Yamaha MT-10 vs BMW S1000R Review Road Test | Visordown Motorcycle Reviews
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- What do you think of the Yamaha MT-10 and the BMW S1000R and do you agree with our verdict on which is best? Full review here: 👉 bit.ly/2U9vrss
Two super-naked motorcycles using the blistering engine and frame of a flagship sports bike, both detuned from about 200hp to exactly 160hp - Yamaha's MT-10 and BMW's S1000R couldn’t be more closely matched. So which is best?
Read our full review here: bit.ly/2aA1zTM
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I tested them bouth 3 weeks ago, and for me I would go with the MT10 with out a doubt
Test rides on both, ordered S1000r.
Hi mate, I know this is an old review, but I wondered how you got on with your BMW S1000r?, did it live up to your expectations?, do you still own it? Cheers, Grant.
@@grantwedgbrow9997 I've owned mine for 5+ years and it's still awesome. Not super comfy for a tall guy, but I never get "used" to the power, handling and brakes.
Boring fela
Even at 50 I'm not old enough to own a BMW. I'll take the MT.
This review seems like you were paid by BMW and that Yamaha killed your first born child LOL.
Haha it does sound that way. Ive ridden both and think the bmw is the superior machine in pretty much every way, not that the Yammy is bad at all.
Lol
Survivalist
I think the pot may be calling the kettle black.
@@Big1_ 3 letters for you numbskull, ABS.
@@Big1_ Rubbish - Those brakes are genius - Mega power with mega control and all the while with mama ABS lookin over your shoulder - They're about as safe as big power braking can get
not detuned, RETUNED!
Exactly. It's just tuned differently.
The MT-10 actually has MORE torque then the R1. So yepp definatly not a detune.
First review I have seen where the reviewer had almost nothing good to say about the MT-10
It's almost like he's biased or something 🤔😅
Good Review. Well done. Personally I would take the Yamaha purely for the engine.
+AussieRider agrees mt-10 sounds amazing but is so damn ugly
***** Wel no not really for the sound but I like my Yamaha's although cant say for sure as I have never ridden a Beemer. On paper i would have the yamaha. But I would have to ride to be sure.
Yeah I guess that's true but for me it all about how a bike rides and feels. As I said going on engine sound alone having not ridden either of them I prefer the Yamaha. If I test ride both I will let you know which one I prefer :-)
the answer: get a tuono :P
I did just that and love it. I didn't consider the BMW as Ive had a bunch of conventional inline 4's, they have no soul. The MT10 sounds great with a decat pipe, nothing else like it.
It appears the Bmw won even before the test begun , this biased this video seemed to me.
Just to let people know that Yamaha MT-10 has better brakes than BMW S1000R.
Just search for videos testing braking capability for similar bikes from different brands and you'll notice it has the better brakes.
The main reason people think(!) Yamaha MT-10 (and other bikes) don't have better brakes, it's because people judge brakes for it's initial bite power "feeling".
But to learning it's real power, brakes need to tested under full braking tests and not be judged by "how it feels" opinions!
Just my 2 cents.
Exactly correct. Set of 70 dollar pads solve the bite issue too
It's the S1000XR which makes me laugh. Everyone who rolls up behind it thinks it's a plodder. And then you smash it through the revs with the quick shifter and it's like what the hell is that thing as it disappears.
S1000XR is a wolf in sheep's clothing
Yep, my neighbour gave me a shot of his and it's mental.
S 1000XR is the Ultimate sleeper.it will eat and shit out 95 % of bikes on the road and track.🏍🏍🏍
Just passed 12k miles on mine.. still smooth as butter. And yep, its definitely not slow
@Haris Inam Your opinion is not shared by all. I quite like the looks of both BM's.
Here in Canada, the MT-10 (FZ-10) is almost $16,000 Cdn before taxes. The crossplane engine is great but you know Yamaha has cut corners on the bike. That includes some flimsy plastic fairing pieces up front, signals and tail straight out of the generic parts bin, heavy steel exhaust, monochrome display, etc. It's a great bike, no doubt, but here at least in Canada, $16,000 pre-tax is a premium price for a premium bike. As nice as the FZ-10 is, it's not a premium bike.
I can buy a new FZ-09 (MT-09) for $9,000, spend a few thousand on mods and still be thousands ahead. Also, the S1000R starts at $15,200 Cdn, and the Speed Triple is also in that price range. Yamaha make nice bikes, but the FZ-10 is way overpriced for what it is.
holymolie in the states it’s not that expensive. That is pretty bad.
@@trewebster5884 we get robbed here in Canada dude. But having owned an FZ09. Tested every super naked, the MT10 simply isn't in the same category as the speed triple. S1000R, Tuono. Those are the Apex of the super naked class
Jace 2wheel it’s just a good bargain here in the states
this review should be called, how liked much more the S1000R than the MT10
My basic understanding of Visordown is that anything European is better than anything Japanese. This review was very balanced with 5 and a half minutes of rabid BMW fanboi-ism tail ended by 27 seconds talking about the Yamaha.
Rubbish - If youve ridden the two bikes you'd know he was spot on - Remarkably accurate review
I had both of these (albeit the BMW was gen 2), and I found the MT10 a much more exciting bike.
Comment about the brakes, they actually did a braking test in an other review and the MT-10 won by a mile in stoppage power over the bmw. It's just which review you watch and what the reviewers opinion is I guess.
Both great bikes, but I'll stick with my KTM 990sm for a bit longer. The s1000xr is a good option in a couple of years when the prices drop.
If reliability wasn't an issue, I'd go for the KTM 1290, Tuono 1100, or the S1000r. But it seems like no one can match the reliability of Japanese bikes:/
The FZ10 might not be the best one, but considering its price, performance, and reliability, I'd say it's a win overall.
Fadil Karim I agree with everything you said, my only complaint about the MT 10 is the fuel range 110 miles only before you need to look for a gas station.
Thing is, it is the best, I've owned a 1290, handles like crap at speed and regardless of what they say in the vid the BMW is all about top end, doesn't have the seamless sperad of torque of the MT or the character.
Tuono 1100 is a POS. A few notches better in design, worlds apart in terms of reliability. If you have a pretty wife who cooks and cleans and is excited to do all the things you want to do and ages gracefully are you going to go for a supermodel who does hard drugs, drinks hard, and doesn’t want to go out often because she doesn’t feel good? BMW is decently reliable. Sometimes some sensor issues but mechanics are pretty decently reliable.
Iv had 2 Aprilias and 2 ktms never had a problem with them. Dont see why some ppl fall for this illusion of poor European quality in bikes.
markmcc21 2 aprilas both had severely expensive problems once the warranty period was up. I would say Ducati, HOG, and Agusta even have better reliability. Aprila is bottom of the barrel. Everyone I know knows to dump the thing once the warranty period is done. In contrast I’ve found KTMs to be quite reliable. It’s not a reliability issue with these, it’s a factually inferior warranty offering that in many parts of the world are unacceptable. They disqualify everything other than the engine, swingarm and frame explicitly at least here in North America. They have been known to do minor things beyond that but on a discretionary basis. That doesn’t cut it in my book. Night and day difference from the coverage you get from BMW, and the Japanese manufacturers.
And in my country, BMW S1000R is actually 500 euros cheaper than the Yamaha MT-10. No dilemmas here.
In the US it's the other way around, but I'm still leaning towards the BMW.
+thepassionofthegoose The Beemer is the superior bike, no doubt. But...like he said in the video, the vibes are pretty horrible. Personally, it is a deal breaker for me. Test ride one if you can.
But he said, vibes in 6th gear below 6K RPM. So, it doesn't vibe always, does it? Have you ridden it (BMW)?
I rode the S1000XR, which is very similar, and the reviews say the same thing about it so I think it would be close enough for a fair comparison. Handled beautifully, transmission was the best I've experienced, sounds fantastic for a stock exhaust, but the vibes were simply horrible for me. Apparently it doesn't bother some, and I consider those people to be lucky.
i just bought a 2016 s1000r and absolutely no issues with vibes. zero. nada. zilch.
Yamaha would last longer and is more reliable. Also things like throttle jerkiness doesn't matter because one will get used to his/her motorcycle.
The difference in styling aesthetics matter but after a year or two, it’s not a huge considerations and they’re all good looking bikes with some slightly better. This is trumped for most people by worry-free time on the road, and low-cost longterm value not just for resale, and low-maintenance costs off warranty, but for memories on the bike. I thought Ducati (paningale) was an unreliable bike until I owned an aprila Tuono aprc. Never again.
I have an MT10 and, in my humble opinion, its a bargain. If you try, it's likely that you will buy.
No test rides from Yamaha. BMW though, you can just stop by at the dealer, pick up the bike and go for a ride.
jitterball i wish i hadn't done that that way i would have been on fz10
JBZ STFC that's not true ... I Test rode my MT10 and didn't go back to buy it for a few weeks so ... I guess it depends on the dealership
I test rode MT10. Huge mistake, bought it on the spot 🙄
I thought reviews were supposed to be unbiased? It's funny really. According to the reviewer the MT-10 is good at one thing, then he goes on to say how that translates to being a negative. But when the S1000R has a failing, he goes on to say how that is a positive. He does this repeatedly in the review. As far as I'm concerned, this is not a review, but rather a guy gushing over his favorite BMW. To anyone looking at these bikes, I'd say give both a try and see which suits your riding style and which suits your budget. In the UK the MT10 costs £1,350 less than standard S1000R. If the performance and the comfort of the MT10 are anywhere as good as most "reviewers" have described, I know where I'd put my money.
+AussieRider it's not so much what was said but how it was said. Maybe it's just me, but he came off sounding like he'd made up his mind before the comparison had started that the bmw is the better bike. But objectively looking at the stats, the MT10 matches the S1000R for power. It's more comfortable than the bmw (i.e. more relaxed ergos). It has brakes that are more than sufficient for road use. The Yamaha also comes with a lovely sounding exhaust as stock (which the reviewer in his first look video of that bike described as having a "tinny" sound... go figure). And to cap it all, is a whopping £1350 cheaper than the bmw. With the extra cash, one could equip the MT10 with Yamaha's accessory touring screen and panniers and still have change. YET, despite all that, the result of the comparison is that the S1000R is the better bike?
Exactly "as an S1000R owner" who obviously loves his bike, your opinions cannot be objective. In my humble opinion, a review (by any bike magazine) should strive to be 100% objective. Which this review was not (again my opinion). And by the way, the MT10 comes with fully adjustable suspension front and rear. Electronically adjustable suspension? Just more things to go wrong with a bike if you ask me. In the UK, the automatically adjustable suspension of the S1000R is not standard. It's a £755 option if added on it's own. Neither is the "Gear Shift Assist Pro" . On the other hand, the MT10 quickshifter (available from Yamaha) costs 200 quid. Include that to the cost of panniers and a touring screen, and you've still got over £500 to play with compared to the cost of the S1000R. One last thing, in the UK, Yamaha offers I believe a 2yr warranty. Some dealers go further and offer an extra year.
I disagree. I felt the review was well done and clear opinion expressed without this bias you accuse them of. I have no real interest in either bike, but enjoy bike vids so enjoy watching. Fanboys are always grizzling when reviews dont go the way they want, not the rest of us as we are merely interested in the result. A straight opinion after riding is all this was, and its good to see them not fluffing about with it.
+SportbikerNZ As is entirely your right to disagree. I'm no fanboy of Yamaha, if anything I lean towards BMW's bikes. Yes the reviewer gave his opinion at the end. What I found somewhat biased was his method of presenting the case for both bikes. It was clear from the first few comparative statements which bike he preferred. Like you I enjoy watching bike reviews for the fun of it. But sometimes one wants a "pure" description of how the bikes ride as well as other things such as costs, etc without the reviewer tainting/painting things to reflect his personal preferences (one such example was where he asks "who buys super naked just for commuting"... err, I do...). I made my original comment simply because his review did not seem to me to be a fair comparison of both bikes. It's probably why Visor Down felt the need to tack on the comments of the second chap as a second opinion - something I haven't noticed very often from them.
The reviewer is summing up after have ridden and compared the two bikes. He would obviously have already formed an opinion before completing the video. It's not a display of bias unless he had that opinion before riding the bikes.
You rode through streatham and came out alive. Well done.
MT-10 super easy and cheap to lower the bike as low as 27" inseam (2" clearance for speed bumps)
Enough years has gone by that I've now actually owned both these bikes, and it's really disappointing how wrong most of these reviews are. Forget what these say, the fact is the mt10 will clutch up wheelie in 4th for fun, the bmw will struggle to do the same in 3rd. That's a big difference on these hooligan bikes the mt10 is head and shoulders above the bmw in terms of engine. I was shocked to find this when i bought the bmw and was quite disappointed with the engine when i was expecting it to behave like the mt10. The rest of the bike the bmw wins.
Allright, BMW has your preference. Now let's talk prices shall we? Ow dear...Thats a big lose for the BMW. Both great bikes! Best bang for buck? MT10.
GSX-1000 $10,500
MT-10 $13000
S1000R $14000
I wonder why.
Ide have any and currently run
GSX-S1000 with HyperPro
Tail of the Dragon 🐉 local
318 turns in 11.6 miles
No side roads n they blow it off.
Yamaha just for reliability and cheaper to maintain
Enjoy that 29 mpg.
mt10 for me. but my brand new vmax is already on its way to my house
23,000 Smiles on my 2015 S1kr NOT ONE ISSUE! GREAT BIKE ..Im sure the Yamy is a hoot tho
I've argued at length about these god damned jerky throttles. So many people write off those of us that complain about jerky throttles as "you're just not used to all the torque!" Bullshit. Bikes like the S1000R are proof that high horsepower and high torque have absolutely nothing to do with poor throttle mapping. Having 160hp is meaningless if you can't meter it. I want the bike to tip my arms off when I want it to rip my arms off. There's other times where I simply want to make it into work.
Not going to mention the price difference? Funny about that...
+AussieRider It's $1350. Not sure what options you are talking about as the mt10 doesn't have any. The s1000r does though. Not bashing the s1000r but the price difference is significant in all markets and it's stupid not to include it in the COMPARISON.
All of those items are unnecessary and just add to the cost. BMW is overpriced as usual. Are you going to respond to every post on here? FFS
It's the first honest review that I watch regarding the MT-10. The others are clearly bias. If someone goes against this review it's only because has never ridden the MT-10, owns one, is a yamaha fan or has ridden the MT-10 but has never ridden other "super naked" bikes. I was in line to buy one until I tried it.
Wait, did you just discredit the opinion of people who own the bike?
+Marksman2oo7 There are people that have no problems pointing out issues with the products they own, I'm like that, I can point out issues on pretty much everything I own/do, but there are people whose opinion is bias because they want to defend their purchase as if they were defending themselves. That's the majority of riders. So, do I discredit owners opinions? depends on the owner and on what's being discussed but if you only have positive things to say...I doubt it. But if I want to know something specific about a bike I usually try to aks to several owners of course. If I want to compare 2 bikes...That's another story! Regarding the MT-10, if the hype was not so big, supported by the reviews I would probably not feel so disappointed after riding it. I still like the bike though, it's not just as a beast and refined as the bias reviews stated. Of course if I owned one I would enjoy it but I'm sure I would not hide its "flaws" unless I was selling the bike :)
Great review. I watched a lot before buying my S1000r in this one is amongst the best
Reliability of the BMW would always be at the back of my mind.. The mt10's looks havnt grown on me, so probably would be looking elsewhere tbh
speed triple?
Mudux Speed triple is a hell of a bike.. This sector is so competitive..
So much Yammy pain in the comments, haha! Blame your bike choice, not the video!!
s1000R clear winner but MT-10 still a nice bike
Owned both , the Bwm is very good but very boring , the Mt-10 sp is so much fun to ride !
BMW are more expensive and more likely to need expensive repairs
price difference?
Im watching this as my friend can’t seem to stop raging about the s1000r. Won’t even look at other streetfighter like the tuono or the streetfighter v4s
I test rode both of these bikes several times and came to the same conclusion: the s1000r has a better engine, brakes, and warranty and though hot doesn't overheat in traffic; its simply a better bike that also gets better gas mileage as a bonus.
drag race please 2 bikes
I'd love the BMW but reliability wise, the Yamaha probably is the better bet. Still torn as to what the next bike will be (I have 3!)
Thanks for the test, bought a secondhand S1000R because of the smoother ride. Pitty that the bmw doesn’t have the crossplane engine.
In VIETNAM. MT10 is cheaper than S1000R ~$10,000. BMW prices in VIETNAM so crazy.
These bikes cost the same money (in Canada, anyway) and the BMW comes with heated grips, and full brembo brakes as standard. How did Yamaha think they could charge the same for a lesser specced bike?
I love Yamaha and I love the R1 (traded my 07 against the S1KR), but it's not worth the same money, IMO.
I just picked up a 2017 S1000R and other than not having an adjustable clutch lever and having soft springs (which is more a "me" problem than an "it" problem) it's almost perfect
Everyone falls in love with the MT10 engine (and I feel the Tuono's as well) and suddenly see the bike through rose tinted glasses.
Great review, IMO.
Depends where you live I suppose. Here in NL the 'base model' S1000R is 17150 euro, whilst the MT10 is 15999.
You can get brembo GP4 RS monobloc brembos (including pads) for 572 euro, and oxford heated grips for around 150. That means that an MT10 with brembos and heated grips is still a good 472 euro cheaper. You can get a powercommander + dyno tune for that money, and I am sure it will then outperform the BMW.
My point being, the situation that they are identical in price might be in your country, but not in every country. It is definitely a trade-off that you have to make wherever you live.
Also, a few reviewers have noted that the stopping distance of the MT10 is actually better than the S1000R. Just because it has 'brembo' stamped on the side, doesn't automatically mean it is better. I do think a lot of reviewers mistake 'initial bite' with brake performance, it is not the same. I personally do prefer a stronger initial bite, but some people dont.
Honestly the MT10 is not 'lesser bike', it is merely a matter of preference. Whether you pick one or the other I am sure you'd be happy regardless.
hello just went to my dealer to check an s1000r 2023 to replace an mt10 and it vibrates a lot the tank and handle bars. also idling was at 1200rpm oscillating to 1250 not sure if this is normal. my mt10 is smooth and is not new. expected more from bmw. is this normal?
I've ridden both back to back and the funny thing is, theories aside, MT10 was so characterful and tons of more fun to ride. BMW just lacked the wow factor and was a bit vanilla. 😀
I had my FZ-10 tuned by 2Wheel Dyno works, added some block off plates and threw on a Pipe Werx exhaust. That twitchy throttle response has disappeared entirely. When that BMW needs any work done, you will have wished you bought the Yamaha.
As an S10000XR owner, I recommend you switch to either Road, Rain or Dynamic for a more controlled throttle response ;)
OMG they are making a 10,000 cc motorcycle now?? Where have I been? LOL
I have a 2016 MT10 with 50k kms. The bike rides and feels semi new. I am still grinning after my ride of 350 km each way, WHAT an engine and ride. BMW is of no interest to me TERRIBLE service prices. Yamaha 4 ever!
I'd take the BMW...
If there wasn't a little thing called a Tuono 1100 or superdukeR
Tuono 1100 Great Sound but jerky at light throttle & hot thighs?
the tuono is the best bike to ride, I loved it. The only things against it are the fuel consumption which is the same as the MT-10 and the fact that two traffic lights are enough to to reach 104°C. But the riding quality is much more solid and racier.
Too bad the Tuono is Ugly AF
I think it looks better than the bmw, and MUCH beter than the yamaha
iTxip only because you are a aprillia fan. aprillias looks shit compared to other bikes
Why are they avoiding the Tuono V4 ? Oh yes because even the old model is better than both of these 2nd and 4th raten ahem duper nakeds 160bhp pah!
It's been a few months already and i still CAN'T look at that MT-10 without thinking: BOY, THAT THING IS FUGLY!...and people thought BMWs were weird looking
, LMAO.
TUONO 1100 all the way for me !
TUONO LOL! YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING. TUONO IS THE UGLIEST BIKE.
+THEfindmaster Pot calling the Kettle black ? LMAO.
At least the Ugly Tuono is not a half-baked product like the MT-10. 😛
I thought the same fot the first few months, now I love it
The engine of the MT 10 has much more crossplane character , the Beemer is just boring (like lots of Germans).
And please stop saying anything about vibes , you are riding a motorcycle not a Nissan Qashqai.
Give this guy an award for a fucking good review.
Aprilia tuono is still the one to buy.
The far more difficult question to answer, though, is: Which one is uglier?!! ... 😒
BMW are redesigning a refresh of the S1000R and I hope Yamaha can do the same for its childish headlight nacelle thingy. As it stands the Tuono is clearly the best looking (to my eyes) of the class and best sounding with reportedly the best handling on road and track. Too bad in Australia they are so over priced compared to say South Africa.
The reviewer didn't "dig" the Yammy groove at all but was fine with a vibbey BMW?...Personally I find the big inline-4 vibes induce hand numbness and to me that is a deal breaker. The Yammy exhaust has a chortling music sound and a sweetly smooth(!) inline-4. Let's see what BMW's reply comes up with.
Test rode both no match MT10 being a Yamaha well
Biased review haha seems ur 101 percent fan of bmw..better you review alone bmw..not comparing to others
It sounds like he hates the Yamaha MT-10. and Absolutely loves the S1000r
Great video. BMW. Refinement matters
That kettle looks awesome, where can i buy one? :)
Look at how high and far-back those PEGS are on the BMW! I simply can't fathom why these factories INSIST on making these ROAD BIKES with TRACK BIKE footpeg heights. There's no REASON for it... I have an older 1200 Bandit that's modified for High Sport... but the footpegs are stock (low and forward)... and never ONCE have I scraped them down, even on the track... and I can tour that same bike cross country (have twice).
* better
Got my s1000r 3 weeks ago. Already looking at the double R.
The MT10 is in need of a good tune more so than other new bikes, the choppy throttle is easy to cure and @ 8000 RPM it is restricted to 60% opening so that is why it didn't seem to have as much top end.
Due to the expense of owning a bmw, no f ing way! The s1000r has absolutely no soul or personality. Yes there are some compromises to make with the mt10 but I just picked up a blue '18 mt10 with 1100mi for $9700. Hard to beat that deal.
This is one awful review, and completely biased!! You Brit’s clearly have no idea what your talking about: The BMW is NOT a naked bike at all, it’s far too crouched forward. If I wanted to crouch over I’d buy a super sport! A naked MUST have an upright riding position, period, or your not in the same class. The BMW is the ugliest naked EVER! You say the Yamaha is ugly.... OMG!! It’s amazing how you squids think that what other squids think is what makes a bike good looking....WRONG! It’s what a non-biker thinks....because hello, that’s 99% of who looks at your bike, hence whom you want to impress. And lastly, the engine is based on an R1!!!! Nough said!!
Excellent review. Bike shouldn’t be a hassle to ride
The Yam will spend.more time on the road and not in the workshop being fixed
A shame you guys don't speek about consumption. The concumption on the MT10 is much to high. Your mates are drinking on a terras while you are getting petrol for the third time.... No idea about the BMW's consumption.
I'd say, German Fetish had embraced into the bone marrow of British, but I won't :D
On the other hand, I really wonder how would the comparison fare today, since then-newly-launched-model is now more mature... S1000RR was already there for years when this review took place (and has won our hearths)...
Anyways, thanks for the time and effort...
"Yamaha MT-10 vs BMW S1000R" is mean drag race not like this that people want to see
As an owner myself of GSX1000S I fully agree with analysis and comment at the beginning of the video. And I am about to buy...the new S1000R. Thanks for this great review.
Is it just me that finds that ginger haired guy's voice bloody irritating?? lol..2018 MT10SP would be my go to choice currently, each to their own, 2018 Speed Triple RS is a belter too, so much to choose from in the super naked class nowadays..
had both, kept beamer.
Terrible review, regardless how good the MT10 might be, everything on the BWM is far superior, not ridden either, looking to by a z1000sx, but was advised to have a look at the MT10, not sure I have seen/watched such a biased reviewer, he should be embarrassed, and yes I’m still going to buy the Kawa.
But you could get the reward, for most biased bike reviewer I have seen to date.
best thing for the yamaha would be a prang to wipe off that ugly front end...............is it a competition to see who can put the ugliest piece of plastic on the front and completely root the looks...........who wants to buy something that looks like a praying mantis(ugly insect).........the looks will quickly date and so will the residual value of the bike as the designers come up with the next new thing.......the monkees bum look
What your actually doing is comparing a 16k bike against a 10k bike ? Not really fair plus bike magazines brake test showed the MT10 has better stopping power than that German cash cow 🐄 .
1:45 how to become a legend in one single comment SAVAGE lol
Well I disagreed with your comment .If you are a biker you should look for safety this safety that that’s a rubbish comment . It is about the addrelinin how it delivery and looks. MT 10 is better looking bike more upside positions than bmw. If you want a sports bike get a bmw rr.
If you are make an decision on brand that is wrong as well. How you feel when riding it. If you worry about having an accident don’t ride bike get a car safer.
7000 rpm/sec ? th-cam.com/video/n4UCYp3HgSQ/w-d-xo.html I my self considering a Mt10 or Super duke 1290r. Nice good review.
somebody forgot the Tuono ffs
+Adrian Barnard truuu lmao they forgot the 1290 R as well smh
as long as it doesnt brake down
Mt10 can be bought brand new for £10,000. How much for a Tuono or Superduke ??
@@kwak1k 16k for mt-10 here 14 for tuono rr
just a tuepisch bmw fan and ego of Mr white. Yamaha is much better much reliable and looking much beautiful. I understand you don't want Asian products beat European products. I can understand that but don't brainwash other people
just a tuepisch bmw fan and ego of Mr white. Yamaha is much better much reliable and looking much beautiful. I understand you don't want Asian products beat European products. I can understand that but don't brainwash other people
My 2015 R1 had an abrupt throttle until I did a cat delete now it's zero issue
I'll take the Yamaha 😊
Says something bad about the mt10 has a positive for s1000r.. but when a bad for the s1000r says nothing good about the mt10 🤣🤣
lets talk abou reliability, Yamaha wins by far, ok if it doesnt matter, take Streetfighter V4S the most unreliability naked lol.
MT-10 for character, looks, and yamaha's reliability.Also for the price and running costs.
The BMW is such a soul'less thing, like they had to design it in a few days.
Naked bikes aren't just for being good at numbers.
Agree...bmw look ugly!
Gsx s1000 with katana throttle body and PC and upgrade rear shock wins all day long and still cheaper. Who need all the electronic.
hard fucking decision between these two amazing machines. But personallu i would rather have the bmw. but my god they both look sexy af
I am actually very interested to buy the BMW S1000R because of the tea kettle joke that you made. Thanks
If the review is aimed at just comparing the two machines, then yeah, nice review.
However, if it's aimed at a consumer on the market to buy either one, the reviewers failed to address on huge elephant in the room - the price difference.
Taking that into account, the MT-10 suddenly looks a lot more attractive.
Yup, I've noticed that's true for more than just Australia.
In Portugal however, they are the same price, if you consider a bare bones BMW. But the options they mention in the review amount to about 1.800€. At that point, might as well throw in another 500€ and get a Tuono v4. ;)
Price should be taken into consideration, I'm sure Yamaha want to make it more affordable. Also, I feel they were not only going for supersport but tried to make the bike tour-able, hence the MT10 Touring edition.
MT10 jerky throttle haa. I ride my MT09 in A mode and it's fine. 🤓
but thats an mt09..
MT09 was hounded for it's jerky throttle response since it came out, he's saying it can't be worse than that.
You definitely grow accustomed to the FZ-09 throttle and it turns into a preference once you know how to control it.
i own a sportracker and the A mode is underivable at low medium corner when you have to adjust a bit the gas..that on off sensation is not fun in the middle of a turn. On Tracer they highly improved it.
Latest MT10 models have had the throttle sorted..
with all the bells in whistles he was on about you're paying $6,000 more for the BMW
The Top Gear of motorcycle reviewers. Anything not European is shite!!
glad to see that the s1000r is still on top... i was one month on a euro trip (ca 8500km) and i had heaps of fun with it
No match for MT 10 , S1000R is actualy one of the best super naked bikes like Super Duke 1290 ou Aprillia Tuono
Is this guy a hostage somewhere? It sounds like his captors forced him to make this statement. I heard him do an sos with his sighs