in the first Dune Hollywood doesn't make movies this exciting very often, it's rare and when they do they surprise you. I can't wait to see what happens next in Dune Messiah
I have a problem with you calling that abomination of a movie from Lynch as the "original". That movie was not Dune. Was a version of Dune that was completely opposite of Herberts themes. Was the 1st "Marvel" movie. All hero's and superpowers. !/2 the plot was not part of the "original" story. I found it entertaining. But just was not the real story from the Book. Sound weapons. And making it rain by thought. That was crap. These last 2 movies carried with them the themes of Dune. Power being a source of corruption. Leaders who should not be worshiped. That is what Dune is about. And the final lesson........ "Be careful what you wish for... You might just get it"..........
@@GavinRamonShow Yeah and they where called weirding modules, not atomic weapons. Its you who don't understand English language even tho you speak it natively
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I thought old dune was fun but after watching it, I felt like this is infinately better because it let the story unfold organically and didn't make paul as hero. I also liked that alia is a baby, its so creepy that jessica is discussing creepy plans with fetus lol
Problem was that the studio took away Final Cut from David Lynch who directed the 1984 version, that’s why from around the hour mark, it becomes erratic and a mess.
He said it would be around 3-4 hours and the cut off half the movie.
@@GavinRamonShow If you want to see the best adaptation from a story perspective, watch the mini series that was produced for television. "Frank Herbert's Dune". It is by far the most faithful adaptation although has very poor production standards.
when u said "shut up" at the same time when Paul said "SILENCE" to Mohiam, that was hilarious 🤣🤣
I didn’t realise I am such an idiot hahah
The best part honestly 😂😂
@@GavinRamonShow Why did Feyd meet Dame Margot and tell her I'd dreamt about her last night What did he mean when he said I dreamt about you last night and that he knew about the power of the Bene Gesserit? How did he know that she was a Bene Gesserit and why did she make him take the Gom Jabbar test and not Mohiam la mère revêtante or Paul passe dans dune 1 why did they choose Lady Margot to take the Gom Jabbar test for me Feyd and how did she know which corridor he was in
@@BENNY-CROSS.VANDALS-CHICAGONohiam couldn’t test him herself because his previous issues with his own mother and she saw herself as a'motherly figure'…
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The choice of Chani’s character was certainly a bit of a change from the novel, giving her her own distinct motivations and characterization wherein her love for Paul and her people is why she can’t accept him as the Mahdi. This change was ultimately done by Villeneuve so he could tell the story of Dune without making the mistake Frank Herbert admitted he did, being too subtle about Paul.
Many people after Dune was published still saw Paul Atreides as a hero, even though Herbert vehemently wished to portray the opposite, a reality which Herbert owned up to in his motivations for later novels. I think one can argue Herbert’s more one dimensional characterization of Chani kinda contributes to this-since it gives Paul no personal repercussions in the book. Him becoming cult leader doesn’t truly meaning anything for him in a way that harmful to the self, it doesn’t alienate those he loves in the book, which might have hurt Herbert’s intention.
In the movie however, Paul becoming Kwizats Haderach has to truly mean the death of Paul Atreides in a lot of ways, and this costs him dearly with regards to those he truly loves.
Also, it helps further drive in a point of how Chani represents the fremen. Chani at the end rides a sandworm while the others go off into spaceships, something the fremen NEVER DID. This is a key point of characterization for the whole of the fremen. The more they follow the Mahdi in a fanatical way, the more actually out of touch with their culture they become. Their culture is taken over by Paul and Jessica’s influence, their cult of personality. Hence, at the end of the day, it’s Chani who knows Paul Atreides as simply the boy she loves and not as any messiah, who is still the one acting like a fremen, riding the worms, etc.
Very well said and brilliant message
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Why did Feyd meet Dame Margot and tell her I'd dreamt about her last night? What did he mean when he said I dreamt about you last night and that he knew about the power of the Bene Gesserit How did he know that she was a Bene Gesserit and why did she make him take the Gom Jabbar test and not Mohiam la mère revêtante or Paul passe dans dune 1 why did they choose Lady Margot to take the Gom Jabbar test for me Feyd and how did she know which corridor he was in
@@BENNY-CROSS.VANDALS-CHICAGO lady fenring met feyd because mohaim said a motherly figure wouldn’t be effective. Fenring’s ability to sexually attract him is useful as they wanted to secure his bloodline.
@@vhufeosqapBene Gesserit How did he know that she was a Bene Gesserit and why did she make him take the Gom Jabbar test and not Mohiam la mère revêtante or Paul passe dans dune 1 why did they choose Lady Margot to take the Gom Jabbar test for me Feyd and how did she know which corridor he was in
@@vhufeosqap Why didn't Mohiam make him take the gom jabbar test like she did for Paul and how did Margot know where Feyd was in the hallway where the fireworks are heard? How do Mohiam and Jessica know that Feyd murdered his mother and why did he kill his mother
In my opinion, Part 1 and Part 2 make the best sci-fi film ever. Full stop.
As A full run one time viewing? I think you’re in with a good shout. Might have to watch it all as one soon
Highly recommend it when you are in the right mood. It's so rewarding to watch both parts back to back. I consider it one movie in two parts. @@GavinRamonShow
@@phantom213 I am always in the mood haha. I love these. I’ll wait for the 4k release of part two then get it
It’s my favourite film(s) of all time
@@GavinRamonShow Why didn't Mohiam make him take the gom jabbar test like she did for Paul and how did Margot know where me Feyd was in the hallway where the fireworks are heard How do Mohiam and Jessica know that me Feyd murdered his mother and why did he kill his mother
24:45 is where, watching this in the cinema for the first time, this went from "great film" to "greatest film". And I thought that from the sandworm riding scene, and it just kept getting better. Incredible.
Why can’t we get cinema like this all year, every year.
When you say that this was less brutal than the original -- the original was the book. David Lynch actually seemed like he didn't like the books because he changed the whole theme, and turned it into kind of a hero's journey. Frank Herbert's novel was meant as a cautionary tale against creating and following Messiahs. Paul IS NOT really a hero. The Bene Gesserit were trying to create an individual that would create the future that they wanted, and planted the prophesies in order to control the Fremen. However, when Jessica broke with the plan, they created the circumstances for their own destruction, and that of the empire. Paul uses the Fremen for his own personal revenge, even though he knows that the result will be a bloody Jihad that will devastate many worlds. He's only a hero in the same respect that Genghis Khan could be considered a hero.
okay i need some clarity. paul created an alliance with the fremen for revenge and also because his father said it was necessary. everything he does before taking the water of life is strategical and not in an evil sense. Once he does take it, he doesn’t become a tyrant, he can literally see everything all at once. isn’t he choosing the greater good amongst every single possibility? it’s not merciless and power driven killing like a Genghis Khan figure, it’s a man that knows everything doing what must be done right?? *if the answer to this is in the books or answered in dune messiah just say that, don’t explain lol
@@mdemi7692 Paul never wanted to become a tyrant. What happened was the movement grew beyond his control and takes a life of its own. Paul starts something and then loses control of it the Fremen believe in the cause so much that they won’t listen to Paul anymore. A lot will be explained in Messsiah that shows this. Messiah sort of wraps up Paul’s story for the most part but Paul’s story doesn’t completely finish until the book after that Children of Dune. After that it’s Paul’s son Leto II that becomes the emperor and stuff gets wildly weird and bad….But with Leto II the God Emperor it’s all means to an end and for a good purpose even though it’s as horrible as it gets.
@@senantiasa True, from our western viewpoint Alexander the Great was a Hero, but to the Persians he was a blood thirsty conqueror. It’s all about where you stand.
@@senantiasa have you read the books? Because if not your point is moot. Yes, Paul is the perceived hero in the first book and he liberates Arrakis, so good points for that… No one would view the Harkonnens as the good guys even with a western point of view (chip on your shoulder much?)After they liberate Arrakis they go on to destroy virtually every house in the imperium and kill 61 billion people in the process….If you still view him as the hero after that I’d question your moral standing. Frank Herbert has said many times the idea he was trying to portray is the danger of a charismatic leader and in the story Paul knowingly uses the Fremen beliefs for his benefit of getting revenge on the baron and emperor. Granted the book readers have knowledge of what happens, but literally everyone I’ve watched watch Dune has come to the same conclusion of “oh wait, isn’t Paul supposed to be the good guy?” Freeing your land= Good…Killing tens of billions for your leader after you have freed your home world= Bad.
@@ryanhampson673 No, I haven't read the books. What is the motivation for the Fremen to kill billions of people? Because at least in the movies, the Emperor destroyed House of Atreides because Duke Leto ruled with his heart (meaning that the other houses don't rule with their heart, because then the Emperor would have destroyed those houses too). But I've also heard that in the book, the Emperor wiped out the Atreides because its army is becoming the strongest in the Imperium.
Why did the Great Houses reject Paul as Emperor? Is it because they still want the old, evil Emperor to rule? Or is it because they want to rule Arrakis themselves? Or is it because they don't believe that the Fremen have the right to rule over their own land? It seems like the Great Houses "chose the wrong side". I'm assuming that it was these houses that ruled over Arrakis before the Harkonnens (because the Harkonnens ruled for 80 years, yet the Fremen have been ruled/oppressed/enslaved for centuries).
So those are my two questions about the books.
The Water of Life was basically super concentrated spice. Up until Paul only the Bene Gesserit could survive drinking it because they were trained to neutralize the poison aspect of it. It unlocks ancestral memories along the female bloodlines. For Paul, since he was a male, he was able to access both his female and male genetic memories. It also gave him the ability to see all possible outcomes of things in the future. So basically he had perfect prescience of the future and of the past through his genetic memories. That’s what the Bene Gesserit were after.
"May THY knife... uh... chip and shatter...?"
Feyd trolled Lisan al Gaib a little 😂
That line will go down in history how he said that.
Paul knew he couldn't defeat Fyed normally so he let himself get stabbed in a stop where he could pull out the knife and surprise Fyed. It was a very strategic act.
You need to see it in theatres in IMAX to get the full experience
I avoided it cos I wanted to cover the movie on here. Trust me I will be seeing replays when they show in London again. They will probably do both parts at some point. Thanks for watching
This was such a wholesome reaction! This was a lot of fun!
Chani and Paul love each other too much, so even though she’s heartbroken now they are sure to find their way back to each other in Dune 3.
Cutting child Alia was a big decision but I think they handled it really well with having her communicating with Jessica throughout the film and then the visions. She still feels like she’s there.
No I agree, I think I was just pining for Anya Taylor Joy. She is just incredible. Bit in love but she is just an unreal actress along with Mia Goth.
@@GavinRamonShow Definitely! She’s gonna be incredible in Dune Messiah!
@@desertspring9174 I know, now for the long wait. I don’t mind waiting a few years. It’s well worth the wait.
Check out EMMA with her if you have not seen it. She is just great
@@GavinRamonShow I just watched Emma the other night! So so good! I’m thinking of watching Last Night in Soho next as well
@@desertspring9174 another very good movie and she is in Furiosa which is out soon I think. Yeah, I just think she is a very strong actress. Her scene on the boat in The Northman was the best part to me
Feyd-Rautha may have found the sietch to destroy it because he is also prescient - there’s a few hints he might be, such as dreaming of Margot and Paul’s inability to foresee the attack on the sietch. It’s difficult for the prescient to see anything another prescient could counteract. The director also indicated Feyd is meant to be more of a mirror to Paul and more of a legitimate threat - the idea that Feyd could have been Paul if he’d had the same resources.
I think it’s purposely left unclear if that’s why Feyd holds his own against Paul - though Paul at that point is so omniscient that he maybe chose to let the fight play out the way it did. In the book, Lord Fenring blocks Paul’s sight at the fight, but in this case it may have been Feyd.
Ahhhh that’s interesting, thanks for sharing. Yes I have read the book and have Messiah to read and the 3rd which I can’t remember the name of. It’s great that we are getting a movie for fans to talk about though and share thoughts about.
Brilliant comment I hadn't considered what you said but that makes perfect sense. The Harkonnens are part of the cross breeding experiment to produce the one.
@@GavinRamonShow The third novel is entitled, "Children of Dune", and is my second favorite of the series.
@@greysongreyhater7667Why didn't Mohiam make him take the gom jabbar test like she did for Paul and how did Margot know where Feyd was in the hallway where the fireworks are heard How do Mohiam and Jessica know that Feyd murdered his mother and why did he kill his mother
13:43 That second voice was one of the previous Reverend Mothers whose consciousness live inside Jessica now, since she took the Water Of Life.
2:03 the reason they're using guns now is they can't use shields in the desert because it will drive the worms into a killing frenzy. And they're also using lasers again because they're not using shields. If a laser hits a shield it causes a tremendous explosion in both devices. This is something the movie doesn't make clear.
13:22 Chani is riding Paul's worm.
19:51 another thing the movie doesn't make clear is that you can't use the atomic weapons against another house. Doing so will bring the wrath of all the other houses down upon you. Paul found a loophole. He blew up a piece of a mountain range (the shield wall) that kept the worms out and didn't use them directly against people.
23:04 That's not Chani
bro ty for this, the series can be confusing
Back with the long awaited DUNE PART 2. This movie was brilliant and all I had hoped for. How about you guys?
What other movies are you hyped for this year?
When I read a book I often see the action taking place instead of the words I'm reading. This is especially true for Stephen King stories.
This movie and part 1 exceeded what I saw in my imagination. Yes they make changes but they all were brilliant and the stuff they had to leave out wasn't terribly important to the outcome (I could have watched two 6-hour movies but most people won't). The movie is simply brilliant, It's what I've been waiting for since the late '70s when I first read the book.
Then a couple years later I saw Star Wars and noticed the similarities and was just dying to see something I didn't think could be filmed.
And yet here they have.
@herbertkeithmiller I’m with you. I’d love movies with this type of effort every year. Not always scifi but anything. You can see and feel the love, effort , blood , sweat and tears in this work
For a split second your thumbnail made me think that Gaurdiola was reacting to Dune part 2 💀
That’s hilarious haha
The undrugged guy in the colosseum was a member of house atreides and can be seen in the background of the first and bts was the guy who taught the actors how to sword/dagger fight so it was neat seeing him fight. Sidenote the movie is returning to imax on april 19 so its not too late to see it the way it was meant to be seen 🥳
Looks like that’s what I will be doing ha
Returning? It only came out end of february, it's still in IMAX cinemas here lol
@@MacCheekz1990 here in California/ LA they gave the imax screens to Civil War but its getting at least some back on April 19 like Amc universal citywalk
@@santiagosanchez7559 Oh I see, like the one IMAX cinema I go, has two screens so they give one to Dune and the other to Civil War.
Best Picture of 2024
I’m with you. I don’t think anything will top this
The black and white parts were actually filmed in infrared. This is why the skin looks translucent.
This movie is too good. The only reason why this comment isn't longer, is because if it were, it'd become a book. Great reaction
Thats the thing with Dune, we can get lost in that world. Really cant wait for them to get working on the next one
The power of the voice was made up for the original movie and the same with the rain at the end.
The best part from the original movie and what they nailed was the little sister. It bugs me she’s not in this.
But otherwise this is pretty darn good.
Yes , it was only Anya Taylor Joy in that dream sequence which was a shame. That kid used to scare me but I really loved her.
If you have not seen it, there is a Fan Made Directors Cut on here of 84 which is just over 3 hours and its so much better than the released one. Check it out
I honestly hated the fact old dune made it seem like paul is a god
@@user-jz8ow3xv8t Paul would have been a god if he followed the golden path
Its a small thing but Shai Hulud is used in references to all sandworms, not just a specific one 😅
While you were talking about the visuals of Oppenheimer and realizing the bar in your review… I couldn’t help but get ptsd from Oppenheimer completely robbing poor things for cinematography. THAT film raised the bar when it comes to visuals, EASILY! Great reaction as always loved it!!
Thanks so much for the comment!
Agreed 100%
Went to theaters for it, one of the best theater experiences ive had in years (poor things)
I didn't know that Vincenzo's Plate started making video reactions 🫨
HAHAHA thank you hahaha. Thats the best one I have heard. I am physically laughing loud haha. GOOD ONE
You can always tell people who have never read the book and only watched the David Lynch movie.
There you would be incorrect ! But thanks for watching
Where are the weirding modules? 😂
GAVIN RAMON :
Hello please Why did Feyd meet Dame Margot and tell her I'd dreamt about her last night What did he mean when he said I dreamt about you last night and that he knew about the power of the Bene Gesserit? How did he know that she was a Bene Gesserit and why did she make him take the Gom Jabbar test and not Mohiam la mère revêtante or Paul passe dans dune 1 why did they choose Lady Margot to take the Gom Jabbar test for me Feyd and how did she know which corridor he was in
Yeah so that thing that you reference with the Voice +gun power ("his name is a killing word"), just remembered they called it a weirding module from the Lynch film was movie-specific, it wasn't from the book. So, Denis did not entertain that embellishment, although it was very cool in the 84 version.
That Fedaykin who almost stabbed Rabban, shouting "For Maud'Dib!" right before getting shot, struck me as a good callback to Paul's name being a killing word.
I'm ready... Lisan al-Gaib!!!
We need “desert power”.
15:56 I know what you’re thinking. That’s not the doctor from the first movie, the Baron definitely killed him after he betrayed Leto.
Why does he marry Irulan you ask? It's a political marriage to secure his claim as Emperor. Just like his father (Leto) didn't marry Jessica, in order to keep the option of a political marriage open. Chani remains his love, the mother of his kids and "concubine". Like Jessica says in the book: we who are called concubines, history will remember as wives. (paraphrasing)
Yea the “sonic” weapons from Lynch’s film weren’t a thing in the books at all. Lynch didn’t want his movie to be a “kung fu” movie in his words, even though the weirding way is a martial art. Many people want to compare Paul to Luke in Star Wars. Paul isn’t Luke…He’s Anakin, so much so Lucas based the storyline of Darth Vader on Paul.
PLEASE, ALL WE NEED IS ANOTHER MOVIE RELIGIOUS FANATICS!
You having seen the original made this reaction even better
I’m pathetic ha. I am obsessed with David Lynch so the original is one of my faves. I know it’s very cheesy but I still love it and that theme song in the original is still epic.
22:32 hardest line in this movie
Watch for the atraides Hawk on the gladiator arm !!!! Nice detail from the book!!!!
"Lead them to Paradise"
wishing you good health brother
Thanks mate, I am getting better.
You skip Paul's speech in the ring... it's the main moment
I had to edit parts because it was being blocked
@@GavinRamonShow got it👌
Can someone explain too me is it like the freemen either get exterminated or the great houses die, like if Paul didn't go beast mode and attack they would have been hunted down in the south? So it's the moral of he wants the arrakis people to live even if it means going to war with everyone, there's no wrong or right answer 🤔
That’s the point. Like anything, no matter what you do. Someone will always rise and want power.
It's quite tragic, if bro leads with his heart to protect the Arrakis people he becomes a tyrant to achieve it, I see a lot of people portray him as bad which he is kinda, but hits different when understanding mostly no one in that position would give up and watch their love ones die and home crumble around them for the greater good, jeez 🔥
no you're right, Paul saw the only timeline where they survive was the one where they had to act like harkonnens "to defeat a monster you have to become a monster" type of way. It's similar to his mother in the start before she becomes the reverend mother, either death or torment. Paul chooses torment, too.
You really need to stop comparing 1984 dune to this dune.
This new dune is not a remake of the 1984 dune.
It is an adaptation of the 1965 novel.
In fact, most novel fans of Dune. Do not actually like the 1984 movie. Because it's actually not a great adaptation of the novel.
Most fans? Have you spoken to every single one then? You have been busy. 😯
@GavinRamonShow you don't need to have spoken to every fan to know what the general consensus of the fan base is. Goes for eny Fandom.
There's this thing called the internet.
Everyone in the world can get together. And talk to each other.
I know crazy idea.
I tried watching worm riding scene on a TV 😂 it's really underwhelming compared to the theater just because of the sheer size. Not to mention the sound effects 😂
In theater I feel really smol compared to the worm 😂 but of course
I have 60 inch 4K but it’s still not the same. I will watch it on the big screen soon.
Oh, that's nice. It's almost gone from my local XXI. Its kind of sad for the people who will not be able to experience it in theaters.
Shai-Hulud is any Sandworm, not just one of them
bro i keep seeing these videos for movie reactions of Dune part 2 but where tf do u watch it???
You can buy it on PRIME now.
The weirding module from David Lynch’s film was a stupid unnecessary made up thing. The Freman were a fearsome fighting force without that nonsense he added.
Go see it in imax while you still have the chance
8:10 Can you blame him?
Hello is it you react to my favorite movie it call the signs
Is that Mel Gibson? I have already seen it
This movie in particular got me interested in the books. Have you read the books? I enjoyed the first one but not to the extent of this one right here! I don't know what it was about it. Possibly the cinematography and the similarities it has to star wars and LOTR. I've only seen the stars wars where it has the one with Oscar Issac who also played Paul's father in the first Dune
Hollywood doesn't make movies this exciting very often, it's rare and when they do they surprise you. I can't wait to see what happens next in Dune Messiah
Very dark compared to first.
Big time! I agree with you
I have a problem with you calling that abomination of a movie from Lynch as the "original". That movie was not Dune. Was a version of Dune that was completely opposite of Herberts themes. Was the 1st "Marvel" movie. All hero's and superpowers. !/2 the plot was not part of the "original" story. I found it entertaining. But just was not the real story from the Book. Sound weapons. And making it rain by thought. That was crap. These last 2 movies carried with them the themes of Dune. Power being a source of corruption. Leaders who should not be worshiped. That is what Dune is about. And the final lesson........ "Be careful what you wish for... You might just get it"..........
"where you father hid the family atomics" the what? Jesus you are a grown man, you know what atomic energy/weapons are.
You don’t understand Dune then my friend. I was shocked because in the previous version they used weapons that are powered by The Voice.
@@GavinRamonShow Yeah and they where called weirding modules, not atomic weapons. Its you who don't understand English language even tho you speak it natively
@@DuBstep115 I never said anything was called atomic weapons, you did. Have a cake and glass of milk buttercup
@@GavinRamonShow No, you said "what" like a autistic person when the movie literally told you what his father hid.
@@DuBstep115 you don't have to be such an asshole
One of the worst reaction videos of dune part 2. You dont know anything and somehow cannot follow the storyline 😂
Thanks, let me know when you uploaded yours so I can come along and tell you what you did wrong
🔥🔥🔥 this is awesome!