I Bought My Dream Daily - 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera S 997
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- It finally happened, I own a Porsche! I just couldn't pass up this 997. It checks all the boxes for me. Manual, fixed roof and a clean title. Checkout the video to hear the specifics of this deal.
Here's a guy who loves cars and had a specific car in mind for all the right reasons. He did his research, cast his net, did the leg work, and hooked the right one.
I'm so happy this video exists. This man is keeping car culture alive in the truest sense of the word, and for all the right reasons.
Congrats!, It warms my heart when i see others achieving their dreams, i hope all of your dreams come true including that 918.
Why thank you!
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I bought a used 2008 Cayman S w/17,000 miles on it back in Jan 2013 for $39.9K. It is a weekend driver...and I utterly LOVE it! And my experience was somewhat similar to yours-- saw the car at a Porsche dealership in Scottsdale, AZ. So I negotiated on the phone and flew down to do a final inspection and pull the trigger...One of the best moves I've ever made. My Cayman S still has only 37K miles on it. Have a BLAST with your new 911S!!!!
The Porsche bug is infectious! Enjoy! I have a 2013 Panamera turbo S and it is my last as i am older. Crazy fast. I've probably owned every car imaginable. This is it!! Congratulations!
A Turbo Posche is definitely in my future. ENjoy!
Do you still have the Turbo S?
manual shift. major props. thank you for letting the engine speak every once in a while.
Congrats i own a 997.1 2007 4s it is an amazing car you will love it or lets say every day fall in love with it .. the flat 6 sound will amaze u
Just under 30k for an S with that mileage 😱😱😱 what a deal
I thought so!
I just bought a 2006 997S that was better equipped with 70k miles for 28,500. I felt blessed
There £19k in uk, $24k but rhd lol
A car like that Is at least aud 80000 here in Australia so it’s usd 57000
Base 05 For 35k? 25k miles good deal?
Can’t lose out with any Porsche 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Congrats! A great car ! I own the 2005 997 Carerra S, i have had it for 3 years now. I have some good tips for you about maintenace and easy up-grades that protects your 3.8 liter a little bit more.
1. Change oil every 5000 miles ! VERY IMPORTANT ! And use 5W-40 ! Not 0W-40 My personal Choice is Valvoline Synpower
2. Buy a spin-on oil filter adapter lnengineering.com/products/oil-change-bundles/oil-change-bundle-configurable.html , and get rid of the original cartridge filter, much better oil flow and filtering as you can use Syntetic spin-on filters like Royal Purple or Amsoil. it will take about 10 minutes to make the Upgrade.
3. A must have in my opinion is also the Low-temp. thermostat lnengineering.com/products/other-watercooled-stuff/cooling/160f-low-temperature-thermostat-insert-only-use-tool-106-062-to-remove-install.html , the factory thermostat doesn't start to even open until 186.8F and doesn't fully open until almost 210F This causes hotspots inside your engine that can result in cracked heads and cylinder failures from overheating. Also, little known is the fact that oil temperatures usually run 10-15F higher than coolant temperature in engines equipped with oil to coolant heat exchangers. Installation of a 160F low temperature thermostat lowers coolant temperatures which lowers oil temperatures. And can help to prevent Bore scoring.
4. Check for RMS leak, between the gearbox and engine, if a little wet there its nothing to worry about, but keep and eye on it, and if you someday should change the clutch, have the RMS changed With the upgraded Seal.
5. As a preventive maintenance, its advisable to change the water pump every 4 years
6. Every 2 years take off the bumper and clean the radiators, you can find information about this easy if you google
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A ton of great information here, thanks for sharing and I hope it helps others out who are new owners. Interesting your point about thermostat. This is my first Porsche but I was shocked at the cruising temp of the oil. I had to google it to see what others were experiencing and I was relieved to see that this was 'normal' at least for the car. I'll look into a low temp thermostat.
All good info.
EatSleepDrive, try to read www.hartech.org/images/downloads/Hartech%20Engine%20Guide%20(interim).pdf and you will Thermostat recommendation verified on p.42. Hartech are the engine gurus in the UK and they actually recommend Millers Nanotech NT(+) 10W-50 annually as a minimum.
996s are actually slightly more reliable than 997.1 S. However, all great cars.
ecolyn how can you tell him what oil to use without knowing his driving conditions/climate?
RS2Russ you can’t just recommend an oil universally especially for quirky cars. And for Christ’s sake please let’s start advising people track usage requires different fluids
In my experience, 5W-40 holds Down to -25 degree, and for 997 that have some miles on it 5W-40 its a good Choice according to oil consumption, i have in house experience With Mobil 1 0W-40, my car swallowed oil, after switch to 5W-40 oil consumption dropped With jaw-dropping effect
I drove my older brothers 2004 996 a year ago and I’m obsessed with trying to get one now. 997 would be even better, but I was comfortable reving his car out within like 4 mins. So easy to shift and drive, and super quick. I love these cars!!
Nice car! I bought a unicorn-spec 997.1 C4S with a complete maintenance history from the other side of the state and drove it over 500 miles the next day. It’s always worth traveling for the right car. It got home without any problems whatsoever.
In addition to the previously mentioned advice regarding the low temp t-stat, always warm up the engine gently before putting a heavy load on it. Keep it below 3000rpm and don’t lug it until the oil temp is just north of 200 degrees. This will minimize the chance of bore scoring.
Congrats! Very similar to my story. The Porsche was always my dream car and I knew someone whose client had a Porsche with just over 28,000 miles on it for sale. It was owned by a woman who bought it for a weekend toy, but hardly used the car, hence the low miles. It is a 996, but I've had it for over six years and it runs smooth as silk and is still in pristine condition.
My dream car actually materialized, glad to see yours did too!
Wow that's very low mileage. Good find. Enjoy!
Your happiness helped me regain my humanity, thank you and I wish you all the best
You as well!
Congratulations! This is also on my list as an attainable dream car. Hopefully in a year or two.
This was great to watch! I'm glad you love it! I just sold my 2006 997 Carrera S 3 months ago (silver, manual, sports chrono, sport seats) at 59k miles. I bought mine 3 years ago for $33k and sold it for $35k to a dealership so it wasn't a bad deal for me. I put about 20k miles on it and it was super special. I only sold it to try something new. Bullet proof 911 though, never had a single problem and I love the sound of that 3.8 liter flat 6. You get so much performance for the money at $30k.
I love how well yours held it's value. I'm hoping for more of the same.
Honestly as long as it stays mostly stock it should as long as you keep the miles below 100k. I think it has to do with it being one of the last NA engines left aside from the 991 engines since they are putting turbos in most everything now. The 997 S w/ manual is such a great recipe for fun.
Awesome! My 2010 997 has been a good experience as well. I recently replaced a latch mechanism on the driver side and the PCM, but overall, I’m satisfied.
I like how the gears sound.75000 miles, car hasn't been broken in yet. You got a good deal.
I bought a 2006 C2S for $27k in 2015. The car was a good condition but had 91k miles on it. 6MT of course... I went through the car thoroughly, fixed everything these was to fix, put FVD full Exhaust (including headers and Sport cats) on it, put a lot of interior CF pieces, repainted the front (rock chips), put a full PPF, put PSS9 on it etc, etc. Total repair and upgrades bill: $26k. sold the car after a year for $37k. The guy that bought it got himself a poor man’s GT3 for less than $40k (the car dynoed at 345WHP after the tune, Exhaust and intake upgrades). Loved that car! Second built car of all (35+ now) I have ever owned. Second only to my 1998 LS400 which was bullet proof. The only consolation was that I replaced my 911 with a 2014 R8 V10 6MT. Enjoy!!
I wouldn't mind replacing it for the same car someday..
Tim Tursonoff you bought it for 27k then spent another 26k on upgrades and sold it for 37k after a year? Wow that sucks, you lost a pile of money on that
lifehackertips well, it is a part of the experience. I did enjoy the car for sure.
Great clip, I feel what you feel, brother (or rather felt) as I bought the same car, same model S, same year 2006 for the same price (around $30K) just about 2 years ago. Mine had 95K on odometer and was deemed in excellent shape per the pre-purchase inspection. I put 10 K on it so far, only one problem, water pump died but it's normal given the mileage according to my mechanics who is a Porsche specialist. I kept my daily Ford Edge which explains my relatively low yearly mileage because this 911 is not a very practical car for daily usage (tough suspension, noisy, limited visibility for backing-up)... but it's a 911, a dream car that will give you so much fun when you drive it hard... and such a pleasure just watching it, sitting in the garage or on a parking lot and you will think: it's the only one of this kind around here, not everybody's car, not to be own or driven by any nobody, no Sir, owning it makes you somebody, just look at the envy in the eyes of the people watching you driving by!
Glad to hear you've had a pretty much problem free ownership so far. That's all I can ask for at this point!
Love the review keep them coming 👏🏽🤜🏽
I don't see a big smile very nice car. Safe purchase IMO. Congrats!
Congrats man! I was originally looking for a 997.1-S (05-06 because they're a bit easier to service than 07-08...supposedly), but came across an '09 Cayman S (987.2, Sports Cronos, manual...pretty rare for '09) I couldn't pass up. No regrets. I was in Cincinnati at the time too, now in Chicago, and flew down to Houston. Driving back, I got super familiar with the car...a little more than 1000 miles! I think these mid-late 2000's cars (Cayman and 911) are a steal right now, offer more convenience than you might imagine, and really have become the ideal daily driver sports car. To anyone on the fence, pull the trigger. You won't regret it!
I bought my 2008 997 Carrera S 1 1/2 years ago.Same mileage.My color is Basalt Metallic Black, interior is a Palomino Tan leather. Incredible car.I added some performance parts, Fabspeed dual intake, car pick up is so much better, and a complete Fabspeed exhaust system, headers and free flowing catalytic converters,all with a super nice chrome finish.The car is a beast on the freeway. Very Happy with it.
I got my 996 last year- bought in Palm Beach and drove it home to Omaha. Total blast, love my Porsche
I can't wait for the day I buy a 997
We just bought ours! Such a sick car!
Same. I really want one. It's a simple car. It's a nice car. It's a cheap car. It's a fast car.
Great buy!!! Can't beat the 996 or 997 prices!! You'll love it!
Thanks for the video, I am sixty two. I’ve owned the 996 Carrera and it was a great car (I did buy aftermarket mirror teardrop headlights that made a GREAT improvement); then sold it and MISSED it. I bought a 2007 Yellow Carrera S Cabriolet (paid more than thirty)..but you are right: It is a great car. You did well young man...also: don’t be afraid to do your own maintenance..use the DIY and save a lot and bond..
The color is called "Atlas Grey Metallic" factory code E7. It is was cheaper, because it looks rather low optioned model and as you said, tough sell in the winter. All in all - really good deal. I have 06 Atlas Gray Metallic 997 C2S as well. Congrats and enjoy the car.
I did the same thing! Lol. Same car different color. Staying at bottom of depreciation curve, fingers crossed. First Porsche, not my last. We took two 1200 mile trips right off the bat, no problems. Take it to Tail of the Dragon, what a blast. Porsche a Palooza in Eureka Springs, AR. Same gas mileage as you. Thumbs up. Subscribed.
Congrats!! Taking a Porsche on a road trip is so much fun. @1:55 what a relief to see it’s a manual. My Boxster is a manual and that was a requirement when I bought it. It was located in Virginia and I was in Missouri at the time. That’s funny, I used to live in NC and I bought my wrangler in Wilmington. I agree @8:26. The Boxster was a achievable dream car for me that I loved since high school. My unrealistic dream car is a Ferrari 488 spider. And there’s no manual for it.
Just bought this same car Friday but in black on black and has been a dream of mine for a long time. Loving it so far and hope to daily this car for a long time!
Hey - congrats on the purchase! I owned a 1982 Porsche 911SC for almost 17 years and the 911 was always my dream car too. I just recently sold it for 3x what I paid for it years ago to chase my other dream car...a 1991 Acura NSX. I’m in Cincinnati too - would love to meet up someday with our cars and go for a drive.
Ironic that I was looking into the same cars as you too when I sold my 911SC.....best bang for your buck with the 996, 997 is a solid car...just had to chase my NSX dream before the prices got so out of control I could never afford one. subbed to your channel too!
NSX is on my list too but I'm afraid they're never going to be cheap enough again for me to accord one. You can usually catch me at Fuel Cincinnati cars and coffee when the weather is a little better.
WOAH! How is the NSX treating you??!
Best car Porsche ever produced! I have 2006 since new never had any trouble, interiors and wind noise, hey it's a 911. Intended to keep it forever. Fresh engine oil always. Enjoy my friend.
I own a 1996 993 C2, Iris blue metallic, 58,000 miles, runs like a swiss watch, 25mpg, 6 speed manual. There is no substitute.
You got a very beautiful 997. I owned 2007 Carrera 4. After I got this car 11years ago, I modified engine once, but nothing big problems so far. And I used own 240sx(SR20DET). We are kind of similar taste! Enjoy your beautiful Carrera S!!
Congrats on the 997 Carerra S! That is a good color combination and has great looking wheels. I owned a 2007 Boxster for a while and that was my introduction to the brand and I have been a fan ever since. Next time, I may go looking for a 911 and I hope you enjoy yours!
I'd be curious your thoughts if you go with a 911 vs your Boxster. I've driven the same generation Cayman but never a Boxster(albeit they're basically the same).
Excellent video! This is also my realistic dream car. Saving each month so I can hopefully buy one by summer 2019!
Congrats on achieving your dream. What a great daily! Recently acquired a 987.2 Cayman and couldn't be happier. The Porsche Flat-6s are a joy to experience.
I bought my first dream car a 996C4S 4 years ago. The car was extremely reliable. I sold it 3 months ago for the same price and bought a997.2 C4S. I believe you took the right decision. #leavingthedream
I'd be very happy with that outcome.
Congratulations on buying the right car at the right time 🎊🎈🎉 The 997s asking prices have increased significantly!
Congrats! I just bought my dream 997 a month ago. 05 997 C2S with sport chrono plus, 20" wheels, and a few other goodies. At 48k miles it cost a bit more than yours, but I'm loving it either way. Bought it in Phoenix and drove it home to Missouri. 1200 very enjoyable miles!
Congratulations from 2024!!!!🎉🎉🎉
Congratulations that is a beautiful car I am so happy for you. It has so many similarities of the 991. It still looks very modern
Thanks so much!
@@EatSleepDriveHi, I am everything but a mechanic, and I saw your other video about the runningcosts. Do you think it is worth buying if you’re not good on working with cars? Is it going to be really expensive if you have to use a mechanic almost all the time?
Wow Great Car,My Dream Car ! Very nice video
U work hard and it shows. Congrats
matthew vancourt I work hard too... at McDonald’s
TurgBurglar ouch! Customer neglect and abuse at pay that doesn't show anywhere near your worth and value...you have my sympathy.
matthew vancourt thanks Matthew. That’s the nicest thing anybody has said to me in a while. I am working my way up in the world, so it is all good. Merry Christmas or winter holiday of your choice. Me, I celebrate winter solstice. Days are getting longer from here on out.
TurgBurglar keep at it, you'll be in something better in no time. Happy winter solstice to you as well!
TurgBurglar hey man ! There are Porches out there for you ! Look at used 944 ! Wonderful cars to drive, not too pricey, cheap parts and satisfying Porsche ownership. Love my 86 944 turbo 😄good luck
Congrats!! It’s special because you get to experience an NA flat 6. Wonderful car for the money. I’ve been thinking about daily driving a 996.
Thanks! A 996 was definitely on my radar and I likely would have ended up in one if this car didn't come along.
996 is garbage.
Good buy on the Porsche 911.
I hope you do some crazy snow rallying !
DOWORK EXOTICS do it you will not regret it! On my 3rd 996 and my previous was a 996tt, so had the budget for a 997, but went back to a 40th AE 996 and have zero regrets.
says the guy without a Porsche, my 996 kicks ass
Congrats! I stumbled across your video and I had to watch it since I bought an 997 the same week you did.
Same miles, Mans trans and (seal) grey exterior with black interior. Hope the cars will treat us well.
That's crazy! Here's to hoping these both stay together.
Love the car , congratulations! Enjoy it everyday, I hope one of these days I will own my too. And thank you for calling it PorschE
Congratulations on your find, and many thanks for sharing your experiences! Subscribed!
Great video brother. Enjoy million of miles with ur car and keep making videos. Good luck!
Congrats my man! That is a great deal. Ironically I bought my Porsche from NC as well. 550 miles from my house, great way to get to know your new baby
Just found your channel, great video. I have owned three 911S's over many years and have had a great experience with each one. Not only that, I sold them for more than I paid for them, without trying. I'm searching for my next 911 now, either a 997.2 or 991.1. There are numerous 991.1's coming on the local market from lease returns. And like you stated in your video, the asking price difference between models is not that much. So, I've got my eyes and ears wide open! Good luck with your 997, you'll love it the more you drive it.
Thanks! Yes, it's crazy how well 911's hold their value after they do their initial depreciating. Enjoy whichever you choose, you can't go wrong with either, as you know already.
The 997 gen is maybe THE gen of 911's to own. As long as the buyer can afford the upkeep to keep it in mint condition. There are so many guy out there that dreamt of owning a 911..barely afford the 996 or 997...but DID NOT figure on the costs and were not prepared to pay the bills required.
Congrats! :)
997? Sweet, they are double the price here in FIN, my dream car aswell
Will follow!
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As someone who in 2005, bought a used 996 because I wanted a Porsche that was "affordable" you made the right choice. There is much hate for the 996 from Porschephiles.
You tube "997 top gear", that review convinced me. Best decision ever
Congratulations! This is my next daily driver goal/dream car. I bought a 2015 335i instead of going for an early model 996 for the practicality to fit my golf clubs and carpooling kids :) Good luck!
Hey, I can't knock someone for being responsible. They'll always be one for you in the future.
Fabspeed maxflow exhaust system first, which provided a significant boost of torque and hp, then cold air intake. Have not had it dynoed but definitely can hear and feel the difference. Much more throaty without being to loud. Would recommend it.
This car has appreciated a solid $10-15k since the time he bought it. Wild
Congrats! I bought a 987.2 Cayman in Raleigh NC last year and drove it back to Colorado in 2 days.
And I thought my drive was long..
1700 miles was a great way to get familiar with the car. Got to see a lot of the country at the end of October.
A very good video, I’m a car guy also and have been fortunate to have owned many high performance cars over the years and have settled on the Porsche 911 for many reasons. I like cars that are a good value as well as fun to drive, reasonable maintenance costs are important also. The 911 checks all the boxes. Currently I own a 2001 996 C2 6 speed, a 2005 997 S tiptronic and a 2014 Cayenne Turbo so I’m all in with Porsche. The 996 is so much fun to drive because it’s the most analog of the two 911’s, unfortunately I have a knee problem which limits my driving that car. I love the 997, those who knock the Tiptronic should drive one before making up their minds, it’s a very good transmission. A well sorted older 911 is a pleasure to own and drive.
How funny, I just bought a 2006 997 Carrera S (with Chrono Package), and my favorite car happens to be a R8 as well! I'll be watching your videos from now on. Thanks! Stephan
Well done buddy!!! Hope you keep it for life.
We also have a 2006 997 C2S (42k miles) with manual trans. We agree, it is an absolute blast as a daily.
Congrats on the purchase! It is a beautiful car.
Atlas Grey is an amazing color!
had my 2005 997 Carrera for 98K miles and still love it
Just noticed that was pilot mountain in the background
It sure was. Good eye!
I recently bought a 2005 997. I can’t wait to see what your experiences with the car are. Good luck.
Dang I missed out, wish I could still get one of these cars for a price close to that. They have shot up like a rocket.
Very nice! Congrats on the new car. I think you are right a 997 manual hard top with black interior is a great buy and will hold it's value. Especially a Carrera S with the fantastic wheel and brake combination! Enjoy
Thanks!
Looks great. They're superb cars. Enjoy (like you needed telling)!
Thanks!
A friend of ours just picked up an '06 C4S and he loves it! We had an 06 Boxster and I think one of the nicest additions from the 996 is PASM. Great for our crummy side roads here in Colorado ;). Just cut open the oil filter if you are worried about the IMS, but the failure rates in the latter 06 is super low. Love the sound! Congrats on your super cool new car! P-cars are awesome :)
Props for going 6 speed. I am on my third 911 currently (996C2, 996turbo, 997turbo) such great cars. Engineered to be amazing every day.
It look SUPER awesome. Great color!!
Love it man. That's what im looking at next. Just have to sell my Cobra now lol.
Congrats on the new whip, Porsche is also my dream car.... One day, one day.
great video. you have a very authentic style.
Yes! Nicely done.
Thank you!
Purchase cost and drivers experience are unbelievable, all the tiny little maintenance items over just a few years drove me nuts. Glad to have owned one, but went back to a newer Audi that I could modify and had all the creature comforts
Got the cayman S instead, that I push a lot on the HWY in Texas. Since I drive Porsches, I cry everytime I have to drive another car (I have a Prius, a Beemer, an Audi, a Maserati and a Mercedes). Those cars handle anything. Next car will be again a Porsche most likely.
These are better looking than the current car.
Congrats and beautiful car man! Enjoy it :)
We know what you feel ! Flew to phoenix 5 yrs ago and drove our 85 carrera 3.2 home . Pelican parts car , lots of black, red, silver cars near Pennsylvania but not IRIS BLUE METALLIC 😄 Good luck with the 997 !
Not going to lie, I had to google iris blue metallic but damn was it worth it.
EatSleepDrive thanks! Former owner of our has a utube video. If you are interested check Mark Malin Porsche on utube
Congrats on the purchase. I’ve got a 06 red 911 carrera cabriolet and love driving it every day.
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997 for the win, great choice!
Looks sick man! Congrats!
Great video. Thank you!!
Glad you liked it!
The 06 997S is an AWSUM automobile. I bought mine 5 years ago with 6K miles. It now has 30K on it. Over the years I have changed the exhaust system and air intake. Both have improved the sound and certainly the performance. My plans are to pass it along to my daughter after she graduates from GT next year and buy myself a 991 GTS. Also, I plan to retire soon and puts LOTS of miles on the GTS...
What exhaust system do you go with? I'm thinking about doing that as well.
Bro i dont even know you but your channel is looking sweet so far! Keep it up.
Hey thanks man!
Congrats on your new Porsche! I can totally attest to the same absolute love for Porsches after having driven one. I hope you're enjoying it and would love to see updates on your experiences with the car over time. I have been searching around for a 997 911 S myself and am just waiting for the right timing and car to pick one up.
I also almost rented that same Cayman in CO in early December, subbed and watching that video next!
Some nice views of Pilot Mountain in this video.
Very nice 997 S. I want one with the GT3 aero kit. They look badass! 😎👍🏻
Awesome, I just sold my 2006 C2, still have my 996. I agree what you say about the 996's being stupid good deals right now! Love your C2S, enjoy it!
Around 7 minutes I can see Pilot Mountain in the rear window.
Sound is better than the news Porsche
Hi I like your review it’s a great achievement to get the car you love and you won’t be disappointed I have a997s for two years and they are great fun it’s so much car at an affordable price and the value will hold if you look after it. Tom
Thanks!
You should make a video dedicated to the exhaust! A lot of people want to know what the STOCK exhaust on the 997's sound like. It would be cool have a video where you had different angles of the exhuast, launches, and cold starts.
I will add that to the list.
I just did the "gundo hack" last week and am very happy with the result! The stock exhaust in the 997S is too quiet!
recently got a 997.2 C2S myself :) congrats man! so fun to drive.
Enjoy sir!
Echoing what EatSleepDrive says, this is a fantastic car! I just picked up a '07 Carrera S 6speed manual in October. Looks just like the car in this video except I have the Sports Chrono package - turn on that and you can wake up the entire neighborhood. I assume that yours is also Atlas Grey? This is an unbelievably beautiful color that changes colors depending on the lighting. In twilight or early morning with the sun it looks navy blue. On overcast days, it looks grey or black. I also heard that on non-turbos, this was a $3.6K option! Therefore, it's a very rare color. So far, so good for me. Wishing you the best with your new choice and I hope you keep it for a while! Merry Christmas all...
I believe the car to be Atlas Grey as well although rather embarrassingly I can't find the paint code on the car. It is a fantastic color though and I didn't know it was such an expensive option! Thanks for sharing.
I haven't confirmed the cost of the paint option but I saw someone on Rennlist posted that cost. Regardless, it's a beautiful color and a tremendous car. BTW, I've been driving 5 series Bimmers, including my current car a '07 530i with sports, premium and cold weather packages + a 6 sp manual. Seriously nice car but the Carrera S is just another level of driving.
Too bad it's so frickin' cold.... I'm stuck driving my Outback for the next few weeks until it warms up.