Observe your fear | Krishnamurti
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What he's saying is actually a Tibetan Buddhism technique of the Nyingma lineage in the Dzogchen teachings called the inner mind ruushen. This technique is a preliminary to the non meditation state.
Only difference is that Tibetans say that first there are thoughts and stories woven around that feeling sensation of fear. Strip them one by one . Then when it stands almost naked with only the underwear on , strip that too. The name 'fear' is the underwear its wearing. Once you remove that, see where is the sensation happening? It seems to be happening somewhere in the gut. Now be with that raw sensation which has been stripped of all stories and labels. The sensation vanishes without the support of the stories and labels. Like this, one can apply this technique to any feeling sensation. But it needs practise. Its very powerful too. Hope it helps
Thank you for sharing this
It does help! I love krishnamurti but sometimes I cannot decipher what the hell he is saying so thank you! I’m going to look this up further
Oh wow thanks I pretty much thought the same in my own words while watching the video. Thanks for sharing I love learning!
very powerful. this is truly insightful what you'be shared... if u don't mind, i'd like to add that it's a practice. no? because the feeling in the gut (for me at least) just didn't dissolve. it's gradually dissipating. through burping and released tension.
We are thankful for this beautiful revelation 🌻
He so badly wanted to help his fellow humans and was always so focused about the audience knowing that they themselves hold the key to freedom from suffering. Find out for yourself. ❤🙏
I KNOW RIGHT! He's such a pure person and OFC they messed him up.
Yes, he did.
This is correct 🩵
The biggest false awakening traps are: Higher self, Ascension road, ascended Masters realm, Kundalini, Chakras. All of them total Trap into 8th sphere of Lower Astral Underworld. By that surrending the Energies to the Matrix and demiurge. 💙✊🏽💎
The difference between waking in a dream and really waking up.
Fear of loneliness is scarier than the actual loneliness in reality!
Exactly…. I always feared so much of losing my parents. My father passed away 3 years ago. It was painful but was tolerable. The imagination (fear) of losing them was absolutely not tolerable. Tears still come when I remember him but it’s all fine. Nothing to tear me off. Life goes on. ❤
Every fear is scarier than reality
Actual loneliness isn’t scary, it’s despairing
Once you experienced, there's nothing.
@@samerehnavadeh7068 hey, your comment comforted me so. I have this exact same constant fear, so thank you.
and I hope you've come to a place of great healing. all the best to you, and to your father!
Excellent treatise on fear. I am 93 and was fortunate to have heard him live when I was 13 in Bombay.
This same result is achievable through Yoga Pranayama which I did later in my life. The technique is to slowly develop how to put distance between thoughts coming to you. Even a fraction of a second helps. Slowly you distance from the thought itself and you come back with a lot of positive energy.
Just my thoughts and experience.
Thank you.
OH so fortunate you were able to see him then,, so great. so wonderful
Animals have fear. And they don’t know the word.
Fear is in every living being.
Being aware of our feelings and thoughts makes the difference
I agree, I express exactly that at times when listening to JK. Thought doesn't seem to create suffering, but it may exacerbate it.
Exactly
Do animals have fear? Or do you look at the way they are behaving and you recognize this as fear?
@@TASKGAMER123 That raises an interesting point that we may be prescribing human emotions to animals. Many prey animals may not actually be afraid of predators, but simply recognize that the predators are capable and intent on overpowering them
Yes animals do have fear that's what it looks like to us but that is their survival instinct which all living beings have.
This sensation is an anxiety somewhere in the brain stuck from a trauma from the past; and we put a scenario from outside on it but in fact it’s the past that we project into the people, world, project, everything
I don't know if anyone shares my feelings, but I find him incredibly brave and divine. He tries to awaken our deepest souls and free us from the constraints of worldly teachings. This is truly wonderful. He understands human suffering, and each of his speeches lights up my heart and heals me.
Thanks
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Fear is a liar. Full stop.
Bless Krishnamurti.
I think the feeling of sensation which is named as fear can be neglected or overcome while being in the present not worrying about past and future... Being in the present needs consciousness! Consciously in the present becomes well spent past and well built future. Just my understanding. Thank you ✨✨
It is wild to think how much power we give words.
The biggest false awakening traps are: Higher self, Ascension road, ascended Masters realm, Kundalini, Chakras. All of them total Trap into 8th sphere of Lower Astral Underworld. By that surrending the Energies to the Matrix and demiurge. 💙✊🏽💎
His teaching are deep, each one of us is going to go into it at a different depth. It is hard to put into words or provide an answer for someone, but he is doing his best to at least give some concept for us to try hard, go within and find an answer for ourselves, develop our own understanding.
very well said
Fear is a feeling that we are born with to protect life. This means that we are actually afraid of death, if we manage not to be afraid of death then we are no longer afraid
Death is a mental (psychological) concept however
Carefully Observe your fear “ as if it is a person present in your space “ just inward look at your fear… and tell fear “ fear you have to move out because my friend faith is permanently moving in….
I love this - I’m going to say this, thank you
No.. just wait for the sensation to leave you… don’t label and get caught 😂
@@Jennifurdawn you are welcome Jenni… wherever you are in this world, whatever you are going through…. Remember with time and self love , it WILL get better… sending you loads of love
The last 2 seconds were heartbreaking.
I do that often and I have come to a conclusion that we all live in a world of tremendous fear in every sphere of life and getting over that is true enlightenment.
DON'T CONCLUDE ANYTHING, KEEP ON LEARNING IT'S AN ENDLESS JOURNEY, MIGHT TAKE YOU BEYOND MIND
One of the greatest philosophers lived on the planet
He is not talking philosophy it’s reality and existential
Thanks, I understood the difference. Get prepared and meet the challenge, do in the moment what needs to be done, deal with every situation as it erupts, rather than imagining about it. 👍
Well said, there are umpteen example one can find in one's life that much of what we feared at somepoint in time didnt event come to the fruition. But fear consumed you a lot.
This is the first time I have encountered Krishnamurti, thank you x
I remember the advaita teachings of Dr Jean Klein...he once pointed out: fear is the created illusion that begins to live while naming it...😊
Not all fear is/ was a burden. It was a survival instinct. Fear of the tiger, fear of the man who wanted to rob our food or kill us, all of which threatened our survival. Surely it arose in us to keep us alive? 🙏❤️
Fear from the fear is worst than anything that we feel fear from. Unsderstanding this (feeling it) can set us free from this absurdal circle.
I recall in Krishnamurti’s lecture in Santa Barbara in 1977 that he was getting a little frustrated. He almost begged the audience to listen to his message.
My exact situation right now. Wow so interesting to receive this message randomly.
summary: "fear" is just a word, it is the psychological component, it is the rationalization of the event that generates the biological component in the body (the feeling) and we name that with the word "fear/frustration"
I bow to absolute Master of Life! I am so blessed to be able to see him in any form while I'm here on this planet. Thank you 🙇♀️
Thanks!
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Damn what a psychology! Explained so well. He care for us so much !!
Fantastic teaching. Everybody should find out this in themselves, the world would be a better place.
What a beautiful entity is this man who lives on right Now
I think I do understand. Since childhood, we are told there is something called “fear”. Our brain creates this category into which we put various experiences from automatic reactions like jumping away from rattlesnakes to feelings of uncertainty about the future. We are then told that we mustn’t fear, it’s “unmanly". So when we feel uncertain about the future, since we’ve put it into that category of “fear” we feel something is amiss. We shouldn’t be cowardly and fearful. But, if we just stick with the sensation, uncertainty about the future is a fact. Hopefully, without being overcome with fear, we can better deal with that uncertainty. Any way, that’s how I’m understanding what the speaker said
Looking at it from this view has really opened my mind up to healing this part of fear that keeps showing up due to words I hear. Thank you so much! Then to break it down!
We are caught up in the "what ifs" more than we are within this passing moment. More moments wasted waiting for the other shoe to drop- and when it finally does, we've suffered enough so that it does not even phase us, and then grieve for the moments that passed, wasted, instead.
Is it the word 'fear' brings the fear, or is it the feeling of 'fear' ?
The moment you name that feeling it becomes fear.
What a wonderful insight! ❤
Just what I wanted to hear!!! Much gratitude n love. Namaskaram 🤗🙏✨
Fear of not being save, nowhere to feel save in this world. Mind creating,clearing, creating, pursuing and…threatened by arrogance, ignorance, making so much noise, affraid, contraction, not able to breathe, so much violence, look at it, observe..the well known feeling remains, feeling without the word, sensation, sensation without words, forms, all the senses, wow; the I, thought - word, has struggled with this for 65 years, my goodness. So, with so much violence, ignorance, arrogance, in the seemingly outside world, go within haha and remain there without words ❤️
I love a lot to j.krishnamurti.
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Thanks for sharing videos. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
JK and all his exposes are marvellous...!
Got this video on right time
Nothing is there to be afraid of as the person that is experiencing the fear itself is non-existent.
🤯🤯🤯🔥🔥🔥
He can make the world a better place
No. You can make your world a better place by finding out. The moment you leave it to the speaker, it's finished😅!
To overcome fear, I use 2 techniques
1. Prepare for the worst and Hope for the best - Thinking technique
2. Do the thing you fear ...in small steps - Action based...most effective.
Thank you...🦋💐
experience life without judgement of knowledge
Nandrigal Iyya
Krishnamirti’s wisdom is timeless.
The very habbit of observing and separating the sensations from the words makes you aware of youself, and the big importance we usualy gave to it at that time in the past, for exemple, goes away. It becames known to you, and you give litle importance to it. In the and, fear is from unknownig ourselves. When you know, you became greater than the feeling. Its a meditative exercise.
Words get stuck in the brain. I love to speak in other languages as there is no history there ❤
Fear is not a construct, but a reaction. It is not a tangible thing. Neither is the future a tangible thing. Neither are our worries. Something which cannot be seen or touched and has not yet happened should not be reacted to in such a way.
I think this is what he means.
This is crazy. While I was meditating few weeks ago, I decided to meditate on "attention" which later leed me to "sensation" and "feeling". It turns out feeling is nothing but a label 🏷️ we slap on sensation when we explain to others. Because "we become what we think about" and "we don't know what we don't know", we can label a particular sensation wrongly because we do not have the right word to describe the sensation.
Sensation on the other hand, originates from as result of ex-periment (experience) that we conduct. When we experience something, we might feel positive, negative or neutral about the experiment.
The whole this is kinda complicated to explain. This is why I want to start my blog to share my thoughts with others.
The word "fear" was created to express a certain sensation.
So the sensation created the word and not the other way around.
The sensation exists independent of the word "fear".
Observing your Fear gives him Power. But he means absorb.
Wow this is really really good. Thank you for the clip!
Thank you to all of the divine who lead me to this moment with this wonderful and wise teacher. ❤
8:18 Wow with out the Word it's a sensation
He was so afraid we wouldn't understand.
😂😂😂
I think rather he was motivated by the compassion that his deep understanding of our confusion instilled in him to be as direct as possible. He is constantly checking and to us and our simple minds it looks of fear but it comes out of wisdom and a desire to reiterate his teaching's importance to the listener.
Listen to osho’s ashtavakra geeta with the utmost intensity to know what guru krishnamurti is conveying in detail..
I wish to see the other part of this session. means the continuing part of this video. whosoever have uploaded this, please share the next part of this🙏🏼🙇 thankyou🌸
You first experience a sensation: physical, biological events. These are often triggered by what you once perceived as dangerous experiences, whether in childhood or, for some, even in past lives. For example, for a child, being rejected by one or both parents (either continuously or even just once, if the event was significant) feels like a life-threatening danger: "Who will feed me? Who will protect me?,..."
In the present, these physical bodily sensations arise whenever you are confronted by a situation similar to, or reminiscent of, that past dangerous experience (abandonment experiences for example). Your rational mind then transforms the sensation into 'fear' again: "What will happen to me? Will I be able to handle myself? What if someone notices my 'fear'?"
When you observe the sensation (first physical event which arises) without labeling it (in full awareness and without judgment), you realize there is usually no real danger. However, your rational mind has become accustomed to adding all the labels and qualifications we define as 'fear'
Thanks sir understood again but clearly this time from my guru ❤
Feeling is just like a small sensation but the thought process makes it a big problem... The problem which doesn't exist at all.. exept in your merely thoughts🙃.
Fear doesn't exist in present,it only exists in the thoughts of tomorrow n yesterday..
And if you can grow fear through your thoughts then can't you destroy fear through opposite
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@@pramodhkumar8005 hi ❤️
Words are powerful
so powerful
Fear is a real word which comes from a real feeling. In all languages, we have certain word for defining that feeling. And in english we call it fear. Words cannot arise in void.
Thank you!
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Fear exists with out the word
Thankyou 🙌🙏
Fear for me is bigger than what I see. Even when I run in opposite directions it somehow drags me to same position. I think we get attached to situation when it stays with us for a long time and that is the most dangerous part of fear
Observe what's going on . Stop putting words .
fear of embarrassment and humiliation
I suggest an Ayahuasca Ceremony, integrating your core in connection to the whole, I'm certain it'd help with all trauma and pain
Where are you located though?
Fear is needed as well
Is there a difference between being free from fear and wanting to create a certain state within yourself, a state of well-being, even a "spiritual state", a state of higher consciousness? which includes manifesting and so on. I wonder if anyone else sees this? Does the question make any sense? I never write a comment, what do you think, please do comment.
I have limited understanding on these concepts, but hear my answer
There is a difference,
Being free from fear is being free from thoughts and left with observational presence alone(created because of unidentification)
To create a certain state - initially you may land in that observational state, but 2nd time 3rd time, your mind might be creating that state,
You are creating your own identification
The origin of this technique is from buddhism. No doubt he described well but the basic structure is slightly different. The whole concept is based on the 'Inner Silence' which can only be achieved by meditation.
😂😂 how Buddhism came into being ??
Cancer being a good example
You could say this about any sensation -- not just fear. Happiness. Boredom. Anger. And so on. This is Krishnamurti being heady -- as usual.
He was a confused man
This video ends without Completion'
MUCHAS GRACIAS
If we diclosed feeling and also not focused on feeling then their is no such FEAR word exists for us !!!
No believe is also a believe...
The word can activate the feeling.
Fear also exists even when you dont call for it. Sleepy fear.
It must be in your blood!!
My biggest enemy is my fears.
Perhaps you could vanquish their power by treating them as allies. Alex Honnold, as well as other climbers, have talked about making fear their friend.
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Fear of dying, but not fear of death.
I am fearless adamant insensitive stubborn individual
Learnt that man is a rational animal in1958 AD.I realised in 2021 MAN is an irrational animal I Was a frog in the well.
I learnt from my kitten so much got enlightened.
Our imagination fails us. We need to risk it out despite what our intellect says.
'wer are courting words' - :)
Great
Truly make sense
Having to unravel all of these references to the actual quality itself could cost many ppl decades of time just trying to unnderstand that their trap IS THEIR OWN MINDS, basically. Most unfortunate, as ppl would prefer to reinforce the mind and its fears/positions rather than to perform the heavy lifting of "looking" AT THE MIND and what it is doing. Ending fear by facing fear will be counterintuitive to most folks out there. Looking at fear IS FACING FEAR. Ppl refuse to consider this as a solution. The world must kiss their @$$*$ instead in order that they can have their fears assuaged rather than for them to choose the inward looking activity....😮
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SHIVRAAM
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Fear of loneliness .. fear of loosing my myself ...
Merci !
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Listening to j.k slowly leads the listener to dissolution.
Yes sensation itself a feeling and even though we separate it from a word we can feel that. Let me honest this video is point less I expected how to observe fear and come out from it with ease.
The mental feeds the emotions. Even if, at first, it's the emotion that creates the ideas of fear or anger ...
I'm not sure talking about "the word 'fear' " is a good thing. When one is afraid he doesn't necessarily think "I'm afraid", he/she doesn't necessarily think the WORD "fear". However there's a mental activity which is not pure emotion anymore.
Maybe replacing "word" by "mental", or "thought" would be more clear.
The word can be the definition of a feeling, but the other way around it’s possible? I personally think that we feel the necessity of nameing what we feel, think, see instead of enjoying it how it is and live in the present, the curent sensation. 😅 we have to remember that every word that we say is a general definition that we all agree about, but particularly we have to discover every sensation and define it by ourselves, for ourselves.
You got be very high in observation then you can observe all kinds of distraction will be there
Biological fear is very different from psychological fear. Correct.