What has happened to the wisdom of the Indian mind? | J. Krishnamurti
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- Madras 1982 - Question #1 from Question & Answer Meeting #2
'The Indian mind for centuries has probed into the nature of the self and cosmos, but is now materialistic. What has happened to the ancient wisdom of the mind?'
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"The computers are taking over the world" he saw it in 1982 long time before even the internet existed. He wasn't only a spiritual wise man but a really smart one. Lovely.
There has been research going on large scale. You could find computer scientists talking about the AI from the 70s.
@@KritishBhattarai-yk4il yes but the recent advancements of ai have not been expected by anyone.
He already had talks with scientists he already k know what's going on
What J.K telling is true, I have been recently moved to Europe. What I observe here in my work everyone has to own and decide by themselves in general, you can consult with collogues or boss but no one is going to decide for yourself. Whereas my observation in India, is mostly whatever the parent, teacher, boss tells you follow it so the brain is always looking for instruction from others to work and for taking decision.
There is nothing new in respected JK's statements, not only on this aspect but on many. You please read Bhagavad Gita last chapter (18th chapter). Full freedom given to each and every individual to decide on their own even on our ancient philosophies ! Also pl read and contemplate on its various thoughts. Our ancient wisdom stresses Q & A method and not to blindly accept anything without reasoning. No compulsion on anything and thrusting. If people misunderstand, we cannot blame the scriptures. In fact, after foreign invasion only, all these things slowly disappeared. Apart from day-to-day life, even you can find management lessons, with fair and impartial attitude, in Bhagavad Gita. Whenever you read, each time it reveals new facets of truth and knowledge. It is rather strange that while westerners slowly started realising the greatness, universal appeal and vision of Bhagavad Gita, which are applicable for ever, our own people are reluctant to dive deeply into the philosophies of Bhagavad Gita with open-mindedness, by still clinging to their pre-conceived notions ! Regards. V. GIRIPRASAD (68)
@@vgiriprasad7212 actually this has been disappearing since the last 800 years or so, indians today are not as raw as they used to be in the time of buddha or krishna.
All the comments aside, in India people's minds are trained to the situation of "the cup is full" and so they cannot percieve the truth. The cause is mainly strong religious beliefs and social media, the stories of epics and scriptures, the holy books although helps someone to how to live a life, but in reality are taking the concept of free will and strength to analyse, we as a society are becoming more and more dependent on religion and it's a sad thing. I have seen Superconsciousness and beliefs turn into perception there, even if u create a God with specific features and believe that he she it is real strongly enough u might see that in actuality from your third eye. It's a horrible reality of religion.
@@vgiriprasad7212 Scriptures were written by very few people (percentage). Societies did not follow them. Even Arjun did not understand much. Scriptures indicate that there were knowledgeable people; but, does not mean that it is applicable to the masses.
Absolutely brother, that's true
this man is wise and filled with love. i wish that people will listen and feel.
Very true, living among both western and indian culture, this is something i have always felt and observed.
very true
It's all the same nowadays all around the world
It's all materialistic world each and every one of us wants everything at any cost.
I am Indian and what K is saying is right. This is how my mind is
What a being. Clarity and insights of Krishnamurthy overwhelms
Outstanding clairvoyance, the man saw what was coming , the disorder , the Brahminical hegemony seeped into right winged politics, the divisiveness in which our communities revel , our subservience to authoritarian regimes , our insincerity in following the scriptures , the crisis has only exacerbated since this ahead of time lecture
31:03 - I hardy heard J.K. talk so sincere and humble like that ! Wow !
If we see what we are, learn from it & change. We become both Guru & Disciple
Profound wisdom that has been laid out so humbly
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What he speaks are facts.
I ask the same question sir😔
It is Sad to hear it, but what you are saying is all so so true
Unbiased
Great! I is time when we can correct ourselves from the mistake of past.
What a riveting and courageous argument and analysis … 🙏🙏🤩🤩
Thank you for uploading
Thank you very much. Terima kasih.
undeniably great philosopher and lovable.
He said he is not a philosopher
What is amazing is K's understanding that the computers will take over the world and rewire the brain of future generations
Powerful
Nice J K 👌👌
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Oh what he says each one for himself only what a fact!
12:23 that dude really interested in the camera lol
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Be original and creative, Being a copycat is boring and secondhand
Is not eulogizing creativity is what anybody does as mostly mundane ritual?
Is not use of English (which you did not create obviously) secondhandy copycating and boring?
Then what shit you talking about?
How do you know you're original and creative
I agree, Jiddu has great words of wisdom. Acts ?
To speak before the world is to act, courageously and powerfully. The power of truth, in action.
Awakening people is the act. These words help people like me get an insight of real sense of life.I would have been a competitive and jealous person like I was before. Still learning from great beings like him...
The greatest Act of J.K is to reach out his wisdom and compassion to millions of humans even after he is gone physically
The teacher has gone but the teaching is ever alive 🙏
to answer the question; Ideological Subversion.
Yes, but Let's not forget the responsibility of ourselves, who have rendered our minds susceptible to ideological subversion.
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Perhaps rebalancing is happening in India. Did they not neglect the material aspects of live ?
If we keenly observe our past ,we can find traces of our engagement with secular aspects of life side by side the spiritual aspects but at one point our history, the emphasis shifted and asceticism took over our lives shifting our minds to other-worldly affairs,which led to total negligence of material side of life. We have have not yet totally recovered from the after-effects. In fact ,what we are witnessing now is a sort of movement to the other extreme of materialism as an effort to compensate the lost time like the way a pendulum moves to the other extreme. We are ,therefore ,witnessing so much of emphasis on material development, in exclusion to everything else. In the process , our past culture and the spirit of it's critical self- examination in the light of our actual spiritual heritage ,not the outward religious aspects, superstition etc is lost.
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Yes. We can't completely neglect the Yin and live only with the Yang or vice versa.
Matter and Mind, Internal and External, Self and The World and so on.
There has to be a synthesis between these two elements. A symbiotic relationship, a relationship which involves cooperation, coexistence between these active and passive forces.
To live in harmony and balance and to make progress with sustainability.
Childish view you have probably you not know
what does he mean by by 3 to 5 thousand years of culture wiped out overnight (24:21). what does he mean by that
Vedic culture in which people consciousness level is very high
Disheartening to listen to this. The complaint is that they are tolerant, have diverse and conflicting views, carry lofty ideas of transcending the suffering of life and the Upanishads etc are complained about. The scriptures in India are just suggestions and pointers (as K calls himself), they are not commandments violating which one is threatened to rot in hell for eternity. India must take pride in itself, the biggest beauty is they admit the limits of their knowledge and revere sages without any ugly bigotry and following blindly. Krishnamurti is a gem to cherish for the whole humanity but putting donkeys and stallions in the same stable is abominable.
One of the most rotted mind is indian mind
it´s not true that we only use a small part of the brain. The neuroscience says that the brains it´s used completed, by a lot of processes.
Yes but are we aware of that?
Whatever he is telling its perfectly true and much more truer nowadays in the age of the Google Facebook WhatsApp etc etc where most of us are just downloading the knowledge from the cloud and seeing and doing what not.
Brother we do not use brain but brain uses us 😅
I recalled that. However in this context I think he was referring to the division and inattention in the brain. Sure, the brain is being used, but it's mostly cluttered, there is no emptiness and space left for deep observation. The brain is pre-occupied so we aren't really making use of it although it is still being used for something.
If ur daydreaming, the brain is still under usage but it's not really actively used for anything, yet it is still filled with processes, do you see what we're getting at?
Why he speaks only english
Because he was mostly educated in the west and didn't keep up with his own language I think
Because he was “sent to UK (by Annie Besant & Led Better the Theosophical society leaders) a very early age from Chennai”. He grew up in UK all his life studying and traveling around the world. In 1929 (he was just an young adult and had British Accent) he gave a talk in New York, USA.
So not only you can understand.