Enjoyed the video. I had a 993 air cooler for some time . Great cars when they run. I got tired of spending $1500 every time it needed something. Costco is the hot setup for tires by the way. I’ve also owned MB SLs and others. Anyway I sold it to a guy who needed it worse than I. Started driving an old Honda Accord never done shit to it. 136k miles. It’s black and two doors. I’ve got 4 cars now and not a single one of them is German. As you get older you get wiser. Cheers.
If you actually think an Accord is an acceptable replacement for a 911, you should've never owned one. They're a hardcore enthusiast car, even though they aren't advertised that way.
I'm with you on the getting older and wiser thing. I'm not as crazy with my money as I used to be. even if it is a Porsche I'm not willing to be broke over it .thinking I'm thinking about getting a nice used Nissan 350Z taking it to the track and having a lot less maintenance and repair costs and having the same fun
Thank you for in feeding first hand user experiences. This is helpful for those of us who are researching the best 911 to buy. My air cooled 911 never had a problem with a water pump, so it's a little depressing to hear that Porsche, by 2008, still couldn't figure out how to make a water pump last past 50k miles. Ditto on the starter. If my Toyota can still start on the original starter at 195k miles, Porsche should talk to those folks about supplying starters. The cars are just too costly to be failing at such low mileage AND such a young age. When my 30 year old 911 needed expensive fuel lines, I can understand that. But these types of issues on a low mileage modern Porsche would drive me crazy. And broke. Thank you for your insights.
Sorry about being so late getting back to everyone, I've been crazy with school and work! It is crazy how unreliable some of the parts can be on these cars. My 2002 f250 power stroke has never had a serious problem after 250k miles! But on the other hand we do drive the sports cars much harder and thats the price we pay. I need to make some more videos especially since it seems like more people are interested in this kind of stuff. I know when I was looking into buying my 911 these were the sorts of videos I wanted to see and there were not too many of them. Thanks for sharing your experience!
@hans, the reliability issue with respect to the starter could possibly be related to a weak battery trying to power a starter responsible for cold turning an engine with unusually high compression.
this is not their business model. I used to own a 996 at tha ttime when the 997 came out. They promised that the 997 would have had all t he problems that the 996 first water cooled engine had, but unfortunately thaty made the same design mistake again, with the seal with the engine that does not last like the 993 and earlier models. I came to the conclusion that is where the money is earned. the fear of failure to drive people to invest in an extended warranty of 3k EUR here in Germany is a model that works. Fear is the best selling point. Cars without warranty extention are traded much lower, the ones with are automatically higher valued. the message is clear if you do not have a warranty iyou are on your own if things may screw up. And well guess what with that construction it may. I agree that sports cars a driven differently I get that, but I have hardly seen an engine failure in a AMG Mercedes. I also do not see many engine failures in a GTR or Ferrari or Lamborghini. If a manufacturer presents himself to sell sports cars and the engine potentially breaks down during rough usage that is unacceptable. I would agree with that argumentation if it was a Miata that I took around the track, as it was not built for that and it is not marketed for that. But a Porsche with such inheritance of racing I would expect more. But apparently the ones who own onw are willing to pay for that and obviously it works and from economic point of view of the Company this is the best strategy to secure sustainably income to their business.
@@mikey201292 The pride of many Porsche owners prevent them from complaining about how unreliable these cars are. They quietly pay their $1000's for what should be low-cost items and go on their way.
Thanks, Michael- you went into detail on issues that are on the mind of most potential Porsche buyers, like me. You could also point out how simple the oil changes are. No need to pay big bucks for them.
Slow cranking is generally caused by a bad cable from the battery to the starter and not a starter problem. These came with faulty cables and I had the same problem.
I have a 2006 C4S in 2013 and you tagged just about every problem I’ve had. I love this car for a daily driver and I’ve also put about 20 track days on it. With winter tires it is like a tank in the snow. So much fun!
You should have tested your battery first before going to the dealership! You most likely just needed the battery, don't trust the dealership. Buy some tools and learn how to service your own car, you can learn a lot from TH-cam and the internet! $1500 for what they call a major service is a ripoff. Just my opinion. Thake care and enjoy your beautiful car.
These "major" services are a big ripoff. ALL automobile dealers are scammers with their service programs. They learn how to bilk the owners of their money.
That my friend would make your channel grow diy (do it yaself) let us watch you muck it up but the journey to be a master mechanic will pay off in the long run
Chin up fellas, I’m on my 4 th Porsche 911. The first three were 2001 966,s bought used at 68,000, 60,000 and 55,000 miles. Drove them every day in winter and summer in Idaho, Utah and Montana, sold them around 105,000 and 112,000 miles. Only maintenance was oil, tires, filters, spark plugs, thermostat and accessory drive belt. Pretty much normal maintenance. The one I’m on now is 2006 967. I love this excellent sports car!
There is a hole in front of the gas fill section. It is meant for the evap system to purge air from tank while you fill. Sometimes, that makes a whistling noise too. If you try to cover it up the whole with a small piece of rag and go for a drive, see if that disappear. Don't forget to take out the rag when fill gas to avoid problem.
A car with only 53K miles should not have bad seals that leak and it was probably just the battery that needed to be replaced not the starter. But you did get the warranty so good for you.
Great video. I have an opportunity to buy a 2008 911 base and your video helped a lot. Since this video is 3 years old, do you still have the car? And if so, any more issues?
Nice ride ! Anyone that can turn a key can turn a wrench . I would spend $2k on tools and a Bentley manual before an extended warranty but that's me . My 996 costs will be much different . It seemed to pay off on your trans seals . Do change your brake fluid every two years and change water pump at the specified interval .
VanaConn and I change the brake fluid at least once a year because I started doing some track events so that’s really important to make sure all that stuff is legit.
I understand .I sometimes sub out jobs on my cars but what Porsche charges is a bit over the top . You would be surprised how easy some of these jobs are . I won't say owning one is "cheap" but I wouldn't have it any other way . I could have bought a 370Z but it ain't the same .
When I had a 930 I went to the dealer a couple of times but found an independent Porsche Certified Expert and I saved THOUSANDS of dollars over the life of that car and the 911SC before it.
Thanks for your video. I owned a 2001 996 that I bought at 55K. I sold it with 110K. Here is the work I had to do: clutch at 87K. Water pump at 93K. Air/oil separator at 99K. Of course the 60 and 90K services. I did mostly HWY miles and, overall, I thought it was mostly reliable. The rear tires last about 20K max. The brakes were still original at 110K and were 4 MM. I am interested in buying a 997 similar to yours.
Thank you for adding first hand experience to the knowledge base. It can only help the community to have these types of data points logged for everyone to see. There are many stories about positive experiences with the 996's, counter balanced with the owners who are saddled with the horror of sourcing re manufactured engines nearly equaling the value of the car. What was your thought process/experience concerning the IMS bearing? Again, thank you for your input. Real life data beats conjecture.
Thats not bad at all as for as the work you put into it after so many miles. From what I have heard the 996 are either awesome or horrible but I am glad you had a good experience! I have never driven a 996 but I love my 997. Honestly just an awesome car all around. Its great for everyday use as well as the track. I would assume its very similar to your 996 but a little bit updated. I will be posting some more videos soon!
@@john9968 I just had the timing belt changed along with the standard replacement of the water pump on my Audi for E420 Euros, or about $ 480 . That included the coolant too. I also own a Cayman S with 71k miles, and its proved very reliable.
On mine I get the whistle if the sunroof is flipped up from behind. Slow cranking on mine was traced to bad wiring from the battery to the engine and that was covered by the Porsche dealer at a cost of around 1,000. They had told me the battery just needs charging.
Thank you for watching! I am going to post some more videos with my 997, it seems like people are pretty interested in hearing reviews from someone who drives the car everyday!
I have had Hyundai's and Toyotas. I have never had any problems at 50 thousand miles. In fact I have never had any problems other than having the breaks replaced and a new battery after 100 thousand miles. Porsche should have fewer model changes and make a quality car. How many years have they been doing this?
I have spent almost nothing on my C4s but it gets driven on weekend only in the summer. I prefer my 2 Audi cars. S4 is my favourite and I have never I had a single part fail on it since I bought it used with low miles 4 years ago. It is also stored in winter.
I guess you don't do your own service and get your own parts for cheap, save service costs. Invest in tools too and get a Bentley manual for Service & Repair + great info to have on VW stuff.
haha I actually have not had a single problem with it since I posted this video. Granted, it hasn't been all that long but it seems to be in good shape
How is a starter deferred maintenance? How is a leaking transmission deferred maintenance? How is a leaking water pump deferred maintenance? The car makes an annoying whistling noise while driving. How is that deferred maintenance? All that crap broke. Period. End of story.
Having mechanical skills is definitely a necessity but the fact that parts for these German cars are so expensive still makes them a real pain. Need to have a friend living in Germany to circumvent the high parts prices, if such would work.
:D !!! THANKS! I jus got a lexus, and i was looking into Porsche. Your video reminded me of when i bought my AUDI...Oil leak, blown turbo. Yea no, I'll pass on the porshe now!
Not surprised at the problems you're having. That thing is beat up. I'd have never bought that thing just looking at the undercarriage and the overall condition. And I'd bet my 911 there were no service records available...... PASS!
Your warranty negated the bulk of your service costs. Possibly a non-warranty situation with a private, non-factory, auto shop would have been a truer measure of what it cost to operate that 911.
My 02 996 water pump failed at 80k on the dot. Sad to hear the 997 had these issues under 60k. Most people get scared of the 996 due to the IMS bearing issues. Use this issue to your advantage, educate yourself and talk the price down. Find a good mechanic that only works on Porsche (I had a local Porsche race shop handle my repairs) and just replace this bearing when the clutch is serviced. From what I understand the first gen 997's had the same IMS bearing concern which was even worse due to Porsche welding the bearing to the shaft. Now if you have this issue in the 1st gen 997 you have to pull and replace the entire shaft... more work more money. First gen 996 had less issues with the IMS bearing due to the bearing used was much thicker than the gen 2 996. The 996 motor was completely redone in 2002 going from a 3.4 to the 3.6. The motor was better in everyway.....except the IMS bearing used was thinner. Do you research, love your car and enjoy the ride! I miss my 996
Michael Ronca sounds like your passenger window is probably slightly sliding down as it would if you were going to open the door. I think that’s were the noise is coming from or the sunroof if you have one. I now this is a response to a old question but just a thought 🤔.
@@mikey201292 Thank you, I am looking for a 2009 c4s with about the same miles as yours, no more than 55000. Hopefully I could get it for $50K or less.
Why do people say it is common for leaks in a trans or anywhere when they drive a sports or luxury car from Europe? You don't hear a Honda or Toyota owner saying this, or expecting this, and their engines are directly recipients of their motorsport history like Indy Car and F1. If you make a quality engine you don't have leaks under 100,000 miles. IMO It is about making money
dee youcee I have 2005 997.1 and all 911 have ims issue till 2009 excluding turbo and GT3 but they sorted out 2009 with different engine and I have 2005 and had 987 boxster before that and I did IMS on my boxster with 95k miles and drove it for year and sold it for more than I bought and bought 997.1
I have never heard of the ims issues on the 997.1 but N/A soundsSoGood may be right. The 997.1 is a great car overall. I drive it a decent amount and it puts a smile on my face every time I get into it.
@cintra2 Correction, the latter 2006 until 2008 models have the larger ceramic single row IMS bearing, but they still have failure problems. It's guesstimated about less than 1%, but yet, they still can fail.
@@pierre0860 6% of cars, depending where you look for data. Not that it's comforting if you're in the pack of 6%. If $2k of repairs/maintenance is off-putting to someone, then time for a cheaper hobby.
One word used in this video reveals the source of the problems: Track. If I tracked a 10 year old car, I'd expect problems. I'd guess this car is driven hard.
You bought a bad 911 from the beginning. I have the same from that year, no problems. And i drive it a lot, not in winter do, its my only car. hi from Scandinavia. yea som plastic problems sure.
Spend all your disposable income before you die and what makes you happy. I'm not leaving anything to my kids, cause I paid for their education. Sink or swim MFkers. I love my new 4S, but then I can afford it.
I never understood why Toyota was so highly praised. When I was a mechanic, I worked on them more than any other vehicle and there were way more Domestic trucks around. I will never buy a Toyota. I own a Porsche 4S with a powerkit and I love it. But then I can also afford it.
@@thegrmcrckr488 interesting. As someone who has owned 30 cars or so and have several friends that are long time mechanics they all swear by Toyota and never buy German. With that being said I purchased a Cayenne😁.....she loves it
I don't understand how can a 60.000km car can have so many problems. I expect much more form a brand like Porsche. I don't think it's reasonable compared with much more cheap cars.
Bet you there was nothing wrong with his starter, but just his battery. And they probably stiffed him for a Porsche battery, which is three times of the cost of an identical spec Yuasa, Die hard, Bosch etc....
That is mostly confined to M96 engine 996 model and Boxsters up to around 2006. At worst, it affected about 4% of cars, and often cars seeing little regular use.
Those saying for him to learn to do the repairs himself, really? He’s wearing a $14k Rolex, has a Ferrari in the garage and lives a top a mountain in a $1mm home. Smh
Jfit lol thank you. If I spent all my time working on cars I wouldn’t have time to make any money. Some people just don’t understand opportunity cost haha
For the prices Porsche charges for these cars, they should need NOTHING for the first 10 years other than 'normal wear & tear' items like tires, wiper blades, oil and air filters. Same with other 'luxury exotic' car manufacturers. All these marques SHOULD have virtually ZERO issues for the first decade (unless the car is beaten by the owner, of course) and SHOULD be as reliable as a Honda, Toyota, etc. for that same time period. It IS a quality control issue. It's despicable that Porsche, et. al. rest more on their image to sell cars rather than a very high level of QUALITY.
@nunya if feel the same way you do but yet everyone defends them due to there " superior german engineering". Now honda and toyota have great engineering! I am sure the 911 drives fantastic but they are not built as reliable as they should be for what they cost!
Porsche 911 with 60K needed all that work? Either you bought a junker or the dealer took advantage of the insurance policy. There's no way the car just needed all that stuff with so milage lol
Harley Wright I am with you on this I guarantee the dealer looked up to the sky blew a big kiss and out came the don't worry we will put it all down to the warranty.
Came real close to buying a 996 a few years ago but I laid down on the couch, closed my eyes, and waited until the urge passed.
Spend all your disposable income before you die. That is my motto.
I drove 6 hours to test drive one and it didn’t seem right. 20k but I passed and went back home
Enjoyed the video. I had a 993 air cooler for some time . Great cars when they run. I got tired of spending $1500 every time it needed something. Costco is the hot setup for tires by the way. I’ve also owned MB SLs and others. Anyway I sold it to a guy who needed it worse than I. Started driving an old Honda Accord never done shit to it. 136k miles. It’s black and two doors. I’ve got 4 cars now and not a single one of them is German. As you get older you get wiser. Cheers.
If you actually think an Accord is an acceptable replacement for a 911, you should've never owned one. They're a hardcore enthusiast car, even though they aren't advertised that way.
saying ur wise but id say ur stupid as shit
I'm with you on the getting older and wiser thing. I'm not as crazy with my money as I used to be. even if it is a Porsche I'm not willing to be broke over it .thinking I'm thinking about getting a nice used Nissan 350Z taking it to the track and having a lot less maintenance and repair costs and having the same fun
Thank you for in feeding first hand user experiences. This is helpful for those of us who are researching the best 911 to buy. My air cooled 911 never had a problem with a water pump, so it's a little depressing to hear that Porsche, by 2008, still couldn't figure out how to make a water pump last past 50k miles. Ditto on the starter. If my Toyota can still start on the original starter at 195k miles, Porsche should talk to those folks about supplying starters. The cars are just too costly to be failing at such low mileage AND such a young age. When my 30 year old 911 needed expensive fuel lines, I can understand that. But these types of issues on a low mileage modern Porsche would drive me crazy. And broke. Thank you for your insights.
Sorry about being so late getting back to everyone, I've been crazy with school and work! It is crazy how unreliable some of the parts can be on these cars. My 2002 f250 power stroke has never had a serious problem after 250k miles! But on the other hand we do drive the sports cars much harder and thats the price we pay. I need to make some more videos especially since it seems like more people are interested in this kind of stuff. I know when I was looking into buying my 911 these were the sorts of videos I wanted to see and there were not too many of them. Thanks for sharing your experience!
@hans, the reliability issue with respect to the starter could possibly be related to a weak battery trying to power a starter responsible for cold turning an engine with unusually high compression.
this is not their business model. I used to own a 996 at tha ttime when the 997 came out. They promised that the 997 would have had all t he problems that the 996 first water cooled engine had, but unfortunately thaty made the same design mistake again, with the seal with the engine that does not last like the 993 and earlier models. I came to the conclusion that is where the money is earned. the fear of failure to drive people to invest in an extended warranty of 3k EUR here in Germany is a model that works. Fear is the best selling point. Cars without warranty extention are traded much lower, the ones with are automatically higher valued. the message is clear if you do not have a warranty iyou are on your own if things may screw up. And well guess what with that construction it may. I agree that sports cars a driven differently I get that, but I have hardly seen an engine failure in a AMG Mercedes. I also do not see many engine failures in a GTR or Ferrari or Lamborghini. If a manufacturer presents himself to sell sports cars and the engine potentially breaks down during rough usage that is unacceptable. I would agree with that argumentation if it was a Miata that I took around the track, as it was not built for that and it is not marketed for that. But a Porsche with such inheritance of racing I would expect more. But apparently the ones who own onw are willing to pay for that and obviously it works and from economic point of view of the Company this is the best strategy to secure sustainably income to their business.
@@mikey201292 The pride of many Porsche owners prevent them from complaining about how unreliable these cars are. They quietly pay their $1000's for what should be low-cost items and go on their way.
Thanks, Michael- you went into detail on issues that are on the mind of most potential Porsche buyers, like me. You could also point out how simple the oil changes are. No need to pay big bucks for them.
Well thanks you saved me 27 thousand pounds I was going to buy one after your video and seeing endless cost of problems I’m not now
Slow cranking is generally caused by a bad cable from the battery to the starter and not a starter problem. These came with faulty cables and I had the same problem.
Not all cable but just a connector to terminal (it’s just behind battery)
I have a 2006 C4S in 2013 and you tagged just about every problem I’ve had. I love this car for a daily driver and I’ve also put about 20 track days on it. With winter tires it is like a tank in the snow. So much fun!
You should have tested your battery first before going to the dealership! You most likely just needed the battery, don't trust the dealership. Buy some tools and learn how to service your own car, you can learn a lot from TH-cam and the internet! $1500 for what they call a major service is a ripoff. Just my opinion. Thake care and enjoy your beautiful car.
Rich X he doesn’t care, he has warranty. But you are right it was probably the battery. Only fit BOSCH to these.
These "major" services are a big ripoff. ALL automobile dealers are scammers with their service programs. They learn how to bilk the owners of their money.
Seems like money’s not a problem for him. I don’t know who he is, some other porsche video brought me here lol
That my friend would make your channel grow diy (do it yaself) let us watch you muck it up but the journey to be a master mechanic will pay off in the long run
Chin up fellas, I’m on my 4 th Porsche 911. The first three were 2001 966,s bought used at 68,000, 60,000 and 55,000 miles. Drove them every day in winter and summer in Idaho, Utah and Montana, sold them around 105,000 and 112,000 miles. Only maintenance was oil, tires, filters, spark plugs, thermostat and accessory drive belt. Pretty much normal maintenance. The one I’m on now is 2006 967. I love this excellent sports car!
LOL!!!! 5:49 "But that's really the only problems I've had with this car..."
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Great call on buying the extended warranty.
Any car that will leave me contiually stranded and broke is not worth it.
There is a hole in front of the gas fill section. It is meant for the evap system to purge air from tank while you fill. Sometimes, that makes a whistling noise too. If you try to cover it up the whole with a small piece of rag and go for a drive, see if that disappear. Don't forget to take out the rag when fill gas to avoid problem.
Why is he an a hole?
Thanks for the awesome info bro...will definitely be looking for an extended warranty on a used one.
Bottom line
BUY THE WARRANTY
“ANY” purchase
A car with only 53K miles should not have bad seals that leak and it was probably just the battery that needed to be replaced not the starter. But you did get the warranty so good for you.
Is this thing in the shop like ten months of the year
Great video. I have an opportunity to buy a 2008 911 base and your video helped a lot. Since this video is 3 years old, do you still have the car? And if so, any more issues?
Hey I do not have the car anymore so those were all the issues I had with it. I actually bought a truck and then ended up getting an Aston Martin
@@mikey201292 astin martin ? High maintanance
Good job you took out the warranty dude
Nice ride ! Anyone that can turn a key can turn a wrench . I would spend $2k on tools and a Bentley manual before an extended warranty but that's me . My 996 costs will be much different . It seemed to pay off on your trans seals . Do change your brake fluid every two years and change water pump at the specified interval .
I’m far too busy to mess around with my cars. I’ve done it in the past and it’s not worth it for me. But if can definitely save you some money.
VanaConn and I change the brake fluid at least once a year because I started doing some track events so that’s really important to make sure all that stuff is legit.
I understand .I sometimes sub out jobs on my cars but what Porsche charges is a bit over the top . You would be surprised how easy some of these jobs are . I won't say owning one is "cheap" but I wouldn't have it any other way . I could have bought a 370Z but it ain't the same .
VanaConn what kind of porsche do you have?
water pump change? Porsche should be smart enough to have a water pump to last at least 150,000 miles!
When I had a 930 I went to the dealer a couple of times but found an independent Porsche Certified Expert and I saved THOUSANDS of dollars over the life of that car and the 911SC before it.
Thanks for your video. I owned a 2001 996 that I bought at 55K. I sold it with 110K. Here is the work I had to do: clutch at 87K. Water pump at 93K. Air/oil separator at 99K. Of course the 60 and 90K services. I did mostly HWY miles and, overall, I thought it was mostly reliable. The rear tires last about 20K max. The brakes were still original at 110K and were 4 MM. I am interested in buying a 997 similar to yours.
Thank you for adding first hand experience to the knowledge base. It can only help the community to have these types of data points logged for everyone to see. There are many stories about positive experiences with the 996's, counter balanced with the owners who are saddled with the horror of sourcing re manufactured engines nearly equaling the value of the car. What was your thought process/experience concerning the IMS bearing? Again, thank you for your input. Real life data beats conjecture.
Thats not bad at all as for as the work you put into it after so many miles. From what I have heard the 996 are either awesome or horrible but I am glad you had a good experience! I have never driven a 996 but I love my 997. Honestly just an awesome car all around. Its great for everyday use as well as the track. I would assume its very similar to your 996 but a little bit updated. I will be posting some more videos soon!
I too had waterpump issue on my 996. Dealer replaced it under warranty.
@@john9968 I just had the timing belt changed along with the standard replacement of the water pump on my Audi for E420 Euros, or about $ 480 . That included the coolant too. I also own a Cayman S with 71k miles, and its proved very reliable.
Yep. Had the water pump and starter go but being an older car I accept things will break. It is what it is
Water pumps normally get changed out with timing belts on most cars every 40-50k miles or every 5/6 years.
When I bought my Porsche 911, the first thing I found after was a Porsche mechanic with his own shop. My cost of ownership is LOW!!!!
Yeah I should really look for one. The only thing I have paid for was a service so far so its not too much.
Where are you (and your mechanic) at?
Tampa Bay area
You can find a PCA approved inspection centre Porsche specialist in any city.
On mine I get the whistle if the sunroof is flipped up from behind. Slow cranking on mine was traced to bad wiring from the battery to the engine and that was covered by the Porsche dealer at a cost of around 1,000. They had told me the battery just needs charging.
yup, i agree with richx, it probably was just you r battery.
Thank God for warranties! I was into $5k with months ownership of my 05 vette. Only cost $50 deductible everytime.
Great video and hello from SE, PA
I'm surprised you could get extended warranty insurance for this car. They become money pits in short order.
That's the one big thing stopping me from getting a used 911 I just don't want to have that crazy Financial commitment to up keep it.
Rob J whoever did the service intervals did a bad job.
Thank you for the video. It was informative!
Thank you for watching! I am going to post some more videos with my 997, it seems like people are pretty interested in hearing reviews from someone who drives the car everyday!
I have had Hyundai's and Toyotas. I have never had any problems at 50 thousand miles. In fact I have never had any problems other than having the breaks replaced and a new battery after 100 thousand miles. Porsche should have fewer model changes and make a quality car. How many years have they been doing this?
I enjoy watching your videos. I'm curious was that a California Ferrari park in your garage.
Did you get a PPI?
Great Video. Thanks for the info
what Hi ,what is the name of the extended warranty ,hi both one to but i,m not the happy tanks
I have spent almost nothing on my C4s but it gets driven on weekend only in the summer. I prefer my 2 Audi cars. S4 is my favourite and I have never I had a single part fail on it since I bought it used with low miles 4 years ago. It is also stored in winter.
I guess you don't do your own service and get your own parts for cheap, save service costs. Invest in tools too and get a Bentley manual for Service & Repair + great info to have on VW stuff.
Did you get a PPI done when you purchased the car?
Sam Peplin no I did not get a PPI done
A PPI does not tell you when the engine or transmission will blow.
you have gold rolex. nice! at least that's reliable!
On his right hand lol
Are you sure that you want to track that car. Looks like it breaks any chance it gets.
haha I actually have not had a single problem with it since I posted this video. Granted, it hasn't been all that long but it seems to be in good shape
That's not breaking, that's deferred maintenance
How is a starter deferred maintenance? How is a leaking transmission deferred maintenance? How is a leaking water pump deferred maintenance? The car makes an annoying whistling noise while driving. How is that deferred maintenance? All that crap broke. Period. End of story.
Much easier to own on a budget if you can do some of this maintenance yourself.
Having mechanical skills is definitely a necessity but the fact that parts for these German cars are so expensive still makes them a real pain. Need to have a friend living in Germany to circumvent the high parts prices, if such would work.
Perfect 997. Love the color and rims style
Lucky fellow. Thanks for the post.
:D !!! THANKS! I jus got a lexus, and i was looking into Porsche. Your video reminded me of when i bought my AUDI...Oil leak, blown turbo. Yea no, I'll pass on the porshe now!
Its just one persons experience, and not nearly enough to base an opinion on.
That whistling may be from your windshield wipers! Sounds crazy, but it's true, had that issue with my Boxster
The factory Porsche windshield wipers actually have a little winglet on them to prevent the whistling
Not surprised at the problems you're having. That thing is beat up. I'd have never bought that thing just looking at the undercarriage and the overall condition. And I'd bet my 911 there were no service records available...... PASS!
kotro88 i agree that undercarriage looks bad
Your warranty negated the bulk of your service costs. Possibly a non-warranty situation with a private, non-factory, auto shop would have been a truer measure of what it cost to operate that 911.
Funny you mention "I got my money back" very positive way to look at it, but I see it as a loss.
Ron Galloway its a 2008 he said. They only blow up until 2006
My question is what extended warranty do you have?
My 02 996 water pump failed at 80k on the dot. Sad to hear the 997 had these issues under 60k. Most people get scared of the 996 due to the IMS bearing issues. Use this issue to your advantage, educate yourself and talk the price down. Find a good mechanic that only works on Porsche (I had a local Porsche race shop handle my repairs) and just replace this bearing when the clutch is serviced. From what I understand the first gen 997's had the same IMS bearing concern which was even worse due to Porsche welding the bearing to the shaft. Now if you have this issue in the 1st gen 997 you have to pull and replace the entire shaft... more work more money. First gen 996 had less issues with the IMS bearing due to the bearing used was much thicker than the gen 2 996. The 996 motor was completely redone in 2002 going from a 3.4 to the 3.6. The motor was better in everyway.....except the IMS bearing used was thinner. Do you research, love your car and enjoy the ride! I miss my 996
First gen 997`s had a much enlarged bearing with, at most, a 1% failure rate. And that was often due to the car lying up, or poor maintenance.
Can be around the windshield.
Nice two tone!
Michael Ronca sounds like your passenger window is probably slightly sliding down as it would if you were going to open the door. I think that’s were the noise is coming from or the sunroof if you have one. I now this is a response to a old question but just a thought 🤔.
I am also looking for one like yours with around 53000 miles from 2007 to 2009. if you do not mind, how much you paid for it?
I paid $45k for it. It is really a lot of car for the money. Buying a warranty probably wouldn’t be a terrible idea either lol
@@mikey201292 Thank you, I am looking for a 2009 c4s with about the same miles as yours, no more than 55000. Hopefully I could get it for $50K or less.
I think the whistle that you hear is the windshield. You need a new one. But research it a bit more just in case.
I'd check the driver and passenger window seals ,and check the lower air dam/fairings
2009 997S.2. $50k. Cant get warranty after 10yrs, which has high monthly being old ,risk higher
German cars must be engineered by watchmakers. They go coocoo too often.
NEVER by any German car out of Warranty, It's worth getting a warranty if you have to have o.ne
Why do people say it is common for leaks in a trans or anywhere when they drive a sports or luxury car from Europe? You don't hear a Honda or Toyota owner saying this, or expecting this, and their engines are directly recipients of their motorsport history like Indy Car and F1. If you make a quality engine you don't have leaks under 100,000 miles. IMO
It is about making money
"The only problems I've had with this car."
FML. Lol
is it for sale Michael
I have a good friend who's a great, cheap, mechanic.
thanks for the video. Not sure if the IMS is problematic for the 997.1? in the market of getting 997.1.
dee youcee I have 2005 997.1 and all 911 have ims issue till 2009 excluding turbo and GT3 but they sorted out 2009 with different engine and I have 2005 and had 987 boxster before that and I did IMS on my boxster with 95k miles and drove it for year and sold it for more than I bought and bought 997.1
I have never heard of the ims issues on the 997.1 but N/A soundsSoGood may be right. The 997.1 is a great car overall. I drive it a decent amount and it puts a smile on my face every time I get into it.
IMS only in 2005-2006, all 2007 until 2008 are free of this issue, 997.2 is the perfect 911 with no issues at all.
@cintra2 Correction, the latter 2006 until 2008 models have the larger ceramic single row IMS bearing, but they still have failure problems. It's guesstimated about less than 1%, but yet, they still can fail.
B3freak Does your Info come from Forum Groups or from the street? If forums, which one(s)? Forums = Experience magnified! Thx.
Who was the maintenance warranty from?
uri p it was from ameriplus.
My Honda is 25 years old with 260,000 miles and still has the original starter. Hmmm
My Porsche 928S2 is 33 years old and still has it's original starter. And it's original AC compressor. Your point would be-?
Comparing a high performance car to a Honda? Come on man.
I have boogers in my nose. Hmmm
Yeah, and you hear every bump on the road, too.
It's a Honda. 'Nuff said. :-P
DID THE IMS BEARING BLOW YET?
searaydrivingguy he said its a 2008. They only blew up (sometimes) until 2006 models
@@pierre0860 6% of cars, depending where you look for data. Not that it's comforting if you're in the pack of 6%. If $2k of repairs/maintenance is off-putting to someone, then time for a cheaper hobby.
Thanks.
One word used in this video reveals the source of the problems: Track. If I tracked a 10 year old car, I'd expect problems. I'd guess this car is driven hard.
Nice C4S!! Which warranty company do you have coverage with?
hey I have ameriplus. They have a done a good job so far, no warranty issues.
Thanks, I'll have to keep them in mind whenever I finally purchase one for myself.
You bought a bad 911 from the beginning. I have the same from that year, no problems. And i drive it a lot, not in winter do, its my only car. hi from Scandinavia. yea som plastic problems sure.
I want a used Carrera S after my current car is paid off, but this vid makes me cringe lol
BSfunk44 probably didn’t do every service that was needed
Spend all your disposable income before you die and what makes you happy. I'm not leaving anything to my kids, cause I paid for their education. Sink or swim MFkers. I love my new 4S, but then I can afford it.
As much as I love the look of these cars.....always have since the 70’s they are no way worth the hassle. Toyota for me
I never understood why Toyota was so highly praised. When I was a mechanic, I worked on them more than any other vehicle and there were way more Domestic trucks around. I will never buy a Toyota.
I own a Porsche 4S with a powerkit and I love it. But then I can also afford it.
@@thegrmcrckr488 interesting. As someone who has owned 30 cars or so and have several friends that are long time mechanics they all swear by Toyota and never buy German. With that being said I purchased a Cayenne😁.....she loves it
Porsche reliability are so overrated. Most porsches have really low miles until they are 10 years old with 50k miles & shit starts to go wrong.
can I detail your car, get those swirls out
Without a doubt , the best thing you did was buy a decent warranty
lee martin yeah the warranty is definite I’ll a good idea on a higher end or exotic car
I don't understand how can a 60.000km car can have so many problems. I expect much more form a brand like Porsche. I don't think it's reasonable compared with much more cheap cars.
seals starter . etc etc after 50K miles? not good
Bet you there was nothing wrong with his starter, but just his battery. And they probably stiffed him for a Porsche battery, which is three times of the cost of an identical spec Yuasa, Die hard, Bosch etc....
No IMS issue??
That is mostly confined to M96 engine 996 model and Boxsters up to around 2006. At worst, it affected about 4% of cars, and often cars seeing little regular use.
Those saying for him to learn to do the repairs himself, really? He’s wearing a $14k Rolex, has a Ferrari in the garage and lives a top a mountain in a $1mm home. Smh
Jfit lol thank you. If I spent all my time working on cars I wouldn’t have time to make any money. Some people just don’t understand opportunity cost haha
@@mikey201292 what do you do for a living?
@@talknheadz making youtube video?
what's your mileage on this c4s
65000. I have put 15000 miles on it over 2 years and the only problems that I had are included in this video. No more issues almost a year later.
You have been very patient... whistling on a porsche.... get angry....
You need to increase the volume on your mic the volume is way too low
you could have made this video in less windy condition so we could hear what u saying.thanks /great anyway...would have been a lot better..
Here why the prices of the air cooled 911s have gone so high
Taking it to the stealership is the 1st probelm
For the prices Porsche charges for these cars, they should need NOTHING for the first 10 years other than 'normal wear & tear' items like tires, wiper blades, oil and air filters. Same with other 'luxury exotic' car manufacturers. All these marques SHOULD have virtually ZERO issues for the first decade (unless the car is beaten by the owner, of course) and SHOULD be as reliable as a Honda, Toyota, etc. for that same time period. It IS a quality control issue. It's despicable that Porsche, et. al. rest more on their image to sell cars rather than a very high level of QUALITY.
@nunya if feel the same way you do but yet everyone defends them due to there " superior german engineering". Now honda and toyota have great engineering! I am sure the 911 drives fantastic but they are not built as reliable as they should be for what they cost!
Gerry N I’ve been saying that for a very long time,it seem the old saying (you get what you pay for ) doesn’t apply to the Germans lol.
Porsche 911 with 60K needed all that work? Either you bought a junker or the dealer took advantage of the insurance policy. There's no way the car just needed all that stuff with so milage lol
Harley Wright I am with you on this I guarantee the dealer looked up to the sky blew a big kiss and out came the don't worry we will put it all down to the warranty.
You didn’t get a PPI on the car. All of these problems could’ve been solved before you even bought the car.
Just touch them, You can tell how high performance they are! 😂😂
Hello, I have one Porsche Carrera S 911 997 2006, 0 problem!
Paulo Barros So far, so Good!
Not trying to be a hater, but you should buy a 370zzz
Charles Ruiz why? So he can have a Nissan??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣Gaaaaaay!
Nice rolex
Is your name really "Christy"?
Nice Rolex 😎
Check out his Rollie.
carmax selling Porsches, they last 3 days , .SOLD
7 day return, 30day warranty
$35k Box S. 2013, 50k miles, loaded $88k sticker.
Florida ship to OKLAHOMA, $280
6yr ext max warranty 50% of others. SOLD
I can fix the whistle......
Don't go 100 mph.
That will be $3500
Sorry not covered by warranty.
Its not a true 911! Porsche stopped making real cars when they went to air cooled engines and electric steering?
I was sorry for you until 6:15 :D
Young punks always have car problems.......gee I wonder why ?
Go to TAVARISH's channel. Go buy some tools. Get busy and wrench on your own car and stop being a princess.
You are being ripped off!! Over 3k for tie rod ends?
TyronePatOne lol I never paid a dime for repairs. It was all under warranty
Still way cheaper than a new one
wow, a cheap Honda works better than this
yup, don't be fooled by jerman engineering