Genuinely one of the best changes they've made to the two new lines of products (t series refresh, and the M+) is ditching the awkward halfway house of the 13 button options, and just offering a clean 12 button layout. I've enjoyed my M12 + enough to want to have one with art, so now I have a T12 alongside my Mpress and other various options. I get newer people are attracted to more buttons, but I vastly prefer the traditional layout.
Yeah, it's good on them to have options: lots of buttons and then something more traditional, best of both worlds. Thanks for watching and weighing in!
I have to be honest, I really like the 13 button options! They don't feel as cluttered as the 16 button ones do to me, but they're still great for genres other than fighting games (I use it for shmups as well). Still, I get why they'd want to consolidate around more popular options.
Yeah, I'm a bit partial to the slightly bigger buttons like arcade sticks of old, so it's cool to have this as an option for people who feel similarly. Thanks for watching, dude! Appreciate ya!
Just purchased this after seeing your review! I was the one who asked u in Reddit PMs about those Pico FightBox models a few days ago Thanks for all you do!
Thanks, Lendin! Can't go wrong with those crystal corners. If you need one for yourself, I grabbed it from a nice etsy shop called DiscoDigital for a reasonable price. Thanks for watching!
Im glad Cosmox decided to offer the clear switches by themselves, in case you wanted to upgrade your board to the "crystal' version. Thanks for the videos!
Yeah, I completely agree with that! And if you're interested in other switch options, I'll let you know what I think of some of their other switches soon enough. Thank you for watching/commenting!
My last comment got eaten (pretty sure why) but I just wanted to say that for people who own older versions of this board, they offer the crystal switches by themselves. I replaced the reds on my older T13 and the light distribution is much more even, and it's nice to have switches without any color so they blend better with more types of artwork.
I don't see anything in the "held for review" section, but maybe your first comment will come through eventually. Sometimes if a user hasn't watched much before commenting, it gets flagged and held in limbo or something. IDK how it all works TBH. But regardless, you're right about the transparent switches when it comes to different art styles. It opens a lot more doors aesthetically. Thanks for watching!
@@HushMySweet1 Sometimes when I mention the name of the store where something is available it just... doesn't go through. No idea why, but this isn't the first time it's happened to me! Either way, easy enough to figure out where the switches are sold. Thanks for covering all these controllers! Always fun to see what new stuff is out there. Next one I'm really interested in is the LightFox from Speedy Labs. I've got his Sound Voltex controller and it's a delight to use.
I have that controller and plan on a video of it in July! Just lots of projects and I'm slower than I'd like to be with my editing. But in the meantime I'll say that I had a lot of fun with the theming of it, lol. (and I also have a Sound Voltex Vividwave machine in my basement, so kindred spirits you and I!)
Do you mind linking where u got the foam pad? I recently ordered the R16 and would love to have one for it because as much as I love acrylic its really slippery ^^'
I hate it when that happens! The silver lining is that they are fairly similar, so I hope you dig your new controller all the same! Thanks for watching, dude!
@@HushMySweet1 Thanks dude. I'm fine with the key caps for now, but the switches on the crystal seem nice. Guess I'll have to keep an eye out for a guide on switches 👀
Indeed you will! I've got some switch stuff coming down the pipe. Aliexpress has both 20-packs of the Crystals you saw in this video and their newer Wind Engine variety for around ~$15. I'll try to demo some here soon so you can have some context to inform your buying decisions. Thanks for the support!
Hey man. I was tempted to go for this model but my main in sf6 is zangief and I’m not sure if I’ll be able to do slides for SPD with the raised buttons. I saw you demoed that on your M16 video. Did you test that on this one? Sorry for the specific question but I haven’t been able to find an answer on this lol.
Hey! Yeah, this one has caps that extend ~4 mm above the top plexi, so the slides are passable and fairly similar to a lot of other default all-button options. So not the worst, but not its best feature either. But the caps are smooth, even on the edges, so that helps. Still, you'll like have to get a feel for the pressure and speed to do clean slides every single time. Easiest slide experience I have had was a Slab MX where I changed out the full size switches to lower stem variants. Hope that helps and thanks for watching!
@@HushMySweet1 thanks for the reply man! I think the Slab MX is a bit out of my budget but this haute models are extremely tempting to me. I’ve been curious about a leverless for quite some time now and the
They do look pretty cool. Maybe since there's some interest, I'll see if I can order one. I've got a slew of other controllers and products to work through first, so it may be a hot minute. Thanks for watching/commenting!
I don't have them on my to-do video list currently, but if there is sufficient interest from subs, then I try to get the models people ask about. I can't promise anything, but which are you more interested in seeing covered? And if I did get one, is there some specific element of the controller you want me make sure I address?
@HushMySweet1 the nacon daiju I'd like to see covered more. Not only 1 do I like it better than the pro but 2 while I do like it's design I feel like covering it's over all customization and weight would be my primary focus and the slip pads be the secondary
@@brycerathsack7885 Are you aware of a good source for people from the US to get them? I'm seeing €249.90 (on sale) plus EU shipping on their website for the PlayStation version. Then ebay has a couple NIB versions that could work, but again, over $300 USD. Where did you get yours?
the usbc port on my t16 died after about two months of use, it sucks I have to but I guess I'll just get this as a replacement cause I find the layout with the all 30mm buttons layout super comfortable and there doesn't seem to be any other options for that at the same price point
Hmmm, I hate to hear that. I'm hoping that your experience is an anomaly and doesn't trend toward the rule. I haven't had issues with any of mine (but I don't play on one single controller all the time so I'm sure they've got a lot fewer hours than yours), so I'm hoping your situation is more of a one-off. Haute42 has a pretty active discord, so it might be worth reaching out there to let them know the situation to see if they can facilitate a good solution. Goodwill goes a long way in the FGC so I'm hoping they would like to see you get it resolved. Still, let us know if you pull the trigger on a new one and how this next one works for you. And thank you for watching!
@@HushMySweet1 I managed to fix it by bending the port back and hopefully it's all good now, ended up buying the crystal anyway because it's so cheap and it can't hurt to have a spare for when people come round to play
What are the dimensions you use when printing art. I use 296*196 millimeters in gimp with the template from the haute 42 server but when I turn it into a pdf after making it an image and print it. It is slightly bigger than my t16 crystal. I've used both A3 and Legal paper and still ran into issues
I'm not overly familiar with Gimp, but 1) I would first double-check the size. Compare it to the .psd layout available on Focus Attack. Probably the exact same, but I would want to confirm. 2) Then, look at the print options in your program. See if it allows you to print to scale, or alternatively uncheck the aspect ratio box to play with the settings there. ...That would be where I would start. Good luck and I hope you get it figured out! Thanks for watching.
That one is a Mayflash MagicBoots v1.1 for Playstation. If you want Xbox compatibility you'd need something different. So, it functions similarly to the Wingman, but not quite the same.
You can do things like that with GP2040-CE, but unless it's a function within the game (like Guilty Gear or something with an established dash macro) you're getting into custom macro territory. gp2040-ce.info/web-configurator/menu-pages/macros You've got to know some programming and it can get complicated quickly. Check out an old video I did regarding custom macros. It's not legal and the vid was more of a call to awareness so we could collectively try to stop this, but there's little to stop people from macro'ing DPs, Scoops, and even full combos if they know what they are doing. th-cam.com/video/mu5L7tl6Orc/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=HushMySweet
You can change everything! Lots of customization options. Check this out for more info! Thanks for watching. gp2040-ce.info/web-configurator/menu-pages/settings
Check out DiscoDigitalShop on etsy and they can print you up one! They've also got most all the sizes for each type of Haute42 controller. Thanks for watching!
So you can change button functions with GP2040-CE firmware, so just remap it to something else or disable it. Or even easier: If you know you aren't going to use them and view them as a liability, there are lot of equivalent models with more traditional layouts. If you like this footprint but hate the buttons, then check out the T13. The naming convention holds for their other ones as well, so if you'd like a smaller version, check out the S13 rather than the S16. They are all on sale through the weekend if you're curious. Thanks for watching!
I think it lasts through this weekend, but I get your stance on trying in-person at CEO. Best of luck getting the perfect controller for you at the best price. And have fun at CEO!
@@AquaTwist_ Honestly, they're pretty much ALWAYS on sale. The price will differ a bit, but I've never seen them actually selling for anywhere near the non-sale price.
My wallet is telling me I don't need another Haute42 controller since I already have both a T16 and a G16... and my mind is saying, "ah, but you don't have *this* version of the T16." I just have to keep reminding myself that payday isn't until next Friday. 😆
lol, true. Maybe save for the R16 since that is a bit more different than what you already have? But if you absolutely need to grab something, I do think the P12, S series, and G series models are also on sale. They are a bit smaller than what you saw here (and I appreciate a bit bigger footprint, but I know a lot really like the smaller ones). Regardless! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! Have a good night!
Tekken Rage Arts are all a single input, there is no motion or timing that would benefit from extra keys. I love your videos but that comment sounds like you didn't know how that works.
Just remapping and putting it in a spot that may be better suited for a user's hand position was what I was thinking, but I'll stay in my lane when it comes to Tekken, lol. Thanks for the feedback and watching all the same!
Thank you for always pushing quality content.
Thanks for the nice comment! I really appreciate that!
Thank you for doing this， I hope you enjoy T16-Crystal！
Hey, thanks for helping make controllers nice/affordable to encourage more people to join the FGC!
Great vid as usual! I have been loving my T16, but maybe it's time I upgrade and hand my old one down to a friend to get them into the FGC forreal!
Nothing like a good bribe to force a buddy into the scene, lol! Come for the new controller, stay for the righteous FGC vibes. Thanks for watching!
Genuinely one of the best changes they've made to the two new lines of products (t series refresh, and the M+) is ditching the awkward halfway house of the 13 button options, and just offering a clean 12 button layout. I've enjoyed my M12 + enough to want to have one with art, so now I have a T12 alongside my Mpress and other various options. I get newer people are attracted to more buttons, but I vastly prefer the traditional layout.
Yeah, it's good on them to have options: lots of buttons and then something more traditional, best of both worlds. Thanks for watching and weighing in!
I have to be honest, I really like the 13 button options! They don't feel as cluttered as the 16 button ones do to me, but they're still great for genres other than fighting games (I use it for shmups as well). Still, I get why they'd want to consolidate around more popular options.
All 30 mm button layout 😮
This thing looks great
Yeah, I'm a bit partial to the slightly bigger buttons like arcade sticks of old, so it's cool to have this as an option for people who feel similarly. Thanks for watching, dude! Appreciate ya!
Thanks, exactly what I needed and with no bloat.
Great, I'm glad it was helpful! (I try to respect a viewer's time in most of my vids so I cut them down pretty substantially.) Thanks for watching!
Just purchased this after seeing your review! I was the one who asked u in Reddit PMs about those Pico FightBox models a few days ago Thanks for all you do!
lol, small world! Thanks for watching, dude!
Crystal Pepsi, Crystal Gravy, Crystal Snail. All that was missing from my childhood was Van Halen. Keep up the great work!
🎶🎵"Right now!" (didn't want a copyright flag so had to do without) Thanks for watching, dude!
@@HushMySweet1 I figured 😉
Hi hush, where can i get that dongle? At 30 dolar did you say, right?
@geraldymartenunez503 The Magic Boots? A few places, but Amazon might be the easiest. Around $35 USD last I saw.
www.amazon.com/Gam3Gear-Mayflash-MagicBoots-Converter-PlayStation-4/dp/B01N66G4HE/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
Loved the video, Hush! That foam pad for the bottom looked really clean.
Thanks, Lendin! Can't go wrong with those crystal corners. If you need one for yourself, I grabbed it from a nice etsy shop called DiscoDigital for a reasonable price. Thanks for watching!
I already have a custom leverless but this is tempting 😊
You can never have too many... (what I tell myself anyway) Thanks for watching/commenting, dude!
Im glad Cosmox decided to offer the clear switches by themselves, in case you wanted to upgrade your board to the "crystal' version. Thanks for the videos!
Yeah, I completely agree with that! And if you're interested in other switch options, I'll let you know what I think of some of their other switches soon enough. Thank you for watching/commenting!
Looking forward to seeing your review of those wind engines. Maybe side by side with the lofrees theyre cloning?
Stay tuned! I've got a couple others first, but it's definitely on my calendar. Thanks for watching!
My last comment got eaten (pretty sure why) but I just wanted to say that for people who own older versions of this board, they offer the crystal switches by themselves. I replaced the reds on my older T13 and the light distribution is much more even, and it's nice to have switches without any color so they blend better with more types of artwork.
I don't see anything in the "held for review" section, but maybe your first comment will come through eventually. Sometimes if a user hasn't watched much before commenting, it gets flagged and held in limbo or something. IDK how it all works TBH. But regardless, you're right about the transparent switches when it comes to different art styles. It opens a lot more doors aesthetically. Thanks for watching!
@@HushMySweet1 Sometimes when I mention the name of the store where something is available it just... doesn't go through. No idea why, but this isn't the first time it's happened to me!
Either way, easy enough to figure out where the switches are sold.
Thanks for covering all these controllers! Always fun to see what new stuff is out there. Next one I'm really interested in is the LightFox from Speedy Labs. I've got his Sound Voltex controller and it's a delight to use.
I have that controller and plan on a video of it in July! Just lots of projects and I'm slower than I'd like to be with my editing. But in the meantime I'll say that I had a lot of fun with the theming of it, lol. (and I also have a Sound Voltex Vividwave machine in my basement, so kindred spirits you and I!)
Do you mind linking where u got the foam pad?
I recently ordered the R16 and would love to have one for it because as much as I love acrylic its really slippery ^^'
DiscoDigitalShop - www.etsy.com/shop/DiscoDigitalShop?ref=yr_purchases#items Hope that helps, thanks for watching!
Thanks I grabbed one for $63!
🤑 Nice! I hope you dig it!
best fight stick/leverless reviews are here quote me
Haute42 wares are crazy good value propositions. Tons of quality for lower price points.
oh man, I JUST bought the OG t16. Love it, though I would have gone for this model.
I hate it when that happens! The silver lining is that they are fairly similar, so I hope you dig your new controller all the same! Thanks for watching, dude!
@@HushMySweet1 Thanks dude. I'm fine with the key caps for now, but the switches on the crystal seem nice. Guess I'll have to keep an eye out for a guide on switches 👀
Indeed you will! I've got some switch stuff coming down the pipe. Aliexpress has both 20-packs of the Crystals you saw in this video and their newer Wind Engine variety for around ~$15. I'll try to demo some here soon so you can have some context to inform your buying decisions. Thanks for the support!
Hey man. I was tempted to go for this model but my main in sf6 is zangief and I’m not sure if I’ll be able to do slides for SPD with the raised buttons. I saw you demoed that on your M16 video. Did you test that on this one? Sorry for the specific question but I haven’t been able to find an answer on this lol.
Hey! Yeah, this one has caps that extend ~4 mm above the top plexi, so the slides are passable and fairly similar to a lot of other default all-button options. So not the worst, but not its best feature either. But the caps are smooth, even on the edges, so that helps. Still, you'll like have to get a feel for the pressure and speed to do clean slides every single time. Easiest slide experience I have had was a Slab MX where I changed out the full size switches to lower stem variants. Hope that helps and thanks for watching!
@@HushMySweet1 thanks for the reply man! I think the Slab MX is a bit out of my budget but this haute models are extremely tempting to me. I’ve been curious about a leverless for quite some time now and the
@@rod_2109 Stay tuned. I have a vid I'm finishing up hopefully in the next day or so and it may speak to you.
Any plans for a R16 review? Would love to hear your thoughts!
They do look pretty cool. Maybe since there's some interest, I'll see if I can order one. I've got a slew of other controllers and products to work through first, so it may be a hot minute. Thanks for watching/commenting!
There hush my sweet, will be covering the nacon daiju or the victrix pro fs?
I don't have them on my to-do video list currently, but if there is sufficient interest from subs, then I try to get the models people ask about. I can't promise anything, but which are you more interested in seeing covered? And if I did get one, is there some specific element of the controller you want me make sure I address?
@HushMySweet1 the nacon daiju I'd like to see covered more. Not only 1 do I like it better than the pro but 2 while I do like it's design I feel like covering it's over all customization and weight would be my primary focus and the slip pads be the secondary
@@brycerathsack7885 Are you aware of a good source for people from the US to get them? I'm seeing €249.90 (on sale) plus EU shipping on their website for the PlayStation version. Then ebay has a couple NIB versions that could work, but again, over $300 USD. Where did you get yours?
@HushMySweet1 I get mine from gamestop on thier website since I still have my credit card from over 12 years ago from them
Crystal Pepsi logo 😄! Great review, give him an M series plus so he can review it! Wanna see how big those things are.
Stay tuned. 👀 Thanks for watching, dude!
the usbc port on my t16 died after about two months of use, it sucks I have to but I guess I'll just get this as a replacement cause I find the layout with the all 30mm buttons layout super comfortable and there doesn't seem to be any other options for that at the same price point
Hmmm, I hate to hear that. I'm hoping that your experience is an anomaly and doesn't trend toward the rule. I haven't had issues with any of mine (but I don't play on one single controller all the time so I'm sure they've got a lot fewer hours than yours), so I'm hoping your situation is more of a one-off. Haute42 has a pretty active discord, so it might be worth reaching out there to let them know the situation to see if they can facilitate a good solution. Goodwill goes a long way in the FGC so I'm hoping they would like to see you get it resolved. Still, let us know if you pull the trigger on a new one and how this next one works for you. And thank you for watching!
@@HushMySweet1 I managed to fix it by bending the port back and hopefully it's all good now, ended up buying the crystal anyway because it's so cheap and it can't hurt to have a spare for when people come round to play
@@yowamushi6666 Glad you got it sorted!
Putting in a request for a Tikitaka review if you can get one (especially the split box layout)!
In talks with them now, so I'll see what I can do!
@@HushMySweet1 Awesome!
What are the dimensions you use when printing art. I use 296*196 millimeters in gimp with the template from the haute 42 server but when I turn it into a pdf after making it an image and print it. It is slightly bigger than my t16 crystal. I've used both A3 and Legal paper and still ran into issues
I'm not overly familiar with Gimp, but 1) I would first double-check the size. Compare it to the .psd layout available on Focus Attack. Probably the exact same, but I would want to confirm. 2) Then, look at the print options in your program. See if it allows you to print to scale, or alternatively uncheck the aspect ratio box to play with the settings there. ...That would be where I would start. Good luck and I hope you get it figured out! Thanks for watching.
Is the dongle you showed for ps5 compatibility the same as an fgc wingman but cheaper?
That one is a Mayflash MagicBoots v1.1 for Playstation. If you want Xbox compatibility you'd need something different. So, it functions similarly to the Wingman, but not quite the same.
Can it be program a dash/back dash button instead of double tap?
You can do things like that with GP2040-CE, but unless it's a function within the game (like Guilty Gear or something with an established dash macro) you're getting into custom macro territory.
gp2040-ce.info/web-configurator/menu-pages/macros
You've got to know some programming and it can get complicated quickly. Check out an old video I did regarding custom macros. It's not legal and the vid was more of a call to awareness so we could collectively try to stop this, but there's little to stop people from macro'ing DPs, Scoops, and even full combos if they know what they are doing. th-cam.com/video/mu5L7tl6Orc/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=HushMySweet
can you remap the direction input?
You can change everything! Lots of customization options. Check this out for more info! Thanks for watching. gp2040-ce.info/web-configurator/menu-pages/settings
Does this work with ps4 mode on the ps5(with updated firmware) without the 30$ dongle? I'm looking to get one to play ps4 games on my ps5
I think you'd need the PS4 keys to make that work. Otherwise it would be subject to the 8-minute timeout issue if memory serves.
@@HushMySweet1 thank you for letting me know!
I need that foampad
Check out DiscoDigitalShop on etsy and they can print you up one! They've also got most all the sizes for each type of Haute42 controller. Thanks for watching!
I wanna buy either this or razer or hitbox what is your opinion?
See my reply on your other comment. Good luck in Tekken 8!
I keep hearing the Hautes are great leverless controllers, but I’m worried about accidentally pressing those extra buttons on the top/bottom
So you can change button functions with GP2040-CE firmware, so just remap it to something else or disable it. Or even easier: If you know you aren't going to use them and view them as a liability, there are lot of equivalent models with more traditional layouts. If you like this footprint but hate the buttons, then check out the T13. The naming convention holds for their other ones as well, so if you'd like a smaller version, check out the S13 rather than the S16. They are all on sale through the weekend if you're curious. Thanks for watching!
@@HushMySweet1 when does the sale end? I’m going to CEO so I might wait and see what they have there for options. Plus I can try them out in-person.
I think it lasts through this weekend, but I get your stance on trying in-person at CEO. Best of luck getting the perfect controller for you at the best price. And have fun at CEO!
@@AquaTwist_ Honestly, they're pretty much ALWAYS on sale. The price will differ a bit, but I've never seen them actually selling for anywhere near the non-sale price.
@sethsez lol, that's probably true. If you miss a deal, there's usually another one on the horizon.
T16 vs M16?
I prefer the T16 since the footprint is a bit bigger and I get to put some art in it.
That crystal gravy deeply unsettled me.
The commercial goes off the rails the longer it goes on, too. Thanks for watching my content, unsettling or not!
Okay fine i purchased it 😅
I didn't have to twist your arm too hard I hope, lol. Hopefully you enjoy your new controller when it arrives. And thanks for watching, dude!
My wallet is telling me I don't need another Haute42 controller since I already have both a T16 and a G16... and my mind is saying, "ah, but you don't have *this* version of the T16." I just have to keep reminding myself that payday isn't until next Friday. 😆
lol, true. Maybe save for the R16 since that is a bit more different than what you already have? But if you absolutely need to grab something, I do think the P12, S series, and G series models are also on sale. They are a bit smaller than what you saw here (and I appreciate a bit bigger footprint, but I know a lot really like the smaller ones). Regardless! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! Have a good night!
Tekken Rage Arts are all a single input, there is no motion or timing that would benefit from extra keys.
I love your videos but that comment sounds like you didn't know how that works.
Just remapping and putting it in a spot that may be better suited for a user's hand position was what I was thinking, but I'll stay in my lane when it comes to Tekken, lol. Thanks for the feedback and watching all the same!