Michael Jordan: Untouchable (part 2)
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I used to always get shit in the 90’s for saying the refs called soft calls on Jordan’s opponents. I had almost forgotten about it until watching this. Good reminder.
as kids, playing basketball at the park, we had a name for fouls that to us were non existent, we called them "jordan fouls" lol even as kids we knew jordan was receiving special treatment
This is hilariously true.
i wonder what is worst, "jordan fouls" kobe carrying the ball or lebron's flopping
@@fenderman7755 don’t forget jordan whining and crying to the refs constantly.. traveling and carrying the ball more than anyone. literally most all of the bad things about the game started with jordan getting away with it
@@jaredfullmer5104 true true
@@jaredfullmer5104Jordan made superstars become bigger than teams
"Jordan was cold, so naturally the ref's whistles were hot"
That made my day.
The clearest sign of flagrant bias towards Jordan, besides the game announcers never having a word to say about awful officiating, is how late most shooting foul calls were on Jordan. It's almost as if the referees were waiting to see if his shots went in before making a decision at times when he was playing. Especially if he was having a bad night shooting.
Yeah. I didn't add it for time's sake, but there was originally going to be a note about that @7:21.
i remember thinking the same thing while watching those games back then
And sometimes the opposite..
Whistle soon as anyone jumps up with him (before any actual contact).
If you hit someone on their arm while they’re in the shooting motion, it’s a foul. It might look “soft” but according to the NBA rule book that’s a foul.
Shots missed during foul calls used to count towards a players FG %. Of course the NBA would later get rid of that rule.
The most gifted athlete ever in the NBA. 5 to 10 gifts a night from the refs
@@cyberpunkalphamale Nice!
no refs cheating for jordan = no rings for jordan.
Haters Lie Because It's All They Got I think he probably would have reasonably won a couple of those championships, but definitely not all. When he left for that year and a half it was so refreshing to see the Rockets and someone else from the East both years.
Lol clearly all fouls! What are you people watching? At 4:31 you can clearly see starks push Jordan on the hips before he pulls up for the jump shot! Before that that play he definitely established that charge foul. Lol you people are funny haha
At 5:17 all clean great defense. Again what are you watching? Block, strip, block, block. All straight up jumping. Watch on slow mo every play was on the ball. As for the knicks they are just like those bad boys pistons who play dirty and scrappy.
Fatboy Davis
It was amusing to me how the media blew up when Kobe Bryant said that McGrady, not Jordan, was the toughest player he ever had to guard. Which wasn't very surprising given how beastly McGrady was. A lot of the reason McGrady never got as hyped as other superstars is because he wasn't a heralded player in high school, didn't go to college and didn't play on a big market team. There wasn't any pre-established buzz for him to take to his small market so he went under the radar. By the time he played his way to notoriety his body began to break down.
All your responses are so accurate. What are your thoughts on Vince Carter being the dunk G.O.A.T yet there are still those in denial who believe it's Mj.
Fatboy Davis
I couldn't even take a person who says Jordan was a better dunker than Vince Carter seriously to be honest. Jordan's dunks were amazing at the time, but if you look back at them after seeing Vince's, Jordan's dunks look as outdated as VHS tapes.
+TheRiggedBA keep up the good work
Kobe never faced Mj in his prime. He faced a Mj who used postmoves and IQ to score. He wasn't facing 87-93 My jumping out the gym
What happened to part 1?
I hate the Knicks, but damn they got robbed by the JordanRefs in 1993.
Knicks choked against the Bulls in 93 plain and simple
Damn right. MJ owned the Knicks.
@nicksen dolce exactly
Imagine if Memes were big in the 90's NBA...
imagine what GIF's would have looked like. Lol.
is this the physical ERA oldies were talking about? Lol
LOL
no, it is the era right before they started protecting jordan
When I watch old tape of Bulls, Celtics, Lakers games I don't see the overbearing physicality or "noncalls" that supposedly routinely occured as Kenny Smith or Stephen A. and Barkley claim. Seems like many calls made today on soft contact would be similarly called back then. Steph Curry for instance I notice people trying to put hands on him often.
We've been lied to all our lives
@@AceofDlamonds I agree with you
A manufactured star
🤗Extremely talented but 🤨very much manufactured.💯
@@terrancemccray6704 agreed
@@Officialkingofallkings sports is a business you i/diot
@@terrancemccray6704 i/diot
Nah he was a star but the league,Nike and media made him mythical legend.
Came here because I hear 2 many people cry about Harden drawing fouls when Jordan barely gets touched and shoot lmao.
dbritton89 THANK YOU💯💯
dbritton89 But harden doesn’t have anti gravity in his testicles so he can “Fly” like Jordan LOL, so even if they are Marketing Harden he’s not gonna the Jordan Treatment because imagine his season if he Did. He’d probably have had an 81 win season and swept the playoffs with an 80 point triple double season average with 35 ft attempts a game average. Hahahahahah. I’m not saying Hames Harden is some God or something. He’s a good player. Just saying with a full Jordan level Dick sucking by the NBA he could probably look like that because of how reallllly hardcore the Jirdan Treatment is. Like if he got the Jordan treatment they’d be calling shooting fouls on players 15 feet away from him so he could have uncontested half court threes and get 3-4 points that is like Jordan Level Treatment hahaha.
My theory as to why this stuff is spread out now is because of the internet. They couldn't get away with blatantly fixing it for one guy anymore, so they subtly spread it out across the league.
It's also hilarious how many Jordan worshippers there are on the internet. Even with all the rigging in his favor, he still takes a backseat to players like Wilt Chamberlain. I don't remember the exact quote, but Wilt said something like this: "When they start changing the rules to try to stop you, that's when you know you're good. All the rule changes I've seen have been to help you (Jordan)."
Jordan is so overhyped it’s not even funny
I started realizing after my childhood that he was nothing close to the myth they sold us.
money Mark still not as much, particularly because he may be a better basketball player.
But MJ is seen as virtually flawless, that once he figured it out, he couldnt lose
@@well.thy.one. As overhyped as MJ was, lebron is WAY more overhyped. he isn't even a top 2 SF and he gets treated like a top 5 player. He shouldn't even be considered a top 5 player today. he isn't even the best player on his team. 2012, and 2016 finals are the most rigged i've ever seen. 2013 had some terrible officiating too. lets not even mention his rigged eastern conference victories.
Lebron is definetly the most overrated.
Poop In The Butt i see your point, but im just not sure. MJ is still made out to be completely untouchable.
@@well.thy.one. Yea, and it is sickening. thay worship him like a god or something.
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Terrible phantom calls on this clown. Im from Detroit.. Everyone talks about how they softened the rules so jordan could win. Magic, kareem, bird, isaiah were all retired when he started winning and he got 20 plus free throws on any given bad night. Just terrible. Basketball is a joke but as far as talent and player wise Kareem, Magic, James are all ahead of this inflated MJ... Free throw king can't get near him, Most of them calls guys didn't even touch him. The 93 Knicks ECF game was horrendous they must have hacked the knicks 10 times in the last couple of seconds while jordan got away with charges and defensive penalties and got whistles for even trying to guard him. Knicks should have beat them clowns that year. This guy was a fraud I see.
20 plus free throws on any given bad night? Jordan's FTA went down after 90-91, while his FGA went up. FYI Lebron is averaging more free throw attempts per game than Michael did.
B.s. diff game
Low self-esteem hater...
Michael was not as good as LeBron everyone knows that that watches basketball
gerizzyYMcrew In the 1995 Western Conference Super Bowl, the Chicago Cubs shot over 40 free throws that led them to winning the World Series... owned
LeBron just had a podcast. In this podcast, he delivered less than 100 percent praise for Jordan. The media and people on social media reacted predictably. Stephen A. Smith did his usual "Blasphemous" line. The thing is, LeBron was not wrong, but anything that's less than absolute praise is cause for Jordan defense.
+James Brown
Yeah, I saw the First Take segment on it. Something about how it's wrong how people give Jordan individually too much credit for the Bulls' championships as a team. Since what LeBron said is just plainly true, they really had to struggle to try to find some way to attack him for it.
+TheRiggedBA
I think it's ironic that Stephen A Smith uses the word "blasphemous" when someone "slanders" the holy being that is Michael Jordan, because I believe that's exactly how you described what the media has done to Jordan in your first Jordan video: that he's a god. Blasphemous is almost always used in a religious sense, and his usage of it, intentional or unintentional, suggests that Jordan is some sort of god.
And I looked at my first comment, and boy, was it choppy as hell
James Brown
Oh, you didn't know? Go to the 7 minute and 6 second mark of this video: watch?v=bPn1J07F10E
!! ive been saying it for years now!!
What podcast?
But the 90s was sooooo physical for Jordan😢
Old heads have been lying to us all for decades.. I'm glad this is being widely exposed..
My fav part is sitting back and watching Jordan fans criticize modern siperstar treatment when it's origins we're with Jordan
Finally found this video again! One of my favourite ones on the internet. It blew my mind ten years ago. My husband came home and I told him about his cool discovery I had made, that Michael Jordan was apparently some kind of fraud to prop up this giant empire of products and to bolster the NBA's new popularity, and he just totally shut down. He's an easy-going man but he looked confused and angry and did not want to talk about it or watch this video. I had no idea he cared. hahaha. Definitely proved your point that the hero worships blinds people to the truth.
It can certainly be a shock to the system. I've been around people watching this video in real life and seen some of them literally go through the 5 stages of grief right there on the spot: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance. But, it's understandable. The "idea" of Jordan is so forcefully promoted that the reality can't help but be shocking to people.
@@TheRiggedBA it was easy to accept for me because I was a Jazz fan watching my team get screwed 2 years in a row so Michael Jordan could sell more Nikes
@@ChewyChicken589 Not gonna lie. I used to hate Karl Malone, so I kinda enjoyed watching what I knew was going to happen to him and the Jazz. Especially after one of the reporters asked Karl about some of the questionable things going on in the series and Karl said something like "I'm from Louisiana. We don't have excuses down there.". It was the most Karl Malone thing to say ever. And saying that would be cool in a fair competition, but you're clowning yourself when you say stuff like that about fixed games.
So I just couldn't wait to see the rest, because I wanted to see how much rigging Karl could take before he dropped the sportsmanship cliches and realized something bigger was going on. And, to Karl's credit, he did eventually realize it and said something about it.
@@TheRiggedBA I actually didn't like that about Karl Malone either
@@TheRiggedBA that's also why I love Isaiah Thomas because he was calling out the shenanigans of Game 6 in 98 as they were happening
I don't think they are gonna mention all those phantom fouls on "The Last Dickriding" sorry Dance. The timing of this documentary is quite suspicious. Just on a year where LeBron was on route to win another championship and everyone is locked down at home, perfect so we are all reminded that Jordan is the greatest ever and no one will challenge him.
I don't even like LeBron but it is what it is. Jordan is one of the greatest of all time but the media portrays him as a superhero, why they don't tell it like it is? He needed 2 all time greats, a great coach, a good supporting cast plus obvious referee aid to win all his titles. In the end Basketball is a TEAM sport and teams win championships, hero ball (80s MJ) may win a playoff series but never championships.
I just saw the last 2 episodes this Monday and THAT play in the 1993 playoff against the Knicks is a perfect defensive manouver according to them... the bias is off the charts. Knicks were robbed of a finals appearence in 1993
thank you!
Facts bro!!
The documentary was going to release anyway, in June I suppose.
Well, LeBron had great special treatment and no calls throughout his career as well.
And it's funny, MJ's stats and game was even more off the charts before 1990. He individually was better in every stat in the 80s compared to the 90s.
Only if you ignore all the other factors (Bulls team getting better in 1990 and 91, as admitted by Isiah Thomas himself) this video makes sense.
And possibly in '92. (game 7, second half, the refs blew the whistles like crazy in mj's favor)
I knew overtime everybody was gonna forget all the calls Jordan got...Surprised MJs own production allowed Magic say MJ got all the calls in the Olympics.
So this could mean referees held other players back at times, and maybe even damaged a few careers in fear of surpassing MJ.
I wouldn't even say "maybe".
I believe it.
@MooGie 3treyCracka
Facts
TheRiggedBA what an amazing video. As a kid, i'm 29 now i loved MJ and Scottie not knowing how Rigged the NBA was. Once i began to grow older and wiser i began to see the NBA for what it was and still is today GARBAGE. People just dnt want to know they are being deceived. All sports IMO is manufactured and scripted like a Hollywood movie. Keep up the great work.
Finally a video that shows what I been sayin for years
I've been saying this since '92. #fuckjordan
MJ was great but Stern & referees made him a living legend.
@@latinreuben exactly
@OIP ! that’s true though, even Larry Bird & Magic Johnson was NOT getting as much special treatment as Jordan did in the 90s, that’s why 80s NBA were the Golden Years, because it was very physical and FAIRLY OFFICIATED!!!
Second 3 peat jordan ( 96 - 98 ) at ages 33 , 34 and 35 is interesting and those 3 years add a ton of credibility to your claims.... he routinely took plays off on defense , rarely guarded the opposing teams best player AND got more calls then at any point in his career but his numbers and level of play on both sides of the ball were still well below his peak.... I wonder what his numbers would of really been if he wasn't as coddled and protected during those years.... and I watch lebron at 33 and marvel at someone with his age can lead the league in minutes , remain healthy , deal with subpar coaching & ownership , inconsistent play from teammates and be so potent and efficient on both sides of the ball I really question the mental capacity of someone saying jordan is a better player I truly don't see it....
TVG EBT Not really. First off, he didn't play when he was 35 (he was already retired by then).
Nitpicking aside, he did NOT get more calls during the second 3-Peat than any other point in his career. During the 3-Peat era he averaged 8.0 (1996), 7.0 (1997), and 8.8 (1998) FTA. His earlier years saw him average 9.1 (1985), 11.9 (1987), 10.5 (1988), 9.8 (1989), 8.5 (1990), and 8.2 (1991) FTA.
Even in the playoffs, he averaged 13 to 14 FTA in his earlier years while only averaging around 10 during the second 3-Peat.
+Andre Ingram aka DJ Screw RIP
You're confusing number of free throws with number of calls. Sheer number of free throws doesn't tell you how many calls he got. Many if not most fouls are non-shooting. It's not the sheer number of free throws that shows fixed officiating, it's number of calls vs how many times he was actually fouled. If you get fouled ten times and shoot 10 free throws, that would be OK. But if you get fouled once yet the referees call 8 fouls and give you 8 free throws, that's fewer free throws in sheer number but the officiating is crooked. 1998 Jordan was a jump shooter who defenders didn't foul because they didn't have to, yet they got called for fouls anyway to feed Jordan unearned free throws.
TheRiggedBA Hmm, I see. Point taken.
@truthsetsyou4ree remember what magic said to MJ during the dream team photo with him , MJ and bird "you can't get too close to michael or it's a foul" 😂 even other star players knew mike got different treatment
@@andreingramakadjscrewrip7372 As rigged said, if you watch prime Jordan in 1990 and slow Jordan in 1998, it is laughable that Jordan got a similar number of calls (slightly more). 1990 Jordan was constantly at the rim, while 1998 Jordan lived off the fade away.
As a Kid... You cant tell much.. But when your older.. This shit is downright atrocious.. Michael.. Smh..
Phillip Lee your fucking blind Dude..
Listen man.. Jordan is not getting fouled.. At ALL IN THOSE CLIPS. HD OR NOT. GTFOH ALREADY.. WE GET IT.. YOUR A JORDAN FAN...
Who the fuck are you calling Boy? Doc or Starks did not foul him.. Period you ass jacket..He choose the best examples.. Nobody hit his fucking elbow either.. Huh.. Your a Okc fan..that explains it.
You...
SDS Overfiend Starks did foul him. Not at the end of the play when the whistle was blown but at the start of Jordan making his move. Starks had both hands all over his chest keeping him from moving forward. LBJ would of flopped backwards cutting his head for being pushed.
To the people who are claiming that this video series is a reach, Find me a playoff series where a 34 year old star was given the same exact treatment Jordan was given in that 1998 Nets-Bulls series.
The funny part is, as the person who made this video, even *I'm* stunned when I watch old Jordan games and see how blatantly the league cheated for MJ. It was so egregious that you just forget how bad it really was until you're actively watching it again.
Also the crazy part about this is that you couldn't play help defense on Jordan in the low post or it was a automatic foul that's series against Miami was so Jordan rigged this was going to the free line about 20 times a game but the media media knows how to push a narrative about Jordan playing in a tougher era
@@travonteoatis-henderson457 Miami was the victim of a lot of Jordan rigging over the years. In one series they were so obviously cheating for Jordan's Bulls that Tim Hardaway in a post-game interview basically suggested that he no longer cared and that there was no point in Miami even trying to win the games.
He was 35, there was no treatment and the Nets was a 8th seed. I/diot
@@TheRiggedBA you watched no games you delusional troll
This video is years ahead of it’s time.
Thank you
@@TheRiggedBA YW.. we still may be decades away from the full magnitude of this registering with the masses. I expect Gen Z to see this with a clearer lens.
@@kingofthenorth2829 I hope it doesn't take that long. But it has been a very slow-moving process so far. Slow-moving, but steady though.
@@TheRiggedBAstart posting again bro
@@dsavage6618 Working on it.
Those clips against NY are so gross. I feel like I need a shower.
LeBron is WAAAAY greater than Jordan except in scoring, but only because LeBron uderstands that obsessing over individual scoring is stupid and counter-productive. So did Bird and Magic, who were also WAAAAY better than Jordan. Kobe is a worse version of Jordan.
Jordan took 23 shots a game to lebrons 19 a game and Jordan took 8 freethrows a game to lebrons 6 a game and Lebron only averages 3 less points than Jordan per game. I'd take Lebron over Jordan in scoring too. He's more efficient.
Mj = goat
AK740 FACTS
@@ak740_ Because he takes 70% of his shots in the paint you imbecile hahaha. Jordan was actually more efficient that Lebron when he played for the bulls. He just came back to play with the wizards and fcked up his stats.
@@samuelsagarnadiez581 hes still a better 3 point shooter than jorbrick lol. Its easy averaging 37 going against terry teagle and danny ainge
this is a big reason why i dont feed into that goat shit them refs make a big ass difference and saves these hyped up basketball players ALOT its rigged no doubt.
truthsetsyou4ree truth is all these player on the same level lebron kobe jordan they can do any move just different they all humam
@Tray Ross you're delusional
this video is hurting a lot of jordan cult members. I love it.
No one is hurt bronsexual calm down
@@chrisking7914 rent free
@@deffar1858 I know I’m rent free man you don’t need to tell me calm down bronsexual
I hope Angry Old Hoops Fan (a.k.a Angry Old Jordan Jocker) watches this. He will probably whine and complain.
And skap attack that guy makes two vids a week bashing LeBron about absolutely anything just to protect Jordan’s image 😂
@@1DJ_416more like 3 a week
@@1DJ_416skap attack will say he barely makes lebron hate videos, just a complete lack of self awareness tbh
9:59 describes AOHF. He’s stated that “if your favorite player isn’t the best player what does that say about you” and “there’s no point talking about who comes second or third, I’ve appreciated some players but ultimately it doesn’t matter” he doesn’t even care about basketball he’s just a Jordan fanboy 😂
Lol. notice how they would call a few fouls after the ball was not even going in. Delayed call.
Rene Chang yup noticed that too
It must be comforting for him to know that every time he goes up for a shot that he will get free throws if he misses
I lived this fckn disgusting
It really was.
Devin booker torched lebron
Which is why Kobe has greater skills. He had the advantage of watching Jordan and learning his moves, then he added more. It's called evolution.
Jorda was a great player but the NBA rigging games through the referees and making Jordan untouchable was absolutely sickening to watch. The NBA was a joke with Jordan and now it's just a circus carnival. Pro wrestling is as legit.
If all the fouls were called in Jordan's favor, he would've averaged 45 ppg.
No but if he wasn't given all the calls like he was,he would have averaged well under 20.ppg.
gerizzyYMcrew He went to college, was out for a number of years, and didn't start getting phantom calls in his favor until the 1990-1991 season...owned
gerizzyYMcrew malone got down and pounded in the paint
Stoolie33 NBA = Nothing But Actors
The fake goat 😂 2nd 3 peat was orchestrated by the officials . It was all rigged.
NFL has had Tom Brady become their version of MJ pretty much
Which is wild to me. Because, while Jordan's marketing may have been unprecedented, underneath all the hype Jordan was actually amazing for real. He was a legitimately sensational, electrifying player. But Tom Brady was never actually 'that guy". He wasn't anyone you were in awe of. Brady typically wasn't even thought of as the best at his position in the league. But they've used some of the Jordan formula to sort of reverse engineer Brady into the GOAT.
@@TheRiggedBA and the rings argument is even more dumb in football because there's way more variables
@@UncleT4life Totally.
@@TheRiggedBA Yes, because at the beginning of Brady's career it was more about the patriots winning due to sept. 11th and the patriots winning sending the message of patriotism "patriots", now it's about brady being the goat as mandate instead of being an opinion as Brady's last 4 Superbowl runs have been rigged including the one in Tampa...
@Lighthouse in the Storm facts...
holy shit... doc rivers had jordan in his pocket
95% of the time refs would wait until the shot hit off the rim to make the call. I've always said Magic is goat and 100% believe that
+Greg Vetter I have the same ideas. It took about 3 gamesof watching magic to know it. HE doesnt admit it so the NBA will carry him financially to this day. After magic ts kareem Dr j, Wilt, and russell
I agree with you 100%
"But there was nobody greater than Larry Bird. Michael Jordan can do incredible things, including moves I've never seen before. There's nobody like him. But Larry was the only player I ever feared."--Magic Johnson,
Is this yall king??? Cry baby Jordan...nba and WWE same thing...pure entertainment
Everyone back then knew the league was rigged for Jordan, the media just forbids anyone from talking about it so millennials who grew up end up buying what they are told
Shutup troll
@@000-z6r2u shutup troll
It’s funny how folks complain how the league today is soft or too many soft calls are being made. They can thank Jordan for that. Great as these NBA players are today, nobody received treatment like Jordan. Even Wilt Chamberlain told Michael that the NBA changed the rules to let him win.
People today have the idea of "superstar calls". It's hard for them to grasp Jordan calls, which were way beyond what you see any superstar get today. Jordan was the first, and for a long time, the only. So the league protected and assisted him like no other.
@@TheRiggedBA major facts
@@TheRiggedBA Did the league rig the 2021 playoffs ? Giannis is the leader of the no friends/no superteams mentality and the league wants small franchises to believe they can win with their drafted talent. They are also preparing for the next decade of basketball without LeBron James. Your thoughts?
@@Jason09_ There were so many injuries to key players that I assume it changed some of the league's plans. So it's hard to say what the NBA actually intended for 2021. But I do agree they were preparing for a post-LeBron future, injuries or no injuries.
@@TheRiggedBA I think the Bucks winning is the only storyline that made sense moving forward because of Giannis becoming the new face of the nba , I wouldn’t be surprised if the Bucks repeat and beat the Nets and Lakers in the playoffs
We need sum more MJ exposed videos
Fax bro
Yes! I want these old heads to lose their minds.. 😂😂
This was among the reasons I gave up on the NBA back in the 90s. As a Knicks fan, that series was brutal...Knicks had it all going in the right direction and then that travesty of a game happened. During those years, my college friends and I would say that, when the Knicks played Chicago, Rivers, Starks, Mason and Oakley would all be assessed fouls against Jordan before they got off the bus. Phantom fouls helped elevate Jordan's prima donna status, much like Bryant, James and the soft players of the modern game. If you liked good defense, hard contact and a game based on intellect, today's NBA is not for you.
Lebron and Kobe never got the same level of ref protection Jordan benefited from.
In fact, quite often they had the refs against them
As for defense it’s better today than it’s ever been, despite the appearances
facts...
Dud S. LeBron gets least amount of calls from a superstar ever (also Shaq) because of his size. Players can be extra physical with Bron because of his size and he can shrug it off easily.
I agree, David Stern I guess had enough of that style of play from the Detroit Pistons, and also the Knicks, I remember the Celtics/Lakers Rivalry in the mid 80s that Final series was very physical and sometimes dirty, but Magic or Bird NEVER complained to the media or to David Stern like Jordan did, when playing against the Pistons and Knicks.
Jordan should really have 2 or 3 rings only, the number of calls he got is ridiculous, also what's infuriating about Jordan fanboys and the media is that they don't mention how the refs in game 6 98 Finals waived off Howard Eisley's three despite that he got it off before the shotclock expired
1991 is the only year I'm certain Jordan would have gotten a ring without fixing the games for him. Every other year is a question mark in my opinion.
Not only Eisley’s 3 pointer
But also Ron Harper’s 2 pt shot that left his hands after the shot clock buzzer expired
That’s a 5 point swing
But that’s Dick Bavetta for you
@@rafikz77 Karl Malone said Dick Bavetta personally apologized to him for giving the Bulls that game. Although, while Bavetta may have felt bad for doing it, I don't think he should have apologized. I'm sure he was just following orders. David Stern is the one who owes Karl and many others the apology.
@@TheRiggedBALemeat rider you need to chill out everyone in the nba has flopped but Lebron is the king 👑 of flopping cope buddy 😂😂
@@Niko-Frombestbuy Did you get lost? Your comment has nothing to do with anything. It seems like you were so excited to post your bad take that you put it in the wrong thread.
As somebody who thinks MJ is hands down the GOAT, LeBron is overhated and every deatail of his career is scrutinized while we gloss over every year of Jordan's career before he get Scottie Pippen, meanwhile Lebron is criticized for needing any help whatsoever. People say Lebron flops(which he does), but will ignore Jordan's flops and phantom calls. Jordan is the GOAT but Lebron is overhated while Jordan is treated like a god who can do no wrong.
The NBA market superstars and that’s why super star treatment exist. Wilt Chamberlain wrote a book in 1997, talking about how Illegal defense is not real basketball 🏀, instead the NBA should play like college basketball 🏀.
Yeah, and Magic also said he'd beat Jordan 1-on-1 and that a lot of Jordan's success came from referees cheating for him. Magic says a lot of things. The Jordan GOAT business is just some marketing nonsense Magic says when he's on the job. We have no idea what Magic really feels about anyone.
This was all David Stern doing!!!, from 1984 to 1990 Michael Jordan was not getting those special treatment calls like he did in 1991 to 1998 where he and his team won 6 NBA titles. To me the 70s & 80s were the GOLDEN YEARS of the NBA, where it was physical & FAIRLY OFFICIATED!!!, even Doctor J who was kinda like Jordan was NOT getting those special treatment calls from the Refs like MJ did. I really believed when Magic and Bird retired & the Bad Boy Detroit Piston teams was being too rough and dirty against their opponents especially against Michael Jordan and the Bulls winning 2 titles, David Stern needed a SuperStar to carry the NBA to new heights domestically and globally, especially after the drug- infested 70s & mid 80s and fighting that hampered the ratings of the NBA for a long time. So David Stern added new RULES to protect Michael Jordan, starting in 1991- Flagrant foul was added, then a couple years later- no hand checking added, after Jordan came back from retirement in 1996,-Refs started calling automatic fouls everytime Jordan drives through a crowded paint and initiated contact to his opponents. ( Admitted by ex-ref Tim Donaghy, who testified in court by the FBI) all these new rules and special treatment for Michael Jordan that David Stern implemented in the 90s, help Jordan and the Bulls to win 6 titles, but it also gradually made the NBA soft over the years, and maybe the “Malice in the Palace” in 2004, was the nail in the coffin for today’s NBA being soft, but remember it started with David Stern in the beginning of 1991, implementing NEW RULES, & special treatment from the Refs to PROTECT Michael Jordan!!!
Jordan in the late nineties wasn’t that athletic, especially if you’re talking about in terms of today’s game. I’m sorry I watched footage of MJ in the late Nineties and to me it seems like Scottie Pippen was in better shape, he to me had a better Vertical leap than Jordan in the late 90s, he was a better in game dunker than Michael Jordan in the late 90s, Scottie to me was a better on ball defender, he guarded the best player, and Scottie was a far superior 3pt shooter than Jordan, and ran the point better than Jordan, now look at the load Scottie took off of Jordan. So all Jordan really had to do is jack up shots and score because Rodman took care of the rebounds. So Jordan pretty much was like Kevin Durant on the Warriors, but you can make the case offensively Kevin Durant did it better than Jordan against better competition. I was felt that Kobe in 2009-2010 look better than 1998 Michael Jordan, Kobe shot against much tougher defenses, Kobe seem to be in better condition than Jordan in 98, Kobe finish better than Jordan on tougher defenses, Kobe was better at getting a And 1 than Jordan, it seems that Kobe at times got lesser calls than Jordan, especially against the Spurs in 2008 in game 5. Kobe at times even look stronger, Kobe was also a better in game dunker than Jordan. Athletically, Jordan actually still seem more athletic but Kobe seems to be quicker with his moves. Now let’s compare 2017-2018 Lebron to 1998 Jordan, Lebron seem be way more athletic and in way better condition, Lebron finish way better on contact, Lebron obviously appears to be way stronger with a higher b ball IQ. Lebron does a better job of making sure his teams are involved because he knows one man scoring will not defeat a great team, Lebron also get more And 1. Lebron seems to be more faster even though he’s bigger and seems to jump much higher. Lebron also playing fast paced teams in year 15 compared to the slow paced they in Jordan 1998 season, which this slow paced style of late 90s basketball really benefited Jordan. Coaches complain during this time as they also made Illegal defense rule even stricter during this time. They kinda knew this was put in place to benefit Jordan. Now Jordan in 98 in year 12 actually was still a great player but he’s just wasn’t on the level of Kobe year 13 and not better than Lebrons year 15. In 98, Jordan was pretty much on a 90s Warriors team, the teams that Jordan faced in the finals in the 90s was not that deep and many teams in the 90s had bad benches probably because of the Expansions Team’s. Jordan seems to not have taken good care of his body, that was evident in the 98 finals as you seen Jordan sweating heavily in a SLOW pace 90s style game with no Zone Defense. But in The Last Dance Doc you can hear Jordan say he drunk 2 Beers 🍺 on the morning of a the 98 finals game, in my opinion this explains the flu game pizza 🍕&🥃 and Jordan sluggish athletic decline. Jordan is the GOAT 🐐 and their is no denying that, but his Goat years was from 84 to 93. When he came back and got swept by Orlando, the Bulls knew Athletically Jordan wasn’t the same, so he can’t carry them like he did years before even though this was his 9th season. He didn’t take great care of his body like today’s athletes and let’s face their weren’t too many athletes in Jordan era, yeah you had Dominique and Clyde but by this time they weren’t no where near Jordan level, but Scottie was still pretty athletic. So the Bulls front office did something good and they basically built up a team that would take the load off Jordan and only allow him to score mainly, this help him 3pest once again and Scottie was more than MJ Batman during this time, I feel like Scottie really be honest when he says that Kobe and Lebron are better then MJ, but what Scottie fails to forget is the first 3peat through 1990-1993 back when Scottie was a Batman. That version of Jordan was the Goat 🐐 hands down 🤗😤.
@@davelouie131 NBA is faker than the WWE.
The truth finally.
Lebron, Magic, Bird, Wilt,Russell and Kobe are all better then MJ.. he was manufactured.
I don't know about bird ... He had a squad that had fundamentals like the spurs he was clutch and had thos rebounds tho
Bird 6-0 against Jordan in playoffs
No the Celtics are
Well bird was the best player on team. All the Jordan stans say Jordan is 6/6 so which is it??? The bulls or Jordan. I just don't get the reasoning that losing in the first round is better than losing in the finals. Whoever came up with that dumbass idea needs to be never listened to again
+mikey James Kareem Abdul Jabbar
This is why Isiah Thomas calls LeBron the GOAT.
@OIP ! 🤡
@OIP ! Dennis Rodman was a Piston too. He doesn't think LeBron is the GOAT.
Devin booker torched lebron
Almost gotta wonder if the baseball thing was a stunt?
Might get too blatant if the bulls win 4,5,6+ in a row, especially with all the official help, so this allows a little break without tainting MJs rep at all.
Also adds to the mystique of the legend as he walks away after realizing perfection, only to come back and do it all over again right away, solidifying his dominance.
Also gives mikey some much needed rest from the beating he was enduring over his title runs 😋
It was a cover up for his suspension for his gambling that he would of gotten
I remember watching the game where Knicks fans chanted BS.. looking back, it makes so much more sense why they were so upset. If people really loved the game, they’d defend the integrity of it and acknowledge everyone that has earned their place deserves to win, and not just the stars “we” tend to idolize through propaganda and ratings.
Just imagine the frustration of the players he played against (Case in point, an irate Doc Rivers at around the 3:40 mark lol)... And just imagine the simplicity of the job for someone who refereed some of his games. In hindsight, a ref could have possibly sat back, enjoyed a courtside seat with a box of popcorn, and officiated from afar as a fan.
Daunte
It was frustrating just looking at it. I remember Tim Hardaway being so disenchanted by it that he basically implied that he no longer cared if his team lost against the Bulls because the games were so fixed that it wasn't a real contest.
TheRiggedBA I got into a debate with a guy a few days ago about the Mj era to the modern 2000--present era. It's amazing how many people still believe the Mj era was the most competitive, fairly officiated era there ever was and that guys like Kobe & LeBron have it "10 times easier, but have done 10 times less"
Daunte
Well in a weird way that's partly true. Outside of Jordan games, the league was pretty decently officiated back then and much more competitive. Players used to kill themselves trying to win because they actually thought it was real. Now? They just rig the whole playoffs and so many players know it's rigged now that they don't really try as hard anymore. That's why I think 90s NBA was much, much better than today in terms of quality. I mean, you knew they were going to fix it for Jordan every year and that sucked. But non-Jordan games were awesome. You just accepted
Jordan games for the sham that they were and enjoyed the rest.
But yeah, in terms of Jordan specifically, Jordanites are lying to themselves about how hard Jordan supposedly had it. Kobe and LeBron could only wish they got the level of assistance and protection Jordan got. You weren't even allowed to compete against Jordan, much less win against him. If you posed any kind of threat to MJ the referees would eliminate you for him. Jordan's closest match back then was Clyde Drexler, and in a 6 game Finals the referees fouled him out in 2 games and gave him 5 fouls in another. No challenge allowed.
Kobe and LeBron may have their share of help form fixed games, but nothing like Jordan and they also are allowed to be challenged and beaten quite often.
There were teams with less cap space regardless of market size so therefore there were more solid teams or league parity because gm's couldn't fuck up there roster moves
Yup, MJ got the superstar treatment too. Pro Sports are big business and if you think these leagues are 100 percent legit, you're fuckin dreaming.
Handchecking was actually illegal since 1978 but they won’t tell you that😂😂😂
they didnt start cracking down on hand checking untill 2004..............they were not focusing on it since 1978.........
@@camgrabert7963 Gotta call bullshit on that one. They called hand-check fouls on Jordan defenders all the time. They didn't just randomly only start in 2004.
Not really. There’s a video by legend of winning that breaks all that down
@@TheRiggedBA Cmon bronsexual show some intelligence
People complaining about Harden getting calls hahaha. Superstars will get them for sure.
What do u think about South Sudan vs USA dream team 2024?
I haven't watched it. I don't watch the Olympic games in general, though I've been meaning to check it out this year just out of curiosity.
Yea Jordan got red carpet treatment a lot of times the refs blew the whistle Defenders didn’t even have contact with MJ.. yet MJ can swat defenders & push off on offense we all remember the infamous Byron Russell push off
Kent Jackson
Jordan “pushing off” wasn’t an offensive foul. Bryon Russell fell due to momentum, and its not like the officials are going to call that in the final seconds of a close finals/playoff game anyways, as shown by Miller’s much harder shove on Jordan in G4 against Indiana which basically caused Chicago to go into the finals fatigued after a 7 game series (when it would’ve been 5 had the refs called it on Miller)
Bryon Russell
Jordan never played against Bill Russell! #WTF 😂😂
rodprops Byron typo you knew what I meant smh
😂😂
let me explain this, the fact that you are allowed to hit someone hard and not get thrown out of the game is 1 Point, the fact that you are allowed to hand check is a second point, however this video is 100% correct. I saw a call in New York City where starts was three feet from Michael Jordan and they call a reach-in foul and on the replay even the commentators were laughing. LeBron James just got elbowed in the face in the Indiana game and blood started squishing out of his head and he got clobbered. The NBA underneath the basket today is so much more physical, because they're trying to increase players to shoot 3-pointers, and decrease people from going to the hoop. why? Because free throws lower TV ratings, and the corporate Masters want to discourage the players from going to the hoop. it's so obvious that the officials are taking orders from the corporate Masters who are the sponsors of this game. the players are even getting knocked out and they're not even calling could. Blake Griffin got knocked out, no foul? lol
lebron's and griffin's incidents are rare nowadays and way more common before the jordan era
TheRiggedBA, I really think the first indication of the league "punishing" the Knicks for challenging the Jordan machine came in Game 7 of the 1992 series. Ewing in foul trouble, Jordan's defenders Wilkins and Starks in foul trouble, and openly stating the obvious treatment towards Jordan compared to the previous games.
"When we're allowed to play our game, we can take anybody, including the Bulls. They were calling them close and quick. When they're doing that, it's hard to get a feel for him. I think the refs were listening to the image the Bulls had created." -Gerald Wilkins after Game 7
The ironic thing about that game is that it seemed like the Knicks themselves had already let the negative press get in their heads and didn't play their physical defense hardly at all. Yet despite playing relatively mild D, Starks and Wilkins still ended up being given nearly two disqualifications' worth of foul calls against them anyway. The referees weren't allowing any defense against Jordan at all, mild or otherwise. When even Bruce Blitz admits the referees were fixing the game for Jordan to win, you know it's bad.
TheRiggedBA Bruce is from Chicago like me, but I think his cultist fanaticism got the best/worst of him. Even I know that in 92 and 93 the Knicks were screwed over by the officiating to help Jordan. And Jordan's overrated-ness was exposed in 94 when Pippen without Jordan pushed the Knicks to 7 games only to get robbed because of that bogus Hue Hollins call. The Pippen-led Bulls also held the Knicks to a lower scoring average than the previous year with Jordan. And notice New York's defenders were not put in foul trouble much during that series and were allowed to play their defense more.
+jaranarm
The 1993 Bulls/Knicks series is actually what made me first realize the NBA was rigged. I suspected it in 1992, but I was only a kid at the time so it wasn't really conceivable to me that something like that could actually happen. But after watching that 1993 series there was just no denying it. It was obvious. I didn't understand it why it was happening or how it was possible, but I knew I was seeing the referees cheat for whatever reason.
jaranarm 94 prove just how rigged it Was... Bulls was not that Good.. the ws Aided the whole season to keep Chi fans happy.. It was evident.
SDS Overfiend
No I disagree. The 94 Bulls were actually a very good team where 3 of Jordan's teammates became All-Stars that year with him gone. I lived in Chicago at the time. It wasn't even about the Bulls or Chi fans anymore, it was only about keeping Jordan fans happy. It certainly wasn't going to look good for Jordan's sponsors if his team wins a title without him, would it?
2:16
Offensive Foul?!!
Why do you call the foul on River?!
What type of BS is that?!
superstar treatment
The Chicago Bullshit were the best team of all-time.
I think you should touch on how the nba rigged it for bill Russell and Larry and magic, because the nba has been rigged since the beginning, the nba had rule back in the 70s or before where big market teams could draft players that went to a college close to their school. It was called the territorial pick
Bs
Sad but true.
I knew something was amiss when Bitch ass Bob costas defended his last shot against B Russell, and whether that was a clean play or not, that’s still when I figured the league caters to narratives to secure they’re finances and it’s the league that writes the history and not the actual better team and players. I hope this isn’t true for every game and every damn series please I love this game
Karl Malone led the playoffs in free throw attempts
@@NothingElseMattersJM By default, someone in the playoffs has to lead the playoffs in FTA every year. Malone went deeper in the playoffs than most stars that played in the playoffs that year.
@@MistahUnknown I’m not talking about totals…. Per game Malone gets there more than MJ. Chicago MJ got to the line 8.7 times in the regular season and 9.9 times in the playoffs . Utah Malone got there 9 times a game in regular season and 9.6 in playoffs.
When you narrow the season sample size of Malone to the same amount of seasons as Chicago MJ, he’s at 9.3 in the regular season and 9.8 in the playoffs
@@NothingElseMattersJM Someone has to lead the league in FTA per game in both the regular season and the playoffs every year.
@@MistahUnknown Of course but if MJ is the l golden child who the refs loved, why are multiple other players getting more free throws than him ? Lol
Isiah Thomas > Michael Jordan
@OIP ! check your history
@@stickmanbw Stfu
@@chrisking7914 It's true, It's true
@@stickmanbw Not at all princess
@@chrisking7914 First, I am a heterosexual man so I don't know who you calling princess. Second here is some history for you Mr. Jordan lover, after the Bad Boys was disassembled; Jordan went 27-0 against Isaiah and the Pistions. The catch is when Isaiah retired due to injury in 93 he still have a more winning record over MJ and the bulls. Isaiah beat Jordan more than Jordan beat him. Look that up sunshine.
1:33 Listen closely to the name of the guy in the #50 Jersey. Greg Anthony. He is 6 ft 0.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Anthony
Look at his resume. Look at is accolades.
These are the guys defending MJ in the finals a.k.a the highest competitive level of basketball.
When you have the refs on your side and have no-names like Byron Scott, Byron Russell, Danny Ainge, Hershey Hawkins, Jerome Kersey, Dumars, Detl Schrempf, and Shandan Anderson guarding you... you're supposed to win all the finals you go to.
2:30 That's the same shit MJ pulled when he made his last shot as a bull in the finals. smh
["When you have the refs on your side and have no-names...guarding you... you're supposed to win all the finals you go to."]
Pretty much. Jordan was already playing against inferior competition, but the referees wouldn't even allow them a chance to pose any challenge.
I agree with everything except for Dumars, he ain't that bad of a defender
RRSKI Pogiski Dumars was a good defender but he was weaker, shorter and didn’t have a long wingspan when guarding Jordan
@@treypound6402 But he was still one of the best wing defenders in the league, 2nd to Moncreif, I'd say.
John starks is a grocery store employee 😂😂🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
They tried this shit with Lebron also. However I think the league has backed off a little in regards to him individually. Now it is all about collusion and putting together a few elite super teams. In other words the league has become complete trash.
Tried it with bron now they've moved to James Harden dude gets mad calls when people breathes on him
Lift1One i know right? ?!!
@@yourauntsfavoriteplayer That makes absolutely no sense because he doesn't get nearly as promoted/marketed as MJ did and he's somewhat disliked in the media. Smh
Samuel Díez yes its certainly not just MJ, but he might be the greatest example.
Also werent the lakers and celtics also super teams?
@Alfredo Duro *Fails to provide proof*
Hmmm. It seems like Jordanism has been on the rise lately for some reason. I haven't been following much sports news or ESPN in awhile, so I'm wondering what's causing it now.
What makes you say that? Did you spot anything unusual lately?
Nuno Madruga
A sudden upsurge of Jordan fanatics in my e-mail and I'm seeing a lot of Superman-like ideas of Jordan in many of the comments I've been reading around TH-cam the past month or so. I used to see that all the time 2 years ago, but it had died down a lot until recently. Not too long ago, on part 1 of this video I think, I even had a Jordan fan argue about Jordan's so-called "hang time" and that Jordan literally had the power to float in the air. Literally, as in when he jumped up for a circus shot, he could resist gravity and fall to the ground at a slower speed than any other player.
TheRiggedBA it's because of the way TH-cam suggestion work and the time of the year it is. There's a video of Kobe highlights that leads into a series of suggestions for Kobe vs MJ. I'm assuming that's how I ended up here so any time Kobe does well expect a surge of views.
Syberz2
Ahhh. You may be right about that.
gerizzyYMcrew
I know that I normally just ignore you because you're a moron, but have you been a good little Jordanite today and obsessively searched for different ways to diminish Kobe Bryant overtaking Jordan and becoming the most prolific scoring guard in NBA history? Because I've seen some pretty funny efforts to do so by some of the other members of your cult.
I grew up during the MJ era and while I loved it the more I rewatch those games the more I begin to realize a few things: 1) the idea that MJ played against "tough defenses" is more half-truth than anything, 2) the vast majority of the defenders he faced were either midgets or second-rate players, 3) he appeared great on defense because he was matched up against inferior talent most of the time, and 4) he was arguably given more preferential treatment than any player in history.
This also exposed Jordan's offensive abilities, the amount of times he went to the line and scored points on phantom foul calls helped his ppg go up, Jordan is overrated, criminally overrated.
Yeah, it was pretty disgusting. Jordan won whole scoring titles because of it. Like in his last year with the Bulls when Jordan was an old, low efficiency jump shooter who couldn't score like he used to. He beat Shaquille O'Neal in the scoring race by fractions of a point because the referees would just feed Jordan free throws/points which boosted his average. It's hard to convey just how much of Jordan's career was manipulated by the NBA
@@TheRiggedBA Iverson at 6’0 165 lbs got to the free throw line 9.1 times a game in Philly and 9.3 times a game in Denver. Harden got to the free throw line 10.4 a game in Houston. Your narrative about MJ getting a disproportionate amount of fouls calls just isn’t true lol.
@@Khan-nq7lq You're babbling nonsensically. The amount of fouls you draw isn't determined by your athleticism. And, unlike Jordan, Shaq's free throw attempts didn't abnormally spike to an 8-year high after he turned 34 years old because referees called extra, non-existent fouls to help him maintain his scoring as his shooting efficiency decreased with age. It is ridiculous to suggest that the fouls Jordan got called for him like at 7:00-9:00 of this video were because his hands were large.
@@Khan-nq7lq
[" Michael Jordan’s 8 season playoff high in free throws attempts in 97-98 corresponds directly with Scottie Pippen’s 8 year low in field goal attempts."]
Pippen didn't have an 8 year low in field goal attempts. But now you're absurdly suggesting that Jordan's free throw attempts spiked up because a completely different person took less shots(which didn't even happen). Your connections and arguments are getting more nonsensical with each comment, so I think it's time for the "Tyson Fury" screen name to make it's appearance in the thread and wrap it up.
@@jessicalancaster4280 He doesn’t understand basic math lol. He thinks MJ and Shaq shoot the same % at the line lol.
Imagine if the 🐐 had been given such a ride????
Celtics win another 2 maybe 3 titles, and his career lasts a bit longer.
Bird rules.
I've been saying this for years! Facts
Funny to see the comments here of people in denial even when the proof is being force fed directly to them. Anyway thanks for the vids. The people who've always known about the Jordan Myth, all 100 of us, appreciate it!
Thank you. It needed to be done.
Game 5 in 1993 vs. the Knicks is not the best example, because the Knicks had 12 more free throw attempts and a good shot to win at the end. If they hit their FT, or if Smith goes up strong, the refs allow the Knicks to win thst game.
Much more interesting is really game 4. You have to see what Cartwright was allowed to do to Ewing in the post. The announcers slobbered all over Cartwright's supposedly magic or unique ability to drive the much stronger and more athletic Ewing outside the post. What they ignore is that he was allowed to stick his fist in Ewing's ass without a call. Game 1 in 1992, the refs REALLY wanted to give to the Bulls, to the point where Ewing was shoved to the floor with no call. The Knicks won that game by 4, but should have won it by 14.
Life of Brian that’s the art if rigging gamez!
TheGrindcorps here’s some more conspiracy for you, not counting the Pistons, the *weakest* center to MAKE let alone win in the finals when MJ wasn’t playing was Robert Parish. When MJ wasn’t playing in the 90s, not counting Detroit, the only centers that MADE the finals were Shaq, Robinson, Hakeem and Ewing. And strong centers gave the Bulls a really hard time, yet, the Bulls never had to face a HoF center in the finals.
Put Jordan in Smith's place and Jordan gets the foul call 10 times out of 10.
And what makes it even worse is that despite all his reaching and mugging people, Jordan was never allowed to foul out. LeBron, despite playing much less violent defense and committing far fewer fouls has fouled out in the playoffs twice in the last couple years alone. Jordan in his untouchable championship years could never have fouled out of a playoff game, especially in critical moments like LeBron has. It wouldn't even be considered. Jordan was protected in a way LeBron can only dream of.
Such physicality lmao
Try watching a whole series dumb@ss
Why you even got a Bulls hat? Jack@ss
Seriously, even Wilt said it himself.
Superstar treatment. It existed even for your precious god, Michael Jordan.
MJ is an average normal Player, He BARELY even made it too the Nba, after he got there his rookie year he improved, but he was not as Great as everyone made him.He was a good player not a great player, that deserves the title "The Goat". ThIS video and part 2 EXPLAIN it for it self if YOU ACTUALLY watched it all. It was obvious David stern infact did do it.Even media people and people in the nba Admitted to it. Most of his foul calls drawn werent even fouls. His whole era after his first three years was rigged for him. Callin casper fouls and shit, nobody fucking be touching his soft ass and they be calling fouls
right
Unfortunately I wasn't able to watch him play because I wasn't born yet but in my opinion Kareem Abdul Jabar was the greatest player ever. Michael Jordan benefited from the NBA catering to him.
this video vindicates everything I said about mj while I was in college...EVERYTHING. thank you for providing just a small bit of the proof.
Still think MJ is the greatest, but those where a lot of phantom calls with Drexler. If it had been ref'd more fairly, I think the Blazer-Bulls series goes 7 games. This might have been why Isaiah walked off the court after the Bulls beat the Pistons in 91. It was somewhat surprising they 'suddenly' sweep the Pistons. Also, in the Laker series, if you notice, Worthy and Scott both missed game 5 with injuries. Looking back, I, thought that was a league directive to make sure MJ got that title.
I don't know how you can watch this video and all of his other videos and still come up with "Still think MJ is the greatest".
Michael Jordan + David Stern =
6 championships
Lebron James + Adam Silver =
? championships
The circumstances are diffierent...
they were about 20 stupid fouls in his favor but he built his legacy on his own
Facts facts and facts
Should be s rubbed from the record books, it's tough watching these plays again because this was the normal. You could do a 2 hour video of just Jordan uncalled travels
Sure but rigging probably had been and will be going on to different extents.
Hard to trust any of it as completely genuine competition of the most deserving without any agendas involved
I don't know. Whatever government experiment that was performed on Griffin that makes him jump like that, they classified the information.
Man Rigged your spot on thanks for shedding light on the Travesty of the NBA ...God Bless you and the work you have done...
Thanks!
About fucking time! I've been saying all of this for years. Thanks for the video. .
+FitnFamous
You're welcome. It needed saying.
Charles Oakley say's "I don't know about getting it to seven games, but they knew who they were marketing for the business," Oakley said. "You look back and look at the teams and think who can make the money for the league. Who made the league shine in their careers, Michael Jordan or Patrick Ewing? No question it was Michael Jordan. He's the best player to ever play, but he got more calls. I know I was in a couple situations where I didn't foul at all and they called fouls." keyword G.O.A.T
Come on ! I knew this in 92 get the opposing team in the penalty then they have to play a perfect game
And people complain about James Harden living on the line and getting ridiculous whistles.... Think it’s crap and ridiculous. Man that’s nothing compared to crap like this!!
As much as I scratch my head over some of the calls Harden gets, Jordan fans ought to be ashamed of themselves for daring to complain about it. Jordan defenders got whistled for fouls just for being in the gym at the same time Jordan was.
@@TheRiggedBA You didn't mention the most obvious case for rigging. In '95, Jordan's Bulls lose due to a lack of interior defense and rebounding. Stern couldn't let that continue, so mysteriously, the Spurs complete the most irrational trade in league history, gifting the premier interior defender and rebounder in the league to the Bulls for a 3rd string center. The Bulls became the perennial favorite for three years. 95 is blamed on "rust", and the official story of the Rodman trade is that Rodman's antics were too much for the Spurs, thought his respect for MJ kept him under control. (Never mind that Rodman kept up the same behavior as a Bull and, having thrashed MJ in the postseason, probably respected him less than anyone left in the game.)
But it gets better. A year after the Spurs immense show of MJ generosity, the league and Stern sit idly by while the Spurs refuse to play the Admiral (even after he got healthy) and blatantly threw the season to win the Tim Duncan sweepstakes. Who gets to be the first team to win after Jordan's second dynasty? The San Antonio Spurs of course.
Life of Brian even the refs can only do so much without people turning off the TV and doing something else. That’s why they don’t give harden 40 free throw shots in the playoffs. Everyone knows he’s a flopper and good actor. If he got the FULL jordan treatment and won the finals over Golden State and the cavs everyone would know the NBA is rigged. That’s why they spread the calls around.
TheRiggedBA LMAOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Life of Brian thats a very interesting comment
Jordan had been the best NBA player for the most part of his career, that's a fact, so some people should stop hating like little kids.
It's also a well known fact though that referees helped him and his team become virtually unbeatable. I remember Magic Johnson during a photo session with Jordan and Larry Bird at the 1992 Olympic Games saying 'don't get to close to him or they'll call it a foul'. Funny and true.
Damn the fanboy blinders can't see the obvious here... Delusional to put it mildly... Sigh...
Drink Me Nope. Magic the better ball player. Congrats on MJs Bulls beating a hobbled and aging Laker team.
Drink Me You’re delusional. Don’t be mad cuz Jordan’s easy path is being viewed on this video. You aren’t even old enough to watch Jordan. Worthy was hobbled that entire series and was in the WCF. Scott even missed games. The Lakers didn’t even have Kareem, Cooper, Riley. There was NOBODY there to check Jordan. Weak ass defenders. Terry Teagle? Lmao you probably don’t even know who that is lol. Jordan was a great player but he’s not the best. Magic and Bird are better. So is Kareem
Drink Me Sure he helped, but he got finals MVP as a ROOKIE when Kareem was INJURED and played CENTER. Magic was versatile as hell
Today as everyone analyzes the game and it’s players, we often hear about how important efficiency is, not just volume. It’s why Westbrook, I think fairly, isn’t considered to be as great as simply his counting numbers would make you think. Thinks like effective field goal percentage are used to get a more accurate depiction of how effective of a scorer a player is. While we still look at simple FG percent, it really isn’t used as much when discussing how great a player is. It is DEFINITELY still discussed, but for example think of James Harden. We have all now been educated on how efficient of a player Harden truly is. If we only look at his shooting percentages such as FG AND 3FG, we see that he’s typically only a 44 percent FG shooter and 36 percent 3 point shooter. While these aren’t atrocious, they clearly aren’t, on their own, noteworthy. Luckily, we have more advanced analytical metrics to discover the true effectiveness of a player like harden. We can look at his eFG percent and true shooting percent to see just how much scoring value a player like Harden gives you with his shot attempts. The same with Steph Curry. While it’s clear that his FG and 3FG percentages themselves are outstanding, when you look at his advanced shooting numbers you get an even better context of how all time amazing he is as a scorer. As many of the best basketball minds will tell you: increased volume COUPLED with increased efficiency? That is true greatness. Volume and low efficiency? Not too special. Low volume and high efficiency? Solid, but not game changing by itself.
Why then, do all of these analysts refuse to use this same thinking when we discuss Michal Jordan? Or when he is compared to LeBron James? Why isn’t Westbrook compared to Jordan more? No no, not because of the feigned “intensity” Russell “always” plays with( on one end...) but because of the way that their usage rate and number of shots attempts has a greater impact on their counting numbers than efficiency does. Of course Jordan was a better 2 point shooter than Westbrook, but it is fair to compare the two to some degree, especially if we look at Westbrook’s best seasons.
Today’s league average eFG: .529
Jordans career eFG: .509
LeBron career eFG: .541
Jordan eFG in age 35 season, 97/98: .473
Yes, again, Michael Jordan in his final year with the bulls, when he was still head and shoulders above the field, had an effective FG percentage of 47 percent.
Lebron has a better career FG percent, 3 point FG percent, 2 point FG percent, eFG percent, AND, despite being a worse FT shooter than Jordan, despite Jordan getting to the line whenever anyone was close to him, LeBron STILL has a better true shooting percentage than Jordan as well( if you understand what eFG and true shooting is, you understand why included the info about FTs when discussing true shooting between the two)
With all of these facts being accurate, go check for yourself if you would like to, why is it always treated as a foregone conclusion that Jordan was the “better” scorer than LeBron? Everyone who is following basketball today KNOWS for a fact that we do not consider the players who score the MOST as automatically being the BEST scorers. If you deny that, you are lying to yourself. Are the players who average the most points sometimes considered the “best” scorer in the league? Yes! But it’s not automatically synonymous. With all of this considered, I think it’s fair and objective and conclude that LeBron James is a BETTER, more effective/efficient high level scorer than Michael Jordan. While many can come up with generalized and subjective arguments, using statements that don’t actually have a factual basis, as to why Jordan is the “better” scorer, I honestly can’t come up with any myself. Neither of the two are my personal favorite players, John Wall, Baron Davis, Young Dwyane Wade, De’aaron Fox, Celtics Rajon Rondo, Rockets Steve Francis, Allen Iverson, #8 Kobe Bryant, and many others have been some of my personal favorites, and a lot of what I pointed out about scoring can be held against many of these players. My personal opinions does not play a factor in why I can’t help but conclude that LEBron is the better scorer. I’m not sure what I’m missing. I like using facts, numbers, game logs, box scores, etc, to form my opinions. That way it doesn’t feel like MY opinion, rather it is simply the TRUTH. Or at least that is my goal. I can’t help but feel that soooooooo many individual’s opinions on who they think is better, etc, is entirely based on THEM, and how a player relates to THEM. Perhaps they have some great memories to when THEY first saw said player, and when THEY decided said player was the best ever because THEY had never seen someone make the play they just saw said player make on NBA on NBC on Sunday afternoon. That’s all and well! Those memories should be cherished!!! But I don’t believe that that type of opinion is worth entertaining seriously
The only thing that I would look into for your stats is what the average league eFG was when Jordan was playing. That would be a more accurate depiction of his shooting as it takes into account how the game was played in that era.
@@vinnym6206 totally Vinny! You are right! And while I didn’t avergae of all of the eFgs from jordans career, he WAS higher than league avergae. He was not, over the course of his career, as much higher year by year than LeBron was, but you do bring up a pair point.
However, consider this: while of course there are SO many differences from era to era, what is the ONE thing that is the only legit constant variable in comparing the two players? It is: they both played the same game, that being basketball. They both played on the same size court with the same size rims etc. You see, I did give Jordan a break with his eFG because remember, if not for when the league moved the line in, he would have continued to be a terrible 3 point shooter. As you know, 3 point shooting can greatly impact eFG. just so you know, though, the reason why lebrons eFG is so good is not just cuZ he has become a solid/above average/average 3 point shooter, but it is because his 2 point FG shooting is just THAT good. Most players, if they have a great eFG it is becusdr they were great 3 shooters. 33 percent from 3 is the same as 50 percent from 2...so it’s much easier/common for a player to become a 33 plus percent 3 point shooter than. Is to become a 50 plus percent shooter on all 2s...but while bron did get above 33 from 3, he was welllll above 50 from 2 and that is what is so impressive and really truly helps his eFG. Also, I know everyone talks about how if Jordan played today when everyone shoots so many 3s he would automatically be good at shooting 3s, right? Well...yes over the last 5/7 years 3 point shooting has gone wild...but prior to that it wasn’t that much different in the 2000s than it was for a good chunk of Jordan’s era...and no matter what team 3 point numenrs were, we CANNOT just forget or pretend there weren’t still a good number of players who could really knock down the 3 when Jordan played! So it wasn’t like no one realized how great it was if a player could hit 3s! Reggie and Dennis and glen rice and others etc etc! Guys shooting over 5 3s a game and it leading to a lot of personal and team success! Soooo if Jordan simply could automatically just become a great 3 point shooter today...why didn’t he back then?? He saw how effective the shot was for players...but he still sucked at it, you know? All I’m saying is that IF Jordan could so easily become a good 3 point shooter...why didn’t he? You know? Yes today everyone shoots so many 3s, but if Jordan was so great and so smart he should have been able to become a better 3 point shooter if he could have. Idk that’s how I see it. He didn’t play in the 60s!! And look at it this way: when the line was MOVED IN, and made EASIER for Jordan, then he started shooting a lot more and utilizing the shot!! So clearly he knew it was a good shot! BUT the truth is he just wasn’t a good shooter from the distance it was at before it was moved in and where it is at today. Right? Am I missing something? YES I understand that you can say that if he played today he would have worked even harder on his 3 point shot because you “have” to be able to shoot the 3 today..but if that is the case, why do we still see players today who are never able to become good 3 point shooters, you know? Even players who have good mid range! Some of the players with GREAT mid games just aren’t able to become great 3 point shooters. I mean apmost all of kobes career was after Jordan and his career 32 from 3 will tell you that clearly all great mid range shooters can’t alwyas become great from 3! Kobe wanted to! He had years taking a crap ton! But he never became a great 3 point shooter. Idk man. I’m not trying to be biased at all. I care way more about getting to the truth than I do about being right. I’ll admit I really do have an issue with MJ being such a bad person and so many people defending him. I honestly don’t care who the best player is, I just cNt stand people projecting him to be perfect becusdr of what he means to them and because he likely validates them and their actions. Think, and sorry if you don’t care for psychology and sociology, but, if you are a man who was once at a crossroads in life growing up, and you didn’t know if it was more important to have morals and integrity and be a good person, OR if winning and proving you were better than every other man was what you should strive for, and you come across Jordan, and it’s revealed that he’s a shit person BUT you see that he is glorified none the less because he WOn, don’t you think that might make you personally dependent on Mj being seen in a certain light??
Some people despise when anyone brings psychology into sports debates. Even if I were to tell them that I am actually qualified to delve into that topic, they don’t care. So many men are afraid to dig deep into the psyche, but I’ll tell you what, it legit blew my mind when I first decided to stop living with repression and insecurity and just try to find the truth and let it all out...it blew my mind honestly..how many things, even who people love as sports icons, can be explained in a psychological manner
@@schuylersavage276 totally valid. I always hated how the NBA made things easier for MJ and totally catered to him. As I said elsewhere on here I always got crap in the 90’s when I said the game was rigged as MJ got all the superstar calls. I felt like they did that with Kobe too, but to a lesser extent (and I’m keeping in mind their series with the Kings). I’m not old enough to know how the 70’s and 80’s were, but I doubt it was like the 90’s in terms of straight up favoritism. They still do it with Lebron, but he’s such a physical freak and he recruits other superstars that he honestly doesn’t even need their help. I think that MJ probably would have won a championship or two without the refs help, but not six. He’s a legit hall of famer, but not “the best of all time.” I don’t really like the title being applied to anyone, because as stated before the game changes so frequently and people build on things from previous generations, and it’s in some ways disrespectful to the greats that played early on that played in new ways that allowed others after them to flourish.
@@schuylersavage276 as for the psychological part, I think it’s more of a moral value system that you’re getting at. This is clearly off topic from basketball, but I think that it’s possible to see appreciate positive aspects from people who may be troubled. But in terms of guidance that’s why I think having a solid moral foundation, most likely from religion, is so important. Me personally if I didn’t have my faith, if I were an atheist I cannot logically escape nihilism. I’ve tried as a thought experiment. And nihilism allows people to be narcissistic, evil, and dangerous. I think most of today’s atrocities can be explained by people’s lack of morals/faith.
@@vinnym6206 yes I read that comment you mentioned! I loved it. And yeah man, thanks for your comment here. Totally. While I am not old enough to have seen those eras either or even most of the 90s, I am legit like OCD and sports is soemtbint I can really sink my teeth into and now that we have TH-cam I have been able to literally go back and watch actual games and that is when I was able to figure out that what people were saying about Jordan just is not true. It always felt fishy to me as it is, I was honestly led on this journey of discovery by the bad feeling I got when watching Jordan footage of him speaking. It just seemed like a bad man. So I wanted to know if that had nothing to do with how great he was, or if the reason I was feeling this terrible energy from him had something to do with the inauthenticity of his career narrative, and as it turns out, YES, a lot of the narrative is total bull crap and entirely manufactured and fabricated to some degree! While I do go into things with a proposed hypothesis in my mind, my goal is ALWAYS to get the truth, not to prove myself right. I’ve come to enjoy being proven wrong because that just means that I have learned something! You know? But yea, all of your points are totally valid from what I have been able to gather through extensive research. It’s simply silly to me when people will say “you didn’t grow up watching him so you don’t know” as if simply seeing a game live on TV rather than the exact same game years later recorded somehow makes your opinions more valid? You know? I actually think it can often be the opposite. If you were someone who fell in love with the game becusdr of what you saw from Jordan live, especially before your Brain was matured, so basically you weren’t even aware of things such as his opponents freaking out at the refs for basically handing MJ an extra 10 points or handing him the game with a pathetic call, you know, kids just ain’t looking for those things and they also aren’t reading the articles that are critiquing him. So I honestly think that leads to sooo much bias. These people have such a personal emotional attachment to their growing up with MJ so they aren’t able to look at it objectively. And then obviously as these videos point out, we just have too much data and testimony to confirm all of the things that benefitted Jordan we just can’t deny it! I truly believe anyone who isn’t biased will feel the way you do if they are honest: Jordan without the leagues help and basically cheating by the refs STILL would have been a HOFer. Still would have been a great scorer. And I think it’s possible that since he still would have had Phil and Scottie and those elite TEAMS around him, he still would have won at least 1 or 2 rings. Exactly what you said. But he is NOT even close to the clear goat. I’m sorry but with all of the things David stern did to impact his career, like, NO. That is just simply not goat worthy. I also agree with what you said, I don’t like to label anyone the best ever. I will say when soemone ISNT, but that is also because it’s not really possible to find PROOF like factual PROoF that says someone is the best. For all the reasons you said, the league changes so much in so many differnet ways, some things get harder to do some get easier some get harder and easier in different ways ahhhh! It’s just too much! Especially for people like us who are just trying to be objective, we know that in a scientist/fact proving type way, there is no all time goat. And comparing across eras it’s just like NO. Just as you said. And I totally get what you mean as it being a disrespect as well.
It’s ironic in a way. I am such a big proponent of just appreciating all of these human beings for their amazing careers. Not being haters all the time. BUT, that being said, I do end up coming off like a hater with Jordan. It’s just becusdr with him I feel like it’s the exact opposite of how it is with basically everyone else. Everyone else gets like zero respect relative to what they actually deserve, while Jordan gets like extra exponential respect and credit relative to what he deserves. I just want fairness and us as fans to try and be as objective as we can when discussing players careers. Now of course in terms of who we LiKE? Who OUR favorites are? That is great and totally subjective!! Heck ya! It should be! But who WE like the most has nothing to automatically do with where they rank all time ? You know?
Jordan shot exactly one more FG attempt in 1998 than he did in 1997.
I believe the NBA changing rules was more based off of the "Bad Boy Pistons " they had to put an end to intentionally aiming to hurt other players. MJ was the main target of the attacks so he got extra attention.
Lmao yea sure buddy
Facts... I think nba is very rigged... BUT JORDAN WASNT THE ONLY ONE COMPLAINING... other teams and GMS were to... and all of them bring up the pistons as an example... so it wasn’t jst jordan... infact most teams didn’t even like the pistons bcuz of how they played they were actually disliked ... so it was not jst mj other gms and players to
Bird got is just as bad or worse than MJ
@@make-outseries831 Wilt Chamberlain wrote a book in 1997 complaining that Illegal defense is not real basketball 🏀, instead the NBA should play like college basketball.
@@make-outseries831 shutup