I remember when a lot of the old kits at the beginning of 10th edition were being removed from the index, there were some people joking about turning their old space marines into chaos space marines. So maybe you could change your old marines into a chaos warband that is vengeful for not being good enough anymore
I think kitbashing some of them to bring them up-to-date is a good idea, but I'd keep a few back, just for sentimental reasons. Always nice to be reminded of where you started out, or some of your favourite models/paint jobs from when you started. I was out of the hobby for several years and don't have any of my models from the early days, which is a real shame. I actually just bought a few classic models to paint, just for nostalgia. They'll never see a game, but that doesn't matter, as they're just for fun.
Hardly worth saying but my original Space Marines (Rogue Trader Space Wolves, mostly RTB01) are just chilling in a box. A testament to GW's evolving lore and design, they started life as Crimson Fists and got wholesale repainted when they got decimated in the lore. Then GW launched their Viking theme for Space Wolves and mark 7 armour and my collection just got boxed, never again to see the battlefield. I only started marines again last year and my primaris are Crimson Fists, except my mixed first founding kill team.
This whole video, as well as your comment, are a massive nostalgia trip for me! I was introduced to 40k by a friend when I was around 9/10 years old, I think it was 1992, so towards the end of 2nd edition, I believe. He had a Black Templar army! Some other friends played Old World Warhammer and had Bretonnians and Skeleton hordes. While learning about the differences I almost settled on a Dwarven army but, upon visiting a Games Workshop store, I found the Space Wolves! I'd originally been drawn to the Crimson Fists, as they were the original poster boys for 40k, but the unique models and names of Russ' Wolves had me sold! I eventually collected a 2-3k point army of Wolves. They now sit proudly in their own display cabinet, simply for the nostalgia! After a 25 year hiatus, I rekindled my love of model collecting/building/painting and now I have a large Primaris force of Dorn's finest...the Crimson Fists, of course!
Don't purge! Please... On your channel.. a cool thing I'd love to see you explore in the future ... Old-Hammer. Have you thought about curating a 4th/5th (or whatever) era army? Between your Templars and your Orks... you could have a fun side-board 4th/5th "classic" army. I like the new stuff and play, but also see 4th/5th era as perfectly viable with friends, etc.
Love to see how your templars have come along. One suggestion I have for old marines is to kitbash them into a different time period when those armour marks were mostly around such as the badab war or very late Heresy, removing all decorative bits
I am fairly new to the hobby so I don’t have any old models, but if I were you I’d use my old models as extras on vehicles or dead guys on the bases of your other army. That’s just some food for thought, hope this helps and I love your vids keep up the good work ❤
Love the video, but there is a one thing that has been bugging me for a while. The little kroot doggo on the shelf in front of the Necrons and Oks codecies. Could you spare a couple of hours to paint it up, pleeease?
with the old aircraft you can crash that one and use it for a base or you can do some kit bashing to try to make it look cool but all I know is that a hornet from halo could easily proxy as a Stormtalon Gunship or even a orca from command and conquer
Paint the vanilla marines as some sort of special veteran squad for their years of service and keep them. You will have fun repainting the old models it will bring back a lot of memories.
You'll miss them if you get rid of them and regret it I reckon. Just put them in a box and make a collection of heartwarming minis that you can look at from time to time but don't consider in your head to be 'your Templar Army' if you get what I mean.
This^ Also after some time has passed, the nostalgia will grow and you may see people looking for OG style space marines. Plus having the extra minis means he can spot a buddy and army, or set up diorama’s with them, etc…
I hate the primaris units and lore so I only use own and paint oldmarines, all you guys getting rid of your oldboys just fits perfectly into my old boyhood dream of having a chapter someday. Plus all of the oldmarines work well in Horus Heresy.@@Michael_MW
Thanks for the amazing videos Jay! Your army and its customization is a huge inspiration for my Ultramarines army (my goal is to colect the whole chapter some day but I'll have to become a brain surgeon or something to do that lol) keep up the hard work!
Every time I see your Black Templar collection I am inspired to continue painting my large, unpainted Hive Fleet Kraken Tyranids Army. Thank you for your painting videos 🙏
I’m glad you said scouts. Those land speeders and the scouts kitbashed together would be great a fast way for you scout squad to get where they need to go
Great collection, awesome enthusiasm and wonderful painting. Personally I've never seen the appeal in displaying a large space marine collection. The silhouette gets very monotone. Tons of medium-sized minis with tanks (boxes) and Dreadnaughts (cool).
I'm still collecting my space marine army 35+ years on from getting my first ones - RTB01 (have two boxes of those). I recently stripped a lot of them from all the random colours I'd painted over the years, so that I could repaint them all as one ENTIRE chapter. I have about 30,000 points! Wouldn't get rid of any of them, even the old janky ones that look silly, so some of them will live in the retirement home at the back of the fleet.
I only have 5 old tactical marines, but they were the first minis I ever bought. They're only half painted blue and yellow but they're near and dear. After that, I have about 1000 points of Necrons from 2004-2006, similarly badly painted and broken in many places, but some of it has been rescued and repainted and has seen games in 9th edition.
theyre not worth anything to anyone right now but theyre probably worth a lot more to you sentimentally so keep them as your journey. if anything its cool just to see and talk about in videos like this. its also something you can never retrive again when ur older. those little dudes you painted when u were a young you.
I would take many of those old space marines and make a diorama out of them. A scene, a battle, an escape? Just something that Your Black Templars went through.
I definitely get where you are coming from Jay. I started my Ultramarines 15 years ago. As time passed and I gained more skill the army evolved. I now have beautiful box art level primaris marines next to my thicc paint, primerless first born marines. I started stripping and converting my old marines (still first born) into veterans. My first ever warhammer models, a 5 man combat squad are now Sternguard Vets. However in my quest to unify my army I feel like I lost something. If I could do it differently I would have kept some of my old units as there were. Ultimate they were a point in history, a reminder of how far I have come. So maybe keep some of your old units as is. Perhaps in the future you will be glad you did.
Jay please use your old dreadnoughts for a diorama and make a video out of it. That way you have recycled it into a display piece, scale wouldn't matter as you wouldn't be running them. (Would be fun to see dreadnoughts taking on a bunch of Roger rogers)
BROOOO! Epic collection!! Truly impressive work you have put into it. As an old Black Templar main I just want to say that our High Marshal would be proud of you, brother. I stopped playing 40k a while back and these days I mostly do AoS and am looking forward to Old World. I wonder how you feel about the "upscaling" of 40k? Personally, I am salty about the introduction of "bigger/cooler looking versions" of all of the popular minis. Now all of us old players who spent an eternity painting our beloved armies have to watch our armies get phased out??? Well, not *entirely* phased out, but who would want to run those runty little space marines when the new ones make them look like a joke? "They are fine, not good- but fine." Yup. Another issue I have with GW's choice here. They made the old minis "meh" and the new ones good to try to force their consumers to re-buy what is essentially the same army. (Why not make new sculpts, but the same size? Why must they always power creep?) Feels *super* scummy to me, but I understand that not everyone sees it that way. Some people defend the upscale. I say to them: Okay maybe it did need to happen, but if in a few years GW starts releasing "bigger/cooler versions" yet again then I believe my take will be vindicated. It feels sad watching you look through all of your beautiful work and consider which minis you can still run without it looking silly. As a loyal fan and consumer, you shouldn't be made to do that. Thanks for another great video Jay. I am a long time fan. :)
Before you consider getting rid of your old models, consider making an awesome battle diorama to preserve them for posterity. I saw a cool one Ninjon? Made that had them going back a few levels in a wall frame setup.
I'm with you J, The Centurions are my favorite infantry models from the Space Marine line, I love the silliness of armor for your Space Marine armor. I liked your idea from a while ago about the centurion suits being dropped in via drop pod and a team of Space Marines intercepting the drop and donning the armor and wreaking havoc before doffing the armor once ammo is depleted or too much Damage is taken, and then continuing the Fight in their normal armor. It creates a really cinematic moment in my mind when they enter the battlefield now.
What I want do with my old Minis is to turn them into terrain pieces like statues and reliefs to mimic some of the most glorius moments I had with them :)
I think it’s great how attached to the army you are. My advice is not to eBay the old guys. They tell a story of your painting and hobby, and that to me is art.
For me, I sold off most of my old stuff of that I've acquired on eBay. I love the new aesthetic too. They just look so good. I am with my Dark Angels the way you are with your black Templars. I've only been into the hobby for a couple of years so I haven't been able to build much, but I'm building everything else before my Dark Angels because I want them to be flawless
I just got into warhammer, i went with Black Templars because, Black Templars. So all i have is the Primaris Size. I've been painted D&D minis since the 90s. im really enjoying the new size and lore. Now that im older and can afford warhammer 😆 im finding so much enjoyment in painting again. Anyways, i enjoy your channel while i build and paint.
It was such a liberating feeling to figure out that there is little chance I'll ever play an "official" match anywhere so I can do what I want with my models. I only ever play Path To Glory matches against myself, but it has been fun making a bunch of 600 point armies to go against each other.
@@11AleZZ It is the narrative play option for Age of Sigmar. You can start with 600 point armies and build them up over matches to be full. It's really good for using models you wouldn't in matched play.
I really enjoyed the promotion ceremony for the deredeo dread. You know what else has a huge rod……that’s right our patreon!!!! Thanks gents!! Fantastic as always!!!
Could use the scraps of what’s left after updating the old Templar as downed brothers who have died at the feet of the new Templar’s like just dead guys on the bases basically
I saw another video you did showing off all the black templars , and Im not even upset.. like I love the asthetic of the faction so much and your models are so freakin cool. I am only 3 yrs into the hobby and wargaming stuff so I don't get to play much. I just love to collect and paint mostly, but at some point I hope to have a super sized collection like that looking just so dope to show off !
I bought my old tactical marines into my imperial fists 30k legion. Mk7 did exist during that period during the siege of terra if I can recall correctly (mainly used as test pieces for new yellow formulas but incorporated into the legion anyway for games if I need to bolster points). The dreadnought collection would be cool if they were repainted and displayed as I feel they are iconic to the space marines. Otherwise I do incorporate some first born parts onto my primaris marines (mainly heads and helmets)
I love your collection. Currently working on an Ultramarines Gladius strike force with the layout from 7th edition. Had to change it up because they dropped some half of the list with 10th.
Oingo Boingo. I knew I liked you. Seriously, start by finishing up your unfinished current-play minis. The repulsors and the terminators, swap heads on those scouts, etc. If you want to use the older dreadnaughts, replace the bases with something that will bring the existing models to the same height as the new models. That's actually a good idea with those marines as a whole, put them on taller bases so they match up height with all the new sets. Kitbash the weapons as needed, they're still good. I love the idea of updating the bikes. Wonder if someone out there has already made 3D bits for converting them?
You could build a shelf for the old Marines and remember where it all started for you I know I have some 2013 dark angels and I'm doing the same for them
I have over 5200 points of Dark Angels so far. I'm halfway through building my World Eaters army along with a combat patrol of imperial guard and just now started on building my Tau army starting with Farsight.
Oh. I thought you meant "old" terminators. I have many, many metal ones. I just put them and their 25mm base on top of the 40mm and base. It helps make more uniform.
So, I have 2 Ideas for your old models. One, you could turn your firstborn into a start to a Horus Heresy army. Templar Brethren are a thing for Imperial Fists, and they were one of the only legions to have Mark 7 during the end of the Heresy if I remember correctly. Or two, you can make a diorama/board of some kind. Maybe an Assault on Blackreach board.
I have a lot of Horus Heresy marines that I run in 40k (casually) I use cork on the bases (thanks for that) to give them some extra height, but mixed squads do still look weird. My short king chaplain is trying so hard.
Dioramas! You're a painter, you're an artist! Take those old models that have been retired from gameplay and refurbish them into standalone visual art pieces. You can say "Over here is my Black Templar Army" and over here " are my battle scenes and dioramas inspired by old school 40k artwork and gameplay memories." I'm sure some of those models have some amazing gameplay moments from their heyday that you've always associated them with. How cool would it be to immortalize the time that one dreadnaught took down the enemy commander by refurbishing it into an action diorama!
I play Chaos so I don't need to worry as much but for the other factions in my Chaos army may be a stretch. Playing CSM mostly but with a smattering of other things like Space Marines, Daemons, Guard, Orks, Kroot, Sisters and other things that have fallen to Chaos as it is a lore based army ranging from 2nd edition. seeing this army of yours and hearing your plans just got me in the mood to paint more of my shame so thank you.
I have been adding a bit of greenstuff between their torso and legs and cutting the shins and adding in plastic tubes to make them the size of primaries
my recommendation save a squad of your favorite tactical, it because of a kitbash or paint job. Also save your favorite character and dreadnoughts, maybe give them a modern paint job and sell the rest. Otherwise you might end up like me and buying back the ones you absolutely love again.
maybe build up a cool diorama for your old memories, cool to add would be the most glorious fights you remember with them, so add a dead enemy or a fighting scene or else or maybe just put them of the bases, maybe of other armies, maybe as a dead one at an apothecary, there is much for you to thinkk and dont like throw them away, there will always be love for your old ones :D
Rhino is a Whirlwind if you find/print a rocket launcher. So a win win for me. My old Dreadnoughts were converted to Bjorn, Murderfang and 3 more Wulfen Dreadnoughts with the help of one SW Venerable Dreadnought kit and some 3D printing.
As a Drukhari player, any of the older models that I have that aren't *quite* antique and super cool get hacked up and used for basing material to make the newer models look cooler!
Personally I probably like a lot of your old stuff more. Primarily because I despise the new hover vehicles. My 5th wolves are effectively complete, I refuse to add anything primaris to them, so everything I have somehow acquired I put into a new sharks army.
Along time ago i was buying darkangles upgrade for $20, it came with 6 robed bodies. I used them for my black templars. I cut them at the hips, greenstufffed them to be bigger and strung chains around the green stuff. this made them a little taller. I then used extra bits from primas line and I mix them into my squads as robed units. they are a little smaller as i miss judged the green stuff. But, im updating as many old things as i can. I also have ALOT!!!! of dark vengeance terminators i kit bashed and use as black templars aswell. once you remove some dark angle icons they look really cool.
@EonsOfBattle Black Templars in 10th can run those old tac marines as crusader squads. They're actually pretty competitive in squads of 5 with a heavy and special weapon each
The perfect way to recycle all non primary space screens. As what's I have done is turned them into statues on the characters of my army and then I've turned a lot of the older space. Brains up on pillars as sculptures in a city looks really good that way. And I still use my old guys. But they're no longer being played in battle. They just have to come statues and I do pain them like they are carved. Or a stone carve statue
I am sad you have the vindicator in the "does not exist" pile Its very good unit *and* I would love to see what you do with the big canvas of the siege shield
I regret not keeping up with Warhammer, between my sophomore and junior year of high school my brother and I got into Warhammer Fantasy, and I built some Vampire Counts models, that Christmas we got some more models and we even pooled our money together and got a 40K sixth edition starter set but we never even built it. Shortly after we got it I got my first job, then I had a girlfriend and between, work, school, and friends I was just too busy to get back into it but it always sat at the back of my mind. Then recently I took almost a whole month off work and because I now live near a designated Warhammer store I decided to jump into it. Next time I’m home I’ll probably grab my old warhammer stuff from my brother.
Wait that's crazy i've also been reading the Eragon series while painting miniatures. Such a good book series and i cant wait till they announce the show
Feel free to convert them Jay (apart from the Dreadnoughts and characters, they should be museumed) except for like, one squad of each unit, just for posterity, like your necron paint job.
Either.. rework them into casualty markers and beautifully gruesome terrain pieces of a slaughter.. or rework them into a diorama.. or repurpose them for a non GW tabletop. Mini Marines work perfectly for Stargrave for example. Considering the amount of models, you could go for all three of those options 😆
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i like the old scouts
if your looking to sell old stuff id be intrested, i colect and use old space marines.
Diorama with Nick's blue Orks recreating John Blanche's Black Templar art work.
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Great idea
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Have you ever had a game with your full Black templar army?
I remember when a lot of the old kits at the beginning of 10th edition were being removed from the index, there were some people joking about turning their old space marines into chaos space marines. So maybe you could change your old marines into a chaos warband that is vengeful for not being good enough anymore
I think kitbashing some of them to bring them up-to-date is a good idea, but I'd keep a few back, just for sentimental reasons. Always nice to be reminded of where you started out, or some of your favourite models/paint jobs from when you started. I was out of the hobby for several years and don't have any of my models from the early days, which is a real shame. I actually just bought a few classic models to paint, just for nostalgia. They'll never see a game, but that doesn't matter, as they're just for fun.
Jay you have to run the old dreadnaughts! You cannot let the ancients be forgotten! Their whole sthick is that they look old and out-of-place.
Hardly worth saying but my original Space Marines (Rogue Trader Space Wolves, mostly RTB01) are just chilling in a box. A testament to GW's evolving lore and design, they started life as Crimson Fists and got wholesale repainted when they got decimated in the lore. Then GW launched their Viking theme for Space Wolves and mark 7 armour and my collection just got boxed, never again to see the battlefield. I only started marines again last year and my primaris are Crimson Fists, except my mixed first founding kill team.
This whole video, as well as your comment, are a massive nostalgia trip for me!
I was introduced to 40k by a friend when I was around 9/10 years old, I think it was 1992, so towards the end of 2nd edition, I believe. He had a Black Templar army! Some other friends played Old World Warhammer and had Bretonnians and Skeleton hordes. While learning about the differences I almost settled on a Dwarven army but, upon visiting a Games Workshop store, I found the Space Wolves! I'd originally been drawn to the Crimson Fists, as they were the original poster boys for 40k, but the unique models and names of Russ' Wolves had me sold! I eventually collected a 2-3k point army of Wolves. They now sit proudly in their own display cabinet, simply for the nostalgia!
After a 25 year hiatus, I rekindled my love of model collecting/building/painting and now I have a large Primaris force of Dorn's finest...the Crimson Fists, of course!
I think you should always keep every model you painted up, it's a part of your history and shows growth.
Don't purge! Please...
On your channel.. a cool thing I'd love to see you explore in the future ... Old-Hammer. Have you thought about curating a 4th/5th (or whatever) era army? Between your Templars and your Orks... you could have a fun side-board 4th/5th "classic" army. I like the new stuff and play, but also see 4th/5th era as perfectly viable with friends, etc.
Love to see how your templars have come along. One suggestion I have for old marines is to kitbash them into a different time period when those armour marks were mostly around such as the badab war or very late Heresy, removing all decorative bits
Love your enthusiasm man! I just kit bashed my first couple models yesterday. It was so much fun! Very proud of the customizations.
I am fairly new to the hobby so I don’t have any old models, but if I were you I’d use my old models as extras on vehicles or dead guys on the bases of your other army. That’s just some food for thought, hope this helps and I love your vids keep up the good work ❤
Love the video, but there is a one thing that has been bugging me for a while. The little kroot doggo on the shelf in front of the Necrons and Oks codecies. Could you spare a couple of hours to paint it up, pleeease?
with the old aircraft you can crash that one and use it for a base or you can do some kit bashing to try to make it look cool but all I know is that a hornet from halo could easily proxy as a Stormtalon Gunship or even a orca from command and conquer
One think in the third tier that is 100% usable is the Vindicator. Those tanks put in crazy work
Paint the vanilla marines as some sort of special veteran squad for their years of service and keep them. You will have fun repainting the old models it will bring back a lot of memories.
You'll miss them if you get rid of them and regret it I reckon. Just put them in a box and make a collection of heartwarming minis that you can look at from time to time but don't consider in your head to be 'your Templar Army' if you get what I mean.
Should hold on to em for sentimental value
This^
Also after some time has passed, the nostalgia will grow and you may see people looking for OG style space marines.
Plus having the extra minis means he can spot a buddy and army, or set up diorama’s with them, etc…
I hate the primaris units and lore so I only use own and paint oldmarines, all you guys getting rid of your oldboys just fits perfectly into my old boyhood dream of having a chapter someday. Plus all of the oldmarines work well in Horus Heresy.@@Michael_MW
Thanks for the amazing videos Jay! Your army and its customization is a huge inspiration for my Ultramarines army (my goal is to colect the whole chapter some day but I'll have to become a brain surgeon or something to do that lol) keep up the hard work!
Every time I see your Black Templar collection I am inspired to continue painting my large, unpainted Hive Fleet Kraken Tyranids Army. Thank you for your painting videos 🙏
I’m glad you said scouts. Those land speeders and the scouts kitbashed together would be great a fast way for you scout squad to get where they need to go
Great collection, awesome enthusiasm and wonderful painting. Personally I've never seen the appeal in displaying a large space marine collection. The silhouette gets very monotone. Tons of medium-sized minis with tanks (boxes) and Dreadnaughts (cool).
I hope your conversion to update the Rhinos into your Deathguard works out well, sounds awesome!
I'm still collecting my space marine army 35+ years on from getting my first ones - RTB01 (have two boxes of those). I recently stripped a lot of them from all the random colours I'd painted over the years, so that I could repaint them all as one ENTIRE chapter. I have about 30,000 points! Wouldn't get rid of any of them, even the old janky ones that look silly, so some of them will live in the retirement home at the back of the fleet.
Tier three, I still love you even if Jay doesn't.
Powerfists on those old terminators look awesome
Every Monday I watch your videos when I'm at the metro and they unironically make me smile ❤
I like how Jay also knows that Rhinos are basically free
Is that a poor hammer reference?!
no one buys Rhinos
even GW gives them away (not for free ... obviously, but they love shoving them into boxes)
I only have 5 old tactical marines, but they were the first minis I ever bought. They're only half painted blue and yellow but they're near and dear.
After that, I have about 1000 points of Necrons from 2004-2006, similarly badly painted and broken in many places, but some of it has been rescued and repainted and has seen games in 9th edition.
theyre not worth anything to anyone right now but theyre probably worth a lot more to you sentimentally so keep them as your journey. if anything its cool just to see and talk about in videos like this. its also something you can never retrive again when ur older. those little dudes you painted when u were a young you.
I would take many of those old space marines and make a diorama out of them. A scene, a battle, an escape? Just something that Your Black Templars went through.
I definitely get where you are coming from Jay. I started my Ultramarines 15 years ago. As time passed and I gained more skill the army evolved. I now have beautiful box art level primaris marines next to my thicc paint, primerless first born marines.
I started stripping and converting my old marines (still first born) into veterans. My first ever warhammer models, a 5 man combat squad are now Sternguard Vets.
However in my quest to unify my army I feel like I lost something. If I could do it differently I would have kept some of my old units as there were. Ultimate they were a point in history, a reminder of how far I have come. So maybe keep some of your old units as is. Perhaps in the future you will be glad you did.
Jay please use your old dreadnoughts for a diorama and make a video out of it. That way you have recycled it into a display piece, scale wouldn't matter as you wouldn't be running them. (Would be fun to see dreadnoughts taking on a bunch of Roger rogers)
Every couple months we get to see a collection tour and it's double the size as last time
BROOOO! Epic collection!! Truly impressive work you have put into it. As an old Black Templar main I just want to say that our High Marshal would be proud of you, brother. I stopped playing 40k a while back and these days I mostly do AoS and am looking forward to Old World.
I wonder how you feel about the "upscaling" of 40k? Personally, I am salty about the introduction of "bigger/cooler looking versions" of all of the popular minis. Now all of us old players who spent an eternity painting our beloved armies have to watch our armies get phased out??? Well, not *entirely* phased out, but who would want to run those runty little space marines when the new ones make them look like a joke?
"They are fine, not good- but fine." Yup. Another issue I have with GW's choice here. They made the old minis "meh" and the new ones good to try to force their consumers to re-buy what is essentially the same army. (Why not make new sculpts, but the same size? Why must they always power creep?) Feels *super* scummy to me, but I understand that not everyone sees it that way. Some people defend the upscale. I say to them: Okay maybe it did need to happen, but if in a few years GW starts releasing "bigger/cooler versions" yet again then I believe my take will be vindicated.
It feels sad watching you look through all of your beautiful work and consider which minis you can still run without it looking silly. As a loyal fan and consumer, you shouldn't be made to do that. Thanks for another great video Jay. I am a long time fan. :)
“I have 40 terminators in my collection”
Grey Knights Players: only 40?
The museum angle is a good one. Making display boxes of kill team sized forces for different eras of your army would be cool.
I’ve became a fan of yours recently. And I’ll be going to adepticon for the first time this year. Hoping I’ll bump into you.
Before you consider getting rid of your old models, consider making an awesome battle diorama to preserve them for posterity. I saw a cool one Ninjon? Made that had them going back a few levels in a wall frame setup.
the moment you look at the army and find the Terminator with your name on it. love it.
I'm with you J, The Centurions are my favorite infantry models from the Space Marine line, I love the silliness of armor for your Space Marine armor. I liked your idea from a while ago about the centurion suits being dropped in via drop pod and a team of Space Marines intercepting the drop and donning the armor and wreaking havoc before doffing the armor once ammo is depleted or too much Damage is taken, and then continuing the Fight in their normal armor. It creates a really cinematic moment in my mind when they enter the battlefield now.
What I want do with my old Minis is to turn them into terrain pieces like statues and reliefs to mimic some of the most glorius moments I had with them :)
I think it’s great how attached to the army you are. My advice is not to eBay the old guys. They tell a story of your painting and hobby, and that to me is art.
My Tyranid plushie is getting hungry looking at all this biomass
putting them in a last battle inside of a epic diorama to have them crusade forever in said battle would be an epic idea
For me, I sold off most of my old stuff of that I've acquired on eBay. I love the new aesthetic too. They just look so good. I am with my Dark Angels the way you are with your black Templars. I've only been into the hobby for a couple of years so I haven't been able to build much, but I'm building everything else before my Dark Angels because I want them to be flawless
I picked up cheap Rhinos for my Death Guard. To Nurgle them up I used miliput for flesh around googily eyes for pustules
I just got into warhammer, i went with Black Templars because, Black Templars. So all i have is the Primaris Size. I've been painted D&D minis since the 90s. im really enjoying the new size and lore. Now that im older and can afford warhammer 😆 im finding so much enjoyment in painting again. Anyways, i enjoy your channel while i build and paint.
Maybe using some old models as statues in a diorama would be fitting as a "Hall of Heros"
It was such a liberating feeling to figure out that there is little chance I'll ever play an "official" match anywhere so I can do what I want with my models. I only ever play Path To Glory matches against myself, but it has been fun making a bunch of 600 point armies to go against each other.
What's Path to Glory??
@@11AleZZ It is the narrative play option for Age of Sigmar. You can start with 600 point armies and build them up over matches to be full. It's really good for using models you wouldn't in matched play.
I really enjoyed the promotion ceremony for the deredeo dread. You know what else has a huge rod……that’s right our patreon!!!! Thanks gents!! Fantastic as always!!!
Could use the scraps of what’s left after updating the old Templar as downed brothers who have died at the feet of the new Templar’s like just dead guys on the bases basically
I saw another video you did showing off all the black templars , and Im not even upset.. like I love the asthetic of the faction so much and your models are so freakin cool. I am only 3 yrs into the hobby and wargaming stuff so I don't get to play much. I just love to collect and paint mostly, but at some point I hope to have a super sized collection like that looking just so dope to show off !
I bought my old tactical marines into my imperial fists 30k legion. Mk7 did exist during that period during the siege of terra if I can recall correctly (mainly used as test pieces for new yellow formulas but incorporated into the legion anyway for games if I need to bolster points).
The dreadnought collection would be cool if they were repainted and displayed as I feel they are iconic to the space marines.
Otherwise I do incorporate some first born parts onto my primaris marines (mainly heads and helmets)
Turn the old marines into corpse piles, that would be some cool terrain!
I love your collection. Currently working on an Ultramarines Gladius strike force with the layout from 7th edition. Had to change it up because they dropped some half of the list with 10th.
Oh fuck, I didn't realize that the Redemptor was so huge compared to the venerable.
Oingo Boingo. I knew I liked you.
Seriously, start by finishing up your unfinished current-play minis. The repulsors and the terminators, swap heads on those scouts, etc.
If you want to use the older dreadnaughts, replace the bases with something that will bring the existing models to the same height as the new models.
That's actually a good idea with those marines as a whole, put them on taller bases so they match up height with all the new sets. Kitbash the weapons as needed, they're still good.
I love the idea of updating the bikes. Wonder if someone out there has already made 3D bits for converting them?
You could build a shelf for the old Marines and remember where it all started for you I know I have some 2013 dark angels and I'm doing the same for them
2:27 Not gonna lie, the moment I heard Jay say the word "Eragon," I started to cheer loudly.
I kind of like your old scouts and I'm sure flyers will be good again one day (or they will be museum pieces because removed from game entirely).
I'm playing on making my old space marines (dark angels) into a chaos army under Cypher. The demons will be angelic host sort of stuff.
I have over 5200 points of Dark Angels so far. I'm halfway through building my World Eaters army along with a combat patrol of imperial guard and just now started on building my Tau army starting with Farsight.
Oh. I thought you meant "old" terminators. I have many, many metal ones. I just put them and their 25mm base on top of the 40mm and base. It helps make more uniform.
So, I have 2 Ideas for your old models. One, you could turn your firstborn into a start to a Horus Heresy army. Templar Brethren are a thing for Imperial Fists, and they were one of the only legions to have Mark 7 during the end of the Heresy if I remember correctly. Or two, you can make a diorama/board of some kind. Maybe an Assault on Blackreach board.
I have a lot of Horus Heresy marines that I run in 40k (casually) I use cork on the bases (thanks for that) to give them some extra height, but mixed squads do still look weird. My short king chaplain is trying so hard.
Old dreadnoughts can be sent to the greenstuff factory and become helbrutes for your nurgle
Dioramas! You're a painter, you're an artist! Take those old models that have been retired from gameplay and refurbish them into standalone visual art pieces. You can say "Over here is my Black Templar Army" and over here " are my battle scenes and dioramas inspired by old school 40k artwork and gameplay memories." I'm sure some of those models have some amazing gameplay moments from their heyday that you've always associated them with. How cool would it be to immortalize the time that one dreadnaught took down the enemy commander by refurbishing it into an action diorama!
As soon as I found out about Centurion Warsuits, I had to print 2 units of them and get them in the table
I also use my Dorito dread as a ballistus! It just makes sense.
Jay, do a collab with Minisodes. I believe he is the premiere Oldhammer 40K channel on YT. Battlereports, love for the derpmarines and all that.
The old scouts are amazing!
I play Chaos so I don't need to worry as much but for the other factions in my Chaos army may be a stretch. Playing CSM mostly but with a smattering of other things like Space Marines, Daemons, Guard, Orks, Kroot, Sisters and other things that have fallen to Chaos as it is a lore based army ranging from 2nd edition. seeing this army of yours and hearing your plans just got me in the mood to paint more of my shame so thank you.
A diorama with craters and smoke clouds and squadies would be cool backdrop to done fancy characters
I have been adding a bit of greenstuff between their torso and legs and cutting the shins and adding in plastic tubes to make them the size of primaries
my recommendation save a squad of your favorite tactical, it because of a kitbash or paint job. Also save your favorite character and dreadnoughts, maybe give them a modern paint job and sell the rest.
Otherwise you might end up like me and buying back the ones you absolutely love again.
maybe build up a cool diorama for your old memories, cool to add would be the most glorious fights you remember with them, so add a dead enemy or a fighting scene or else
or maybe just put them of the bases, maybe of other armies, maybe as a dead one at an apothecary, there is much for you to thinkk and dont like throw them away, there will always be love for your old ones :D
Seeing Eons of Battle saying Rhinos suck when they are currently some of the best vehicles in the game hurts me.
You could make an epic diorama out of all your old fullas, let the old guard go down fighting like they would have wanted.
Rhino is a Whirlwind if you find/print a rocket launcher. So a win win for me.
My old Dreadnoughts were converted to Bjorn, Murderfang and 3 more Wulfen Dreadnoughts with the help of one SW Venerable Dreadnought kit and some 3D printing.
Whirlwinds just caught a smack from the nerf bat
@@Meako92 yes it did and still on the edge of usability, probably better then plain Rhino.
As a Drukhari player, any of the older models that I have that aren't *quite* antique and super cool get hacked up and used for basing material to make the newer models look cooler!
Can't wait for you to show us the finished death guard army and push them space marine Boyz off the table
@1:26 Those are some handsome looking terminators front and center!! Great job with your collection. #I'll buy your first models!!
Would you ever do any sort of games or battle reports on the channel? Would love to see your army in action or even just hearing more about them?
Personally I probably like a lot of your old stuff more. Primarily because I despise the new hover vehicles.
My 5th wolves are effectively complete, I refuse to add anything primaris to them, so everything I have somehow acquired I put into a new sharks army.
Along time ago i was buying darkangles upgrade for $20, it came with 6 robed bodies. I used them for my black templars. I cut them at the hips, greenstufffed them to be bigger and strung chains around the green stuff. this made them a little taller. I then used extra bits from primas line and I mix them into my squads as robed units. they are a little smaller as i miss judged the green stuff. But, im updating as many old things as i can. I also have ALOT!!!! of dark vengeance terminators i kit bashed and use as black templars aswell. once you remove some dark angle icons they look really cool.
@EonsOfBattle Black Templars in 10th can run those old tac marines as crusader squads. They're actually pretty competitive in squads of 5 with a heavy and special weapon each
The perfect way to recycle all non primary space screens. As what's I have done is turned them into statues on the characters of my army and then I've turned a lot of the older space. Brains up on pillars as sculptures in a city looks really good that way. And I still use my old guys. But they're no longer being played in battle. They just have to come statues and I do pain them like they are carved. Or a stone carve statue
I am sad you have the vindicator in the "does not exist" pile
Its very good unit *and* I would love to see what you do with the big canvas of the siege shield
The little dreadnought with no arms would be a perfect inquisitor karamazov proxie. With some kitbashing.
I regret not keeping up with Warhammer, between my sophomore and junior year of high school my brother and I got into Warhammer Fantasy, and I built some Vampire Counts models, that Christmas we got some more models and we even pooled our money together and got a 40K sixth edition starter set but we never even built it. Shortly after we got it I got my first job, then I had a girlfriend and between, work, school, and friends I was just too busy to get back into it but it always sat at the back of my mind. Then recently I took almost a whole month off work and because I now live near a designated Warhammer store I decided to jump into it.
Next time I’m home I’ll probably grab my old warhammer stuff from my brother.
Wait that's crazy i've also been reading the Eragon series while painting miniatures. Such a good book series and i cant wait till they announce the show
Feel free to convert them Jay (apart from the Dreadnoughts and characters, they should be museumed) except for like, one squad of each unit, just for posterity, like your necron paint job.
Those blue grey Templar’s looking sweet
4:46 Woahh like the custom livery. Like those old American bombers
Either.. rework them into casualty markers and beautifully gruesome terrain pieces of a slaughter.. or rework them into a diorama.. or repurpose them for a non GW tabletop. Mini Marines work perfectly for Stargrave for example.
Considering the amount of models, you could go for all three of those options 😆
I have 15 space wolf dreadnoughts , 10th edition made me cry a little
You should do a review of hoard mode from the poor hammer podcast. You have the perfect collection for it.
Put them on the shelf and remember all the good memories and fun times had with them. Don't hide them away, give them what they deserve xox
Strip your old minis and paint them in a retro style BT paint scheme; goblin green base and all.